Homeless to Six-Figure Success + Resiliency with Joe Buckner (part 1)

What if you could transform your life from homelessness to six-figure success? This episode features Joe Buckner, a remarkable individual who defied the odds to become a respected community leader and entrepreneur. He opens up about his journey from being a high school sports star grappling with poverty to making risky decisions that landed him in prison. Yet, through resilience and a pivotal moment of self-accountability, Joe found his path to redemption and success.

Joe's story is nothing short of inspiring. Despite his athletic prowess, he faced financial hardship and turned to the drug trade, driven by the lack of accessible financial knowledge in the late 90s and early 2000s. From working a stable job to diving into illegal activities, Joe reflects on the lessons learned and the skills he never knew he had. His natural aptitude for business and management became evident, even in the most unexpected of circumstances. Joe recounts his transformative prison experience, where an old-timer’s words prompted a life-altering choice that set him on a new trajectory.

Join us as we wrap up with the powerful theme of accountability and resilience. Joe's transition from homelessness to becoming a successful business owner at Beautifully Savage Boxing Gym is a testament to the power of unwavering determination. This episode is filled with valuable insights and lessons on the impact of transformative choices. Tune in and let Joe Buckner's story ignite your own resilience journey. Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and share this episode of Reignite Resilience with those who seek inspiration to overcome their challenges.

Transcript

Pamela Cass: 0:06

In the grand theater of life. We all seek a comeback, a resurgence, a rekindling of our inner fire. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience. This is not just another podcast. This is a journey, a venture into the heart of human spirit, the power of resilience and the art of reigniting our passions.

Natalie Davis: 0:29

Welcome back to another episode of Reignite Resilience. I am your co-host, Natalie Davis. I am so excited to be back with you all. Pam, how are y'all? It's?

Pamela Cass: 0:39

Friday. I'm fabulous, Just another Friday afternoon recording a podcast Listen.

Natalie Davis: 0:48

I think we should get our. That should be the first round of shirts that we get for Reignite Resilience is on the back. It's Friday.

Pamela Cass: 0:55

And what are you?

Natalie Davis: 0:55

doing Recording another episode.

Pamela Cass: 0:58

That's what we do. That's how we end our week on a high note.

Natalie Davis: 1:01

Absolutely, absolutely Well. I am just hoping that my voice survives this episode. I've been teaching this week and it's been a short week, so I feel like I have been all over the place and talking significantly more than I typically do and that says a lot, but we have a fabulous show. I think I'm a little partial. I think we have a fabulous show in store for our listeners today. We have a great guest and I'd love to dive in because I would really love our listeners to hear his story, because there are so many ahas, nuggets and, I think, takeaways for our listeners when we're talking about overcoming adversity. This individual has absolutely done that and has tools that he's utilizing to empower other people to overcome adversity.

Natalie Davis: 1:43

So, without further ado, we have a very special guest on our show today, mr Joe Buckner, who is also here in Colorado, with us in Fort Collins, and Joe is actually a speaker and author. He is the founder of Beautifully Savage, the boxing gym that's located in Fort Collins, that now has a second location in Fort Collins, and he has an impeccable story because Joe himself his story goes through him experiencing homelessness, being an ex-felon and to making his way to being a six-figure business owner and leader within the community and, as I mentioned, he is spending quite a bit of time now empowering the people in his life to be their best, so I am really excited to have this opportunity to visit with you. Welcome, joe.

Joe Buckner: 2:32

Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Thanks for the great intro.

Natalie Davis: 2:35

Yeah, oh, you bet Absolutely.

Natalie Davis: 2:37

There's one key piece that I probably left out, that I need to include is I recently met Joe, I think just about a year ago now, definitely coming upon a year here in September, because you are really good friends with my partner and you guys have grown up together and known each other for quite some time, and so we had the opportunity to connect. And then I had the opportunity to hear a part of your story. And then I cyber stalked you and we were at a function and we were having a conversation and Joe, just in passing, he said, yeah, it could be cool to start a podcast. And my head whipped around in that moment I didn't say anything and I was like, oh well, then we have something for you, come on over.

Pamela Cass: 3:16

Perfect, exactly.

Natalie Davis: 3:18

Exactly, I'm constantly listening for those things. If you mentioned real estate or podcasts, I'm your girl, I'm the one.

Joe Buckner: 3:27

We're on it. Great, I love it. Yeah, it's been something that's been in the works for a long time. Bandwidth right. How do you even find the bandwidth?

Natalie Davis: 3:36

Well, I'll tell you, one special day for us is Friday afternoons.

Pamela Cass: 3:40

I'll tell you that we fit it in where we can fit it in.

Natalie Davis: 3:43

Where we can fit it in Absolutely.

Joe Buckner: 3:45

Like your Friday afternoon club.

Natalie Davis: 3:47

Exactly, that's it.

Pamela Cass: 3:49

Yeah, we're not wasting it.

Natalie Davis: 3:50

Other people may be having cocktails on a patio somewhere. We're hoping to share some content and messages with our listeners. But, joe, I'd love for you to kind of take us back to I think it's your late teens is where you kind of dabbled in some space that you didn't necessarily think you were going to find yourself in, and then finding yourself in the position of being homeless. Kind of walk us through your story years ago.

Joe Buckner: 4:18

I mean, it'd probably be a lot more, a lot less embarrassing story if it was in my teens. I was actually a full on adult when.

Pamela Cass: 4:24

I was a teenager.

Joe Buckner: 4:25

It was in my teens. I was actually a full-on adult. When I was a teenager, I was like Captain America. I led it in five varsity sports in high school. My girlfriend was the home queen. I was like an all-American kid, just really, really poor. And so you know, when you're a great athlete, that's the equalizer of being poor, because people like you and want to be around you. But at the end of the day you go home and you don't have dinner and you know lights all in the house, and so my story is more one of just a person who I never want to be a bad person. I didn't want to be poor. I was tired of being a poor person. I was tired of not having. I was tired of coming home and the water doesn't work and the phone is out and like. I just didn't want to be poor anymore. So, truth be told, all the way I played football in college.

Joe Buckner: 5:06

So I mean I was like Captain America for a good portion of my young life and when I came out, I worked for this company called American Furniture Warehouse. That was cool, a little five thousand dollars a month, selling couches and mattresses for jay jabs, and I just kept feeling like there's so much more out there and I would see it whether it was the Barons. Or, like the Ikey Farmers, like all these people I feel like and they like travel and they own houses and they own multiples of things. Like, why can't I figure this out? Because nobody's just telling you, hey, here's how you do it. Now we have the internet so you can get on TikTok and learn how to invest and do this. But in the late 90s, in the early 2000s, nobody was just handing that information out, and so it seemed like you either had to be born into it or some money had to really like you and put you into it.

Joe Buckner: 5:56

But for me I didn't have the vehicle, and so selling couches and mattresses was cool. Working every holiday wasn't cool, and I didn't even spend that time with my kids on Christmas Eve until 8 o'clock at night. Stuff like that started to knock me, and then an opportunity presented itself at work. And what? Now that I'm 49, I'm like gosh, this is one of the most crazy things anyone ever said to me. But a gentleman at my work says we're the only young guys there. Mind you, everybody. I was 25, he was 26, 27. Everybody else was crazy because, like I'm probably their age now, but at the time they were old. Yes, it's amazing.

Natalie Davis: 6:32

Like in our 20s, someone that was 49, we're like, oh no, they are old, they are so old, they're old people.

Pamela Cass: 6:36

And now here we are, yeah.

Joe Buckner: 6:39

Here we are, this guy, his name was Dan. He says hey, joe, you're black, you know where I can get some drugs. And I was just like at the time I was the most L7 square dude on the planet. I maybe drank twice a year and so I didn't, I had no clue and he just wanted ecstasy. I don't want to say just, I don't want to minimize it, but you know, if he wanted to drink, I knew one kid that smoked marijuana and I was like I can call this kid. I mean, to me drugs are drugs, right, right, good. Well, I don't know if it's good fortune or bad fortune, but the kid had ecstasy, so drove over, handed in the money. You know, long-stay shirt, I made like $100 on my lunch break, 30 minutes. I didn't go to Harvard but, man, I could flip off some simple math pretty quick. I didn't go to Harvard but, man, I could flip off some simple math pretty quick and I was like $100, 30 minutes. I usually make like $1,500, $1,400, $1,300 a week and I worked Saturday and Sunday.

Joe Buckner: 7:36

I was like, hmm, maybe there's something to this, but I just let it go, because I was like it's a one-time thing, got my little $100, whatever and buy some shoes. And then he asked again whatever and buy some shoes. And then he asked again and I was like, oh, it's cool, but it's 100 bucks.

Pamela Cass: 7:47

You're not quitting your job over 100 bucks, yeah.

Joe Buckner: 7:48

then he had a friend who was like well, I need 100. I was like, okay, so if I take this money and I give the guy the money, I can use the rest of the money to get my own 100. And I'd already done some research, because I'm just that kind of person like once I get my eyes on something, I start studying. I've learned okay, people pay $25 to $30 a piece for these. If I buy 100, the guy will give one to me for $7. If I can buy it for $7, let's say I sell them for $25, I can make $18 on every one of the 100. That's more money than I'm making work. And I can do that on a Saturday night.

Joe Buckner: 8:25

It took me that long to quit my job. I didn't even clean out my locker. Like it's people that work there at American Furniture Warehouse, like some people that used to work there when we still worked there, and they laugh about it every time I go in there. They're like remember you this day? I will fight you. Columbus Day is not a holiday. I don't know why you asked me to work.

Joe Buckner: 8:48

But so I started making that kind of money regularly. I'd just go buy another hundred, go buy another hundred. So now my job became going out to nightclubs and serving up these little things in the outlawing team, and then that progressed into you know, became a cocaine dealer. Then we got into other things and we really grew like a big business. And so in hindsight, looking back, I was like, oh, I always had a mind for business and scaling things and managing people. I just didn't have the right vehicle. So I took the one that was available to me so that I didn't have to not be able to build it. So that culminated into getting arrested in January 3rd 2003. And then I got sent to the Department of Corrections in September of 2005. My court case took about two and a half years. Wow, wow.

Natalie Davis: 9:36

And in that two and a half year time frame were you constantly in and out of the courtroom Like is this what we're walking through? You kind?

Joe Buckner: 9:44

of go to court once a month. You know you go to court once a month and there's any updates, changes, things like that. The thing that was kind of fascinating I actually got in trouble originally because I got pulled over. I had 11 pounds of marijuana in my car that was destined for someone else and then I got put on probation. So it was like God was looking out for me.

Joe Buckner: 10:07

But from getting put on probation immediately, the district attorney filed a bunch of charges that were almost three years old, that they were just sitting on. They were just holding them, and so that's what ultimately got me sent to prison was the change that I'd done in 2000 and October of 2002. So that's what ended up ultimately getting me sent to the Department the change that I'd done in 2000 and October of 2002. So that's what ends up ultimately getting me sent to the Department of Corrections. But in that amount of time I got a good job. I stopped doing all the bad things. My hope was, well, if I get myself together, they're not going to send me away. But at the end of the day I got sent to the Department of Corrections.

Pamela Cass: 10:42

Wow, and how long were you sent? You were sent away. How long were you serving?

Joe Buckner: 10:48

I was gone for 10 months 10 months I was gone for 10 months.

Joe Buckner: 10:51

First I went to Park County, which is where the South Park Park team is based out of. They call that. They refer to that place as Gladiator School. Reason is because the inmates run the place. Literally, the guard brings you to your door, points you to your room, shuts the door behind you, so everyone in there is a Department of Corrections, sentence inmate. They just don't have a bed for them yet or a facility for them yet, so they kind of watch you there.

Joe Buckner: 11:16

I was in a maximum security prison in Denver called DRDC and then by the grace of God, because my lawyer was able to go you know, actually not this person, right I got a recommendation for a boot camp program, so it was called the Colorado Corrections Alternative Program. It doesn't exist anymore, but it was a boot camp program that was designed after the Army's boot camp and it was run by some current and ex-Army and Marine personnel and that program was there for 100 days and it changed my life. Like it's the best thing that ever happened to me in my life and I know that sounds weird because I was locked up, but the best thing that ever happened to me.

Natalie Davis: 11:55

Wow, where were you in terms of your mental space prior to going to the boot camp? You talk about that being life-changing Mentally, where were you? And, I guess, in terms of strength, how were you navigating through all of that?

Joe Buckner: 12:09

Unfortunately, I've been in jail a lot. I had just never been in prison to this point. Are you asking if I was scared?

Natalie Davis: 12:16

Yes, any emotion that you were feeling or, yes, even layers of where you might have.

Joe Buckner: 12:22

No, I wasn't scared. I mean, I've been boxing since I was six, Like I know how to take care of myself, so I wasn't scared. I mean, I've been boxing since I was six, Like I know how to take care of myself, so I wasn't scared. In that regard, I was sad because I already had kids. By this point, Like I was a father, so I was heartbroken that I had, you know, gotten me taken away from them. But I also was. I was like well, I guess this is the path I chose, so this is what I have to look forward to. One I chose, so this is what I have to look forward to.

Joe Buckner: 12:48

One thing about me that I think has always helped me I'm always 100% willing to accept all of the good and bad that could come from a decision. So I am highly lactose intolerant. Every so often my wife will say I would really like the live stream. I'll say cool, Joe, your stomach's going to probably hurt tomorrow, but are you willing to accept that? So when I was in that life, I used to tell my older kids mom, I said, one day I'm going to walk out the door and I'm not going to come back, and that's the day this is all over, Like it's done, and so I kind of knew that's where I was going. So in terms of mindset, I will be really honest.

Joe Buckner: 13:26

When I first got there to Park County I was like, okay, where did I go wrong? Who did I trust that I shouldn't have trusted? How can I be better at the thing? Because I don't know about y'all man, but I grew up my family was always 30 cents away from a quarter. You know what I mean. It was always too much month at the end of the money. Checks came on 15th, 30th, the money was gone by the 13th and the 27th. So like that's, all I knew was struggle and financial struggle, and I still to this day, have trauma around money because of it. But I say all that to say I wasn't going to give up what I had figured out, I was just going to get better at it.

Pamela Cass: 14:01

I was going to tighten my circle.

Joe Buckner: 14:03

And then a gentleman, an old-timer. Have either of you ever seen Shawshank Redemption?

Pamela Cass: 14:08

Yeah, yeah.

Joe Buckner: 14:09

So Morgan Freeman's character would be described as an old-timer, someone who's been in a long time, or they've been in and out a bunch and they're really, really well-respected. So when they want to talk to you, listen. And one day an old-timer came to me and he goes hey, let me talk to you, young blood. I said all right, bet. He says you don't belong here. I said obviously I do, I'm here. I did the things. So he says no, I've been in and out of this place a long time. I know who belongs and who doesn't. You don't belong here. All you ever do is read, work out and keep to yourself. You're not causing trouble. He says I'm going to tell you how this goes. He goes one of two ways. He says you can get out of here. He says you got a five-year sentence. You'll probably be out in a year and you can try the thing again and think you'll be better and I'll see you back here next year. He said or you can make a decision right now to be the kind of man that never comes back to this place. He said but if you make that choice, you have to keep making it every single day for the rest of your life, and that was the first time in my life that anybody told me that I had a choice. I just kind of always was like oh, life is happening, so let me react. Right, that was the first time interesting in that space that someone said to me oh, you get to choose what your life looks like. And from that day forward I just kept making that decision. I'm not a man that'll go back to prison. I'm not a man that'll go back to prison. I'm not a man that'll go back to prison.

Joe Buckner: 15:27

Just to give you an example, I got released in 2006 in the end of April and I was in a halfway house. I worked really hard to get out of there and get in my own little cat urine smelling apartment that cost me $575 a month, but it was mine and the kids couldn't come stay with me. And February 2007, the last day of the month, it was like a Tuesday. I didn't get paid till Friday and I only had $38 left in my account and I needed to pay rent for it. So my brain immediately went to okay, I still have some connections, I know some people, I can make that money in a couple of hours, no problem. And I thought about my kids. I said, man, if you got caught doing that, they will put you under the jail. Your life will never be the same.

Joe Buckner: 16:11

So I did something I never did. I took some accountability and I called my landlord and I said hey, john, I don't have all the rent money and I'm really sorry. I get paid on Friday, but I totally understand if you need me to move out because I can't fulfill my obligation. John says cool, I'll see you on Friday, joe. And he hangs up the phone and I was like, oh, that worked. He was willing to work with me, like communication and so. But that was one of those defining moments where I could have went this way. But instead I said I'm going to keep making this choice over and over and over again, even when it's hard, even when I know I got to pay $2.38 in gas at the pump because I don't have any actual money but I need to get around. I'm still going to keep making this choice because keep putting one foot in front of the other. Eventually the road's going to rise up for me.

Natalie Davis: 16:59

Wow. And in those moments or I guess in that moment is where you were initially reminded that each day, you do get that choice. Like, you get to make the decision of what it's going to look like.

Joe Buckner: 17:10

Yeah, yeah. So now I'm one of those crazy people that I'm always telling people like oh, I'm constantly creating a world around me. Every day, I choose what this life is going to look like, and it looks like it. There's no reason a four-time felon who was homeless with a poor kid from the north side of Ford College could have been in Italy two weeks ago. People that come from where I come from don't do that. It's not a thing, right. But I'm creating this every day, with my thoughts, with my words, with my actions, with creating it. If it wasn't for that encounter, I might be back in prison.

Natalie Davis: 17:38

Yeah, amazing.

Joe Buckner: 17:40

Absolutely the right words at the right time right.

Natalie Davis: 17:43

Yeah, exactly. And so now, as a business owner, specifically talking about Beautifully Savage Boxing Gym, tell us about that journey. How did you land there?

Joe Buckner: 17:55

It requires maybe a step back, like a couple steps back from that you may, yeah, go right ahead.

Joe Buckner: 18:00

So when I came home I worked at a bagel shop and it was great, but again I was like hungry for more. And then I took a job at this place called aaron's, because they had a sign in the window that said get promoted to general manager average salary 75 to 100 thousand dollars within 12 months. I was like I know me, like I would do that, I would do that, right. So I was getting paid. Mine was 2006. I was getting paid, mine was 2006,. I was getting paid $12.50 an hour, imagine, and I took vacation it's $9 an hour to start at this other place and it was a rent-to-own place where you can rent furniture, buy a business.

Joe Buckner: 18:36

But I believed the sign and, sure enough, within three weeks I was a sales manager. Within five months I was a general manager and I worked there for six years. And I have a friend, his name is Baron, and I was the number one salesperson in the company. 2,400 stores every month for like 19 months. My commission checks would be like 1,300 for the month. And so my friend Baron says to me he's like you're probably one of the best I've ever seen at this. It's just the things that you sell don't make very much money.

Joe Buckner: 19:05

You need to figure out how to sell things that pay more money right and I was like all right, so you know, ipso facto get connected with some people. And through baron and I got offered a job in Chicago selling private jets and I was like this is my thing I'm gonna do. And at the time my little girl had been born, I was engaged and I wasn't aware that her mom was unhappy with our relationship. So when I came home she was like I don't want to be together. So not only had I quit my job, but now I had to move out and I didn't have anywhere to go and I was too ashamed to tell people, because there were a lot of people that probably would have let me stay in a room with someone.

Joe Buckner: 19:40

I was too ashamed, so I ended up homeless, was, and so this is, I'm gonna get to the music. That's kind of the homeless. But because I had been in prison, because I had learned how to become the man that I need to be to get through whatever I got to get through, it was okay being homeless, because I knew this was only temporary, because I know me and if I'm the problem, which I am right now, well, I'm also the solution. So let me figure it out. And what I realized was whether it was I was staying at the Motel 6, eating at the Waffle House, like those are my options back then I was like I got to keep showing up.

Joe Buckner: 20:13

So my friend, he had this business doing Google inside tours like the interior building they do Google virtual tour and he had joined this networking group called BNI. And he said man, I hate one of these meetings. They're like four hours every Wednesday, you're not allowed to miss. He said I know you're struggling right now. Go to the meeting for me.

Joe Buckner: 20:33

You get free breakfast, so you'll get to eat that day for sure, and any business that comes from it, I'll pay you 20%. I was like cool, but what I realized was that's not why God put me there. So one day I was in the Motel 6, because most of my days would look like this Okay, do I spend $7 eating at the Waffle House or do I keep a roof over my head at the Motel 6? Do I put $9 in my car for gas so I can go look for a job, or do I eat food? These were the decisions I had to make every single day, and that story I told you earlier was real.

Joe Buckner: 21:03

One day I went through King Soopers on Drake and Timberline. When I pulled up, I was the only person there and I was happy because I had to go up and pay and I had $2.38. I'll never forget that I had $2.38 in change. I had scrounged it up in my car and I walked up and I was like, well, thank God no one else is here, because I'm just going to put my little chain down, put the money in and get up out of here. And I don't know if this was an opportunity for me to be humbled or to just embrace my journey. But I promise you, I was the only one there. But I got up to the thing. That was like nine people in line and you know, a little cashier doesn't care about your feelings. So I put the thing down and they go. So so you want $2.38 on number six. I was like, yeah, I'll do it Right. So that's where I was at, yeah, but I was like I'm going to figure this out, I'm going to keep swinging, I'm going to keep fighting, I'm going to figure this out.

Joe Buckner: 21:50

So one day I was in the Motel 6 and I said you know, you are, hands down, the most talented person that anybody knows. There's no reason for you to field business position. You're willing to work hard. You need to figure this out. So I grabbed a little piece of paper, one of those little janky Motel 6 pencils, and I started writing what do I want in life? He said I need an opportunity. I don't need a job, I need an opportunity. An opportunity has to look like this I need a salary because if I have guaranteed money every month, I can make sure that me and my kids are good. I need commissions and bonuses. My friend said if I sell things that pay a lot more, I'll make more money. I'm really good at this. I need commissions and bonuses. I need a car allowance. These people are going to come take my car any day now because I can't pay for it anymore. I need benefits so me and my kids can live with doctors and dentists, get our eyes checked. These are the things that I need.

Joe Buckner: 22:41

I kept going to the networking thing. You know, one day, this gentleman named Heath Caston. I stood up. I'll never forget Heath. He changed my life forever. He said hi, everybody, I'm new to the group and I need a salesperson. The job has them. I'm just 2012. It has a $42,000 salary. It has commissions and bonuses that are uncapped.

Joe Buckner: 22:59

We have $350 a month per allowance benefits, medical, dental vision and our biggest client is the Denver Broncos. Let me know if you know anybody. I had that job three weeks later. Three weeks after that, I got my check, got my apartment, got my kids back Sucked for the first nine months because I didn't know what I was like oh, that's crazy. Then the next month I made $11,000. I was like I can get used to this. Then $17,000 and $20,000. I made $55,000 in a month. I was like, oh, I'm getting this, I'm figuring this out Every day.

Joe Buckner: 23:37

I woke up and I hated my life, going from being homeless a big house on Rigdon Farm, two cars like I hated my life. The people that I worked for were not honest people. They didn't do right by the people that I'm bringing in customers. He didn't. And one day my best friend flies in from Arizona, pick him up from the airport. He says hey, man, how's everything going? I'm like I hate my life. He said you have to be kidding. You were literally homeless two years ago Exactly. There's no way you can hate your life. I said I do, I do. I said because I think there's more for me out there. Cash and commission checks is cool. Two free trips to Mexico is cool, but there's more for me out there than this. He says okay, and this is just how his mind works. He goes.

Joe Buckner: 24:21

Let's say I gave you $4 million and you could just live off the interest. What would you do? But I would open a boxing fitness gym, because I helped open the title boxing program. But I would open a boxing fitness gym and at the time people had already started asking me to speak in the thing and I was just like it's cool. But sometimes I felt like I'd go to these conferences conferences with a bunch of speakers in the feltberry like me focus. I was like I'm good. I said I would open a boxing fitness studio and I would put people in the room and I would wear a microphone and everything I would say on the stage. I would say to them but instead of getting them for 15, 30 minutes an hour to get on five days a week for an hour at a time, really pouring into people's life, I could use my story and my struggles to remind people that they're worth fighting for, that they have one more fight left in them. That's what I would do.

Natalie Davis: 25:08

We hope that you've enjoyed part one of our two-part interview with Mr Joe Buckner. From going to being a homeless individual, but never being hopeless, joe had an opportunity on numerous occasions to really craft what his life was going to look and feel like, and he didn't skip out on those opportunities. Make sure to come back and join us for part two so that we can continue to hear how Joe is not only transforming his life, but transforming so many lives of the people around him. We'll see you soon. Thank you for joining us on today's episode of Reignite Resilience. We hope that you had amazing ahas and takeaways. Remember to subscribe on your favorite streaming platform, like it and download the upcoming episodes, and if you know anyone in your life that is looking to continue to ignite their resilience, share it with them. We look forward to seeing you on our future episodes and, until then, continue to reignite that fire within your hearts.