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Dr. Lee Vliet – Part Two: The Dark Rebranding of Eugenics Today

Christian Elliot Episode 34

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Is the resurgence of eugenics ideologies influencing today's global policies? Join me for a compelling conversation with Dr. Lee Vliet as we explore the historical roots and modern implications of the eugenics movement, from the early 2000s to the present day. We'll dissect the roles played by global organizations and political figures in perpetuating these disturbing agendas, and provide you with a historical map that uncovers hidden truths about the global depopulation agenda and the impacts of SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2.

Ever wondered how government control over healthcare might be linked to a broader depopulation strategy? We're scrutinizing policies around contraception, abortion, and healthcare rationing, and discussing the consequences of the 2009 TARP legislation, electronic medical records, and the controversial Independent Payment Advisory Board. Through an examination of Ezekiel Emanuel's philosophy and the reshaping of the physician-patient relationship, we'll reveal how these changes culminated in the enactment of Obamacare in 2010 and reshaped America's healthcare landscape.

Finally, we'll take a hard look at the annual flu shot, the profound impact of President Trump's election on public health policies, and the mysterious events leading up to the COVID-19 pandemic. Get ready for an in-depth exploration of the narratives around COVID-19, the suppression of early treatments, and the push towards experimental vaccines. Concluding with a discussion on the importance of maintaining health through natural means and spiritual well-being, Dr. Vliet and I emphasize rejecting fear and trusting in the body's innate ability to heal.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, welcome to episode number 34. This is part two of my conversation with the amazing Dr Leigh Vliet and in case you did not hear my previous episode with her, I'd encourage you to go back and listen to that interview before diving into today's show. In the introduction to that episode I told you all about Dr Vliet's background and how her and I have so many overlapping interests, and she truly is a rare blend of historian and medical doctor. As a reminder, in the last episode we went all the way back to the early 1900s to trace some of the roots of the American eugenics movement through what eventually became Planned Parenthood, and we talked about the eugenics that was actually exported from the US to Germany and then brought back to the US after the war. We talked about what Catherine Austin Fitz refers to broadly as the great poisoning that has been going on in the US for the last several decades. We also talked about how vaccines were used for the purposes of sterilization and the coordinated efforts by 179 nations to reduce the population.

Speaker 1:

In today's episode we pick up with the continuously rebranded eugenics movement starting in the early 2000s and we trace it to present time. So let me first say that if the idea that such a movement is still with us and not something relegated to the waste bin of history. If that's hard to swallow, I get it. It's unsettling. It's one thing to realize such things happened in the past. It's another thing to sit with the reality that it is still with us today and we're currently being manipulated and lied to about it. So get ready for some ugly history that you probably lived through and didn't even know was happening. But be encouraged that the sickness is being brought into the sunlight and this episode will give you more discernment to read the headlines of world events. So here's to entertaining tough concepts and finding the resolve to have the hard but non-hysterical conversations we need to be having about real evil that walks among us today as a wolf in sheep's clothing. If we can face it, god can help us fix it.

Speaker 1:

All right, with that said, here is part two of my conversation with Dr Lee Vliet. All right, hello everyone, welcome back to the show. It is my honor to re-welcome Dr Lee Vliet to continue our conversation. I guess I'd say we're. We could say we're excited to have him, but we're more just. We accept the responsibility to have this conversation about some of the ugly things in the history of humanity and to do our best to just bring them into the sunlight and talk about some of what we have lived through. So we're part two of our conversation on eugenics and just replaying the history so we can see more clearly an accurate map of reality and work to build our lives around what's real, not what's the official reality. And so, dr Vliet, welcome back to the show. It's great to have you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much, Christian. It's a pleasure to be back with you.

Speaker 1:

Fantastic. Well, let's dive in. So we left the listener right around the end of the 1990s last time in this timeline of the eugenics history, and so jump in for us and kind of just start from the 2000s forward, and this will get a little more personal because we've all mostly lived through this era, and so I guess if there's good news here, it's that, no matter which political party you may have been a part of or who you voted for, both sides of this aisle have let us down and have participated in this agenda. So take heart that we're just going to talk about what has happened and do our best to give you some eyes to see things that may have been in the shadows before. So take it away, dr Vliet.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you, christian.

Speaker 2:

And I think the important thing is that, while people may say, well, why go back over all of the bad things that have happened, I see it more as connecting the dots of how these pieces of the puzzle and what we've been living through in the last four years, since COVID was unleashed on the world, how the pieces of the puzzle were put in place long before 2020, and how that fit with the 100-year plan of depopulation which has been promoted by the eugenics movement, by the Club of Rome, the Committee of 300, cairo Population Accords and a host of the global predators who choose to subjugate humanity and kill off humanity to serve their own purposes.

Speaker 2:

And in order to stand against it and to fight back to survive, we need to understand what they've put in place and how we can begin to expose it and rally more people to stand against it. And so I think that's why the Lord has us in this place at this time, with the knowledge that you and I each have taken time and effort to uncover, so that we can share it with others and be the watchman on the wall which God asked us to do.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, well, that's why we're here. So start giving the listener some of the history they may not know. We'll go back to 2000, 2001 and take it from there.

Speaker 2:

Well, it was in the time frame of 2001 to 2002 that the SARS-CoV-1 respiratory virus outbreak occurred and this was also a lab leak from Wuhan China Institute of Virology and it was more limited in spread and it did not reach the level of a global pandemic. But what is significant about the SARS-CoV-1 viral illness is that later in 2020, sars-cov-2, or COVID-19 as it was also called, that viral illness, when they did the sequencing of the actual genome of the viruses, sars-cov-1 and SARS-CoV-2 shared about 80% of the same genome. I think medically that is significant is that the NIH under Anthony Fauci's agent I mean Anthony Fauci was at NIAID under the NIH at and lied to the public on that as well. That was in the 80s and my point about this is that research that they did at NIH in the early 2000s showed unequivocally that chloroquine and its sister drug, hydroxychloroquine, had potent antiviral activity against the SARS-CoV-1 virus. They did the research around 2002 to 2003. The paper was published in 2005 in the Journal of Virology, which is the publication of Fauci's own agency, that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine were potent antivirals against SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 that shared 80% of the same genetic makeup. So we had a treatment and I found that article from 2005 in about five minutes on the internet in March of 2020.

Speaker 2:

So I knew then that we had drugs that could work against this new COVID illness that we were being told was a novel virus. It wasn't novel and it was man-made in gain-of-function studies. And what was interesting about hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine is that they blocked the first two steps in the establishment of a viral illness. They blocked the virus entry into the cells and they blocked the second step, which is viruses use our cellular machinery, or animals' cellular machinery, to replicate and then spread throughout the body of the host. So hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine blocked viral entry into the cells and they blocked replication. So it's very clear and it worked.

Speaker 2:

I treated all of my patients with COVID very quickly three to five days of symptoms. We got on treatment right away combination approaches that Dr Zelenko and myself and many other doctors were using at the time and put all the combination medicines and nutraceuticals together and everyone I treated for COVID recovered. No one went in the hospital and no one died. So we didn't need the vaccine. The COVID injection was designed to be toxic to reproduction and the cardiovascular and nervous systems in particular, and it was, as Dr Mike Yidden has said so often, toxic by design.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the hard part to swallow is that there was malicious intent and it was you're rewinding like we already saw this movie back in 2001 and 2002 and it didn't. They didn't hit the scale they wanted. So they basically pulled it off again, and this time with more breadth of uh, I guess media hype to go with it and on testing and everything else. So give us the in-between these kind of things, or I guess I don't want to redirect you. Finish your point on the SARS-1 and 2.

Speaker 2:

I think the point is that the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak really was like a dry run and they were already working on the mRNA vaccine technology. Then they were working on that same technology for the AIDS virus and they never were able to accomplish that. So the mRNA technology has been in development for at least 25 years. Technology has been in development for at least 25 years, perhaps a little longer and the lipid nanoparticle component of the vaccine I want to emphasize this right here and we'll probably pick it up again later that was known to be damaging to ovaries and testicles in all animal species studied 15 years ago. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

So when they were working on this technology and they needed to coat the mRNA with lipid nanoparticle technology to drive it across the cell membrane to get into the blood brain barrier and into the brain to cross the placental barrier to get the mRNA inside our cells, that was the technology they used and at least 15 years ago they knew that it damaged reproduction in males and females of all species studied. So let that sink in. When you say it's hard to wrap your mind around the intentionality of it, of the damage, you have to look at the fact that they went ahead using the technology they already knew damaged reproduction. So it's clear evidence that damage to reproduction was known, planned and delivered in the COVID shot.

Speaker 2:

And if you look at the COVID illness that was so easily treatable, quickly in the outpatient setting, you know I realize people died from COVID illness. But they died because they were told to go home and if they got worse come back and treat when it was already past the viral illness and into catastrophic inflammatory cascade and acute respiratory distress syndrome and at that point treatment is very difficult. But all the early treatment approaches for that illness worked very well. The reason they were not allowed to be used. Doctors were prevented from using them. Is that the agenda was to push people use covid shots? The covid shots were the were the end game.

Speaker 1:

Covid was what was used to scare people to get the shot yeah, no other thing is important to understand the covid shots the only answer to everything else that might impact health. It's like we do nothing or we do the shot and there's no other thing on the table, and it's such a weird thing to rewind and look at and be like, yeah, why was it that there were no other things we were allowed to do?

Speaker 2:

Well, and there were other things that were discussed in the media, because I was one of the people talking about hydroxychloroquine, for example.

Speaker 2:

But we were were suppressed.

Speaker 2:

We were censored, suppressed, doctors were persecuted, doctors lost jobs, doctors lost medical licenses.

Speaker 2:

So it was clearly a an orchestrated censorship designed to prevent the larger public from knowing there were treatments available. Now, if you fast forward, from following the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak in 2002, in 2005, the World Health Regulatory Agreement document, pushed by the World Health Organization, was signed by 196 countries who gave up their sovereignty and ceded authority to the World Health Organization to be able to dictate response to any designated and this is the critical term quote public health emergency of international concern. End quote, or PHEIC, and some have pointed out that means fake if you pronounce it. But a public health emergency of international concern was the buzzword that triggered the legal framework of the 2005 International Health Regulatory Agreement to be implemented by WHO, allowing the World Health Organization to have control of medical delivery, public health measures, media narratives, medications used, and that has major implications for population control because by suppressing treatments that work later ivermectin was clearly one of those the world health organization was participating in the depopulation, the long-term depopulation agenda, and then fast forward.

Speaker 2:

So that's 196 nations agreeing to let the world health Organization dictate their response in a public health emergency, rather than local public health officials in each country assessing the situation on the ground in their country and making decisions for their country based on their needs, which is the way it's had always been yeah then, in 2009, when president obama had just been inaugurated, ezekiel emmanuel wrote a new paper on the complete live system and he became the White House senior health policy czar under Obama and the architect of Obamacare, with billions of dollars cut from care for the elderly with Medicare and older Americans, and it provided for government-funded contraception, government-funded abortion, rationing of care for the elderly and shifting money into to treating younger people between roughly ages 15 to 40. That was all part of the depopulation agenda as well. If you provide free contraception across the board, paid for by the government, free abortion, paid for by the government, you're preventing pregnancy, you're ending pregnancy, so you're decreasing the population. At that end, you're decreasing the population in the older age group by rationing care so they die sooner. And then that all goes to the long range eugenics agenda. And then also in 2009, which most people don't realize is that that was when the Troubled Assets Relief legislation, or TARP, was passed as a financial answer to the economic crash of 2008, in the fall of 2008. And the TARP legislation unknown to the broader public, because that was another one of those massive bills that nobody read and how it was ready within a month of Obama's inauguration is another questionable point to consider.

Speaker 2:

This massive legislation was obviously prepared ahead, but what they hid in that was two tracks of control of healthcare and rationing medical services. The health information technology legislation that mandated the electronic medical records that allowed tracking of everything about you, including whether or not you were a gun owner. So they actually began tracking gun ownership in medical databases, with directions to pediatricians and primary care doctors to ask children, under the guise of safety do your parents have a gun in the home? So they were already starting to track gun ownership through the medical records. And I spoke on that at a major event in Idaho about 7,000 people in the audience that day. And I start telling all of these people in Idaho, they're going to be tracking your guns in the medical database and the crowd roared. I bet they did.

Speaker 1:

That's so invasive.

Speaker 2:

Well, yes, and I said you watch it's coming, and sure enough it has. So the health care information, electronic medical records, they track everything. Secondly, in the TARP, they also set up the Independent Payment Advisory Board for rationing of medical care. Now, later, that was what Sarah Palin referred to as the death panels and everybody mocked her and said, oh no, it's not in Obamacare. Well, it wasn't in Obamacare. Well, it wasn't in Obamacare. That was passed in 2010. They had already passed this in 2009. So it was all in place. Wow.

Speaker 2:

In case Obamacare didn't get passed.

Speaker 1:

And that's the Independent Patient Advisory Board, is where they were able to restrict.

Speaker 2:

Yes the.

Speaker 2:

Independent Payment Advisory Board was a panel of experts set up to decide what Medicare would pay for, Medicare Medicaid would pay for and what they would not, which, in effect, rationed care. For example, if you have a certain body mass index, they wouldn't pay for a knee replacement because you're too fat. So they could make decisions like if you're too fat or too old or you have diabetes, then we're not going to pay for these services. So they were ratcheting down the services that would be allowed. So, like in the UK, they wouldn't pay. The NHS wouldn't pay for Lucentis for macular degeneration until you'd already lost the vision in one eye, Whereas in the US people could have it preventively to prevent loss of sight in both eyes. So it's that that was the group that was to make those decisions now and that was already in place. That's what I wanted people to understand. And it was around 2009 that pharma research. So see, a lot of these things were coming together right as.

Speaker 2:

Obama came, took office, they knew they were going to go for government control of health care, and so all of these pieces of the puzzle were being put into place to facilitate that. And it was around 2009 that the Pharma Research Journals published papers showing that the lipid nanoparticle technology for the mRNA shots damaged the ovaries and testicles in every animal species, so they already knew it caused reproductive damage as early as 2009.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Maybe earlier.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's such patient gradualism that these people practice of just laying to your point, laying train tracks. We're going to need this in 10 years, so let's get this in place and we've got to figure out how to market it and which buzzwords the people are going to swallow and it's just a patient attempt to their agenda is set are going to swallow, and it's just a patient attempt to. Their agenda is set and it's just digging through the rubble of their uh, the forensic audit, if you will, of what they have been doing. You unearth stuff like you can actually see intent, not just bad judgment oh, exactly.

Speaker 2:

No, there's no question. This was intentional design of curtailing life.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's also the hubris to say you know what we need to have some people in Washington decide how long you should live and which, as if they're somehow qualified to be taking in all the information relative to your situation, and they've thought of everything. It doesn't even pass the smell test that we would have a system like that, yet that's precisely what they were building, for a different purpose.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And then 2010,. Obamacare was passed, which put the government the federal government in control of every decision made in health care what insurance you could buy, what the insurance companies could charge for it, what they could cover, what they were required to cover. There was no longer risk management decided by the insurance carriers, it was decided by the federal government as to what the standards would be, and massive cuts to Medicare services. So Obamacare has been one of the biggest intrusions into the physician-patient relationship and the ability of doctors to decide independently for a patient what's in that patient's best interest, and that was part of Ezekiel Emanuel's philosophy. In the complete life system, we need to do away with the oath of Hippocrates, focus on the individual and we need to focus on the collective good. That's a Marxist concept.

Speaker 1:

Right, well, and what we decided is a complete life. Like, we'll define that for you and then, when you fall outside of our definition, then your access to services are cut off. Like, what a gross way to approach anything but carry on.

Speaker 2:

So then we come to the years of 2011 to 2015. And that was the surge of the border crisis, the first time under Obama and when the Border Patrol and I was working directly with some of the Border Patrol and counterterrorism agents here in Arizona at the time and they were updating me on what was coming across the border and I was giving talks with them about the implications medically of the diseases coming across the border. And so, from 2011 through 2015, we had massive numbers of illegal aliens from countries around the world, particularly Central America, pakistan, china, middle East, north Africa, coming across the border. The southern border, tucson sector, was particularly hard hit during that time. Texas also, california's border wall was more secure, so there was less of a problem there.

Speaker 2:

But that's when a lot of the mysterious respiratory illnesses began cropping up in cities around the US and people didn't understand where it was coming from. That, particularly in 2014, the mysterious respiratory illnesses that popped up in American cities, killing young children, and that was later traced to a viral illness brought in by Central American illegals that the DHS planes Department of Homeland Security contracted. Planes were flying all over the US. We tracked some of those. They would pay for charter flights from Tucson International Airport between midnight and 3 am nonstop from Tucson to cities. We never had nonstop service to and these charter flights. Then, when we started exposing it in some of our medical and other activist groups, they stopped listing the flights on Flight Tracker.

Speaker 2:

Yep, they caught them with their hand in the cookie jar and they have to change tactics because they've been brought into the sunlight even between midnight for these illegals coming across the border and one of our whistleblowers in Arizona went back through the federal budget leading up to that and found in the federal budget the funds that were allocated in 2011 for the border surge that took place in 2014.

Speaker 1:

So what's your sense? I don't know if this is in your purview or not, but how does the eugenics angle tie into the human trafficking and organ harvesting and those sorts of things that are obviously are still here going on? But what is the?

Speaker 2:

is that correlated or they just yes, I think it is First of all. First of all, immigration done legally always has medical screening, regardless of what country. I mean when, when we were legal immigrants to Chile to get a visa to live and work, a residency visa, in Chile, panama and a couple of other places around the same time, we had to go through medical screening. Legal immigrants to America have to go through medical screening. The illegals do not have any screening and they come from countries that don't have vaccination programs for the kinds of diseases that had been eradicated in the US, vaccination programs for the kinds of diseases that had been eradicated in the US smallpox and many others. Tuberculosis was nearly eradicated in the US until these border surges of illegals from countries that had a high incidence of drug-resistant tuberculosis, and now that's skyrocketed in the US. And it's very expensive, very hard to treat.

Speaker 2:

So when you have these diseases you have, people die from those. You also are weakening people's immune system, damaging their health. So it's a combination of depopulation through death and through abortion and through infertility preventing pregnancy, but it's also depopulation through gradual weakening of people in their health and they die earlier than their life expectancy would otherwise be. So it all ties together and it ties into the replacement of the people who were born in America, whether they were Native Americans or whether they were Anglo-Saxons, whether they came from other countries and legally immigrated here. People who were naturalized citizens of America were born here. Those people with people who have none of our cultural history, none of our values, then you are undermining the fabric of society, which also leads to more violence and more death from criminal action as well. So it all serves the long range agenda of reducing the population.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, similar to like you're straining the municipalities, you're straining the economics, the workforce, the housing, like all of it, and medical services. Yeah, sure, yeah, it's just you're it's corrosive to a society is basically it's corrosive to a society is basically the way they're doing it Exactly.

Speaker 2:

It's designed to collapse a society. It's the Cloward-Bivins strategy that was taught as a Marxist strategy for overthrowing a Western constitutional republic or constitutional democracy or a Western secular, civilized society. So then that was going on under Obama. Also under Obama, in 2012, he issued an executive order changing the Smith-Munt Act, which was a post-World War II law that prohibited using propaganda and lies on the American public for a political agenda. The Smith-Munt Act had always been in effect to prevent the use of propaganda and deception against the American people Reception against the American people. Obama issued unilaterally an executive order in 2012, called the Smith-Mont Modernization Act, specifically allowed CIA media, any government agency, any media outlet, to use propaganda to target Americans, to specifically support government narratives. That was the basis for the censorship that we've been experiencing, but we saw on steroids under the COVID era.

Speaker 1:

But what was the pretext for why that was a good idea? Did they have one?

Speaker 2:

Because it serves. No, it serves the government agenda, which was moving towards control of the population, pushing people in to only a government narrative.

Speaker 1:

So they never had to bother trying to sell this to the american people. They just did it in secret and dismissed this act.

Speaker 2:

So they don't have to bother with the pretense of well, exactly, and and that was the basis for the coordination of all of the major media outlets, all having the same script yeah, I didn't know and it was directed by the federal authorities yes, censorship was the thing that woke me up to.

Speaker 1:

This is way bigger than pharma. Never trusted the covid narrative from day one, but I didn't get how they could just censor and be like, yeah, we did that, so what? What are you going to do about it? Like it was just a bully that could continue to go on and you find I didn't know about this act you're talking about. But my gosh, they. They were so thorough and methodical at getting to the point of covid.

Speaker 2:

All for the same agenda they have been building the pieces and locking us down, tightening the vice for a hundred years yeah, but that's and it's only now that people are beginning to wake up through the activism and the truth tellers that have risked so much to bring the truth to the american people and the world. And then we move into 2016. And that election was also rigged. But they did not anticipate the landslide response for Trump and they had not changed enough of the votes and the plan was for Hillary Clinton to be president and finish the job that had started under the previous New World Order folks, particularly in the Marxist coup that Obama was putting in place and the more draconian Hillarycare would have followed from Obamacare. Because Hillary's 1993 plan that I mentioned in the previous show was to eliminate all private medicine and no private care and more intensive rationing of medical services, particularly for the elderly and disabled.

Speaker 2:

And the election of President Trump in 2016 absolutely disrupted their plan for total socialized medicine and government control totally in the US. Control totally in the US. And he did push for free market reforms and patient freedom to import lower cost medicines from other countries. He cut US funding to the World Health Organization and his reforms were threats to this global plan to reduce the world population. That's why they one of many reasons they hated him so much because he was. He knew their plans and he was working to stop them.

Speaker 2:

So now it was Sean McCain, if you you know, the Republicans had control of the house, the Senate and the presidency at the beginning of President Trump's term, and it was John McCain who cast the vote that prevented repeal of Obamacare. Was Republican rhinos, new World Order loyalists, global predators, who prevented the repeal of Obamacare? President Trump worked very hard to do that, reinstituting more free market reforms and giving people more ability to cost, shop and import medicines from countries like Europe and Canada that had similar regulatory standards. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to buy them from there, and he put that into place, but it was the sabotage from within the Republican Party that prevented him then, just like we see him being sabotaged by RINO, republican and name only Republican snail, who are compromised by their New World Order allegiance.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's so many different theories and threads about what's going on at that level, but it is. You can see that the things we can look at, the things we can document, definitely point to ugly agendas. I remember in I think it was 2019, somebody I think her name was Heidi at the World Health Organization came out and said the number one threat to public health now is vaccine hesitancy, like couldn't be, like unclean water or lack of food. It's like there are too many people who are kind of starting to wake up and realize these things aren't made by angels and they might have some damage and all the stuff you talked about last time with Gates influence in Africa and India and what was becoming known about that industry.

Speaker 1:

They were starting to sound the alarm that this, this could. The dam might break here and people might start not falling for this anymore. I just read today I think it was that the the uptake on vaccines right now is below pre-pandemic levels. People are backing away from these things, being like I just saw how the sausage is made and I want nothing to do with that anymore, and so well, I think.

Speaker 2:

That's why I think that's reasonable, because, for the most part, most of the things that they are pushing so many vaccines for are treatable. You don't really need them. And most people. Most people don't need an annual flu shot.

Speaker 1:

Right? Well, never mind what's in it 's, they still have mercury in those things. Like what in the world out, where, from what frame of reality, is injecting yourself with mercury going to boost your health like that? Nobody's been able to answer that question. We went to the most toxic end of the periodic table and we're going to mix this in with some antifreeze and glyphosate and this is going to help you get healthy. Like no I. I can't even make sense of that. So anyway, thank you.

Speaker 2:

No, no, you're absolutely right. And now okay. So the election of president Trump threw a monkey wrench, major monkey wrench, into their plans. But remember, I said it was the end of November 2019, 2016,. I'm sorry no-transcript.

Speaker 2:

So that was significant because Rick Bright single-handedly cost many hundreds of thousands of lives in sabotaging hydroxychloroquine and he later, in a whistleblower interview, bragged about the fact that he did that, that he countermanded his commander-in-chief and the Secretary of Health and Human Services, azar Services, azar he refused to follow their orders to make hydroxychloroquine available through the national stockpile.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And sabotage that. He did promote that, and then remember in 2017 that Fauci was in a video that circulated all over the internet after COVID was unleashed and said that the new President Trump would face an infectious disease, global pandemic.

Speaker 2:

Well, how did he know, unless he had inside information about the plants? And there were some very highly significant events then in 2019, right before the november election of 2020. So, event 2001 at johns hop Hopkins, with China's minister of health attending, along with US public health officials, and they simulated a coronavirus pandemic Very similar to what ultimately rolled out. And the military games in China were also held in October 2019. The US military participated and that's where many were likely exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 that had already been circulated in China as early as what later came out as August 2019. And then in October and November 2019, military and intelligence personnel returning to the US after being exposed to SARS-CoV-2. For example, there were many military flights into the CIA facility at Camp Perry, williamsburg, virginia, where I lived for many years before moving to Arizona, and evacuation of embassy personnel. Many of them came into the Camp Perry facility coming back from Wuhan.

Speaker 2:

And what's very interesting is that the little town of Williamsburg, virginia, was hit unusually hard by COVID in the first couple of months of the COVID pandemic, which is not usual, except for the. I mean, it's not. It's not a big city and it's not like New York or Washington, where there are huge crowds of people and it's easier to spread a respiratory illness. Williamsburg is more spread out. It's a small town and for that town to have been hit as hard as it was because I still have friends there and I was there in October of 2019, and maybe even exposed myself around that time so it was quite striking how rampant COVID spread in Williamsburg, virginia, and it wasn't until about a year later from some of our military people that I learned that that's where the evacuees from the intelligence community and the embassy in Wuhan were brought into Camp Perry in Williamsburg in October, november 2019. Wow.

Speaker 2:

So then we come to January 2020, and this is an election year. So what happens? Suddenly, there's a novel virus. Yes, they lied about the asymptomatic spread. They locked everything down and shut down everything that might help you stay healthy, like going out to parks for exercise, going to church All sorts of things were shut down, but liquor stores, marijuana dispensary and bars and strip clubs were all open. So I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that and then we move into.

Speaker 2:

The only solution is the vaccine. There's no early treatment another lie. And so, all through 2020, doctors like me and my colleagues who were speaking out about we have treatment, we can treat people early. All of that was being suppressed. Terrorizing the public with COVID is untreatable unless you wait for the vaccine, and so pushing everyone into this experimental vaccine, lying about FDA approval this is another example where Obama's change in the Smith-Munt Act allowed them to lie about the fact that the COVID shots were FDA approved. They never were. They still aren't. They were all experimental. They were all developed as countermeasures, which meant they were not under regulatory oversight for clinical trials, for safety, for disclosures of ingredients. They were developed as countermeasures and the DOD contract was for a prototype. It's all in the court records of the Brooke Jackson case against Pfizer. Wow Everything.

Speaker 2:

I've just said.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they just took the onerous pretense of some sort of method and testing and safety and they just oh, that's so inconvenient. If we want to poison the people, this is in the way. We're going to have to find a clever way to get rid of that need to pretend, and so we can just create these shots and roll them out. And you probably know way better than I do that the breadth of differences by batch and the shoddy workmanship and the high death rates in some hotspots around the world there's just so many things that don't make sense. But speak to that a little bit. Not only did they just erase the need to pretend they were doing real science, they then just rushed to market things they knew were going to poison us and some of the carnage that we've seen. So give us your lived experience of walking through that.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's very clear and I connected with Dr Mike Yeadon early in all of this. Mike Yeadon early in all of this. I heard his warnings in the fall of October, november 2020 about the risk to pregnancy and fertility and I knew that we had a serious problem from all that he and Professor Wolfgang Wodarg in Germany were warning about then. Then I met Dr Yadin in July 2021, and that was the point at which he brought out that earlier pharma research that showed the toxicity of the lipid nanoparticles to ovaries and testicles and I knew that we had massive adverse impact coming on fertility and reproduction and pregnancy.

Speaker 2:

Started working with Todd Callender after he had sued the Department of Defense to stop the mandates in the military and stop the use of force to administer the shots. I started working with him in the fall of 2021, and that was when he asked us to develop the medical freedom program and legal defense grants to help the military service members and civilians but mainly the military, because they didn't have the same freedom to leave a job that civilians do and help defend their constitutional rights for religious exemptions, medical exemptions and to refuse an experimental shot. So that was when we began really seeing all of the damage unfolding and the COVID shots not only causing death, sudden death and death of elderly people as well as young people, but also the rising miscarriage rate, the decline in live births, the spontaneous abortions that were occurring, infertility problems skyrocketing, men's testicular function damage. So it was very clear that the damage from the shots were causing death and disability, but also it was fitting the design to adversely affect reproduction, which was the long-term population depopulation agenda. And many people don't know about.

Speaker 2:

The DAGEL report and that's spelled D-E-A-G-E-L was a website that one of the big areas was a focus on population changes to come and the Daigle report daiglecom in 2023, 2022, 2023, 2022-2023, made the projection of a 78% decline in population of the UK by 2025, declines in population of Israel, australia, us, canada, essentially all of the Western European and North American and Western countries like Australia, new Zealand. The Daiglecom website had population declines anywhere from 35 to 78 percent in those countries by 2025.

Speaker 1:

In those countries by 2025.

Speaker 2:

So they're expecting we are seeing that we are seeing those declines playing out.

Speaker 1:

Maybe not at that scale, but what you're saying is there's a definite reversal of population growth. Is that?

Speaker 2:

fair Reversal, an actual increase in loss of population. The US suffered the biggest infant mortality increase in 20 years in 2022. Live births are down anywhere from 15 to 20 percent across european countries that are heavily vaccinated. It's staggering, I mean. I mean. The numbers are truly staggering. In fact, edward dowd and others have projected that we may well be on track to meet the daigle projections by 2025.

Speaker 1:

That's next year, that's not I know 2050. That's what's shocking about it. I know I didn't realize the numbers of live births had gone down that much, but by golly they have been effective at executing this plan.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's devastating. It's absolutely devastating. Devastating, it's absolutely devastating. In fact, some of the experts that I've interviewed for our whistleblower report talk about the danger of population collapse, not excessive population right which makes the we are below replacement yeah, across most of the Western countries.

Speaker 1:

I knew that was trending down. I didn't know it was falling off a cliff like that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's falling off a cliff.

Speaker 1:

Dang, that is significant. All right. Well, let's get us to present day and we'll start giving the listeners some hope. There is always light at the end of the tunnel here.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's just go back to a couple of other points OK. All cause. Mortality is skyrocketing in heavily vaccinated countries, and this was just six months ago.

Speaker 1:

OK.

Speaker 2:

Data from Europe Croatia this is all causes of death. The percent increase since the shots rolled out. Croatia 14.6% increase in all causes of death. Italy 25%. Portugal, almost 29%. Greece 31%. Spain 37%. Iceland, 56%.

Speaker 1:

Where can people go? Look this up.

Speaker 2:

Well, it was quoted in our whistleblower report that aired in November 2023, and it was presented at the European Parliament by a former judge and member of the European Parliament.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I've been pretty decent about keeping up with things and I had not heard that. That's concerning, and if there's anything that can maybe start waking up some more people, that would be a great set of statistics to do that, my goodness.

Speaker 2:

So tell people listening to your program to go back and look at the archive of our whistleblower reports and all of the topics and the statistics that we've been and the damage that we've been reporting on for the last two years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think so many of us just like we have the COVID hangover, we just I don't want to even talk about it anymore. I just want to move on with my life and not deal with that. And if we don't understand what's happening, it's there's a blind spot there.

Speaker 2:

Well and Christian. To your point about coming to today and what do we do and what's a hopeful message as we need to wrap up this program. First of all, my unequivocal message is the COVID shots were toxic by design, as Dr Mike Eden has said thousands of times, and I agree. I have looked into the research extensively. I've been treating people who got the shots, who were healthy until they did and now are having all kinds of problems. People I've had as patients for 25 years who have just their health has fallen off a cliff since they got the shots and the boosters.

Speaker 2:

So point number one stop getting the experimental COVID shots. Don't get the avian flu shots, because they're the same mRNA technology, they're the same experimental types of injections. They aren't studied types of injections. They aren't studied, they haven't had field trials and they have ingredients that were known to be toxic from previous years. For example, with the swine flu there's a squalene ingredient that was toxic. That was one of the reasons that the swine flu vaccine was pulled off the market.

Speaker 2:

And so you've just got to look at doing the things you can do to be healthy Eat right, exercise, stress management, prayer and meditation, nutraceuticals, vitamins and do your best to take care of the health of your body and you don't need all of these experimental injections. We have the Vaccine Injury Treatment Guide on our website. We have the COVID Early Treatment Guide. All of those guides, the Radiation Injury Treatment Guide all of those treatment guides give you a roadmap to stay healthy, to repair damage and to take the steps to improve your health and resilience. And, fundamentally, we need to all look at the fact that our bodies, our mind, our spiritual connection with our creator are God's design.

Speaker 2:

And all of these pharma, vaccines and many of the medications that are being pushed to treat the complications of the shots, many of them are altering the design of our body and further impairing our health, altering the design of our body and further impairing our health, while they're making money for big pharma and while they are driving us on the road to a slow death. So I really think it's important that people need to read the information that we've worked hard to create for you, to give you a step-by-step action plan of what you can do to improve your health and resilience and not give in to the lies and the deception that somehow there's a magic drug or a magic vaccine that's going to fix you. Most of them just end up causing more side effects and more damage and more problems just end up causing more side effects and more damage and more problems.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, as a health coach who I'm jumping up and down in my seat saying yes to all of the lifestyle things you're talking about that's the work I do every day is helping people master the basics and get such a solid foundation of health that all these other medications and superfluous things that we add can just fall to the wayside because you don't need them anymore. You have a clear understanding of what's really going on, you can enjoy health and you can actually get back in the fight rather than living from a place of fear, and you can get on with a life that's meaningful and make a difference where you can. So thank you so much for doing the work you do. Thank you for the relentless fight, for having the courage to have this discussion. It's hard to find a doctor, one who knows this that well, but two who's willing to talk about it at length and just lay down and say, look, this is ugly, folks, but we've got to face it and once we do, we can actually do something about it. So thank you.

Speaker 2:

You have to know the plans of the enemy if you are going to put on the full armor of God and stand against them.

Speaker 1:

Right, you can't fight an enemy. You can't see. This is the art of war here and we're hoping to give you some more tools and armor and perspective. Just to when you hear narratives now, just say maybe and question things and don't be afraid that you can't overcome this, that your body is somehow flawed and the body can't fix things. It knows how to heal, but you have to do your part in the effort to live that life.

Speaker 2:

So any final thoughts or comments? You want to leave the listener with no. I just want to remind everyone that at our core, we are spiritual beings and we were created by God, not government.

Speaker 3:

We were created by God, not government and I urge everyone.

Speaker 2:

We are under assault and there are those who want to end our life. We need to turn back to God and we need to pray that God will guide us through the deeds of the evildoers and help us all stand against them the deeds of the evildoers and help us all stand against them and that our nation will turn back to God so that we can continue to go forward in all of the positive ways that have, over our history, made America great. So thank you for having me, christian.

Speaker 1:

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2:

Just for anybody who's listening, tell them where they can find your work wwwtruthforhealthorg, for the public charity work that I do and all of the resources I've just been talking about. And then my medical website is wwwvive. That's V-I-V-E lifecentercom.

Speaker 1:

Fantastic, All right folks and.

Speaker 2:

I do still see patients.

Speaker 1:

Yes, all these years later, you are still in the trenches, and that's why it's such an honor to have you. I know your time is valuable, so thanks for spending it with me today.

Speaker 2:

Thank you very much, god bless. Keep up the great work. All right Thank you very much.

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