American Born Chatty Desis (A·B·C·D)
"ABCD (American Born Confused Desi)" is being redefined in new livestream/podcast series American Born Chatty Desis hosted by internet personalities Sandeep Parikh (The Guild, The Legend of Neil) and Omar Najam (Dimension 20). The two hosts (and a sometimes exciting guest) in front of a live chat, with a fast and loose format where they check in with their chakras, debate over their American roots v. Desi heritage then close with a ridiculous game! Come for the light hearted commentary, stay for the deep insights into life from the second generation point of view.
American Born Chatty Desis (A·B·C·D)
Mo Modi, Mo Problems ~ Indian Politics: A Chat with a Touch of Humor (A·B·C·D) Podcast Episode 25
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Ever thought about how the world's largest democracy impacts the global balance of power and human rights? Or how difficult it can be to assess the political leanings of news sources? We take you on an enlightening journey through these complex topics, weaving personal stories and thoughtful insights along the way. Join us as we dive into the political landscape of India, influenced heavily by Prime Minister Narendra Modi. We examine the challenges of maintaining cultural identity amidst political complexities. Our lively debate allows us to explore these perspectives, often conflicting with our loved ones, and reflect on the importance of understanding.
We continue exploring global issues that affect us all, emphasizing the significance of our personal experiences. We ponder over India's unique position in the global political arena, and the rise of the Indian diaspora in shaping the world. The conversation gets livelier as we playfully debate the fashion merits of footwear like crocs under a hypothetical "Najam administration" and the potential implications it could have. We share a chuckle, reminding ourselves that it's not all just about the serious stuff.
We then tap into the excitement of sports, discussing the MLB draft's first pick, 17-year-old Arjun Namal, and the growing power of Asian Americans in the field. We also touch upon the struggles of finding direction, the need for pushing back against oppressive forces, and the importance of standing up for what's right. This episode is a melting pot of formidable discussions, personal anecdotes, and a dash of humor. We hope you'll join us in this enlightening journey and broaden your understanding of the world around us.
Show Description:
An often belittling term, "ABCD (American Born Confused Desi)" is being redefined in new livestream/podcast series American Born Chatty Desis hosted by internet personalities Sandeep Parikh (The Guild, The Legend of Neil) and Omar Najam (Dimension 20). The two hosts (and a sometimes exciting guest) engage in front of a live chat, with a fast and loose format where they check in with their chakras and debate over their American roots v. Desi heritage! Come for the light hearted commentary, stay for the deep insights into life from the second generation point of view. We're here, we barely speak Hindi, get used to it.
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Speaker 1Yeah, so I'm gonna be kicking this off. Welcome to ABC. Before we get into the meat potatoes of this folks, I want to introduce you to our co-host this week voted. Most likely to be co-host it's Sandy Parikh.
Speaker 2Wow, thank you so much. It's great to live up to my thank you. It's great to live up to my yearbook Superlative. I'm so Excited and, look, I'm gonna just flip it right back to introducing our host. You know, he's, uh, he's, he's a leader. He's, uh, oh, you know, a world leader even. But, and really there's only one thing problematic about him is that Is that it's just not enough facial hair. I just more, more facial hair, and the world demands it. The world wants it. Oh my no, john. Ladies, gentlemen, Like a forehead goatee.
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Speaker 2Yes, and on tap for today, we get we do this in three parts baby. Yeah, we got our chakra check-in. We just check, we check in our alignment, and today we're talking about the C and ABCD. Okay, listen, in our show obviously we redefined it as chatty, but originally it's American born confused daisies, and there's something that I think we're both pretty confused about and that's uh, that's norendra modi, our the prime minister of india, recently visiting the united states, having this joint press conference with president biden, and I just don't think we really know how to entirely feel about about it, or, you know, they see politics in general. So, yeah, let's do what we do best when we're confused. We're gonna chat it out, we're gonna chat it out?
Speaker 2Number number two is we play a little game and we're gonna have the prime minister debate. Meaning, what if omar and I were this is the final debate and we we're gonna get thrown some, some topics from, from our our technical director, delvin, and chat is gonna vote who is gonna be the prime minister of ABCD. How about that? That's what we do I'm in and then, of course, we always end the show with desi of the week. Baby, yes, we got a good one for this week.
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Speaker 1Um, what are you feeling? Oh, man, gift of the badge, I stay inside and that's the thing that leads to my demise. All right, folks? Uh, let's head into our first act. It's the chuck or check in.
Speaker 2Oh, all right. So yes, we're checking with our chakras and I will say I think we're going to get a little bit of a Very disaligned maybe on this.
Speaker 2Um so, prime minister narendra, mohdi for those of you who don't know who what we're talking about. He is the 14th prime minister of india. He's been serving since may 2014. Under his tenure, india has experienced, you know, arguably democratic, backsliding Um and has been described as directing a political politics and is a controversial figure. Uh, over his hindu nationalist beliefs depending on if you're asking my dad, though, you might get a different explanation. Most recently, mohdi's uh, pjp party. That's the party that that, that sort of that he leads. Uh, they lost control in the 2023 party.
Speaker 2Uh, uh, oh boy, uh, karnataka state elections to india's opposition congress party, which kind of dealt a big blow to his ruling party, um, and which he had fought hard to to try to retain that power. So that's so that. So there's there's some shifting um balance and power. But, really, like he also just came to the us and so I think you know, in the like, seeing our president um with you know, india's president, there's a lot that to sort of like potentially unpack there, or India's Prime Minister, rather a lot to unpack there in terms of where we live in this. So, yeah, let's talk about that in. Whatever we want to, is this, is this something that? How do, how do you sort of digest Indian politics?
Navigating Sources for Indian Politics Analysis
Speaker 1That's. You know, that's what a great first question to start with, because here's the thing is. I'm not quite sure what the best sources of Indian politics analysis is.
Speaker 2Oh it's my, it's my uncle.
Speaker 1Oh yes, Sorry. Yeah, you're right. Well, that's a question there.
Speaker 2Just called Dillip uncle. Yeah he's sure to pick up. He answers every call. Even if he's in a, even if he's watching like a play, he'll answer the call just out loud.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, so that gets a little bit of a chocker.
Speaker 1I like. It's hard for me to fully understand the like best, like even in the US. I struggle to be like on an ongoing basis what's the best sources of information for an analysis per topic? This is the problem.
Speaker 2Oh sorry, I just chomping with, just like, because we were talking a little bit about this before, which was just like I don't know what, like even when I read an article that's from like, say, the times of India or the Hindustan times or whatever it is, I'm like oh, is this, is this their liberal rag? Is this the? Yeah, because this their Foxy like I'm not totally sure yeah.
Speaker 1So I need to, I need to bone up on that, even it's what I so my kind of attempt is and I should be better about it. I understand, but like what I essentially do is I'll try to look at like three different new sources. So I'll be like what's BBC saying, what's maybe?
Speaker 2like our.
Speaker 1NPR station saying, and then like what's a local Indian source saying, and then start to look at the scatter shot.
Speaker 2You triangulate, you try to triangulate a position, exactly yeah exactly, and it's not always easy.
Speaker 1And then from there I'll kind of like sometimes talk to family or friends and get like their impression and that gives me more of the cultural heartbeat of what's happening, because also a lot of my family I don't agree with politically and so it really is just getting that pulse and then I, you know, can come to my conclusions from there. So how about you?
Speaker 2I go to this random blog that I found, okay, that describes whether or not you know what, what the political views of the, of the, the newspapers are. Oh really, yeah. So, because I always forget. And then I'm like, oh yeah, it says here that's right under, listed under centrist or center left or whatever. You know, the telegraph is very left, you know right. So it'll sort of sort of tell me. But then I'm like, wait, can I trust this block, Right? I don't know. I don't know what are they center left? Are they? Are they extreme, right? I don't know. So I mean, this is, it's a challenging, challenging thing. I just know that. Here's what I know.
Speaker 1Yeah, what do you?
Speaker 2know. Here's what I know.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, I love my dad, I love, I love my dad.
Speaker 1I know that I love the matter. Yes, okay, yeah, the man.
Speaker 2This hits me in the heart chakra because I, you know, my dad is a, is a is a liberal American voter.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2He voted for. He voted for Biden's, I mean. I guess that depends on where you are for on the left spectrum whether you consider that level, but you know he's always voted Democrat.
Speaker 1Yeah, on the binary Right.
Speaker 2Yeah, on the binary, exactly. But you know, is a proud out loud supporter of Modi, right, and you know, when I try to engage him on the topic it's challenging. We get into some big arguments, because I have a tough time with statements like you know well, it should. You know it's time to just get the Muslims out, right. Or you know these brazen statements I'm like that's not you who? Yeah, you, this is not the dad I was raised Like what is going on here and I, yes, and so it's even if, even if there is a world in which Modi has done a lot of good for India, you know in terms of like bringing us up to speed or bringing India up to speed, like technologically and helping with you know corruption, or getting the dirty money out or the black money out.
Speaker 2They called it that he did and like there's you know, suppose you know Santa, santa Sanitation has been good. Like there's good, supposed you know economically good things that he's done. It's hard for me when the rhetoric right.
Speaker 1That's it, yeah.
Speaker 2It's like when the rhetoric is so separatist or like you know. Oh, we're not just saying it, we're not just trying to get our sanitation up to do, we're trying to sanitize the country from Right.
Speaker 1It gets very scary.
Speaker 2That's when you're like that is not OK. Yeah, and I hear it from from a lot of folks. It, you know, maybe not necessarily my dad saying that specific thing, but I hear it from his group. I hear it from the you know a CD. I get the email chain sent over to me.
Speaker 1The what's that notification.
Speaker 2The what's that notifications and you're just like this can't be good, yeah, so that's that's sort of where I, where I, where I land with that. At the same time, you're like well, india is a a linchpin nation. You know, india is the largest democracy in the world and I feel very at this. You know, moldy being at the head of it makes it challenging for me to like want to engage, because I know it's going to put me in direct conflict with the very ones that I love, yeah, and so I, in some ways, I've been trying to almost ignore it and just kind of like, you know, just sort of drown it out and that's. I think what I'm realizing is that's not OK, I can't, I can't, I can't do that.
Engaging in Global Issues
Speaker 1It's so interesting because, like for a while I and we and this is sort of the right, like you said, the confused part. Like you know, I live in the States. I've only really visited India a couple times. So for a while I was kind of like, but where is my presence in this conversation and how needed is that aside from outside? You know perspective. And then the conversations within my family started to shift a little bit to the part where my dad expressed that he was uncomfortable and he's from Pakistan, grew up in England but is originally from Pakistan and was talking about how a lot of the anti Muslim sentiment and the anti Pakistani sentiment is like here's it. And if it's enough for him to hear I was like, oh, that's getting bad. And then it occurred to me one day where I was like, oh, I'm half. Oh wait, when I go to India this could be a problem.
Speaker 2Yeah, what happens there does not stay there either, you know exactly, yeah, where they are, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
Speaker 1No good, I mean like not that, like any rhetoric where it's like we are culturally going to discriminate is ever okay, but I think that I was like I can talk about something outside and then suddenly I was like, wait a second, no, I'm actually directly affected by this. Like I can speak of someone who's like oh, I don't know if I can go to like a wedding with the way that things operate and the way that people are talking, and it would take you all of point two seconds to look up how schools are being affected, how the way that most people in India dress affects their safety on a fundamental basis, and that entire dialogue is the kind of thing where I feel like we saw a lot of world leaders during COVID. We're just like I'll actually find a different problem to focus on, because I'm not going to beat this and I don't want to lose votes. So, yeah, it's a thing that's now become like a pretty big topic in my family in terms of us being like we actually do need to talk about this.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I think the you know, the thing that I'm realizing too is that, like India is even just like on a global scale, right, it is the largest democracy, not the most populous place in the world it's projecting to be. It's one of the only you know, one of the only major democracies that are producing, actually producing more children, like, literally. Like you know, populations are declining elsewhere, not not in India, which means there was an interesting graphic that I just saw, the saw recently, where it shows like the population of Indians into the of the world in 2050. It sort of shows like the ages, like the general ages of the population, meaning that like, so, if you take they called it prime age, which is, like you know, I assume, 2030s, like how young you are, like in terms of workforce, something that India is going to be like at the top, and so in 2050, and you know, us is kind of still up there, china still up there, but like India is going to grow massively there and it's like a huge demographic shift and experts are saying that like, oh, that's going to change global balance of power and right now, india is this really it's politically so interesting because it doesn't take a lot like.
Speaker 2I listened to this whole podcast, which you guys should, should, listen to, by Mohammed Zee Sean. Incredible, but India tends to be neutral on, yeah, on so much, and yet it's the world's democracy. And so if they're not standing up for human rights in, say, yemen, or, you know, in these, you know in these African countries that are in civil war, like if they're going to become this economic global powerhouse, right yeah, like they need to.
Speaker 2We want them and us, I guess, by virtue of that, them, us to be on the right side of the human rights.
Speaker 2Yes Coin right, yeah, that should be, that should be important to us in the diaspora, even in the, you know, in the ABCD, confused diaspora. Like, yes, because, because that is going to represent us. Like, think about, think about the, you know, our Chinese American friends and their relationship to their, to their home country's government. Yeah, it's not a great one for most of them. Like, they're not going back, they're not sitting there, going like, oh, I love you know, I love our communist autocratic state. Right, yeah, but like, but like India, it's like a point of pride, right To be. Like, oh, india is like the largest democracy in the world.
Speaker 2Like we're on the right side you know we're pushed and so we're at this tenuous place, right when it could kind of shift, and so our voices. I think it's just. If there's anything I wanted to come out of this with and to say to other confused, they see is like me is that we can't, we can't sit by and ignore it because, we feel like it's hard for us to engage in it.
Speaker 2I think it's incumbent upon us to engage in it, yes, and so I'm just going to hold myself accountable by saying let's get more engaged in it.
Speaker 1Oh, I love that you know.
Speaker 2I love that you know at least an understanding of it.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm going to throw up Third Eye Shocker for this one, then, like, I think that it is in terms of like that being the basis of like taking your energy and putting it there. Uh, that's, that's very, very true. It's a thing to like because, again, zero point two seconds of Googling the way that judges have immunity in India is a huge element, and if this is the foundation of how things are going to be built.
Understanding Perspectives and Cultural Differences
Speaker 1it's going to make. It's going to make a lot of the ways that we get around having a functioning society in America look like a joke, like, yeah, to put it as easily as possible, so, yeah, yeah, taking a lot more accountability and being present in that conversation. That's how we kind of started, where we both were like, well, we're ABCDs, and now it's like no, we are involved.
Speaker 2Like do you get this a lot? I mean, I'm sure you get this a lot. Like, oh, you just don't. Like yeah, you do, you don't understand. But better you don't just keep your head out, like just I used to you don't get it. You've been born, you've been in America your whole life. You don't. This doesn't. How would you know? You don't come here.
Speaker 1You don't know and it's just a good thing where I'll absorb it. And now I will give the pushback of like right, but imagine if this was you like. Imagine if you were walking home from your university or something like. I'll actually give like that. No, this is logical, like human rights is not like some, like very specific niche, like insight.
Speaker 1And yeah, it's been a thing that I've had to kind of get to and I'm now so comfortable with it with my cousins and aunties and uncles, just like when they I'll give them pushback now Because I get. I get that all the time. I get that all the time.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think, and I think it's important to push back and I think it's important to get informed. I you know I will say this. Listening to that podcast, I learned so much from it. I'm going to throw a couple little just a couple little facts at you.
Speaker 1Yeah, or any with them.
Speaker 2You get you, I'll say true or false, right A true or false, ok. Ok, then I learned from this thing.
Speaker 1OK.
Speaker 2This is kind of I learned some wild things, true or false. More people speak English in the US than India.
Speaker 1I'll say true.
Speaker 2The more people speak English in the US than India.
Speaker 1There's more English speakers in the US than there are English speakers in India, and it's false.
Speaker 2No, there are more, yeah, just in sheer number Now, obviously not percentage Right Close. But more people speak English and India than in the US.
Speaker 1OK, ok, you know the other one of these, yeah.
Speaker 2OK, ok, all right, but we're having fun, we're having fun, we're having fun, this is fun.
Speaker 1Ok, democracy is at stake. Here we go.
Speaker 2There we go. India has a minority population the size of Brazil.
Speaker 1The, nor so the minority population. So like what's that? Like non Hindu, non indigenous Hindu? Yeah, population is the population of Brazil.
Speaker 2Yeah, or smaller is is is the size of the country, brazil size of the population it's true Bing, bing, bing, correct, correct, like that whole Brazil of minority. Brazil of minority. So when we're talking about the minority population, that's being, you know, called out and persecuted or made to feel unwelcome we're talking about an entire nation, you know, brazil size, nation of people, holy smokes.
Speaker 1Right, it starts to give you some perspective?
Speaker 2OK, you want some more.
Speaker 1Let's get some more. Let's get some more.
Speaker 2OK, ok, ok, OK. This is the percent of professors at Indian universities that come from outside of India.
Speaker 1OK, I can give you a few. So this is interesting, yes, this.
Speaker 2I'm going to tell yeah, why don't you guess? Yeah, the percent of professors at Indian universities that come from outside of India, Obviously speaking to the idea of, you know, bringing in new ideas.
Speaker 1Yeah diverse.
Speaker 2You know viewpoints and you know teaching the the. You know who's going to be the next leaders in India. Right, right, what's the professor's perspective?
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm going to say 38 percent.
Speaker 2That might be closer to what the American number is. I'm actually even sure, but it's five percent of professors.
Speaker 1Five. So so professors in Indian universities, 95 percent are are from India from India.
Representation in Indian Democracy
Speaker 2So meaning they don't necessarily get a very global perspective. That's a lot of what you know, mr Mohamed Zee Shan, who was talking about in his, in his, like a political science, he, you know, he went to Columbia University and has all this incredible, vast knowledge about foreign policy in India and it just it speaks to. You know, the, the, the, the. The scale of the issue we're talking about, which is, yeah, if we want India to be a democracy that's going to lead the world, then it needs to be represented. Representative of a heterogeneous yeah, like you know, that works together the minority population, the majority population.
Speaker 2That, like, just you know you don't need to know Society, yeah you don't need to know facts, you know and figures to just sort of understand the morality of that. Right Like that, we want People in the minority population of whatever country that they are living in to be represented in the leadership so that there can be laws that make sure that they are Taking care of and have a voice.
Speaker 1Right, yeah, there's sort of like a double edged fallacy in a way. Right With this, and then I promise you everyone the next segment will be funny. But like, but like, like. It's a thing where, like you on some level want to, when we're talking about other cultures as Americans, that like you want to protect other cultures from imperialism and colonialism, just because that's it, like we go in and we're like everyone now drinks Coca-Cola and you love the American army.
Speaker 1That's like a thing that America does around the world, but the other, and so, when people are just like we were cutting, that we're going to protect what makes India, india right, like we're going to keep India great, the other side of that sword right, the other side of that edge, is anyone who challenges the ideas of the people who define what makes India, india, are a threat.
Speaker 1And so you have people at universities, you have people who are trying to push society forward, to fight for human rights, anything that. Then those people and it's not even questioning Indian values, because there's the entire paradox of, like the Hindu extremists who are like no sexuality and you're like dog, look at your temple, like this is who you're coming after, really, but it is that fact of whoever gets to define Indian identity holds the power to then say we need to punish anyone who questions the power I have, and that's the big issue and that's the scary thing Like you're saying, in 2050, if that's the case, it needs to be an open, breathing, healthy, progressing society, versus one that's holding on to this sentiment, and anyone who says you're disagreeing with this ambiguous sentiment, we're going to punish you with physical violence, with oppression, that you can't do that, and so that's why those numbers are a little scary to me.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. Well, ok, speaking of the next segment do we feel like we've? Exhausted this Like have we talked out this confusion enough? I mean, probably not. This probably just scrapes the surface in some ways.
Speaker 1I like the. I like the, the landing ground of. Let's get involved in the conversation. Yeah, let's take up that space. Let's get there and if you are like I know, but like I'm not, you know, like I don't live in Kolkata or something like that, no, get involved. Read as much news as you can, absorb as much as you can. I'm going to be dedicated to it. I'm going to be talking to my family. I need to visit more. Like it is something that's going to affect all of us. I'm going to be in 2050, I hope.
Speaker 2I'll say this about the Indian diaspora right, we're the largest diaspora in the world, we're large, and Indians in the diaspora become leaders of the free world. This is true, right, like, yeah, you know, we got Kamala auntie. Yeah right, we're running. Yeah, we're running London right now. I think New Zealand right and we got some. We got some folks in the upper echelons in New Zealand.
Speaker 1I mean like that's in Canada doing stuff, yeah, but it's true.
Speaker 2But it's true and it's true, and that just means it gives, you know, india incentive to stand up for democracies, because then they can, yes, in treat more easily with democratic nations, and so it's important for us to care about the democratic health of the world.
Speaker 1That's all I'll say. That's it.
Speaker 2That's all, that's all I've under, that's all I've been understanding in my really basic research. But all right, listen, but Omar.
Speaker 1Yes, Omar.
Speaker 2What if we were politicians?
Speaker 1What if we were politicians?
Speaker 2That would be bad for the world.
Speaker 1It would be terrible for the world that would be absolutely terrible for the world.
Speaker 2It's because let's find out, because we're about to have our ABCD prime minister debate.
Speaker 3This is ABCD span.
Speaker 1Seven thousand dollars, folks, that's how much we've been coming in true Seven thousand seven.
Speaker 2Yeah, we let we like. Took a loan out on the Patreon. Yeah he's brought to the bank Like here's how many patrons we have and now we have to pay it back for the next, like 40 years.
Speaker 1But they own the Patreon. The bank owns the Patreon.
Speaker 2Oh man, that's amazing. All right, we're here, ABCD. Yes, here we are.
Speaker 3So, for the debate twenty twenty three prime minister election. Omar, you are, of course the incumbent current prime minister of.
Speaker 1ABCD, as decided in the previous episode, sandy you are here to challenge Omar and his device in politics.
Speaker 3So we're going to give you my opponent. We're going to give you one minute. Who's your opponent?
Speaker 2Sandy, and I said well, let's be simple, let's be simple.
Speaker 3So we're going to do it one minute time. I know your responses these times. So you got to keep it succinct, you got to keep it, keep it tight, the big style I got it.
Speaker 2I just want to be clear. I was saying boot like you're my boo man. I was like this is like it was like a term of endearment.
Speaker 1It's already flip flopping, already flip flopping. So we're going to get, we're going to get, like an, we're going to get a thing to argue.
Speaker 3Yeah, so I'm going to present the topic to you, yeah, omar, as the prime minister, who currently studying policy, will define and defend your policy in some deep you will. You'll then retort with your stance on the issue, probably, probably opposite, and otherwise, if you all agree, why should they elect in the first place?
Speaker 2OK, so I have to take the opposite.
Speaker 3You have to take the opposite, I'm just saying like you're not going to get elected if you just agree with it.
Speaker 1I don't react, so like you know, if I make a good point. Let me run.
Speaker 2I'm just going to agree the whole time.
Speaker 3Yeah, one minute, just congratulate him, I just want to be.
Speaker 2It's going to be clear to the listeners at home, and listeners live right now.
Speaker 1Yeah it's.
Speaker 2I mean, I think it will become fairly self-evident, but we have not been shown these categories.
Speaker 1We have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 2No, he was coming up so I'm sure I'm being occupied, dave.
Speaker 1Chappelle again. I swear to God.
Speaker 2All right, all right, let's go.
Speaker 3First topic yeah Rocks have become a very divisive thing on our show and in our culture today. No going forward. Do we excommunicate those who bear crocs or we make crocs mandatory?
Speaker 1Folks, hi, how's it going? Your prime minister again. It's so good to see you Listen. You get up in the morning and you have so many decisions to make. What you're gonna have for breakfast? Well, podcast you're gonna put on, probably ABCD. That's what I listen to every morning. You know what decision I don't want to make? What am I gonna wear on my feet on my way out? Jouples, converse, a mixture of converse, jouples those don't exist. Oh no, I have a headache. Folks, let me make this decision easy. It's crocs 24-7. Only crocs. Don't worry about the tough stuff. That's what the government's for. So me, as prime minister, I'll take care of the difficult decisions so you can take the rest of your time hanging out with your family or avoiding them. Either way, you're wearing crocs. Vote for me. The rest of the time I donate to Sandeep.
Speaker 2Wow, how generous for someone who's trying to autocratically command what type of footwear you adorn yourself every day. I mean again, once again, the Najam administration from the very top. You're hearing it, people. He wants to take away your choice in shoe. Now are crocs awesome? I'm a dad, of course they're awesome. I love my crocs. They're incredible. All these croc haters, get over it, just get over it. It's weak. But to demand that everyone should be wearing crocs at all times and to give, to take the choice away from the people in the free market, this is an outrage. This is an absolute outrage. You know that boo that was so endearing earlier has turned into real booze. I can't believe that you'd want to force people to wear the polka dotted whole shoes at all times. This is disgusting, this is an overreach and this is just indicative of what a life under that would continue under a Najam administration would be like.
Speaker 3I'm sorry. I'm sorry, mr Bariq. Mr Bariq, I'm sorry, that's your time, that's your time.
Speaker 2I have 10 more things to say. I wasn't just repeating myself.
Speaker 1Is that so we each get one, or is there a chance I could kind of pop in and just give a little?
Speaker 2He gets a rebuttal yeah.
Speaker 3But if that's it, if that's all we got, that's all we got the plan here is you're going to get your one minute, a piece each time, omar? You have a large advantage being able to set your policy right off the bat. So giving you the opportunity to also retort is just a bit too much for the ruling party. Perhaps you can set that as a new law going forward if you maintain the office.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I could stay in power. Okay, I'll let the people decide. I'll let the people decide All right.
Speaker 3Next topic up here Family members who are on extreme opposite sides of the political spectrum. From you, do they get seconds for dessert?
Speaker 2Is this? Who's this? Go to you.
Speaker 3Yes, there's always the Omar to start with. This is right now.
Speaker 1Got it Okay. Folks you have so much to worry about these days. You get up in the morning You're like what kind of podcast I listen to? I know for me it's ABCD. But one thing you shouldn't have to worry about is how to tell your family that they need to reflect on their political viewpoints and how they describe them and decide them, which is why I'm looking to put out a new law, a law that says folks who have an extreme political reaction to you, they don't get seconds in dessert. Now they can have the first. That's quite all right, but second, that's going to take some harmonious dialogue that they will be the ones to initiate. It's an odd way to go about this, but I'm looking to have a society that works together and, hopefully, eats seconds together. The rest of my time is donated, Sorry.
Speaker 3I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So, Mr Prime Minister, you're out of time.
Speaker 2I'm not even sure what you're saying. Are you saying you're pro giving them seconds?
Speaker 1If they change their ways.
Speaker 2Wow, once again, the regulation of free speech and free consumption of delicious goods is is is large and in charge. He's all about regulating everything. This is again, what disgusting behavior by by. Listen, if it's up to me, the only way, the only way we're going to work together is if and and to get into those messy parts of the, the, those, those sticky areas that we don't want to talk about is if we're sharing some glob jamun. Obviously, let's get. Let's get through the sticky parts by smothering sticky glob jamun into each other's mouths.
Speaker 2Yes, this is this is how the world is going to come together, and, and, and and. Stick like Russ Malaya at the roof of your mouth is if we share desserts, and, and, and our differences.
Speaker 1My goodness.
Speaker 3My appetite is gone.
Speaker 1I know rebutable, my appetite is gone.
Speaker 2No ad hominem attack by the Nijam administration.
Speaker 3Next up here. So, as part of the cultural reeducation of our community, we're going to be setting a movie as a mandatory watch. Okay, will that movie be Barbie or Up and Hymer, and why?
Speaker 1Folks, I love having a good time as much as you truly, I do. I wake up in the morning. I listen to ABC every single morning. But listen, folks.
Speaker 3Sometimes sometimes it's not a good time, like, for example, our history.
Speaker 1We've done things as a country that we need to really take some some time and reflect on and and, hey, I wish I could sit everybody down and enjoy a flick feature in the talented Ryan Gosling, but I do think it's, it's it's. We need to talk about warfare, what that does to people and how affects other countries and how we got there. So so, please, please, watch Barbie. I'm not going to make you do it, but please watch Barbie. But we are going to sit down as a nation and we are going to watch Up and Hymer all five miles of film of it and we're going to have a serious discussion. Yeah, the rest of my time goes to Sandy.
Speaker 3You have no time remaining on, mr Minister, but thank you, that's very.
Speaker 1I said what I said, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, all right, mr Brick, the floor is yours.
Speaker 2The, the clearly anti women stance.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 2Of Mr Nijam's fascist regime is just full born in front of us. Can you believe this? Of course you know.
Speaker 2Directed by Greta Gerwig, that's a threat to the Nijam administration Clearly Wow. So at our table we are, we are. We are watching Barbie, we are enjoying this, this clever take on on a beloved, if problematic, old toy, that that that so many grew up with. And the reframe, the brilliant reframing that Greta Gerwig is going to do, is the type of reframing we need to think about for our country. We need a reframe out of this oppressive up and Hymer is disgusting authoritarian boots on our neck administration. I have so many more adjectives to read though I have seven more adjectives I have to break.
Speaker 3Did somebody grab the mic Please?
Speaker 2Fine, fine, fine. I rest my case. We're watching Barbie.
Speaker 1I'm sorry. One second Ring, ring, ring, hold on. Hello, miss Emily Blunt. Oh yeah, he's just ignoring the whole fact that you're in this movie. Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2I'm a credited ace on the bill.
Speaker 3I think they would rubber down a junior. We have to make sure that Matt.
Speaker 2Damon was in.
Speaker 1We have to make after after interstellar, we had to make sure we had a surprise, matt Damon.
Speaker 3Yeah, all right. Next up, the legislature has nailed down our new national theme song to two possible options. Okay, you've got your line of veto power to decide which of these bounces are new national thing going forward. Will it be my East services party in the USA or rebel blacks Friday, and why?
Speaker 1Now, folks, it's important to look forward to something. You know me, I wake up every morning. I look forward to listening to ABCD podcast.
Speaker 1The petition is the key, it's important to have direction and I want us to have direction, which is why I'm saying Rebecca Black's Friday is the direction we're gonna go in. It's Friday, it's Friday, no matter what day it is. It's good news that Friday's coming down the road. Now, maybe it's a Monday hey Friday's coming. Maybe it's Tuesday hey Friday's coming. Wednesday, thursday Friday's coming, it's Friday. Well, guess what? The song's right? It is Friday, saturday. Hey, friday was yesterday Sunday. That's not too bad, but don't worry, friday will come down the road, so I'm gonna go Friday. It gives us something to unify and to celebrate. And also I'd like to say that Miley Cyrus says that she lands at LAX and is able to see the Hollywood sun while she's turning right onto four or five or something like that. That's not how you get around LAX. Four or five don't work like that. That's so silly. I relinquish the rest of my time.
Speaker 3Thank you as, again, you have no time remaining, mr Prime Minister, but thank you for taking to your allotted time Mr Parikh the floor is yours.
Speaker 2Which song has USA in it over and over again? Which song is more patriotic? I think the answer is obvious. I mean my tummy's turning every time I hear Mr Najam speak of his croc edict and his forced shodding of the American people. I'm feeling kind of homesick of a world where we aren't forced to consume Oppenheimer, you know, like that Stanley Kubrick movie that I can't remember right now with our eyes peeled open, barry Lyndon.
Speaker 2There's too much pressure and I'm nervous of a world in which, you know, we don't have the rights to watch a female film. You know, this is terrible and the Jay-Z song was on, and the Jay-Z song was on Mr Parikh, if you could please respond. I put my hands up.
Speaker 3You know what you're going to do and then play my song, the butterflies fly away, I'm nodding my head like yeah. I'm moving my lips like yeah.
Speaker 2The party in the USA. It's a party in the USA.
Speaker 1Where those butterflies gonna go. Where those butterflies gonna go, you making a fly away.
Speaker 3They just settled Interesting, interesting, interesting, all right, All right, this is the final topic we have here.
Speaker 2This word salad, I've seen a presidential debate.
Speaker 3I know how these work. The last and not least, this is probably the most divisive topic we have here.
Speaker 1Oh no.
Speaker 3May and or shall would Chuck Chuck would, and if so, how much would may or shall they chuck, If said, would chuck, can chuck would?
Speaker 1Now I'm of the firm belief that that you could do anything you want if you put your heart to it. Now you know, every morning I wake up it's not easy, it's a struggle. Sometimes I get that, I get up. Sometimes it takes me a couple minutes to get my ABCD podcast going every single morning. But let me tell you what A woodchuck can chuck as much wood as you want.
Speaker 1Now I know I'll put a lot of regulations in place. That scares some folks, but I'm here just to make the hard decisions, so you don't have to. I'm here to answer that call at 2 am, so you don't have to. I'm here to do the things that night that are quite frankly illegal for a government to do. So you don't have to or know about it. And yeah, we'll profit from those decisions. You won't. You don't have to. I think a woodchuck chuck. A woodchuck chuck as much as a woodchuck wants. Because hell, this is America and it ain't just a party in the USA, it's a family in the USA. Thank you very much. I relinquished the two seconds I had.
Speaker 3All right, mr Parikh Laura Shores.
Speaker 2I don't think the question is how much would a woodchuck chuck? If a woodchuck could chuck wood? The question is literally a woodchuck.
Speaker 2Can a woodchuck chuck wood in this climate, with no health care? Yeah, you know. You know, with the minimum wage stagnating, in a world where we're dealing with inflation, the woodchuck can't even support its woodchuck family right now. It's got a hole. It's got to be chucking wood. It's got to be a greeter at Walmart. It's got to be waiting tables. It's got to be doing three jobs at the same time just to make a living in a nijam led world. It's time, if the woodchucks us, all woodchucks out there, we got to look each other in the eye. We got to stop chucking wood for the man and the man is nijam, it's in his name and and all letters of man are in his name. And he's the man and he's holding us down and we're not going to be able to chuck. We're not chucking wood for you anymore. We're going on strike. The woodchucks are going on strike.
Election, Arjun Mall, and MLB Draft Discussion
Speaker 3So that concludes our topics. Wow, you started the election in which, yet at this time, I like that you really embraced the autocracy.
Speaker 2You were like, yeah, I regulate, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. Yeah, I'm going to be the one that profits. I think I have to. I respect that.
Speaker 1I have to. I don't want you to have to worry about that.
Speaker 2You know I, yeah it's so much harder to do your taxes when you have too much.
Speaker 1Let us have all your information but still not process your taxes for you.
Speaker 2Wow, everyone's going for Omar and Jom. I can't believe you guys are just all anti labor. This is really something. But listen to that At a time.
Speaker 1He's watching. He's over your shoulder in the voting booth, whispering in your ear like the Elzebub himself. Don't let him do that. I want you to vote with your heart. I want you to vote with your heart, ok.
Speaker 2You got to do that for the four right now. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1Whether you're sitting in the front seat, whether you're sitting in the back seat, it's Friday. It's Friday Going to get down. It's Friday.
Speaker 2I'll tell you, it'll be a single party in the USA If Omar and Jom is able to keep up his voter suppression tactics fewer choices you got to make.
Speaker 1Now you can focus on your family. You can focus on which flavor Doritos you kids want. I have based this entire character off of one ad. That was the Scottish political ad, where it's like you clearly have too much to worry about. Let us tell you how to vote.
Speaker 2Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Oh God, yeah, clearly, I think the thing I learned is that both of us would be terrible politicians.
Speaker 1That's, that's for sure. Yep, yeah, and by that we'd be great.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I mean, we certainly have the gift of just talking until someone tells us to stop.
Speaker 1Yeah, which is like I feel like kind of, all you need you, me and Ted Cruz, all we need is just like one one outdated pop culture reference and that really would solidify to us is like a working senator.
Speaker 2Well, you know, Mr.
Speaker 1Burns.
Speaker 2one Tom said All right, where's the vote at? What are we doing here?
Speaker 3It's currently at five to six.
Speaker 2We're about time All right, so we'll let it go, we're going to let it run, we'll let it run. While we move to Desi of the week.
Speaker 1Yes, oh, I'm so excited about this. This week, our day to the week is totally not political. We are going over to some beautiful summertime sports. Are you ready for this, sandy?
Speaker 2Oh, I'm ready, I know you're a fan, I'm so excited we are talking about Arjun the mall. Yes.
Speaker 1Yes, yes, yes. The Toronto Blue Jays selected high school shortstop Arjun Namal with the number 20 pick in this year's MLB amateur draft. Arjun the mall Arjun the mall just an incredible, incredible, incredible player at age 17. They're one of the youngest players in this year's class and the Blue Jays are betting that he'll mature into an even more powerful player. The Blue Jays amateur scouting director, shane Farrell, said the team favored the shortstop out of Strawberry Crest High School in Dover, florida, because his tool package combined with the age and overall and overall upside.
Speaker 2And he makes a mean biryani I think the team needs it.
Speaker 1But an absolute powerhouse of an athlete.
Speaker 2How cool is this. Yes, we have an Indian dude voted, or sorry, drafted, in the first round of the freaking MLB draft.
Speaker 1But why?
Speaker 2so cool. I mean not in, certainly never. I don't think ever happened. When I was younger I would have flipped out like I was the kid. I don't know if you you identify with it. I'm a huge baseball fan.
Speaker 2I was the kid that laid out all my baseball cards, memorized the stats, would just like sit there all day as if it was my office, like sorting my baseball cards. Like you moneyball I, I moneyballed. I just I just loved immersing myself in baseball. So like if I had, you know, an Arjun Namal a card, yeah, I would be like I would. I would be freaking. I'm going to get, I'm definitely going to get his card. I haven't got a baseball card in so long that I'm getting this dude's baseball card come hell or high water, I hope. You know you never know. With draft picks, especially in the MLB, it's very, you know, no one's guaranteed anything because he's the kid 17. But this is really sweet, fucking cool for me. You know, for me personally, and I know that's why he did. It was for me, but this is, I'm just loving it, he. So I'll give you some more stats. He was ranked number eight on the athletics top 10, top 100 prospects.
Speaker 2OK that's huge. And let's see his high school coach not biased at all said I don't think I've ever seen anybody hit with the same amount of power that Arjun is with. Like I love that he's a power hitter too. Like he's not like you know, and bless each year, each year, his heart, you know. But like yeah, I would have guessed if the first Indian dude to be like yeah, drafted, would have been like a slap hitter. Like that would have been my like a slap hitting. Like amazing shortstop who like barely hits 250. No, the student hits for power and average like that is so fucking cool we're used to like.
Speaker 1We're used to like like my parents would be like did you hear about the like the Indian athlete? I'm like oh, which one the mascot Like. So that's where we.
Speaker 2That's the realm we plan.
Speaker 1This is amazing. This is massive. I'm so excited for this entire career.
Speaker 2I'm bummed he's on the blue jays because I'm obviously a red sex fan, but look, it is just big he's. He's the 20th pick which, at slot value, is 3.7 million 5 million bucks.
Speaker 1So holy smokes.
Speaker 2I'm not just saying this that he invests and becomes a patreon on our show at the highest one million dollar tier.
Speaker 1Yeah, but you wouldn't miss it. You wouldn't miss it.
Speaker 2Where I just like. Any time you text me, I show up with whatever food you, you, you home cooked food you want. That's. That's what the one million dollar tier is Just become your and also the cameo servant. Fucking prime ministers, man, they just sit back and do whatever. Yeah, but very cool, we're super stoked. Good time for for it, for you know, indian Americans. And sports, yes, right now there's also the major league cricket.
Speaker 1It's just starting up this year, so you know, this is cool, this is wild.
Speaker 2By the way, we might talk about this more and more in depth later, but there is an LA major league cricket team called I feel like it's the coolest name ever the night riders. The night riders.
Speaker 1That's perfect. That's perfect.
Speaker 2And David Hasselhoff, I believe, is the, the, the mascot.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2He, just him, he just comes out and waves a little bit. He does. He does like seven back hand springs and just bounce.
Speaker 1Yeah, I did leave and no one, actually no one knows who he is, because it's a Dacey audience that doesn't get the reference.
Speaker 2Well, what they know is the Pajabi MC song that kind of has the night riders.
Speaker 3Yeah, you're right, and they're like.
Speaker 1OK, yes, this is good, all right.
Speaker 2I think the captain of the team is also an Indian. I mean, maybe that's not surprising, but the captain of the team is an Indian.
Speaker 1But this is so cool. There's like I am getting Congratulations, man yeah congratulations, this is huge. We're a little on this, so excited.
Speaker 2Has the poll yet when are we at?
Speaker 3The poll. The polls are in. Who's who is it? I don't think you're going to be happy with this.
Speaker 2I can look, it's still 50, 50 exact tie which.
Speaker 3I believe, according to our bylaws, in the event of an exact tie, the incumbent loses their position and the challenger takes over.
Speaker 2I love that law, Dude. I love that law we elect Sunday.
Speaker 3Bariq, congratulations on winning this election. So yeah, yep, yep, that's a real no but the people voted in class in classic form without getting a majority vote. You have been elected prime minister. I think it's very fitting.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know exactly. Tie goes to change. You know that's what we do here. We got it.
Speaker 1We got it, just change the laundry and you're out how we won't forget this.
Speaker 2My future.
Speaker 1We'll forget that. We'll rise again.
Speaker 2We won't come out as we have the woodchuck contingent on our side. We're going to know your ankles and you keep that you know that ankles were beat.
Speaker 1Imagine we're beavers with an alarm clock of run water. We don't sleep.
Speaker 2Yeah, go watch your warm movies. Oh, we will, oh, we will, oh, we will.
Speaker 3It's going to be seven hours long and her ears won't be able to register noise after it. But we will.
Speaker 1Yeah, we will.
Podcast Updates and Sponsor Announcement
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Speaker 1This shows produced by Diego, and now the show is technical director and sound designer self-neval. The show's executive producers are Sandy Parikh and Anansha. This is edited by Sean Mayer, Music by Herschel Sosodia, Javier Singh and Malik Saveri. This has been an effing funny production. And quick shout out to our friend Monroe, who left a party to tune in. I just wanted to shout that out on behalf of our Monroe.
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