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The Rundown
Ever wondered how Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson evolved from a relatable action star to the larger-than-life icon we know today? This week on We Recommend, we break down his early career with a spotlight on "The Rundown," an action-packed film full of humor, thrills, and unforgettable moments. We'll share our personal high school memories of meeting The Rock's character, Beck, and how his comedic chemistry with Seann William Scott set the tone for one of the most entertaining duos in action cinema. Plus, you'll hear amusing comparisons to "MacGruber" and the signature rolling-down-hill scenes by director Peter Berg.
We move on to dissect where "The Rundown" stands among classic action films like "Point Break" and "Snatch." Is it the worst movie we've reviewed? Not even close! We'll highlight some of its unique elements, like the XFL-themed intro and that iconic thunder and lightning joke that still gets us laughing. And you won’t want to miss our fun behind-the-scenes tidbits This chapter is a nostalgic trip filled with personal anecdotes and a lot of laughter.
Finally, get ready for some quirky facts about "The Rundown," from Christopher Walken's unexpected Oompa Loompa moment to the film's multiple title changes. We recount the tense yet humorous story of an Amazon shoot gone wrong and discuss the significance of Arnold Schwarzenegger's cameo. As always, we end on a high note, previewing next week's episode on "War of the Worlds" and inviting our listeners to send in fan mail. It's an episode packed with entertainment and insights you won't want to miss!
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Ever wondered how Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson evolved from a relatable action star to the larger-than-life icon we know today? This week on We Recommend, we break down his early career with a spotlight on "The Rundown," an action-packed film full of humor, thrills, and unforgettable moments. We'll share our personal high school memories of meeting The Rock's character, Beck, and how his comedic chemistry with Seann William Scott set the tone for one of the most entertaining duos in action cinema. Plus, you'll hear amusing comparisons to "MacGruber" and the signature rolling-down-hill scenes by director Peter Berg.
We move on to dissect where "The Rundown" stands among classic action films like "Point Break" and "Snatch." Is it the worst movie we've reviewed? Not even close! We'll highlight some of its unique elements, like the XFL-themed intro and that iconic thunder and lightning joke that still gets us laughing. And you won’t want to miss our fun behind-the-scenes tidbits This chapter is a nostalgic trip filled with personal anecdotes and a lot of laughter.
Finally, get ready for some quirky facts about "The Rundown," from Christopher Walken's unexpected Oompa Loompa moment to the film's multiple title changes. We recount the tense yet humorous story of an Amazon shoot gone wrong and discuss the significance of Arnold Schwarzenegger's cameo. As always, we end on a high note, previewing next week's episode on "War of the Worlds" and inviting our listeners to send in fan mail. It's an episode packed with entertainment and insights you won't want to miss!
We would love to hear from you! Send us an email and maybe it will be read on the podcast! werecommendmailbag@gmail.com
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Music produced by Joey Prosser. X @mrjoeyprosser
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse and I'm Jason. When I'm a guest in another man's house, I don't reach into his refrigerator without asking permission, because this week we recommend the Rundown.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think if the Rock is in your kitchen, not only can you smell what the Rock is cooking, but he is going to get in your fridge. Yeah, he's going to.
Speaker 1:I don't think he needs to rush it.
Speaker 2:I mean the Rock walks in my house uninvited doors for some reason unlocked. He opens it up. I'm like, okay, yes, sir, he automatically has permission, I think because everything that he does becomes property of the people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, his eyebrow he's the people's champ, he's the people's leader and, honestly, he keeps like our grid system online.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he is the most electrifying man sports entertainment. It's just his workout routine. Just powers the entire country I.
Speaker 1:Something I do want to know is do you so? You've you've seen a lot of rock movies like dwayne johnson movies? I've seen several. Haven't seen them all. So this is like his second or third, I think. He shows up in one of the mummies and then he does the Scorpion King and then he's got this and then he continues and then becomes a behemoth of a man.
Speaker 1:So, I'm wondering do you prefer this type of rock or do you prefer the Dwayne Johnson version, Like, do you like him better when he's smaller and he's less? I did notice he was a tad bit smaller. He's a lot bit smaller compared to now. I guess I know he was still in wrestling shape during this point because he was still a wrestler, oh 2003.
Speaker 2:No, I guess I don't really. I didn't really have a preference, I don't. I don't think they're that much different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's just a little smaller yeah, it's funny because whenever, like, one of the best parts of this movie is whenever he tackles a pillar of the house. Because at first when I was watching this, I was like, oh, he's just kind of playing like a slightly elevated, like human, in this one where he can just do kind of amazing typical action movie things. Yeah. And then, and because I was thinking like, oh, fast and furious, furious seven, where he rips his like ah, my arm's not broken anymore, rips the cast just by flexing yes, and then then that moment shows up I'm like, oh wait, no, he's like, ah, my arm's not broken anymore, rips a cast just by flexing yes. And then that moment shows up and I'm like, oh wait, no, he's always doing this.
Speaker 1:I kind of like him better when he's smaller and he seems like a real human. He seems a little bit flawed, like now. He can't do anything, he can't just be like, oh yeah, I just like go to clubs or whatever, because he's a monster. They'd have to resize the door for him to get in, I don't know it's. It was kind of nice and refreshing to see him not be like a larger than life character in a movie. He was still pretty huge. He's still huge.
Speaker 2:He's still huge, but this is like oh, he couldn't eat sean williams scott, he could try but oh and sean williams was great, and this reminds me a lot of the he's stifler with a beard in this. Yes, yes, um in indiana jones it's the same. It reminds me of the character of it's always sunny in philadelphia, where he was the cousin, the gay cousin oh, yeah, yeah, they were both really bad at karate but like the gang thinks he's way cooler than mac, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he's like, oh, watch this, I'm going to do this stunt. He just like immediately wrecks and dies. So good Spoilers for that. Another thing I want you to, I want to talk to you about, is so in MacGruber, right, this, he, macgruber, is an insane guy action star who can do whatever. He doesn't use guns until the end of the movie where he decides to use guns. And then in this movie there's also an insane distraction.
Speaker 2:This movie is MacGruber. We just did the same movie back to back.
Speaker 1:It's literally MacGruber. Which one came out first, so Rundown came out first. So it's definitely MacGruber's making fun of this type of movie. But I was like no way Did we just do the same movie back to back, because I haven't seen the Rundown in forever and I just think when I was watching I was like oh, I bet they pulled from that one because it was so fresh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just, it's funny that we did a like two versions of the same movie where you have the rundowns kind of taking itself a little more serious. It's still obviously goofy and it's kind of portraying old action movies from the 80s and 90s. And then the one we just did, macgruber, is way over the top and insane. And so there's also one other thing you remember can't remember what movie it was I think it was on the tommy boy episode. We're talking about lone survivor where they roll down a giant hill.
Speaker 1:oh, and that happens in this movie same director oh, really did this movie and lone survivor? I'm just thinking did p? Did Peter Berg get the job on Lone Survivor? Because he constantly has people rolling down heels for a really long time? I think so. I, immediately in the middle of this, I was like Natalie he does this twice in his filmography. How insane is that. And it keeps going and going, and going, and it it's always funny, though at least in this movie.
Speaker 1:It's, uh like, obviously a joke. And in lone survivor it's supposed to be taken serious but it takes, it lasts. I think it lasts longer than this one and it's like wait, is this a joke movie all of a sudden in one survivor? I think it's funny. But peter burke, he, he probably has done a lot of movies I don't know how many of you have seen, but do you know anything about Peter Burke? He did.
Speaker 2:Now I know that he directed this movie and Lone Survivor yeah, he did.
Speaker 1:He did a lot of movies with Mark Wahlberg, but he did the Battleship movie, which is not the worst movie ever, but it's also not good. He did hancock with will smith. Oh yeah, deep water. Then he does everything with. After hancock and battleship, it's pretty much everything is with mark walberg lone survivor, deep water, horizon, patriots day, mile 22, spencer, confidential it's like hey, mark, well, I got an idea.
Speaker 2:What if I push you down a mountain? Right, I've done it before. It works pretty well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then there's also two movies that actually kind of stand out, that are pretty darn good the Kingdom and the Friday Night Lights movie. Oh cool, dude Gracie, what are you doing over there to Jason? She wants to get up.
Speaker 2:She wants down, yeah, you want down. Just let her down, just let her do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want down. Just let her down. Just let her do it. She's such a spaz, all right Spaz. I'm probably going to leave this in Gracie's our little dog. I usually cut all this stuff out, but I just feel like y'all probably want to hear stuff with our dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's super cute. She's a little chihuahua.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Long hair chihuahua? No, none of those.
Speaker 1:She's fluffy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she is.
Speaker 1:She's a cute little girl, so I want you to do your best. Christopher Walken impression. Oh man, we're just going to try. We're going to be really bad at it, okay.
Speaker 2:Man.
Speaker 1:Just say yeah, give me something to say. Yeah, do they had my tooth, I want it back.
Speaker 2:They had my tooth and I want it back. What?
Speaker 1:You did the Rock. I don't know. You did Rocky. I don't know. They had my tooth. Oh yeah, I want it back. Is that any good?
Speaker 2:That was better. I feel like it was pretty good, all right. I have my two.
Speaker 1:You go into this like weird. You become the rock you become rocky when you do it. Oh man, I really want to say the rock. When I say rocky, you become the rocky. So do you think this is the worst movie we've done on the podcast? No, you don't. What do you think is worse? Then? If you say point break, I would jump over.
Speaker 2:I thought this was better than point break, but no, the really old one from the 80s we did. I don't like that one too much Red.
Speaker 1:Dawn.
Speaker 2:No, the other one when he was the sound technician guy Blowout, blowout. But what was worse? Than this we have Wow.
Speaker 1:Somebody just got kicked off the podcast. I won't point fingers wild, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, let's get into some facts.
Speaker 1:They're also very different since I'm hurting at my core right now. I'm just kidding, no, this is like. I will say, like when I watched. When I started this movie I was like I was nervous because I haven't seen the Rundown since I was in high school, but when I was in high school I saw it a billion times. It was always on TV. And then it starts. And it starts off with him going to the nightclub, but it starts with the crappy graphics of the XFL players, which I think is wild, that the whole intro is nothing but an XFL commercial.
Speaker 1:Well, it was around the same time and Rock's part of the WWE and I'm sure to be in it they probably had some sort of.
Speaker 2:You have to mention all this XFL stuff. Yeah, like a promotion, yeah.
Speaker 1:Which I love, the XFL when it came out.
Speaker 2:But he was even like I don't like football or I don't get into football. Then he keeps going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he's like, oh, they have a chance to run it back again.
Speaker 2:I was like okay, which I think is very funny, uh. So I don't really have that many facts, but I will say the few that I have. Here's a fact, uh, that I learned from this movie if you have two of something, you're better at doing anything with those two things. Then if you only had one, yeah or whips.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you have a little bit of thunder, if you have a little lightning. Yes, I'm not gonna lie, the action in this movie is great it's awesome. At first I was a little worried during the nightclub scene because it would not stop cutting. I was like dude, stop cutting and then they have no.
Speaker 2:These people like why do they spend so much time talking about these people when they have nothing to do with any of the rest of the movie at all?
Speaker 1:well is this supposed to show? It was just like hey, here's what the rock can do. He can literally beat up an entire offensive line of just man yeah, I love like we're supposed to take that serious.
Speaker 2:I'm like, okay, come on guys the xfl is the rejects of the nfl.
Speaker 1:Sorry if you are part of the xfl right now and you're listening to this also. Uh, leave us give. Send us some mail if you are. I want to know all about it and have you met the rock? So, according to sean williams scott, the thunder and lightning bit was just a joke but was so entertaining they kept it in the film whenever I was younger and like I used to do this all the time, like me and my friends did, joe dirt come out after this, because he kind of did that with his backup mic.
Speaker 2:Oh, he did. He's like, you got my mic and my backup mic right here, yeah.
Speaker 1:Joe Dirt was first.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:A bunch of frauds in this movie. Fuck yeah, Joe. So this was kind of the wildest thing that I learned from the film. According to director commentary on the DVD, Christopher Walken had never seen Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
Speaker 2:That's why he made that lewd comment about Oompa Loompas.
Speaker 1:But and was therefore reluctant to use the phrase Oompa Loompas in his final scene. Yeah, director Peter Berg provided Walken with a copy of the movie and after watching, it.
Speaker 2:Walken decided to use the phrase what I don't know what makes it worse I know I was was like what are you talking?
Speaker 1:about. Why would you want to say it after that? Um so, two more, just two more facts, then we'll hop into the movie. So the film's original title was heldorado. Oh well, it was then changed it was then changed to welcome to the jungle, before being changed again to the rund God, although it was released in several countries, including the United Kingdom, as Welcome to the Jungle. Dwayne later starred in the unrelated Jumanji Welcome to the Jungle. I feel like that happens a lot.
Speaker 2:And he was the Jungle Boat Cruise.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Guy Rock loves the jungle man. He fucking loves the jungle. He belongs there, I think, because he beats everybody up.
Speaker 1:He's like the king of the jungle.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to get to some of these parts, because where this movie sometimes fails in certain situations, it excels in some scenes. So, according to director Peter Berg, they were scouting a location in the Amazon forest of Brazil when they were held up at gunpoint by three locals and robbed of all cash, computers and other valuables. After that the shoot location was changed to Hawaii, nice, at gunpoint by three locals and robbed of all cash, computers and other valuables. After that the shoot location was changed to hawaii, nice, unless it was a joke that they said, because it does say, probably a joke, though. So I don't know. It's weird. A lot of the uh facts seem to come from the commentary, and then I was just reading large sections of the director's commentary, since I didn't have the movie and I cannot tell if anything they say in the director's commentary, since I didn't have the movie and I cannot tell if anything they say in the director's commentary is true or serious at all because like they constantly seem like they're just kind of ribbing each other.
Speaker 1:Cause Peter Berg and Dwayne Johnson. I'm like I don't know if I can say any of these, cause I don't know if any of it's true, cause usually I try to go to like interviews and commentary and I could not find any interviews. Are you calling dwayne johnson a liar? No, I just think he's a very funny person especially back in these days he was super funny.
Speaker 1:Now all he does is just kind of, uh, promote energy drinks, and really yeah, because he has his own energy drink, zoa zoa energy I've never heard of it, me neither. Well, I have heard of it.
Speaker 2:Makes you big and strong and Probably does, probably has like 500 grams of protein in one drink.
Speaker 1:One sip Power shits. The serving is like half an ounce. That's the size. But you know what? Rewatching this, you know there are some parts where I was like this is going to be the worst movie we've done. Some parts where I was like this is amazing, especially rope fighting, love that. Yeah, I thought it was a fun like summer movie yeah it's a good mix of being like funny when it's bad and fun when it's really good, and the action and the stunt work is just amazing.
Speaker 1:And all the actors, actors in it when rosario dawson pops up, it's like fuck, and was arnold's watchman ever in the very, yeah, very beginning and he says like good luck. So apparently he showed up on, he was just kind of there on set and, um, just kind of like having lunch with him and peterberg's like be in the movie, be in the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're here. You can't not be in the movie.
Speaker 1:Like he said, he was like really twisting his arm and he just wanted a cameo, just a slight cameo, and so they came up with a line with like good luck, and it's supposed to be kind of a passing of the torch to the rock to be the new action star. And what I loved is it worked like it's true, he is our. Usually when you think of big action stars, especially from now it's, you're gonna think probably Jason Statham, vin Diesel and the Rock, because they're all in the Fast and the Furious movies, and then you'd go to probably Marvel movies with Chris Hemsworth and all them. But I love the cast. They're all game. They know exactly what type of movie this is. It's just supposed to be a fun action romp and as much as I feel like the script and sometimes the editing is trying to destroy it it looks great, the locations look great. They filmed in hawaii and it ended up being a hit, made 80 million dollars, nice.
Speaker 1:It's weird that this is one of the movies that ended up being a box office success. But even though it had a box office success, it still became a cult classic, which is kind of weird. It's interesting. It's like usually you have to fail to become a cult classic. Yeah, I can't believe I never saw this. But when you just kind of get forgotten, I feel like this is a forgotten movie. This is of the times you know yeah, it's well.
Speaker 2:It's very just for fun movie. It's not like you kind of can turn your brain off and watch it.
Speaker 1:We are in the era of like snatch and because I feel like this and snatch are kind of a good double feature almost just in terms of very stylistic action movies with goofy characters you can barely understand, like whatever the Scottish guy is. But yeah, that's pretty much all the facts and all the things I want to say before we get into the film. Should we hip hop right on in? Let's?
Speaker 2:punch our way into this movie. Let's go.
Speaker 1:The Rundown 2003 starring Dwayne the Rock Johnson, sean William, scott man I keep wanting to say Sean Astin, scott, rosario Dawson and Christopher Walken. That's pretty much the four main characters you have to worry about. So we start the movie with Beck. He's on it. He is a retrieval expert, a bounty hunter, who collects debts from a man named Billy Walker. He also wants to open up a restaurant as a chef.
Speaker 2:He's listening to the cooking.
Speaker 1:The cooking station on AM radio.
Speaker 2:This is my favorite station.
Speaker 1:I listen to it all the time To pass out. We see that he's dispatched to a nightclub to retrieve a championship ring from a football player. These are all xfl players. This is also where we get arnold just walking through saying good luck, which is great, um. But then, like they kind of go through the whole thing with the xfl players size, weight, what they do, what teams they play on and it's like these really lame graphics. It's almost kind of like something seeing a video game type graphic it was paid to be put in here definitely.
Speaker 1:But um, this seems great because it's fun to see rock with everybody, everybody's ass, and I don't know, he's just immediately charismatic yeah, he does whip so much ass yeah and he performs a rock bottom like come on what? Yeah, like, as soon as that happened, I was like natalie, that's his finisher is that the body slam thing?
Speaker 1:it's where he like throws him over like his shoulder and then throws him down like that with one arm. Okay, this is, it's called the rock bottom. I didn't watch much wrestling. Um attitude arrow represent something, but something that I think really helps this film. At the very beginning is there's a scene where the quarterback, the guy with the ring, he's like I'm not doing this and then, like all the offensive linemen's, like is there a problem here?
Speaker 2:and then he starts.
Speaker 1:He starts just throwing drinks in the rock's face and the rock's like okay. So he goes to the bathroom, he calls the boss. He's like can we just do this some other time? Like they have a chance to like run it back. I don't really want to hurt them. And that line there I was like oh, this movie is gonna be smart with the characters at least, because I don't know. This is a really great thing to add to show that he's not an asshole. But he just he's got to do his job because no one gave him a break and I'm assuming that's why he's in the situation where he has to be this guy but he doesn't give people options.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he gives them.
Speaker 1:He gives them two options every time, and if you just go with option a, it seems like it's gonna work out yeah, it's always gonna work out yeah instead, because I mean he's gonna get you, he's gonna get what he needs um. Also, probably my favorite part of this whole scene is he takes out the quarterback um with a turntable just throws it it's great.
Speaker 1:I'm like hell. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. He wrecks this fucking place, yeah. And so after beating up the team, he goes back to his car and he's like all exhausted and then he gets assaulted by his bosses. One of his other collectors Shot in the head with a beanbag. The beanbag guy Apparently that's an adult film star what, yeah? And I guess beanbag. See, this is the thing, because I learned this in the commentary Well.
Speaker 1:I guess he had a movie that was called like Beanbag Something. But I don't know if that's serious because that came from the commentary, I don't know. But it's like, hey guy, like he got the ring, like why are we attacking?
Speaker 2:the rock. He comes up and slaps him with a coin purse. I know it's so wild.
Speaker 1:So, so angry. Beck is angry and he confronts Walker and tells him that he wants out of the business. Walker talks him into one last bounty retrieve Walker's son, travis, played by Sean Williams, scott from a small mountain town in Brazil, and Walker would give him enough money to open his own restaurant. And the main guy, billy Walker. He comes off as powerful and scary and he's also a little racist. Yeah, because he off as powerful and scary and he's also a little racist. Yeah, because he calls, like Beck's friends, monkeys. I didn't catch that the first time. Then, when I was doing notes, I was like, oh, this guy's racist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's kind of fucked up, but I guess that's supposed to mean he's like a mob boss or something. Yeah, he's a bad guy. Bad guy, no good, very bad Most of those people are racist. Yeah, pretty much In movies at it's just a very little line at the very end that we get that. So Beck accepts and leaves for.
Speaker 1:Brazil. He flies in a plane piloted by a weird Scottish guy.
Speaker 1:That you can't understand the word he's saying, had to put on the subtitles. His name's Declan. He's great though. He's very funny. In this movie I like him especially. There's a part where Travis says something mean to him and he like throws down the water and like starts walking up, like beat him up, but Declan gives him warning. Once they land he kind of shows him around and takes him to the town. He gives him warnings and shows him around the jungle, talks about how if the wildlife is dangerous, the rebels are dangerous and Hatcher is the most dangerous and he seems to be using the people of this country as slaves, essentially.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that sucks what he's done. Yeah, it looks terrible the whole thing.
Speaker 1:He's pretty much the worst man. Yeah, not good Built a huge mine, though that's a ginormous place Done a big hole.
Speaker 2:Jeez Louise. You can do that with slave labor.
Speaker 1:I guess so. And then we officially meet Travisvis, who's trying to woo marina. Right, her name's marina yeah, he's got a.
Speaker 2:He gives it a pretty good try.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the flowers, I mean that's like, and then he messes up because he all he's wanting is her uncle's boat. He tells her he knows exactly where to go to get the gato. I think it's el gato diablo. She is very curious about how much. I just heard that you said get this pussy. That's funny. She is very curious about how much it's worth. She wants to go with and split the reward 50-50. I'm sure we won't figure out why, though.
Speaker 2:Later, because she wants money.
Speaker 1:Money's cool. When Beck arrives in town of El Dorado, he meets with the man running the mining operation, cornelius Hatcher, played by Christopher Walken, who just he's game every movie he's in, he does the thing that he does and it works.
Speaker 2:every guy so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we see that it's a giant mine. It's very chaotic introduction to Hatcher because there's so much going on and cutting and it's like what is happening, is everybody about to die? What's going on? Um, but we see that he's very hard on the people.
Speaker 2:That it works for him works in quotations here well, we'll say this about christopher walken's character has really really bad analogies, terrible it's like, hey, let's stop using american analogies on these people that can barely speak english.
Speaker 1:You know, but that scene with the tooth fairy is so funny though it's so funny and good. It's great. Beck is there to ask Hatcher if he knows Travis. Hatcher does and Travis is supposed to split anything. He finds 60-40, meaning Hatcher gets 60 and Travis gets 40. You also get the line when I'm a guest in another man's house. I don't reach into his refrigerator without asking permission and then Hatcher's like refrigerator, frigerator, I can't, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it, I can't.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, try it again I can't, and then he shows him like to the whole mine and it looks like instead of a refrigerator. Right. But Hatcher gives his blessing to grab Travis and Beck, but Beck has to give him $10,000, which he does. I don't know Christopher Walken. I don't know Christopher Walken there you go. It's back he's. I mean, are you like a big fan of Christopher Walken?
Speaker 2:I am. I don't think this is one of his better performances, but it is a performance. It's okay.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen the movie King of New York? No, that's going to be a movie we do on here in probably like five years, once we get to that point. That's cool. It's just kind of this 80s movie where he's kind of like the main gangster of New York and everybody loves him and it's just like Christopher Walken really Cool. But he crushes that movie. So Beck goes to Marina's bar to get Travis. He gets a lot like. Travis walks out. He's like he's in his 20s, he's got sandy hair.
Speaker 2:He's just looking at him.
Speaker 1:Wearing a blue shirt and jeans. Right now he's got a real bewildered look on his face. It's great, but even before we get to Travis, there's a great back and forth between Rosario Dawson and the Rock and I was just like, oh man, this is working. The Rock's actually being good in this movie and it's awesome to see.
Speaker 2:It's weird that she's like where are you from? And she goes somewhere with a bartender, somewhere with a bartender that she gets up and goes around like he's like ah, my bad.
Speaker 1:Then you get the Brazilian. Brazilian nuts go for like $15 a pound in our. It's like, oh, we don't call them Brazilian nuts. It's like what do you call them? Well, we're in Brazil, so we just call them nuts.
Speaker 2:What do they call them Nuts, are you sure?
Speaker 1:That's what she said, ha ha. And then we get the. That's what she said. I was watching the Office. So Beck gives his option A and option B speech which is what he always does to Travis but Travis refuses. Beck just punches him in the face which will happen 500 times in this movie and captures him. But at this point Travis is like what about option C? He's like there is no option C and then Hatcher walks in as option C for him.
Speaker 1:What if we just kiss a little bit? Hatcher walks into the bar and now Hatcher wants Travis so that he can lead him to the El Gato Diablo evil kitty devil cat, devil pussy, the bad kitty that's one hot cat, so Beck refuses to get. I'm sorry guys, I know y'all. So many people ran off the road from laughing so hard from those bits stop driving and listen so Beck refuses to give up Travis and beats up everybody there.
Speaker 1:it's so many people ran off the road from laughing so hard from those. Yes, stop driving and listen. So Beck refuses to give up Travis and beats up everybody there. It's a great fight, though. Love it. The guy whips the table in half.
Speaker 2:Yes, when I saw it.
Speaker 1:I was like man. I want to learn how to use it.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's the two whip guy too, isn't?
Speaker 1:it. Yeah Well, he's got two whips later. Where'd you find all these guys with whips, I don't know. And why is there not a whip fight in every movie, which this is also kind of playing off? Indiana Jones?
Speaker 2:yeah, because this is a lot like Indiana Jones. Imagine that like Indiana Jones, and he had a buddy, but instead of short round it's tall, big, tall, strong it's essentially.
Speaker 1:It's Indiana Jones, romancing the stone and MacGruber all in one movie. That's a hell of a movie, but yeah. So essentially Beck gets the upper hand and the whole time he's not using guns because he doesn't use guns, but he's constantly using them like he's going to use them.
Speaker 2:It's because he's hitting people with them.
Speaker 1:And something I love is when people take guns and just completely dismantles them and like throws them around. I'm just like hell, yeah, that's the coolest thing, but he does it. But then he but he usually does it with his muscles he does do it with his muscles.
Speaker 2:He flexes on them, the guns just explode but when he used the magazine, yeah, that's awesome, it's good, it's good. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:man, that's probably like a 500th action movie that's done it too but Beck takes Travis out the door. Hatcher says you're dead, you don't even know it yet. And then Travis, like five seconds later, says the same thing. And on the way back to the airfield Travis forces their jeep off the road into a jungle. You get the long roll down a mountain. Like peter berg's other movie, lone survivor it's great people falling down is the funniest shit.
Speaker 1:It always works and natalie the whole time, so like they're dead, they're dead here. They're dead here. Yes, everything's broken there I'm like, and then it gets down to the very end and they land in water. I'm like, babe, they land in water, everything's fine. As long as you land in water, no matter what happens, you're okay, it's not about the journey, it's about the destination action movies.
Speaker 2:Water heals everything it stops all, it does pain and it's weird.
Speaker 1:It always works, though it's amazing. So there he tries to escape, but it is recaptured by beck. You get the classic thunder and lightning bit. You know? Oh, how about a little bit of thunder? Have you seen his friend lightning? He just punches him. Yeah, it's great. Any time that happens, it's amazing.
Speaker 2:Then it works At one time. Yeah, at the very end it finally works for him.
Speaker 1:It's great. This is something me and my friend growing up, richard, used to do a lot. It's so funny, we found it so funny, you, it was so funny, we found it so funny. And I love this. You get the line like after he like beats the crap out of travis, you done beat me up, let's go, because beck says that it's so funny, you done beat me up. It's one of those things where it's like man the rock he's, he was always gonna be a star. But then I also love it when he knocks him on the ground, he pins him and I was like, wow, he pinned him for three seconds.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious oh, he had. Nobody came in and slapped the floor.
Speaker 1:This was around the time when if there was a wrestler in a movie, they always have to do some sort of wrestling thing. Yeah, so he does the rock bottom and things like that in this movie it's great because he also does the same thing in the movie that the Rock was in called Walking Tall, another movie that I loved growing up. I was really big into wrestling, so I kind of watched everything with the wrestlers. The rock is just he's kind of cool and fun.
Speaker 1:It's just weird that you know like you have someone like the rock which is like, yeah, of course he should be able to be an action star. And then you have John Cena and it's like, well, yeah, he's the bit. He was like the main guy in wrestling, even though I didn but love them and love them in movies, hated them as a wrestler interesting. But then out of all those, out of those two, the still the best actor out of all of them was batista.
Speaker 1:No shit, yeah, the gardens of the galaxy tracks yeah, and I was like, but he said no charisma in wrestling, which is the weirdest thing, but he, he also just kind of worked with better directors, honestly, I think. But anyways, we'll continue. He's funny as hell. Yeah, he's funny. And then did you ever watch Blade Runner 2049? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's the worm eater.
Speaker 1:He's the best part of that movie.
Speaker 2:Like. That section is the best part of the movie. It's great and he has the tiniest glasses yeah, big people with tiny glasses. It just makes you means he's intellectual, yeah it means he's intellectual.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just like man, you drop those, you lose them, though they're so small I can't see them.
Speaker 2:Takes off his glasses, body slams.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Travis tries to get out of it by explaining how valuable and important the gato is. That's so important, yeah. And then you see it and it's like, wow, this looks like a cheap piece of prop setting Made of pure gold. Yes, it's like a cheap piece of prop setting Made of pure gold. Yes, but Beck refuses. I thought you got a very funny. Sean William Scott's very good at delivering lines because you get the part. It's like you're a very unpleasant individual. You know that. It's great. We get a scene with Hatcher explaining that they have to get the Gato because if the people get it, I'm sorry, I can't. What Am I saying it wrong? I don't know. You're saying it right. What this?
Speaker 2:is hilarious. We gotta get that gato man. You gotta see that gato.
Speaker 1:It gets me every time. The part just kind of like can you just say cat, please, I know. Or artifact something? Yeah, I don't know, they do. I know it's killing me right now. It's the first word I learned in Spanish class too. But if the people get the statue, then they won't need Hatcher anymore. He tries to explain this to those men using like a tooth fairy analogy. It's great, this whole part. It's probably the funniest part of the whole movie.
Speaker 2:They're just looking at him like what the fuck is he saying? Yeah, it's like he's like can you please explain the concept of the tooth fairy to everybody, and then eventually he's like, okay, hold on, and then the analogy is wrong, cause at the end he's, he goes. I want my tooth back?
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause he says she takes the goddamn tooth and gives a quarter. I can't they have my tooth. I want it back. It's a baby tooth. I know it's like you can't get it, there's nothing you can do with it, but I guess the whole thing is and it was your parents. It'd be better if he was the tooth fairy. It's like I'm the tooth fairy. They got my tooth.
Speaker 2:See it doesn't work. No, so he's the kid in the bed.
Speaker 1:Tooth fairy takes the gato to get money so yeah, technically you want you want to give the gato to a tooth fairy, so they give you money but then you want to get your tooth back because he's a gangster, I guess he wants Shodden Williams Scott's, he wants Travis's tooth so he can get the money from the tooth fairy and oh, so he's taking all these people's teeth yeah that his miners he's taking their teeth, except he's a he's a bad tooth
Speaker 1:fairy, because he only gives them 65 cents an hour, so he doesn't give him a dollar I could imagine the real tooth fairy is the exact same. So when your kids are like they lose a tooth, it's like dad, this tooth fairy only gave me a daughter dollar.
Speaker 2:It's like, well, I could only give you 65 cents an hour no, I forgot so many teeth under pillows that I just came out with it. I'm like, look, it's not real y'all. I had to because I couldn't keep up the facade any longer. It's like dang, don't forget.
Speaker 1:Christmas Sheesh.
Speaker 2:I didn't do that to Christmas. What about?
Speaker 1:Easter. Do you give them candy on Easter? Yeah, they get shit.
Speaker 2:I don't know get shit, I don't know. On columbus day, do you give them land? No, no, no. Yeah, we take land from the locals and we give it to them.
Speaker 1:Every columbus day. You take your kids to a reservation. It's yours now. Oh god, I'm cutting. I'm cutting that I don't know where, that I don't know where I came with, I don't know why I did that, because, because I don't know, whatever.
Speaker 2:So beck and travis stop, because travis has to pee.
Speaker 1:We get a little silly scene where Travis trying to get his dick out, and it's great, it's like it's a really awkward scene of having a tough guy try to pull unzip a guy's pants. He's always funny. And how do you get it out? There's no way.
Speaker 2:I know he's just like wiggling it.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't know what you call them because I don't wear those. But then you're going to have to like that's the great part, Because let me get to the scene. So this we also. A little bit before this, Beck is talking about how he doesn't give breaks, no matter what. That will just come back a little bit later.
Speaker 1:So, but while he's peeing Travis is peeing Beck accidentally steps into a trap and gets hung up by vines and Travis makes fun of him and picks up, picks up his black book and he's like oh, you want to be a chef during this whole time With the thing. So he doesn't zip up his pants Cause he can't, so for like a good like couple of minutes he's just walking around making fun of him with his penis.
Speaker 1:But then he's able to get his hands free. But fun of him with his penis hanging out of his pants. But then he's able to get his hands free. But the whole time I was like Natalie he still has his penis out. He still has his penis out. He still has his penis out. It's great. But then Travis steps into a trap and gets hung up as well.
Speaker 2:And he immediately gets punched.
Speaker 1:It's like give me my book back, punches him right after, and then we get the classic monkey humping the rock's face. That was great, fucking puppet Dude. The puppets in this movie look terrifying and great, though, because you have real monkeys and then it cuts to the puppet monkeys and they look pretty good. I think these are. They look vicious, aren't these baboons though? Yeah, they're baboons. Okay, I mean, baboons are monkeys, right, but they're definitely baboons. Yeah, I think they're a different type of baboon.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're like you're no, they're not like the big, mean blue butt ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they have like the weird colors underneath you yeah, not those. But I love this, as he's starting to get humped in the face.
Speaker 2:Beck does. Travis says establish dominance.
Speaker 1:establish dominance what? Would you do try to bite his dick off just be like please don't go for my penis, please don't eat my penis or my face. Luckily they just got horny monkeys and didn't get hungry monkeys no, I spit, I spit yeah, you won't like me. I'm a spitter. I'm a swallow, anything you put in my mouth, you're gonna lose being bad guys comes out say I know what to do in this situation based on my previous performances.
Speaker 1:No, so, after an unfortunate encounter with the local monkeys, the two find themselves in a camp of local resistant movement. At the resistant encampment, travis convinces the rebels that Beck works for Hatcher and was sent to kill them cause they only speak Brazilian. Or Travis convinces the rebels that Beck works for Hatcher and was sent to kill them because they only speak Brazilian or Portuguese whatever, because in Brazil they speak Portuguese and English oh cool, didn't know that.
Speaker 1:And he just essentially tells the Rock, like, stare him in his eyes, stare him in his eyes and look as mean and tough as you can. And so he's doing. And of course the guy's why is he looking so mad at me, provoking him? And essentially he's just saying like, hey, he's going to kill all you guys and he sent a hatcher which makes it to where they're going to fight. That's the funniest shit and this fight absolutely rules.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's awesome them swinging down and just like kicking him around in the air while they're all swinging on ropes them using when he gets the stick right, because Beck starts getting the upper hand and he's got the stick, that's on fire and he bashes it on that guy's head. It looks so good, that was cool, it was so awesome. It's where this movie succeeds in the action, especially when they don't cut it up too bad and it's just kind of slow motion motion and the point is to see how hard he's getting hit. It's great. He's just like slinging guys, it's like into trees he's getting kicked in the air.
Speaker 2:He gets thrown all the way up into a tree and falls like a lot do you think maybe that they thought that Rock needs revenge against monkeys and this was supposed to be a monkey fight against?
Speaker 1:monkeys. It's John William Scott's like. This is some sort of spinning Tarzan Tarzan.
Speaker 2:Jiu Jitsu. Yeah, they're like well, he can't fight real monkeys.
Speaker 1:We're gonna use actors, we're gonna use people who fight like monkeys would yes, it's great. Yeah, it's pretty fucking cool, amazing, it's the best. It's my favorite part of the movie. Honestly, when I was taking notes, I had to rewind it. I got to write down every little thing.
Speaker 2:And what happens? When you beat up a group of people, they become best friends, exactly Every time.
Speaker 1:Because, as because essentially everybody's about to kill back, and then Rosario Dawson comes out and it's like yo stop, we're all on the same. Yo yo, adrian, stop, we're all on the same team here. Um, travis didn't know. Uh, during the scene, travis is like what, what are you doing here? He didn't know that she was a rebel leader, cause it turns out she's the leader of the resistance.
Speaker 2:He's a PhD student and he's not very smart.
Speaker 1:Well, that's why I said he was a student. Yeah, he keeps saying he has a PhD but he does not.
Speaker 2:Well, I heard him say that you're messing with someone who is studying for a PhD or something he says you're messing with you don't think I? Know I have a PhD and then he's like you dropped out.
Speaker 1:But we learned she wants Travis as she wants Travis to lead her to the Gato.
Speaker 2:Stop trying to make him look smart. Yeah, in any movie. It's never going to work. He's such a cocky asshole.
Speaker 1:It's like impossible to make him look super smart. But she wants them so that she can get the Gato and then sell it so that she can free them from Hatcher. She explains that hatcher only pays them 65 cents an hour and the only way to get money is to borrow from hatcher and then you owe him and have to work for him in the mine.
Speaker 2:It's a shitty situation indentured slave servitude, yeah, something like that yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1:He kind of set it up to no matter what they're gonna fail. Yeah, bad man. And he uses like well at least least you got houses and you have all this stuff because of me. But you also want to die because of me and you're going to die, yeah. But then all of a sudden Hatcher suddenly attacks the camp. I will say Beck does earn the respect of the guy that was beating the crap out of him you gave him a gift Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali, like a little speech.
Speaker 2:It's really bad. He's talking about which one would win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like it's kind of a cringy talk and then it's pretty lame, but this happens in like every action movie in the eighties, where it's like oh, this person, oh he can fight Annie. He thinks, but here's the thing he gives the rock a gift and so, and just where you have this thing, when, if something comes off as it could be portrayed as like almost kind of homosexual a little bit, that person has to die because he immediately Hatcher attacks the camp and he immediately dies after giving the rock, another man, a gift, and then bonding and seeming like, looking at each other, trying to be like, oh my gosh, we have so much in common actually.
Speaker 2:And this is supposed to develop like this big sense of loss for this character. Yeah, even though they just met and they really don't go all the way for it, it's just Rosario Dawson's like no, Well, let's go.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I just thought it was very funny because I like went on the whole speech with MacGruber. It's like, oh, someone has to die because if it seems I was like wow, they didn't even wait five minutes. But so they get away on a boat Beck, Travis and Mariana Mariana, Is that what I said? Marina, Marina Escape the camp and Beck makes a deal with Marina. She helps him get Travis to the airfield in exchange for the gado. So they agree and Travis is like, oh well, that's great. I guess I'm just screwing here.
Speaker 2:Throwing that gato all around town.
Speaker 1:Travis is.
Speaker 2:Man, he knows about gatos, he'll do.
Speaker 1:Anything He'll do anything for a gato so after some. After some surfing Jesus, we're back to point break. We're redoing point break.
Speaker 2:Oh no, we're redoing point break.
Speaker 1:I'm stuck in a time loop, after some searching Travis, leads them to the cave behind a waterfall where the Gato is located. During this you get the classic penis parasite. Yeah, I feel like it happened. It just pops up every decade in a movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it was Anaconda.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that was the first I ever I feel like movies just constantly spread this rumor about this parasite and I feel bad for the parasite I think it might be real, though I could be. I don't know. I feel like I've looked it up so many times and I can't ever remember what the outcome of the, it gets in there and it spreads out at the barbs. Yeah it just has a party in there, just drinks your pee, not this boy's pinto, because that's what the rock says.
Speaker 1:It's so good it's so good, this line delivery is so good, uh, uh, not today. In the scene, when they get into the cave, you have the methane explosion and then also the weird 800 year old safe. That doesn't seem to make any sense. Yeah, and seemed to. Uh, would have been great if Travis, who knows how this safe works, didn't immediately cause the safe to start collapsing, because if he just he didn't immediately touch a giant stick, none of that would have been coming down, and then he could have just done the safe normally.
Speaker 2:So he's like he's still like stupid and smart at the same time, he's not exactly Indiana Jones, because that never would have flown for him.
Speaker 1:But then again Indiana Jones always gets in a situation where he's smart, but then in the end he always does something dumb where he none of them are great art.
Speaker 2:What are they called? Archaeologists? Archaeologists yeah, we just get in trouble.
Speaker 1:We have to do one of the Indiana Jones. I think we should we'll do it a little, we'll give it some space from this one or Uncharted.
Speaker 2:That was kind of like Indiana Jonesy I never watched that one.
Speaker 1:I need to watch it since I played the game. Yeah, okay, but they get the gato and they escape, and then they begin their journey back.
Speaker 2:They get what they want and immediately leave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like oh wow, so they're just gone. We didn't see how they escaped these rocks falling on them or anything. So on the way back, marina chastises Travis for wanting to steal the artifact, but Travis argues that he actually did want to give it to a museum, just like Indy Marina gives the two men. How do you say what? Did she call them? Conlobos, the little fruits, bad fruits, the toxic fruit that temporarily paralyzes the eater.
Speaker 2:It's pretty funny, though, and once they're yeah it's great, get out of here, monkey.
Speaker 1:Get out of here, monkey, go away. The delivery by them saying that line is so funny, it's so good. But she tells Beck which direction the airfield is. She leaves them with the fire to keep the animals away. But the next day, after waking up unable to move, the monkeys come back. Get out of here, monkey.
Speaker 2:Get out of here.
Speaker 1:But Beck comes out of his paralysis by thinking about home. See thing is when you're the rock and you got such big monkeys. If you just think about home and yell it loud enough, paralysis is completely fixed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can, just will it away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the thing. What action movies has taught?
Speaker 2:us. Maybe the monkeys were massaging them in the night and got all the poison out.
Speaker 1:Who knows, maybe these monkeys were like actually we love you now because we're buried. I own you and I want to take care of you.
Speaker 2:Got you too.
Speaker 1:It's a really sweet, yeah, monkey husband starts petting his head.
Speaker 1:Gives him some. Brings him a banana and some, like pears, I don't know. Brings him some Brazil nuts or, as the monkeys call them, nuts Just tea bags, yeah. So Beck Halls travels to the airfield. The local pilot, declan, who wants his Jeep back, tells Beck that Marina was captured earlier by Hatcher and will probably be killed. This is where we get, like Declan. Be like where's my Jeep? It's like I'll get you a Jeep. Well, it's dead now. And then Travis makes fun of him. He's like you want to fight, you wanna fight? Beck, feeling guilty that he hasn't kept his word with Marina, decides to go rescue her. He's at the airfield and she doesn't have the gato. So Travis talks about, talks Beck into helping. Along with Declan, the three head into town to rescue her. Fuck, yeah. And then Town fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then so they take out one of the cameras at Hatcher's and Beck gives Hatcher his classic option A, option B speech. And of course Hatcher does not choose the thing. Wrong choice. Beck says Hatcher locks down the town and then we get the celery distraction from Declan. He comes out and puts on a distraction with some bagpipes and I think it's an Ezekiel Bible quote that he says yeah, I think it's. I think I've heard it in another movie, or maybe I'm just thinking, cause I mean they're just doing the pulp fiction bit. Oh, I see, is it from the same scripture?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I can't remember but, this is great Cause they use a cow you know my name is the Lord, oh yeah. I think, it's in the same book, though.
Speaker 2:I think they use Ezekiel. Yeah, it's all in the same book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I mean, like the same chapter or whatever, the book of Ezekiel, Okay, but this part's great because they use a cow stampede for cover. It's awesome you got a lot of cows. That was terrible. Playing cowbell yeah, I have a fever. So the two begin their assault on Hatcher's Goon. Beck is wrecking shop while Travis just kind of fumbles away through it all, but he finally successfully uses his thunder and lightning method.
Speaker 2:It works on a guy.
Speaker 1:That guy was not like the best fighter, that guy was like a like halfway through a bottle of Jack Daniels before he even got to this fight, Because he looked pretty like what the? Hell is going on here.
Speaker 2:He's probably going to just blow him over.
Speaker 1:You know, with a little puff he probably ran in circles and made him spin around a little bit, he passed out. But during all this the chaos kind of gets a little overwhelming for him and Hatcher's men are taking over. Travis becomes trapped by gunfire in a bus and Beck saves him before the bus explodes by finally deciding to use guns. This is when the editing is just getting crazy, though, like we're, we're cutting to people pulling triggers bullets, bullets flying out.
Speaker 1:One guy spits, one guy spits. There's a we do not go quietly written on a gun, just for a flash, and it's pretty chaotic we do not go quietly. Written on a gun just for a flash, and yeah it's pretty chaotic, you have travis yelling and then finally the rock just stands up.
Speaker 2:He's like oh, by the way, I'm a badass, all of a sudden yes I remember guns then he just starts shooting and he finds every cool way to cock a yes, this is what I was gonna say shotgun the entire time, like all the cool ways you can kill something with two shotguns. Yes, he finds a way he does it.
Speaker 1:He does it every single way man those shotguns shoots very far away and kills people. I'm like I don't think shotguns oh, slugs, slugs aren't.
Speaker 2:They don't spread out. Sure they don't spread out as much so maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1:Man movie says so so obviously he was using slugs, but no, it's great, they're all just shooting guns. It was cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 1:If you're going to say he doesn't use guns and you build up to the point where he uses a gun, it successfully did it.
Speaker 2:It was cool. I thought he was going to give a people's eyebrow as he was turning around with the guns.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no, sadly.
Speaker 1:My favorite is when he like turns the gun. He puts it under his arms and then cocks him and makes a far sound, flips him again. Yeah, it's like the classic, like put your hand on your arm for sounds. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, so it's great. Oh, but I do love whenever, because he causes the giant explosion and he's walking away and so I don't know it. It looked weird because I don't know if the explosion behind him was fake, if he's not actually there or if the gp is about to walk into.
Speaker 2:It's not there because he's not actually there, or if the jeep he is about to walk into.
Speaker 1:It's not there because he's walking away from the explosion, but they have the jeep in front of him. I'm like, is he just? And he continues to walk. I'm like, is he going to walk into this jeep? He slaps the jeep out of the way but I was like this is so weird like why? Did they? It made it look silly, and then they cut to another shot of him walking away. It was just one of those things where I was like why do I have to focus on stupid?
Speaker 2:stuff like that.
Speaker 1:But Hatcher tells his brother to take Marina I will swear to God I will not get her name right. I just don't feel comfortable the way I'm saying it. But Hatcher tells his brother to take Marina and the Gato and flee, but they are stopped by Travis and Beck tells. Beck takes out some guys by tackling a pillar from a house and causing a fall down, and it's just like let's see there's two guys in this house instead of me.
Speaker 2:Just like, maybe, going and running into the building and beating them up what if I just take down the whole building, just beat up the house?
Speaker 1:since we're trying to save the town might as well destroy it right, right, we've had cows. We've shot everything. There's been a couple explosions, we're about to, and then Travis completely destroys their water tower. So now they have no water, they have no cows, they have nowhere to sleep. The bar is dead, can't even get drunk. At least they got the cat, they got that gato. Then the three whip boys come out. Yeah, the whip boys. Holy shit, he takes them out after an awesome fight. They're just constantly whipping.
Speaker 2:He's like he's jumping up in the air to dodge them.
Speaker 1:He's grabbing onto the whips. He gets like this dope thing where they whip his hands, where he has the two guns like right next to each other, but he ends up able to shoot them too.
Speaker 2:I'm like hell yeah, dude, he shot the two whip boys yeah.
Speaker 1:The whip boys. The whip boys, so great. But then after he beats him up, travis says hey guys, see you later, I got the gato Bye and he leaves. So we think Hatcher confronts Beck who offers him the chance to leave town, which Hatcher initially refuses. And after he is shot by the townspeople, hatcher agrees to leave town but eventually dies from his gunshot wounds. Pretty great Like I. Really like the way he dies.
Speaker 2:Just how almost anticlimactic it is. Yeah, I thought it was going to be funnier. Yeah, well, it's kind of great.
Speaker 1:He gets shot.
Speaker 2:He's like oh OK, take option.
Speaker 1:A. I guess I lose, I'm hurting pretty bad, I'm just going to walk out of here. And then just walks out and dies. He's like, oh shit, I don't know when it happened. I was like I really like this. I think this is a very fun way to kill your villain.
Speaker 2:It was cool because Iayden wilder is rolling over in his grave right now oompa, loompas, like it's like how much did they get paid to be with?
Speaker 1:probably nothing probably 65 pieces of candy they actually did.
Speaker 2:I think they do because, like in the newest, uh willie wonka, I think in.
Speaker 1:I think they do, cause like in the newest uh, willy Wonka, I think in the books they do and in the news Willy Wonka that's how he was in real life.
Speaker 2:Of course they get paid in candy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have safety. So Travis, get um, they're making a speech. Uh, rosario Dawson in the rock. They're like well, rosario Dawson and the Rock, they're like well, neither one of us got what we wanted, but at least we saved the town, right. And then Travis comes up. Oh, y'all talking about this, travis.
Speaker 2:Because he gives the Goddard With this Goddard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he gives the Goddard a marina and says it really wasn't about the money the whole time, but it almost was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it dang it. Maybe if I make the gesture of coming back, nobody will. I'll get more money from Legato and Beck won't take me. But Beck who tells him that despite all that they've been through, he must still return Travis to the United States because no breaks. Yeah, what the fuck? All gas, no breaks, that's the rock baby. Oh, I've been so pissed, I mean like seriously, well then I'm running away again. Damn it, yeah. So Travis is delivered to his dad, who begins to verbally and physically abuse him because it turns out this guy no good, very bad. Beck receives his money and asks to celebrate with him and gives Walker and his men the fruit that paralyzes them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, makes them tribuled. It's great. He's like.
Speaker 1:Immediately by the way, Travis, just like as soon as he sees him, he's like I get so happy it's so funny the face he makes.
Speaker 2:He's like, oh my gosh. Oh, I see a secret yeah, um.
Speaker 1:And as they are paralyzed, beck removes the handcuffs from travis and the duo leave together, with travis continuing to jokingly mock and annoy beck. I love it because he's like hey, you remember your friend mr thunder? How about his buddy, mr Lightning? Oh, I know, you know him. You know him real well, don't you? And then it's like grunts, I'm just playing, man, I'll be in the truck, I'm going to kill you.
Speaker 2:I was going to do that as our opening line. I was so confused by that scene. Yeah, he is messing with them, but that's a movie that was fun.
Speaker 1:classic early 2000s action movie best whip work I've seen since uh, spartacus it is. I mean, it's the best rope fighting, the best whip fighting I think we've probably ever seen right I don't know too many movies with whips and uh people just doing like dives off of trees with ropes on them taking out buildings with their bodies.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, we used to make things in this country of trees with ropes on them, taking out buildings with their bodies Hell yeah, we used to make things in this country. If you compare this movie to something like I'm trying to think, I don't always want to use the gray man as a. Let's talk about the Chris Hemsworth movie, the Extraction. Did you ever watch that Extraction? Yeah, it came out a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:They have a sequel.
Speaker 1:Kidnap people. Yeah, I think someone gets kidnapped or something and he's got to extract them From the jungle From the jungle, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's like there's so much CGI in it and so much of it is just them shooting their guns over and over and over. It's cool, it's, but like the locations don't feel real because there's a lot of CGI. The action's very choppy throughout the entire thing and there's nothing super interesting about it, except for a couple of the one-ers like one shots that they do, versus like a movie like this who's? It's probably on the same script level and type of production level, but there just seems to be.
Speaker 2:It's just there's cooler ideas it's a little bit wittier with the ropes, the whips yeah, it's very.
Speaker 1:It's funnier and there's a few funny parts of extraction, but it's just Chris Hemsworth who's extremely charismatic. They're like make sure you don't be charismatic as much as possible wow, but I mean he's great, he's the best part in it and there is, but they don't give them like great back back and forth scenes with any of the actors, like they're doing this and I think that's where really this movie kind of takes a leap, is that?
Speaker 1:oh, the banter back and forth is really funny, you know, it's like great. It's like I could watch john william scott and, uh, the rock just kind of walk in the woods picking on each other yeah, because that's why that's what works with kevin hart and duane johnson.
Speaker 1:It's like as if duane johnson has someone funny to play off of it's always great like central intelligence and yeah, even though that's like I'm, I used to like do a thing. Uh, when I was in murphysboro like mediocre movie monday, where I just kind of get a bunch of like mediocre, like like movies that have like 60% of Rotten Tomatoes that aren't like great but are very watchable, like Central Intelligence was on them, oh nice. And that's what this movie kind of feels like, but just like a little bit better.
Speaker 2:More explosions.
Speaker 1:It's like it's not like close to being sort of like rotten, but it's just like a little bit away from being rotten.
Speaker 2:It's ripe? Yeah it, it's right, but it's not.
Speaker 1:It's like this movie, Like I prefer apples over pears, but pears are still pretty good.
Speaker 2:And that's what this movie is about. I don't know. This is a great pear. That's my Christopher Walken analogy. Give me my pear back, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we're going to head into our categories the good, the bad, the ugly, the fine. This is where we talk about the good of the film, something we like. The bad, something we didn't like. The ugly, something that didn't age well. The fine, something that did age well. I'm going to start rope fighting and whip fighting. Yeah, the fight scenes are fucking cool. That's great. I figure we'll both probably have the fight scenes, just because the action scenes just pop out so much here. Hell yeah, also the rock. Just. I mean, for just this being his third movie and his second as the lead, he crushed it. I feel like he did a great job.
Speaker 1:It was awesome. It was a great starting point for his career, which eventually led to him being one of the most profitable actors on the planet.
Speaker 2:Do you remember there was another Jungle movie he was in?
Speaker 1:I think it was, but he maybe journey to the center of the earth? Yeah because he did the sequel to it, because brendan fraser did the first one, I believe okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it may have been the sequel, but he was like bouncing berries off of his pecs that one was in 3d because it bounces at the camera and it's like what the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 1:here. What am I watching? It is funny because it's come a long way. He started in the mummy universe and then, as brendan frazier's like stardom went down, rock took over the journey, this universe and kind of absorbed it essentially, he essentially took his spot in them because I will say, the rock is no.
Speaker 2:Arnold dwayne johnson is actually a cronenberg of an amalgamation of people just souls into one.
Speaker 1:He's brendan fraser and arnold wrapped in the same thing. He's got the comedy of brendan fraser and he's got the physicality as arnold. Wow yeah, we crushed it. So what do you got for the bad? Uh?
Speaker 2:there are some. There are some silly parts, you know, like the slipping on the magazine, like just some of those, not really a whole lot. And calling someone a monkey and an Oompa Loompa yeah, maybe that's a bit ugly, very good.
Speaker 1:Definitely. Yeah, that's probably definitely ugly man. For my bad, I picked the score of this film, the like electric guitar score of it. I'm like this is supposed to be an action adventure and every time it's like I'm like, dude, like this is not the score that we should be using. It's definitely an early 2000 score where it's like oh, we watched this movie, Obviously saw movies like snatch and saw and was like let's edit it and make cool soundtracks and it's like this never stood out to me at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if any time when I was recognizing it I was like this movie is being ruined by the score. But yeah, so I don't know. Just get a better score next time, guys.
Speaker 2:I didn't even notice it because it was so bad, I guess, or I was just indifferent to it.
Speaker 1:It just kept annoying me.
Speaker 1:I riffs, they just pulled out a drawer full of background action movie, yeah, soundtrack. Yeah, it sounds like it's just. Yeah, they just went on the internet like freemusiccom. Uh, so I'm assuming you're ugly is the oompa loompas and uh, yeah, I think so, mine was a. It's a movie of the times. Early 2000s wasn't the best time for movies. Sure, I feel like, uh, late 2000s wasn't the best time for movies. Sure, I feel like, uh, late 2000s started crushing. But just felt like we were in this weird period where we're like we had new technology in cinema and we're just trying to speed up the movies a lot by editing, and it just seemed like we're in like new metal era and scores aren't as good. They always want to use guitars and just doesn't fully work for me. Um, the movie's still good, but it's just like you could. If this was made like eight years later, I'd be like man. This would have been this would have been probably.
Speaker 2:I do want to be clear that I think what I mean. I don't really care if you call someone an oompa loompa, yeah, like I don't give a shit about the oompa opulence.
Speaker 1:But they were small people of color in another planet and a white guy was calling them. That just doesn't work, you know and obviously you can't call people of color monkeys, right very bad, racist people.
Speaker 2:I think it was just a poor choice to go with. Name calling is what kind of made this guy evil? Yeah, because well, it's like they made him too likable with name calling is what kind of made this guy evil?
Speaker 1:I mean he has? Yeah, because well, it's like they made him too likable. Maybe it's like you made the racist guy who essentially is enslaving people funny and kind of likable by making him Christopher Walken and it's just like, ah, gotta make him bad with some it's like he's funny and every time he's on screen it's great, like, ah Gotta make him bad with some.
Speaker 1:It's like he's funny and every time he's on screen it's great, but then it's just like man he's doing. How do we make everyone hate him? He's doing terrible stuff, Okay, it's just like he's like enslaving people. This is the worst, so we'll go to the fine. I put the Dawson like she's. She's great, amazing.
Speaker 1:Christopher Walken doesn't do much anymore but yeah, I just feel like the stars in this stars in this movie and, like all of them, age well, I feel like, except Sean Williams Scott, even though he does role models a little bit after this, which is probably like what I think. He's probably the that or American Pie is the funniest in though we did watch old school yesterday. And when it gets to the scene where he's, he, uh, the scene where frank will ferrell's character shoots himself for the sleeping dart he's like yes, yes oh bro, that's wild.
Speaker 1:But there's my favorite part of that scene, the very funny scene. There's a part where he's like talking about how powerful it is and it's like, yeah, yeah, if this, if this big guy gets a, gets a little riled up and it's a miniature pony and then, like he takes the, he takes the reins of the horse and kind of jerks on it a little bit and the horse breaks loose. He's like, yeah, you calm down, something that's so funny about just his facial. He's like wearing a jean jacket with like the arms cut off?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it looks awesome.
Speaker 1:We're going to do old school soon. That movie is hilarious. There's going to be a lot of the ugly in that movie, but yeah, anything else for the fun. No, we're going to move to our next category, the double feature. It's where we recommend a movie to go along with this movie. I think we both kind of have the same movie Romancing the Stone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you haven't seen it at this point.
Speaker 1:But I feel like it would be a great Romancing the Stone's better, I would say Danny DeVito fucking crushes that movie.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it's just a good movie and it's so similar to this, but also love.
Speaker 1:There's really no like love interest in this one yeah, because it's like they all seem like they want to be into rosario dawson's character, but they're like but we're not gonna do that in this film, which was kind of refreshing, you know. Yeah, it wasn't just like two guys lusting over this one girl.
Speaker 1:It's like, no, we have things important here that in real life would not be. We would not be focusing on this one girl if this was real life, because we're like we're all about to die Versus Romancing the Stone, where the whole time he's constantly getting in trouble, but they're like we're falling in love. Yeah, I love that movie though. Romancing the Stone. It's so good, it rips All right, and that's our coverage on this movie this week.
Speaker 2:We've done it again, masterpiece Okay.
Speaker 1:So I kind of either want to do Minority Report or War of the Worlds. Fuck yeah, man, which one would you want to do? You want to do like an alien disaster. Think of Tom.
Speaker 2:Cruise in the sense of.
Speaker 1:They're both Steven Spielberg, maybe Tom Cruise flies.
Speaker 2:Tom Cruise spies, tom Cruise Ali, tom Cruise aliens yeah, I don't know. I would fucking love Minority Report yeah, you want to do that one then, but War of the Worlds is pretty good too, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:Hmm, all right, pick a number. One and two, two and one. Okay, that was War of the Worlds, so we're doing War of the Worlds. I love War of the Worlds. I feel like it's a Steven Spielberg's like. When you think of his 2000 movies you know they got like Minority Report. Catch Me, if you Can. War of the Worlds, like those are it. And Munich, have you seen Munich? Yeah, that's a really good one. Crazy sex scene at the end. It's wild. I feel like those four movies kind of get lost a little bit, like when you talk about Steven Spielberg's filmography. You know Jurassic Park, schindler's List, jaws, like that was his earlier stuff. And then when he gets his later stuff or his mid career stuff, I feel like they're not talked about enough, but they're so good they're all really good.
Speaker 1:They're all very solid and I can't wait to talk about War of the Worlds. I watched that movie so much in high school. It just aliens does that and I love that. You get like a lot of the start of the apocalypse type situation, the ending I have. I can't wait to talk about the ending because I do not like a lot of elements of the ending, but I can't wait to discuss it. I'm so excited to rewatch War of the Worlds. Fuck yeah, man, you got Dakota Fanning just screaming her songs out.
Speaker 2:Did you ever read the book?
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually, because I have like all of that guy's books, like a huge collection of his books. I like the movie more than the book. Did you ever listen to? Did you ever To?
Speaker 2:to uh, did you ever to the radio state that played, that played that when people killed themselves, aliens are real, we're out of here. I've never heard that before I never listened.
Speaker 1:I've listened to a little bit because we learned about it in like films, film school and stuff like that or like communication classes.
Speaker 2:That'd be a fun thing to listen to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a short story maybe I will, whenever I'm gonna, because I'm getting my wisdom teeth out in two days and I'm gonna be like drugged up. Maybe I'll just take whatever pain pills are gonna give me and just kind of listen to war of the worlds. Natalie comes home from work.
Speaker 2:I'm like you boarded up the entire house I'm high on fentanyl or whatever they're gonna give me, but they're here. I don't think they're gonna go that hard.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't I don't know what painkillers they give you for your wisdom teeth extractions, fentanyl's for like back surgery. Oh, gotcha, that's what like they inject you with whenever you do like a spinal thing, right?
Speaker 2:Not really sure, but I know that they do. Fentanyl usually comes in other pills or like patches, and they probably do like inject it. Oh okay, I don't know. I interned at an orthopedic surgeon's office one summer.
Speaker 1:Did you yeah? Oh Well, I guess, when we get into medical facts about War of the.
Speaker 1:Worlds, we know who to come to. No, no, all right. Well, that's going to wrap our discussion on the Rundown. I hope you enjoyed it and hope you rewatched it and enjoyed yourself down. I hope you enjoyed it and hope you rewatched it and enjoyed yourself. This is kind of one of those movies where I was like that'd be fun to do on the podcast, something like we recommend a movie that people probably haven't watched in a while or maybe have never watched, and it's just kind of like this lost film in cinema. I really enjoyed it.
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