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Aliens
What happens when you mix a groundbreaking sci-fi sequel with a behind-the-scenes drama worthy of its own movie? Get ready for an adrenaline-pumping deep dive into James Cameron's "Aliens," where we break down everything from Newt's iconic lines to the legendary pitch that landed Cameron the director's chair. We'll tackle the burning question: Does the director’s cut stand tall over the theatrical version? We’ve got you covered, and then some, by mulling over speculative crossovers and sharing intriguing budget and production tidbits.
Fasten your seatbelts as we chart the evolution of James Cameron's illustrious career, spotlighting his knack for strong female leads and the commanding presence of Sigourney Weaver's Ripley. We'll dish on the camaraderie among the cast and Sigourney's personal connection to her character, adding layers of emotional depth to the narrative. This episode isn't just about space marines and xenomorphs; it's about authentic portrayals, military realism, and the strategic brilliance that Cameron brings to the screen, making "Aliens" a cinematic classic.
Journey behind the scenes to discover the tumultuous production process, from Cameron’s clashes with the British crew to Sigourney Weaver’s initial reluctance to return. Witness how Cameron's action-packed script and unyielding direction added layers of tension and excitement. And don't miss our rewatch reflections, from Ripley's daring encounters to the jaw-dropping Queen Xenomorph battle, as well as the broader impact of the "Alien" franchise. Whether you're a die-hard fan or new to the series, this episode promises a thrilling exploration of one of sci-fi's most enduring legacies.
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Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a movie podcast, where every week we recommend a movie for you to watch and then come back here and listen to us discuss. I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, I'm Dakota. It'll be night soon and they mostly come out at night Mostly.
Speaker 2:Because this week we recommend.
Speaker 1:Aliens, aliens.
Speaker 3:Did a pretty good job on that little like is it her accent or not her accent?
Speaker 1:It's like do I make it kind of American or more British, because we don't know what she is, such a pretty little girl, jesse.
Speaker 3:And my girlfriend immediately. You are a cucumber. Cucumber, remember, I am a cucumber. A girlfriend immediately was like worst acting ever. I was like she's a child, leave her alone.
Speaker 1:She's been through a lot. She's not the worst actor in the movie, it's the woman pilot. Her lines were so dry and so like weird.
Speaker 3:I didn't really care, because she's such a throwaway character.
Speaker 1:I didn't really like yeah, but like in terms of like the worst acting in the movie but she did such a good job in the worst acting.
Speaker 2:Some could say it's Bill Praxin.
Speaker 3:I love Bill Praxin because the thing is is there's a guy at work who's former military and he's kind of the typical. Like I was in the military and he's a pretty tough dude and that like he loved his military days and stuff and he reminds me of his attitude, of that. It's like he is the typical guy.
Speaker 1:That's I want to start this conversation off. So there's a legend on how this movie came to be, right? So during the pitch meeting of this movie, they wanted James Cameron and the facts I'll have a little bit later about how they got James Cameron, why they wanted him. But so cause he hadn't even made terminator yet, so he hadn't even. He only made piranha 2, which is a terrible movie. That's where the piranha can fly now. Awesome, I mean, just say that I did not know this. The tremors three line they fly now. They fly now. Um, but so the thing is apparently, you know, they have everybody, I guess, at fox or or whatever, and James Cameron comes in, he goes onto a board and he writes down alien and then, plus, he puts in it.
Speaker 1:He puts an S after it, but then he kind of like, looks at the people.
Speaker 4:Everybody's like genius.
Speaker 1:Well, no, even better. After he puts the S down, he turns, looks at everybody, turns back to the board, puts two lines in it to make it a dollar sign, and he got the job. Turns back to the board, puts two lines in it to make it a dollar sign, and he got the job. What I love it, it's true.
Speaker 3:It's so hard when you talk about this movie. There's Alien and then Aliens. Did you watch the Aliens movie? Which one? I think it's the best sequel title that there's ever been, the only one that might the Dark Knight's a good title too I do gotta say that's from after watching this again, because after we did a alien, I went on a binge a few months later and I watched all of them and watching this one again I was like, yeah, I think it's settled now I prefer the first alien really, yeah, I, I had.
Speaker 1:Actually. I was trying to remember I think I said I liked Alien more on the first pod. Then I was watching this. I was like I don't know man, I feel like I just did some cocaine.
Speaker 4:I have the same feeling. So what was different between the director's cut and the normal not director's cut?
Speaker 3:I've never seen the normal one, so I watched both and I grew up watching the director's cut without realizing it, so you don't see the colony at all.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh yeah, Like where they walk it. I can tell.
Speaker 3:Or when they show up to the ship. I'm pretty sure you don't see that either.
Speaker 4:You don't see that when they roll up to the ship with the car?
Speaker 3:They just don't show it at all. Now I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure see Ripley talking about her daughter and having a kid.
Speaker 1:And it's like such a driving force of her character.
Speaker 3:Exactly that's what threw me up when I was watching it. I was like this is pretty bad, because it makes much more sense.
Speaker 1:And it makes the fight between the mother of the aliens and the mother of humans. Right now, just two moms Trying to make it. Yeah, just two single moms just trying to fight the good fight.
Speaker 3:These damn kids just running around doing whatever the fuck they want.
Speaker 4:And then the Reba remember the song from the show Reba.
Speaker 3:I just got a plus of like when they do the cutaway and they look at the camera the giant queen.
Speaker 4:Who I am is who I want to be. Does everybody know, reba, but me?
Speaker 3:I haven't ever watched it, but I know the opening and stuff We've been watching. The hell out of it Really.
Speaker 4:Is it? Worth it Because, like we see like she's shown up in Young Sheldon and so is Barbara Jean, like they're both in that and then like they're coming out with another.
Speaker 2:Reba show. It's a crossover?
Speaker 4:No, it's not a crossover, it's just the same two actors.
Speaker 1:because there's, I don't know, in the, in the show reba barbara jean's the best, she's just like funny is there a part of reba where, like, the door bell rings and then reba opens the door and it's sigourney weaver and she's like get away from her, you bitch.
Speaker 3:It's like wrong wrong door, wrong studio, or it's a scene like oh, look at the cute baby and has the arms open, wide open, and then just gets a face hugger. It's so cute.
Speaker 2:Say something snarky.
Speaker 1:How much do you guys think that this movie cost to make?
Speaker 3:Well, I know it was on the movies that made us. Oh shit it was. I should have won $100 million.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's his guess.
Speaker 4:What's your guess?
Speaker 1:$25 million dollars. Okay, that's his guess. What's? Your guess 25 mil 18 million dollars. Wow, that's how much that's how much this movie would have cost if it was made today, Jason, Because they would have been like CGI. We have to pay 50 people.
Speaker 2:How much did it?
Speaker 3:cost for Romulus to be made? I have no idea, because they use a lot of practical effects.
Speaker 1:I'm not looking it up.
Speaker 3:I'm just kidding, I will.
Speaker 1:It made $131 million worldwide.
Speaker 3:Opening week Worldwide.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like it should have made a billion. I'm sure it made a lot more now. Did you know?
Speaker 4:the movie Flintstone. The live-action Flintstone movies made over $100 million.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. I mean, everybody got John Goodman and oh it's only $40 million for Alien Romulus. Oh cool, wow, so does that mean it's more likely to be good because it's less of a budget.
Speaker 1:I don't know man. It's more practical effects. It's made by a horror director so they're good with budgets.
Speaker 3:He's using a lot of practical effects. You can literally see him behind the scenes for it. You can see the face of hugger on wheels crawling behind the scenes. Apparently, he said the director wanted it to be so much like the original. They even used old sets to film some of the scenes. Cool, that's awesome.
Speaker 4:Yeah, sometimes when you'd see the aliens running or the face huggers, they're so funny and the face huggers look like the hands from Elden Ring, oh yeah yeah, yeahen Ring Like the hand monsters, yeah yeah, yeah, there's like probably the most frustrating Going back to the DLC
Speaker 3:and I was like man, I know there's going to be fingers. I'm like what is this in the ground? And then I just ran past it and a hand grab. I completely forgot and I screamed.
Speaker 2:What is this? Do you see this?
Speaker 4:Do you see what's chasing me you? You just see it come up in the form of the shocker.
Speaker 1:Oh my God Hell yeah, Wait, the other way. So James Cameron, you know, like probably one of the most profitable film makers ever. He's got three movies in the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time Avatar 1, Avatar 2, Titanic, Like I think they're all three in the top five too. So what is it about James Cameron that like, what is it about his movies, His explosions, His explosions? He is it the fact that he, because his movies are so basic, Like scripts, seem pretty basic. The dialogues is kind of very generic, broad, like dialogue. I think it's his love for the technicality of the craft.
Speaker 3:It shows you what a director who cares about all the other parts can make a basic dialogue into such a great movie. Because, to be honest, I really wish he was not doing Avatar. I wish he was doing other movies. I don't know, those Avatar movies are fun to watch. That second one just rolls in IMA. He was doing other movies.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Those Avatar movies are fun to watch. That second one just rolls in IMAX, though it was.
Speaker 3:It was cool, but you're going to watch it again at home, yeah, In preparation for Avatar 3 in 500 years.
Speaker 1:Well, and it's like his cast. The cast in his movies are always so good.
Speaker 3:He's one of those classic directors who like stays good.
Speaker 1:Maybe there's something comfortable about being basic have y'all seen like the very first Terminator. Yes, I mean it's like how did he like because they're all, relatively, I think, kind of not no names at the point I mean Bill Paxton, wasn't he kind of brought him out and then like the kyle reese character, you know, I didn't know who that guy was. I didn't either and then you have sarah connor. I mean dang and who's the.
Speaker 4:He did the first terminator yeah, he did the first two. What's the? The name of the sergeant of the he's like, not the uh-huh a pwn a pwn. A pwn. I say I've seen him a lot. I've seen him so in so many things, black guy, he's always like a military kind of guy, african-american guy.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah, oh man, he's like my favorite character in the whole movie. I love that guy. I was like hell yeah, If I had a drill sergeant or somebody, I want this guy to be there.
Speaker 3:He's funny and his character they had to draw straight inspiration from Halo.
Speaker 4:For Sergeant Johnson. And that ship is a direct. Because didn't he voice Sergeant Johnson?
Speaker 3:No, he didn't. But he is like Sergeant Johnson has a cigar and he's like, yeah, that's what I like to see, Marines, yeah, so good.
Speaker 1:So here's James Cameron's movies Piranha, tooth, the Spawning Great title, terrible movie the Spawning, the jizzing, the Terminator. Then he did Aliens two years later and then he did Abyss three years later. Y'all seen the Abyss? Yeah, the Abyss goes bro.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's so long. No, I saw it, it's so good. There's another one like maybe it was Leviathan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've confused this dude before.
Speaker 3:I've never seen Abyss then.
Speaker 1:He did Terminator 2 perfect movie. No notes true lies.
Speaker 2:Have y'all seen true lies? No, he did true lies.
Speaker 1:I love that movie it's honestly probably his worst movie he's done, but it's also it's so good which says how good of a director he is, because you have Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Lee Curtis, and then have y'all you get to see her hoo-ha, it's called Titanic.
Speaker 3:What's that?
Speaker 1:about. I think it's about a boat falls in love with a girl, and then he spent the rest of his life obsessing over underwater after Titanic and then he finally did Avatar in 2009. So he didn't do a movie from 1997 to 2009.
Speaker 3:Well, he made a billion from Titanic, didn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then Avatar made a billion, and then he didn't do anything until 2022 where he did avatar the way of water still haven't also made a billion.
Speaker 3:Well, avatar, the first one held that highest ranking for a long time.
Speaker 1:It took, uh, in the game a whole franchise just to beat his avatar, and then he said oh yeah, well, I'm just to re-release Avatar and take it back, because I think he still has two Tars. And another thing that I really like about this so you know, I feel like whenever especially around this time.
Speaker 1:If you had like a female lead, it always has to be so like pushed in your face where everybody's like she't do this, blah, blah, blah, she's a girl. Something I love about this is at first the crew's skeptical of ripley, not because she's a woman. In this world, like, women are just as badass as the men. Vasquez is what I'm saying except that one guy, drake, who's totally in love with her and is constantly just be like yeah you're badass girl so there was.
Speaker 3:let me touch you a little bit, Let me bump into you the tall, pale dude right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Drake.
Speaker 3:So if you, I was watching, I was like you know, I'm wondering if they're together and I guess he let it slip, or maybe I misheard. It's when they're getting suited up with the weapons and they're talking to each other.
Speaker 1:He's like all right, babe like almost like yeah, it's hard to tell, but he definitely is into her and it does seem like she might be a little. It's mainly whenever they're like holding their guns and looking at each other. It's like I'll pick you after you're done. It's like they're definitely like having a dick measuring contest together.
Speaker 1:But what I was gonna say is that something I love about this is at first they're skeptical, they call like Snow White because she looks she's pale and frail and she comes in like the big globe, yeah, the, the pod, yeah, the clear thing and she, but then like oh, a little bit before halfway through the movie, or halfway through the movie she's calling all the shots.
Speaker 1:Everybody's like it's essentially when she's like let's blow this fucking planet up and hicks is like wow I'm, that's what all the marines wanted to do from the beginning yeah, and they're like oh wait, no, this like willing to kill here and whenever she puts on the mech suit to like they find out that she can handle huge loads.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, she can. Yeah, when they see her put that thing on.
Speaker 1:Higgs is just like A-Pone's like hell yeah, he is chewing.
Speaker 3:I have never seen anyone in movies like that go ham on a cigar like he was. He was straight up. You always hear people talk about chewing on cigars. You never really see it. He was chewing on that thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, old boy was like oh man, I'm not going to smoke it, I'm just going to chew it in half and swallow it. So we'll hop into a little bit of facts about the movie.
Speaker 4:I don't know I'm doing it like that Fact me baby.
Speaker 1:So Sigourney Weaver's mother features in this film.
Speaker 4:As her daughter. Is it the-? Yes, oh, okay, the picture of the daughter.
Speaker 1:There's supposed to be apparently a scene, so in Cameron's original script the setup with Amy was different. Rather than her having died, amy was alive and Ripley makes contact but is rejected by Amy, who says Ripley abandoned her by traveling into space.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm glad they didn't go with that. Yeah, it'd be a little bit too much.
Speaker 1:It's like oh I'm sorry, did you fight an alien, amy? I was working Amy Well, she was supposed to be there at her 11th birthday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but she had to go do her job and she can't help it.
Speaker 4:But she floated through space for like 40 years. You know the 57 alien isolation game that came out yeah that's her daughter that she plays.
Speaker 3:It's a prequel, like to show what happened.
Speaker 1:Oh snap, I got to, I got to the part where you get to the humans like you're running away from humans and.
Speaker 4:I was like this is way scary.
Speaker 1:I didn't even get to alien, so, cameron so, cameron, he shot the film out of sequence, which is actually what most people do. Um, I think it might have been a little less normal back then, uh, but what he did he essentially the last thing he shot was them coming out of the pods and being friendly to each other because he wanted everybody to have good chemistry during that, because that was the thing about the first alien is that everybody loves how all the actors are like buddy, buddy and how natural it feels. Yeah, this one, I would say, is less natural, mainly because of the dialogue and because they're constantly being like hey, we're tough, am I right?
Speaker 3:We're a bunch of hard asses, but we're fun. Well, jason, you were in the military, don't? Is this how Marines?
Speaker 1:acted. Is this how?
Speaker 4:Marines acted, some people. It's been much talk, you're an army.
Speaker 1:I didn't know if you'll ever cross paths.
Speaker 3:I mean to be fair. It's people who are 18. And some people go into it because they're like I want to be a badass.
Speaker 4:Yes, and you're going to have that mentality.
Speaker 3:It's the reason it's there.
Speaker 4:There's a lot of toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that they only had enough for the budget. So each capsule that they get out of whenever all the crew is getting out the Marines and stuff those capsules cost Capsules. Those capsules cost $4,300 to make. So they're only able to produce four of them and you know there's like 12 of them. So they use mirrors to like, reflect and make it to the world where they looks like 12. You can totally tell if you take the screenshot of how, like where the mirror would kind of be.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you want to see Jason Show and tell.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I can't see.
Speaker 4:That's all enough. That's all enough.
Speaker 1:That's so good, that's how that's how you know, you didn't have to do CGI, you just put a damn mirror up.
Speaker 3:That's why things last and look so much better. Even my girlfriend was like, wow, that looks pretty good. I mean the ship don't look that good, but all the other stuff in between is like, yeah, that's what happens when you use real sets.
Speaker 1:A movie, that's how looks so good and you have to use real sets. This because the aliens just blend in so well with the sets. It's amazing. Every time an alien pops down I was like I knew that. I knew that was one. Gets me.
Speaker 3:I do gotta say I do not like this design of the aliens. I prefer the first. Are they all tubey? Well, not tubey, they have all texture and bony and stuff. I know it's supposed to be closer to their life cycle.
Speaker 1:Their original form but.
Speaker 3:I like the OG form better.
Speaker 1:I think it makes it look better than the original in terms of filming-wise, because I think the other one it was so skinny and kind of lanky and these are kind of like that too. But I think they bulked them up so that whenever you see them running and stuff, it's not as uh, obviously skinny guy in a suit, that's where I feel like they also like jumping on uh walls and crawling on walls this is where you get a lot of their verticality and everything well it's the difference, I think, in alien and why this one.
Speaker 1:Like they're able to do so much more is well for one. They have more space. Like you know, you see them in bigger sets and areas where the first one is just a tiny ship and there's just tiny hallways and stuff and you know you got a bigger budget and they learn from the first one how to move more. But really you don't even see them that much in this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it was supposed to be the scary. You see flashes usually a lot more than their bodies.
Speaker 1:Usually if they cut to them they're like, okay, but that's I believe I read that's because you know they only had, I think, a few suits and they couldn't. They didn't have enough budget to make all the ones that you see so like whenever they're crawling in the ceiling, just like one of the funnest shots of the whole movie, and you're like, holy fuck, we got a rat problem. And you only see like four or five and they have to, so they have to like show it and then kind of like tilt away because they just didn't have enough and they didn't want it to look like people in suits, obviously, which I don't care as long as because later.
Speaker 1:They just keep making them CG in every single one what was the last one Covenant?
Speaker 3:yeah, you see the one. It's all CG. It's like I'm just not that scared of you, like I just don't. This is a whole CG scene and I'm not, I'm just not feeling as it's like.
Speaker 1:I will say the little guy that's like on their ship when they land and it kind of like runs out proto alien or whatever love that guy, that guy. It's because they're when they're small and they're fast. That's scary because you're like, it's because you can't, because it's harder to like hit and like run, and it's like. That's why the face huggers are so scary.
Speaker 4:It's like a spider except big and it's got a tail, and it's like it wants to date you, but not talk about toxic masculinity so the knife trick?
Speaker 1:It's obvious, probably, how they filmed it. Sped it up. Yeah, they sped it up, but if you look in the background you can see Epone laughing hysterically and he's like going so fast laughing. But also the knife thing wasn't in the original script and they just kind of had the idea on set as they were doing it and they didn't tell Bill Paxton that it was going to happen so his real surprise and shock was real.
Speaker 3:What are you doing man? What are you doing man?
Speaker 1:This stupid face.
Speaker 3:It's funny because imagine that because he's an android and he's going so fast.
Speaker 1:It's so funny. When we were talking about Twister I was like he's such a blue collar type actor, you know, and I android and he's going so fast. You know, it's so funny. When we're talking about Twister I was like he's such a blue collar type actor, you know, and I was like he's in movies where, like blue collar and this is definitely like a blue collar type of movie, where it's like hey, we just got some guys and they're just out here doing stuff. It's funny that he went from like being such an over actor and then, like you think about watching him in Twister and it's like no, he's just like a regular guy and he can do that. But if you watch Terminator, he's so because he's like the punk at the beginning, he's like the leader of the punks at the very beginning and he is so overacting. It's crazy. I love it and he's full of milk. Yeah, he is no, that's the other guy, that's Lance.
Speaker 1:Hendrickson? That, that's Lance Hendrickson. That's old pumpkin head. Yeah, so Cameron wasn't a certainty to get the directing job. We'll go into that now. So prior to Aliens, jane Cameron had worked as a model maker for Roger Corman and as an art director on Battle Beyond the Stars and Escape from New York One of the best movies ever made.
Speaker 4:I thought you were going to say Battlestar Galactica.
Speaker 1:No, that was a little after his time so I think I don't know. So, with a huge success of Alien, fox were very keen on a sequel, but it was delayed until 1983. And at that time James Cameron was sending his script for the Terminator to studios trying to find writing work. Walter Heal, who was the executive producer of Aliens, read the Terminator and said that is our guy. When approached, cameron was immediately interested in writing aliens. He later said what drew me in was what Ridley set in motion the creation of a world, a blue collar future, with recognizable characters. I knew I couldn't outdo it but for pure shock. But I knew I would do white knuckle action. That's where aliens came from. He's not a horror director, he's an action director. Well, that's what this movie is?
Speaker 2:it's an action movie which is probably why I prefer the first one a little bit more.
Speaker 3:It's more of that hints horror. You never know what's happening, but I do gotta say that heartbeat monitor or sensor whatever it is the pool.
Speaker 1:That's cool, oh yeah, and, like you know, I got the surround sounds in my walls. It's so nerve-wracking the noise because it sounds so real. It sounds like it's in your house and you're like what the fuck is going on, which is exactly the reaction you should have when watching the movie where it's like dude, they're near.
Speaker 3:They're everywhere when that was happening.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 3:Oh, your AC. All through the first half of that movie my AC did not turn off because it was, I guess, really hot last night. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Could not barely enjoy the sound. So Cameron wrote the script and some downtime on the Terminator. So he was writing the treatment for the film called Alien 2 at this point but didn't have the time to write the full screenplay because his packed working schedule on the Terminator. However, the start date for the Terminator was pushed back nine months because Arnold Schwarzenegger had a contractual obligation to make Conan the Bark Destroyer. In that nine-month period Cameron wrote the screenplay for Aliens. Then, after the Terminator was released to a fantastic response, the studio hired Cameron to direct Aliens as well.
Speaker 4:Snake in here it's just like Quite a mouthful.
Speaker 1:Well, my mouth is dry as hell. All right. So James Cameron he is known for being a dick.
Speaker 3:He is. I don't know nothing about him Especially on his sets.
Speaker 1:He's just kind of like we will work long hours, we will get this done and we'll do it the way I want. So they filmed this in Britain, which is a very relaxed and laid back place to film. So we'll go into some of the things that he did not like.
Speaker 1:Oh no, so Aliens was filmed mainly it was filmed mainly at Pinewood Studio in England and Cameron and the many British crew did not always get along. So the crew in Cameron's eyes were lazy. We despise them and they despise us. He later said they were working to a tight time scale and the crew would stop for a break several times a day. A lady would come in with a trolley with tea and cheese rolls. Fuck yeah, man. One day Cameron was so incensed that he trashed the trolley, oh fuck. So another instance the crew would stop work every Friday afternoon for a lottery draw where the winner would take home a prize of about 400 euros. A lottery draw where the winner would take home a prize of about 400 euros. One of the crew running the lottery came up to cameron with the 10 and said do you want to put anything in for the draw? Jim cameron shouted at him fuck the draw.
Speaker 1:Oh man, so uh, more golly the crew didn't respect the inexperienced cameron on set and would ignore instructions.
Speaker 1:Cameron had to fire his assistant director, cracknell, derek Cracknell, as well as the director of photography, dick Bush for refusing to light scenes to Cameron's briefs and to try and convince the crew he had the talent for the job, cameron arranged a screening of the Terminator for the cast and crew. The cast turned up, but the crew didn't. On the final day of shooting Cameron, the cast turned up, but the crew didn't. On the final day of shooting, cameron stood up in front of the entire crew to make what everybody thought was going to be an emotional farewell speech, and this is what he said. This has been a long and difficult shoot, fraught by many problems, but the one thing that kept me going through it all was the certain knowledge that one day I would drive out the gate of Pinewood and never come back, and that you sorry bastards would still be here Dang, I never knew anything about this because anytime I've seen him.
Speaker 4:I was like he just seems like he's kind of just you know, normal.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Goddamn. So Sigourney Weaver was hesitant about coming back, like because he's such a dick. Well, no, she just didn't. I just don't think she wanted to do another one. Well, well, well, she was very hesitant about returning. At first she already rejected offers from Fox to do an Alien sequel, thinking Ripley would be poorly written, and she was rightly proud of Alien and didn't want to harm its legacy.
Speaker 1:Then however, she read James Cameron's script and that changed everything. Weaver was hugely impressed with the quality of Cameron's writing and loved the mother-daughter bond between Ripley and Newt, and because of that she agreed to do the film. Weaver said I liked how Jim managed to convey the rage inside Ripley for what she'd lost without losing sight of the character as a woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4:Very nice. And then she became like the alien queen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's the queen of aliens.
Speaker 3:You know the guy who did like you ever seen District 9? Yeah, the guy who did like you ever seen district nine? Yeah, so the guy who directed that he had originally was attached to making his own alien movie when fox, and it was supposed to be a sequel to aliens and get rid of alien three and four and it was gonna have sigourney, weaver and hicks and he's like all acid burn and they're.
Speaker 3:I don't know the full story but I know I saw some of the concept art and the concept art had like the xenomorphs and they had like the government had maybe even somehow to put like face things on them to try and control them and that was like part of the story and I was like well, he makes some amazing movies for like like cg effect.
Speaker 3:I was like if he made one I would be all down for it and I wish they would have continued to do that because I would have loved to see corporate controlled xenomorphs, that's what they wanted.
Speaker 4:Do you think other alien species? Look at xenomorphs. They're like. They just make it harder on us. You know we can't be as cool as them they're like the jocks, like hey, what's up.
Speaker 3:Or they're like the because they're so skinny. They're like the uh basketball crew because they're like the cool basketball team and predators the football team because they're so bulky they just, they come in here and they take our women and then they leave quite literally so the face huggers were a great practical effect.
Speaker 1:Obviously, the face huggers are more active in aliens than alien and as we see them running, jumping and attacking crew members because of the extra mobility, a rubber model wouldn't do the trick. Stan Winston was the effects supervisor on the film and his team created functional facehuggers with movable fingers. Stan Winston worked on like a ton of movies.
Speaker 2:I think he worked on Star.
Speaker 1:Wars and stuff like that. The fake hugger that runs towards Ripley had a wheel on the bottom and when it was rolled along the floor its legs would move to look like it was running. Then to achieve the moment in the med lab where the facehugger runs along the floor, jumps on the table and then attacks, originally three shots were required. They filmed the facehugger running along the floor, they filmed pulling it off the table, then played the footage in reverse. Then they put the facehugger on the table and pulled it towards the camera. These shots were cut together and editing.
Speaker 4:That's awesome. It looked like thing from Adam's family. Yeah, I'm the hallway, the wheel.
Speaker 1:It's here. It's like the how the fingers. I love hand. Was it color? Cause no thing yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause it it it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It's a. It's a long one. So so the alien queen had to have so many people operating in it. Um, so there was initial talk of bringing hr geiger, who designed the creatures for alien, back to do more design work. However, cameron decided against it. There was only one major design to be done the alien queen, and cameron created her herself.
Speaker 1:Cameron passed his design for the queen over to stan winston and told him he wanted to achieve what he wanted to achieve. Winston said, when Jim came to me with this idea of putting two guys inside a giant alien suit, I thought this man is out of his mind. Nothing like that had been done before. But I realized if he imagined it, we could probably do it and do it. They did. Winston and his team built a basic mechanism as proof of concept from where from there they built the whole creature all 14 feet over. Bringing the queen to life would take 14 to 16 operators. It's a big woman, and so here's here's some of the ways it is. So she was supported on a crane arm to move the entire puppet. Her body was hydraulically controlled. Her legs were operated by puppeteers, her neck was hydraulically controlled. The tilt and turn of her head was hydraulically controlled. Her face, lips, jaw and tongue were all independently controlled by cables. Winston called the Alien Queen the most complex construction he's ever done.
Speaker 4:That's awesome. That's great. They should have got the puppeteer that does Elmo. He's like eight feet tall. I hear a hiss.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get you now.
Speaker 1:Tickle me, oh my God, all right, so we're running down the cast before we hop in the film, so obviously done by James Cameron. Legend Old Big, I think. They call him Big Dick, jim, I think is what they call him.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, his movies prove it, I guess. So Sigourney Weaver, obviously Rippley. Michael Biehn is Corporal Hicks, carrie Hinn is Newt, and this is like her only movie she's ever done. She got out of the business after. Paul Reiser is Burke, not Burke. I wish he was a good guy. Lance Hendrickson is Bishop, who, because of the lines on his face I feel like looks like an android.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:And he's so good. He's so good at playing a robot. Yeah, I thought it was pretty awesome. It was honestly next to Ripley. I was like this might be the best performance in the movie. Also, ripley was nominated for Academy Award for this, which is I don't know if you know is hella wild, I believe. Bill Paxton is Hudson. William Hope is Lieutenant Gorman Bitch-ass Gorman.
Speaker 2:Jeanette.
Speaker 1:Goldstein is Vasquez, al Matthews is Epone, mark Ralston is Private Drake and the rest don't really have lines. So yeah, sigourney Reaver was nominated for Best Actress in a Leading Role, which is insane, because no one's ever been a movie like this, or never in a million years. She does such a good job. She is so good dude in the background, her background acting like when someone touches her. She's always like flinching in the background.
Speaker 3:It's like I never noticed her like acting to me is just so like I would say like natural. I don't feel like it's one of those ones I could watch. I don't feel like you're acting Like this is a real character, yeah.
Speaker 4:Fuck yeah, dude, and I've never found her very attractive, Neither have I, neither have I. She's just very handsome yeah.
Speaker 3:She, my girlfriend, was saying like well, she has short hair and stuff. She's like, I don't know, I'm getting like a Michael Jackson vibe, right now. I was like I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4:I don't know, but people always talk about how hot she was. She's not. She's a badass. I guess.
Speaker 1:I had a crush on her as a kid, so I guess I still have that inside me, oh, okay. Want to add something else. No, I don't know. I guess it was just kind of like whoa, he's hella cool.
Speaker 3:Well, I do like strong women. It's like my favorite character, just like because I watch anime. You want to be stepped on Hell. Yeah, I'm not doing cutaways over here.
Speaker 1:Get it All right guys. No safe word. Y'all ready to go to planet LV15, whatever?
Speaker 3:LV426.
Speaker 1:Yeah, All right, we start off with an alien's title. It's not as good as the first alien, because I was like, oh, I wonder how they're going to do the titles, because the first one's so great where it's just like slowly revealing lines and then it's like it's saying alien, this one is just kind of a blue you know, and then it just kind of becomes aliens, it turns into a light yeah, it kind of looks like a pussy it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4:There's a lot of genital reference in this movie.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you've seen Facehuggers and stuff.
Speaker 1:But, pocket pussy from outer space. All movies should secretly be sexual. They are. That's my rule. It's a secret sauce. Also, this movie is just like a better version of Starship Troopers, right.
Speaker 4:Hell yeah, space Marines. I mean it's. Was it the first Space Marine movie?
Speaker 1:I don't know it might have been actually I don't know, I mean I'm sure there's like there's a billion like fifties, black and white space movies that we've probably never seen that had.
Speaker 3:Well, they're more like 2001, a space odyssey. There's no Marines, though no, but I'm saying they're more like. I'm saying like more space movies were more the tension of being in space like the first Alien movie.
Speaker 1:Are you also surprised, when y'all rewatched this, that how slow-paced it was? A little bit, isn't it weird? Slow-paced I never remember that Well, especially a director's cut, because there's extra stuff, mainly at the beginning, but there's a lot. You don't really get an Alien until an hour into the film.
Speaker 3:Good point, but I was having fun watching all the other stuff. I don't dislike it.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying when I think of aliens versus alien, I'm thinking aliens, the slow burn, this is the fast pace and I'm like, well, there's really not action to like last 40 minutes of the whole movie.
Speaker 3:Right, there's a lot of like walking well, there's a lot of the you see a lot of the other part of like the world that they're in and like the future.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's kind of cool and.
Speaker 3:I'm like I'm just enjoying seeing all this cool stuff like the power loader and everything else.
Speaker 1:And I was thinking like, if we don't have that right now, we were doing something wrong we are and I think it's while you know, we did alien earlier and we did aliens now and I, when I watch both of them, I'm like wow, this inspired so many movies and like the language of film and visuals, especially when I'm thinking, you know they first get to the colony and they're walking in and how it's shot, where they're on like a steadicam and you see everybody kind of running in front of cameras getting to their positions as they move forward. And I was thinking I was like this has inspired so many movies to shoot. They're like war movies and stuff like this inspired so many movies to shoot. They're like war movies and stuff like this and I was like wow both.
Speaker 1:Alien inspired like how horror movies would work for the rest, alongside with Jaws, of course, fuck yeah, for like the rest of time. And now so did Aliens with action movies and whenever, because you can't watch a military movie and not be like wow, they obviously liked Aliens just just by the way that it's shot and how they film it. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 3:Well, I wish he would stop doing Avatar and come out and show directors this is how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1:Avatar fucking rules the second one.
Speaker 3:The first one's fine.
Speaker 1:Dude.
Speaker 3:You say it rules, but you only say it because you watched it in IMAX 3D yes, and that's my viewing experience, and it rules.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, the second story is way better than the first story. I feel like yeah because they're blue people. The whole time and also the last action. Sequence of it, from where the whales are attacking to the end of the movie, is probably the best action we've had. I've seen it. I can't watch it now, dude. How far into the movie are we movie titles, so alright, we get the titles. We meet up with Ellen Ripley. She's rescued after drifting through space in stasis for 57 years.
Speaker 1:It's cool fucking pods full of cat shit. Yeah, I like the robot cutting the door, though yeah it was like wow it's so practical and it looked like it could be a real thing.
Speaker 3:Well, it would make sense, because it would properly cut it more precise than a human would, and you could probably have hotter temperatures because you don't have someone there.
Speaker 1:It's safer in case something comes out Holding the barrel. When y'all first started this movie, did y'all think, man, I sure hope Jonesy's still okay. Yes, because that's exactly what I thought. And then when I because I watched it to take notes I was like crap, I don't remember where Jonesy is. I hope he's okay. And then Natalie immediately asked, like when it started. She's like where's Jonesy?
Speaker 2:And I was like we all just got to know where this cat is.
Speaker 1:Especially now that we have a cute little ginger cat. So she wakes up in a hospital bed and she is reunited with Jonesy. There he is, and then he was brought in by Burke. She's back out. Yeah, burke comes and talks to her. She's in shock when Burke tells her that how long she's been in space. And I like Burke, he's super. He seems like a good guy, he seems super sympathetic and when I first watched it I was like, oh, this guy's, he's probably going to be OK. Now, rewatching it, there's so many hints that he's going to screw her over through this entire movie. He hides it so well. But the actor is so good at being friendly and seeming to be on Ripley's side that I'm like hell. Yes, this is going to be the champion for Ripley.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because everybody's going to think she's crazy, because they want you to think that the synthetic is the bad guy. Yeah. And that's the twist.
Speaker 3:It's so like I was sitting here thinking about that scene because you know, back then you didn't know how movies were, like you didn't have anything spoiled. So could you imagine being in theater and she's just waking up and then you think a chest, she's about to get a chest burster coming out and you're just like I got her, I got her. And then that cutaway she wakes up because there's no like preamble it's sitting there hissing at her and you're like, oh no, no, they're doing it.
Speaker 1:It would just be so funny, I mean like if the cat was around. When a chestburster comes out like it immediately starts like chasing it and attacking it?
Speaker 4:Yeah, just like. Has it in the corner.
Speaker 1:Just a dude Just biting it. Alien looks at Sigourney. But, yeah so the chestburster busts out of her chest and then she wakes up. Such a good scene.
Speaker 4:I wonder if there's an ass-hugger race.
Speaker 1:I think that was called wasn't that called? Dreamcatcher, the Stephen King movie.
Speaker 2:It's terrible, it's got.
Speaker 1:Thomas.
Speaker 4:Shane Morgan.
Speaker 1:Freeman.
Speaker 4:It's a terrible movie. It did come out through the butt.
Speaker 1:It was. Yeah, you should watch it. It's a really bad movie. You'll hate it Dream Catcher.
Speaker 3:Why would I hate it? I love good bad movies.
Speaker 1:It's, it's.
Speaker 2:He was on cocaine? I don't know, it's interesting it was one of his cocaine books, I think.
Speaker 4:I thought that the way that they presented the aliens was interesting.
Speaker 1:I mean it's terrifying having to come out here, but you know, so Ripley's is looking at it like a TV screen, looking at some woods. At first it's like is that supposed to be real or is it supposed to be like a CGI like screen?
Speaker 1:and it's just like a projected screen essentially, which I don't know if y'all noticed, throughout the film there's a lot of real projection film. There's a lot of rear projection in this movie to where, instead of using like green screen and stuff, it was just like a screen and they project from behind it the scenery especially when everything's blowing up um, so burke and her talking before they're about to go in and do talk to a bunch of douchebags um, she asked about her daughter, um, and it turns out she died at the age of 66
Speaker 3:and in this time, like, like, in this time frame, like man, I feel like he kind of died a little young there and I love that that Burke is calling her like kiddo and she's like 90 it's funny because when I first watched it I was like, oh, he's like, he's a nice guy, he's got calling her kiddo and stuff.
Speaker 1:But then I realized I was like he's so demeaning to me by doing that and it's the actor. He just like. He says it in such a friendly way that I'm like, oh no, he's a good guy it was immediately off putting a lot of that scene you say they're douchebags.
Speaker 3:To be fair, they're like okay, because like they are doing the typical, like how are we gonna believe you? Because in the we'll just go to the planet, and then it, when they reveal like we have people there, it makes you realize like that's why they wouldn't believe her, because like oh, they've been here for 20 years I was like it makes sense why they're just like now.
Speaker 4:If they hadn't been there, you could have been like okay, well, let's go see shouldn't they have had somebody just catch her up in the past 50 something years, instead of just letting?
Speaker 1:I mean they really just like trapped her. I mean it was a trap in that situation Because like, oh, that planet, yeah, there's actually people there, and it's like couldn't tell me that before I walked in here, burke.
Speaker 3:It's funny to be gone for 57 years and come back, but yeah, technology's not that much different. Like what?
Speaker 4:Yeah, and he probably told them not to have that guy so that he could fuck with her.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So to make the thing even worse, she said she would be home for her 11th birthday to her daughter. The only other thing I have to say about this scene future tech can't get better picture. I always like when.
Speaker 3:I see it. I'm like, well, when I see something like that, that obviously is like low quality. In my head I start to spin like a story. It's like, well, maybe they were like spying on her because they knew about Ripley's connection to the alien and they were like, maybe she knows something yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think they definitely know that there's something on this planet, or at least maybe Burke, for sure.
Speaker 2:The company does.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Because they mentioned the bioweapons one. He's just like I knew it would be here. They had them in tubes, yeah, tubes.
Speaker 1:So she is being debriefed by her employers at the Weyland-Yutani Corporation over the destruction of her ship, the Nostromo. They are skeptical of her claims that an alien killed the ship's crew and forced her to destroy the ship. Classic suits, am I right?
Speaker 3:I mean, can't blame them for not believing?
Speaker 1:so Ripley tries to convince her employees that while she killed the creature, the alien ship itself carried thousands of eggs, and if any of those were to make it their way to Earth, life would come to an end, as these aliens just say, inside of living humans. She is stripped of her officer's license and on probation something I love is when the woman in the place asks a question. It's like did IQs drop with the 57 years? I was gone.
Speaker 2:I specifically said it was a ship, not place. Like asked a question. It's like did iqs drop with a 57?
Speaker 1:years I was gone. I specifically said it was a ship not indigenous to the earth.
Speaker 3:She does such a good job because she's so just feels like it's a genuine person. Of like. I could feel her frustration of like what are you not getting about?
Speaker 4:yes, and this is where. But nobody believes women. Yeah, I mean, that's got to be a natural experience.
Speaker 3:You probably were like having your time of the month and just couldn't think clearly.
Speaker 1:Having her.
Speaker 3:PMS.
Speaker 1:So she learns that in the Zeta Rectuli, the ExoMoon LV426, where the US july, the exomoon lv426, where the uscss nostromo encountered the alien eggs, is now home of the terraforming colony hadley's hope about 60 to 70 families living there for over 20 years to change the planet's atmosphere and make it livable for why would they ever go there?
Speaker 4:yeah?
Speaker 3:well, they terraform, so apparently they isn't it just an asteroid?
Speaker 4:well, it's a moon okay, but they must.
Speaker 3:I don't know exactly what they do, but I guess, since they can like, it probably has a bunch of like minerals and stuff on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But like well, they're just going to make it livable for humans, they're terraforming it, oh God.
Speaker 3:Oh, I missed that part where you just said all that stuff. Could you say it again?
Speaker 4:in the podcast. They had like a lot of confidence in terraforming this planet but they've been there for 20 years already and it still looks like fucking shit.
Speaker 3:Well, it is, but you gotta think they're walking around without spacesuits outside on the ship. So that means it's because of the, the plant because of their terraforming well, yeah, like that plant they have, they say it's like a giant nuclear reactor is producing their air for them and it's enough to nearly cover the whole planet. That makes sense.
Speaker 4:That's kind of cool, until they destroy the ozone or put the ozone on.
Speaker 3:To have a machine that can give you an ozone and give you air is nuts.
Speaker 1:And I love this is when we, after this scene, we cut to like the people on the ship. You got the guy who's like drinking his coffee, like yeah, we got to do this, and but mainly this scene I feel like it's supposed to show you like, oh, these are just regular people on this colony. And then you have the kids running out and playing and it's like, oh shit, there's just some kids playing In the really safe areas, and it's just supposed to like kind of hit you that like, oh crap, this is going to suck if this doesn't go right.
Speaker 1:But also the main thing I think that you're supposed to see here is that they say oh, if we want to like send something to, if we want to ask a question to the superiors, the people at Wayne to Watani or whatever Waylon, waylon Tawny it takes two weeks to receive an answer back, which is important because later in the film would be like oh, we won't get rescued for 17 days.
Speaker 3:I'm surprised honestly that they have not gone back as much. It's like we're going to make a prequel to show what happened to the colonists before they showed up.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, alien Romance is set between one and two. Well, no, I mean, like I know, it's not set with the colony Currently like on there, I was like. I'm so shocked I'd take a short film of that. Yeah, that'd be cool. So one of the exploration groups it's mainly this is Newt and her family. Essentially, they're just going out doing whatever they do Mom and. Pop Salvage.
Speaker 4:Crew.
Speaker 1:So one of the group. They're at the station, they encounter the alien ship and accidentally triggers the breeding process, in which one of the egg hatches and locks itself to the face. How do you trigger the breeding process?
Speaker 4:do you think he gets near an egg? He gets near an egg.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm sure he saw the egg touched it, like they always have to do in these movies.
Speaker 3:Well, now they have air and stuff, they don't have that little layer protecting them. It's probably just like ready like the second they go Very sensitive. Just that woman like she's strong because she carried her husband all the way back, yeah, man.
Speaker 1:And so this ends with it's super windy and like the mom comes out yelling mayday and then you just have Newt starting to scream. What I love about it is like the wind's getting louder and more high-pitched, and so is her scream, so it's like it's kind of going together really well, and I was like, oh hell, yeah, god man's land did y'all do war of the worlds recently?
Speaker 1:yeah, so her screaming versus dakota fanning dakota fanning like made a career because of that he's the best screamer it's literally a joke in scary movie three yep. So when contact is lost with hadley's hope, waylon utani, representative carter burke, uh, and, and Colonel Marine Lieutenant Gorman asked Ripley to accompany Burke and a Colonel Marine unit to investigate the disturbance. I love it. They go in, they knock on the door. She sees it as though Sue just slams it on his face.
Speaker 3:It's nice to see that Gorman lived on from his father.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Was it the same actor? No, Psycho Gorman.
Speaker 1:Oh gotcha, I was like, are you doing the psycho gore man bit? Yes, so, traumatized by encounter with the alien, ripley initially refuses, even after burke says she can pilot again, but relents after experiencing reoccurring nightmares about the creature she makes. Burke promise to destroy and not capture the aliens. He's like no bitch.
Speaker 4:His face is just like yeah.
Speaker 2:And you believe it, but you could just tell in his eyes.
Speaker 3:He's like he blinks. Yeah, you can't blink, doesn't he avoid eye contact with her a lot? When he looks away, he's always like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, it seemed like there was like something going on behind him too, because the way he like kind of looked behind him at the start, where he's like I don't want you to see what's behind me, he's jerking off. Yeah, he's straight up naked. I got a butt plug in me and sadly the worst part of the movie. She turns to Jonesy and says you're staying here and it's like no, but I want the cat the whole time oh, thank god but essentially they replaced Jonesy with a kid, I mean Newt's the Jonesy role.
Speaker 3:Natural progression. I just think Ripley understands you got to save the cat, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4:The only good thing that ever happened to that ship.
Speaker 3:The Jonesy cut coming soon.
Speaker 1:We pan to the spaceship, like we're into the spaceship that now holds all the Marines. We're panning around the ship and we see the power loader and we see all a bunch of weapons, knowing that like wow, this group is ready to go. And then we see everybody sleeping in their pods. Then the cry, cry, cry, cry, cryo, cryo. Chambers open and everybody wakes up. I can't speak, so, um, the marines aren't impressed with the fact that ripley has seen aliens been holding a cigar.
Speaker 1:I love when they wake up out of the chambers they immediately start with like blue, the fact that Ripley has seen aliens, apone's been holding a cigar for a while.
Speaker 3:He literally fell asleep with it in his mouth.
Speaker 1:I love when they wake up out of the chambers they immediately start with like blue collar talk. I don't get paid enough for this shit.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm sure I hate this job. You feel groggy as fuck when you wake up from that and you're like ugh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like wow, I just went to my factory for a second. It also sucks to wake up. I mean essentially, like they're saying all the things we hear every day at our job.
Speaker 4:It also sucks to wake up next to your sergeant who's just like immediately barking orders and is like give me.
Speaker 1:Hudson, played by Bill Paxton, is like. The floor is cold. He's like what. You want me to run the floors for you?
Speaker 3:the way I saw it is like you know, if you take like a Delta, a gummy, and you can wake up groggy from that, like super groggy. It's like that's what they're feeling, but tenfold.
Speaker 1:They're stiff as hell. So they're all like who's Snow White over there? She's getting dressed, and they're talking about like, oh, we've seen aliens. They're not impressed. We get the line, the line. Hey, vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man? No, have you?
Speaker 2:I love that and.
Speaker 3:Drake's like you badass baby and she like smacks him in the face. That was so funny. It's like you can see he's just like man Vasquez in my throat.
Speaker 1:They could have like through this whole film. They could have just essentially replaced all the dialogue. Hey, we're a bunch of tough guys. Hey, tough guy. What's up tough guy? Hey, we tough guys. So they go and eat breakfast and talk about how shitty their first meal is. Well, they essentially talk about like hey, let's go get some ladies at this colony, you know it's time to bone down. Well, yeah, so I'm assuming they just go to every planet and then just start like having sex with the women there.
Speaker 1:That's what we think with our tics, and then this is where we get the knife game, and then you have Hudson just screaming. Ah, it's very fun, it's a whole fun scene, and then the sense leaks.
Speaker 4:She's like you didn't tell me there's this asshole here, yeah.
Speaker 1:So she's essentially being introduced to everybody. Then, when she sees the android Bishop, where she learns that it's an android, Ripley is super hostile. Following her experience with the traitorous android Ash from the Nostromo Bishop, says it is impossible for him to harm anyone because he's immediately like oh well, it's is impossible for him to harm anyone because he's immediately like oh well, it's absolutely impossible for me to harm anybody.
Speaker 4:I'm only 2% milk.
Speaker 1:It's like man Lance Henderson he has such a unique faith.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just when you want to punch sometimes.
Speaker 1:So Gorman is briefing his Marines, and Ripley tells them about the xenomorph. They don't take it too seriously though.
Speaker 4:They're just kind of like whatever. It kind of reminds me of the dude from Monty Python and the Holy Girl explaining the rabbit. He's got big gnashing teeth. She didn't do any of that and I wish I should know that.
Speaker 1:Something. Another important thing is so it's very small, but it's kind of the B plot that Gorman is a brand new, like lieutenant or whatever because there's all just like these little lines where the Marines are not respecting the guy. It's like I can't believe he's like the Marine yeah, he's like pretending that he's. They're like, he was just one of us, like a week ago or something like that was he well yeah, cause well he's like brand new to being a lieutenant or whatever but he wasn't a part of their squad though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think he was, cause they didn't know about the drops and stuff, yeah, but they don't take him serious and they're constantly like talking shit during my well, they probably sent him because he's so brand new he's like, like everybody shut up, that's a thing because the guy at work talks about his stories when he was in and he talked about.
Speaker 3:There's always that one person who just doesn't know when to shut up and then our sergeant will ream their ass for it.
Speaker 1:Well, in this group it's all of them.
Speaker 4:So these aren't supposed to be like the best Marines. Well, they say they're colonial.
Speaker 3:Marines and they're supposed to be like the pretty, like top tier. They're like the colonial Marines.
Speaker 1:They're like the best of the best. Do you not see their muscles? They're obviously the best. They're always sweaty.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, it's probably because they're so like working out.
Speaker 1:They're sweating out the weakness.
Speaker 3:So they only have the strength. Sweating is just I don't know.
Speaker 1:Weakness, leaving the body so we see the crew. They're prepping to leave. We see the power loader in action. Uh, we have, uh, vasquez and drake. They're all just like look at this fucking gun oh yeah, I'm gonna move it like this.
Speaker 3:Let's bone later. It's funny because everyone in this is just like these are what natural people look like, who are just healthy people, I would say, because no one's over the top like like Arnold who's on roids, no one's like jacked huge yeah.
Speaker 1:Like Bill Paxton looks like a disillusional guy, he doesn't look crazy.
Speaker 4:A lot of soldiers are that way. Not all of them just get bulky.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we see Ripley's like hey, can I help out? I actually know how power loader thing. And then like starts moving things around. She's like where do you want it? And then puts what's his name, nix Hicks. My bad, I wrote Nix for some reason, and upon they're like women.
Speaker 3:Well, I think it was more of just like she's not, they just didn't expect it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you got to think when you look, because we've both like we've all driven the forklifts and just those little controls are a little bit like I'm not. I wasn't as used to them as you guys were, but you got to think using that kind of stuff like a little joystick and the controller is like well, she's pretty good with it and like she's actually willing to help out, versus who the other two are like not doing. Even you can kind of tell with the poem afterwards he laughed.
Speaker 1:He kind of changed his demeanor. He's like could you put it in Bay 20, please? So on the ship, because they're getting on their little ship to head down on the ship, we see Vasquez and Drake. Oh wait, now this is where they check their weapons. My bag, they got big guns.
Speaker 3:They do it several times.
Speaker 1:Everybody armors up, crew is getting pumped. We are on the express elevator down going to hell because Hudson, hudson, while they're getting into the ship and stuff, he is this like fucking right. We're a bunch of bad asses. Hey, are you worried? There's a bad ass, I'm a bad ass, we're going to be bad.
Speaker 3:We got nukes, we got this yeah.
Speaker 2:And he's like we're going to kill everybody. Ripley's like fucking A I should not be here.
Speaker 3:I'm going to die with these idiots. I am the adult for these children.
Speaker 1:So while going to the planet, we see everybody has cameras and we see that they can monitor their vitals. Hudson tells Ripley that they all have very powerful weapons. We just said all that and she's super nervous because how confident they are. The drop ships deliver the expedition to the surface of LV-426. The model work in this scene is great, like all the models in this, where the ships they're great there, they find the colony is deserted, they go down. This is where you get like them kind of like going for cover to cover, like before they enter the room, and it's like all shot, really great. This is essentially like 20 minutes of them just walking around.
Speaker 3:It's so good because it's like it feels like it's another one of those like. It feels like real, I guess. One complaint I had is when Hudson was hacking into the panel and he just plugs his wires directly into the panel and there's just straight rain on the electrical panel like no, no it's futures I don't care, it's straight metal on metal.
Speaker 1:It's future wires um. And then they head inside to the colony um, they find makeshift barricades and signs of a struggle, but no bodies. There's also acid blood, and then burke turns to ripley acid blood. It's like you were right you were right, You're right.
Speaker 3:His face is just like yeah, and well, he says it like I believed you.
Speaker 1:I like I thought something happened and it's like well, it's like it's. It's just essentially like reassuring. He's like you're not crazy, we all now we know you're being sympathetic towards her, don't be a bad guy.
Speaker 4:And so man it's just he radios back like, hey, if he's acid blood. I was the first one to say it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't worry, I didn't let her say it first, so they find the two live facehuggers in containment tanks in the medical lab. When Sigourney's walking in Hicks just kind of like lightly touches her to say like I'm going to go in first and like she flinches, it's just good performance part, I forgot to do the typical thing two live facehuggers.
Speaker 3:I'm sure that won't come into play later.
Speaker 1:I was just so excited to say the flinching. I know well, I don't know. So, burke, he puts his face close to the facehuggers and it tries to grab them, it's so good. And then we learned that they caught the facehuggers while surgically removing them from the people and, of course, if you do that, they die Because they're essentially, like parasites, safe. Had they been collecting them? No, they just didn't.
Speaker 4:Or keeping them alive.
Speaker 1:Well, they just didn't know. Like in the first one, they luckily had the android that told them, like you can't remove it or it'll kill them. And this one, I'm sure, they just didn't know and they're like, oh, we're just gonna take it off like a tick yeah, that means that thing like it's like, well, if I'm not gonna get my host, it's gonna die, so I can go to another one.
Speaker 1:Yeah exactly so while continuing to search, they find a survivor, a traumatized young girl, use the ventilation systems to evade capture or death. She has a little fort made where Ripley is able to calm the girl down and catch her. Something I love is like, you know, after she like bolts and they start shooting at her and then Hicks is like, oh, hold on. And then he's got like such a big smile on his face he's like, hey, ripley, come here.
Speaker 4:So he immediately knows like she should be the one to talk to her.
Speaker 1:But like the joy on hicks face to see that they found a survivor, I was like that was kind of cool damn like he cares, he's so excited, he cares about people and it's just at first you think hicks is going to be eyes. It's going to be an asshole marine kind of, or just like he's not an asshole now, but like um, like a, you know, just a jock type of guy.
Speaker 1:But he ends up throughout the film slowly becoming more and more sensitive and like calm and thoughtful and it's great, because you think it's going to be burke or maybe even gorman, but it ends up just being hit so, like the, that's how a good leader is like.
Speaker 4:Come to be, yeah, exactly um.
Speaker 1:So gorman tries to interrogate newt because he's an asshole, but she is unresponsive. Ripley starts to mother her. Uh, she's obviously feeling responsible, since she had a daughter herself that she just found out she lost. She is able to get her to say her name, newt. Newt tells Ripley that her whole family is dead.
Speaker 4:She turned me into a newt.
Speaker 3:That was the line that my girlfriend said. It was like terrible acting. They're dead, all right yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's like she's been through a lot. Yeah, she's traumatized, she's struggling.
Speaker 3:I thought it was a sweet moment. She's not that bad, though.
Speaker 2:No, she's my favorite, definitely Compared to like.
Speaker 1:I don't know Anakin Skywalker. She's like better than that Right. Yeah, newt doesn't want to stay and just wants to continue hiding, she doesn't.
Speaker 2:literally the population said like 158.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and she's literally the last one. Where are all the other dead kids? Why don't they show they're all cocooned? I know, but like there's a shocking lack of dead children.
Speaker 1:This is back in the day when they didn't want to show kids.
Speaker 2:They didn't have the cojones.
Speaker 1:So we see Bishop, he's dissecting the face hugger, you know, over dull.
Speaker 3:And that little like oh, here we go again. He's so enamored by it and he's even that. Look, he's like OK, I'll just give you a stand, Because the twist is he's not a bad guy, so it's just interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the crew uses the colony's computer to locate the colonists group beneath the fusion powered atmosphere processing station. That's the thing that makes it be able to breathe. They head to the location with Newt with them. I don't know why they had to take her, but I get it.
Speaker 3:You don't want to leave her alone. You'd not want to leave her alone.
Speaker 1:I'd just be like go into your little hole and hide, Descending into corridors covered in secreted resin from the aliens.
Speaker 3:It looks cool. I love how they immediately touched it and without thinking this could be toxic.
Speaker 1:Yep, it's just, it's the thing in all these aliens movies. So one thing everybody pushes back on Prometheus. How dumb like the scientists are, which they're 20 times dumber than any of the other scientists in the other movies.
Speaker 3:It's been so long since I've seen it I couldn't tell you they make all the wrong choices. Why'd you stick your finger in my drink just now?
Speaker 1:Well the thing in the alien and aliens. There's really only like a couple of people that ended up doing really dumb stuff In Prometheus every single scientist made the dumbest decision that's.
Speaker 3:The thing is that these other people weren't scientists. In these other ones they're Marines. They were just miners in the first one and maybe like one sign like med bay and that was Ripley and she's like I got to lock out the med bay.
Speaker 1:I think the best way to describe it is because you have all these people that aren't scientists, they're not super curious about it.
Speaker 4:They're like we don't want to mess with this crap.
Speaker 1:And the scientists are like, ooh, I have to touch and see what this is. You just feel like they'd be a little smarter about it.
Speaker 3:And it's funny because this guy did Prometheus.
Speaker 1:So Ripley tells them that if the Marines fire their weapons they could blow the whole building, because the base is basically a nuclear reactor. And Gorman did not know that and he's immediately made to look dumb.
Speaker 3:It's so funny. He's like what and what's the big deal, so you still had to have her explain it out.
Speaker 1:I'm like dude, you're a moron. It's like you should have looked into this.
Speaker 4:He's it out and I'm like dude, you're a moron, it's like y'all. You should have looked into this.
Speaker 3:But he's green, so excited right now to see this whole place explode yeah, I love two hours left away that this is like the first time you start to see an expanding on what the aliens do because in the original alien building. It's great they had this, a scene like that. It was a deleted scene where she found her old crewmates and where they were.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck.
Speaker 3:And she found the one guy who was like the main captain in the first one with beard and stuff, found him and she killed him. He was like about to die and she flamethrowed the whole area. Hell yeah, nice Should've added it.
Speaker 1:So Epone takes all their mag and stuff, and they're just left with flamethrowers and knives essentially Vasquez and Drake, though keep their Macs.
Speaker 4:I kind of wish that they would put a scene like that into this movie as kind of like a flashback.
Speaker 3:That would have been cool, but it would have like changed. It had to have been a dream.
Speaker 1:It would have, but the reason they took it out was because it said it messed with the flow, because it was literally when the ship was about to explode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they did it, and they said we don't want to, it just didn't work with the flow of it. It just kind of slowed down, it was already slow where she like did it and they said it just took away the tension of her trying to run away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they're at the center of the station. The Marines find the colonists cocooned, serving as incubators for alien offspring. When the Marines so, yeah, and then they find one person and it's like it's alive and all of a sudden, she's like kill me.
Speaker 2:And then like Pops out of the chest and Sigourney.
Speaker 3:Weaver's just sitting here, like Because you can see that, Like that would be traumatizing to think, Because you know that's like Even in her flashback. She's like kill me, kill me.
Speaker 1:Because you know when it, nothing bursting through your sternum is not a pleasant way to go.
Speaker 3:Oh fuck, no man. Oh really, Dakota, you didn't think that would be a cool way to go. Well, I mean, when I see you, my heart, did burst Well my chest.
Speaker 1:The first thing is, you're not going to immediately die after it bursts out of you. I mean if your heart's still beating and your brain's still going. It doesn't like cut your spinal cord. I don't think there's so much trauma happening to your body and like you can't, you can't like it's busting your ribs. You're gonna I just feel like you're at least gonna like live through like five to ten seconds afterwards worst pain ever.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be like shoot me in the fucking head. Um so yeah, when the Marines they kill the newborn that pops out of the colonist chest, the aliens are aroused and ambush the Marines. It's so good how they blend in, yeah you see, the shot and it's like, because at first you're like oh fuck.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and the wall starts moving.
Speaker 1:It's as soon as, like I'm like, wait, that could be whatever.
Speaker 3:It's that whole thing you see in every horror movie the walls are moving, it's like they're literally moving because they blend in so well and then, like the saddest, death happens because a poem gets. Yeah, I was upset when he loved him. And it shows like the chaos in the moment too, because like one gets taken, one guy gets, guy gets caught on fire. Of course there goes their ammo, but it's the chaos of what happens.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow, douched in acid, yeah, and then the inexperienced.
Speaker 1:Gorman is starting to guys go back, Dude none of them are listening to him, but it's just like he's so unconvincing on being a leader. But the badass Ripley takes control of a vehicle and rams it through the nest to rescue the Marines Hicks, hudson and Vasquez. Drake, who was the cover fire is kind of like everybody's running to the ship. And then you have Drake just kind of being like the last person to shooting and flamethrowing everything. And then another alien just kind of pops out of nowhere and it's great. And then Vasquez shoots it and he gets acid all over Drake. It's like, ah, he killed his lover. It's fucking awesome.
Speaker 3:Killed the lover, Her lover. I also love it when Ripley what the hell are you?
Speaker 4:doing, saving your asses.
Speaker 1:I love when it's driving away, though, because the car looks so slow.
Speaker 3:It looks so bulky, I was like man, look, it's a Cybertruck.
Speaker 1:It's like man if only Christopher Nolan could have been like oh, in a few years we're going to get this type of tanked thing right.
Speaker 4:It would be so great.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a Tesla.
Speaker 3:I love that also as she's running away. It shows you that even like the aliens, even if you destroy them, you fuck yourself, because she immediately destroyed the tires which she was like oh, that's a good little thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's when she crushed it with the yeah.
Speaker 1:So during the escape Gorman hits his head because he's an idiot. They see that some of the Marines are still alive like a pwn, but Ripley says that they're just being cocooned and kept alive essentially to host. They are talking about what to do and Ripley says they should nuke the whole place. Burke says they have too much money into the planet, like too big of a percentage in dollar signs.
Speaker 4:We can't listen to you now, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I love when she says that they should nuke the whole place. Hicks like, like, turns to her and be like hell yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, I got a nuke in my pants right now for you.
Speaker 1:And then Ripley says I'm sorry, berg, but I believe that the military is the one calling the shots on this. And Hicks agrees with Ripley Because he's the corporal now right.
Speaker 4:He's like yeah.
Speaker 1:He's the leader since Corman Foreman's gone. Hicks orders the drop ship to recover the survivors, but sadly a stowaway alien kills the pilots, causing it to crash. Looks great, though, it's a huge explosion. This is where they use the rear projection.
Speaker 3:I love in that moment, like because anytime there's something in an alien movie like you said, they see that stuff and they touch it, they touch their saliva that they're secreting.
Speaker 1:This guy just accidentally fell into it and he's like what is this? It wasn't like purposefully touching it. Oh, what is this? Yeah, it's like, oh dang. Yes, it's like hey, girl pilot, what'd you do over here? Um, but yeah, the whole explosion looks great, um, and then you get this is where you get bill paxton freaking out, and it's where you get the line game over man game over and now they don't know what to do and they're like, oh, we could just like build a fire here.
Speaker 1:And then this is where Newt says we better get back. It will be dark soon and they mostly come at night, mostly Great. So Ripley, newt Burke and the remaining Marines barricade themselves inside the colony. They take, they take stock of the weapons. We learn that they have four robot sentries. I'm not gonna lie, I remember the robot sentries a lot more in the movie than how they're used here but it's really cool.
Speaker 3:So in the directors this one and in the original you get the sentries a lot less. Oh really, I don't I'm drawing blank on it, but I swear you don't even get the sentry scene stuff in the original. And it's awful Cause I was like I love that stuff, cause it added tension of like with the bullets counting down. You're with them.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's such a good scene. It was like, wow, they're gone in a minute.
Speaker 4:It was 500 rounds each you can hear them going off. It was really neat. I was like well, you can tell, those aren't?
Speaker 3:controlled burst machines is probably like unloading like a hundred rounds into one. When it's like, oh, that one should be dead for two shots, go to the next one.
Speaker 1:It's just blind fire, yeah cause it shoots like five at a time. So Newt, they're sitting around, they're talking about everything. Newt's just kind of hanging out, touching like explosive rounds, like don't touch that honey. But what I love is like Hicks says, don't touch that it. It's dangerous, sweetie.
Speaker 2:It's like he's so sweet.
Speaker 3:I love it. I love how sensitive everybody is If it's in the same scene where they're. If it's either in the same scene or later, it is because she puts the helmet on and she's like she survived here without any weapons or anything, and she looks at him and just salutes him.
Speaker 1:And it's so cute and good. Yeah, it says they find out they won't have rescue for 17 days, which we kind of know why. Now, because it takes so long to at least to just to get the message. Yeah, exactly. So Hudson freaks out, says that news, but Ripley says Newt survived, so they can. Ripley takes charge sending Hudson to find blueprints of the colony, because he's just freaking the fuck out. It's like hey, listen to me, I'm the leader now.
Speaker 3:She goes, I'm the leader now. She goes, I'm the captain now. And uh, while they're looking at those maps later, it's also another sweet moment with Hicks, because Newt looks around kind of like look, and he just picks her up and puts her up there so she can look as well and was like man, he's a good guy, hope he doesn't die so they find that a tunnel connects the nest and to the colony.
Speaker 1:That's how they've been traveling. They're going to block all but two ways for them to travel and use the sentries to kill them. Hicks gives Ripley a locator and they're kind of like it's like the first hint that they're going to start flirting a little bit, because it's like it doesn't mean we're engaged or anything.
Speaker 3:She immediately is like oh thank you.
Speaker 1:Newt take this. Yeah, newt take this. Yeah. Ripley puts Newt down to sleep. She tries to calm Newt and says like everything's going to be okay. Newt asks why do parents tell kids they're monsters if it's a lie? Newt asks if Ripley has a kid. And Ripley gives Newt a locator yeah, so they the group are talking about how there are so many facehuggers and Hudson says there must be a queen, like with ants Like these aren't ants.
Speaker 3:He's like I know but I'm just trying to say Bees have hives, ants don't.
Speaker 1:Oh, also when they're going over the blueprint. I didn't say it, but there's this part where, like Newt's trying to look between to see what they're looking at, and then, like Hicks just puts her on the blueprint. No like when he sets her on the table.
Speaker 3:I said that.
Speaker 1:I said it's Don't listen to me, it's fine, it's fun, it's like. What I love about it is because the group of people, they're all family now. They're all in it together, even like the child.
Speaker 3:And it's like we all have to know what to do, and I don't know I love the way that they're, even though it's like the technology's just cool because it's like, okay, go back here. Instead of being like touchscreen and stuff, I prefer it that way.
Speaker 1:She's controlling it and when they zoom in.
Speaker 3:it gives you the different levels and stuff, because now everything's hologram and it looks terrible Holograms, suck I hate it.
Speaker 1:So Ripley Bishop kind of is talking a little bit talking about the aliens, and then kind of lets loose that Burke wants to investigate and bring one of the alien eggs home.
Speaker 3:Of course, throw them out there with him. Throw them out there with him?
Speaker 1:Yes, immediately. And then Ripley's pissed. Burke's believed he could become wealthy by recovering alien specimens for use as biological weapons. Threatens to expose him. And it sucks, because I like Burke.
Speaker 3:I don't understand that logic of certain people who cannot think of survival versus money. Like dude, like, do you not see, like these soldiers, that you are not have died? So, he's obviously the most optimistic. Yeah, we're going to make it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's just thinking about an early retirement, so, and then all of a sudden alarms start going off and the aliens have hit the tunnels and they are quickly drained, and the turrets are quickly drained of bullets and they can hear the aliens trying to break in. It's great, awesome.
Speaker 4:It's like what the fuck? Yeah, it's like where's?
Speaker 1:They're all over the walls in there, and then Bishop informs the group of a greater danger. The power plant was damaged during the battle. This is why you shouldn't have been shooting guns in there. But what else are you do right? And will soon detonate with the force of 40 megaton thermonuclear weapon. Hell, yeah, man, I don't know the difference between a 39 megaton nuclear I think the one in oppenheimer was 20, oh, okay so double that, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, um, they're like how are you gonna? Because they have to now like find a way to get the drop ship. And they're like who's gonna do it? And like all of a sudden, bishop says he'll volunteer to crawl through several hundred meters of piping conduct to reach the colonies, transmitter and remotely pilot the ship remaining drop ship to the surface um he doesn't have to breathe. He can just like, and the tunnel is so tiny.
Speaker 3:I feel so claustrophobic every time with that scene.
Speaker 1:You need someone that doesn't have, you know, that type of feeling inside their body to do that.
Speaker 3:I also like in the moment, like because you could see Ripley as they're all arguing. She looks at him, she's like he's willing to sacrifice.
Speaker 4:Do you think it was kind of like that thing where the two humans are like who's going to do it and they're looking at him? Like waiting for it Well it made me think of Lord of the Rings, and you just got.
Speaker 3:Gandalf like I'll take it. And Gandalf oh no, frodo, no you're too good.
Speaker 1:And then we get the scene where the other two turrets start firing and run out of bullets. Immediately the aliens retreat. This is where we kind of get the flashes of aliens exploding when they're getting shot.
Speaker 1:It's great and they're saying like oh, they ran away. And I think Hudson say maybe we got them demoralized. Oh my god, he's such a fucking idiot. And then, so you know, vasquez and Hudson, they're kind of starting to freak out. And then Hicks is a way better like lieutenant than Gorman is, because he's like look, I know we're all strung out, but we have to survive. And it's like something Gorman would have never said. He would have never known how to talk to them to make them say hey, look alive. Hicks and Ripley talk about unaliving themselves if it comes to it. He says because Ripley's like, make sure that I don't turn into one of those. And he's like don't worry, I'll do, you and myself.
Speaker 3:Do you completely understand? He's like do you not want that?
Speaker 1:And then Hicks is like all right, you have to learn how to shoot a gun. Now he shows how to use a gun.
Speaker 3:And now they're in love he's like you started this show me all of it Hicks.
Speaker 1:And then we see Gorman. He's up and fine. Ripley finds Newt sleeping under her bed and she joins her Bishop successfully, makes it to the satellite dish and we can now remote pilot the extra drop ship. Ripley and Newt awaken to find themselves locked in the room with the two facehuggers which have been released from their tanks. They're so scary and I think it's kind of the scariest scene in the entire movie. Yes because those things are just, you don't know where they're at. It reminds me of the thing.
Speaker 2:With the head, like how they're skittering around.
Speaker 1:Except it's a little more scarier because the head scene is kind of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So good. I like the idea of remote piloting Because it seemed like a very.
Speaker 3:Valid thing. That's a thing now. Yeah yeah, yeah so ripley, uh.
Speaker 1:Ripley tries to signal for help on the camera. Uh, when they're inside the med bay, um, but burke asshole that we all used to love, uh, turns it off. Ripley decides to trigger a fire alarm because she's hella smart to alert the marines. One almost gets on to ripley, but the marines show up just in time to rescue um, yeah, but the huggers, they look so good, running around so close.
Speaker 3:There was such a good scene too, like where she. I was like how are you going to get out of here?
Speaker 3:you can't break the glass yeah, she's trying to break the glass and then she's trying to open the door and it was kind of interesting how like wrapping around the throat makes and it makes sense, like why you couldn't really, even if you're like stopping it here at your face with your hand, it's choking you and you're eventually gonna be like I'm blacking out, I'm blacking out because of the perfect killing machines, the perfect specimens the perfect rapists.
Speaker 1:And then I love that when Hicks is like they're gonna go in, he's like shoot the window and then he like dives through the head close to his head.
Speaker 2:What a badass.
Speaker 3:Newt's Hudson watch out kid and just starts blasting away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so good, but they all make it out successfully. Ripley accuses Burke of releasing the facehuggers so that they would impregnate her and Newt, allowing him to smuggle the alien embryos past Earth's quarantine and planning to kill the rest of the Marines in hypersleep during the return trip, so that no one could contradict his versions of events. And I love this. It's the best line of the movie. Personally, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage.
Speaker 2:I love that that's when it's like Ripley, you are the queen.
Speaker 1:So good. And the Marines are like all right, we're killing Burke, who cares? And before the Marines can kill Burke, though, the electricity is cut and aliens assault. The aliens begin their assault through the ceiling. The buildup is so great of this, they all go into that one, they're all in the one room.
Speaker 4:Welding the door.
Speaker 1:Welding the door shut and like Hudson's, like they're like in the room and everybody's like you're totally reading it wrong. Ripley looks at it Uh-oh, we thought he was just an idiot, but he's actually correct. And then this is where Ripley's like oh no, looks up to the ceiling and they poke their heads and Hicks, like shines the camera and there's like so many of them.
Speaker 3:It's so good he did not die, because how many times I think it's been sitting there.
Speaker 1:then second mouth, gotcha there's not a lot of second mouth action in this movie like in the first one.
Speaker 3:Compared to the first one, I think the action was more of the focus versus, like we know what these things are, it's focused on like the trouble it would be.
Speaker 1:They do it enough. They do it like two times in this movie, but it's like.
Speaker 4:I felt like the alien was very second mouth heavy.
Speaker 3:Well, it's the first time you've seen it.
Speaker 1:Like it's got a mouth inside its mouth. Yeah, so the action starts and they try to hold him off. Hudson gets sucked down by a xenomorph, While Ripley tried to escape with Nuke. Burke closes all of them in Asshole.
Speaker 2:They are able to get. Are you scared now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so wait. Did I already say that? Yeah, Hudson, so wait? Did I already say that, yeah, hudson gets sucked down, that sucks yeah, I was upset when Paxton was gone. I was like man, I thought he was in it the whole time, but I think I was kind of happy there's still so much that happens afterwards. I know like we still got like an hour left. I was, I thought he was.
Speaker 4:I thought he was great, but I just I was so annoying I was enjoying him.
Speaker 3:I was like I don't know why, Every time he talked, I was just laughing.
Speaker 1:So they're able to get through the door while fending them off. But the next door was also closed by Burke. Burke still ends up getting attacked by Xenomorph. Here's your percentage, and this was the first time that he uses the small mouth, so Newt sends them through the vents and is leading them to an escape.
Speaker 4:Vasquez is in the back did it feel like the vents got bigger.
Speaker 1:The vents are fucking huge. I'm like yo, you might want smaller vents.
Speaker 4:This is how aliens get the injury. I kind of felt like they started off a little bit smaller, but then they're like almost standing up I think like maybe in certain areas this is probably like yeah, I guess so this might be like a maintenance man maybe.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Possibly, well, you gotta have people be able to get through, I guess yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Newt sends them through the vents to the escape. Vasquez is in the back trying her best to fend them off, then eventually gets acid on her leg because she ran out of bullets and had to shoot one.
Speaker 3:That's got to be so fucking painful because she knows she lost her foot melted off.
Speaker 1:And then we get the scene where Gorman redeems himself and goes back to help her. But when they're out of bullets and cornered, they blow themselves up. She's like I fucking hate you.
Speaker 4:Gorman, that was awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really good you were an asshole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm glad they gave it to him because you know it's ready for a mission like this.
Speaker 3:He should have been on like a little much like easier missions for his first time and he'd probably gotten used to it Like one alien only.
Speaker 1:But I think you're right.
Speaker 3:Like he would have been easy to control, so send him on a mission like this Because Burke would have told him like no, like, this is what we do, he's like okay, that's right, that's what.
Speaker 3:But Newt falls during the explosion and Hicks and Ripley have to rescue her by cutting through some flooring and she like like when she falls down, she's at a lower level and she's in water and it leads to the best shot of the whole movie. I feel like like when she tells her like OK, newt, don't move, and she's like OK, and like I could feel like this is so like. I felt like this is good action.
Speaker 1:And then you have, like Ripleyley, like looking at the little motion monitor and like, while Hicks is cutting the grading, and then, like you just have her standing there and then, next thing, you know, right as they're starting to get the thing open, an alien comes out of the water. Now I wish we could have the shot for like two seconds longer, because how epic it is, it's so cool. It's like ah, aliens should come out of water more. Well, they didn't Worth one. I don't know. I can't remember that one.
Speaker 3:There's a whole scene where they're swimming. Yeah, I know that's.
Speaker 1:The only scene I remember is when they're having to hold their breath, and it's like that scared me as a kid.
Speaker 3:Yes, they can swim. They're great at swimming.
Speaker 1:You can't ride he wrote on every 90s movie.
Speaker 2:He's the punch-up guy. He also wrote Toy Story. Joss Whedon he was a writer on Toy.
Speaker 3:Story Speed?
Speaker 1:I didn't know that and Alien Resurrection. So then we get the great shot of an alien coming out of water. I already said that, and when Ripley is able to get her, she is gone. Ripley thinks she's still alive, and the cool thing is he's still alive. And the cool thing is Hicks is like I believe you, like I don't think you're crazy. Yeah, we're, we'll figure this out, but Hicks forces her to run away, though.
Speaker 3:Well, he's a valid reason, Like I believe you, but we have to go now, cause there was literally a horde of them, yeah. We got to get all our guns. I love when he sits there and pushes Like there's one of them, the door sticks, kind of, and I'm sitting here like the other ones, I'll get out. And if it's the one that the door sticks, I'm literally like face to face with the door. I'm expecting it to already be open. I'm like what is happening? Yeah.
Speaker 1:So Ripley and an injured Hicks, injured by acid, because they get in an elevator and alien almost gets in there and he shoots it and he gets acid.
Speaker 3:I love that they were sitting there actually choking from the smoke of it, because it was like that's real, because it's acid burning a steel plate.
Speaker 1:They'd be sitting there like I can't fucking breathe. It's terrible. They reach Bishop in the second dropship, but Ripley refuses to abandon Newt. I'm not going to leave this in, but this is our dog, so I may cut it and say that at least, just so like people understand something's going on out there. So she hastily assembles a weapon, tapes two guns together a flamethrower and a gun.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. It's awesome.
Speaker 1:Hicks and Ripley say goodbye and tell each other their actual names. Hers is Ellen, his is something that's not important, but I didn't know her name was Ellen. I can't, I'd never remember that Timber Hall she goes.
Speaker 3:I also like how she's like don't let him fucking leave. He's like we're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1:He's like I'd rather die than leave you exactly she goes to rescue Newt from the hive in the processing station. She makes her way through the building and she looks badass doing it cause like as she comes out of the elevator she's like I'm posing she still shoots the flamethrower.
Speaker 3:Cause she? Because she'd know they could be like hidden in there and they'll react to the fire.
Speaker 1:So smart Because like yeah, we just saw them camouflage the whole damn time. So in the flares behind, this is so good, james Cameron knows how to make a damn movie Stop making an avatar please Just make. Get us to the fire people. I just want to know what they look like. Are they going to be red or purple? They're going to be hot. Yeah, they're gonna be hot, yeah they're gonna be desert color she comes upon Newt's locator and thinks she may be dead, but it quickly cuts to her covered in goo then, an egg opens and it's like that moment of when she, like she's sitting there so broke down and then, like when she hears her cry, I just felt it.
Speaker 1:She's like, oh, she's alive, go, I'm a baby yeah, and the egg opens and then Newt screams, alerting Ripley to her location. Ripley mercs an alien and is able to save her. She runs out of the room and they are in. They run out of the room, they are in, and ends up in the middle of a nest of eggs and it's like fuck. And then we see like a giant, like gooey tube thing squirting out an alien, and then we realize it's the Queen Xenomorph and it looks fucking awesome.
Speaker 3:It's one of those ones where you could wish you were in that time of like. You see the first alien movie and the second one comes out and you're seeing this new thing like oh shit, it's bucky, they are screwed and I bet it knows how to use an elevator.
Speaker 1:Um no, but like the slow reveal and panning towards it. And then when it pans and we see that it's like a big one, it cuts to a front head shot where you have like Ripley in the shot and then the queen there and it's like that thing looks sick and it's huge and you can see its head and then it starts moving a little bit and it's like there's no way this thing fits in an elevator. They should, if they get in one.
Speaker 1:They can crunch up, I know Ripley starts destroying the eggs and enraging the queen. I love it because they're just staring it down. And here's the thing, because other aliens are popping up, right, the queen is realizing that as long as those aliens don't attack her, she will leave the eggs alone.
Speaker 2:It's something that I never realized before she kind of even waves them off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something that I never realized before. She kind of even waves them off. Yeah, waves them off and it's amazing. I love it. Here's what kills me, because the one alien egg opens and Ripley's like nah, dog.
Speaker 3:She's like oh you fucking bitch.
Speaker 1:But here's like. This is probably the only like true problem I have with this movie. You shouldn't have flamethrowed any of them or you should have, like before you walked out, thrown all your grenades and then booked it, because she enrages the thing and she also starts shooting at the queen which disconnects it from her little tube thing which allows it to break off.
Speaker 1:Well, she can rip off regardless, yeah, but I think like the queen would have probably stayed and she wouldn't have had to done all this fight, fight and she could have just hurried up and tried to run to the elevator, get on the ship, and then the nuke would have taken them all out there was it was completely unnecessary for the kill of these.
Speaker 4:It was kind of a thing she did it out of passion no, I told it's also.
Speaker 3:You took my child away from me. Well, guess what I?
Speaker 1:totally get it, but for a minute I was like you. You just need to protect yourself and, newt, get to the ship and blow this whole planet.
Speaker 3:Well, it also slowed them down because, like it killed all those eggs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they would have ran after.
Speaker 3:I'm sure I do get that and the thing is is that the queen can always start another hive again. She was like I'm getting this fucking bitch yeah.
Speaker 2:But I mean, the whole planet is about to get Newt.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but so she makes. She makes it to an elevator. She's like pressing both elevator buttons. And previously, before she went down into the elevator, because Cameron's such a smart visual filmmaker, we only see the one elevator and then he kind of pans a little bit and it reveals that there's two, just totally setting up the scene here, nice. And so she's pressing both buttons. I'm like, don't do both elevators, do one. And so she's just in time she gets onto the elevator and then she goes up and the other elevator opens up and he like dings or whatever.
Speaker 1:And we just get a look at the queen, like yeah, unlimited power. They make it to where the dropship is supposed to be, but it's not there. The building is blowing up around them. The queen makes it up just in time, but just in time the dropship is supposed to be, but it's not there, the building is blowing up around them. The queen makes it up just in time, but just in time the dropship arrives. All four escape moments before the colony is consumed by the nuclear blast and all is well, maybe.
Speaker 3:You think the movie's over here?
Speaker 1:What she always forgets is that these damn aliens love to find dark places to put their bodies in.
Speaker 3:This is exactly what happened in the first alien.
Speaker 1:Well, it's like you think you're safe, but like did you check every nook and cranny of your ship Because it could be anywhere, even if it's a giant damn queen. And what was?
Speaker 4:he doing flying away. Well, he said that it was getting really like dangerous.
Speaker 2:The platform wasn't able to hold the ship alone, and he's like it was just getting really like sketchy.
Speaker 3:The platform wasn't able to hold the ship alone. And he's like it was just getting really sketchy and he just kept flying around If he stayed there the platform would have probably broken or something Gotcha.
Speaker 1:But Ripley finally is like oh thanks, man, you're actually a good robot, you're one of the good ones. And says he did okay. And Bishops is like I did good, pop, I did good.
Speaker 3:And then and you're like the movie's. And then that whole scene where he gets picked up and like it's all practical effects and tears him apart.
Speaker 1:It was awesome Me and the crow was in mid-conversation. Love Milky Boy.
Speaker 3:And she was, she looks over and she's like, ooh yeah.
Speaker 1:And then it goes back to the seeing that I was like ooh, I could use that in some cereal man milk and on the ship Ripley and Bishop's relief are what I just said. All that Are torn apart. Because, yeah, he gets ripped up because it was hiding in the landing gear. You'd think that they'd be less icky.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know Robots. Robots, yeah, they need their fluids.
Speaker 1:They don't run off oil. So the queen advances on Newt but Ripley clashes with her using an exosuit cargo loader and it's like as soon as it opens up she says get away from her, you bitch.
Speaker 3:And it's like let's go Because, like that alien, the queen was like trying to like playing freaking whack-a-mole with Newt.
Speaker 1:So we all agree this rules right. Yeah, alien versus mech suit. And it was also great because Natalie never seen this and I can finally got to say you remember, in the Halloween episode of Community, where you have Abed as the queen xenomorph. And then you have Donald.
Speaker 2:Glover in the thing.
Speaker 1:I'm like that's what this is from, but anyway, so super rad, right? Does this a little bit take away from how dangerous the aliens are? This slow mechanical suit is able to. I get that.
Speaker 3:it's super powerful but it's like Well, it's, the thing is.
Speaker 1:And then the queen is big so it's slower, but it's like I still feel like it should have been faster.
Speaker 3:If there was like a regular xenomorph, I think it probably would have taken it, taken her out of the suit just because it's faster. I think probably didn't understand, like the danger of it and you got to think once like once she was able to get a grip on it. Those things are. It's a forklift power loader. That thing is going to lock in and you're not getting out of mouth, trying to get out of the suit.
Speaker 1:But there was also like keep going. I'll probably be up in so ripley starts laying down some haymakers on it and eventually is able to throw it out of an airlock, because there's like an airlock in the ground and apparently this airlock has like 50 different places. You can open it and close it, because every time she lands somewhere it's like oh, I can press this button well.
Speaker 3:So like where she like throws it in the airlock and it pulls her down, I was like, well, if in real world how heavy forklifts are and how heavy that thing is, that probably would have crushed the queen, yeah well it's trying to move and get out but it can't, and she's able to climb and like press the button to where the airlock opens and she's trying to hold on for dear life getting sucked out um and while the airlock is open, wasn't the?
Speaker 4:queen holding on to her shoes, hold on to her leg.
Speaker 1:I was like you'd be pulled apart, I think it kind of like rips her shoe and a little bit of her pants out as it falls through.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was so funny. Yeah, it was just like dang.
Speaker 1:And while the airlock is open, bishop catches Newt, who's almost about to fly out, and it's like let's go, bishop, and Ripley is able to close the door without being thrown out. Ripley, newt, hicks and the badly damaged Bishop enter hypersleep for the return to Earth, the end.
Speaker 4:That's it. That's Aliens.
Speaker 2:Whew, my mouth is dry, boys. Well, the director's cut is like two and a half hours long.
Speaker 1:So it's a pretty long movie. It's very long. Well, it's like 15 minutes longer.
Speaker 3:Well, I didn't realize that until Aliens like 2.17.
Speaker 1:Yep. Oh, I feel like you can feel the link. Yeah, can you? Yeah, I could, especially because we watched it kind of late last night.
Speaker 1:I watched it earlier in the day and then watching it the second time and it was like we're starting to get really tired because you know we've been waking up super early to take care of the kitten and I've been waking up to help her. We're up since like 5 am and it was like nearly one. When we're almost finished, I was like man, this is a long ass movie man, I went to bed before you, did I?
Speaker 1:mean, it's great, I love it. I don't really have too many complaints, like when we were going to go to now our categories, and I don't really have anything to fill with anything negative. I do Just a few things. But so we're going to head to our category the good, the bad, the fine. This is where we discuss the good of the film, something we liked, the bad, something we didn't. The ugly, something that aged well. The fine, something that did age well.
Speaker 2:And since Dakota is so gung-ho with some opinions in this section.
Speaker 3:Well, we're doing the good first, yeah, we start with the good. Okay, go ahead with the good. The good is just showing you how he. He knew he couldn't make it as good, but he still made it a great movie that stands on its own from the previous movie. Oh yeah, he didn't try and do like something different. He added something that made it better and it's something that he still used today anytime in Alien lore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what about you? Koda, jason, jason, I'm an alien lore.
Speaker 4:Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 1:Koda, jason, jason, I'm so used to always throwing it to you first and then.
Speaker 2:I throw it to him.
Speaker 1:So now I'm like, well, koda should be next. That's cool, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 4:I think the codes are. I like how they went into more of the scientific kind of nature of the xenomorphs and like how they kind of the queen, like how her old giant ass. Damn, you know she had some cake back there she's a donkato, yeah, yeah, that was really cool, but it was just a really fun movie to watch yeah, my good was obviously practical effects.
Speaker 1:I feel like I say that every time we do a practical effects movie, when the queen's face was cut with.
Speaker 4:the extra face was like sinking out and like coming out.
Speaker 1:That was cool you know, like because we just did Signs not too long ago, Signs probably would have looked better if it, I don't know had practical effects.
Speaker 2:But also put more goo on Aliens man More goo Aliens got to be gooey.
Speaker 1:I'm a fan of goo, but also just the characters. The acting and the character work. A lot of movies wouldn't have made all these actors have like different personalities like they do.
Speaker 3:Vasquez just classic, like Michelle Rodriguez type, you know, badass, like just cool. I think her badassery was better than Michelle Rodriguez's. I feel like Michelle Rodriguez's like that's who I'm going to base my whole acting career off of.
Speaker 1:I feel like Michelle Rodriguez is like that's who I'm going to base my whole acting career off of. No, and talking about Michelle Rodriguez, I give you know she's always. She got started in a movie called Girl Fight where she was like, you know, tough, like fighter type girl and then you know she kept just getting roles of just like oh, I'm like cold and badass and like I'm always, always angry.
Speaker 1:And she ends up in Lost Spoilers and when they put her in the show she's like please don't make me this type of character. And of course, in Lost they immediately do that, for, like the first time she shows up and they're like well, now we don't know what to do with the character. Whatever, that was a bad move. I need to start a Lost podcast. All right, we're going to go to our next category, the bad Something. We didn't like, dakota, what do you not like? My part would be wrong.
Speaker 3:I'm just kidding when it's just nitpick stuff. It's where the power loader falls on the queen, doesn't crush it, and then also when the queen grabs her leg and then opens the airlock and Ripley's able just to hold on, while that queen is there getting sucked out too for one. That queen would have ripped her leg right off. Her arm would have been ripped off with it. But that's just like little nitpick things, that's like realistically not gonna work, but still just a great movie.
Speaker 1:It's just like realistically the science behind that wouldn't work Well actually. Yeah, that'd be like this whole movie. What do you got for bad? Anything you didn't like.
Speaker 4:Not really Maybe like what he was talking about. There's some silly moments, but I really hated seeing Bill Paxton after seeing Twister.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just thought he was like too over the top. Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3:I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1:That's a plus. For me it's very 80s. You know we watch Roadhouse and it's like how crazy everybody is in this. It's just something that, like all 80s action movies they just have. This was just how we were acting in the 80s. Well, didn't this go on for 85? Six, I believe. Terminator is 84. Was 86, I believe. My bad, I didn't really have anything. I mean the. The main complaint about Alien, or Aliens compared to Alien, is that Aliens kind of makes the alien, the xenomorph, kind of seem weaker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, less, less scary but that's the thing, the thing is this movie is still scary in parts, but it's just because, like in the first one, they're not soldiers. Yeah, it's just regular people. They don't have weapons, they're not prepared. This is like let's show you what it's like when you actually have trained soldiers and they still fuck you up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly the Ugly, something that didn't age well. I forgot, I had it earlier and fucking exoplanets, yeah planets, man, um the thing that didn't age well, um suits, you know.
Speaker 3:Damn damn board members that still is bad corporate America. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel like at some point we used to like trust the people and now, like we all just know, dollar signs.
Speaker 3:You can never trust percentages.
Speaker 1:Yeah but, I really don't have anything that didn't age well, I mean because it's like you said, it's pretty unproblematic, practical effects still hold up?
Speaker 3:after how old? 40 years old?
Speaker 1:yeah, it looks better than almost every alien movie we have, like you know, I recommend and no one will save you with signs. That movie, yeah, and it's just like the aliens and signs aliens and no one will save us, just their CGI and they don't look good compared to this, especially science.
Speaker 2:That was awful.
Speaker 1:But I mean, I still love that movie. I've never seen it. I will literally swing on anybody. All right, we're going to go to the fine Something that aged well.
Speaker 3:I'll say, even though they've had some bad ones just the Alien franchise in general I still love watching them, Even the bad AVP movies. I still just love watching the Aliens. Even I don't like Prometheus.
Speaker 1:Worst part about Prometheus is that it's an Alien movie. Everything outside of the Alien is kind of cool and like very interesting. It's very like he obviously had a world in his mind that he brought to life. And then it's like but what if we have aliens? Yeah, that's not because the problem with Covenant is like I, like the white dudes, the white muscular.
Speaker 3:I don't like that design but I still like the engineers, Like the idea that they were the creators of all life and how cool it was he just turns the dust or whatever.
Speaker 1:What do you got for the fine?
Speaker 2:Sorry if I cut you off. I'm used to it. Do you have anything?
Speaker 1:that aged well for you.
Speaker 4:Well, I guess I really like aliens, space marines. I mean, I don't know yeah even if it's a bad space marine movie, I'm probably still gonna watch it yeah they spawned a lot of copycats we're dudes, we're just like hell yeah, brother there's even a game called space marine. I know and they've, only, they've, only. Don't get me started on Warhammer. I'm so excited for that yeah, oh, is it a Warhammer game? Yes, it is. Oh, sorry, we can't do this, stop production.
Speaker 1:We can't do Warhammer well like that's.
Speaker 3:The thing is, like the creatures in that are like I don't know which came first, because Warhammer's been around for fuck forever. Is that the Tyranids that, like they had the same thing. They do this thing where they infiltrate populations. They take the dna of what um is a part of that population and integrate into themselves, and they look like xenomorphs too. Fuck yeah, so I can't wait to start killing hordes of those bastards and, in terms of uh, games for alien, I mean, none of them seem to really work, except for isolation.
Speaker 1:Isolation was I did so they always. There was the, the one that was like the space marine, like alien one, where the AI was so terrible it was unplayable.
Speaker 3:The thing is, is that if you get the AI like that game could have been okay, but they didn't do even decent enemy AI on them. But the alien versus predator game that came out when you're the humans fighting the aliens that the aliens.
Speaker 1:That was fun. I enjoyed fighting the aliens in that because you had to fight, watch out for face huggers, watch out for aliens. It was fun. Yeah, hell, yeah, um. So for me, the fine I put james cameron he aged well because the boy's still making billions of dollars as he is. Just wish he did more movies, um.
Speaker 3:And then sigourney weaver, just like the queen of sci-fi alien movies even those other two sequels that aren't as good, she's still great, great, and still makes the movies with her.
Speaker 4:She's in those two.
Speaker 3:Alien 3 and 4?
Speaker 4:I've never seen them yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're not the greatest. They definitely lean heavier, and we're just making movies.
Speaker 4:Wasn't there one where they do, bounces bullets off the walls and shit. The guy has two pistols. Black guy with dreadlocks.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's the fourth one. Yeah, he does do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Resurrection's silly as hell.
Speaker 3:But I still love it, yeah, man.
Speaker 1:I'll watch it again. It's crazy how I'll watch it, like. I mean think about the directors that have directed these movies. You got Ridley Scott starting his career, james Cameron starting his career, david Fincher starting his career. I gotta look up who did Resurrection. Resurrection was directed by. Okay, let's just take Fuckin' Forever.
Speaker 4:Did they draw the names from a hat For the next alien movie?
Speaker 3:Well, the third one Was like, where they had the strong, like was for whatever reason, holy crap. That's when studios started fuckin' with movies Cause they fucked with David Lynch Lynchers, right, they fucked with his David Lynch's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fincher, fincher, they fucked with his David Lynch's movie. That's the guy that did Twin Peaks.
Speaker 3:That would have been an awesome movie they fucked with it so much like for what he originally wanted right, and they messed like it was the strongest studio interference and messed his movie up so bad. Yeah, it would have been really good.
Speaker 1:Alien Resurrection was directed by actually a pretty decent director. Holy crap, he did like romantic movies. What's his name, I don't know, can't say Some French guy.
Speaker 4:Jean-Pierre Junet. Oh, is that why all the xenomorphs have berets?
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, oui, oui, let's get my second mouth, it's got even tidier bray on it.
Speaker 1:All right, guys, let's be like Bishop and let's land this ship, okay, so what do y'all got for double feature?
Speaker 4:I was going to say I think I've said Abyss before, but like that's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really makes you want to see other aliens. It's kind of like the perfect movie after I almost thought maybe Sphere of like the perfect movie.
Speaker 4:after I almost thought I thought maybe sphere, but like spheres goofy I've never seen that it's cool, but it's goofy.
Speaker 1:Sphere, I vaguely remember watching that thing. What about you? What do you got for double feet?
Speaker 3:So I forgot to think about it and then I thought about what we were doing. It's like what's a good other, and I don't know if I've recommended it before, but I'm going to do it again, nope.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 4:Nope is cool as hell. Yeah, it's like a yeah, it's a great movie. You should watch Spirited, though. It's an interesting watch. I think it's it's got LL Cool J in it.
Speaker 1:I think it's on Netflix or something.
Speaker 4:It's on something.
Speaker 1:it's a real mind fuck yeah, so my movie it's um I think you recommended it before or I did, uh, but it would be a great double feature with this because it's about um, female like, uh, there's like soldiers or whatever. They're not all female soldiers some scientists, some whatever. It's Annihilation with Natalie Portman.
Speaker 4:Yeah yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:The guy that did Men and Civil War he directed it the movie's cool as hell yeah the movie's great, it's trippy. It's not as action-packed as this.
Speaker 3:I wish it did focus more on the trippiness. I was like, can we just have the whole movie like this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because when I was watching it, this is so cool, I wanted more and more of it. And then and it's pretty similar the ending's a little different. Well, there's a lot different actually, so it's not very similar, but I enjoyed the movie more than I enjoyed the audiobook. But, guys, that's Aliens Woo Make sure you join us next week because we're doing another Coen brother movie, baby, and it may be my favorite, I can't tell. Last time we talked about Fargo, I confused it with Lebowski Fargo.
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