EPL Week 32: Spurs' Struggles and Chelsea's Crossroads

Join us this week on "Football Yanks" as we tackle the turbulence at Tottenham and the scrutiny surrounding Stamford Bridge. In this episode, our trio of hosts, Ryan, Luke, and Derek, delve deep into the top stories shaping the football world, where strategy on the pitch clashes with the chaos of commerce and controversy.

First, Ryan leads the charge with a candid discussion about Pochettino's precarious position at Chelsea, pondering his future amid doubts about European competition. Luke throws a curveball into the mix with musings on a dysfunctional club.

Shifting gears, our hosts take on the activism sparking friction within the US women’s national team, considering Corbin Albert's incendiary social media presence and its rippling effects on team harmony. They even dare to joke about their navigation through the politically correct podcasting landscape.

Next, Derek sets the stage for a showdown as Chelsea prepares to face Everton. The hosts lay down their score predictions amidst a chorus of discontent with Chelsea’s performance and management's decisions. Ryan meticulously notes the dramatics of boardroom dealings, and Luke can't help but envisage a face-off with managerial legends.

The banter continues as we recount bizarre on-pitch antics from the players and passionate fans across the seas in the Turkish league. How will fines and the theatrical stand against the federation play out for troubled Fenerbahce?

Take advantage of our analysis of heartbreaking errors plaguing Burnley against Brighton and the perplexing disparities between the Manchester giants. Our hosts don't hold back, cutting through the midfield to dissect Rashford's woes and goalkeeper Onana's technical slips.

As we round the corners of global football, we tackle the bittersweet victory in the SheBelieves Cup, the rise of rivalries, and financial fair play puzzles reshaping Europe's landscape. As we inch closer to the season's climax, we're questioning strategic moves and speculating on the high-stakes player market.

So, buckle up for another riveting ride through the world of football, where every pass, every goal, and every controversial kick means more than just the score. Listen, laugh, and leap into the passionate debates on "Football Yanks" – your weekly dose of soccer served American-style.

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Transcript

Ryan [00:00:00]:
Hey, it's Ryan, Derek and Luke from the football yanks. Luke's back this week. That's, that's big news. How's it going, Luke?

Luke [00:00:08]:
It's fucking great. Happy to be back.

Ryan [00:00:12]:
So this week we, we talked about Tottenham and how their loss to Newcastle will impact their title charge. We talked about Burnley and Brighton for some reason. And we touched on the Wolves a bit. The Wolves Forest game and what's his name, Geo Reyna's making his first start for Forest. So big news there. We talked about how awful Man United looked against Bournemouth and how they were lucky to escape there. We were live viewing the Arsenal Villa game as this went on, which as of the end of the. When we stopped for it was, it was nil nil and Liverpool took a loss to palace.

Ryan [00:00:59]:
So we cover all of that and then, Derek, you want to talk about the CL and like, how do you guys want to, well, cover a special.

Derek [00:01:09]:
Yanks of the ranks segment focusing on the women's team this week. So coverage of the Shiva leaves Cup results as well as the latest turmoil within that team. Ryan mentioned Geo's work there and then the Champions League. We had some commentary around the midweek results, particularly from the Arsenal and City games. The city game especially being a very exciting game mid week.

Ryan [00:01:37]:
Yeah. And then we close it out with a little discussion about the mayhem in turkish football right now, which I find very dramatic and interesting. Now, Luke, you have anything to add before we kick off the episode?

Luke [00:01:49]:
No, I just know I added a whole bunch of nonsense, so enjoy.

Ryan [00:01:54]:
We're happy to have you back, buddy. All right.

Derek [00:01:57]:
Welcome to the Football Yankees podcast. Yeah, we're american, but we're talking about soccer here. Hosts Derek Ryan and Luke are all football fanatics tracking our fellow yanks in the EPL and abroad. Enjoy today's episode.

Ryan [00:02:20]:
Welcome to the Football Yanks podcast. We're live. We're watching the Arsenal Villa game. Luke is here this week. I want the listeners to know that Luke dictates when we're recording to the minute, actually. Yeah. Took a shot of some shit in.

Luke [00:02:45]:
Tequila and then I'm here.

Ryan [00:02:46]:
You know, actually, people have been like, where the hell is Luke? And, and I'm like, guys, we work on his, like, entirely on his schedule.

Luke [00:02:54]:
Yeah.

Derek [00:02:54]:
I hope those same people enjoy having a show kick off at a different time every Sunday.

Ryan [00:02:59]:
Yeah, we work entirely on his schedule and then it's still completely random if he'll show up. You're welcome.

Derek [00:03:08]:
So welcome back, Luke.

Ryan [00:03:09]:
Yeah. How have you been?

Luke [00:03:12]:
I'm great. I did go out to the car when I texted you guys, I need to go get some beer. I got in the car and I was like, yo, I'm gonna get shit on so much if I'm, like, 15 minutes late. And here we are. So no change.

Ryan [00:03:22]:
Did you just. Just wake up? Is that. Is that what happened?

Luke [00:03:26]:
No, I woke up at, like, 08:00.

Ryan [00:03:28]:
But which is early. I've been packed from eight until the time you chose. You were like, can't go to the liquor store. And then, like, my wife was here.

Luke [00:03:39]:
And there are some things I won't even do in front of her. Like, go to liquor store at 10:00 in the morning.

Ryan [00:03:49]:
Doesn't she has to know?

Derek [00:03:50]:
Yeah, I know. Tess is way too smart. Like, Luke thinks he's getting one over. Like, there's no fucking way.

Ryan [00:03:57]:
I don't believe it. Yeah. So what have you been up to, man? The world needs to know, dude.

Luke [00:04:02]:
I don't. I don't even know. Like, I just got a new job, so things have been fucking nuts on that side, you know?

Derek [00:04:08]:
Are you in Kentucky this week?

Luke [00:04:09]:
Yeah, I fly out at 06:00 today.

Derek [00:04:11]:
Oh, you're leaving?

Luke [00:04:12]:
Yeah. Gotcha. All right. So that happened. I think Tess and I were traveling or something. It's been a little bit of a riled.

Ryan [00:04:20]:
Wild. Right?

Luke [00:04:21]:
Yeah. Wild ride. Thank you.

Ryan [00:04:22]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:04:23]:
So, yeah, it's just been. Just been one thing after another. So I know the listeners miss me. I'd be. I need to see some data on the percentage our listenership goes down when I'm not here as a way to incentivize for future compensation. I'm trying to.

Derek [00:04:39]:
Yeah, I know. I saw Luke. I played soccer with Luke.

Luke [00:04:42]:
That was two weeks.

Derek [00:04:46]:
For two weeks after that.

Luke [00:04:48]:
Oh, man. Dude, seeing you with soccer socks on with shorts halfway up your thighs.

Derek [00:04:56]:
Not sure what piece that he's fixating on.

Ryan [00:05:01]:
Ryan has left the call.

Luke [00:05:06]:
It was like as close to half chubb as I could get. Seeing Ryan, Derek, it was just like, oh, my God. So unexpected. And it was impressive. You know? Derek was still going in hard on the challenges.

Ryan [00:05:18]:
Yeah, I asked.

Derek [00:05:19]:
I tried to hold back a little bit.

Ryan [00:05:22]:
Yeah. I asked Shannon if he was still as psychotic as he always has been. And she was like, yeah, it seemed like the same old Derek.

Luke [00:05:29]:
Always. It's always on a sedge. I love it. Even on a throw in when no one's around him to grunt, that Derek.

Ryan [00:05:36]:
Throw, insert, it's like, oh, my God.

Luke [00:05:38]:
That dude has some pent up anger.

Ryan [00:05:43]:
Have you seen what he like? If he's pissed off, he will take a throw in and just hit the opposing team in the head.

Derek [00:05:55]:
I don't think Luke was there for that game, was he?

Ryan [00:05:58]:
Which? Dude, I've seen you do that, like, eight times over the. What do you mean?

Luke [00:06:04]:
Honestly, I most recently, like, I think it's always on the edge.

Derek [00:06:08]:
I don't know that I've only deadpegged somebody in the back of the head once. And Ryan was there for that.

Ryan [00:06:15]:
Yes. Yeah, but you've deadpegged them in. Directly in the front of their face several times that I've seen, sir. I didn't see them.

Derek [00:06:27]:
They were asking for a yellow car, and the ref literally wouldn't give it because he said, there's no way that wasn't an accident because it was so egregious. Literally, after the game, as a guess. Or that was definitely.

Ryan [00:06:38]:
Oh, shit. Kai. Kai was in there. Yeah, I'm on a delay here, so.

Derek [00:06:44]:
Ryan's gonna get, like, tell me what? Peak up.

Ryan [00:06:46]:
Why are you always on a delay over there?

Derek [00:06:49]:
Because I'm not stealing Internet from my neighbor like Lucas. I don't know.

Luke [00:06:53]:
Well, wait, but I'm watching it on my phone, and I'm also on a delay.

Derek [00:06:56]:
I think it's a shitty tcl roku.

Ryan [00:07:00]:
What do we think about Kai?

Derek [00:07:01]:
Garbage.

Luke [00:07:02]:
You don't get to call him Kai. No. Chelsea fan gets to call him Kai. It's only Havertz. There's no first name basis after you guys drove him out of Stanford Bridge.

Ryan [00:07:12]:
Wait, I don't think he was driven out of Stanford.

Luke [00:07:15]:
I think that everybody hated him.

Derek [00:07:17]:
Yeah, we drove Mountain Kai out. Yeah, that's what happened.

Ryan [00:07:21]:
So. Hi. I think so. Chelsea fans were pissed about Mount Kai. I think that, like, at least as far as I can tell. The Chelsea fans were like, yeah, he was kind of a bum. We always knew we were getting a mercenary with him. Like, there wasn't anywhere near the vitriol of, like, other people leaving.

Ryan [00:07:44]:
But I was like, what? I wouldn't I lose you guys? It got really quiet all of a sudden. No, no, I think Luke just. There's, like, a lot of background noise.

Luke [00:07:54]:
On my business, so I turned on.

Derek [00:07:57]:
It's pretty clear Mike's on mute, I guess.

Ryan [00:07:59]:
Yeah. Anyway, so. Yeah, Bowie. Bowie confirmed. We're watching him soonish. Yeah. Anyway, so, like, I did. So what I will cop to is that I actually know I've been back and forth.

Ryan [00:08:18]:
So, Derek, when. When the trade went through, I said that I thought that Kai's lack of performance was largely due to Chelsea's dysfunction and misuse of him and that I thought he would haunt us. The fact that we let him go, that was my initial assessment. Then after like half the Pl season, I was like, well, this guy might just be a big fucking bum. And now. I don't know, man. He's like, I think he's got more than a goal involvement per game since December, something like that. I'd have to look it up.

Ryan [00:08:53]:
But he, he's definitely been on one.

Luke [00:08:55]:
Like, he's, oh, he has a point to prove, right? Like, yeah, I. So I think, like, I'm not, I don't want to speak for you, but I do think that there was like a general resentment about, around Havertz at Chelsea because he was kind of representational of like the malaise of the club at the time, if that makes sense. It was like a lot of promise. A young player with a lot of potential without fulfilling fulfillment. And maybe that's a projection of the now more than you know when a year and a half ago or a year ago when he was there. But I'm happy for our havards. He has a point to prove. Like, he's playing well.

Luke [00:09:27]:
He has a manager that believes in him. I'm like kind of low on Tuchel. Tuchel, to be honest with you, after his performance at Bayern or after his tenure at Bayern, what part of the.

Ryan [00:09:37]:
Yeah, what specifically?

Luke [00:09:40]:
I just think that Thomas Tuchel is a whiny little bitch.

Derek [00:09:43]:
Like, you think conceding the league before you're actually eliminated was an odd.

Ryan [00:09:48]:
Well, before.

Luke [00:09:49]:
Yeah, he's.

Ryan [00:09:50]:
I assumed I, like, I was so exactly like, I thought it was actually mathematically done because he said that I didn't look into. I was like, oh, shit, it's over already. And then I like, reported that on this podcast and Derek was like, dude, it's. It's not over. He just, no, he won't.

Luke [00:10:15]:
Oh, yeah. Final and he wins. Like he kind of did with Chelsea in that season. Like, you've got to give him some more, some more credit maybe than I'm giving him now. And that was a good performance at Arsenal. Two two draw coming out is really good for them.

Derek [00:10:29]:
But Ryan has said that he's a good turn.

Ryan [00:10:33]:
He's a really good turner, good national.

Luke [00:10:35]:
Team coach, I think.

Ryan [00:10:36]:
Yep.

Luke [00:10:37]:
Doesn't have to have long term, like, personal relationships with players, which seems to be like. Or like, in the same way, you know, it's all a little shorter amount of time. Like, yeah, seems like his.

Derek [00:10:47]:
They'll be less adverse to him bringing his. His girlfriends around the locker room.

Luke [00:10:50]:
That's something he does.

Derek [00:10:52]:
That was one of the stories about him at Chelsea, like, when he was having the falling out with the locker room, was that he, like, just was blatantly flaunting, like, his new girlfriend while he was still married, like, to the play.

Luke [00:11:03]:
It's, like, the most thing you could do.

Derek [00:11:04]:
Granted how your players are in the hallway.

Ryan [00:11:09]:
There'S been, um. There's been a lot of rumors around whatever happened with. With him. So, like, the two big data points are, like, yeah, we've heard that those rumors about the locker room, but, like, on it, I guess, like, the big violation there is that he was. He was married still at the time, but, like, his marriage had been on the ropes for a while, and he had started dating is what I've, like, heard. But he was, like, bringing this, like, young, I think. I don't know. I don't want to, like, get into the details because we'll get some of it wrong.

Ryan [00:11:46]:
But he was, like, bringing her around the locker room. But there are other rumors. Like, Boli has been, like, all Boli has said is we, like, we're not discussing it, but there were, like, circumstances around that. Yeah. And who's the guy on talk sport? The, like, former Crystal palace owner? Is that Simon Jordan?

Luke [00:12:12]:
Simon Jordan, yeah. Got the glasses.

Ryan [00:12:15]:
Yeah, yeah. So he. Oh, yeah. Kai was way off. I hate that they don't flag. He was, like, his entire body was behind the defense.

Luke [00:12:26]:
Sometimes it takes way too long. Like, it really.

Ryan [00:12:29]:
Yeah. Like, and the, like, players get injured covering that.

Luke [00:12:33]:
Oh, yeah, right.

Ryan [00:12:34]:
Like, anyway, so he has said that Boli told him the things that Tuchel was doing, and it would be, like. Like, really eye opening if it ever came out.

Luke [00:12:51]:
So.

Ryan [00:12:51]:
So I don't think it's just that he was bringing his. His. His girlfriend around, but who knows? I don't know. He. He definitely is. Like, his, like, personal life seems like a complete disaster, and that's likely having an impact on how effective he is at managing a soccer club, but, yeah. Ooh.

Luke [00:13:12]:
Yeah. I feel. I feel like he does, like, he struggles to relate personally with players over a long period of time. Like, he's so, like, he's very, like, slightly like Derek, you know, on the edge. Like, he could turn at any moment. You know what I mean?

Ryan [00:13:32]:
Like, there's always. There. Yeah. There's always an element of tension in your interactions with him, you know?

Luke [00:13:39]:
Like, is this dude gonna kick me in the chest, or is he gonna.

Ryan [00:13:43]:
Give me a hug. What?

Derek [00:13:45]:
If I ever acted that way towards either of you two.

Luke [00:13:49]:
Oh, let me. Let me count the words.

Ryan [00:13:53]:
You have it? Yeah. I'm grateful that I'm on the good side.

Derek [00:14:00]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:14:00]:
Focus.

Derek [00:14:01]:
Don't fucking forget it. Okay, guys.

Ryan [00:14:06]:
So, yeah, Luke's punishment for missing so much time with the podcast is that of Tottenham getting absolutely, absolutely fucked up by Newcastle for nil, for nothing. Yeah. Yeah.

Luke [00:14:21]:
That wasn't pleasant.

Ryan [00:14:22]:
And Chelsea does not play until Monday, mercifully, so, there's nothing. I love this. So what were your thoughts on Tottenham's anemic performance yesterday, Luke?

Luke [00:14:38]:
Yeah, it was just really bad. Pretty inexcusable, to be honest with you. Like, in every position, they lost the battle. I will say, like I've said a few times, probably on the podcast, but, like, these kinds of performances are always coming with this Tottenham team. The way that, like, ange is just too much, like, right now in his project, that he sees, he's just too much, like, we're going to play one way. We're not going to adjust, we're not going to build tactic, like a plan tactically, we're just going to focus on ourselves. Like, when you invert two fullbacks and you have Harvey Barnes on one side and Gordon on one of the other, it's just like, you're gonna get found out. Like, yeah, this level, you're gonna get found out if you don't adjust.

Luke [00:15:19]:
And Bisuma can't cover the amount of pace space he was covering. Werner just doesn't look good. We did have a few chances. I thought we started the game well, but it was just like, not just really bad performance. Yeah. Nothing else.

Ryan [00:15:34]:
Timbo had a good chance early on. Blocked by.

Luke [00:15:39]:
No, he had one that came right to his feet about six yards out. And he just likes it. Just skimmed off his foot. Instead of putting his foot through it, he tried to guide it and it just slimmed across foot. And he did hit son with the ball once, too.

Ryan [00:15:52]:
Yeah. But that was also a good, like, he. For that shot. Like, he did. He did good work creating the space to get that shot off and for some reason had just, like, run across the goal in front of him. Um, yeah, that could have easily been a goal. I have no idea.

Luke [00:16:08]:
It was just a really, really, really bad performance, to be honest with you. There's just really nothing to be said about it. It's just disappointing.

Ryan [00:16:16]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:16:17]:
And I get.

Ryan [00:16:18]:
Are you. Are you plugging your phone into a charger?

Luke [00:16:21]:
I just plugged my computer into a charger.

Ryan [00:16:23]:
Okay. I didn't know if that was something going wrong with my computer if I was hearing it.

Luke [00:16:27]:
No, no, I was plugging.

Ryan [00:16:29]:
I know that's not Derek's. He. He uses some wack shit over there. Well, I think he's got, like, I.

Luke [00:16:35]:
Only have wack shit.

Ryan [00:16:36]:
So, like, a decade old Android and I don't know, like, his. His company's thinkpad or something.

Derek [00:16:46]:
I was looking to see if it was on my desk. Usually that piece of shit is on that. Rick, we're in a six year cycle replacement policy. Yeah, dude, it's. I.

Luke [00:16:59]:
Damn. It's like, those.

Derek [00:17:00]:
And my coworkers are like, why are you so frustrated with your job? I'm like, what?

Ryan [00:17:04]:
I don't understand. Well, I guess you guys don't have any, like, warranty requirement. Like, what the are you guys talking about?

Derek [00:17:14]:
We lost. We lost.

Ryan [00:17:15]:
Yeah, we completely. Yeah.

Derek [00:17:17]:
What was.

Ryan [00:17:19]:
Oh, you didn't know what a pip was I was talking about. Yeah, I was talking about having to, like, put someone on a pip or something. It looks like. What? Guys, what the hell's a pip? It's like, tell me you've never worked in corporate without telling me you've never worked in the corporate world. Well, yeah.

Luke [00:17:36]:
Anyway, now that's now sadly going to change, but I'm excited.

Ryan [00:17:40]:
Yeah. We don't have to talk about the nuances of maintaining it. Infrastructure and a refresh cycle.

Luke [00:17:46]:
That's a different podcast that.

Ryan [00:17:48]:
Yeah. So most overrated player in the Pl. Romero had a bad game. Vanda van really had a nightmare team.

Luke [00:18:01]:
It wasn't just the back line. They're just, like, exposed, exposed, exposed, you know?

Ryan [00:18:06]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:18:06]:
It was just bad.

Derek [00:18:08]:
The piece that I didn't see coming. Yeah, I think there's a good point about the tactics. I even think about that because I was pretty surprised the last couple results, to be honest.

Ryan [00:18:17]:
It's kind of interesting, like, if, like, there was a middle point between Ange and Pochettino. We're like, Pochettino is doing this, like, unnecessary tweaking. Like, he's tried fucking. Like he wouldn't play Matson in position. He's tried by chilling. He had. He had Gallagher as a winger, I think, against south south. Was it Southampton?

Luke [00:18:52]:
Anyway, well, what it reflects is, I think, one. You're right, or Sheffield. It reflects different perspectives. Pochettino is a more, I think, tactical manager, but it also reflects the kind of pressure that's on both managers. Ange isn't really concerned about finding the perfect solution. He's more interested in building the culture at the club, whatever that means. Right. We can critique that whole approach, whatever.

Luke [00:19:15]:
And then Pochettino is very much more under pressure to get results. So he's trying to make a fix that will work match to match instead of integrating a larger philosophy within the team, which is what he was able to do with spurs because he didn't have the same kind of pressure that he does at Tottenham. And Ange is just on this, like, and I don't always love his answers to these questions, but he's like, I don't care about fourth, I don't care what we do. It's about resetting the club and instilling a philosophy that for whatever. Yeah.

Derek [00:19:41]:
He's trying to find his eleven that's gonna work for next.

Luke [00:19:44]:
Exact. Yeah, exactly.

Derek [00:19:45]:
Pacha's throwing shit at the.

Luke [00:19:46]:
Because he's worried he's gonna lose his job.

Ryan [00:19:48]:
Do you think. Do you think Tottenham makes a splash this season? Like they've, like obviously. Yeah, they're obviously really. Yeah. In the offseason they're obviously like really, really fight. Like all these like big spending clubs are. Have like a vice around their neck because of the way FFP is being applied. Like PSR dramatically.

Ryan [00:20:13]:
Yeah, PSR, yeah. Whereas Tottenham have been like really measured in how they manage their club. And so like it's possible that, that there will be bargains to be had. Like, like it's possible that they've. Because there will be less competition, you would think. And so Tottenham maybe may be able to really start to build around that.

Derek [00:20:37]:
Tony for 40 million.

Luke [00:20:40]:
I think that's probably not the profile player in terms of age and like playing style, but I think. I think it's a good type of player. Right. Well, I think because of the return from the stadium, which again, like we've all critiqued, we can all make fun of because of the return from the events and the higher match day ticket. What, we're second behind United now. I think we will be able to spend a little bit more money comparatively. We did, we did have a loss. So it's not like we're in the clear necessarily, but we'll be able to buy like the two, three players.

Luke [00:21:10]:
Like the Brennan Johnson, like the Declan Rice is so van Devant. Oh, guys, next level. Like we're not going to go out and buy a Declan Rice $100 million player. I don't think that model change, but I think we'll sign like some van DER Ven's.

Ryan [00:21:24]:
All right, so different question. Do you think there will be millions hundred million dollar of signings? This. This offseason, like, do you think it's.

Luke [00:21:32]:
Come out of the market a little bit? Except for, like, Real Madrid.

Ryan [00:21:37]:
Like, those guys are flush.

Luke [00:21:38]:
What? Like, who else?

Ryan [00:21:40]:
Well, they're gonna pick up Mbappe. What? I don't even know who you add to.

Luke [00:21:45]:
I guess maybe you sell Rodrigo, right? Rodrigo's incredible, but, yeah, Rodrigo, you're gonna bridge the gap, like, what, 60 million minimum for what they're gonna have to pay out to Mbappe's agents and Mbappe. Like, come on. Like, in such good position at.

Derek [00:22:03]:
To Ryan's point. Right. They're the only team that doesn't have to sell a piece. Yeah, they just do whatever the hell they want.

Ryan [00:22:08]:
Yeah, they've just managed.

Luke [00:22:10]:
I do things.

Ryan [00:22:11]:
So.

Luke [00:22:12]:
Levy has proved an incredibly shrewd operator within the PSR FFP era, and I think we'll be positioned well. That's my. That's my take on it.

Ryan [00:22:23]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:22:24]:
Let's go. More Beyonce, baby. Give me a couple shows. I'll get you a Declan rice. And maybe doesn't need to fucking slide all over the pitch in one game, but, yeah, he's been one of the best center backs in the. In the league this season.

Ryan [00:22:39]:
He got cursed. Yeah, cursed by the announcers. Like, before the game, they were talking about how he was, like, one of the signings of the season, and then he had just the worst game I've seen.

Luke [00:22:49]:
I still think he is, like, one game aside, right? Dude's incredible. The first one's unlucky, right? He really does slip. The second one is pretty terrible.

Ryan [00:22:58]:
Defending the defender you guys signed in December, drag wasn't. Yeah, he hasn't gotten much.

Luke [00:23:06]:
Not that good.

Ryan [00:23:07]:
Yeah, I don't think he's very good.

Luke [00:23:09]:
He's not good.

Ryan [00:23:09]:
You guys should. Speaking of a culture change, you guys should try signing good players.

Luke [00:23:14]:
Um, like Vanda van Duke. Britney Johnson's been pretty good from forest, like you guys.

Ryan [00:23:21]:
Yeah, he has been pretty good. Yeah.

Luke [00:23:24]:
Even Pedro Poros mostly come around and shown his quality, but, you know, there are some duds, like, Richarlison in there that Timo. I really hope we don't sign Tito Werner. If we tie spot, like, 15 mil for Timo. Werner is actually kind of, like. It does make sense.

Ryan [00:23:38]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:23:38]:
But I don't ever want him to start a game. Ever.

Ryan [00:23:42]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:23:42]:
Ever. He's just not that good like, he is. He.

Ryan [00:23:46]:
Why is he starting so, like, I.

Luke [00:23:49]:
Just don't think Richardson's injured.

Ryan [00:23:51]:
Is that what's going on?

Luke [00:23:52]:
Yeah, I don't think Richardson's fit.

Ryan [00:23:54]:
Okay. And you guys don't have. So you're playing sun as a nine and you don't have another left winger.

Luke [00:24:01]:
Well, usually Johnson will play on the left, like, in my best formation, and then Kulu's on the right. But Kulu is so out of form. It's just kind of like he hasn't been playing.

Ryan [00:24:14]:
So is Brendan Johnson playing on the right yesterday?

Luke [00:24:17]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:24:18]:
Okay.

Luke [00:24:19]:
And basically what Angie's saying, let's put all of our pace on the pitch and maybe win in transition. But he doesn't want to win in transition. He wants to win by holding the ball, which is what, like, we need Richarlsson and the team to do that.

Ryan [00:24:33]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:24:34]:
Our squad is pretty thin, too. We do have some options, finally, but the squad is thin.

Ryan [00:24:39]:
Yeah.

Derek [00:24:41]:
Yeah. Hoyberg in the try and save the day. Yes.

Luke [00:24:46]:
Dude, he changed the game against Forest, but, yeah. He's just not. Yeah. Hoiberg needs to be sold this summer. That's a good. That's cool. Like, that'll be some good income. We've got.

Luke [00:24:56]:
Some players will sell for sure, hopefully.

Ryan [00:24:58]:
Do you think you'll sell Hoiberg Gill.

Luke [00:25:01]:
Who won't be worth very much? Jed Spence, probably. I think we'll try to sell Richarlson to Saudi Arabia like that.

Ryan [00:25:09]:
Really?

Luke [00:25:09]:
I think so, yeah. That's the move for.

Ryan [00:25:11]:
Do you think he'll go?

Luke [00:25:12]:
I think he would go, yeah.

Derek [00:25:13]:
No, he's been talking a lot more positively about, like, his mental health and his place in the team. Why would you want to go to some shithole money? Yeah, but, like, you would think he's beyond that if you listen to him.

Ryan [00:25:26]:
He's too young to go to Saudi. Isn't he?

Luke [00:25:28]:
Like, his size? He's like 26, 25. 26.

Ryan [00:25:31]:
That's too young. Yeah, you're right.

Luke [00:25:33]:
Yeah, I hear that. I think we're gonna try to sell him, though.

Ryan [00:25:36]:
Yeah, it's possible. He doesn't, like, care about his career, but there's got to be a market for him somewhere.

Luke [00:25:44]:
The number nine market is really, really thin.

Derek [00:25:46]:
It's too young for Saudi Arabia, but it's too old for Saudi Armani.

Ryan [00:25:55]:
I forgot about that.

Luke [00:25:56]:
Were you cooking that one up?

Ryan [00:25:59]:
It's been such a deplorable season with all the off field shit. Yeah. What absolutely is that guy who they, like, are hiding in Spain right now on United. Greenwood. Yeah. I wonder what. I wonder what's gonna happen to him.

Luke [00:26:20]:
Greenwood's gonna get sold for sure.

Ryan [00:26:22]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:26:23]:
I couldn't imagine the new ownership group would want to start their, like, football management side. And with Greenwood back in, like, it's.

Derek [00:26:32]:
Just weird to me they didn't come out with a hard line stance to begin with. Like, basically what he said was, we're gonna evaluate the situation objectively and not without, like, take into account all the factors. Right. But, you know, fair enough. But, like, you've had plenty of time to figure out what's going on.

Ryan [00:26:52]:
Yeah. It's just so open and shut. Well, I get that with the Anthony, like, oh, Kaizen. Kaizen. Nope. Great defending.

Luke [00:27:05]:
I'm so far behind you. Yeah.

Ryan [00:27:07]:
Sorry.

Luke [00:27:07]:
So just tell us it's happening. Thank you.

Derek [00:27:11]:
Neither of us have the same Internet speed that Ryan does, apparently.

Ryan [00:27:15]:
Or shitty routine. You've got fios or whatever over there.

Derek [00:27:19]:
I think it's because I'm on the Roku app.

Luke [00:27:22]:
Oh, just using my cellular data.

Ryan [00:27:25]:
Step it up to the Apple tv, man.

Derek [00:27:28]:
Yeah, I have access to that too.

Ryan [00:27:31]:
Oh, man, Kai might be dead.

Luke [00:27:34]:
What? Stop commenting on the fucking games.

Ryan [00:27:40]:
Being sarcastic. He's such a shithouser, man. Like, he. He acts like any. Anytime he. He gets bumped, he acts like he. He took a bullet. Like.

Ryan [00:27:51]:
And he's always been that way. And he.

Derek [00:27:52]:
I mean, I remember that from the Bundesliga.

Ryan [00:27:54]:
Yeah, we've seen him dive like crazy this season. I don't know why he hasn't been, like, carded a lot more for that. Yeah, for simulation. Derek, who do you think, since we're. And then we'll start rolling through these games. But, uh, one more tangent. This isn't. I mean, this isn't really a tangent.

Ryan [00:28:14]:
So we made Luke go over, like, some of the moves that he'd like to see this offseason. What? Like, what do you. What. What would you like to see Chelsea do? Like, who do you think they can move on? Who do you think they would move on? Like, what. What would you do to salvage this. This team? Like, what can be done?

Derek [00:28:35]:
Gotta find, like, four or five pieces that the sell. Just from a quantity standpoint. There's too many players, right? So, like, you gotta, like the obvious ones, like Lukaku. Just have to come off the books. Right? And then who the, you know, get. Gallagher's got to be expendable when you've. When you've invested that much more in the rest of your, you know, your rest. You.

Derek [00:28:59]:
Your midfield, I guess, unless you're going to relegate him to a squad player role, which I don't know if he wants to do that, but you. But then, yeah, wingers, you know, sterling, to me, is obvious. Maybe he's not obvious to people that outside of you and me, but to me he's at the top of the list.

Ryan [00:29:16]:
I don't know how you got rid of him.

Luke [00:29:17]:
His contract is way. He's way too leveraged at the club. Like that would be like who's going to buy him for what you need? And if you're going to get him off the book.

Derek [00:29:24]:
But if he's making that much money now, maybe that's what he's fixated on and maybe you can just ship doing them to Saudi Arabia.

Ryan [00:29:30]:
They didn't play a lot for Sterling. He's on a. He's on a big wave.

Derek [00:29:35]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:29:35]:
More talking about the wage packet.

Derek [00:29:37]:
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Maybe they. Maybe that's what he's fixated on and maybe you can. You can parlay that into something else, but. And then you're right, mad Wake is at risk given the amount of attacking options we have. And because, you know, even though it's a on cost fallacy, you're kind of beholden to Mudrick unless you can put them out on loans. So maybe loans are a good option for more of these players once we're healthy. It's just I think it's tricky to.

Derek [00:30:06]:
Tricky to pull off. You'd have to loan mad Wake as an example, somewhere where he's going to start. Right. Because he's in the England mix and he wants to get to that level and compete at that level and he should. He can. Right. So I don't know if there's an easy answer outside of, you know, it's for me. Maybe it's a hot take, but they gotta find a way to get sterling out of there.

Luke [00:30:26]:
I feel like the loan market is gonna be key. The loan market is key. I think. I think you hit on that really well. Get some players in that have a little more experience. Get some players out to get some experience. Maybe without as much yeti. Not even.

Luke [00:30:43]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:30:48]:
Did you see that? I've got a note, like later. I know. Luke doesn't read these. Luke doesn't read these or show up at all.

Derek [00:31:07]:
I'm in the notes. Thanks for pulling this together.

Ryan [00:31:13]:
Yeah. So, Chelsea, it's Naz Nazar kinsella. I didn't turn this into a link so I have to manually paste it in but I don't want to get the details of this wrong. Chelsea FC holdings sold a hotel to Blueco, which is the parent company of Chelsea. So Chelsea, the entity sold a hotel that it held to its parent company for 76 million pounds, which is thought to be in a mo, a move to reduce the 90.1 million loss from last season. Yeah. So anyway, they're like shuffling assets around.

Luke [00:32:00]:
That sounds like I'm not an accountant.

Derek [00:32:02]:
Guy, but that sounds, I mean, an accounting standpoint. Yeah, it's just shuffling, right. I don't understand how that would help them. And this is where I get. I, admittedly, I just need to spend time to try and understand it. I don't understand why financial fair play would treat that as an arm's length transaction.

Ryan [00:32:18]:
Yeah, I have no idea. I just. Yeah, it was something I saw. I don't know. I don't know.

Luke [00:32:25]:
Creative.

Ryan [00:32:26]:
Yeah. The Todd. The Todd father yesterday said that, that Chelsea are like fully compliant and they will be making a splash in the market this season, which it's just like, unfathomable to me that we'll be, we'll be doing that.

Luke [00:32:40]:
But I think that's the old put on a really good face so your investors don't freak the fuck out.

Ryan [00:32:48]:
Yeah. When this season wraps, what we should do is like, Luke, you can put together your, like, your dream plan for Tottenham. And I guess like me or Derek or both can like, put together what we think is realistic for Chelsea.

Derek [00:33:02]:
I'm just going to read the financial fair play bylaws for 6 hours.

Ryan [00:33:06]:
That's what my off season is. Then apply for the position.

Derek [00:33:12]:
Well, any number. I guess I could be a CFO for any of these clubs. If all you have to do is shuffle ship between operating companies.

Ryan [00:33:23]:
Yeah. Arsenal have looked like fairly well in control of this game, which I guess would be expected.

Luke [00:33:29]:
Yeah, that's the change. That's the big change in this arsenal team. They control shit. Yeah, like that. Even that game against them city, right? Like while City had the ball the whole time, they still controlled it. Like, they're. Everything Arteta's done is to find ways to control the game. Whether or not that's playing attractive football or not, it doesn't fucking matter to him.

Luke [00:33:49]:
I still hate Arteta, but you got to give them credit for it.

Ryan [00:33:53]:
Yeah. They're such a good little bitch. I think I'm like, once again in a position where I have to root for Man City to win this fucking league and. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't know.

Luke [00:34:06]:
I'm on the same board.

Ryan [00:34:07]:
Like, the thought of Arsenal winning the league, it makes me sick to my stomach. And I just want the Liverpool, the Klopp farewell tour just fully derailed, which they kind of have today. It did happen and it impacts. It impacts both our teams because, like, if Chelsea think they have a shot at any european football next season, we need that additional Europe slot from the coefficient. And the way that coefficient is calculated is based on how the different countries teams perform in european competitions and the draws this week in the Champions League and Liverpool getting destroyed against Atalanta, that has reduced the coefficient to the point that I think as it stands right now, England will not get an additional slot.

Luke [00:35:03]:
It's essentially between Germany and Germany and England right now. Right?

Ryan [00:35:07]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Derek [00:35:08]:
I do want them to be single advance.

Luke [00:35:11]:
Yeah. They need to be Bayern Munich and I don't.

Ryan [00:35:13]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:35:14]:
Lever cousin will not lose the West Ham, but.

Derek [00:35:16]:
No, you're saying Arsenal and City need to advance.

Ryan [00:35:19]:
Yeah, yeah, that would be helpful. Yeah.

Luke [00:35:22]:
I really want Arsenal to be Bayern Munich and then lose immediately after.

Ryan [00:35:26]:
Yeah.

Derek [00:35:27]:
What did you guys think of those games? Did you get. Watch any highlights?

Ryan [00:35:30]:
No, it's about.

Luke [00:35:31]:
Of the Champions League games. I mean, the Man City Real Madrid game was of the highest quality.

Derek [00:35:37]:
That.

Luke [00:35:39]:
Exciting things I've ever watched in my life.

Derek [00:35:40]:
I was, you know, 60% paying attention to it. I saw the goals kind of relatively live and. Yeah, I got that impression. I don't know if I had volume up. I got that impression watching it and, like, the fan reaction was similar to what you said, right. Like, yeah. Real. Really a classic Champions League knockout stage.

Luke [00:36:00]:
Mac matchup, that Valverde finish to tie it. Oh, my God.

Derek [00:36:05]:
Yeah. A lot of great shooting in that. That game, but. Yeah. And, like, interestingly enough, Arsenal and City were both behind to start those games and, you know, clawed back.

Luke [00:36:20]:
Well, city scores. City scored the first game against Real Madrid. Scored the first goal against Real Madrid.

Derek [00:36:26]:
They went down two one, though.

Luke [00:36:27]:
Yeah. They were down two one. Yeah. Yeah.

Ryan [00:36:29]:
You guys are behind me. Look at Zaniola's leg. It's just like giant roman numerals. I don't know what that could possibly be.

Luke [00:36:39]:
Dude, he's italian. Stop it.

Ryan [00:36:41]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:36:42]:
Spurs tried to pick him up a couple years ago.

Ryan [00:36:47]:
Anyway. Yeah, I wasn't here able to catch the cl the midweek.

Derek [00:36:51]:
I mean, that was gist of it. Two good games.

Luke [00:36:54]:
Arsenal was good as well. It was just a different kind of game.

Derek [00:36:58]:
Yeah. I mean, yeah, so be, you know, all the play for people should make up for a pretty exciting, you know, return leg. Right. So we'll see how the prime does there.

Luke [00:37:10]:
Yeah. I really, really need them. We're not. After losing to New Newcastle like that, we play the top three teams all here at the end of the season. Like, we need fifth place. Spurs does if Newcastle doesn't catch us up anyway, which I think there's a pretty good chance of.

Derek [00:37:27]:
Fair.

Luke [00:37:28]:
Yeah. Any other games this week worth talking about? Should we talk about Manu?

Ryan [00:37:34]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:37:35]:
So because it's like, that's a hobby.

Ryan [00:37:38]:
Of ours, we should touch on. I mean, the other impactful, the truly impactful game for this title race was the Liverpool palace, which Liverpool lost one nil. It was an essay goal. Is that right?

Derek [00:37:56]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:37:57]:
Watched this. I watched this. I woke up to watch this this morning. It was palace looks different when they have Eze and Elisa. I was pretty surprised to hear that. It's only the fifth time that they've played together this season like that. Those are big injuries for them to be juggling. Elise looks great.

Ryan [00:38:17]:
And honestly, like, oh, I thought you were ballers. I thought Arsenal was in there. Sorry, I'm. I can't do anything about that. I guess I could, like, rewind. I don't know. I'm not even fully live.

Luke [00:38:30]:
Could you shut the fuck up?

Derek [00:38:32]:
Yeah, I was about to. Thank you, Luke. Anyway, I don't want the anger issues, so I didn't want to be that guy, but thank you.

Ryan [00:38:40]:
Yeah, there's nothing I can do about it.

Derek [00:38:44]:
The thing is, if only there's something I could do.

Ryan [00:38:48]:
The thing is, we're. We're recording a podcast, right.

Derek [00:38:53]:
It's about the EPL.

Ryan [00:38:56]:
That's the. You see the tension there between me not talking. Yeah, Elise looked great. I thought Mateda looked fantastic.

Luke [00:39:12]:
Yeah, that dude can hold the fucking ball, man.

Ryan [00:39:15]:
Yeah. Did a job today and then like, I don't know, I thought that Liverpool really turned it on there in the last, like 25 minutes of this one or so. Like 25, 30 minutes. And the defending and the goaltending, like Henderson was phenomenal in this one.

Derek [00:39:38]:
But the end of the day, to me, it's the same story just with a different result. Right. They've been doing this themselves all season. Going behind, then trying to claw back, taking red cards, trying to claw back. And they. I think, you know, I think in fairness, they did enough to win this game in totality, but didn't exist. They gave up a goal because, you know, they. The team defending was lacking and I think that's the difference for a lot of these teams.

Derek [00:40:06]:
But behind the top two and you see it with Chelsea week in and week out as an example. Right? Like, there's times when teams switch off and they don't get numbers behind the ball and it's not like complex tactical, right. It's just getting back and marking a man. Endos wandering around in his 18, just kind of lackadaisical and, like, meanwhile, you see people like. And then, you know, Nunez got called out, too for bad defending at one point, right? Like, it's a team game and nobody is absolved of defense. And I'll say one thing that stood out to me, the ghost of Lukaku in the game against Milan this week was like, he tracks back and he tries to defend whatever they've managed to convince him of. Like, he sees that role on that team and, like, plays it right. Not everybody, not all eleven on every one of these teams is doing that right now.

Ryan [00:40:56]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:40:57]:
Yes. Is what it was interesting watching Lukaku play. Lukaku play in that game. I watched a little bit of that totally different player of which game? The Milan Roma. Right?

Ryan [00:41:08]:
Oh, yeah.

Derek [00:41:09]:
He's like a physical menace sometimes. It's interesting.

Ryan [00:41:14]:
Yeah. Sorry, I was, like, half paying attention while I looked up the XG for the Liverpool. Good news.

Derek [00:41:20]:
The takeaway from that, Ryan, is like, hopefully we can get, like, ten or $12 for Lukaku.

Ryan [00:41:24]:
Yeah, yeah, I would hope so. We'll see, though, his salary demand, his wage demand is insane, although we've knocked that down a bit. Like, we basically, we were like, you can go kick a ball around with the 21s if you don't take a wage reduction.

Derek [00:41:40]:
There's a flight headed to Saudi Arabia in June and he. Sterling. Everybody else can get on board.

Ryan [00:41:47]:
I don't. I think that. I think Sterling's gonna do it.

Luke [00:41:51]:
I think Saudi's kind of done spending the money that they were.

Ryan [00:41:53]:
I also think Saudi's gonna be coming.

Derek [00:41:56]:
Back and then they're gonna have to offset it. And Cristiano's done.

Ryan [00:42:01]:
They have players who they can't even register to play because of their league rules, which I guess they could just change. I think it's just like a dictatorship. And they can do. But, like. Yeah, yeah, these.

Derek [00:42:12]:
What are these rules you speak?

Ryan [00:42:15]:
They only have, like. They can only have, like, a certain number of foreign players, but they just keep buying them anyway and they're. They just can't even register them to play right now.

Derek [00:42:25]:
Just put them on the World cup post. Yeah, yeah.

Ryan [00:42:28]:
Yes. They're. They're literally, like, paid ambassadors for their World cup, is what. Yeah, but they already landed the World cup, so I don't think they're gonna be making as much of a splash.

Derek [00:42:38]:
This season to play in empty stadiums.

Luke [00:42:40]:
Yeah.

Ryan [00:42:40]:
So what would you think Liverpool's XG was in that one? I'll tell you. Crystal palace is.

Luke [00:42:47]:
There must have been like three 2.8 good shots.

Ryan [00:42:51]:
It was a 3.393.39. I didn't let Eric. Yes. Sorry, man.

Derek [00:42:57]:
That's okay. I was speaking over it, but that's a little bit lower than I would have thought based on the chances in the second half.

Ryan [00:43:03]:
Yeah, yeah.

Luke [00:43:04]:
That. I think they've run out of energy. I just kind of seem like even that Atlantic. Is that how you say, what did the game against Atlanta, right? Yeah, Atlanta. Thank you. Yeah, it was a kind of a carbon copy other than the fact they were a lot more goals in the Europa League. It was just like the energy wasn't there. The, you know, I think they're how.

Derek [00:43:28]:
Much that is Klopp's fault for starting, like, you know, scrubs like Harvey Elliott, dude.

Luke [00:43:34]:
Harvey. Harvey Elliot.

Derek [00:43:36]:
He had a really, in fairness, he had a really good, I made a note. He had a really good shot that deserved to be a goal in the first half of that. That probably would have changed that game.

Ryan [00:43:45]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:43:45]:
They just, they just seem like they've run out of some energy. You can't ride that last dance thing forever. Yeah. You know, it's, it's kind of too long of a season to really get with that.

Ryan [00:43:55]:
Yeah. Announce that shit in, in December or whatever he did and. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, dude, I, this dude, this picture is so fucking funny. Can I put in our chat? I don't know that it'll, it'll let me drag.

Derek [00:44:12]:
Luke won't see it.

Ryan [00:44:13]:
Yeah, I am looking at the notes right now. I'm just gonna drop it in the, at the very bottom.

Derek [00:44:26]:
Did you see his facial expression when, when palace scored that goal after completing like, 45 consecutive passes in the lead up?

Luke [00:44:34]:
Yeah, I swear that that dude, like, pulls his dentures out of his mouth and like, they roll in his, on his gums when he's mad. His teeth come so far out, it's like, whoa.

Ryan [00:44:44]:
I don't, they're not, I don't think they're dentures. I think they're veneers.

Luke [00:44:49]:
I don't care what they are.

Ryan [00:44:50]:
You brought this up. For some reason. I was so interested. I, like, looked into what work clopid had done, and I think it was veneers.

Luke [00:44:58]:
Yeah, whatever.

Ryan [00:44:59]:
I'm all about the accuracy with cosmetic procedures on this podcast. All right? I watched, for some reason, I watched Burnley and Brighton just because I'm like a big Brighton stan at this point and that was one of the worst games I've ever watched. Well, this season it was just lousy. Both goals were. Were errors of some sort. Like, I forget what. I think Belay might have like passed it straight back to one of Burnley's. Who scored in this? Josh Brownhill.

Ryan [00:45:42]:
Yeah. Okay. I think Beleiba like passed it back and Brownhill scored first and then Murich. Is that how you say his name? Murich? If you guys haven't seen the gold step over. Yeah. Like he practically just kicked it into his own net to. To like squander the points for. For Burnley.

Ryan [00:46:05]:
I asked Shannon if the women of Burnley Baltimore division had any comments on this and she said no comment. Okay.

Derek [00:46:14]:
I was expecting more of a reaction from such an extensive fan base.

Ryan [00:46:18]:
Right. Yeah. The reason I wanted to bring this up and then I want to talk about the Man United game though is there is something about like, I don't even think Luke. I mean, I won't speak for you, like, chime in after I wrap this thought up, but, like, Chelsea don't deserve to be behind man U and the table, the way the teams are playing, but we just don't have. Have the voodoo that Man United seem to have where they. They're like, they're allowing like 30 shots a game and like, not. I think they have a negative goal differential. They have not even scored many goals.

Ryan [00:47:08]:
But the goals they've scored have been such that they're like in a Europe slot and were for. I think it's finally the door is shut on this. But there was like a possibility for them to be top four, top five. I think it's done now. But the reason I bring this up is in this Burnley Brighton game, like Murich had the game of his life against Chelsea. It was fucking crazy, the stops he was making. He was easily the man of the match and he's looked terrible ever since. Like.

Ryan [00:47:44]:
And in this game he literally scored a goal on himself to squander two points. But like, he had the game of his life against Chelsea a couple weeks ago and it's just been that kind of season. I think I've said a few times, like, some of the goals that get scored on us are like, I just never us score those goals or those.

Derek [00:48:10]:
Other teams score them against anyone else.

Ryan [00:48:11]:
Yeah. They'll just do like a volley from outside the box.

Luke [00:48:16]:
Like that must. Yeah. Like overhead kick against Everton kind of thing.

Derek [00:48:20]:
Yeah, there's some of that variability happens.

Ryan [00:48:23]:
To Chelsea so much this season. Yeah. Anyway, so that's. Those are my thoughts. Like, I just like, man United are so fucking bad and somehow they are where they are. Luke, do you have any, like, counters to any of that or.

Luke [00:48:41]:
Yeah, I think that the front three of Grenacho, Hoyland and Rashford is by far and away better than any combination that Chelsea can put up front outside of maybe Cole Palmer, like, as a player, but in combination, as a top three, they don't have a combination that's as lethal, especially in transition. So I think. I do think that there is a difference in quality and attacking ability in some areas of the pitch.

Derek [00:49:09]:
Ryan, are you going to let this attack?

Ryan [00:49:11]:
I don't.

Derek [00:49:11]:
Nico Jackson.

Ryan [00:49:12]:
I don't think, like, how could you say that?

Luke [00:49:16]:
I just think it's true. So I'm kind of.

Derek [00:49:20]:
I think it's self evident.

Luke [00:49:22]:
I'm responding to you. You're kind of like, yeah, I think that, you know, it's basically a coin flip between the shittiest smell coming from both teams. So, like, I don't. I like, I don't know, I don't see your big issue. I think Chelsea have been fucking awful this year, generally.

Ryan [00:49:41]:
Yeah. They haven't.

Luke [00:49:41]:
Like, and there's not that much space between them and the table, realistically. Maybe, you know, like what, what Chelsea hasn't been able to do is score late goals to win games quite as much. This is. Man United has done that a lot.

Ryan [00:49:56]:
This is not a defense of Chelsea. It is a critique of Man United. Yeah.

Luke [00:50:03]:
Yeah. I think that there is a little bit of something, like, there's definitely just a little bit more quality in. In the final third, in my opinion, so.

Ryan [00:50:12]:
But Chelsea have scored far more goals than that.

Luke [00:50:15]:
But I mean, in the, in the, in the games that matter essentially, to me. Like, they've.

Ryan [00:50:19]:
There's been more than a ghost, this.

Luke [00:50:22]:
But it's still on the transition. He takes so much space. He's pretty good. McTominay. That's the fucking difference.

Ryan [00:50:30]:
He is a difference maker.

Luke [00:50:32]:
Yeah. I think that you're picking between two big piles of shit that basically are the same size, smell the same. They're just a pew few, like feet between them.

Ryan [00:50:43]:
Fucking terrible.

Luke [00:50:44]:
Yeah.

Derek [00:50:44]:
I mean, I guess if you throw out Rashford, right, and you say Bruno Hoylen in gun show, like, fair enough. Like that three is. I think it compares favorably to if we pick out, like, Palmer, Nico, and I don't know who the fuck even is the third attacker.

Luke [00:51:03]:
And there is more experience in that locker room, too, if you think about it. While we talk about Man United being leaderless, still having Varan in the room, even having Harry Maguire, even having Casimiro in the room, gives you like, that's that five point difference right there. That's how.

Ryan [00:51:20]:
Yeah, describe it.

Luke [00:51:22]:
But again, I don't think there's much separating them.

Derek [00:51:24]:
Who was drunk on who scored and gave Casimiro 7.0 in this game?

Luke [00:51:31]:
He walks. All so done, he might as well.

Derek [00:51:35]:
Not even be on the field. Yeah, what the fuck?

Ryan [00:51:37]:
I said he's retired in place yesterday.

Derek [00:51:39]:
Is how sirs are just letting him. Fucking habit. They're like, mano's out there playing by himself.

Ryan [00:51:46]:
Yeah, they were. They were.

Derek [00:51:50]:
They were, I think, probably a high level of automation to these.

Luke [00:51:54]:
What do you guys think of Mano coming through? You think he's as good as everyone thinks? Or is he a little overhyped? Because he's coming through Man United? And that team is such a shit, frankly.

Ryan [00:52:05]:
Who. Who knows? Because. Because United is such a shit show. Like, yeah, I.

Derek [00:52:14]:
He does look like he's supremely talented to me.

Ryan [00:52:16]:
Yeah, he does that look talented?

Derek [00:52:18]:
High ceiling.

Ryan [00:52:19]:
He needs to get the fuck out of this dysfunctional club, dude. If. If ten Hag had any balls and any control over this team, he would fucking bench Rashford. Rashford isn't even playing for this team anymore. I like, that was another thing.

Derek [00:52:36]:
The announcers forget about offensive contributions. Like, his team play is dog.

Ryan [00:52:41]:
Yeah, he looks completely checked out. And he looked during the Chelsea game, like, especially. It was. He wasn't even running in that one.

Luke [00:52:51]:
Do you think that's a. That's more. Do you think that's a function of some of ten hags? Like, tactical ideas? Because really, the team is playing wide open. Every game, the team allows the game to be stretched and open. So they're kind of, like, taking the risk and saying, all right, we're not really good enough to build up and to score against a deep block. Let's open the game up. Leave Rashford High, let Dallas suffer or Basuma suffer a little bit, but transition really quickly up that.

Derek [00:53:21]:
I don't think it's that organized, because if you look at, like, Rashford's latest snafu, where I said he was wandering around the box, Palmer gets the ball and schools the game winning goal. Right? He's not marking a guy inside the six. He's not standing at the top trying to break out and win the game. And so, like, I think it's more to Ryan's point, like, lackadaisicalness than it.

Ryan [00:53:43]:
Is anything actual I think ten hogs should drop him. And I think that he shouldn't be on the plane for England Rashford. But yeah, that might be a hot take.

Luke [00:53:54]:
I don't think starts, but I think he's on the plane.

Ryan [00:53:57]:
Yeah, I think he should just be fully dropped from club and country and let him think about if he wants to play professional soccer anymore. I don't know, he just listless.

Derek [00:54:10]:
I'm hoping United claw enough points that ten hawk keeps his job because this, this the entertainment. Like, I'm glad at one point I was really pissed off that somehow I got suckered into this podcast this season where Chelsea is an absolute atrocity. But then I do seasons.

Ryan [00:54:28]:
This is the norm now.

Luke [00:54:29]:
Yeah.

Derek [00:54:30]:
Yeah, I thought there was gonna be a return to form. I'm delusional. Yeah, delusion. I'm more delusional than a United fan, which makes me happy because that bag of shit is the gift that keeps on giving every one of these games. Even when they claw out a point, they still look terrible. And I love it, and I want more ten hog.

Ryan [00:54:48]:
Yeah, I mean, that's how I felt about Ollie Gunnar Solshard when he was there too.

Derek [00:54:53]:
Yeah, he never had a chance. That guy was dead man walking the day.

Luke [00:54:58]:
Didn't pass the smell test. Like, nah, you're not getting me good at this. Right? You know, like, that coworker. Like, this is not what you should be doing.

Derek [00:55:08]:
And the co worker kind of knows.

Luke [00:55:09]:
He'S a fraud too.

Derek [00:55:10]:
And he's like, yeah, I'm just doing the best, best I can here.

Ryan [00:55:18]:
What do you guys think about. Or I guess me and Derek talked about this last week, Luke, I should say, how do you feel about Onanna now? And let me frame this. This is like how I framed it last week. So he. He made, in my opinion. I mean, he saved. He saved a point, I guess, for Man United. He made an incredible save.

Ryan [00:55:44]:
I forget who took the shot, but it was just a total reaction. Saved, I think. Dove down to his left and palmed it away. This guy is facing. They were talking about this in the commentary yesterday, but he's facing 20 to 30 shots per game. Like it's a firing squad from this team. In the month of. What was it? I wish I still had it handy, but it was like in the month of March, Man United allowed 225 shots on goal or something like that.

Luke [00:56:16]:
What?

Ryan [00:56:17]:
Like, yeah, that's.

Luke [00:56:19]:
Fuck, that's a lot. So, yeah, I, you know, I would.

Ryan [00:56:22]:
Say I might be overstating it, but it's like directionally it's like crazy.

Luke [00:56:26]:
I've been on a pretty bad team with, like, above average goalie, where there are a ton of shots that make the goalie look, like, really, really good. I think that's some of it. You know, if volume of shots is going at Onana, he's going to save a volume of shots, you know, some percentage of that, and some of them are going to be good. I still think that he is not. I think he has a lot to work on in terms of his goalkeeping technique, the way he sets himself, the way that he is positioned, his positional play. I think he. He does play out from the back. Well, his diagonal balls are good, but I just think he lets in too many soft goals for this.

Luke [00:57:01]:
The strong save versus the strong saves he has, he makes. You know what I mean? That was kind of. Yeah, it was almost like Loris, towards the end of his first career, he was still making these, like, really acrobatic fucking saves, but starting to let in all these, like, really cheap, shitty ones. You know, it's kind of how, you know, a goalkeeper is on the downtrend in his career, usually, but Onana should be on the up. Right. His techniques, just not good enough. Like his body position, his shape. Yeah.

Derek [00:57:27]:
How many. How many saves do you think Netto had in this one, Ryan?

Luke [00:57:31]:
Three.

Derek [00:57:34]:
60.

Luke [00:57:36]:
Really?

Ryan [00:57:37]:
Zero save. Okay.

Derek [00:57:38]:
Zero.

Ryan [00:57:39]:
Wow. Well, there was a pen, right? One was a pen, so it was a great shot from Bruno.

Derek [00:57:48]:
True.

Ryan [00:57:48]:
That's a thing, man. Like, they just exist on these moments of magic that never happened. Almost never happen for Chelsea.

Luke [00:57:55]:
You know, what does happen to do is to rely on Bruno, Holland, Rashford, whatever you think are nacho.

Derek [00:58:02]:
He's not sure.

Luke [00:58:04]:
There are moments of magics and these guys feet. Let's just, like, let them do everything is about them. Fuck the game, you know?

Ryan [00:58:10]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:58:11]:
Sorry to interrupt you.

Ryan [00:58:14]:
I don't think I add much else to say. What I was going to say is that Chelsea are very, very fortunate with penalty. Like, they've been given more penalties than anyone, and Cole Palmer's made every single one of them. Yeah.

Luke [00:58:30]:
Which is crazy, to be honest with you.

Ryan [00:58:32]:
Yeah. All right, so before we just wrap up the PL, and we'll probably keep chiming in on this Arsenal villa game, or at least I will. Apparently we're not supposed to talk about soccer on this podcast, but my stream's dead. What's that?

Luke [00:58:48]:
What's the score?

Ryan [00:58:49]:
They're coming out for the half right now.

Luke [00:58:51]:
We gotta fucking hurry this shit up, guys.

Derek [00:58:53]:
I'll see them coming out.

Ryan [00:58:55]:
Hurry. What shit up do you need to go? Are you getting on the plane?

Luke [00:58:58]:
No, no, I'm actually good with time. I'm just. I just would rather watch the soccer game than talk to you folks.

Ryan [00:59:04]:
Gotcha. You can do. All right.

Derek [00:59:08]:
Ryan hasn't been paying attention to shit you've said for the last 45 minutes.

Ryan [00:59:12]:
All right, so last thing. Chelsea play Everton on Monday. Score. Predictions for that one? Let's start with Derek, the optimist.

Derek [00:59:20]:
I probably place a bet on it, though. Chelsea, two, Everton, zero.

Ryan [00:59:25]:
Whoa.

Luke [00:59:26]:
Okay, Luke, zero zero. Just a boring game.

Ryan [00:59:32]:
No shot.

Derek [00:59:33]:
You watch these two teams.

Ryan [00:59:35]:
What are you talking about, Sean?

Luke [00:59:38]:
Dice. Dice masterclass.

Ryan [00:59:41]:
Yeah.

Luke [00:59:43]:
If there's a team for a shondyce masterclass, it would be Chelsea.

Derek [00:59:48]:
True, true.

Ryan [00:59:50]:
I'm gonna.

Luke [00:59:51]:
Hold on.

Ryan [00:59:53]:
That would be a master class. If dice could ensure a. Like. Like, not only that Chelsea doesn't score, but that they also don't. Chelsea have been terrible. I'm trying to look at the last. The last time Chelsea.

Luke [01:00:10]:
Is that Goodison or Stanford Bridge?

Ryan [01:00:14]:
It is at Stanford Bridge.

Luke [01:00:16]:
All right. Zero zero.

Ryan [01:00:18]:
So when was the last time Chelsea kept a clean sheet? I literally. It would have been the. The nil nil. On January 26 against Aston Villa. That forced replay. Yeah, that was the last clean sheet. The last. Let's see.

Ryan [01:00:44]:
They gave us great. They've given up at least two goals in every match they've played since February 28. So I just can't imagine Everton not scoring against Chelsea. So to my mind, it's like, what does Chelsea do about it, right? Like, so I think Everton will score two goals against Chelsea. I think it'll end two two and it'll be another, like, squandered opportunity. They'll get another draw. To Chelsea's credit, they have not. We actually have not lost a game in months.

Ryan [01:01:23]:
It's like nine games or something.

Luke [01:01:25]:
Are they just all ties?

Ryan [01:01:27]:
Yeah, there's just tons of ties. Yeah.

Luke [01:01:29]:
That's kind of emblematic of a Tottenham, of a Pochettino team that's not working right. Like, he's a manager who gets a lot of ties.

Ryan [01:01:37]:
I. I can't wait until he's fired. It's gonna be.

Luke [01:01:41]:
Come on.

Ryan [01:01:41]:
I can't wait. Give him over.

Luke [01:01:43]:
I give.

Ryan [01:01:43]:
Give him.

Luke [01:01:44]:
You got. This. Hasn't worked any other. All right. You gotta give a manager an extra season.

Derek [01:01:51]:
One time I was at that point, Luke, and I think having seen the team defense the last couple weeks, I've just lost.

Ryan [01:02:00]:
You haven't been on this podcast. Let me drop this on you and get your reaction. We talked about this last for a while. So, Chelsea, in the first half of games, if you just look at that, they're in. They're like fifth in the league. I think for the first half. If you just look at the second half, they're 19th.

Derek [01:02:25]:
Yeah.

Ryan [01:02:26]:
So whatever Pach is tactically doing at.

Derek [01:02:32]:
Halftime, you can't give tactics if you're at the Cheeseburger stand.

Ryan [01:02:35]:
Ryan, like, I am done with him. I think he is a complete fraud. I think he's a fraud. I think, like I said, we've hired the spurs manager and we become the spurs. And I think he hates Chelsea. Like, I think he hates the team he's managing. I think it is a fucked up situation. I don't know who he'd hire.

Luke [01:03:03]:
I don't blame him. But he was like this team minus one russian fucking oligarch. It's all falling apart.

Ryan [01:03:10]:
What am I even doing here?

Luke [01:03:13]:
Well, I don't really feel bad for you, but, yeah, I think you should give him another season. I think that, like, that. I think the second half story has more to do with the maturity of the players in the squad than it does with the manager. It's much harder to chain maturity over a season. Like, you have to work with players over a long period of time. I think the tactics a lot of the time have been good from Chelsea, actually, especially against competitive teams. It's really the maturity of the team to me. And maybe you put that down in the manager.

Luke [01:03:46]:
Yeah, I think that's totally on his shoulders. But I would like to see him one year more just to see what he can do. Like, there's, I don't know, like, you just need to give a manager a little bit more time to see what happens. Because what manager is going to go to Chelsea right now? That's going to make a huge impact, right?

Ryan [01:04:03]:
No, that's what I think will save him is I, I don't know. Tuchel's not coming back. There's no shot.

Derek [01:04:09]:
Like, love to throw that one out there every time I get shooted down.

Ryan [01:04:12]:
Well, it's just not going to.

Derek [01:04:14]:
There's just. I know.

Ryan [01:04:16]:
It's like, deserve.

Luke [01:04:18]:
I don't know. Deserbi's not going to do well in that team or with that environment.

Ryan [01:04:22]:
I don't want deserving, but I do not want deserving.

Luke [01:04:24]:
Maybe you want Jesse Marsh to show up and fucking save the day.

Ryan [01:04:28]:
No, dude. So I'm agreeing with you. I want potch gone, but I know it's not realistic. Like, I think we're gonna make it to the summer and take a look around and we're just gonna have to roll with pots for another season.

Luke [01:04:41]:
And the payout that you would have to give to Pochettino, what is he on, a four or three?

Ryan [01:04:47]:
It was a two.

Luke [01:04:48]:
Oh, really? It's only a season longer. Okay.

Ryan [01:04:50]:
Yeah, it's only one more season. And apparently, if he doesn't qualify for any european competition, they can walk away for, like, with no payout. Like, they can just walk, like, dissolve the contract is what the rumors this is. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really important to him that he qualify for Europe. You wouldn't be important to Chelsea fans that he. Not so that we can get some.

Derek [01:05:15]:
I wouldn't think he's too invested when he's putting Sterling in there for place kicks, but what do I know?

Ryan [01:05:21]:
Yeah, it's a dysfunctional club. I don't know when it'll ever get better. I really don't. I think. I think this is just how we live now.

Derek [01:05:29]:
That bad, but. All right. It seems like a natural transition to another.

Ryan [01:05:35]:
Yeah. This is more of an emotional issue for you guys. Did we cover the champion? You guys talked about the Champions League while I was looking up some stats. We're good there.

Derek [01:05:46]:
Yeah, I think so. Ollie Watkins had a good game.

Ryan [01:05:49]:
Oh, we're over, Derek. You want to roll through the Yanks stuff? I think you carried this over from last episode. And then I want to talk about turkish football.

Luke [01:05:58]:
What the fuck?

Derek [01:05:58]:
Yeah, I don't know how that got out. Luke, did you catch any of the. The Corbin Albert situation and reaction from the players or media otherwise?

Luke [01:06:10]:
No.

Derek [01:06:11]:
And did you have a reaction to it? Okay, well, never mind. We can skip right past that. I thought. I will say this. I thought it was interesting. We covered it. I think Ryan. I didn't disagree with Ryan at the time.

Derek [01:06:20]:
He thought was going to kind of blow over. I think it would have had the team not called attention to it and use their platform to speak out against, you know, the things that Corbin said and did.

Luke [01:06:33]:
Exactly. The Corbin say.

Derek [01:06:35]:
I don't know if she said a whole lot, though. She liked a lot of Instagram posts that were, you know, anti trans, anti LGBTQ because that she is very pro Christian and supports those instagrams and all that, you know, bullshit. And rapinoe specifically liked a post where, like, some presumably, you know, religious organization was making, you know, making light of repino. Season ending or career ending injury, really, in her last game. And Corbin liked that, which you know, isn't a good look in general. And then, you know, obviously the implications of, beyond that, of everything she was doing in social media. And so at first, you know, she was quick to issue an apology, which is good. They let her into the camp, but then, you know, I think the players had conversations and Alex Morgan and Lindsey Horan came out and issued kind of their own video statement which, you know, I think was.

Derek [01:07:35]:
Which was good. I think that for them to use their platform to speak out against it, it's just a weird situation that she was brought into camp. She played minutes in. Like I had also mentioned the week before that I thought she was probably one of the, you know, had become one of the most integral pieces of that team in particular, kind of. Of keeps that midfield going. They were able to get through the, she believes, cup with. Without her, largely in, particularly Mallory Swanson's back and Kat's back healthy. She didn't play cat Macario.

Derek [01:08:11]:
She didn't play a ton of minutes. Jaden Shaw had a really good tournament playing in more of an attacking ten position in the midfield, which, which could work well for this team. So that, yeah, I think they found ways around it with the other pieces, but we'll see. I think she's probably a player for me, that's pretty important against a team like the Netherlands where you can't. You've got to find a way to keep them from just playing through the middle and controlling possession the whole game.

Luke [01:08:40]:
But, yeah, I feel like the political questions have been around the US women's national team for sure a while. You know, like, their activism has been fantastic, really, you know, outspoken. Yeah. So it's. It is interesting seeing that kind of conflict come into a team like that that has seemingly been pretty connected to each other for a good long time now. Yeah, yeah.

Derek [01:09:04]:
And I mean, I think, you know, the ones, based on what I see on social media, of the ones I follow. Right. Like, there are a lot of really good relationships between this new wave of players. And so if you become an outcast, like, how does that play into you being selected, dynamic like, yeah.

Luke [01:09:19]:
Do you go full Gara Southgate and just like, don't take anybody you don't like? Or do you let in like, you know, players who deserve to be there on form and talent ability with some, you know, questionable social kind of implications within the squad without making any judgement? Like, because I don't know about anything about it. Like, I probably disagree. You said pro Christian. I was like, oh man, cool, great grad. Someone is pro Christian, you know, finally.

Derek [01:09:49]:
Finally we did.

Luke [01:09:50]:
Yeah.

Derek [01:09:52]:
It's a slightly different reaction to you had, but. Yeah, but yeah. I mean, I guess that from a, from a play standpoint, you know, depending on what the listeners saw.

Ryan [01:10:03]:
Yes. Christian is such an interesting way to describe it.

Luke [01:10:08]:
So nobody has ever done that before.

Ryan [01:10:11]:
What he means is right wing views. Yeah, yeah.

Derek [01:10:16]:
Sorry, was I. Yeah.

Luke [01:10:18]:
Listen, remember I am like the pc lawyer on this podcast. Despite being the most, I don't know, unhinged at times.

Ryan [01:10:28]:
I think I'm the most. I did a 15 minutes rant against the Mormon church on this podcast.

Luke [01:10:34]:
I would say I'm a little more unhinged off the podcast.

Derek [01:10:38]:
Yeah, we'll get you there. Maybe we need to start letting him drink before.

Ryan [01:10:42]:
We probably should have allowed that liquor store run.

Luke [01:10:45]:
Yeah, let me get the beer. You should have encouraged it.

Derek [01:10:51]:
But in the. In the end, the US wins the she believes cup, defeating Japan two one, and then in the final beating Canada and pks. Interestingly enough, there was no overtime, so Canada tied it again late, similar to the last time these teams met, which I think was in the Gold cup, if I'm remembering correctly. Interestingly enough, two players are Chelsea for Canada on this one and what it's become a really good matchup between the US and Canada. I think Canada is probably the team that internationally matches up the most athletically and from a pace perspective with the US team. Ashley Lawrence forced kind of a misplay by Nayer that led to the Canada's goal in regular time. Buchanan also plays for Chelsea women's team, put one off the crossbow bar that probably deserved to be a winner in this one. So a very close game.

Derek [01:11:50]:
They've kind of become our concacaf rival in a lot of ways in the women's side, I think, but pulled out the win here. Another dominant as a result really, of Nayer again. So she had that huge performance in the Gold cup again right in pks. This one, you know, scored one. I think she saved three. So it's everybody, it's Nayer's world and we're just living in it. But without overtime, interestingly enough, it goes straight to pks, but good to see the US win this one nonetheless. And as Ryan mentioned, Emma Hayes is coming over from Chelsea.

Derek [01:12:32]:
So this was the last game for Kilgore in charge. I thought she did a really good job as an interim coach. Sometimes you don't see a lot of like tactics in a good in chemistry building out of an interim. The men's team kind of went through a similar period right where I think they're, you know, they benefited from having a really good interim coach as well. But coming out of this team with kind of a more cemented this tournament with a more cemented player pool I think bodes well for them going into the Olympics. So we'll see how things go and then players getting healthy too. Like Capario getting healthy, Mallory getting healthy. So it was pretty positive considering how down I was on this team coming out of the World cup.

Luke [01:13:16]:
Maybe you should have some more faith.

Ryan [01:13:20]:
Come on.

Derek [01:13:22]:
I see what Luke did there. Corbin Albert would agree.

Ryan [01:13:29]:
Yeah.

Luke [01:13:34]:
A total of zero minutes of the she believes cup. I actually 5 seconds looking at it on my HBO Max subscription right before I watch something else.

Ryan [01:13:48]:
I haven't watched any of it either so.

Derek [01:13:50]:
So anyways, that was most of my Yanks news. I didn't see what Geo got in.

Luke [01:13:57]:
What'S got his first start.

Derek [01:13:58]:
Oh yeah, I should. I forgot to put that in the notes. That's a good point. So Forest pulled out, what was that? Two two tie.

Ryan [01:14:04]:
Yes. Wolves.

Derek [01:14:04]:
Right. Which I was pissed off at at first because I continue to hope Luton's gonna get out of relegation somehow. But you know, lo and behold Forest finally decide to start Geo and he rewards of them an assist and you know, looked good, you know from what I saw of the game. So maybe they've kind of figured out that that might actually help them since you know, this team's not very good and he is.

Luke [01:14:29]:
But Morgan Gibbs White is a player though.

Derek [01:14:33]:
True Morgan?

Luke [01:14:33]:
Yeah. Spurs bought Morgan Gibbs White like dudes baller.

Ryan [01:14:39]:
Yeah. He's, he's class gonna need the money maybe. So there are new FFP rules I guess they don't go into effect until next season. But I think it's interesting what they've time done and I have no idea how it will impact it but it's a percent of turnover and it's like if you are in a Europe competition you can spend 70% of your receipt turnover and if you're not in Europe you can spend 85%. So I think it's interesting they just passed this, this week. So I thought what was interesting about that is they are sort of handicapping the teams that are in Europe a little bit. They can't spend as much like. So it takes the edge off a little bit of that additional revenue that they'll have from Europe.

Ryan [01:15:33]:
So. Yeah, yeah. So that was interesting. We'll have to see how that plays out. Yeah. So what are we at? All right, real quick, turkish football. Yeah.

Derek [01:15:45]:
You've got my. You've got my attention. Let's. Let's. Let's get delve into this one.

Ryan [01:15:49]:
So, a couple weeks ago, we talked about Mitchy Bash, who I roundhouse kicking a fan in the face who had taken the field.

Luke [01:15:57]:
Oh, yeah. I didn't see that.

Ryan [01:15:59]:
Oh, yeah.

Derek [01:16:00]:
Yeah. He roundhouse kicked somebody during a knife fight on a soccer pitch.

Ryan [01:16:05]:
Yeah. So this will be. This will be really quick. But basically, Ferna Bache, I think, is, how you say, the team's name. I don't know who they were playing, but they were playing a rival game, and they won. And the players, like, progressively throughout this match, the fans were becoming more and more unhinged and are, like, throwing shit at the players. At one point, a player got hit in the head and was bleeding on the field. At one point, the fans threw a lit flare onto the field, and the referee didn't blow the play dead.

Ryan [01:16:42]:
And you can see the ref look over at this fire on the field and then let it play on. And then eventually, I think, the ball goes out and the ref goes over and deals with the fire. So this game is, like, boiling over, this rivalry match, and nothing's being done about it. And then the match ends, and Fernabace are celebrating in the middle of the pitch that they've beaten their. Their rivals. And as they're celebrating, this fan breaks through the security around the field and makes their way over to the team that's celebrating Fernabace. Fernabace is the away team. And this situation, the players who have been getting pelted for an entire match by cans, like, one of them, like I said, was bleeding from being hit in the head.

Ryan [01:17:35]:
The field was set on fire by a flare briefly.

Luke [01:17:39]:
Can we make that a sound bite?

Ryan [01:17:42]:
I don't know who that was, but I'm behind. But Villa nearly, like, they banked a shot off the top post, and it almost went. Went down and into the net. I don't know who it was. But anyway, so this dude breaks through security and comes, like, approaches the Farnabache team and squares up with the players like he wants to throw hands. And the players at this point are, like, happy to oblige this guy.

Derek [01:18:12]:
Good. I've been waiting for this match, all this matchup, all day.

Ryan [01:18:15]:
So they, like, start to fuck him up, the fan, and that causes the crowd to just completely boil over. And now all of them are pouring onto the field, and that's what you see with knives. One of them picks up the. The corner flag and uses that as a spear. Like to try to like stab one of the fair nibbache players with, with the spike. And so the players start clearing the field and in the process a fan beelines to Mitchy Bashawi and he literally roundhouse kicks the dude in the face. So that's what we cut. We covered a few weeks ago.

Ryan [01:18:56]:
Like, I just had that clip and I think I was like, what the fuck's going on here? Cuz Mitchie just kicked a fan in the face who ran on the field. But yeah, so the, the turkish league, I guess, has like some sort of like somewhat combative relationship with Fernabache. There's like bad blood between the Turkish FA and this club who is also their most successful club right now. Right. And so they rule in on this or they weigh in on this and they find the club who they were visiting. Like, at first it was like a hundred thousand dollars and then it got bumped down to like 30k or something. So basically nothing. And they suspended like four Farina botch a players or fined them or they punished the players for defending the retaliation, for retaliating.

Ryan [01:19:52]:
That's why these fans were attacking them with. Right. So then they have this. So what happened? I think it was last week and. And why? Oh, I think Odegaard just got bicycle kicked in the head. Good or no, that's not Odegaard. Who is that? Oh, it is Odegaard. Yeah.

Derek [01:20:14]:
Can I respond to this story indirectly?

Ryan [01:20:17]:
Sure.

Derek [01:20:17]:
With an anecdote, you know, in two that I think I gotta go back and look. I think it was like 2010 or 2000, maybe 2010. I. I was on a flight from London to Dubai on British Airways, presumably on a Boeing, and we had a oil system engine issue that required us to make an emergency landing while we were over Iraq. So the choices back then were Iraq, Iran and Turkey. We landed in Turkey, given those choices.

Ryan [01:20:51]:
Uh huh.

Derek [01:20:52]:
That's all I've got. So, I mean, preferable to Iraq and Iraq.

Ryan [01:20:57]:
Yeah. In terms of the level of control.

Luke [01:21:00]:
That's why. A bonus for kicking that dude.

Ryan [01:21:03]:
Yeah.

Derek [01:21:05]:
I'm sure this the home. I'm sure the Fennabachi supporters did. Right.

Ryan [01:21:09]:
The odegaard got kicked in the chest, not the.

Derek [01:21:11]:
Oh, yeah, that's making a meal of it. Come on.

Ryan [01:21:14]:
Yeah. Anyway, so, so to wrap this up and we got to call it, we're at an hour and 20 minutes, guys. So far, Nabache had a super cup against Galatasaret Rye. I think they're, they're like big rivals. I think. I think that's who they were playing. But yeah, it was like a super cup and they are progressing in Europe and they. Was it galatas or I.

Ryan [01:21:44]:
It does, yeah, it was, it was a Super cup against Galatasarai. So they requested, because they're, they've progressed in the, in the Europa cup, they requested that this game be moved as like most other leagues would so that their, their league can look better in the big Europe competitions. And they were denied by the turkish federation and so they, at that plus like how the federation handled them being attacked. They fielded their U 19 team, a goal was scored in like less than a minute because they're playing against children, right. Galatasarai, the second biggest club in Turkey and then they yanked their entire team from the field and just walked off.

Luke [01:22:30]:
Good shit.

Ryan [01:22:30]:
So effectively the Super cup didn't happen. And then they called, called for a complete, that the, the club president of Ferna Vache called for a complete reset of turkish football. And it kind of remains to be seen if they're gonna keep fielding a team like what they're gonna do here. But yeah, it's, I mean it's a disaster. It's a, it's like an absolute fiasco in Turkey.

Luke [01:22:55]:
Love it.

Ryan [01:22:56]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Luke [01:22:57]:
Except the fans coming on the field. That's terrifying. Yeah, that was, that was like, kind of like what happened with Jack Grealish when they were in the championship. Someone punched him in the face. Like, this is all like, this is too much Ron art. There's a little more runner test than that, the flying kick, but it's, it's a huge problem. That's like a huge safety issue. So hopefully at least figure that out.

Derek [01:23:18]:
But you know, in fairness, like, tuchel and ten hag are going to need somewhere to coach next season, so.

Ryan [01:23:24]:
And Pach botch Pachatino can go out there, teach them how to not bleed.

Derek [01:23:30]:
He probably eats some.

Luke [01:23:31]:
Pachdine will be a Chelsea shawarma.

Derek [01:23:33]:
Yeah, get down with that.

Ryan [01:23:36]:
All right, well that's, we're at the 70th ish, 69th minute of the Arsenal villa game. Thanks for tuning in this week. Good to have Luke back. And yeah, check us out on social media, on Discord and please, sorry I'm. Arsenal are away here. Please like rate, whatever. Subscribe to us, it's super helpful. Thanks.

Ryan [01:24:06]:
Thanks for listening us bullshit here every week.

Derek [01:24:10]:
Bye everyone.

Luke [01:24:11]:
Leave some comments. Tell them you like me more.

Ryan [01:24:13]:
They do. Nobody ever cares about me. It's always Derek and Luke.

Luke [01:24:20]:
Poor guys.

Derek [01:24:22]:
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