Pat's Peeps Podcast
Ep. 96 Today's Peep Returns from the Injured List, A Candid Conversation with Comedian Jason Allen (Whom I Raised as a Child), Quick Thoughts on Trump's Verdict, and Love Finds A Way into Today's Record Spin
Following an unexpected brief hiatus, we're back with record-breaking temperatures in Northern California and a missed chance to chat about Bobby Gentry’s “Ode to Billy Joe" and on the Trump verdicts. Tune in to catch up on all my misadventures and get a sneak peek at what's coming up next!
From an 18-year-old navigating the stormy seas of guardianship to a proud mentor reflecting on the love and loss within a tight-knit family, this episode is a heartfelt journey. I open up about the joys and challenges of raising Mikey and Jason, sharing passions like music and baseball, and the irreplaceable bond we forged. While we honor Mikey's memory, we also celebrate Jason's evolution into a baseball aficionado and valued friend, highlighting the resilience that defines our family.
Celebrity encounters and concert tales steal the spotlight as we reminisce about meeting icons like Steve Garvey, Oral Hershiser, Henry Winkler, and Dick Van Dyke. From unforgettable Paul's McCartney's set at Oracle Arena to the incredible longevity of Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones, there's no shortage of star-studded stories. We also explore Jason's venture into stand-up comedy and his transformation into a dynamic performer, all while reflecting on my own journey from a small-town olive plant worker to a talk radio host. This episode is a testament to dreams pursued and the extraordinary people met along the way.
Following an unexpected brief hiatus, we're back with record-breaking temperatures in Northern California and a missed chance to chat about Bobby Gentry’s “Ode to Billy Joe" and on the Trump verdicts. Tune in to catch up on all my misadventures and get a sneak peek at what's coming up next!
From an 18-year-old navigating the stormy seas of guardianship to a proud mentor reflecting on the love and loss within a tight-knit family, this episode is a heartfelt journey. I open up about the joys and challenges of raising Mikey and Jason, sharing passions like music and baseball, and the irreplaceable bond we forged. While we honor Mikey's memory, we also celebrate Jason's evolution into a baseball aficionado and valued friend, highlighting the resilience that defines our family.
Celebrity encounters and concert tales steal the spotlight as we reminisce about meeting icons like Steve Garvey, Oral Hershiser, Henry Winkler, and Dick Van Dyke. From unforgettable Paul's McCartney's set at Oracle Arena to the incredible longevity of Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones, there's no shortage of star-studded stories. We also explore Jason's venture into stand-up comedy and his transformation into a dynamic performer, all while reflecting on my own journey from a small-town olive plant worker to a talk radio host. This episode is a testament to dreams pursued and the extraordinary people met along the way.
After an absence. We are back in business. Hello, hi, it's Patrick. It's the Pat's Peeps podcast resuming After a brief respite. You might say I hate doing that. I don't like any respites. I like being there as often as possible. Well, I am here as often as possible. It's a long story, how are you? Thank you for tuning in, and if you missed the podcast at all, then thank you so much. Thank you for missing it. Uh, and for those of you don't care, then thank you very much for that too. I appreciate that as well. Uh, so let me just set it up for you what day it is, like I always do here in the pats peeps podcast, and today this is a. What day is it? Oh, it's a Tuesday. Tuesday, that's right. It's going to be a lot of noise here. Hold on a second.
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 1:Hold on Maintenance. We're doing maintenance here, hold on. So it's a. I sounded like Trump for a second there. When I want to do Trump, I can't impersonate him. When I'm not trying to impersonate him, somehow it comes out of me anyhow there. Hopefully you can get past that noise and forgive me for that, but today is a Tuesday. It is the fourth day of June. I missed my mark yesterday on a Bobby Gentry. You know the uh ode to. You know, uh, the uh ode to Billy Joe. I jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge. Don't they mention June 3rd? I'm going to do that on my show tonight.
Speaker 1:I don't even care if it's June 4th, but it's June 4th 2024. And as I look out my studio window into the beautiful foothills of Northern California, we've got some wind out there, fortunately. Things are somewhat still green from spring and all the rain, but it is going to be warm today. I understand it might be record-breaking for this day of the year, 103. Maybe, depending, it could even get hotter in some places. So a little bit of heat today. This will be the hottest day of 2024, at least in our area, wherever you are listening. I do greatly appreciate that. So now here's the deal. See channeling Ross Perot now. Now look under the hood, now see. Well, here's what's been going on since last we spoke here on Pat's Peeps. Now I'm also the host, by the way, of the Pat Walsh Show, as heard live everywhere on your free iHeart app, and then podcasts of that as well, and heard locally in Sacramento, california, on KFPK Radio.
Speaker 1:I mentioned probably I gave you the nightmarish situation on my last podcast, or one of the previous ones, where I tried to push the flatbed. That didn't go well. I injured myself. I actually injured a hip. Now I that didn't go well. I injured myself. I actually injured a hip. Now I sound like a 90-year-old guy. But I'll tell you, I've already been through all that. I tried to help. You know the story. I tried to help push a guy. It was never going to work in the first place. We're not going to push the darn thing. You pop the clutch, I pop my leg and here we are.
Speaker 1:So I've been able to do this for a few days because, quite frankly, I can barely walk and I can barely sit. So I don't like so. Anyhow, I don't want to get into all the minutiae of this, but what I do, this is what I wanted to avoid. It's only like today, being perfectly honest with you, putting my man card at risk here. Only today do I have the ability to really kind of maneuver at all and sit down and do this.
Speaker 1:Prior to this, or maybe yesterday, I kind of got away with it, my conversation with Jason Allen yesterday, the comedian on my back patio. But the fact is, had I done this the last few days, let's say in the last, I don't know last week, I would be in the middle of conversation and then you might hear something like similar to this but I can't even replicate it because it's not genuine, but something like this, and it could be in the middle of anything. Hey, today we're going to talk about you know, it'd be this, this agonizing screech to which then everyone would go oh my God, what's going on there? Patrick and I've got the injury and I'm not going to belabor the point Is it getting better? I have good days, I'm having bad days. Hopefully it's going the direction I want. It's getting better, but really has shut me down in terms of doing any kind of physical labor and I never have aches and pains. So I'm not here to dwell on that. Like I said, I'm just letting you know why. Not only that, but if I also told you you wouldn't even believe it the amount of times I've had to go to the dentist office in the last two weeks, you wouldn't even believe it. I'm not going to bore you with it, but believe me when I tell you it's been like five times, it has nothing to do with my wonderful dentist, brian Judd. He's trying, it's me. I don't know what's going on with me, but that's just me. I think my warranty is given in. You know I have a birthday and bam, that's it. The warranty is up. But here's I guess here's, the bright side.
Speaker 1:On Podcast 96. Imagine this. Imagine if I would have done these podcasts for the last several days Okay, so I missed like probably five or something like that. I've been up to a hundred and some by now. But had I have been doing these podcasts over that period of time, this is what you would. This is might be kind of what you would have heard about.
Speaker 1:Well, the Trump verdict is expected. Oh, the Trump, okay, the verdict. Oh God, what's wrong? Wrong, oh, my leg. Uh, oh god. Guilty on all, on all, 34 charges. However, I think there's probably, in fact there will be an appeals process, so okay.
Speaker 1:So I'd screamed and had a bunch of crap about politics, about the appeals and the blah blah. It would take months. How in the hell could he get a fair jury in a situation like that? Or last ditch efforts to stop his presidency? Whatever they could do, I'll be shocked if they don't really do something to put him in jail, because they need to do, because they know they're going to lose to this guy that they're going to claim has 34 counts against him and then, if you happen to vote for him, you know what that makes you. That makes you the kind of person that would vote for someone who has 34 felony counts. That's the kind of human being you are. That's what they're going to use against you, you.
Speaker 1:So I could have talked about all this and then screamed in the middle of it. You know that they wanted to call him a convicted felon. I'm him, donald trump, uh, and then you for supporting him. Those of you do. Many of you probably don't. Anyhow, I could have mentioned that. I could have talked about how yeah, of course this is a political agenda. Of course it's. It's using the judiciary system to benefit a political party.
Speaker 1:I could have talked about all this or how the verdict could actually and probably will work in Donald Trump's favor and help his poll numbers. But you know what Didn't have to do that. Don't have to do it here on 96. You know what I did talk about last night. So this is interesting to me. Here I want to talk about I hope it's interesting to you. It's interesting to me because it's my life and I want to share a little bit of that with you Very personal things. I don want to share a little bit of that with you Very personal things. I don't share this a lot.
Speaker 1:So Jason Allen the comedian comes up to my house yesterday Jason Nelson Allen, as I like to call him, and you'll hear that here I am walking like Festus from Gunsmoke and Jason comes up and we go to the back patio and where he's commiserating because he's had an injury as well with his foot, but anyhow. So we're going to have a conversation. Well, here's the story and you're going to hear about it. Jason was a young boy that I ended up raising because of a situation that I ended up being in inadvertently making a really oh my gosh a really bad move in my past. I mean it was just a bad move. We all do stuff like that. I'm going to put my system on. Do not disturb. I forgot now people trying to call me. That's how my days go, anyhow.
Speaker 1:So I raised this young man for almost six years and he's become a very good young man, very good. Now he's no longer a young man, he's a man, full-blown man, middle-aged man, and I realize now that, and so I'm not going to give away the entire conversation. So Jason and I sat down on my back patio yesterday First time he'd ever seen my back patio after all the work I've done with Southgate Glass, with American River Flooring and all these businesses that have really done a remarkable job on my home that you've had to listen to in the background on numerous occasions. With that in mind, I thought I would share this interview with you that I did with Jason yesterday and just kind of give you a little background on myself and things that a lot of people don't know about me. So, if you don't mind, with that in mind, all right. So now I'm on my back deck my new back deck Sitting with Jason Allen, or as I like to call him, jason Nelson Allen.
Speaker 2:As everybody does. Everyone calls you that, no, just you.
Speaker 1:Just me. I just like to call him Jason Nelson Allen because I know him as Jason Nelson Allen. But we just came through my new French doors, as provided by Southgate Glass Milgard Windows, and you're one of the first people to be out here through my new windows and doors, my new French doors.
Speaker 2:They're gorgeous. They did really well.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you Absolutely.
Speaker 1:It's a nice cool morning out here. As I said, it's a Monday morning. As I already said, it's a nice cool day. So, yeah, jason is. I just thought it'd be kind of fun to have Jason on my podcast, for many reasons, number one. So, jason is you know, I was just talking about you over the weekend to a couple of people, people who went on my trip with me to Italy and they were asking me about. They knew I was into baseball, know that I'm still into baseball and I had mentioned on one of my podcasts that one of my earlier podcasts that my goal was to be a major league baseball player and I did everything I could to be a major league baseball player.
Speaker 1:Sometimes in life things get derailed. You didn't mean to, it just happens that way. So the honest truth about this is that Jason is a 53-year-old man who in my life as a 17, just turning 18-year-old man, boy turning into a man still not even a man. Yet I happened to meet Jason's mother. That's a long story that I will save for another podcast. That is basically a story that should not even be shared. It's personal. But suffice it to say and this is no offense to you, Jason, to your mother, to your brothers. It was not meant to be. It just wasn't meant to be. I was too young, I was just a boy, I was just trying to play baseball. Anyhow, long story very short. I got sidetracked. Next thing, you know, I was an 18-year-old, still a boy. Suddenly, I was in a situation where I was kind of responsible for raising a baby and two young boys who were brothers, mikey and Jason. And even though I was too young to do this and you would acknowledge that, wouldn't you? Jason, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I mean 18 years old. You're still finding yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know and you, you know, to go from trying to find yourself at that age to all of a sudden having to be the man of the house practically overnight, that's, that's a lot for three kids with three children, you know that's that's a lot for anybody kids, with three children, you know that's that's a lot for anybody.
Speaker 1:And so, you know, I made the best of it that I could. I tried to be an upstanding person. I tried to, with my limited wisdom at 18 years old, tried to impart the wisdom that I did feel that I had into jason and mikey, and I can honestly say that I couldn't have had two better kids and being again a kid myself to be able to impart that wisdom upon, because they would sit there, like literally like sponges, they wouldn't even be distracted, like they wanted to go do something else, like they sat there and listened. And two of my biggest area of knowledge at 18 years old was music and sports. And so I would talk about sports and I would try to encourage them to love sports and to play sports. And then, of course, I was biased and I imparted my call it wisdom, call it being dumb, whatever Whoever's listening to this, call it whatever you want to root for the Rams and root for the Dodgers, or just root for whoever, just enjoy the game. But of course I was biased towards those teams, so anyhow, they'd sit there.
Speaker 1:Now we lost Mikey at the age of 29 years old, right? 29?, 30, yeah, 30? Sit there. And now we lost Mikey at the age of 29 years old. Right, 29, 30, yeah, 30. Got. Rest in peace, mikey. He was just a wonderful man, a real bright spot and a really intelligent man who could fix anything in this world. He could build anything, he could fix anything, and we'll always remember Michael. But anyhow. So Jason is here, and Jason and I so, and Jason and I so I would tell these kids about the Beatles and I remember sitting there going, okay, now let's listen to this song, for instance A Day in the Life.
Speaker 2:Remember this, jason, I absolutely do. I think about this quite often, and what's crazy was I knew of Paul McCartney through wings before I knew of him as a Beatle. I knew of the Beatles, but I didn't before I knew of him as a Beatle. I knew of the Beatles but I didn't know them as individual musicians John, paul, george and Ringo. They were just the Beatles, they were just a band, and so Paul McCartney stood out because of Paul McCartney and Wings. My mother in particular, really loved the band on the Rubbin' album, so that was ingrained. And so next thing I I know, I find out through you, I believe that paul mccartney was indeed a beetle, and so that that was one thing we would do. Um, what you were talking about, which is you would put on a song and say who's singing? Yeah, who's?
Speaker 2:singing this and paul I would ace paul's songs because he sounded like the guy on wings. Yeah, you know and uh. But but like john and George, I would kind of get those two mixed up and I got it after a while, but they were kind of hard to tell apart sometimes. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, as everyone knows, like a day in the life would be a great example. And I would tell Jason and Mikey I'd say, okay, I read the news today. Oh boy About you, oh boy about it. Yeah, and I'd say, listen to, this is John. John is very introspective and you know he's, he's thinking about the problems of the world and trying to. You know he's the. You know let's have love and peace.
Speaker 1:And and then, in the middle of the song, all of a sudden you're think, think, think, god woke up, got out of bed. Look at Carl's across my head, paul's like, yeah, whatever, get up, the sun's shining. Can we just go? Can we have some orange juice and go have some fun? Today? There's a big difference in their styles. And then you have George who is more mystical and I don't know more, bringing in the indie kind of this influence and this guitar sound and just a very different. He at first wouldn't get a lot of credit and didn't get a lot of chances and he'd get a cut or two of his songs into the record Anyhow.
Speaker 1:So I tell Jason all this and Mikey well, and then I talk, like I said, talk about baseball. Well, now, honestly, I am so proud to say that Jason has grown up number one, that we have become great friends Absolutely as adults, and that Jason, literally I mean I thought I liked baseball this man's in every game. He's behind on plate. You watch the Dodgers. You watch whatever. Watch the Giants Play the Dodgers there's Jason behind on plate. You watch the Reno Aces there's Jason behind on plate, behind the dugout. We go to the All-Star game together at Dodger Stadium a couple years ago, and a music fanatic just like I am, so I guess this is the long way of saying it. Jason, I'm very proud of you, and now here you are doing all this, but let's just stick with that for now. Again.
Speaker 2:I'm proud of you, thank you. It means a lot to me, man, I can honestly say a lot of my identity comes from growing up with with you, literally. I mean we, we, we can, I can almost say we grew up together, even though you were the, the, the so-called father guy. You were a kid, like you say, and I I was what? 13 years younger than you. I think, yeah, yeah, not much. You know just well, well, like, well, like know, just like my youngest brother, eric.
Speaker 2:We're 12 years apart, not quite 13, but, yeah, kind of the same difference, you know, and you know, like I said, I get my love of the Dodgers from you. I get my love of 11 years difference. Yeah, I mean that's a lot. That's less than me and Eric, yeah Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's less than me. And Eric, yeah, right. Yeah, there's less time, yes, there's less years between you and me than there is my second son, eric. Yeah, your brother, yeah, unbelievable, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2:But you know, I mean like it can almost be said truthfully that like you were the younger, you were the older brother that I didn't really have but I did. If that makes, any sense? Yeah, it does you know so, like you know, I've always, you know I always I always remember, like tim and eric, uh, would always like look up to me like if I was going through my baseball cards or something, they'd always have questions about you know what I was doing and stuff like that. So imagine that diamond dynamic.
Speaker 1:Like tim and and Eric are my sons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they were 10 and 12 years younger than I was. So same idea, just looking up to the oldest, to the elder. And that's exactly what I was doing with you, I mean. The only difference is you weren't my brother.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if that makes any sense, no it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:I never even looked at it like that, but because of the position I was in, it didn't I never thought about it like that. But now, as you're saying it, it's absolutely true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know, like when you're in that, when we were in that moment, like of course we weren't going to think about it like that in those terms, because we're just too busy being in the present.
Speaker 1:I mean, how many 18-year-old brothers have an 11-year-old, 12-year-old brother? There's a lot of people that have that situation.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and I'm honestly surprised. I didn't really think of that before now myself, like huh, yeah, the age differences are very similar. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm curious what it was like. I mean, I guess maybe you just said it like I guess you just said it growing up.
Speaker 2:So five years of your life, I, I raised you yeah, and then you know, between nine and nine and thirteen or whatever it was, I mean, those are very formative years, yeah, and so, like any, any child that age, they're looking for anything to influence them, like whether it be good or bad, and they're just looking for somewhere to belong. And so, with you, um, what helped me belong was to, you know, learn about baseball, learn about music and have that bond with you. So, you know, we can create these good memories, you know, and and and just enjoy that time, you know. And now, now, now that we have, like the, the, you know, all this time that has passed, and and we think about it, and through adult eyes or older, yeah, it's kind of crazy to think about that.
Speaker 1:How did you go from so? How? So? You know, there was a period of time where we were separated and hadn't spoken. I never forgot about you. We stayed in touch, but over the last few years we've become much closer and friends again, which I'm very like, I say I'm very grateful and thankful for, and that's the way it will always be, I'm sure. But how did you so? Once I was out of the picture and everything kind of moved along, what was it inside of you that sparked and kept that interest, both in baseball and in music? Do you have a certain thing where you just kind of like? For me? I can remember and I've said this a million times I was sitting there with my grandfather in Huntington Park and he'd listen to Vince Scully, dodger Union 76, chavez Ravine, farmer Johns, all that stuff. I was influenced by that great 70s Dodger team and that's for me. When he was gone, it just it still resonated with me. It's still sitting there. I just still loved it. What was it for you that kept you interested?
Speaker 2:I had a lot of friends growing up who were also into baseball and we were all fans of different teams, and so there was that element of trash talk that would happen among among teenage boys, like yeah, yeah, the angels, why are you rooting for them, right? Reggie jackson, okay, whatever you know. Or kansas city you think you ever, you've never even been to kansas city. Why do you like them? You know, and in my case, you know, you know, I did most of my growing up in northern california. So, identifying as a dodger fan in northern california, you kind of you kind of took a, you kind of took some lumps because that's giants country up there. You know that's right.
Speaker 2:So uh, you know, I've dealt with that my entire life and and happy about it absolutely, and and it felt like it felt like a badge of honor to be a dodger fan in Northern California, because everybody else was a Giants fan. So they were like you're just kind of following the sheep, yeah, you know. So it's like I'm going to stick with these guys because this is where I launched in with baseball. I'm not going to just become a Giants fan just because everybody else around me is.
Speaker 1:Right, ew, ew. I don't do that.
Speaker 2:No, but yeah, no, but uh, uh, yeah. So, like, you know a lot of the guys that you grew up watching and, as far as baseball, I followed their careers, as, too, you know the infield, garvey lobes russell say, um, I became a garvey guy because you were a garvey guy and, um, I was very fortunate during all-star weekend, uh, to actually meet Steve Garvey, and I had this jersey on, and he's like what's up Six? And I'm like what's up yourself, we're both Six. Hey, ain't that neat. So we took the photo op and he wasn't supposed to be signing autographs Because he was only making an appearance for like half an hour and they were trying to get as many people through the thing as they could, and so, finally, he's the one that did this.
Speaker 2:He's like hey, does anybody have a pen? And I'm like Mr Garvey, sir, I have a pen. And he signs the back of this jersey and I get off the stage and somebody taps me on the shoulder. He's like hey, does anybody here with you? Did they take a picture of that? I'm like no, I'm here by myself. He's like I got that picture. Do you want it? I'm like absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I have that. It's on my wall in my office. It's a very prized, and it all wouldn't have happened without me and you, sir.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I love that. Then he just met Oral Hershiser wearing his jersey.
Speaker 2:Wearing his jersey. Very accidental. I was doing a field tour in San Francisco and just hanging out watching batting practice and I look over to my left and standing about maybe 15 yards away from me was Oral Hershiser himself, and I'm wearing this hoodie over this jersey and I'm like I need to make sure he sees this thing so I can maybe get it signed or something. So I pull this hoodie over my head and I end up spilling all the contents in my pockets all over the field, making a little scene. But long story short, I got the jersey signed and I got to speak with Oral for about 10 minutes and he's a very great guy.
Speaker 1:And took a great selfie with you too, like he really actually cared about the selfie, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like you know, like 9 out of 10 celebrity selfies people take with you, they're like I got somewhere else, I have to be. Can we go? Can we do this?
Speaker 1:Right, right, right, or it's a real phony smiley crack for one second yeah, yeah whereas I can honestly say that one looks like he really cared about it.
Speaker 1:henry winkler was the same way in my experience, and dick van dyke was also the same way in terms of actually cared about the actual picture. Didn't even know you, but cared about that and I like that a lot. Uh, then I think it was, and I could have the date wrong, but in my mind it was may 12, 2022. Maybe I'm wrong on that, I don't know, but I think it was May 12, 2022. Maybe I'm wrong on that, I don't know, but I think it was May 12, 2022. Jason and I decided yep, yeah, because, especially particularly with our history, we're going to go down to Oracle. I guess it's Oracle Arena, I don't know what the hell they're calling it now.
Speaker 1:And we're going to go see Paul McCartney up close in Section A-12. Yes, and we went. Going to go see Paul McCartney up close in Section A-12. Yes, and we went to Section A-12, which was right in front of the stage, and we watched about a two-and-a-half-hour, three-hour Paul McCartney show, which was awesome.
Speaker 2:We watched an 80-year-old man rock our faces off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 80.
Speaker 2:That's what we saw. 80 years old he turned 80 years old that year and I hope I have even a quarter of that type of energy at 80 that he did on stage that night. And you know, I mean just a mind-blowing moment and just being there with you to see that after all we've been through that was just a very full circle thing. Yeah it meant a lot. It did.
Speaker 1:At one point in that concert, like Jason says the guy's 80. It did At one point in that concert, like Jason says the guy's 80. And at one point they did a tribute to John Lennon and, I think, to Harrison, both maybe where McCartney's playing his piano and he's on the stage, but all of a sudden the stage started rising up, there's a platform, and he must have been.
Speaker 1:I don't know 40 feet in the air or something like this, at least 40, 50 feet in the air, and all the sides of this platform had uh, I don't know, like laser pictures, photos whatever, of space and planets or what have you, just psychedelic stuff as they were. He was shooting some uh lennon and and uh uh ge and George Harrison kind of stuff and I'm thinking the man's 80. A lot of people shoot they can't even. You know they don't want to be on a high platform like that at 80.
Speaker 2:No, I don't want to be on that high platform at 53. Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 1:I don't either. No, you know the honest thing. But that's one thing, and it was amazing, it was. It was, yeah, it was one, but he's behind a piano, yeah, and he's behind a bass guitar for part of the night and a regular guitar.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:Mick Jagger's 80. 80. Mc jagger is out there being a front man for the rolling stones on tour.
Speaker 2:He's 80, he's doing two and a half hour shows and he's moving like mc jagger like mc jagger, like we expect, like we, like he's been doing for the past 95 years I mean, it's absolutely amazing, with that, what that band is doing.
Speaker 1:People go well, you know it okay. What's the greatest band in the world? If it came down to, let's say, the Beatles and the Rolling Stones? We're kind of getting off topic here, but just for fun, right Shoot. The Beatles broke up in 1970. 1970. We're in 2024. They're the same age and the Stones are going to have the biggest selling tour of the year. Yeah, yeah, partially because, by the way, the tickets are so ridiculous for every concert, not just the Stones, but shit like oh, I cursed on my. I think that's the first time I've ever cursed on my podcast. Oh, or on air, it's the first time ever and I'm leaving it in. Do it, do it, do it. I've never cursed on my show. I don't even know what I was going to say and I don't even care. I'm leaving it at that. I cursed on my podcast. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:I'd like to thank Mick Jagger for this moment.
Speaker 1:Yes, I cursed talking about Mick Jagger. It happened.
Speaker 2:I'm leaving it in, whatever you know listen, I'm no prude, I curse sometimes I just don't try to be cheers on that.
Speaker 1:We're drinking water, by the way.
Speaker 1:It's only like hydration is coming yeah, it's only like, what time is it? It's only 12, 23. So, believe me, we're drinking water, so we're talking with Jason. Let's see, I wanted to also. Oh yeah, so in Jason's life I'm going to say this about Jason I could always tell, even though I was young, I could always tell that both of these boys were very smart. Jason was really smart and you could tell he was a very intelligent kid. I just always felt that about you, like you're always a very smart guy.
Speaker 2:Now he's proven me right for many reasons, except for one which I'll address. There's always a chink in the arm. There's the one.
Speaker 1:Chink Jason is a business owner. Still own your place up there in Chico.
Speaker 2:We actually have that on the market right now. On the market we're moving on to other things.
Speaker 1:So well, he's an entrepreneur, yeah, stand-up comedian, uh-huh Right, yep, not afraid to get up in front of people. And do see, that's something I've not done. We do two very different things. I always thought that's very interesting that a stand-up comedian, that a stand-up comedian they have the ability to stand up in front of a crowd. Take material that they've written, I would imagine. I don't know where it comes from, but I can only imagine it comes from just strictly, observations from life, that's exactly what I would say 99% of my material is.
Speaker 2:It's just, it's always in front of us, comedy is in front of everybody, but not everybody has the ability to take what they're looking at and turn it into a form of entertainment that will keep everybody's attention and keep them laughing. That's that's a very hard thing to do and I'm not always successful at it. You know, some of my sets are better than others. It just kind of depends on a lot of factors, a lot of variables, but one thing that is not a variable is comedy is always there. It is always there. It's just a matter of being able to. It's the way you look at it it's your perspective.
Speaker 1:Some people see things and can turn it into comedy. Other people see things and can analyze it in a serious way, other people can, or financial whizzes, whatever your thing is for you and for I are just trying to be funny, but smart, Alex, for me. I won't speak for you on that, but probably a little snide, a little smart-ass, we'll say entertaining.
Speaker 1:So, jason being a stand-up comedian and me being your talk radio host, who also does and this is the part I was going to bring up before I get to the part that I'm not happy about with you, where you went awry. But for Jason as a stand-up comedian, they're standing there in front of a crowd. You have material you've come up with of comedian. They're standing there in front of a crowd. You have material you've come up with you're not.
Speaker 2:I can imagine there's occasion where you ad lib something based off of this situation. Absolutely, improv is improv. Improv is a huge part of what I do.
Speaker 1:Yes, but for a lot of comedians it's they've had it, they've had. They have the routines that they've written.
Speaker 2:They've come up with routines they do, and you know, for for those that do do that, my hat's off to them. It's just not for me, just simply, because it just then becomes like a memory exercise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you can't stand up there. I can't imagine you can just stand up there. There's not a lot of Robin Williams where you can just riff for on and on and on and on and strictly ad-lib, which I again. God rest Robin Williams. He wasn't my favorite comedian. I mean I love him, but okay, you know, whatever Everyone has their own thing, but the guy could certainly ad-lib more than most people and never stop. I can't imagine anyone doing a 30-minute ad-lib. You've got to have some material weight in there.
Speaker 2:Don't can't imagine anyone doing a 30 minute ad lib. You gotta have some material weight in there, don't you? Well, you know the improv guys, like the guys in uh, whose line is it anyway for example.
Speaker 2:So, uh, they do that, but the thing is they have they. They have to follow formats in order for it to make sense. So, like uh, for example, if they do something, like uh questions, where everything has to be in the form of a question, and if they don't, they get eliminated and they bring in the next guy in. So there's always a format that has to be followed. As far as like straight ad lib, just going up there and just riffing off the top of your head, there's really not any such thing as doing that, because it's usually based on something. But you take the circumstances of the room, like, say, you have a heckler over here in the left-hand corner, you might acknowledge that. Obviously, you're not going to know about that before you go up on stage, but things happen during the set, or things happen maybe before you went out on stage that need to be addressed in the name of comedy.
Speaker 1:Sure right, and so, yeah, ad-lib is very, very important, but you can always also tell if everyone's just wanting to stick to their routines and and I and I can also imagine because I don't know, I can also imagine that you're ad living but you also got a million things that you can go to. You just pull from you're ad living one second and the next thing that ad living might lead into a joke about, you know whatever, something you already kind of have laughed, I mean worked out in your head and you just kind of connect the two and just keep moving.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, that's absolutely right. And you know, kind of going back to the memory exercise thing, it's like stuff like that where we can ad-lib and riff. It keeps us interested as performers, it keeps it interesting for us and it keeps us entertained, which is very, very important, because if we're not having fun, the crowd is going to know it right and we don't want. We don't want to put that vibe out there, especially when our mission is to try to make you laugh so if you see jason allen's name on a marquee or anywhere performing, please go check him out.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing with radio. I'll have bullet points. I'll have a general idea of what I'm going to talk about. It could go off kilter any time. You mention a heckler, you don't know, things that are not planned, things during the show, callers, what have you any circumstance that happens to that and you start riffing on that and then you go back to some stuff. The difference is it's interesting to me is so, for for a lot of comedians, um, they'll have routines, things worked out, comedy stuff they have worked out. For me, as radio, every single night is ad lib. Oh yeah, there's no routines that you out. The only thing you might have worked out is like okay, wow, they're talking about Trump and Stormy Daniels. Oh, I'll take the song Stormy, and through the song I'll have.
Speaker 1:Trump go. Every time they go, stormy, I'll have Trump go, stormy Daniels, stormy, stormy Daniels. Right, you know, or do stuff like that, or you know anyhow, but everything is completely ad-lib to the point where I mean, that's your specialty is making up jokes on the fly, difference being you're there, live. There's two crucial differences For the most part. Again, you have a routine sometimes and then you're riffing off of that and then you have instant reaction. You can see their faces and hear them Radio. You're throwing it out there. You don't know what people are doing, you don't.
Speaker 2:I'd rather do that than standing in front of the crowd. Well, yeah, I mean, you definitely get instant feedback and that's the only way you know you're doing well, you're doing bad. And then you know you're not going to find out the next day in the papers. You're not going to find out. You know, uh, a week later you know in a conversation oh I heard you did this thing and no, no, you're gonna.
Speaker 2:You're gonna know immediately yeah whether you, whether you're killing it or you're bombing it right and there's not a lot of jobs.
Speaker 1:I I mean, if you really think about it. I've thought about this in the past because on a daily basis, I get feedback on my job from people who consume it Every day, and that's pretty rare to get daily feedback on your job, and it's even rare to get relatively instantaneous feedback versus in your relatively instantaneous feedback Versus in your situation. Instantaneous feedback. Instantaneous feedback yes, mine at least, is a little bit of a delay, whether they're sitting on a phone wanting to respond, or after the show or during the show, after you've said something a few minutes later, you might, I'll get messages. Yours is just reacting directly to what you're saying, absolutely, and it's yeah, I'll get messages.
Speaker 2:Yours is just reacting directly to what you're saying Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll say this. I mean, I've been doing stand-up for 12 years now 12 plus years and every single time I've been on stage, from day one to my next show, I'm terrified. Every time I'm up there the whole time, like a lot of times I'll even black out on stage. I know what I'm saying, but I'm just, I'm just so. There's just so much going on in my brain that I won't even know I I'll just be like I won't even know where I am and the next thing I know I'll be stepping off the stage. I'm like, and then I'll forget some.
Speaker 2:I'll remember some things that I forgot to say oh, yeah, yeah but when I'm up there, it's like I'm just so in a zone that I don't really realize it, you know.
Speaker 1:Right, right, if that makes any sense. Right, yeah, oh, it makes a lot of sense. No, it does make a lot of sense. There's a lot of times where I wish I'd have got to something I meant to get to and I'm like dang to that tag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have a mutual friend who I've had on my show. Jason's been on my show Again, jason Allen, if you see him, come into a venue near you, hope you give him a shot. He's a good man, funny. We have a mutual friend, robert Berry, who comes on to my show occasionally.
Speaker 1:I love Robert Sacramento guy, another stand-up comedian, very funny. Honest truth about it is I laugh at a lot of things. Stand-up comedy isn't one of them for me. A lot of times you have to be pretty good to make me laugh. As a stand-up comedian. You make me laugh. Robert Berry makes me laugh. There are people I can go down a list. Of course it's subjective. You might go oh God, that guy never makes me laugh. She never makes me laugh. Whatever. There's things that make me laugh. Jay Leno doing headlines makes me laugh. David Letterman, when he was sarcastic as hell makes me laugh. Johnny Carson, when he'd be doing his monologue he'd be going great makes me laugh. When it didn't go great and he'd look at you like, oh crap, crap, that didn't go great, that'd make me laugh. But there's a lot of stand-up comedians that people are that are revered. I just don't maybe necessarily laugh. Jason does. Robert barry does you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, there's a. There's a lot of good local comedy, especially in this neck of the woods northern california, nevada. A lot, a lot of good names out there, and um, just just need to go check it out.
Speaker 1:Just go check it out. Just go check it out, just do it. Now to the only thing that I may be disappointed with you in Okay, and then we'll wrap it up after this, unless you have anything to say I'd like to know. All right, so again, I'm raising, I'm trying to influence this boy, and he goes two for three. He's got music. Okay, bingo, all right, let's go from there. He's got the Dodgers. You know, I'm trying to say look, this is the way you got. I mean, I'm showing you the light. You're young, I can influence you. I'm trying to show you the light. Same thing with the Rams. What the hell happened?
Speaker 2:there? How did you go awry? How did you go astray? What happened to you? Very simple, very, very simple. There was a uh. There was uh was when we're were we out of orleans? No, it, the event was in orleans, but we were living in corning at that point. Uh, so a bunch of the 49ers had come through Orland to play a charity basketball tournament against the Orland Police Department and I met several of the 49ers and they signed a whole bunch of stuff for me, right, and I was like, oh, these guys are really cool. I think I'm going to root for them now. That's all it was. I thought you were a Panthers cool, I think I'm going to root for them now. That's all it was. I thought you were a.
Speaker 1:Panthers fan. I am now Okay. So this is a typical Niner fan. They're not doing well. Jump teams. Oh, the other team not doing well, let me jump to the Niners. Sorry, niner fans. Now all the Niner fans are going to hate my guts.
Speaker 2:Now the Panthers. Here's what happened with the Panthers. So the year the Panthers went into the league, as it happened, the Panthers beat the 49ers both times their first year in the league. I was also leaving home at about that particular time, so I was feeling a little rebellious against my family. My family, you know well. The family ended up with Steve All a bunch of diehard Niner fans and so I'm like eh, take that Steve.
Speaker 2:So I just kind of stuck with them ever since and I don't know why, but I have Wow, wow I will say this, though I still have a ton of respect for the Greatest Show on Turf Wow, they were fun to watch.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, they were.
Speaker 2:I remember Kurt Warner's rookie year. I saw them in San Francisco and I'm like, wow, this guy is like the real deal, because like nobody had heard of that guy, yeah, and he just tore up the league like right off the bat. I'm like you know what I want, right off the bat. I'm like I'm you know what I want to see this guy live.
Speaker 1:Well, I have a story about that, like someone, someone knew he was going to be that good and it was me, and I'll tell you how I. I'll tell you that's absolute truth. Um, so that was probably. That was during the period of time where jason and I hadn't really been in touch for a spell. When they're when the greatest show on turf or we're doing what they were doing in the late 90s, early 2000s, did that make you think of me absolutely?
Speaker 2:why wouldn't it?
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm like that's gotta be loving this so and I and the tackle oh, mike, yeah, mike jones, yeah, greatest tackle of all time for the rams. Yeah, that's the reason I want that number 52 jersey. He was a Raider before he went to the Rams linebacker. That's right, kevin Dyson, he tackled him and all this crap. All the Titans were one yard away from winning, but what? I'm sorry, that's not even true at all. First of all, they were one yard away from, perhaps with the extra point tying the game. They weren't a yard away from perhaps with the extra point tying the game, they weren't a yard away from winning the game. Sorry, that's not what it was.
Speaker 1:No, you still have to kick the extra point You've got to kick the extra point, and even if you tie it, then you've got to stop the Rams again. So quit with the. Oh, we were just like the Jaquese tart dropping a freaking interception. I call him Jaquese, yes, I know. And a freaking pat interception, and I call him jacquees. Yes, that's not his name, I poke, you know. Oh, if he would have got the interception against you guys the nfc west championship or the nfc championship game in 2021, oh, then you would have won a game. You just told me jimmy garoppolo wasn't any good, but suddenly, with nine minutes and 46 seconds in a three-point game, suddenly he's going to march him down the field and whip the Rams' ass.
Speaker 2:Right, right, but he's just going to bust out of that game manager mode and just go straight into freaking Brett Favre gunslinger mode.
Speaker 1:I love that Well he dropped the interception or it would have been over. Oh well, because I'm pretty sure we watched the same game. See, now I'm getting way off. See, now I get all pissed off. Now you did see Ben Skoranek drop the touchdown pass in the end zone, right, didn't you, niner fan? You did see that. And Cooper Cup across the middle right to him and he dropped the pass, or that would have been a touchdown, and you couldn't stop Kendall Blanton, our fourth string tight end. Other than that, you guys and Aaron Donald sacked you when you had a minute and 30-some seconds left on the clock, which will happen, but you would have won.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Only if Jaquese Tart would have got that Anyhow.
Speaker 2:I digress, but see, like miss me with all the would-have stuff, like you know if okay, sure, if it would have happened, it would have been different, but it didn't, it didn't happen, move on.
Speaker 1:Let's. Yeah, that's right. That's right, um, and and so that's. But anyhow, I'm just giving you a bad time. So, uh, anything else you want to say anything? I've had a good time just having a conversation with you, part of my patch, peeps uh, I, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2:I I'm yeah, I don't really have much else to say how much else I've had. Uh, I was at a concert last night, so I'm still kind of still a little tired from that. But no, what did you go see the Red Hot Chili Peppers? How was it? Fantastic. They, for you, know you're talking about. I mean, let's circle back to Mick Jagger for a second Uh-huh. So the Chili Peppers are like in their late 50s, early 60s, and they still bring the energy. They do, they sure? Especially Flea.
Speaker 1:I think they're in their 60s, maybe early 60s.
Speaker 2:So they graduated high school in 83. Okay, so they're about 60. Yeah, they're close.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So I think they were born in 61. Anyway, I digress. Flea aside, Jagger still has more energy.
Speaker 1:Really yeah.
Speaker 2:I believe that, yeah, and believe me, they weren't slouches, but they weren't Mick Jagger either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's one of the reasons I think Mick is perhaps the greatest frontman. I think he's the greatest. Maybe him and I don't know maybe like a James Brown, James Brown.
Speaker 2:James Brown. I liked David Lee Roth as a frontman yeah, not so much as a singer, but a good frontman.
Speaker 1:Oh see.
Speaker 2:Because he brought the energy and he brought the life to them.
Speaker 1:I would say that maybe that's a topic for another discussion sometime. Van Halen, you know, let's do this Because I'm a huge Sammy Hagar fan. I love Sammy Hagar as a person. I like Sammy Hagar much more than I happen to like, and I don't know either one of them, but I guess just from what you observed. Then David Lee Roth, However, having said that, definitely my favorite. Van Halens are the First, and Mean Street are definitely my favorite all-time Van Halens.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I would say, the first album is definitely my favorite.
Speaker 1:Mine's, my two.
Speaker 2:Overall Mine's two. My favorite Sammy album is OU812.
Speaker 1:See, Sammy has great. You know, Sammy sang about love more often, I think, than David did.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, he sang about love. Rather than getting laid Right, they're not mutually exclusive. Get that, that is what it is yeah, anyhow, all right, jason.
Speaker 1:Hey, buddy, thank you for being on my patch.
Speaker 2:Peeps podcast it's an honor and I hope, I hope we can do this again real soon.
Speaker 1:All right, buddy I'm proud to bring you that conversation with I guess you could almost call him my stepson in many ways Jason Nelson Allen. Jason Allen, I think you should go by Jason Nelson Allen as he does a stand-up routine. So that was from yesterday. I meant to get that up yesterday but you know, as I say, life tends to get in the way. Thank you for listening to that. So that was June the 3rd when Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge, which I'll talk about on my show tonight. Today is June the 4th, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1:You know and in talking to Jason I want to segue into something from there is that you know for me again, listening to the whole fact that I was a young man, that you know for me again, listening to the whole fact that I was a young man you've heard all of that I'm working at the olive plant. Many people don't know that in Orland, california worked there for almost six years about five and a half years really did a good job I was. I always thought I did a very good job. So they thought that too kept me around and I'd go out into the Spanish yard where we did the Spanish olives, or I'd be out where the Greek olives were. Whatever I was doing, working various jobs around this Musco Olives in Orland Hello, musco. I'd be out there and I'd be listening to my headphones you know I'm a Walkman on, remember the Walkmans in the 80s and I'd be listening and I'd listen to radio and I would think, gee, you know I can do this, I've always wanted to do this. I really think I could do this music radio. I really wanted to do music radio and now I'm so blessed to be able to do talk radio and this podcast. Well, I'd be out there listening and dreaming and daydreaming about it, doing my job, daydreaming some more.
Speaker 1:So you fast forward and after five and a half years, you know, somewhere in there I started thinking about way ahead. I tend to think of like way down the line versus like more immediate things. I don't even know why, but I could foresee at the age of 25, probably more like the age of 23, 22, that and I mean this with the utmost respect to anyone I mention here that I did not want to continue working at an olive company the rest of my life in this little town. I love little towns, I live in a little town, but I didn't want to just sit there and work at an olive plant my whole life. I had bigger aspirations or I say bigger, I shouldn't say that I had other aspirations. Okay, that were things that were more that I wanted to do. These were goals in life and I knew probably about, I guess, age 23, 24, probably like 24, 25, even that I could see down the road, that I would be still there. I'd have gray hair, I imagine. I'd still be there and I would be working with Armando and Joe. Tony Rubio Ramos how are you doing buddy? Armando Martinez and John Wrongly I mean, I could just go on and on and on George Hogue, greg Paisley, jack Denise I mean I remember all of them Steve Rollinaitis, benji Masters and I wonder where everyone is now Steve Borges these are people I worked with for, like I say, almost six years. We became like a family working at this place, but I knew some of these people would still be there and guess what they are and they're blessed to be there doing what they've done their entire lives. I'm happy for them and their families.
Speaker 1:I wanted something different, so I ended up quitting, so I'm going to go take a chance on this. I got to a point in my life maybe this for another podcast where I needed to improve my life dramatically and do things I knew I needed to do before it's too late Again. I'm 25 years old, so one day I gently decide I'm not going to do this anymore. I say gently because I didn't go off on anyone, nothing like that. I just decided this is it. I need to do something else. So I stamp out, I clock out for the last time and my bosses said what are you doing, george Hogan, with this guy Dennis, we used to call him 22. Where are you going? I said you know, I'm going to go to college. And they started laughing and he told me not to come and look for my job again. Don't come to call them back here Looking for your job. College boy, something like that. And George was a good guy. These are good guys, but, man, they just had no faith and they and they teased me about them. All right, don't worry, that's fine. And if I wasn't already motivated to do this, that they just sealed it for me.
Speaker 1:So I ended up going to Butte College and that changed my life. Thank God for Butte College Free bus service enough time to figure out what you wanted to do, which led to sports broadcasting. I started doing behind the camera kind of stuff for sports and then I was able to get all of my general education out of the way and it cost, you know. One of these times I want to go into the broadcasting aspect of Butte College and some of the things my experiences there, because that would be a whole podcast in itself. However, that's where it started. Then I was doing fantastic. I couldn't believe it. I'm doing great. So I transferred to Chico State, started doing great at Chico State and I ended up graduating. Well, all these years later, I graduate in 91.
Speaker 1:And in 2004, and I won't get into the entire thing because I did that on my show last night, but in 2004, I was honored to be a part of the class of the most outstanding students at Butte College, most outstanding alumni, and I was in a great class that year, 2004, with Cheryl Leith, congressman, who was a Butte County supervisor, doug LaMalfa, the congressman, doug LaMalfa, who's been on my podcast. If you haven't heard that, go back and listen to Doug LaMalfa on my podcast. You're going to enjoy it. It's one of our most listened to podcasts so far and I was in that class in 2004 with Larry Allen. I talked about Larry Allen on my show last night.
Speaker 1:Larry Allen an offensive lineman for the 49ers for a period of time, but for the world champion Dallas Cowboys, larry Allen who was a Hall of Famer. I am so very proud because I don't want to repeat everything I said on my show last night, but I want to keep these mutually exclusive so you're not hearing repeats on my show in here. But I'm just going to say Larry Allen was a class act. That guy was huge. He was considered one of the best guards. You don't get enough recognition, I don't think in the NFL, like left tackles, for instance, or others, but this man was huge but was fast. For the life of me I can't think of. There was an interception. You'll probably know of it right away. Someone picked up the ball and Larry Allen chased this man down and sprinted for a big man. It was astonishing. I just can't, off the top of my head, remember who picked it off, but he was a good man and he died suddenly at the age of 52 while he was on vacation. I still haven't seen the cause of death, but Butte College changed Larry Allen's direction, just like it did mine.
Speaker 1:Academically, was not eligible to play D1 football, goes to Butte College, does well, moves on from there and becomes a Hall of Famer in the NFL. So my respects to Larry Allen. I am so very grateful, blessed and honored to be in the 2004 class. Four of us that year, the most outstanding alumni, most outstanding students from Butte College. Really it's made me a huge believer in community college. Also in 2010, as I did mention again last night I will repeat this just because it's just in the moment In 2010, I got a call they asked me if I would be the host to induct Aaron Rodgers into the Butte College Hall of Fame. Aaron Rodgers went to Butte College as well, a standout for the Roadrunners there. You know he grew up in Chico and it was really an honor to sit there at the table with Aaron Rodgers and his family, the longtime Packer quarterback, and now with the New York Jets. So he was a 2010 honoree there at Butte College's most outstanding alumni.
Speaker 1:You know, and I did realize in listening to the conversation with Jason Allen there. I said he asked, he said he mentioned Kurt Warner, the greatest show on turf, and I said that I mean he said, well, who would have even known that this guy was going to be so good in the NFL? He couldn't believe it. And I bragged for a moment. I said, well, I knew and maybe I'm a little off by saying that I didn't know perhaps how good he would be in the NFL and I said I would tell him that story, which then I realized in listening to that I never did so real quickly.
Speaker 1:So I'm sitting there summertime, I'm looking for a baseball game on the weekend and as I'm turning the channels, I see this guy playing for I think it was Scotland. Was it Scotland he played for? I think it was Scotland. I don't even know what this was, but it was football. And here it is in summertime and I'm like what the heck is this? And the only reason it caught my attention whatsoever is that the quarterback. We had a terrible quarterback In 1998, we had a terrible quarterback. You tested my patience. Tony Banks sucked. I couldn't stand it. We had Tony Banks and Lawrence Phillips and they sucked. Man, they about made me want to jump ship and go elsewhere. I mean, I couldn't take it Anyhow. So all of a sudden we get Trent Green. He's going to change with Dick Vermeule. He's going to change the Rams from that point forward. Okay, but I'm watching the game. It's Scotland versus whomever and I see on the.
Speaker 1:What caught my attention is each one of the players had a sticker on the back of their helmet their European helmet Turned out to be like the World League of American Football, I think it was, or the Euro League, or whatever they called it and on the back of the quarterback's helmet was a Ram sticker. And I thought, well, what the heck? Why is this? How come he's got a Ram sticker on the back of his helmet? So I stuck around. I watched part of the game, which I would never do Because I'm looking for baseball, it's summertime, right, and I'm like but this guy? And so he's just throwing darts. Like he's just throwing darts. I'm like who is this dude? And they said his name Kurt Warner and all I could think about was the former running back for the Seattle Seahawks. Remember that guy? Most people don't even remember there was a Kurt Warner running back for the Seahawks.
Speaker 1:I'm like who's this dude? Why is this guy wearing some funky uniform for Scotland or wherever in the Euro League when he should be playing with the Rams? Because he's definitely better than what we got right now in Tony Banks. So I call my buddy. Rest in peace, randy. I miss you every day. I love you, brother, I miss you so much in heaven.
Speaker 1:I call him up. He's a big Ram fan too. I go, randy, you got to look at this dude, I go. And but no, I told him. I said maybe I couldn't get ahold of him. I can't remember exactly. But I said, hey, man, I saw this guy and he's like, yeah, right, I go. I'm telling you he's better than who we have. I mean, you know Tony Banks, you've seen him.
Speaker 1:So the next thing, you know, trent Green is going to be our savior quarterback. He gets injured. Rodney Harrison, in a pre-season game, hits his knee they're playing the Chargers, it doesn't even matter and they take him down. Dick Vermeule goes on TV, cries we will play around, kurt Warner, we, we will play good football. He's crying and I never forget. Randy calls me and he goes. Well, pat, remember that guy you said was going to be a good quarterback and you thought he was going to be better than Tony Banks. I said, yeah, he goes, we're going to find out, right. I said that's right, we'll see. And he comes in and thus the greatest show in turf is born with Kurt Warner at the helm. No one could stop him. It almost looked like they were going undefeated two seasons in a row for a while, like no one could touch them.
Speaker 1:Torrey Holt, isaac, bruce, marshall, falk, guys like Jeff Robinson, robert Holcomb who people don't even remember, ricky Prohl the offensive line, the D was ranked like number six. Anyhow, I don't want to drift into that. But, randy, I love you, and so that's how I knew. And Randy goes wow, pat, this guy is the greatest man, unbelievable. And thus the Super Bowl. Randy, I miss you, so keep this in mind. I need to wrap this up, man, I'm going long. It's number 96.
Speaker 1:Hope you don't mind, this is the opposite of my mini podcast. This is longer than usual, but I just want to say if you have a friend, make sure to tell them how much they mean to you, just in whatever way you can. For instance, darlene with a Y love you. She brings me Kentucky Fried Chicken chicken pot pies. It's like a tradition for her. She's so daggone. Sweet. Darlene with a Y, tell your friends you love them and you care about them. Darlene with a Y, I love you, I care about you, all of you I do. You're all special to me and I thank you for listening. All right, and I say that because, heck, you know, we don't know the future, like, I mean, larry Allen was just 52 years old, thank goodness, all right.
Speaker 1:So as we finish up tonight, I do want to say one of the things I noticed is that a lot of people like the end of my show when we do the 45s. I'm really considering doing it. Yet just as this is just what I need is yet another podcast. I've got a radio show and a podcast, but I'm thinking about doing some mini pods right where I just do 45s and you can listen to as many as you want. So I know I teased that before, but I'm giving that some more thought because for a while I was just a bit unsure about it. Doesn't matter, but I'm thinking about doing that.
Speaker 1:So today I plucked this record out and these are in absolute mint condition. I mean, I guarantee you they've never even I'm going to pull it out for the first time. I guarantee there's two of these records in there. It's the same song on both sides. These records, I promise you have been sitting in this record sleeve since 1978. I'm going to pull them out for the first time right now. I only pulled a partial. Okay, I'm going to pull it out. Okay, listen, you can hear a little bit of there's a little dust there. That's why I don't like to generally pull them out. Bit of there's a little dust there, I don't. That's why I don't like to generally pull them out. Promotional cop, promotion copy, not for sale. And literally they've never even been on a turntable sitting on a shelf until I just moved them. They've been sitting on a shelf since 1978, just like me. So I'm gonna. This is what I'm gonna play today. No b-sides, the same song on both sides.
Speaker 1:This song was a single released by an American rock group. It was on the album. Worlds Away came out May, my birthday month of 78, and on the Billboard Hot 100 this song peaked at number six. It was always on the radio. I mean it received considerate airplay, considerable amount of time, lots and lots of spins In the summer of 78, baby, that's the summer of 78.
Speaker 1:It got played so much that it prompted a critic, the music radio critic, robert Christau, to say quote David Jenkins, hear David Jenkins sing, quote. I'm going to do. I'm doing the double quotes because I'm going to quote Christou and then I'm going to go within that. Jenkins. It's the old, rare double quote, my friends. Christou says quote. Hear David Jenkins sing, quote. Once you get past the pain 50 times in a day and the pain will be permanent.
Speaker 1:Referring to the lyrics in the chorus, some people consider it yacht rock. I never looked at it that way. Yacht rock is a relatively new term to me, but I get it. We did a show on yacht rock one night when I really realized what that was. So this song went to number eight in Australia, number five in Canada, a New Zealand. It went to number 20. Us Billboard Easy Listening 28. Cashbox top five, top 100 went to number five and, like I said, the US Billboard Hot 100, this song went to number six. Some people say I don't love it, but I don't hate it. Here's another critic. The song is written in perspective Well, this is just kind of description, perspective of the boys in the street as a whole, what path they're going to choose as they get older and grow into men. So with that, let's play it. So this song is by Pablo Cruz, who has connections to Sacramento.
Speaker 1:This is a song called love will find a way. Let's put it on the platter and give it a roll. Someone's done you wrong. You thought that your love was wrong. Now you're feeling like such a fool. Oh you, you're thinking, maybe if you said goodbye You'll understand the reason why the love you had felt so cruel. Oh, but it's alright. Once you get past the pain You'll learn to find your love again. So keep your heart open, cause love will find a way. Now, every time I hear that, get you, get past the pain when he does that. That's all I'm gonna think it was Gristhau's comment about. If you hear that enough, you'll never get rid of the pain. That's funny, I don't know. It seems like to me. I hate to interrupt the song.
Speaker 2:Sorry, popo Seems to me like Cause. It's a very commercial sounding song to me.
Speaker 1:I hate to interrupt the song, sorry, pablo, seems to me like because it's a very commercial sounding song to me, but it seemed like it had an okay like guitar lead. I haven't heard it in a while. Seemed like it had a fairly decent guitar lead, a little solo for a commercialized song. Sing along, my friends, sing along, yeah yeah. Sing-a-long, my friends Sing-a-long, yeah yeah. Let's see if the guitar riff is as I don't know. Let's see if it was as cool. I mean, it didn't like jump out at me, but it seemed like it was fairly decent. It's just kind of there, not overwhelming, maybe underwhelming, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Hey, thank you for letting me go really long today. I hope you listened to number 96. I guess I'd skip so many days. Unfortunately, I needed to get a lot out of my system. How about we see you for Pat's Peeps, number 97 tomorrow? Be well, I'm trying to get a lot out of my system. How about we see you for Pat's Peeps, number 97 tomorrow? Be well, I'm trying to get. Well, I'll hop along to my like festus, to my little studio tomorrow and try it again. Until then, love will find a way. See you on the radio.