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Ep. 106 Today's Peep California's Heat Wave, Relives Sitting Behind Home Plate for Ohtani's Home Run at Oracle Park, Best Fictional Tank Commanders and "The Americans" (A CANADIAN'S OPINION) a Rare 1973 Avco Records Gem

July 01, 2024 Pat Walsh
Ep. 106 Today's Peep California's Heat Wave, Relives Sitting Behind Home Plate for Ohtani's Home Run at Oracle Park, Best Fictional Tank Commanders and "The Americans" (A CANADIAN'S OPINION) a Rare 1973 Avco Records Gem
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Ep. 106 Today's Peep California's Heat Wave, Relives Sitting Behind Home Plate for Ohtani's Home Run at Oracle Park, Best Fictional Tank Commanders and "The Americans" (A CANADIAN'S OPINION) a Rare 1973 Avco Records Gem
Jul 01, 2024
Pat Walsh

Ever tried to film a thrilling baseball game only to capture your shoes instead? Join me as I recount my hilarious mishap at Oracle Park and salute the unsung heroes braving Northern California's heat wave. We'll bask in the camaraderie of fans at the Dodgers vs. Giants game and relive Shohei Otani's electrifying home run. Plus, a chance encounter with a gospel singer for San Quentin inmates made for an unforgettable day. You'll also get a sneak peek into my upcoming radio show with former Sacramento Sheriff John McGinnis, where we'll tackle the effort to repeal Prop 47.

From political showdowns to historic tank commanders, our discussion takes a fascinating turn as we analyze the latest debate fallout and the media's portrayal of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump. We'll reminisce about notable U.S. military figures and the infamous 1988 Michael Dukakis tank commercial that became a pivotal moment in political advertising. Along the way, we'll honor the 4th of July with tales of American patriotism and the nation's significant contributions to global infrastructure and humanitarian aid.

Lastly, we'll address the frustrations and criticisms of American foreign policy, drawing parallels from a 1988 Donald Trump interview and a 1973 commentary by Canadian journalist Gordon Sinclair. We'll explore America's unwavering support in times of global disaster and the financial struggles faced by the American Red Cross. As a Canadian, I'll call for greater international reciprocation and highlight the technological marvels achieved by American technocracy. All this, while enjoying a rare 1973 Avco Records find from my collection. Tune in for an engaging and reflective episode!

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Ever tried to film a thrilling baseball game only to capture your shoes instead? Join me as I recount my hilarious mishap at Oracle Park and salute the unsung heroes braving Northern California's heat wave. We'll bask in the camaraderie of fans at the Dodgers vs. Giants game and relive Shohei Otani's electrifying home run. Plus, a chance encounter with a gospel singer for San Quentin inmates made for an unforgettable day. You'll also get a sneak peek into my upcoming radio show with former Sacramento Sheriff John McGinnis, where we'll tackle the effort to repeal Prop 47.

From political showdowns to historic tank commanders, our discussion takes a fascinating turn as we analyze the latest debate fallout and the media's portrayal of Joe Biden versus Donald Trump. We'll reminisce about notable U.S. military figures and the infamous 1988 Michael Dukakis tank commercial that became a pivotal moment in political advertising. Along the way, we'll honor the 4th of July with tales of American patriotism and the nation's significant contributions to global infrastructure and humanitarian aid.

Lastly, we'll address the frustrations and criticisms of American foreign policy, drawing parallels from a 1988 Donald Trump interview and a 1973 commentary by Canadian journalist Gordon Sinclair. We'll explore America's unwavering support in times of global disaster and the financial struggles faced by the American Red Cross. As a Canadian, I'll call for greater international reciprocation and highlight the technological marvels achieved by American technocracy. All this, while enjoying a rare 1973 Avco Records find from my collection. Tune in for an engaging and reflective episode!

Speaker 2:

We are back to the Pats Peeps Number 106. 106, baby, right on 106 on your dial. How are you doing? Weekend is over, it's a Monday. This is the Pat's Peeps Podcast. 106, which is about the temperature today, by the way, seriously 106.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't know if it's 106 just yet, but I can tell you this it is hot and it's probably going to be right around there, as I stare out of my studio windows, right next to my beautiful new French doors, which you've heard ad nauseum, but there they are. God, it's beautiful to look out these into this foothills of Northern California. It is supposed to be, let me see. It's supposed to be, let me see, supposed to be a 103 today, 103 degrees, and then, just for good measure, tomorrow we're looking at 109 in this area up in the foothills. Well, actually in Sacramento it'll be 109. That's what they're expecting, but it's very close to that. Here in the foothills It'll be about 108, maybe Might even be 109. It gets hot up here as well. So we're expecting 109. But then on Wednesday it's going to be 112 degrees, according to those who know, 112 on Wednesday, and I don't even want to hear.

Speaker 2:

Well, global warming, look, I can remember it being 112 degrees when I was a kid and those were ancient times, so I know that it gets hot in Sacramento. It just does. It's part of being in Sacramento. People always say well. People always cite things like well, look at the global warming, for instance, in Phoenix, where it gets to 120. Guess what? Look how much concrete is in Phoenix that right there adds to your heat, your heat index.

Speaker 2:

I'm no meteorologist, I'm no scientist, I'm no climate expert, but I think if you ax your experts, you ax them. They might tell you that 110 on Friday. So hopefully you can handle the heat. I'll tell you it's amazing. Some of the people who are up on the rooftops doing roofing, people who are out on the streets working on the roadways there's a lot of people that are doing jobs in that heat that I don't envy Climbing into someone's attic, if I don't know. In someone's attic, if no matter what, it is not addict, but whatever job you're doing up there, anyhow, it could be miserable. So hopefully everyone's going to try to do their best to stay cool. So wherever you're listening from, if it's not 112, 109 degrees, hope you're staying nice and cool and refreshed. Anyhow, I'm also the host of the Pat Walsh Show as heard nationally and internationally on your iHeartRadio app and heard in Sacramento live Monday through Friday, 7 to 10 pm. So thank you if you listen to my radio show. I sure appreciate that and say, over the weekend, oh, I had a good time over the weekend, went to a baseball game, went to see the Dodgers and the Giants, and I went with Ryan Harris who really, you know, he invited me and then he invited my friend, or my friend, jason.

Speaker 2:

Jason Allen has been on the show as well. Jason, who I raised for in his formidable years, even when I was just a kid you can go back and listen to that podcast and then Ryan's friend, friend Trent, who we, we met for the first time. We all went down to the, uh, to Oracle Park watch the Dodgers take on the Giants. You know that was a big day for Dodger fans. Now, congratulations to the Giants. They did take two or three. I think it was two or three anyhow, but that day on Saturday, man, it was a great time and a great crowd, but just a wonderful crowd. It was a. You know it was a good crowd just in terms of just good fun. You know, good, clean fun, no one getting heated, people being nice to each other, even though there was some fun sarcasm back and forth here and there, which I really enjoyed as well.

Speaker 2:

I need to go back and listen to the game, because I'm pretty sure at some point you're going to hear me in the background. You know what happened during a game Is I decided because we were sitting. We had great seats. We're sitting right behind home plate there at Oracle, and the first time I got up I thought you know, let me go out and try to do a Facebook live. Those are always a bit tricky for me. I don't know about you. You know you go live on Facebook. Well, I had it all set up, but I didn't think I had it right. By the way, then, the next thing I know, I looked down and I panicked because somehow, inadvertently I have no clue how I did it Apparently I hit record and then I looked at my Facebook page and it had posted. I didn't even know I was recording and basically what I recorded was my shoes and socks, probably the seat in front of me, god knows what the ground, and then I kind of went oh God, no, no, no, no. So I erased it. I erased it, and so I missed the show.

Speaker 2:

A Shohei Otani first at bat. So I knew he was coming up again and so the second time I was more prepared. I had my Facebook open, I was going to do live streaming on Facebook and I wrote my little description. I'm sitting behind home plate at Oracle Park, great seats, great seats, otani at the plate. So I'll set up and I hit go start recording, just as the baseball announcer says now batting. You know Shohei Otani. He walks up to the plate. I get this perfect timing. He fouls off a couple of pitches and, what do you know, shohei goes off and hits a home run. I just happened to catch it. Here it is, here it is Happened to catch it.

Speaker 2:

So there was the announcement. There I am there. I am there, I am yelling. Yeah, I know I'm played. Now he takes a cut Swing and a miss. I could have played just the home run, but you know what? I gave it away that he had a home run, but I could have just played that. But here's the whole of that Really full crowd that day, lots of Dodger fans there Mixed in with the Giants fans. Gorgeous weather, oh the great Beat, laorgeous weather, all the great Beat, la chant. There's the guy behind me yelling. It was good, friendly, good friendly.

Speaker 2:

So he fouls another one On this pitch. I think the guy goes hit it, hit it anywhere, and he does. So. There you go. The guy in front of me was a gospel singer for Death Row at San Quentin. How's that All right? One more foul. Yeah, that's what he told me. He says yeah. He says yeah, I sing gospel for the death row inmates on San Quentin. I think it was he and his grandson sitting right in front of us. It is right here. Here we go. It is right there. I can't retire me. Yeah, come on, baby. There I am, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There I am, I think.

Speaker 4:

I was excited.

Speaker 2:

So that was my day at the baseball park, which, by the way, I got a message from Jason. Like I said, jason went with us. Jason said here's a little fun stat from the game that we went to the game that the Dodgers actually won. They scored seven runs in extra innings in one frame. It was a football score at the end 14-7. Same score as the Super Bowl between the Dolphins and the Redskins back in the day, like 73 or 4, whatever that was. Jason says fun stat from our game. The Dodgers were the first team since the 1966 Astros to score at least seven runs in an extra inning before recording it out.

Speaker 2:

I love baseball for so many reasons. One of the reasons is that they have those truly obscure stats which I just love. So, yeah, really good time at the ballpark and I got to go to the game where my team won. But again, congratulations to the Giants fans. But you know we're sitting there watching one of the greatest players I mean arguably, when it's all said and done, you could chalk up, you know, shohei Otani as one of the best players in baseball. We'll wait and see. Can't judge him like that just yet. But certainly we'll wait and see. Can't judge him like that just yet, but certainly we'll wait and see.

Speaker 2:

Fourth of July is coming up this week. I think it's on Friday, yeah, friday, right, friday. Is it Thursday or Friday Thursday? I think yeah, thursday. Thursday is the fourth, so I'm going to take Thursday and Friday off of my show. I may do some podcasting on those days. Thursday Thursday is the 4th, so I'm going to take Thursday and Friday off of my show. I may do some podcasting on those days, though Tonight on my radio show I'm going to have former Sacramento Sheriff John McGinnis on.

Speaker 2:

I hope he remembers. I need to get a hold of him, but I'm expecting him on this evening and we are going to help with this effort that I'm all for, which is to repeal Prop 47. Get rid of it. That I'm all for, which is to repeal Prop 47. Get rid of it. It's dumb. It's not just dumb, it's pathetic, it's disgusting, it doesn't work. It's the reason that many businesses in the state are closing down. You know about it and we're trying to do it. He, john, is trying to do his best to get rid of it and I'm certainly, like I say, all about helping him in any way I possibly can to get rid of it and I'm certainly all like I say all about helping him in any way I possibly can. Let's see what else do we have? Oh yes, speaking of the 4th of July, god bless America. I say that every time I end my show. And here we are, in the midst of the presidential year, where we're going to be voting on a president Wow, that was.

Speaker 2:

I know we talked about this a little bit, or did we talk about this? Have we talked about this on my podcast? I don't know that we have. It was very sad the other night to see what happened in the debate. I know it's been talked about Everyone's. It was a feeding frenzy after that debate and we talked about it extensively on my radio show and even into the next night.

Speaker 2:

But it was sad, in my opinion, for many, many reasons. One of them was just, I mean, joe Biden. It was an awful debate. Even if I didn't have a horse in a race, that was an awful, awful debate. Everything has been said about it. I get it already. It's been said.

Speaker 2:

You know, sometimes these, the media, will build something up so much that you just tend to not kind of buy into it. And perhaps I thought for a while yeah, okay, the president stumbled here and there physically going up to you know, the stairs to a plane and he was painted out to be a fool. He was made to be a buffoon, he couldn't handle this and he wasn't competent, everything. I never really necessarily bought into all that hype because, let's face it, both sides do it. Fox and CNN, that's the teams. You're either part of it or you're not and you just go after the other person.

Speaker 2:

But just being honest, when I saw the other night, it was very sad to see, just like the forlorn face of Joe Biden, if I might use that word. Sometimes when Trump was talking, he just Biden seems so distant, almost. And do I use the word curious I don't want to say curious, astonished, in a way I'm not sure what word Almost grappling with the reality of the situation he was in and apparently they'd practiced with him so much. Maybe, you know, sometimes you practice too much, maybe you make someone nervous. I don't want to make too much of it at this point because again it's been said and then, of course, afterwards, the only way to spin it.

Speaker 2:

It was amazing to me that I go onto the CNN website right afterwards and I rarely I don't log in on purpose, I just see what they post all the time and I see their agenda, just like Fox the other way. But I was curious that night after the debate, so I go to the CNN website. Everything is oh Curious. That night after the debate, so I go to the CNN website. Everything is oh no, we're in trouble. It's panic time. This guy's got to go. How about that? You know what they do, they being the liberals, the Democrats. They say they will tell you that. I got a million examples, I can play for you.

Speaker 2:

And we've heard Joy Bayar, who's not even a politician on the View, the worst television show of all time just the other day, say well, who's not even a politician on the View the worst television show of all time, just the other day say well, the Trump supporters, his supporters, nothing will ever shake them Like no one will ever be shaken on that side, because they're all evil if they believe, if they don't believe in Joe Biden's philosophies, and if they don't think that way, then they're evil, they're degenerates, right, right, hillary. But so that's what they'll tell you that you're a degenerate and you will never not support your candidate. But as soon as we see anything, some buffoonery if that's a word on Biden's side, everyone's ready to jump ship. I'm out of here. Things need to be changed. They better stop him now and put someone like Gavin Newsom in. God forbid, please. I'm telling you the biggest mistake we could make. There's only one way I would be more frightened, and that would be to have Gavin Newsom in that seat. Well, okay, hold up now.

Speaker 2:

I just thought about Kamala Harris being in presidential. Oh, oh, stop Stop thinking about that, patrick. Truly a nightmare either way, with 4th of July coming up, it being a presidential year and, all I thought, an election year, I should say I thought about a couple of things. I thought about one guy who you, you know what I thought about. I'll just put it in these terms the greatest and the worst tank commanders, us tank commanders. All right, god bless America, 4th of July. Of course there's two of the greatest George Patton come on, George Patton. But that's not really what I'm talking about here when I say greatest or worst, I could also say you know, george Patton, of course, a US general. I could also say US Staff Sergeant Lafayette G Poole, who was a tank ace. 258 enemy kills made him a tank ace. But let's go with fictional. I'm going fictional in this case, the greatest and the worst fictional tank commanders of all time. Again, in honor of a presidential election year and the 4th of July the first I will get to. Let's see which one do I want to do first. All right, the first 1988. All right, the first 1988.

Speaker 2:

I remember being a young man and seeing this commercial and laughing so hard. Absolutely amazing to me. Commercial comes on and I'm trying to think where's the first time? What was going on when I saw this commercial. I know why now I remember it as particularly the first time as we listen to Matt Bennett. Matt Bennett was Michael Dukakis' advance team in 1988.

Speaker 2:

Anyone remember the tank commercial with Michael Dukakis? You know why at first time it really stands out in my mind and I'd forgotten about this. It was because it happened during game three of the 1988 World Series, the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Oakland A's Same series that Kirk Gibson hit as historic home run for LA, october 18th 1988, third game of the World Series. That's the first time the ad ran. As you will hear, politico did a great piece on this. Again. Matt Bennett talked about the embarrassing moment when they decided that the public felt the voters felt the Dukakis was way soft on international affairs, military and such. And it only got worse when he tried to get in with Tank and put that giant Gazoo helmet. Hey dumb, hello dumb dumb. Remember Gazoo and the Flintstones? I remember he looked like Gazoo, his head sticking out of a tank. Matt Bennett describes.

Speaker 4:

One cardinal rule of advance is never, ever put your candidate in any kind of hat or headgear.

Speaker 5:

This seems to go back to 1927. President Calvin Coolidge is presented with a Native American headdress. If somehow a politician uses costume to change a perception of one's character different from who they truly are, viewers tend to raise questions.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely right. That's absolutely right. It's always been interesting to me to see Donald Trump wearing a ball cap. Maybe he gets away with it because he sort of started with that and it's his own hat. It's not like he's trying to be a construction worker and wearing a hard hat or a tank commander like Michael Dukakis. So the press says Matt Bennett Dukakis. So the press says Matt Bennett Dukakis' advanced team 88, goes to see this scene where they're going to stage Michael Dukakis in the tank 90 traveling press with us or thereabouts, including famous people.

Speaker 4:

We had Sam Donaldson and the network anchors who were with us and people from the New York Times, the Washington Post. When the tank came out there was just this kind of instant reaction and it wasn't the reaction we were hoping for, it was hilarity. They started laughing at him. I remember Sam Donaldson laughing. Some of them were laughing so hard that they were kind of doubled over. They just thought it was the most ridiculous thing that they had seen Mike Dukakis do in the course of this campaign. I knew we were in trouble. Didn't know how much trouble, but I knew we were in some trouble.

Speaker 6:

I knew it was a mistake on their part the minute I saw it.

Speaker 5:

The director of advertising for the Bush quail campaign, Sig Rogich, who had worked on Ronald Reagan's 1984 re-election campaign, the so-called Morning in America campaign. He wants to spend as much time as he can making uplifting positive spots for Vice President Bush, but he's not one to miss an opportunity if it falls in his lap.

Speaker 6:

I remember seeing it and thought how foolish he looked and what a great TV commercial that would make. Here was a guy who was wearing what looked like a Snoopy dog hat and he wanted to be commander-in-chief of our country and I was a little shocked that they put him in that setting. You know, there's always been a rule for me never put a guy in a ad if you can avoid it.

Speaker 5:

And what results is this incredibly powerful ad that airs on Tuesday, October 18th, the third game of the World Series between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Oakland A's?

Speaker 1:

Michael Dukakis has opposed virtually every defense system we developed. He opposed new aircraft carriers days. He even criticized our rescue mission to Grenada and our strike on Libya, and now he wants to be our commander-in-chief. America can't afford that risk.

Speaker 2:

I'll never forget that. I'll never forget it. I started laughing at the end. When he points at the camera and he starts laughing, he's smiling at press. I thought that was a genius move to air that as a campaign ad, amazing. And then, of course, george Bush defeated Dukakis, took all but 10 states and Dukakis finished out his term as governor, retired from public life. And then Matt Bennett, by the way, who we heard from in that piece. Again, that piece is from Politico. Thank you to them. Nice job. Went on to serve in the Clinton White House, co-found the group Third Way.

Speaker 2:

So that would mean to me, fictional-wise, the worst tank commander. Fictional-wise, the best tank commander goes to the gentleman who, sadly, we just lost just a couple of weeks ago, donald Sutherland, who in one of my favorite movies saw it at the drive-in movie what About you. In the movie Kelly's Heroes he played Oddball the tank commander, the stoned-out tank commander. Great scene as he's kicked back in his chair drinking a little hooch, donald Sutherland, tully Savalas comes up to him. You have Gavin McCloud and Don Rickles also in the scene from Kelly's Heroes as Oddball takes a rest.

Speaker 6:

Hi man, what are you doing? I'm drinking wine and eating cheese and catching some rays. You know what's happening. Well, the tank's broken and they're trying to fix it. Then why the hell aren't you up there helping them? Oh man, I only ride them. I don't know what makes them work. Oh, creeps, definitely an antisocial type. That's my other dog imitation. It's shot kelly. Well, maybe we can use the fuel pump from that tank. No, no, it won't work on the clint eastwood, also in this scene business is business.

Speaker 2:

I figured I'd have Don Rickles make his joke there at the end. Throw a little politics back into the mix. My favorite, thank you. Oddball, needs a bridge too. My favorite and least favorite fictional tank commanders of all time.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of America, the 4th of July, you know I pulled this record from my 45 collection, my super rare 45 collection, and I cannot even believe what I pulled out. I've never. So here I am doing this theme. I pull out this record. It's the first one I pulled out from Avco. It's a purple label. It still has the purple and white Avco sleeve. It's not the usual green generic radio station sleeve. This has still got the original sleeve. Let's see 19. Let me pull it out here. Hold on here, hold on. Oh, this is in great shape. 1973 Avco Records. Never heard of this.

Speaker 2:

One side is narrated. I'm not going to play that side because it's just a profile of the artist. That might be kind of interesting just to hear that. What the heck that is. But anyhow, this side though I am going to play. Purple and orange label.

Speaker 2:

Now, this song, which I'm pretty sure I can tell you I've never heard of, is a commentary. It's by a Canadian broadcaster. I'm just going to tell you I've never heard of. It's a commentary, it's by a Canadian broadcaster. I'm just going to tell you who it is. Not leave you any mystery here, because it's a mystery to me too.

Speaker 2:

Broadcaster Gordon Sinclair, originally written for a regular broadcast on CFRB radio in Toronto, june 5th of 73. There you go, became a media and public phenomenon. Wow, okay. It was replayed several times a day by some United States radio stations and released as a hit audio recording in several forms. I'll be darned, I had no idea. Ronald Reagan credited it for giving comfort to the United States in difficult times, no kidding. And it was widely rediscovered and re-decimated as Re-decimated. Re-decimated I didn't mean decimated, disseminated, big difference. I'd hate for it to be decimated, as I'm reading that it's not decimated as the United States faced new crisis of the 2000s. So anyhow, june 5th, sinclair discussed some stories from the day's news Widespread, heavy tornado damage afflicted the US Midwest, the Mississippi River was in a flood stage, nato damage afflicted the US Midwest, the Mississippi River was in a flood stage, the American Red Cross facing imminent threat of insolvency. And the United States dollar reached very low levels, something that Sinclair, a market watcher, was very aware of.

Speaker 2:

The song is called the Americans A Canadian's Opinion. How about that? So I have no idea what this sounds like, but if Ronald Reagan liked it, then I guess it's not a slam on America. Ronald loved America. God bless Ronnie Reagan. The song was not widely the Americans not widely reported later, an angry response to countries that were criticizing the American failure in Vietnam. Instead, sinclair's commentary stated that when many countries faced economic crisis or natural disasters, americans were among the most generous people in the world at offering assistance. But when America faced a crisis, it often faced that crisis alone. Just like the Kinks did right, captain America in the songinks did right. Captain America in the song Captain America like 1977. This is Captain America calling right, I've helped you out when I'm down on my knees. You know that song. That's great. So here it is the Americans A Canadian's Opinion by Gordon Sincclair.

Speaker 7:

I'll be listening for the first time the united states dollar took another pounding on german, french and and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971, and this Canadian thinks it's time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people in all the world. As long as 60 years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtze Well. Who rushed in with men and money to help. The Americans did that's who. They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Mississippi is underwater and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, japan and, to a lesser extent, britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans, who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

Speaker 2:

You know, as I'm listening to this, who does this sound like? Not musically, I've never heard this, but who does it sound like? As I'm listening, it occurred to me it sounds like Donald Trump. Before you gasp. He's always talking about countries not paying their way. How many times have we heard that from Donald Trump? Over and over, I mean, that's been a story on more than one occasion. Anyhow, I'll finish playing here.

Speaker 7:

When the Frank was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. And I was there. I saw that when distant cities are hit by an earthquake, it's the United States that hurries in to help. Managua, nicaragua, is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped. The Marshall Plan, the Truman Policy, all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries, and now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent warmongering Americans.

Speaker 2:

Wow, wow. Let me see if I can pull this up from 1988. 1988, donald Trump on Oprah Winfrey. Let's see if I can find that for you real quick here.

Speaker 3:

I know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to run. Would you ever?

Speaker 2:

Probably not Dang it. I hate when they put the music if you did run for president.

Speaker 3:

You believe you'd win. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 8:

I think I'd win. I tell you what I wouldn't go in to lose.

Speaker 2:

I've never gone in to lose in my life if you pick me, you're going to pick a winner. See, I'm just trying to. I want him to tell you about the other countries not paying their way.

Speaker 3:

You took out a full-page ad in major US newspapers last year criticizing US foreign policy. What would you do differently, Donald?

Speaker 8:

I'd make our allies, forgetting about the enemies, the enemies you can't talk to so easily. I'd make our allies pay their fair share. We're a debtor nation. Something's going to happen over the next number of years with this country, because you can't keep going on losing 200 billion. And yet we let Japan come in and dump everything right into our markets and everything. It's not free trade. If you ever go to Japan right now and try to sell something, forget about it, oprah. Just forget about it. It's almost impossible. They don't have laws against it. They just make it impossible. They come over here. They sell their cars, their VCRs. They knock the hell out of our companies. And hey, I have tremendous respect for the Japanese people. I mean, you can respect somebody that's beating the hell out of you, but they are beating the hell out of this country, kuwait. They live like kings the poorest person in Kuwait. They live like kings and yet they're not paying. We make it possible for them to sell their oil. Why aren't they paying us 25% of what they're making? It's a joke.

Speaker 2:

So this is Donald Trump talking In 1988, this song from Gordon Sinclair, who was far before Trump politics, who was a Canadian. I'll just replay part of what he just said, what he just sang here.

Speaker 7:

Germany, japan and, to a lesser extent, britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans, who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris and I was there. I saw that when distant cities are hit by earthquake, it's the United States that hurries in to help. Managua, nicaragua, is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped. The Marshall Plan, the Truman Policy, all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries, and now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent warmongering Americans.

Speaker 2:

Back to 1988. Let's see what else he says on Oprah.

Speaker 3:

This sounds like political presidential talk to me and I know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to 1988. Let's see what else he says on Oprah. This sounds like political presidential talk to me and I know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to run. Would you ever?

Speaker 8:

Probably not. But I do get tired of seeing the country ripped off. Why would you not? I just don't think I really have the inclination to do it. I love what I'm doing. I really like it. Also, it doesn't pay as well. But you know, I just probably wouldn't do it, oprah, I probably wouldn't. But I do get tired of seeing what's happening with this country and if it got so bad, I would never want to rule it out totally, because I really am tired of seeing what's happening with this country, how we're really making other people live like kings and we're not.

Speaker 2:

What do you think of this? He's so okay. There he is 88, back to 73.

Speaker 7:

Now I'd like to see a canadian's point of view in 73, just one of those countries that is floating over the erosion of the united states dollar, build its own airplane. Come on, now you let's hear it. Does any country in the world have a plane to equal a boeing jumbo jet, the Lockheed TriStar or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all?

Speaker 2:

international lines. Except you know this has got the battle hymn of the republic in behind it, a battle hymn of the republic. It's not me piecing that together, that's the song With Gordon Sinclair. It sounds like he's doing his narration over the battle hymn of the republic. This isn't me putting together a Donald Trump for president piece, but I that occurred to me as I was listening to the song. I'm thinking whoa, he's saying, 15 years before this 88 clip, the same thing that Trump was saying in 88.

Speaker 7:

Russia by American plane. Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or a woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon not once, but several times, and safely home again, you talk about Conclude that right there with episode 106.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to leave it right there. Thank you for your opinion. Gordon Sinclair, Thank you for listening to my Pat's Peeps podcast number 106. See you tomorrow for 107. God bless.

Speaker 7:

America and Paul at home to spend up here when the Americans get out of this bind as they will. Who could blame them if they said to hell with the rest of the world, Let somebody else buy the bonds, Let somebody else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes? When the railways of France and Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both of them are still broke.

Speaker 7:

I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name to me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help. Even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone and I'm one Canadian who is damn tired of hearing them kicked around. They'll come out of this thing with their flag high and when they do, they're entitled to thumb their noses at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of these, but there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke. This year's disaster, with the year less than half over, has taken it all and nobody, but nobody, has helped.

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