Life Unmastered

Steak, Lobster, and... Sippy Cups??

November 21, 2023 Season 1 Episode 22
Steak, Lobster, and... Sippy Cups??
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Steak, Lobster, and... Sippy Cups??
Nov 21, 2023 Season 1 Episode 22

This week we're starting with an update on Adam Johnson - the hockey player who tragically lost his life on the ice in an incident that shook not only the NHL, but the whole world.

Then, turning the tables, we take you to the restaurant scene and dive deep into restaurant etiquette.  We discuss "poor-mannered child" surcharges, mandatory gratuity, and tipping culture. We also chat about the things we said we'd never let our kids do at the dinner table... before we had kids. Listen in to see what changed.

Is it okay to bring your young children to a fancy restaurant? Join us as we talk it out!

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This week we're starting with an update on Adam Johnson - the hockey player who tragically lost his life on the ice in an incident that shook not only the NHL, but the whole world.

Then, turning the tables, we take you to the restaurant scene and dive deep into restaurant etiquette.  We discuss "poor-mannered child" surcharges, mandatory gratuity, and tipping culture. We also chat about the things we said we'd never let our kids do at the dinner table... before we had kids. Listen in to see what changed.

Is it okay to bring your young children to a fancy restaurant? Join us as we talk it out!

Support the Show.

Thanks for joining us for your weekly dose of confidently unqualified advice!
Let's keep the conversation going! Connect with us below!

Instagram: www.instagram.com/lifeunmasteredpodcast
Email: lifeunmasteredpodcast@gmail.com
Website: www.lifeunmasteredpodcast.com

Speaker 1:

Hey everybody, welcome back to Life Unmastered. Thank you for joining us for another week. If you guys can please take a second to hit that subscribe button, if you haven't already, and we would love it if you could leave us a five star rating and a review. Thank you so much for your love and support each week, so this week we're going to dive right into a few updates.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's some stuff going on.

Speaker 1:

Always is First. I wanted to talk about Adam Johnson. We talked about him a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2:

The hockey player right, yes.

Speaker 1:

So for any of you who might have missed that episode, adam Johnson is a US-born hockey player who was playing in a league in England and he unfortunately died on live TV on the ice after getting cut across the throat with a hockey skate. It was very tragic and it's been a big deal because it's one of those freak accidents. It's everywhere, it's everywhere, it is everywhere.

Speaker 1:

It's a big deal, and I think the fact that it happened on live TV was just naturally a big deal, especially with the way the internet is now. That video circulated everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it went viral quick.

Speaker 1:

But also, too, I think that it was a big deal because this is, you know, hockey is gaining some traction, I think, as it is. But I think just the pure, I don't know, I mean it was. I would say that it was done on purpose. What the other player did, not that he meant to kill the player, but he meant to injure.

Speaker 1:

So this other player Matt, I think his name, the last name is Petgrave he was actually arrested and charged with manslaughter. He did post bail the following day and he'll be out on bail until the investigation ends and the trial begins. But what was interesting is that we had just talked about how this was such a big thing.

Speaker 2:

So public and everybody saw what happened.

Speaker 1:

Everybody saw what happened, everybody knew who the player was.

Speaker 2:

The players involved. Right yeah.

Speaker 1:

And they had talked about his name and how he had come out and made a statement about it and everything, and then, once the rest was made, everybody hid, tried to hide his name.

Speaker 2:

They're like the suspect was arrested, yeah Like as if it was some random person.

Speaker 1:

But the police haven't released his name. Yeah, what?

Speaker 2:

This is so weird.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I mean man, it just sucks because who knows? It just sucks.

Speaker 2:

There's been lots of instances in the hockey world throughout history where a player's emotions got the best of them and they retaliated in a way that have either hurt or like ended careers and that has always been like a very negative eye for the game of hockey. So I bet that has to do with some of the not backlash, but like the attention this is getting, like it's almost like even like the hockey world is like addressing, like we're taking this seriously.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I remember over the last few years how people are like, oh, you have to stop the violence in hockey and like, stop the fighting, but it's part of the game.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, the fighting is part of the game, but you know stabbing somebody in the neck with your skate Correct. Very different. That is not.

Speaker 1:

So we also talked a little bit about whether the NHL would adopt the net guard, and they haven't made it a rule, but we have started seeing some of the big players start wearing them.

Speaker 2:

They're promoting it hard, like where it's. It's almost weird to me, like how hard it's being promoted, like randomly, every hockey podcast or channel or anything that has to do with the game of hockey on any level. It seems is like promoting the net guard.

Speaker 1:

I think it was like I said, it was shocking and I think, even though it's never happened before and they say, the chances of it ever happening again are so slim you know, the hockey league has been around for such a long time but I think if you can wear something that's going to prevent something like that from happening, then why not. I guess, and also I would. I think all of the players who aren't wearing it are like this is uncomfortable, it's probably never gonna happen. Why would I wear this?

Speaker 2:

Well, hockey is a funny game that way where when you go back and look at the rules and like how like protective equipment has been introduced. They it I always like talk about. If you ever watch a baseball game, like the batter will like go up and even if it's like a strike, they'll like step back from the plate and like readjust their gloves. That everything has to be so perfect. Like hockey is the same way, it seems, because, like even-.

Speaker 1:

What are they called? What people do all the time just to do it because they don't want to mess up their ritual, superstition, superstition so.

Speaker 2:

But like it's kind of similar, yeah, and it's almost like things that are so obvious to us, like the mask on a goalie. For the longest time, like goalies didn't even wear masks and like if you did, it was looked down on. Like what are you afraid?

Speaker 1:

You told me that the other day and I didn't know that hockey players never wore masks. I thought they wore those masks that you saw in that scary movie.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was the first hockey mask, so like that, that's what they first looked like, but originally because the way the equipment was and the way the game was played it wasn't like you had a 100 mile per hour slap shots going towards people's face, like the puck was never up, it was always on the ground.

Speaker 1:

Who would sign up to be a goalie? It's a special sport.

Speaker 2:

It's a special sport I mean now they've got all the padding and.

Speaker 1:

I mean people Even now People like you who do goalies. You know it's still dangerous.

Speaker 2:

It is dangerous. You never know when a skate blade is going to be used on yourself.

Speaker 1:

So real quick, I'm not going to get all into this, I don't think that-. Mike filled in for his beer league one tournament to be the goalie and he comes home and with a massive gash in his leg he walks on the front door and only says you need to take him to the hospital.

Speaker 2:

He cut his leg open with my own skate, with his own skate.

Speaker 1:

So it's still a dangerous sport.

Speaker 2:

There's no guard for that.

Speaker 1:

So, anyway, just a little update on all of that, and then switching gears a little bit. I heard this story the other day and I thought we could talk about it a little bit, because it is let me just tell you real quick. So a family in Georgia went out to dinner. There were like four or five different families, 11 kids total, the ages were three to eight, and they went to like a fancy restaurant which in the beginning, like why are you going to take kids to a fancy restaurant? But that-.

Speaker 2:

I'll save my thoughts till you're done.

Speaker 1:

So they each family got charged a $50 surcharge for having misbehaved children and, like I said, it was not a family friendly restaurant and it was stated on the top of the menu that if you had children that were loud in your group that you would get charged this fee. And the family said that they thought it was a joke, which I don't know why. You would just dismiss it if it was on the menu.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if somebody's going to ask you unrelated, but like if you're getting asked to tip machines nowadays, like if it says it they need it, yeah right.

Speaker 1:

So, anyways, this family was just absolutely upset. It's been on the news, it's been, you know. They're just completely upset about this and I have my own thoughts and opinions about it, but everybody seems very divided on it. Of course they are, but I just thought, after hearing that, your first reaction, first thoughts is it okay for the restaurant to charge that $50 fee?

Speaker 2:

Yes, like absolutely, it's right on the menu. Like hey, we're going to do this and, like you said, it was a nicer restaurant. Like I'm assuming there's other people in the restaurant who paid a lot of money to enjoy a quiet dinner together.

Speaker 1:

Right. So that is my first initial and still reaction is yes. I feel like for a few reasons, one being that any business has a right to run their business however they want.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and it's not like it was like a mystery thing, like it's right there.

Speaker 1:

So if you, if that's my business and that's a thing that I have, and I'm okay with some people not attending because they have kids or whatever, I think that's totally okay, it's your business. But I think that also too, as a business especially with a fancy restaurant where people are coming to your restaurant to pay a lot of money for a meal that business is responsible for not only that family with all the kids, but everybody else who's dining at their restaurant too, making sure that their experience is enjoyable.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think we've seen examples of this when we've been out and not even at a nice restaurant or like a fancy place, but like people I feel are getting a little not careless but letting kids kind of do whatever they want.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that people feel like because they're paying for a meal, then that also means that they're paying for their kid. You know their kid's messes to be cleaned up off the floor. Yeah. Like which yes, there are Accidents happen Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Like when we go out. So I'm kind of jumping because you just raised up a huge point. But we I don't expect you to like kids spill, but if, like a plate of chicken nuggets or something falls on the floor, like we're gonna pick up what we can pick up, Obviously we don't have a broom at the table to like sweep and clean up the rest, but, like you, don't just walk away.

Speaker 1:

I think people are just getting too comfortable, Like do you remember when we went out to Guadalajara's and there was that family? There was three families there with a kid Very similar. Very similar situation. I mean, guadalajara's is a family friendly restaurant, even still, it's not just a free-for-all. So this family is sitting there, their kids are sprawled out along the floor, full on laying down. In front of other tables so the waitress cannot get to her tables.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or she has to try to step over these kids who are on the floor playing with like cars and not like oh, they're on the floor coloring or playing with iPads. They have actual toys that are like flying around the restaurant floor.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but they also had teenagers that are supposed to be watching them, I guess that are just laying on their backs on the floor on their phones, like it was as if they were at home. It was the weirdest thing.

Speaker 2:

This is not your living room.

Speaker 1:

And so we're eating dinner. It had no effect on us other than us feeling bad for the waitress.

Speaker 2:

And extremely judgmental.

Speaker 1:

But I'm just like it was so distracting for me the whole meal. I'm just like I cannot believe that these parents are letting their and they were all fine with it. They were totally fine with it. They didn't even say sorry and even when the waitress multiple times had to be like, oh excuse me, or can you? You know they were upset at the waitress. I'm just like what happened that everyone's like entitled to just treat this business as if it's their own.

Speaker 2:

That's what it is. It's this sense of entitlement that is like infected culture to where, like, I'm paying you a fee, so you must do whatever I want. But that's not.

Speaker 1:

I was just I was blown away by it. But obviously, especially this story you hear, you know it. Clearly, businesses are required to start using these methods of charging a surcharge to keep the level of their restaurant at you know, whatever it is that they wanna keep it Like. If you want a fancy adult only restaurant, then you need to put in these you know rules in order to keep it that way.

Speaker 2:

Everyone wants it both ways right. Like for our generation, I feel like we're looked down on for having like iPads or phones or whatever at the table. But when you think about it, I mean our kids aren't perfect by any means and we aren't perfect parents by any means, but at least for the majority of the time when we're at a restaurant they're quiet and entertained and not disturbing anyone else.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, I mean, you know, not every restaurant, as I've said, is family friendly and that's okay. And, but I would say that most are you know, so if you wanna go out to eat, you have the. You know the pick of your restaurant. You don't have to pick one that you know I wouldn't take our kids to.

Speaker 2:

I find it funny that, like this is what is dividing the country right now.

Speaker 1:

Like, like it could be anything I know, like we've argued about, like the color of a dress, so I get it, but like man, I think that people don't want that privilege of going out to eat taken away or like, oh don't tell me, I can't do something. But I would say that if I, if you and I, spent money on a sitter to come watch our kids and then got dressed up, went out to a nice restaurant, and are paying for a nice meal.

Speaker 1:

I would be upset if I had to then listen to somebody else's kids scream the whole time. You know, if you and I went out to read Robin, I would expect that.

Speaker 2:

But if we?

Speaker 1:

went out to a fancy, expensive restaurant. That is not the atmosphere that I'd wanna be in. I love my children, but I'm going out on a date night to spend with you, away from the kids, and that's what I expect. Yes.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, I just it's just so interesting to me that this was causing such an uproar, but also not, you know, not surprising at all. But on that same note, I remember you and I, when we were getting ready to have Jace I feel like we ate out a lot more than we normally did because we're like we're not gonna get to do this anymore. We had every intention of like staying home because we didn't want to deal with the screaming baby at the table, and I mean, Jace was just such a happy baby I don't think he, like he, barely ever cried. They were like, okay, we're gonna take him to the restaurant with us yeah, he spoiled us.

Speaker 2:

He like at restaurants and everything else. He would just sit there happy as could be.

Speaker 1:

And everybody noted on it. Every server we had is like, oh my gosh, he's the best. But I do think that when you go out to a restaurant, especially with multiple kids or at like that two year, one year age, you do expect them to have some type of meltdown or something.

Speaker 2:

Especially like going with other families, so there were multiple children in the same age. As soon as, like, you get that like, oh, I'm here with friends or whatever, it's almost impossible for a toddler not to be loud.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, especially, you might not have the angry screaming, but you'll have the excited happy screaming. You know that the group gets together. I mean, they're kids and it's expected, right, and that's why you choose a family restaurant. But I do think that there is probably a way to handle that, regardless of what restaurant you're at. Right, if your child goes into meltdown mode I know that you and I were we always tried to be pretty good about taking them outside to cool down.

Speaker 2:

That was our go-to. It was like just give them to me and walking out to the car or whatever and letting them, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because not only are we not gonna enjoy our meal with the kids screaming at the table, but also everybody else around us. And it's more so just cause, like I don't want everyone else to hate us yeah, Cause our kids hate me Well it's just funny too because, like as a parent, that situation comes up in other instances.

Speaker 2:

Where it's like this is happening, you need to deal with it, like if we're at the grocery store and one of the kids has a meltdown, like we're shopping, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like it is what it is.

Speaker 2:

But like time and place, you know Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. Yeah, it's very different when you're sitting down to like enjoy a meal, but when our kids got to the age of being able to use a tablet, we 100% took advantage of that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we went out and got them special kids tablets for this Like it was we went all in.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we do enjoy eating out and it just makes it easier when they have something to occupy themselves and the coloring page at the table is just not quite doing it. I did put together quite a few restaurant kits, but those we just we had pieces all over the table, Are they? Jase would lose a car under the table like, crawl around, try and get it. And the tablet is just so much easier.

Speaker 2:

Restaurant kit, meaning like a little like Play-to-Play kit type thing for the kids, correct so that it was like a play box that we could just easily put on the table and they had something to play with.

Speaker 1:

Yep, it was like a little thing that I kept in the diaper bag that had different things for the kids. Current interests. Yeah. And I had quite a few things that they could rotate through, but then it was like every five minutes they're asking for something different and I know it's almost like they get used to the tablet and being able to switch from game to game to game to now.

Speaker 2:

Anything we give them they're like this is boring.

Speaker 1:

Now, I mean that was that was reversed though we had the restaurant kit before the tablet. Yeah. I think that's just kids. They're so young, they have zero attention span as it is, but I remember before we had kids how judgy I would be. I'm like we will never do that. I'm not gonna have my kids sitting at the table just on their tablet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean until you're in it. Now I'm all about it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's what I'm saying Now that I have kids. I mean, there's plenty of things.

Speaker 2:

I think that happens to all parents. Before you're a parent, you're like oh, I'm never gonna do this and then all of a sudden, like you, just have to.

Speaker 1:

Yep, and there I'm not. You know, there are still some parents that are better than us, that still don't give their kids a tablet than no. This seemed all the time Good for you, yeah.

Speaker 2:

All the time man.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I'm okay not being that parent.

Speaker 2:

We had a situation the other day with a neighbor just was like so caring towards his child, and all of us were like hmm, His daughter.

Speaker 1:

His daughter got her little finger smashed and they were just like he was over there and he was just like the words he's like oh, no, honey.

Speaker 2:

I'm your friend. It was so considerate, so sweet, made her feel so good.

Speaker 1:

And me and our other neighbors sitting there and I'm just like man, I feel like such a terrible mom, right now. I'd have been like you're fine, get up. Yeah, why is your finger under there?

Speaker 2:

So then I felt bad.

Speaker 1:

Like. Thanks for making all of us all feel like crap parents.

Speaker 2:

We know who number one is now. Rightfully so, rightfully so, yes.

Speaker 1:

And you know what? She's the sweetest little girl.

Speaker 2:

Because of that. Yeah, exactly. Now we know what we're doing wrong.

Speaker 1:

But anyway, I feel like back to the tablets. I feel like I'm totally okay with it. It's just something that I've expected and you know, you and I we have a pretty strict rule about you and I not having our phones out at the table, making sure that we're in conversation with each other, and we use that time because the kids, when they are on the tablets, they're sitting next to us, they're quiet and we can actually enjoy our meal and have a conversation together, and I'm okay with that. It's like you know, we make one sacrifice over here in order to grow our relationship in another way, even with their kids, with us. But I do feel like we have every intention of, once they get to an age where they can engage in a conversation with us. You know that we won't allow them to just, you know, have their tablet with them forever.

Speaker 2:

I've seen those videos of, like a grandparent who takes out their grandchild and they're sitting at the table and the grandchild just has a tablet up, like not Talking to their grandparent or anything else, and I don't want that for our kids. Yeah, I don't want that either. So I don't know where that line is. I think maybe as soon as we're able to have a conversation. Besides, I don't know, the dog is red or whatever.

Speaker 1:

You know, yeah, but it's funny like you've seen those videos of the kid who's like mom and when and you do, and you like they're just trying so hard to start a sentence, yeah, and all it is is the beginning of sentence over and over again. That's kind of where our kids are at right now.

Speaker 2:

I know, but we have to work with them to get through it because, like, if we don't, it's just gonna be that way forever.

Speaker 1:

And we do, we talk to them all the time we try.

Speaker 2:

Oh, they're already little teenagers.

Speaker 1:

My point is is that I've heard people say like, oh, you're creating these habits now, and that is true, but we still have every intention of you know. Okay, this is just not how this is anymore.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna move on, fingers crossed that if we can take away a passi, we can break a tablet, it's fine. That's true, that is true, there's lots of habits that they grow out of.

Speaker 1:

I like very. All right then yeah see, so we're doing it.

Speaker 2:

We got at least six years where we have to cross.

Speaker 1:

But you know, I also do. You know, just since we're talking about how bad parents we are, I let them, when I have to bring them with me to Costco in the grocery store, I always do both of those together. And I do let them bring them their tablet sometimes, because when they're sitting in that cart together they're like so close to each other instant fights instant fights, yeah, or just like you know, like every 10 seconds.

Speaker 1:

Mom, let me get this sample, let me you know. Let's look over here, let's look at the toys, and it's like I, we, I need to get my shopping done and we got stuff to do, like I can't be breaking up If I I actually did go to Costco without them For like the first time when they went back to school, remember, and I texted you and I was like I was in and out of Costco at 15 it was like the best day of your life.

Speaker 1:

I couldn't believe it. Um, but we were walking out of Costco one day and the kids had their tablets and the lady was so rude. She's like oh, aren't those nice? She's like I don't know if you remember, but when I was young I did not have a tablet, and neither did my kids. They just had to endure the grocery store. I'm like, well, good for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, hope the trip back was nice in your wagon with your horse and carriage.

Speaker 1:

I was like man, thanks for sharing your opinion. That I didn't ask for, but so yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2:

I draw my happy face and let me leave.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so there is still the judgment, is my point there? But you know, at the, at the grocery store or at the table, I would rather just have you know some peace and quiet for a minute and just get things done, then deal with all the fighting, because then nobody has fun.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree so, moving on, and since we're on a little bit of a, we've gotten ourselves into this restaurant etiquette kit kick. Restaurant etiquette, kick. Say that five times fast. So I want to talk about this really quick, because you know that this bothers me and it has Nothing to do with being cheap and everything to do with the principle of it. Why are tips not only required now, like before. It used to be like, hey, somebody does something, nice tip. Not only is it required now, like for everything, but also it used to be a standard 10%, and now the standard is basically 20%. If you give less than 20% tip, you're cheap.

Speaker 1:

Yeah but not only that, but it's required for, like everything, we went to self serve frozen yogurt and the thing pops up and asked me if I want to tip. Yeah like what am I tipping for? Yep. I just served myself. Do I get a refund? What is happening?

Speaker 2:

This is a common problem that's going on in our culture right now and I think people are realizing this game. I mean, it's everywhere. Like you see videos of, like the self-checkout machines at Walmart asking for a tip. Now, like, so you're tipping a machine like, and I mean I have some thoughts on it in my own conspiracy theories, which actually sound like they're pretty true.

Speaker 1:

But Well, now you have to share them.

Speaker 2:

I mean originally, from what I heard, tipping was put in place, so you're kind of paying the restaurant employees, or whoever, higher wages without the company having to pay for it. So it's a way of like keeping costs of goods lower by putting the pressure on you, the customer, to pay the employee's salary.

Speaker 1:

And it truly is pressure. Yeah, cuz I have. You know, there's plenty of times where I'm asked to tip because the machine automatically does it.

Speaker 2:

Now that if you aren't, paying attention, it automatically pops up like already marked for 20% or something like that. So like the yogurt place, I think. When it asks you like, the 20% is already highlighted. So if you aren't really paying attention and just trying to get out of there because your kids are screaming because they just ate a Bunch of frozen yogurt, like you have to pay attention.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I feel like, especially in places where I don't actually have my food in hand yet. Mm-hmm even though they're not doing much like going behind and picking up, I feel like I have to do it or else I'm gonna end up with spit in my taliation, yeah, yeah. Because you know that's happening these days now.

Speaker 1:

So I, but it's not even that. It's like with everything you know, we played an arm and a leg for our bounce house for the kids, and then we go to pay and they want to tip. I'm just like Okay, I mean, yeah, you did set it up. But it's also like that's what that's the job.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, like you're. It's not like you're standing here. It'd be different if you know. The guy who set it up then stood there and Manned it the whole time and made sure that everybody was safe and that the the water from the grass was wiped down. Like you're doing a service, then.

Speaker 2:

I still wouldn't tip. I was thinking about it as you're talking about now.

Speaker 1:

But even like when we take the kids to Lost Island oh, we're going in there, we're paying our fee to go play on the on the playground. Yeah and then they want us to tip. Yeah, I'm like. I'm having to round up my kids and break up, like what is happening. Everything is requiring a tip and it just used to be something that you tipped and when you you know, I think for a restaurant, it was always something that you automatically did at least 10%.

Speaker 2:

That I can remember.

Speaker 1:

But now it's like you have to tip. Even if you get bad service, you can't not tip, and but it used to be like if you, someone, went out of their way and gave you exceptional service and they went above and beyond and you're like, wow, that was a great experience. I really enjoyed myself. You were so kind to my kids or you know whatever, and yeah, I want to tip you to let you know how much I appreciate you, how great of a job that you did. And.

Speaker 1:

I was just like ugh, you know I've got money to throw away, so let me just throw you like who. What is that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's exactly what it is. It's just the cost of living and getting higher and in order to help make jobs appealing to the employees because they can't raise their wages is we'll add a tip and see if you can get extra income that way.

Speaker 1:

I guess, yeah, I don't know. I feel like you know, like I said, even if we have terrible service at a restaurant, you won't not tip, you just bump it down to 10%.

Speaker 2:

I do yeah.

Speaker 1:

And again it comes down to the principle of it. For me, I'm just like this person was so rude.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, but also nowadays you also have like, if you leave a bad tip, you're gonna end up on TikTok or Instagram or something with photos of it, like oh, look at this cheapskate. Like they didn't even tip me this much. Like there's this whole new world out there.

Speaker 1:

Then I'll respond and let them know why. Yeah, so, to bring this all full circle, we got off on this tangent. I feel like people or restaurants require this or charge this surcharge because of all the things that we've already discussed, but you have people who just feel that they're they deserve these things, or they deserve to just treat things however they like, a restaurant however they want, and so, even with all of that, you also have people who, still with what we talked about with tipping, feel like that they don't need to leave a tip or-.

Speaker 2:

It's both worlds.

Speaker 1:

It is right so it's like I'm gonna act however I want I deserve to act this way, but also like you weren't as good to me as I wanted you to be, so I'm not gonna leave you a tip or whatever, and so that's why you have. I mean, it's been a thing for a long time where you have a really large party and they automatically add-.

Speaker 2:

The gratuity to it?

Speaker 1:

Yes, so this just seems like another add-on to that, because obviously restaurants are seeing that this is a problem and they're taking care of their employees on the front end of things. Yeah. So, and again I feel like, because it was listed at the top of the menu, they had every opportunity to walk away if that was something that they weren't comfortable with.

Speaker 2:

I think it's smart. I have no problem with it at all.

Speaker 1:

Yeah me either.

Speaker 2:

This is also if you're upset about it, like, just add it to the list of things of stop going out, like that's another thing we talk about. Like, as we get older, it's like the service is getting worse, the food quality is getting worse. Maybe you just shouldn't go out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I feel like sometimes it's nice to just go out, though.

Speaker 2:

It is. It's a lot easier, especially not having to deal with clean up, and it makes like for a nice outing or a nice day. I totally understand why people do it. It's just like everything else. It seems like it's getting harder and harder to justify it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean for me. Personally, I feel like I'll take the crappy food and the crappy service if it means I don't have to cook and clean.

Speaker 2:

I was trying to give you an out.

Speaker 1:

Like you could have just said like, oh, I agree, I'm okay with that, I'm okay with admitting that, because at the end of the day, it's the last thing they wanna do, but all right. Well, that just ended up being a giant rant and discussion on restaurant etiquette, but I think it was all very interesting. If you guys have any experiences where you ran into anything like this, were you at a restaurant? Or have any wild stories about how people around you acted at a restaurant, we love the drama.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or anything that was hidden in the menu that you didn't know you were getting charged for secretly until at the end.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we wanna hear about it so let us know, send us an email at lifeunmasteredpodcast, at gmailcom, or you can always reach out over on Instagram at lifeunmasteredpodcast. But until next week, bye. Bye, bye, hold your breath.

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