The Other Side of Fear
The most important life hack you'll need: A Holistic Guide to Get You Unstuck.
Self improvement topics covering mental health, trauma, limiting beliefs, mindset, spirituality, energy healing, mindfulness, and purpose.
The Other Side of Fear explores thought provoking stories about the types of fears that are triggered by our individual insecurities, conditioning and past traumas. We examine the role of societal conventions and how they function as a strong determinant, in how we often choose to address our most personal struggles.
Our guests discuss how they navigate through various challenges, while taking ownership of their true desires. Giving you a gentle push, to live in a way that honors your authenticity. What does it mean to lean into fear? How can we recreate our stories and embrace the unknown? What does the other side of fear look like for you?
This is a reminder that, your fears are as big and as scary as you allow them to be. Your purpose is greater than the fear that hinders you.
The Other Side of Fear
What If Your Reality is Not the ONLY Reality...| with June Edward
Key Takeaways:
- When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. Things come to you, when they are supposed to.
- We are all here, incarnated, to learn something. The only choice we have is how long we choose to delay learning that lesson.
- Nothing happens by accident and nothing is being done to you. But everything is being done for you. The Universe steps in on your behalf, even if, it doesn’t look pretty.
Have you ever had an experience that reshaped your reality? Psychic medium June Edward joins us to speak on her near-death encounter that catapulted her from a skeptic into a spiritual conduit. Her vivid journey to the fifth dimension not only awakened her psychic abilities but also left her with a profound knowledge and an ocean of love that now fuels her mission to guide others. Our conversation uncovers the intricate web of relationships and life lessons, where karmic ties and twin flames serve as both sources of comfort and catalysts for personal growth. We discuss the significance of life's quintessential lessons in self-worth, trust, and communication, and the universe's subtle nudges that keep us aligned with our soul's purpose.
Her insights challenge conventional religious and spiritual conditioning, advocating for a journey of questioning and self-discovery. We also explore how the universe communicates with us through signs and symbols, offering guidance and affirmation for those attentive to its messages. This conversation may just lead you to discover deeper truths within yourself.
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I had a conversation with psychic medium June Edward, and she offered some insight on a lot of spiritual ideas or concepts that some of you may have already encountered in your personal lives. I'll keep this intro short, but I do hope that you take from this conversation whatever resonates with you and explore it with a curiosity, rather than limit yourself or your thoughts to the reality you're already accustomed to. What I'd like to start with is I'd like to ask you about your near-death experience that you had at the age of 27. And you said that you came back by choice. Can we talk about that a little bit and how that has been important for your journey?
Speaker 2:Sure, you know, before I died I never called it a near-death experience. I'd never even heard the term because I knew that I died. And years later, researching things, I find that the scientists came up with that term because they can't quantify it, and once they can, they'll change the term again. But before I died I was one of these people that you know. I was exposed to a lot of different religions growing up, very dysfunctional family, and I thought it was just ridiculous. My you know, my boyfriend's mother would have statue of Mother Mary in the bathtub, in the yard and on the car and the rosary everywhere. And very religious, very religious people and I. I was very spiritual growing up and I also I was the type of person that if I couldn't see it, feel it or touch it, it must not be real Right, which we all breathe air and that's you know. You can't touch it Right, and we have microwaves cooking our food. Something's working there, right.
Speaker 2:So I had injured my back when I was 22, right after I got married and I found out I was pregnant. Right after that, and after I had my first son, I was told that I needed back surgery and I just knew that if I did it. I was going to die and I put it off as long as I could. I put it off five years and it got to the point that if I wanted to have any more children, I was told I had to have the back surgery because my disc was just going to blow up and they'd be picking out the pieces in my back. Listen, I really think I'm going to die. You know, these are my wishes. Oh yeah, just afraid, blah, blah, blah. I'm like I'm telling you, I know that this is going to happen. It was a knowing. That's your soul. And, sure enough, the night before the surgery I had an MRI done with a contrast dye and I told them that I thought I was allergic to it because I'd had it once before and had a really bad reaction, and they just put it off. They're like, oh, it's normal, everybody has that reaction. I'm like, okay, what do I know? I'm 27, you're the doctor, right.
Speaker 2:And as soon as they injected me, I left my body immediately. It wasn't everybody's experience, I find, is just a little bit different. I didn't go into a tunnel, I immediately was gone and into the fifth dimension, which is the lowest level of heaven, and it is all just a lot of bright white light. It's amazing. I've also learned that less than 10% of the people that have an NDE get to the level that I got to. So I did have a full life review.
Speaker 2:It's like sitting in the front row of an IMAX theater watching the movie, and they don't show you everything. They show you the highlights of your life. They show you the people that you loved, the people that helped you, the experiences that you had that brought you a lot of joy. And then I heard someone behind me tell me that it's not really my time. I can stay if I want to, or I could go back. It was my choice.
Speaker 2:So what I've learned are the two things that we take with us when we go is knowledge and feelings, and I used to say love, but you know I'm a medium and I bring a lot of souls through from the other side and a lot of them are still living in fear and regret and sadness. So it's all of your feelings that you take with you. But for me on the other side, I was just full of love, just unbelievable love. That's what I was feeling over there. It was just incredible and I would have stayed if it wasn't for my children.
Speaker 2:You know, I remembered I had two children that were very young and most of the reason that I came here in this lifetime was to be here for them. And as soon as I decided that, I was back in my body instantly. And while I was there, I could see everything that was happening to my body. I could see everything that was happening in the whole hospital. I could hear the conversations going on in the hallway, all of that, but I was really trying to stay focused on my life review that I was getting to see. So, yeah, and I couldn't talk about it for a long time because it was just such an intense experience I would just start bawling my eyes out, you know, with all the feelings that would rush back. Yeah, it was pretty amazing.
Speaker 1:Wow, that is tremendous.
Speaker 2:And you would think, you would think that after something like that, that all my abilities would just open up and I'd be on my path in life right? And it doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way. So what happened?
Speaker 1:Let's talk about your psychic abilities. Tell me more about your abilities and how that came through for you and how you've been able to assist people with that.
Speaker 2:So I was born with a lot of psychic ability and mediumship ability, apparently. But as a child, you don't know, you assume everybody is doing the same thing and seeing the same thing. And my youngest memory was about the age of three. I heard someone calling my name. Don't know, you know. You assume everybody is doing the same thing and seeing the same thing. And my youngest memory was about the age of three. I heard someone calling my name, got out of bed, thought it was my parents and they were fast asleep. And when I went back into my room and lied down, I started noticing faces in my room and it scared the heck out of me. I pulled the sheets up over my face and, you know, when the sun started to come up, I saw the shadows literally getting face to face with me under the covers. It was very scary, so I tried to block it the best I could.
Speaker 2:Most of my life I remember when I was 10, my parents my dad kidnapped actually the youngest five of us, and my job was to do the dishes every night. So I was doing the dishes and there was this woman who would stand there and keep me company every night, about the age of 45, and I was appreciative because it's a boring job. So one day I asked my older brother who she was. I assumed everybody saw her and he laughed and told me she was the woman that used to live there, that her husband murdered her in the house. So it scared me so much she had to feel it because we're just energy, and she never came back again.
Speaker 2:So you know, as I got older I would tell kids in school what was going to happen before it happened and you get labeled a freak, so you stop doing that. And then I was just a nervous wreck. You know, I had nervous tics and I would stutter and bite my nails, all kinds of stuff. I was just a mess and as much as I tried to block it, if someone died that either I knew or somebody in the family knew, they would come to me immediately and I'd be telling everybody the next day this person died and they're like no, they didn't know. I'm like I'm telling you and they would find out. Sure enough, they did die, didn't know that I'm like I'm telling you and they would find out.
Speaker 2:Sure enough, they did die. So even after I died, when I came back, I was still afraid of my abilities, and you cannot do what I do if you have. Fear doesn't work that way. But I was drawn to it. So my ex husband and I would go on haunted vacations. We stayed on the Queen Mary twice, we went to Alcatraz, we went to the wally house. We'd stay in you know haunted little bed and breakfasts, all kinds of things, and I'm like trying to catch you know proof right like everybody else, yeah, um.
Speaker 2:And then about 10 years ago I was having a lot of trouble in business. I was, um, going through a second divorce and I went to see a Reiki practitioner to have some energy work done and she recommended that I try to meditate to relax. And I'm like I can't meditate. I'm running five businesses, I'm going through a divorce, I'm taking care of my mother. I'm like there's no way. As soon as I tried it, it was like they kicked the door into the other side. She's ready. And then I just couldn't turn it off again. It was like it was worse. It came through a thousand times more than when I was.
Speaker 2:When I was a kid, yeah, I was working as a medical esthetician in my own business and the first woman that came in I'm like did your aunt recently die? And she's like, yeah, how'd you know? I'm like did your aunt recently die? And she's like, yeah, how'd you know? I'm like I have no idea how. I know I said something really weird is happening. I'm like did you clean her house out? She goes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Last weekend I'm like, oh, did you find one of those sock puppets from the 50s that looks like a monkey? She goes yeah, we found one in the attic. I'm like, oh my God, this is just crazy. And it just continued and got stronger and stronger. And then I'm seeing 3d ghosts walking into the room with people. I'm like, oh my god, I thought, I thought I was going to go nuts. You know but the old adage when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. And gratefully, I found two wonderful teachers to help me control my abilities, learn how to turn it off and turn it on and who I'm talking to on the other. Learn how to turn it off and turn it on and who I'm talking to on the other side and how to protect myself.
Speaker 1:And then my education just kind of took over from the other side, from there. Amazing, I love that. And how have you been able to assist people with your skills?
Speaker 2:Many, many ways I've worked on missing person cases and murder cases. I've been able to give people closure. One of the readings that I did was what made me really know that I'm on my right path, no matter what anybody has to say about me. She was in her 80s and wanted me to bring through her son that she thought he had committed suicide, but he didn't. It was an accident through her son that she thought he had committed suicide, but he didn't. It was an accident. And when I finally brought him through and the two of them were able to talk, she had thought she caused him to commit suicide because she was really tough on him and it had been almost 40 years and you could see how it took its toll on her life, how different her life would have been if she hadn't been living in guilt. And I asked her why she didn't come see somebody like me years ago and she told me she'd gone to see every psychic medium she could find. For the last 40 years no one's been able to bring him through but me. At that moment I knew I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing, because if I could have helped her 40 years ago, her life would have been so much different. So there's many ways I help people.
Speaker 2:A lot of people are just confused with what's going on in their life right now, why certain things are happening. I had a woman that had been married five times and every one of her husbands died on her and she was afraid to get married again, even though she'd met somebody amazing. And I was able to go back into her Akashic Records, which is her book of life. And I was able to go back into her Akashic records, which is her book of life, and find out how that's. You know, because we bring through karmically from lifetime to lifetime certain things. Why was this happening?
Speaker 2:And we found out that every one of her husbands in this lifetime had been married to her in a different past lifetime and that she never appreciated any of them, and she acknowledged it. Even in this lifetime she didn't appreciate any of them and she acknowledged it. Even in this lifetime she didn't appreciate any of them. She thought she was entitled and you know that's not the case with the last one. She realized how lonely she was and how much she. You know she should have taken care of them and treated them differently. And she did end up marrying the sixth one, and he never has not died yet. It's been quite a while. That's good, that's really good.
Speaker 2:There's lots of different ways that I can help people with different things in their life.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's amazing. That is so amazing, that is so admirable. I love it. I love stories like that. So what you're talking about right now? You're talking about love and karma, the all sphere in love and karma. That is your most recent book that you've written right, it is. What is the message that you want to impart with this book?
Speaker 2:So the book is a result of the relationship mastery program that I created about four or five years ago and that helps people learn how to change their energy, get in touch with their soul, raise their vibration which is the law of attraction and balance their energy and bring in everything they're supposed to actually have in this lifetime. So what I learned from doing that program is that everybody that went through it had the same five soul lessons that they needed to work on for their soul to advance. So all's fair in love, and karma is the five lessons that everyone is here to learn on top of trying to enjoy our life here and, you know, do your everyday avatar things that we do. But there's five lessons that we're all here to learn and until you learn them, you're just going to keep repeating the same things over and over. People ask why do I keep, you know, picking the same, making the same choices with the same type of partner and it never works out. Well, you haven't learned the lesson clearly and karmically. Karma is something that you create when you do something to someone else and you don't have any regret and you don't make any amends. So now, in the next lifetime, you owe that person something and vice versa. So when you choose this life, you plan this life. You come through here it's to help someone else, for them to help you and to learn your lessons. So you know the universe wants you to think you have choice, right. But really the only choice that we have here is to delay the lesson. If we want, we can be stubborn and we can delay it from lifetime to lifetime if we want to. You know the universe will offer you door one, two and three. You take door one, you go through it, you get married, you have a couple of kids, you get divorced. Where are you? In front of door one, two and three again. Most people are going to take door one again. They're going to get married, have a couple of kids and get divorced again. Well, if they learn their lesson, they're not taking door one again. They're going to take door two or door three and they still may get married and have more children, but it's not going to end in divorce the way the other two did, because they learned the lesson that they were supposed to be learning.
Speaker 2:So there are three different types of relationships. There is the karmic relationship, where someone is strictly here to teach you something or you teach them, and we're in relationship with everyone. So it could be a boss, it could be a mother, it could be a brother, it could be a dog a dog, okay. But a karmic relationship once one or the you know first of all, karmic relationships never feel quite right, okay. They always feel like there's something missing or that you're looking for the red flags, you're waiting for the other shoe to drop. And when one or the other person learns the lesson in the karmic relationship, it ends immediately, always so. If you've bothic relationship, it ends immediately, always so. If you've both learned your lesson, it ends amicably. If only one or the other person learned their lesson, it ends and it's not going to be amicable.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Then you have the soulmate relationship. It's also there to either learn or teach, but it's also there to afford you some love and some comfort at the same time. And a soulmate relationship can last a very long time after you've learned your lesson. It really depends on what you've written into your life plan, okay. And then you have the twin flame relationship, which is extremely rare. There's a lot of misinformation going around the internet. Everybody does not have one. It is not the stuff of the notebook, okay.
Speaker 2:A twin flame is literally one soul that split into two bodies on the other side, reincarnated as two separate people. They meet at a predetermined time in this lifetime. It is always extremely sexual, very intense. You have an amazing psychic connection together, and it only lasts for a few weeks, or at the most, a few months, and it ends. And when it ends, it's like you're ghosted. You don't see each other anymore.
Speaker 2:Now, if both of you have learned the lessons that you're here to learn and you've gotten on the path that you're supposed to be on because twin flames are here for a higher calling. They're here to really help humanity If you've both been able to do that, you'll have an opportunity to get back together again in this lifetime? Most don't. Otherwise, you'll just have to wait until you get on the other side again. So the five lessons that we're here to learn the first one is self-worth, and self-worth is not your value. Value is what someone else is placing on you. Self-worth is the accumulation of everything to understand that you are the only one of you in this whole world. How special are you that the universe felt they needed you here? Ok, and it's understanding that it's not selfish or narcissistic to put yourself first. It's where everything else comes from. If you can't take care of yourself and put yourself first, you're not going to be here to take care of anybody else, are you? Yeah?
Speaker 2:it's that simple and you know no one else can has the power of you to make you anything.
Speaker 2:No one can make you happy, make you sad. No one has that power. That's all on you. So it's up to you to make yourself happy and raise your vibration and when you do that you'll draw other happy people in and your happiness just ping pongs back and forth. Then you have trust and communication. You have to trust, first of all, that there is a higher power and there is a plan. Nothing happens by accident and nothing is ever being done to you. Everything is always being done to you, everything is always being done for you. And if you can't do what needs to be done to keep yourself on your life path that you planned here, the universe will step in and make it happen. It's that simple. You may not like it, you know. If you're supposed to take that job in Seattle and you're hemming and hawing, you're afraid to go, well, the universe might just burn your building down. So you have no choice to go or get you fired. So you don't have a job and there's no sense not to go right. The universe will step in and you have to learn how to communicate your wants and your needs to other people, whether it's your loved ones, your partner, your employer, doesn't matter. You have, you know, people don't know by osmosis. You have to be able to communicate and tell them what you want, and sex is just another form of communication. If you can't communicate outside the bedroom, you're never going to be able to trust and communicate inside the bedroom. Sure, then you have unconditional love, and unconditional love is not playing the martyr and saying, oh, I have to stay in this abusive relationship because I have unconditional love. That's not what unconditional love is. And if you said that, that's when the lesson of self-worth is going to start kicking in on you, because all these lessons keep reinforcing each other. It's saying, listen, I love you, I care about you, we had a good run, but it's not working and it's time for us to both go our separate ways. That's simple. It's not bad mouthing and when you weigh out the door, it's truly wishing the best for the other person, remembering the good times and the lesson you learned and why you were there and moving on.
Speaker 2:Suppose you had a child that you loved very much and they did something horrific like murdering a neighbor in a fit of rage and go to prison for the rest of their life. You don't like what the child did, but hopefully you're going to love the child still, right? That's an extreme case of unconditional love. Then you have money and balance. Money is energy. That's why it's called currency and it's what we use in this 3D life here to show whether or not your life is in balance. Everything in the universe has to stay in balance. You have the yin and the yang, you have good and evil, you have left and right, up and down, night and dark. So it's the same thing with the money.
Speaker 2:It has to be an even exchange when you do something. If you give something to somebody for free, 90% of the time they're not going to value it. It's that simple. When I started my program, I had given it to some service members at no charge because I didn't feel that they could afford it. Neither one of them did the program. It had no value. So it has to be an even exchange.
Speaker 2:You don't go into the grocery store and plop down a million dollars for a gallon of milk, right? It's got to be that even exchange. And then, if all you do is work all the time to keep earning money and you're working 80 hours a week, your life is totally out of balance again. Right, because you have no time for your friends, your family, for your own hobbies. And then again self worth kicks in, because you don't even have enough self worth to spend the fruits of your labor on yourself. You're just hoarding all your money. So it's there to teach you that balance lesson and actually the law of attraction. When it kicks in for people, they're unable to maintain it if they don't balance their energy, because for every high there's a low right.
Speaker 1:You get up there.
Speaker 2:Law of attraction kicks in. You can't balance it, you crash and you lose it all. And the last one is patience. And we live in a world right now of instant gratification. Everybody wants everything yesterday and it's not practical. Things come to you when they're supposed to come to you. How ridiculous would it be if every five-year-old little girl that wants to get married and have babies has the stork delivering them for her right. And then you have other people. Oh, my biological clock is ticking. I'm 30. I need to start. You don't know what you planned. You have to trust. That's the other lesson. Trust that you planned this life for the best for you. Maybe at 50, you're going to marry a widower and raise his kids. Who knows? You're not meant to know the whole plan. If you did, you wouldn't get out of bed in the morning. There wouldn't be any purpose, because you already know everything that's going to happen right, yeah, so much to learn.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, june, you just delivered so much information. I love it. Thinking about everything that you said, I remember you saying that you believe that nothing is random right. Everything happens for a purpose. So some people might even find that a bit challenging to grasp that idea, because when you've experienced so much suffering, it's just like you're like there's no way I planned this for myself.
Speaker 2:Suffering is perspective and no one can tell me otherwise because you know, I wrote my autobiography. For people that would be like, oh, you have no idea what I've been through. Really, try me. There's not much that I haven't been through in my life, quite honestly, and I truly believe that I was put through those challenges because I wouldn't be able to counsel and help other people if I hadn't walked a mile in their shoes, right, so you know it's. It's like saying that, oh, this poor little boy that's, um he, all he does is play in the mud and they live in a straw house. You come from Jamaica, you know how poor it is there. I've been to Jamaica. Okay, but it's perspective. Most of those people don't know any differently.
Speaker 2:They've never lived in a huge big house with all this you know, four TVs and two cars, and so they don't realize they're missing anything because they've never experienced that. Okay, so everything in life is perspective and you wrote this life. You've got nobody to blame but yourself if you don't like it. What you have to do is raise your vibration, understand how the universe works, understand why things are happening, and then you can look at things from a higher perspective and look back and say, oh, I understand why that happened now, because everything that's happened in your life has brought you to the next thing and the next thing and the next thing that brought you to where you are right now, and you are always right, where you're supposed to be. Everybody wants to have regrets. Oh, I should have could have what I know, because you would not have been able to do anything differently. No matter what you did, it was going to bring you to where you're supposed to be. That's how it actually works be.
Speaker 1:That's how it actually works. So from that, what can you what? What do people need?
Speaker 2:to know about energy. So we are all energetic beings, that's all we are. Everything in the universe is energy, even though you can't see it. That's all it is. We're not the suit that sits here. When you go to the other side and you leave this body behind, you and I are exactly the same, unless we're on different frequencies. Okay, we are just energy, that's what we are. But we have that God spark. That's what gives us that soul. So our soul is pure energy and if anyone's seen the movie avatar I know a few people haven't, but when that movie came out, I'm like, oh my God, this is exactly what it's like.
Speaker 2:So when you go to sleep at night, your energetic vibration actually rises and you go into the 4D dream state. We live in 3D here and the lowest level of heaven that I was in is 5D. So if somebody from the other side wants to talk to you, your vibration is higher when you're sleeping. They come down and they'll meet you in your dream state and you'll know it's a visit and not a dream, because it seems like it's real. You wake up immediately and you remember it all. That's a visit. So if you are meditating during the day to get out of your mind and getting in touch with your soul. They can reach you that way because now your energetic vibration is rising while you're awake during the day.
Speaker 2:Okay, and we all in this avatar body, we all have a brain in our head, right, but your brain is nothing more than a computer. It's there to process the information that you're given, but your brain has a very specific job. What's your brain's job? To protect you. How does it do that? It does it by creating fear. So most of us are making our decisions based on fear, and when you do that, it is a crapshoot. It works out 50% of the time, but you're questioning yourself 100% of the time. Everybody has had something happen in their life that they did, that they just they didn't think it through and they just knew this is what I'm supposed to do. That gut instinct, I know I'm supposed to do this. That is your soul.
Speaker 2:And when you listen to your soul and you do it because it's a knowing, it works out 100% of the time and you don't question it so when you meditate and get in touch with your soul, you start making your decisions from that knowing, not from your brain, from your from your knowing, from your soul. And it works out 100% of the time yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1:You're just you're hitting all the points, june. I love this. I love so much knowledge that you're sharing right now. I want to ask you because you just mentioned fear, which was pretty much the question I was just about to ask you what do you think is the purpose of fear? To protect you, Bottom line.
Speaker 2:That's why your brain creates fear to protect you bottom line. That's why your brain creates fear to protect your body. That's it, that's its sole purpose. So everybody thinks hate is the opposite of love. Right, it's not. Fear is the opposite of love. You cannot have fear and love at the same time. You can't. It doesn't work.
Speaker 1:How do we begin to? Because for me personally, I've suffered from the fear-based thinking and, you know, really have done some things, made some decisions that were just you know from where I'm sitting. It feels like a betrayal of myself, really self-sabotaging stuff, just like even getting in the wrong relationships with the wrong people. There's no such thing?
Speaker 2:There's no such thing. You planned it and they were lessons. So you have to ask yourself what was the lesson? What was the lesson? What was I avoiding? What was I supposed to learn? What were they supposed to teach me? What did I not want to listen to and not want to learn?
Speaker 2:Yeah which lesson? Self worth. You're going to keep repeating it until you learn self worth. You're going to keep picking the same guy every time till you learn the self worth. You have to love yourself first. You have to put yourself first. Everything comes from that. Have to put yourself first, everything comes from that. Yeah, definitely so it's really not self-sabotaging.
Speaker 1:You just chose to make this plan, that you were gonna be stubborn, that's all it feels like that, though right, it feels like it because it took me a long time to learn a lot of things.
Speaker 1:I was stubborn too it's hard because when you feel like things aren't going the way you'd like them to like. For me personally and I've spoken, I've touched on um some of the things that I've been through, you know I have also been through trauma as a child. I was sexually abused by a cousin, experienced trauma from just like parental upbringing things like that.
Speaker 1:Of course it does right. But when in the moment it doesn't feel good, and not when you're in that space of not knowing, it feels like suffering, it feels like your world is falling apart.
Speaker 2:Right, absolutely, it does. I mean, I was? How old was I? I was nine, I think, and it was my father, so yeah, it's like. And then you spend years with why, what did I do wrong you? Know, but you have to learn to overcome that and understand that again. If it hadn't happened, that wouldn't be who I am. If it didn't happen to me, I couldn't relate to you. Could I Exactly Look at that? It happens for a reason. It makes you who you are. I have more compassion.
Speaker 1:I understand.
Speaker 2:I understand To a point. I understand the why, the what, the where. I still I'm not fully grasping everything because I literally, you know he comes to talk to me and I just whatever lesson you needed to learn, whatever it was, I don't get it. I do get it to a point because it. I mean it's a. When you make this life plan on the other side it's extremely complicated. You write who the people are, you write the players. So clearly. I was a kid, I was a party to that and I wrote that into my life and I understand as difficult as it was Right. So I'm one of eight kids and my sisters I had some sisters that didn't survive it. They became more self-abusive because they couldn't get beyond it.
Speaker 2:They had no self-worth and they couldn't understand that that was something they had to start with, with self-worth, Because that's the first thing that gets taken away from you, I think when you're sexually abused is your self-worth. Yeah, you have, you know you have no self-worth after that.
Speaker 1:I can attest to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean that's the first thing. They were unable to get back for themselves at all, was self-worth, and they continued down that road with every man that ever came in their life. So again, they're lessons that we have to learn and we can choose to learn them or we can choose to delay them. Clearly, you know I made the choice on the other side that you know I wrote that out in at 27 and that's the other thing that I learned is that when people have very difficult lives, sometimes they'll write an out in that they could take and I could have taken that out at 27, um, and as much as people say I couldn't have my son with anybody else. His soul would have gone into another body at that point still learned the lesson that he needed to have. It just would have been with a different set of parents, that's all um.
Speaker 2:The only unacceptable out from this world is taking your own life. That's never an acceptable out. It's now you're not allowed to break that into your life plan, because now you've just messed up everybody's life that you're supposed to have come in contact with and affect, because we're not just here for ourselves. As much as we're here, you know, we come here for a little mini vacation because we don't have a body on the other side. We want to be able to smell and taste and have sex and all those wonderful things, but we're also here to learn those lessons and to help other people learn those lessons as well.
Speaker 2:You know, nobody's an island. We're all connected and we're all here to help each other. And people forget that. You know they go hide in the closet and you know it's F you. I'm not helping you. Who are you? Well, guess what, when you get to the other side, we're all just energy and we all we interact. You know. We interact as we do down here, um, and the whole goal is to just, you know, keep elevating your soul and your energy level so that you can keep plateauing when you get to the other side, because there are different levels in heaven, you know the more advanced your soul, the higher you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and you know, coming back to the point, that the brain is a computer, like which pretty much it is. This is why we're programmed to think and perceive things in a certain way, right.
Speaker 2:Well, that's television doing it for you, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the ideology is out there, brainwashing.
Speaker 2:You know, know, it's brainwashing, it's a computer, it's just give it.
Speaker 1:they're giving you the information they want you to have yeah, the brain literally is a computer and it really behaves like one.
Speaker 2:It does exactly what it's trained to do exactly so when you go to sleep at night and you're actually having dreams. A lot of those dreams are just things that you didn't process during the day, that your brain is processing, and then it's like a file cabinet. It sticks. All the old memories get stuck to the back because they're not needed right now.
Speaker 1:Just like it is a computer what it does yeah, but how can we, how can we work with that to learn how to deal with our fears and you get in touch with your soul.
Speaker 2:Your soul doesn't have fear unless you're really stuck here in a low vibration. There are ghosts that are stuck here in low vibration because they're in fear, but when you get in touch. So your soul is way too big for this body. Okay, some of your soul is in this body, some of it is over your body that people say they can see as an aura, and the majority of your soul is in this body. Some of it is over your body that people say they can see as an aura, and the majority of your soul is actually in the fifth dimension, the lowest level of heaven, and it orchestrates the timing of all the events that happen in your life.
Speaker 2:So, in order to get out of your brain, you meditate, get out of your head and connect with your soul. And when you do that, you're not just connecting with this part of your soul that's inside your body, you're connecting to that majority of your soul that's up in the higher dimension, up in the fifth dimension, and that has all the rest of the knowledge that your soul needs and has. And people will notice after they start meditating that their ears will start ringing out of nowhere. Well, that's a download from the other side. Literally, it's like they're uploading to your brain information and knowledge and all of a sudden, you'll have all this information and you'll know things that you didn't know before, because you're getting in touch with the knowledge of all of your lifetimes from the other side.
Speaker 1:How can we because I know like meditation, but you know, through meditating, how can we facilitate that connection to our soul? And you know, as you said, harness the power of your soul?
Speaker 2:you have to meditate, you have to get in touch with your souls. That's all there is to it. I mean it's so important. I put the directions to do it properly in all of my books. You have to ground yourself so that when you're pulling your soul back in that it's still not floating above you, so it's back in your body. When you're done. You have to be able to do it Until you start meditating and understand what the difference and what it feels like.
Speaker 2:I recommend my students meditate three times a day for 20 minutes, no longer, no shorter, because until you get proficient at it it's going to take you 18 or 19 minutes of meditating before you connect with your soul. And when you do, you'll know it, because all of a sudden you've got the highest high you ever had, because now you're connecting to the energy level on the other side, that high frequency. So think of the speed of light in quantum physics. Right, it's 300 million miles a second. And when my soul left my body and went into that light on the other side, that's how fast my soul was traveling, that's how the frequency of my soul. Then it came back into my body that fast. So my frequency is automatically much higher than most. But by meditation I'm connecting to the one up there. That's still going 300 million miles a second. So when you're connecting through meditation, you're connecting to that. That's the energetic frequency you're getting.
Speaker 1:I love that. Yeah, that is a very but you know, for people who meditate and are aware of these concepts it's a little bit easier to grasp. But I asked you because I wanted for you to like kind of flesh it out, so maybe people who are not used to the idea, these kind of concepts, so to start out.
Speaker 2:You mean so to start out. I would start out with a guided meditation for a couple of weeks, just so that you can get that feeling of what it feels like, that relaxed state to try to get out of your brain a little bit. But then you want to get rid of the guided meditation, because a guided meditation is still going to keep you in your head because you're listening to it. Okay, so then you just want to get into some type of soft music or go outside and lie on the ground and listen to nature, whatever it is that works for you, okay. And you want to stick to a music that's higher frequency.
Speaker 2:All the music on the radio is in the 400 range, which is meant to keep you down, keep your frequency low, keep you depressed. So you have to look for it literally, like on YouTube or something, and find a frequency that's over 528 megahertz and meditate to that, because that's a higher frequency. It will start to lift your energy level right then and there. And if you go more than 20 minutes, the problem is, you know you can start astral projecting your soul, and if you're not proficient at doing it, you again, you're not going to be grounded. You're going to be walking around like an AI head all day yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, jan. You know, just this conversation is just getting me thinking about a lot of things and talking about frequencies. I want to talk a little bit about that and what the different types of frequencies are and how they can affect you on this level, on this plane, on this plane, right? You know? We spoke about the ideologies that we're fed, how our minds are being programmed by. You know the things we're exposed to in this society. You just mentioned the music on the radio and how that can also affect your frequency. Can we get a little bit into that? And how all of this, how all of this, feeds into the fair you know here on the planet and what we choose to do about that, how we go about living our lives based on these fairs, these different fairs that we all have.
Speaker 2:So you have to remember again. Um, you have to remember again. This body is not who you are. You are the soul inside.
Speaker 2:For hundreds of thousands of years there's been a war that's playing out here on Earth between good and evil. What's the prize that the devil wants and God wants Both of them. Your soul is in this body and your vibration is automatically kept lower to telepathy, listening to your soul. This was all common stuff, just like in Japan they used to train. Every person in the family was taught jikken and reiki, which is energy work to heal someone. If you got sick, all your family members would come over with hands and they would heal you because the energy would come through them.
Speaker 2:So a lot of these techniques have been lost through the years because the people that are in power want to control the masses. So in order to do that, they had fear of the abilities of other people. So, for instance, the rulers years ago used to have an advisor who would be the Magi, and the Magi would tell them when to go to war, when to plant the crops, all those types of things. And when the rulers started to fear the Magi, because they had knowledge that they didn't, what did they do? They started killing them all off. You know, it's just like they made certain things illegal when they burned witches and don't want people communing with nature, all of those things. It's all built out of fear and control.
Speaker 2:So you know a lot of the spirits that I bring through. There's a lot of ghosts that are stuck here. I call them lower vibrational entities. They have the same vibration energetically as someone that's still alive. So I read energy, I feel energy and I see energy. So to me they are the same as you are. I can't tell the difference if they're dead or you know, or if they're alive, because the sense that energetic vibration is the same. Okay, once they've gone into the light, their energetic vibration is astronomically higher and they move very fast and they can come back and forth, but if they're stuck here in a low vibration, they can't move any faster than you and I either. So while you're in this body, your body itself is at that low of vibration just to stay on this earth.
Speaker 2:However, you can still tap into your soul, which is the higher vibration, to know what you're supposed to be doing. Everybody can look behind them, like I said, and see the breadcrumbs that brought you from the next thing and the next thing and the next thing to brought you where you are. But if you want to know where you're supposed to go and what decisions you're supposed to make and what path you're supposed to be on, if you want those answers, this is where you have to get in touch with your soul and get the information from there. It's not going to come from your head. You can sit here all day long, be spinning your wheels and figure out where am I supposed to meet my Prince Charming, what job am I supposed to do, what career do I want.
Speaker 2:But if you can tap into your soul, those things will automatically present themselves to you when you raise your vibration, because we're magnets. We're always attracting or repelling at any given time. So you're know you're bringing into your life what's on the same frequency as you right now. And if you want to change the things that you're bringing into your life, you have to raise your vibration so that you can bring different things into your life, things that are of higher vibration. And if you want to learn how to work with the angels on the other side or the guides, they're automatically at a higher vibration. So you need to raise your vibration so that you can bring everything into your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty, it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2:It is amazing. It's like you know until it happens to you. Our belief system is based on our knowledge of what people showed us and told us right.
Speaker 2:That's our belief system and until you experience something different, your belief system doesn't change. So, you know, until I went to heaven, died and came back, I didn't believe that. You know, saints were real, I didn't believe that angels were real. Well, they are, you know, I see them, I bring them through, I talk to them. They are real, they will. Their entire existence the angels is just to help us, but if you don't ask, they can't help, and that's their rule. You know there is a hierarchy on the other side, just like there is here. So in order to tap into that, you have to be able to tap into your soul.
Speaker 1:How can we learn to listen to our inner voice, though to be?
Speaker 2:able to tap into your soul. How can we learn to listen to our inner voice though? Through meditation. You know that gut feeling that is your soul. That knowing is your soul. You want to tap into it. You have to get in touch with your soul. Fastest way is through meditation. You know there's lots of things that can raise your vibration being happy, laughing, joy, love all those things raise your vibration.
Speaker 1:But in order to really tap into your soul, you know the only way you're really going to do that is through meditation. So when we talk about listening to our inner voice, connecting with our soul, learning how to be in touch with our intuition, you would say that meditation is the best way to go about learning how to do that, reconnecting back with ourselves.
Speaker 2:It is. It's the fastest way and it's really the only way that I know of. I mean I I meditate probably 10 times a day. Now I only do one or two 20 minute meditations, but you know I can connect instantaneously, so I'll go into a quick meditation within a couple of minutes. It's like anything else the more you do it, the better you get at it. Yeah right.
Speaker 2:It's like playing a piano. You get some people to sit down, they can just play chopsticks. You get other people sit down, want to apply themselves, they can learn a couple of songs. You get other people that really put everything into it, they can be a concert pianist. And then you have somebody like me. I sit down and you know I'm the child prodigy prodigy that plays Mozart. But everyone has mediumship and everyone has psychic abilities.
Speaker 1:It's a matter of you applying yourself to it, no one's going to do the work, but you yeah, I, I know and I'm asking because, you know, a lot of people are conditioned to believe, like, oh, this thing, it's bad. You know, like a lot of that religious conditioning that tells you you're not talking to angels, you're talking to something else, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, again, when they learn what energy is like, they can feel the difference. Everyone's walked into a room, right? They've walked into a wedding or a birthday party and felt that high energy, and then they've walked into a funeral and they felt that energy.
Speaker 2:But when you learn how to read energy, okay, then you can do that. I mean, all I can do is hope. Hope that I can open people's minds and have them question things. There's over 1700 accepted religions just in the United States. Okay, just because you were born and taught one of them, how do you know yours is the right one?
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:You know you want. How do you know who you're praying to when talking to? I can see them. I can feel them Can you, but it's difficult.
Speaker 1:It's a difficult concept for some people to understand, especially when they haven't really looked outside of that box. Um, you know the religion they're raised in, or just the conditioning that they received growing up. For some it's just so hard to step outside of that. And then you have a lot of people like look at the world. Like we have these religious wars. That makes no sense, right? Because so?
Speaker 2:there you go. What religion is right? When a religion is? Saying that you have. No, you know that you have no self-worth, and they they'll murder and kill for it. What religion is that right? Yeah, but it's like anything else. If you want to learn a second language, well, you got to step out of the box, don't you? We have to do the work to learn it.
Speaker 2:If you want to learn how to get in touch with your soul, you have to step out of the box and you have to give it a try If you want to learn anything in your life. You know, sometimes you have to just put your preconceived notions aside and say, ok, well, maybe this is or this is that. Let me research it myself.
Speaker 1:It's easier said than done, though. If it was that easy, we wouldn't have the things happening today that are happening today, right? No one said it was going to be easy.
Speaker 2:Okay, no one said it was going to be easy. Nothing should be easy, because that's not how the universe works.
Speaker 2:If you want the reward, you do the work. That's how the universe works. You do the work, you get the reward. It's that simple. If you want the reward, you do the work. No one's going to hand you anything in life Nobody. Yeah, it's your job, it's your responsibility. If you want to stay in your house with your door closed and you know, pray every day, that they're going to bring you the man of the dreams, but you don't go outside your door, I can guarantee you they're not going to deliver you the UPS guy or the mailman. There is self-responsibility. That's built into everything. If that's what you want, then you have to get out that door and put yourself into situations that the universe can deliver to you Self-responsibility.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that you mentioned that, because a thing that we have spoken about a lot on the podcast as well is just sitting in that victim mentality and, while we can acknowledge that it's painful when we've been wronged by others and, you know, for whatever reason, we're here on this dimension and even though this thing, we've planned these things, prearranged these things to happen, but we're here to experience the emotion of it all. Right, and you know, sitting in that emotion and completely feeling it and feeling the effects of how someone has harmed you, right, it's so no one can do anything.
Speaker 2:No one can do anything to you unless you allow it. That's the reality. You get robbed, you get thrown down, you get beaten OK, all right. That wasn't a really nice thing to do to me. I'm really hurting, and now I'm going to spend a lot of money. I'm going to be nice thing to do to me. I'm really hurting, and now I'm going to spend a lot of money. I'm going to be in the hospital for a while. What's my lesson? Or what's his lesson? What's the deal here? Okay, oh, okay, he's going to go to jail. We're going to catch him. He's going to go to jail. What's going to happen with me? Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Let me look back five years, five years later. Let me think what happened. Oh gee, I ended up in the hospital. I couldn't work for a while, met this really great guy who was very kind to me and was able to help me and brought me things all the time. I decided that you know I was working too hard. I didn't have balance in my life. I decided to change my life. All these things happened because that event happened.
Speaker 2:So this is what you have to do. You can sit here and play the poor me all day long in the low vibration. Okay, that's low vibration, negative thinking. And the more you stay in that, the more you bring it upon you, because the universe doesn't have any idea about negativity.
Speaker 2:Okay, if you want to cross the street and you keep saying I don't want to get hit by a car, I don't want to get hit by a car, you're going to get hit by a car, because that's all the universe hears is I'm going to get hit by a car. What you want to say is the positive side of that I'm going to cross the street with no problem. I'm going to cross the street with no problem. And guess what? You will cross it every time with no problem. It's what you put out to the universe and that's what you're going to get back. If you want to keep playing the victim and the poor me, well, the universe is going to keep making you the victim and making you poor me, but that's what you're bringing upon yourself. What you put out, you get back.
Speaker 1:What are some practical ways that we can work? I know we spoke about meditation is a huge one, right. Are there some other practical ways as well that we can work on just changing that mindset, that victim?
Speaker 2:mindset. So give me a great example, sitting in traffic one day and I'm saying myself geez, you guys must have forgotten about me. I haven't had any signs or anything from you guys on the other side in like three days. What's up, I didn't move in traffic at all. I looked to my left. The telephone pole number was 5656, which in numerology is 1111. That's a message from the angels to me that they're working on everything that I've asked for and I should not feel that it's not happening. I look in front of me my life, my initials are on the license plate. I'm like, oh my god, I don't even see that. Then I looked to the right and the mailbox number had three 33 on it, which is another message from the angels that the ascended masters are actually working on it. That's the highest of high for all the guides. So there's nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2:But I wasn't paying attention, and that's most people. They don't pay attention because they're on the other side, constantly trying to help you and put you on your path. It's like a two-way mirror, okay. They can see you, they can hear you, they can touch you, and it's like they're banging on the glass saying I'm here, I'm here, can't you see me, can't you hear me? And your average person is oblivious. So, like I said, angels, their entire existence is to help us. You have to ask how do they talk Binary code and numbers? So you have to learn what the numbers mean that they're giving you. People are seeing the same number all the time 222-111. What does that mean? Well, figure it out, ask, find out right. Same thing if something out of the ordinary happens to you.
Speaker 2:I was stopped at a stop sign in the middle of nowhere and this entire herd of deer, one by one, took five minutes going in front of my car. I had to look up what was the spiritual meaning of a herd of deer. It was an amazing message. They're constantly trying to give you, messages you need to pay attention, always look up the spiritual meaning of it. You'll get two or three meanings. One of them, the one that resonates with you, is the meaning that they're trying to give you. I went golfing two weeks in a row with the same guy and we kept seeing owls and he's freaking out. Oh my God, salt, I need salt. Somebody's going to die. I'm like. No, I finally, you know, I'm like I forgot to look it up. The last time. I'll look it up now. It was an amazing message from the owl, so they're always trying to give you a message and put you on the path that you're supposed to be on. You have to pay attention and follow it.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for mentioning that, because that is also such a huge thing Looking for the signs, you know, paying attention, being open. I think one of the things is just remind yourself to stay open. Stay open in your mind, in your heart, just completely open, and the signs are always around you. You're always surrounded by energy. You're always surrounded by signs.
Speaker 2:The loved ones from the other side. My girlfriend called me last night. She goes. You're not going to believe what happened. I said tell me. She said well, my dad died about 10 years ago and at the funeral this car pulled in and turned around and the license plate on the car was I'm here. I'm here, okay. She's been having a lot of health issues. She thought she might've been misdiagnosed. She's like I really. She's praying. She's like I really need a sign. I really need something to tell me that it's going to be okay. The car pulls up next to her license plate I'm here. She's like I thought it was my dad because I thought I thought the message was from my dad, but I wasn't sure she goes. So what do you think happened next? She goes. I'm stuck in traffic. I look at the two cars in front of me. If I go across the cars, it's his full birthday, 08081925. She took pictures. I'm like, wow, see there, you go. Wow, they answer, you answer, you ask, they answer.
Speaker 1:That is amazing. That is amazing. I love that, and you have shared so much knowledge with me today so much and I absolutely love it and appreciate it. I'd like you to talk a bit about what you're up to right now, what you're doing, your book, your work and how my listeners can reach out to you.
Speaker 2:So I'm on all the social media, except the tip to tick tock. I'm not on that. They can go to my website, june Edwardcom June Edwardcom and there are tons of videos they can watch. There are videos from my students that have gone through my relationship mastery program they can watch. There are videos from my students that have gone through my relationship mastery program. There's a free webinar they can sign up for on the website and learn a little bit more about how energy works.
Speaker 2:If they're interested in the mastery program, they can schedule a call with me. They can schedule an appointment with me if they just want a reading or they want to talk to somebody from the other side, or they want some astrology or numerology done, or they want to look into their Akashic records and see, you know, why certain things are happening in their life. There's lots of things that I can help them with. I do have a blog on there and lots and lots and lots of reviews that they can read. Pretty much anything that they need is available to them, and there are links on there for all of my books.
Speaker 2:My first book is A Night on the Other Side, and that is everything that I used to teach in psychic development and mediumship development. So it's really there for a guide for people to understand how energy works, how to clear negative energy out of their home, how to meditate properly all of those things. And there's a destiny card journal on there as well for you to keep track of your intentions on the new moon. And then my best-selling award-winning book is All's Fair in Love and Karma, and that will answer a lot of questions for you as to why you're having issues with money and why you keep picking the wrong guy. All those types of things.
Speaker 1:Amazing. I love it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:No, you're very welcome.
Speaker 1:If you'd like to work with June, I've linked her details in the show notes below and feel free to check out her work. Y'all, she's pretty cool. All right, thank you so much for all the love and support you show us every week. Please continue to share this podcast with your friends and family. It's all about creating a community on the other side of fair. Thank you.
