Embarking on the Journey of Motherhood: Pregnancy, Postpartum, and Beyond

Ready to take a wild, enlightening ride into the landscape of motherhood? Buckle up! Walking you through the exhilarating rollercoaster of pregnancy to the demanding, yet rewarding reality of postpartum, we share our authentic, unfiltered experiences while also shedding light on topics that often go untouched. From the moment of discovering your pregnancy, the whirlwind of emotions, to the important family discussions, we've got it all covered.

Navigating the minefield of pregnancy care options can be daunting, but don't worry - we're here to help! We dive into the critical role of midwives and doulas, share our unique experiences with various procedures and tests, and even explore the possibility of declining them. But that's not all. We also delve into the bare essentials of pregnancy self-care, from the indispensability of sleep to the art of crafting a functional nursery, equipping you with practical wisdom from our own journeys.

Finally, we embark on the less charted territory of the postpartum journey. With an honest discussion about resuming intimacy after childbirth to the nitty-gritty of what really belongs in your hospital bag, we leave no stone unturned. The postpartum phase is a challenging time, both emotionally and physically, and often the most silent part of the childbirth journey. We aim to change that with candid dialogues and practical tips on seeking help and prioritizing self-care during this critical transition. So, tune in and join us on this raw, relatable, and enlightening exploration of the journey from pregnancy to motherhood.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:47

you. You welcome back to another episode, episode of the mom gulp podcast. Yay, episode number two. We made it here. We're alive and living and thriving. We're going to talk about all things pregnancy, carrying a child and I don't know why, because we just feel like we could talk about it. Yeah, because neither of us are pregnant. And I also feel like when I went into pregnancy I really didn't know what the heck was happening and I wish people or someone, or there was something I could listen to or something I could go to. That because there's a million books, but goodness gracious.

Speaker 1: 2:23

And don't read what to expect when you're expecting.

Speaker 2: 2:25

Holy cow, that's a big book.

Speaker 1: 2:27

It's so big and it's overwhelming. It's like you have time. You just want to sleep when you're pregnant. So the last thing I want to do is read like 100,000 pages of like what to expect, and then it just scares you so honestly.

Speaker 1: 2:38

And so I listened to podcasts so I'm like so I got you sister. Yes. So if I think it would be a good thing to talk about, so what? These are the questions we're going to answer what to do when you find out that you're pregnant. I'm peeing on a stick first, before you find out you're pregnant, so I don't know I think we were talking about it before you kind of just like freak out because it's scary. Well, both of us were not expecting it.

Speaker 1: 3:12

I think it's like very, I guess we don't, I guess I don't know, and I guess you've only been pregnant once. It's like you don't really. If you're not planning it, it's like terrifying. So the first thing you do is you freak out and you're like um, the thoughts that went through my head Well, this is you and Michael had been together for a while, Tristan and I had not been, so like the thoughts that probably went through my head were probably different than you, but I was like I'm going to be a single mom and this is not what I thought.

Speaker 1: 3:42

I like my life was going to look like, Like I just like immediately, was like this is not, this is not what I wanted. And my parents didn't know Tristan. So then the other thought in my mind was that my parents were going to judge me and think that I'm crazy because I'm pregnant and they don't even know him. So that's what I thought about. But I did like tell everybody pretty quickly, because I I'm just that person, like I can't keep this, like I can't hide this, I can't like I don't know. So I told everybody, I told my mom, told my dad. That was fun, and then I just like I feel like you just start preparing already. So you're like, okay, I'm pregnant, Like I'm not going to be doing the things I was doing before, Like like I drank, like a stop drinking, like I don't know, I just everything changed, I guess for me pretty fast.

Speaker 1: 4:33

Oh my gosh it was the scariest day of my entire life when I found out I was pregnant. I was not expecting it whatsoever and they I thought that I had like a UTI or something. And I went into the doctor's office and she came back and she was like you're pregnant and I was 19. And I was like you're joking. She's like no, and I immediately just like broke out into tears and I was not okay and I called. The first person I called was my best friend and I was like I have no idea what I'm going to do and she's like we got to figure it out real quick and I did. All it took was hearing his heartbeat and I decided that I wanted to keep him, yeah.

Speaker 1: 5:19

But then after that I tried to call Michael. It had to be like 100 times, he would not answer the phone. I got to his house, he was sleeping and then I walked in the door and I woke him up and he like looked at me and I'm crying. He's like what he knew. I was at the doctor and he was like what? And I just looked at him he's like you're joking. I was like no, he's like you serious. I'm like yep. And I pulled on a sonogram and he just started pacing. Yeah, I'm back and forth, back and forth. And then after that we just like told our parents together and everything. So it ended up being, but we took, I think. After that we went. We went to one of our friends, our good friends, kendall, and it was just us like Michael, me and Kendall, that's who we told, because we really confided in him and we knew there was no judgment like what are we going to do now?

Speaker 1: 6:10

And we took like three days to ourself and then we started telling people to kind of cope with the shock of everything. And then we told people I didn't even get to like tell Tristan in person because he was here in Florida and I was like it's going to be a phone call, yeah, but he took it very well. I mean he did, like when he said pacing a laugh, because I feel like it's what he was doing like face him, he's like oh my God, oh my God, what am I going to do? And then like him telling him his parents was like whole ordeal. I think he said he told his brother first and his brother was like, nah, like didn't believe him.

Speaker 1: 6:42

He's like yeah, and I think I met his family like one time so I was like they're going to think I'm a whore, but it is what it is. And they did it, they were great. But yeah, I guess like what to do. But I guess, logically, what to do when you find out is like obviously, like go to the doctor, like yes, that was like we went.

Speaker 1: 7:03

Really we went pretty quickly, like it was like at least when I was eight weeks or before that, and that's when, like they confirmed, because you want to like confirm that like the baby is there, not that, like you know, be on a stick, and you're there, but you find the heartbeat doing things and then like find that doctor.

Speaker 1: 7:21

I had to leave Florida to come to add Eastern and Georgia and I came here in February and had him in March. He's a month early and I didn't have a doctor here set up, and it's just so. You know, it's really hard to find doctors when you're that pregnant and you go somewhere else and you leave your doctor, which is crazy, because I called like everywhere here and I was like hey, I need a doctor, and they're like oh, okay, great, how far along are you? And I'm like how I guess I was like seven months, almost eight months, and they were like no, and I was like I need a doctor, like I need, like I want to go my last appointments and like find a doctor to like be with me, when I like had the baby and everything and nobody would take me like nobody. Yeah, being that far along.

Speaker 2: 8:01

Yeah, but they were, but they kept asking?

Speaker 1: 8:04

well, I think because they just like don't know enough about your pregnancy and they kept like they don't want to be liable, like if something happens. But I'm like I had records, like I was like I've been seeing a doctor since eight weeks, like I have records of like it's healthy pregnancy, like we're good, like I just want a doctor to like see me for the next month and then like help me have my baby, and nobody would. So I went into the hospital here to have him. I didn't know anybody. Like it was not a great experience. I was like that is crazy, not fun. But I mean, I think when you're in the moment anyways, it's just like eff it. I'm trying to get this baby out of me. Like it ended up being fine, but it was not like my best, it was not the best thing. But yeah, no, no one would see me.

Speaker 1: 8:41

So if you're going to move doctors, good luck. Cause I was like they kept saying like oh well, you're too far along. And I'm like, but I saw a doctor there and they're like, okay, get us your records. And then I got my records for one of them and they still were just like so nervous about it and I'm like okay, but then I ended up having him early suddenly I have time to really find anybody Cause I was like okay, I'm having him, so I just had him. It was like that fast, so I was like okay. But yeah, see a doctor immediately. I feel like I needed that for my like reassurance at first. I need to like hear that it's like real.

Speaker 1: 9:12

I need to see, it makes it more real. Yeah, I'm like oh shit, there's really a baby there. Oh my, what do you expect from your doctor's visits when you're pregnant? Not shit.

Speaker 2: 9:26

Literally.

Speaker 1: 9:28

It is. They come in there. You're so excited, honestly until when you go every week for the last few weeks, it's like I want to go back to the doctor. But like at the beginning, you go every like four weeks or whatever.

Speaker 2: 9:43

And you're so excited.

Speaker 1: 9:44

And then you go in there and they're like oh hey, how are you for two minutes put the Doppler on there?

Speaker 2: 9:48

and they're like oh, see you later.

Speaker 1: 9:50

Yeah, it's like you would get. You start to like get really excited about the ones where you know You're gonna have ultrasound because you don't get it. I think people think you get them like every time, but like you don't see, like sometimes you go in and it's just like Okay, harpy, you hear, harpy, we're good, bye, like, see you later. Yeah, it's like. Oh, that was really shitty.

Speaker 1: 10:06

Yeah, I just waited for 30, 45 minutes, for five minutes, so like don't expect much unless you're getting the ultrasound, and it's a little bit more.

Speaker 1: 10:16

And then, towards the end, it's like a little bit more than that, because they start to like make sure you see if you're dilated and like I don't know, I like I didn't, I feel like I didn't choose, like I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't know enough to be like oh, I don't want you to do this or I want you to do that, or, and I think there's like a whole Like you can ask for things and like decline things, but I didn't know that.

Speaker 1: 10:34

So I was just like okay, you're gonna like check from dilated and you're like do like whatever and then like now that I've like have more than one kid and I've like done it the second time. Like dang, there's a lot of things like I didn't have to do or I didn't, I Don't know like what. Well, like I just have friends that are like you know you can like say no to, like I Don't know. Like, did they check, like when I was getting close to having Easton, like and I was pretty I guess I was pretty early, but they would like see if I was dilated?

Speaker 1: 11:01

at all and like they said that you don't really you don't have to let the doctor Do that.

Speaker 2: 11:05

I didn't know that. I didn't know that either, but you know that you like.

Speaker 1: 11:08

No, thanks, yeah, that's good to know but, I hated, but that makes sense. Like you should be able to be like. I don't want you to touch me.

Speaker 2: 11:13

Yeah, you should but they don't really tell you that it's an option. But they're not like do you want to be?

Speaker 1: 11:18

yeah, they're like we're gonna check and I'm like okay, like it's fine. And then I started like following women that like have homebursts and like do everything naturally. And they're like, nope, didn't see a Doctor like Ford, like ever. And I just like have a baby at home, didn't get checked that way, just like felt like went into labor, my water broke or whatever, and just had a baby and I'm like I'm gonna more power to you, cuz I cannot, I could not, but yeah, you can, like Just Will be living on a prayer. Yeah, I mean like I hope everything's okay. I didn't know that yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:50

Yeah, you can say you can like decline a lot of things. I didn't know that either, but I guess, like and I didn't have a glucose test with Easton. They never, they didn't do one. Like I don't, yeah, didn't do it, didn't even like, literally didn't even bring it up in Florida. And then I came here when I had the twins, I did one, but, yeah, I didn't do in the first time. So when I did it here, they were like, oh you, I'm sure you know what to do, cuz you've already had a baby. And I'm like, no, haven't done this. It's really weird. But you can say no to those two like, you don't have to do those really, yeah, yeah, they don't, they don't say that there's a lot of.

Speaker 1: 12:19

So my friend Kelsey shelled to Kelsey she's gonna be at the wedding but she is, she's like very it's not mean but, like she's just not. She's like I want a midwife and a doula. I don't care. Like I don't need to see a doctor.

Speaker 2: 12:37

Like I'm hurry yeah.

Speaker 1: 12:38

She like can do the whole like home birthing and like she encouraged me to do a home birth of the twins and I was just like Scare shit. I was like, yeah, I'll do that. But she's like, yeah, people do it. But, um, yeah, she didn't do it, she. There's also like alternatives between like taking the actual like drink. There's like other forms of the tests where you can like have like natural, wow, yeah, like instead of that drink. There's like other things you can do and then do it at home. Basically, yeah, so, or you can just not do it. I didn't do it these and and he was fine, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1: 13:12

That drink I some people I've watched so many things and heard so many things that people enjoyed that drink. Oh, my goodness, I didn't actually hate it. Oh, I did. What flavor did you get? It was red, mine was clear, and it was like a lemon lime. It tasted like a flat sprite.

Speaker 2: 13:27

Okay, so it wasn't bad.

Speaker 1: 13:28

Mine was like Hawaiian punch and I got so sick it was awful.

Speaker 1: 13:32

Mine wasn't bad. Mine literally tasted like I was chugging like a sprite from like three days ago. She's like Just flat. It wasn't bad, but yeah, I don't. But I don't like sweet things. I was like I'm like it was like chugging it. I was like timing myself I'm gonna die. I think I recorded myself so I could like time it and then, like I wanted my reaction, I was like posting it on tiktok, I think I don't remember where I posted it, but I was like I was like two minutes left. I'm like I'm like, oh my god, this is horrible. But yeah, you can say no to that. So that's crazy.

Speaker 1: 14:06

Yeah you can say no to, like literally anything. That's good to know. Yeah, I'm cray cray. Okay, self-care tips when pregnant Hold on. I have to say one more thing, side note, about things that you can say no to. I didn't know this. There was a girl that I used to work with and she was a pediatric therapist. But she told me, like after you have the baby, you know how they take them and like they give them their shots in the hospital. You don't have to do that. You can wait till their first pediatric appointment. Yeah, I didn't know that and like, because I remember it being so traumatic for me and but I know it was traumatic for him, yeah, so next time, if I'm able to have another child, I definitely will wait until like it's not, they don't even offer that yeah, they're not even like do you want to do it now?

Speaker 1: 14:55

Yeah they're just like oh, this is what they don't tell you yeah, they don't tell you anything, which I think that there should be a whole. There should be like a whole class on like pregnancy 101.

Speaker 1: 15:06

There really should be for from, especially from like from Kelsey, telling me, like her midwife, I like I think a midwife should do it and be like, hey, women have babies without ever even going to a doctor and that's okay, yeah, and they have healthy babies. But it's like we are like in a world where you feel like you have to see the doctor all the time and you have to like and I obviously there's circumstances where, like, if you're high risk or like whatever, or you have a condition, yeah yeah, you have a condition that can like affect your pregnancy, then like that's different.

Speaker 1: 15:38

But you kind of like notice those, like I feel like if you have your, like your blood pressure is high or like you, you will know like I'm not okay and this isn't like a normal, like I need to be, like watched and I need, then you would know. But like you wouldn't know if I Don't know if you're having, if you're like because, like I don't have any Conditions that would put me at risk for those things, like I'm not diabetic, I don't have high blood pressure.

Speaker 1: 16:03

I don't have. The only thing I am is anemic. So I take iron because I'm literally it's Actually have bad anemia. But like that was the only thing and they ended up giving me a blood transfusion after my C-section because they were like, girl, you already had like horrible like blood counts. So here's some more blood, which that was the freakiest experience. Is so random, but that was the freakiest experience of like of my life. Like Cuz I had an IV in my arm already. So they're like we're just gonna give you blood transfusion. We're just gonna like basically pop the IV out and like put blood. Disgust, disgusting, like I was gonna throw up literally.

Speaker 1: 16:37

Like you just see this like dark red Bag of blood like on your thing, cuz you're just used to seeing like fluids, so you're like you see the red and like you see the line going in your arm and it just looks like you just, oh, I don't even know, I was literally, I was nauseous. Like the nurse was like do you want me to like stop, what do you mean to do? And I was like just covered up. She literally had to like cover the blood and like cover my arm and she and it took like five hours to finish.

Speaker 1: 17:03

It's so slow, oh my god, yeah you know how, like IVs like an hour, like 30 minute, they can do a fast drip. It's so slow with blood like they have to do it really slow. So it was like felt like half the day I was laying in bed and I was just like it was like covered the whole time and I was like I'm not, like, I'm not looking, you just feel icky, like I felt. I felt so gross, I think, just like thinking in my head that somebody else's blood yeah, it's going into me. I was like this feels wrong, this feels wrong. Yeah, yeah, anyways, that was horrible. Hey did that. It's the first time I ever, ever had to do it. So I was just like good, yeah, that's freaky Disgusting.

Speaker 2: 17:37

I've wanted you to get me.

Speaker 1: 17:38

Yeah, that would freak me out too. Oh, we're fine. Oh, my god, I think. Oh, self-care tips yeah, you, when pregnant, mmm, I don't know I slept a lot, mm-hmm. I feel like that's really like one of the best things you can do is sleep, because I would sleep and I would still be tired, but I slept a lot more with ease than I did with the twins. I worked a lot more when I was pregnant with the twins, honestly, yeah, but I just like I worked.

Speaker 1: 18:08

I literally worked Non-stop, so I was just always tired.

Speaker 2: 18:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:13

Yeah, that's how I was with the twins, with the East, and we were still in Florida and Tristan. I really slept a lot, like we just Literally like would order food and then eat it in the bed and fall asleep and like watch movies. We're living. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, it was nice to that's nice being pregnant.

Speaker 1: 18:30

Well, it's nice, because when we had the twins, we like I think you should just like Embrace that when you're pregnant for the first time, because you do not.

Speaker 1: 18:39

It's not the same when you have a kid and then you have your second baby, or however many babies you have in my case. But, like when I Got pregnant with the twins, it was exhausting because I still had to get up with Easton and I had to like play with Easton and I had to like an oh my god, like having to play with a toddler and infant while you're pregnant. It's like it's so, it's so hard and like you can't sleep as much and you have to like go. You want to like take them places and you want it. So you're just not so like. I wish I went, like could just appreciate how good it was To be pregnant the first time, because I didn't have to do anything like and even if you had to work, you at least you didn't have to like deal with another kid, do that whole routine and then also be exhausted from being pregnant. Like it's just like adds a whole another layer.

Speaker 1: 19:25

Yeah like not to scare anybody, but like the first pregnancy was definitely the best, and then the second one you're just like dang, you get no breaks because you've got your other kid. And then you've got a job most people have a job and then you don't sleep. So it's a really fun time, really fun time. I don't know what else I did, self-care wise when I was pregnant. That was good. I would say like keep trying to. I mean, I didn't work out hard when I had Easton, but I I was a big runner, like I would run and I miss it so much. I tell Tristan I'm gonna do it more. And I was gonna like make a TikTok series about. I was gonna call it running after babies. Like Running after babies, but like running after. Yeah, I was like that's cute. And then like I was gonna do that two weeks ago.

Speaker 1: 20:07

I haven't ran, so the series will be coming soon. But like I used to ride, literally used to run like six, seven miles, like because we lived on the beach and there was like a Really pretty trail along the beach and it was like I would get up at five or six and I would literally run for miles and I loved it. And then got pregnant and I was tires F all the time and I was like I'm not gonna do this so I stopped. So I haven't actually ran Probably since, like I was before I was pregnant with Easton and I miss it. But I wish I would have continued because I see all these girls on TikTok that like work out for their pregnancy.

Speaker 1: 20:36

It looks so good and I think it makes like. It definitely makes birth easier and it definitely makes like you're after pregnancy recovery easier too, because you don't have to like merge back into like not being active for nine whole months, into like After having him, like either a c-section, having major surgery or having a baby, and then like trying to get back into it. It's really freaking hard. So I would say like Self-care would be like moving, like walking. You can walk or you can go to the gym.

Speaker 1: 21:06

Yeah like I'm like I'm surprised, I'm like admiring all the pregnant women that do that, cuz I was like I'm gonna be that person. It was not that person. It's not that person. I we lived in an apartment complex and so I would walk around the apartment complex, especially like the last Seven, eight weeks of my pregnancy yeah. I literally would just walk. I was just ready.

Speaker 1: 21:27

Yeah, yeah, I was like walk to get the baby out but, honestly, I think just doing it the whole time is so good for you. Yeah, I wish I would have done it more because I feel like it would have made it easier after and it's just like the routine and the habit of doing it, like if you can stay in the routine of doing it, it's just easier when you're like Recovering and you're in postpartum and you're not like dang now I have to restart. It's like restarting your whole fitness journey all over because you, like you stopped for so long.

Speaker 1: 21:53

That's why I'm like feel like I'm gonna go run one day soon and I'm gonna be like, oh my god, I can't even run a mile, so fat. Oh, whatever, we'll see how that goes. I'll be like out of breath in a minute. I don't know Self-care tell your man's to rub your feet. Make him rub you.

Speaker 2: 22:11

Yes, because they get so swollen.

Speaker 1: 22:12

Yeah, it's that's not fun. No good, foot rubs are the best. My back hurt really bad when I was pregnant with the twins. I Bet I was pretty small and I had ease, since I'd never had like back pain. And then with the twins and I honestly the way how big I was with the twins is how big I feel like most people are with one baby Like, but for me it felt like I was huge and I just remember like my back, my lower back, was so, so bad, like, so bad. So Tristan would rub me all the time, to the point where he would literally be like, can I stop? Can I stop? And I'm like, no, this is so good, yes, but yeah, he would rub my back. Prenatal massages are good. I don't know. I'm like what else did I do? You're not supposed to sit in like a hot bath, so I would do like a not a super hot bath, but like not a cold bath either.

Speaker 1: 23:02

Yeah, I'm medium with epsom, so I enjoyed those. Yeah, just to relax. Yeah, truth, I love to go get my toes done. I Never stopped doing that, well I know, but it was the best I would go on a week, because those ladies would just get in those.

Speaker 1: 23:21

I'm like five dollar. More literally, yes, oh my god, true, true, okay, wait, sorry, I'm looking in quiet time. Yeah, it fits your first baby like, soak up the quiet time. What you should and should not buy, that's a good one. What you need, what you actually use, I feel like with Easton we had like barely anything because we had just moved here and we literally went into. I went into labor and we were supposed to be moving into our apartment on Like Friday or Saturday and I had him, went on Wednesday and had him Thursday, and so Tristan's family literally moved all of our stuff from storage into an apartment.

Speaker 1: 24:11

Mm-hmm for us while we were in the hospital because we had nothing set up. I was like we're literally gonna bring this baby home and not even have a bed to sleep on and like nothing for the baby. Nothing like it was so bad because we just made, made the move and so they like set up like a little crib for us and we had a bassinet and then like Diaper, like we barely had anything and it was like fine.

Speaker 1: 24:34

Honestly, I always say that like People have like the cutest nursery rooms, but like we ended up eventually getting him like a changing table. We thought it was cute, never used it like, never used it like we use it for storage. We threw like a lot of stuff on there diapers and stuff and then we ended up like we would change them on the floor More than anything, or on the couch or on the bed. And I'm like dang and I was looking for the twins nursery when I had them and they were like Changing tables for like $500 and I'm like and I'm literally feel like I'm not gonna use this, like like I probably should, but I'm definitely not gonna use this and like to this day, I'm like put them on the couch and I change them.

Speaker 2: 25:12

Yeah, never like.

Speaker 1: 25:14

I never. I'm like a dresser because you can do like a dresser and put like a changing tape on top, it's better, but like a specific table for changing a baby. Scam. This is scam. Never used it, never used it. It was cute but never used it.

Speaker 1: 25:30

We use our bassinet. For a long time when Easton was little, we tried to like avoid co-sleeping but we like he didn't like sleeping with us Anyway, so we didn't really co-sleep but he loved his bassinet because it was like close enough near us where we didn't have to like Go to get him out of his crib every time that he would wake up. So, like a bassinet always like the twins didn't like theirs, so we did have the double bassinet and now we're currently trying to get rid of it because we're like this thing is huge and it takes up too much room. They didn't end up loving it. So I don't know, it depends on the baby. So there's a lot of things I feel like you can wait to get to like see if your baby Actually will like them.

Speaker 1: 26:06

Yeah, pacifiers. Easton liked a pacifier for like two weeks and then he sucked his thumb. So we bought like all these pacifiers we got like because there's so many different kinds. You're like, oh my god, your baby could like the one that's like a bulb shape or like a nipple shape or like, and I'm like, oh my god, there's like 13 different things and like I have to buy all of them and they're expensive. Yeah, so we ended up buying a bunch of them. Easton used like one and then he never took another one, so we didn't use those ever. Bottom a lot of cute clothes.

Speaker 2: 26:37

He never wore them Ever yeah, like onesies, or he was making zero to three months.

Speaker 1: 26:43

Yeah, like maybe two weeks, and he was a little baby and it was the same. I think, even if you have a tiny like use five pounds and he probably we would have been okay doing like three to six months, yep, right out the, and he was tiny, it was, some things were a little big on him, but I would rather that like spending money on like newborn clothes, it's just not enough time. It's yeah, it's so bad. It's so bad and I like try to tell people now that I've had kids, like I Always try to buy like size one diapers for my friends because they eat the same thing new, like newborn. They wear those for like a week and it's like, oh my god. And then everybody at your diaper or your shower gives you like boxes of them and you're like holy shit, I have literally 30 boxes of newborn, like two boxes of ones, and you're like, dang, I already have to buy diapers.

Speaker 1: 27:32

It sucks like, don't buy a newborn because most newborns can wear ones and they'll be okay. Yep, they'll survive. Yep, they'll survive. What's something you use that you loved? That I love yeah, that you would like buy over and over again um.

Speaker 1: 27:51

His swing yeah, I loved his swing and then Swaddles, he loves swaddles his swaddles and then I did not use something that I should have never bought was a white warmer. Yeah, same I should, because I made the mistake of Using the white former mm-hmm, and so I spoiled him. So when we're out in the real world, yeah, out in public, and you put a wet wipe on his butt, yeah, he screamed. So I just think that is, we had a, we had somebody gifted us it. So we were like, oh cool, and then we never, we literally, I think, filled it up one time and Then I don't think we even used the whole thing.

Speaker 1: 28:28

It was just so inconvenient because, like we would be, we would have like a diaper. You know, we had like a diaper caddy and we like would carry that around the house and so it just had wipes and diapers and like dust and or cream or whatever, and like I'm not gonna Get purposely go to the diet, to the warmer and get a freaking wipe right now. So we should never spoiled our kids, like the twins, not, they don't, they don't even know what a warm wipe is like, yeah, they're living the struggle, but he said to even care for them. Really, like, we use them, and then we would use the cold ones and he didn't care. And I get it, I guess, when Jameson was like a new newborn and yeah, I just first came home.

Speaker 1: 29:07

So the warm wipe then yeah, but we just kept using them and so it spoiled him and yeah. He wasn't used to a cold wipe, yeah but it's again if I have another, another child again. I hope that will be something that I won't. Yeah, it's not very necessary.

Speaker 2: 29:23

No no.

Speaker 1: 29:26

Not at all we love our baby Breeza, but we we Didn't use that with Easton. I know I wish they had that one. I had Jameson.

Speaker 2: 29:35

I probably did, I just didn't know about it.

Speaker 1: 29:37

No, I think it just like started getting big like a couple years, like because we didn't we didn't even get. Tristan's parents bought it for us and, as I was always thought about getting one but they're not cheap and I was like I don't know, I don't know if we need it. And then, like, when they gave that, they gave us for Christmas. I was pregnant with the twins and they like gave it to us as a Christmas gift and I was literally like Like it was so funny. I was like it's not even for me, but it's kind of for me. I love it, but that was the best.

Speaker 1: 30:04

I think that one that we have is like a little under $300 but like worth every single penny, like Literally worth it. It's life saver. You have to make sure you clean it properly and you have to like make sure you know how to use it when you like first get it, because there's like settings and all that, but if you like take the time to do it, it's like it's amazing, it's freaking amazing and I everyone always asked me my videos like is it worth it? I'm like yes, especially if you have more than one that's drinking a bottle, but even with one Getting up at like 1 am I'm being so tired?

Speaker 1: 30:34

and instead of having to like yeah, you're like yeah you're like go start and it's, and it's warm and it's like perfect temperatures, you don't have to like worry if it's too hot or too cold. And you're like trying to like because we also tried like the bottle warmer Takes way too long, yes, way too long. I'm like I'm not, I'm not trying to sit here for eight minutes and like my baby's like screaming, crying. I think that's the best part of it. It's it's done in like 10 seconds and it's like, oh, my god, my baby can like yeah, I'd be quiet, buy it. I think they have like other things too, but there I think they're sending us like their Stereo laser, which I never really thought about, but I feel like the one we got was like the fast one. So it's Sarah lises bottles in like 10 minutes, which is like so clutch Versus like with Easton, I literally boiled. I did too.

Speaker 1: 31:22

I was like we're boiling this stuff. But you can be real spoiled and be like I'm gonna get the sterilizer that you just stick them in and does it real fast and they have. They have the technology now. It makes it real easy. But yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 2: 31:34

It's not cheap.

Speaker 1: 31:36

It's not cheap. I don't know what else we use that. We really liked Any big items. No, we love our wagon for the twins. We don't really need it with one, though. It's like when you're first pregnant like. James and loved the door hanger that you could bounce. Yeah, I don't know if they even make those anymore.

Speaker 2: 31:58

They had a week big on for.

Speaker 1: 31:59

Easton. He's so probably that day he would sit, I would sit in the floor and he would just go crazy. Yeah he loved it. I feel like anything to like the walkers anything when they start moving, you need cuz.

Speaker 1: 32:12

It's like, oh, you have to chase him around. It's like so much, it's so much. But yeah, I don't know, I feel like there's so many things that you don't need like always post a video. And there's always some Karen on there that's like, wow, your life is so easy. They didn't have any of this when I was having kids and I'm like Okay, why would I not use it if it's here?

Speaker 2: 32:36

I'm gonna use it but, yeah, a Rocker.

Speaker 1: 32:40

We didn't use a rocker with Easton, really, we don't really now either, but I like that's such a like, that's such a you need to know your baby cuz. Like I have twin, I have friends that like use it every night and they rock their baby to sleep. And then I have friends like that are like me and like they don't, they never, they would never use it, like never. With Easton we literally would lay him in his crib and we didn't rock him, like we would fall asleep and then we just lay him in there. And the rockers can be expensive too. They're really cute in a nursery but, bro, they're expensive. And then we were mad like we had one with Easton that we just never used and we're like we're not I'm not gonna buy a new one for the twins to like not ever, ever use it. And we did it.

Speaker 1: 33:19

We still don't yeah but I think some babies do like that. So it's like if your baby, if you realize your baby like likes to be rocked to sleep or like I don't know, I feel like for me it was different too excited breastfeed and I think if I breastfed I probably would have used it a lot more, cuz like that's somewhere I could sit like in the room with the baby. But I never did that. It was just. I read just about bottle fed with all the babies, so like Tristan could do it and he could do it anywhere and I could do it anywhere and so we didn't really need that space. But I think if you're breastfeeding it's probably good.

Speaker 1: 33:49

Yeah and like we love the boppies. But I Think some girls say that like they liked it for breastfeeding. I didn't breastfeed, but it's just nice. In general, I feel like to have something to prop them up and like if you don't want to hold them and feed them, you can like prop them up on that and feed them, versus like with twins, especially because you cannot hold two babies and feed them at Same time. So those are lifesaver and they have the twin Z pillow, which is like when your two babies can sit together. But that's for my small and issue people that are like having twins. But anyways, that one's cool but you can always do. I'm kind of glad we did. We have two boppies instead because they're not always together Like we don't have Cohen right now, we have Asher and like it's just easier to have like the two separate because they're not always Together or they're not always eating at the same time either. So the boppies were clutch. We like them. Yeah, I like to my pregnancy pillow when I was pregnant.

Speaker 1: 34:40

That was my favorite thing in the whole entire world. I still slept on that after my C-section for a while. Yeah, I used it after I had Jameson like as like something, because I tried to nurse for a little while. Yeah, like as like a prop.

Speaker 2: 34:53

Yeah boppy.

Speaker 1: 34:54

They're so cool. I feel like once you sleep on them for like nine months or however long, eight months, seven months, I don't know. I think I got mine when I was like three months pregnant with the twins. Oh, it was a long time. When you sleep with it for that long, you don't want to get rid of it. You're like I'm so used to it.

Speaker 2: 35:09

It's so cozy yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:11

I'm like we're just gonna keep that. Tristan loved it, like if I was not, michael hated it. No, tristan liked it for himself, like if he was napping he'd be like I'm gonna get that pillow.

Speaker 2: 35:20

I'm like oh, my god, you need your own pregnancy pillow. I'm like oh no.

Speaker 1: 35:24

Michael hated it. He could not wait for the day for that to be out of the bed.

Speaker 2: 35:28

Mm-hmm. He hated it, no I loved it, but I'm not a cuddler.

Speaker 1: 35:31

So Tristan could like I could like cuddle this side and like Tristan could cuddle the Side on the back. I mean you can just get your head on that and like I'll be here, we can be like kind of close, but like you don't have to touch me. Yeah, and that's how we slept. So, yeah, I liked it too. They're so worth it. I think, I was only like 40 bucks yeah and I would buy it on Amazon, yeah over and over again.

Speaker 1: 35:54

I would too, ten out of ten, recommend what's a put in your hospital bag. Fuzzy socks yeah and chapstick oh my gosh and lotion. I overpacked with the twins because I didn't get to pack a bag with Easton. Yeah, I didn't know what to pack with James. Yeah and I just look now all my friends, when all my friends have babies, like at their Baby shower, I make them a bag.

Speaker 1: 36:22

I'm like here you have to have all these things that I didn't I forgot or I didn't even think to bring, but my, my two Were fuzzy socks and chapstick, because my lips got so chapped when I was Because I couldn't drink anything. I Feel like it depends to like what you're, if you're having a C-section or not, because I didn't, I Don't know. Like with Easton, I Didn't know us having him. Like I went into the emergency room and I just thought they were gonna like check me and send me home and so I didn't have anything packed, so I had to rely on like Tristan and his mom to like put me some clothes together and like it was really it was a hot mess we survived.

Speaker 1: 37:03

So it's like if you don't have a hospital bag or like you just unexpected, like you're not gonna die and the hospital really provides like a lot of the things that you do need, like they I mean they gave us everything we needed for the baby. Like we really could have done without. We didn't need anything really. Like we had, obviously, outfits for him and everything, but if you didn't like they were like they would be okay, like white onesies and it didn't really matter. Um, diapers, wipes, we they had formula for us.

Speaker 1: 37:28

Like I pumped for a little bit in the hospital, they had formula when I couldn't like continue to pump and like we fed him that and then that was, I mean, they had a receiving blanket. Like you literally don't need anything if you don't have anything. So that's the cool thing. But yeah, I was kind of sad it and just like pack a little bag with him. And then I had a C-section with the twins and I Did pack a bag because that was kind of scheduled Well, kind of kind of not, but it was scheduled enough where I could like go home and pack a bag and I just like mainly focused on like comfy clothes for myself and I don't know it's different because, like with Easton, you like you need like pads and you need like when you're not having a C-section and you need to like into that recovery and like the C-section.

Speaker 1: 38:09

They kind of just like have you covered? And they like you just don't really know what's going on, don't you? Don't want to see? Like I didn't want to look. I was like just cover me up, yeah, and I didn't really need anything except for pain medicine. Yeah, it was like give me them pills. So yeah, it was different, but I did pack like slippers and like toiletries.

Speaker 1: 38:30

I was also there longer with the C-section. I feel like you have to usually be there more. So it's like with Easton, I think I left the next day or maybe the not the next day of the day after, so like maybe two days max. I was in the hospital for almost five days with my C-section. So it's like I can go without like washing my hair for like two days doing that.

Speaker 1: 38:48

But like when the C-section, I was like on day four I was like I need to take a shower and I need to. Like I took a shower before I went home with Easton, but like I didn't have to, I didn't feel like I had to wash my do the everything shower. But when you're in there for four or five days you're like I need to wash my hair and like I need to feel like myself again. So I'm glad I like pack shampoo and conditioner and body wash and all my own stuff, and even towels, like we packed, like our own towels from the house, which was so nice yeah, those little things. And like a pillow, like all the things that you wish you had when you're there, but we didn't have. You're not gonna die, but yeah, it was like a pillow, a blanket, slippers, socks, toiletries, all the baby's things, a Lot of things. Yeah, snacks, which, like isn't even the end of the world either. If you have your man's with you, like he can get you stuff.

Speaker 1: 39:37

Yeah, like he Tristan's job, we just like run and get like coffee in the mornings and like bring breakfast and then like go back out and get lunch if you don't Want to eat the hospital food like, and get dinner. So if you're not alone then you don't really have to worry about it. But yeah, I wasn't like starving when I was in labor, like at all, I was just uncomfortable. So it's like I don't feel like eating, like I was just like let me just get through this.

Speaker 1: 39:57

So I was induced, so I didn't eat anything for over 24 hours. I was starving they did not all I could eat was popsicles and Jell-O yeah.

Speaker 2: 40:07

Oh, I was so hungry anything.

Speaker 1: 40:09

I don't. I didn't eat anything.

Speaker 1: 40:11

Oh, I didn't feel like eating, though, until I was after, and then we had food, but yeah, everyone's like snacks and I'm like that's for the man, really like yeah if he wants them, but I don't know what else, I Guess, if you're not having a C-section, like your postpartum stuff, like I, we like I loved like the actual like diapers versus like the ones I have in the hospital. The ones I have in the hospital aren't horrible, but I got like Actual diapers so I didn't have to put like a whole another pad on it and I could like it was just way more convenient and it just probably get like held me in better. Like I'm like I don't feel like these things are gonna fall off me cuz I'm pretty small, so those things would like literally stretch and I'm like Gonna fall off my butt, like I wanted to do. They were big. But yeah, I Wish I would have packed a robe.

Speaker 1: 40:59

I don't know why, but if like yeah, that would have been so much more convenient. Like I packed like cute little matching sets, like nursing things, but I was like damn a robe, literally just to be like Bam, like if I need to nurse or finally need to like just that would have been so nice. That's like such an obvious thing. But I didn't pack a robe, I just packed like little outfits. They could have done better, but I would have done a robe with some slippers. Yeah, a charger, a phone charger. At those things you don't think about magazine.

Speaker 2: 41:33

Yeah, a Book.

Speaker 1: 41:38

Then I feel like the things you pack you don't really use, you're like I'm gonna read and let you don't but just in case, are you? Sleep. If you have time to read. Yeah, that's what I could see, like because you can't fall asleep while you're nursing. So yeah, like if you look at a magazine, I would myself. Personally, if I read a book, I fall asleep. Yeah so I took a magazine to Like look through while I was trying to nurse. Yeah, I don't think there's anything else. I really packed that. I love.

Speaker 1: 42:15

Because they even have like a pump for you at the hospital and if you're gonna pump, you can pump with their pumps, which I didn't yeah, I didn't know that they have good ass pumps at the hospital.

Speaker 2: 42:28

Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know any of this. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1: 42:33

Yeah, they like helped me because I was like still trying to get Easton was early and it was hard to get him to latch, so they were like trying to at least get me to pump so I could get milk for him. And so they like wheeled in the pump and all the parts and like all the stuff to store the milk. Yeah, and it has good suction. Their stuff is good Cause they're expensive. That's crazy. Yeah, they have like better ones and you can buy like in Target Like they have decent ones, but like the hospital ones are like big, like hefty ones, like okay.

Speaker 2: 43:00

So you don't even need that. Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1: 43:02

Yeah, Don't even need to bring a pump, you can just. You know, when you get home you can rent them too from the hospital.

Speaker 2: 43:06

They come home. That's crazy.

Speaker 1: 43:08

Yeah, I had to take one home when I had the twins cause I was pumping so much and theirs was just so good, like I was. Like I feel like if I don't have one, that is this good, like it's just not going to be the same, or like something's going to mess up Like. But I ended up getting like the Spectra or whatever from Target and it worked fine, but I'd rented theirs. It was like 15 bucks a week, like so worth it.

Speaker 1: 43:30

Yeah, they make it like, and then you just like bring it back when you're done.

Speaker 2: 43:33

That's nice.

Speaker 1: 43:34

Yeah, you can just bring them home.

Speaker 2: 43:36

That's very nice.

Speaker 1: 43:37

Cause they have insurance, is supposed to give me one and then they it like came super super late. So I wanted it to. Best ways to recover after you have your baby. Don't push yourself for sure. Like, take, it's okay that you aren't doing as much as you want to be doing.

Speaker 1: 43:58

Like you've got to give yourself time to heal. I remember when I was so young, when I had Jameson, I, my mom, was like why don't you my second day at home? I called her and I was a blubbering mess. I hadn't slept in days and she was like, okay, I'm going to come get you. And so she came and got me the next day. I'm so grateful. But she came and got me the next day and I went and stayed at her and my stepdad's house for a night and they took Jameson and I got to sleep a whole two hours straight through.

Speaker 1: 44:29

Sleeping is life changing and that was like that helped me recover so much, because you get to be still for a little while and just sleep and help your body heal Well, and it's like a different sleep. Yeah, it is, and I know that you don't have to worry about your baby. It's like. It's like, literally, you just sleep harder and you sleep longer and you like are refreshed, cause you get used can sleep when you have your baby, but it's like, it's like you're not all the way asleep, yeah, cause you always suddenly wake up and it's like, did I even like get to sleep, like that, even feel like sleep?

Speaker 1: 44:59

So, yeah, you need like some some kind of break, and even you could even get like a solid like two hour nap. But if you don't have your baby, that two hour nap feels like a long time. So, yeah, resting for sure. I was very humbled after my C-section, cause I was up and walking and like living my best life. Like the same day I had Easton, like I felt so good, like obviously I was like bleeding and I was like recovering, like I needed to wear a diaper for a while and like that. But like I felt really good, like I felt like fine, like I was walking around and I was fine.

Speaker 1: 45:31

And with my C-section I was like in so much pain and I like physically couldn't get out of bed for at least a whole day. And then they like made me get up cause they're like you've got to start moving or like you're not going to feel good, like you've got to move. So like I remember the pain, like just getting literally just going from, like trying to get up, cause you use your core so much and you were just like using your core for anything hurt. So like I would literally like I'd like roll to the side to get out of bed and it was horrible and I was on like heavy pain medicine. I was still like crying and pain, but that that humbled me. So I was like, oh my God, this is really hard. But I just think it's people don't like act like it's a major surgery, but it's a major surgery. But like people just like I had a C-section, it's fine, it's nothing, and I'm like, no, it's like literally like a lot of you is getting it's really big surgery actually, like that's really scary, but like we just don't, it's just such a normal common thing. Like people don't think about it like that. But it definitely like set me back. I was like, oh my God. And I got really frustrated because like the boys were in the NICU but like I couldn't like it hurt to hold them. Like the first day I got to go see them. Like just like I couldn't hold them here cause that was where, like my incision was, so I'd like hold them up and it was like so frustrating and then I would like be in pain still, like when I would see them and I would be uncomfortable and I just like couldn't enjoy like being with them cause I was like constantly in pain. Yeah, so it was just not a good experience, but it definitely made me rest, cause I like physically had to stay in the hospital for like five or six days and like just be in bed. So like it let me recover more than when I did the first time.

Speaker 1: 47:09

But I like I hated it. I hated it so much, it was so painful. But I have like friends that loved it. They loved their experience and they're like I would do a C-section every time and I'm like girl, no, I couldn't imagine. No, no, I just don't do, I just can't do.

Speaker 1: 47:28

Getting cut into that Just scares me to death. I hated it, I hated it. I thought it was gonna be. I was like kind of excited to do it. Going in I was like, oh, this is gonna be it. Like it felt like the easy way out to do that versus like push and like go through like that part. But then after I did it, I was like that was not, that was harder. Like I reflect on like having Eastern, on like, oh my God, having Eastern was so much easier than doing that. Like the recovery at least was easier? I don't know, so I would not. Obviously, if you have to have a C-section, you don't have to do it, but I wish I did not do it. I'm like I wish I would have just like done something else, but that's okay. Yeah, I know people that had three kids and they get a C-section with all three.

Speaker 2: 48:16

They just cut the same incision.

Speaker 1: 48:17

Yeah, that freaks me out that grosses me out, yeah, no, and my incisions, like they're not small, like they're big and I'm like, I don't, like. I wonder what it would look like after doing that three times. Not that like that matters, but it like, but it affects you because like it's on your, it's a scar that's on your body, like forever, and it's big and like it's honestly so low that you can't, like I wear bathing suits and you can't see it because it's not low, like it's not like, it's like, but it's still like. But I see it like when I'm naked, like I see it when I'm taking a shower. I see what I'm changing. So, like it does, it's like not the best feeling because I'm like, oh yeah, I love that, but it is. It's not, you know, bat either. It's a scar. It's a scar that brought two babies into the world, you know.

Speaker 1: 49:04

Yeah so but it's, it's still, but you're different, but you're like you're like and you're different, and you're like dang, I look different and then I feel different and that like messes with you too. So it's like dang, I just want to like not have a scar on me. And then I had my app induct me and I'm like more scars. I'm like great, my literal belly is just like four scars, but it's fine, it's fine. So, yeah, fun times, fun times.

Speaker 1: 49:30

But yeah, I would just say like resting for sure and like actually taking and realizing, yeah, that like you're not, you feel like you're not doing a lot when you bring the baby home, because you're like not, either you're not working or you're like at home all the time and you're just like you feel like you're doing the same things over and over again, because you're like feeding and you're changing diapers and you're like sleeping and then you're getting out. It's like so repetitive and you're like, dang, I feel like I'm doing nothing, but you're actually doing so much work, like you're doing so much and it's okay to ask for help. Like it's okay to like it's okay to feel like you're not okay and it's okay to tell someone that Because your hormones are crazy and it's hard, the whole transition is really hard and that is okay, shouldn't be ashamed or scared of that. I feel I was and I didn't ask for help and I feel it made it worse because I didn't tell someone that I felt that way.

Speaker 1: 50:31

Yeah, well, it's like it's easy to feel lonely. So I feel like the best thing to you can do after you have a baby or after you're pregnant is to like I don't know. I feel like babies actually adjust really well to whatever you want them to do, and I think we're like in our society it's like you have to change your whole life to like mend and like be around this baby, but like babies are actually really flexible. Like Eastern was a really good baby and I really feel like if I wanted to like go to target with him, like I could go to target with him and I could put him in a stroller and like in his car seat and he probably would have slept and he probably would have been okay. I could go out to the park and I could walk with him.

Speaker 1: 51:11

Like there's so many things I feel like we get scared to do, but if I would have like continued to do them when I after I had him, like I would have been fine and it would have been like good to get out more and like babies are like babies will be okay, like they'll be good, and I think we're like in this like I don't know where, like get on the schedule and take a nap at this time and then they eat and they take a nap at the but like it's not that serious, like it's not that serious and I don't know.

Speaker 1: 51:39

So maybe some babies are like, but Eastern was like so easy. If he's tired he's going to eventually fall asleep and like not having him on, like the strict schedule like has made him I feel like independent and he still sleeps really good, like he still is a good baby or good toddler, however old he is now, like you're so big, but yeah, I don't know. Just doing the things that, like you still did when you were, before you were a mom, like is important and like your baby's going to be okay. If, like, you want to either go do that and leave your baby with dad or with family or whomever you trust, it's okay. But it's good Like I would like go and get my nails done and be like I just gotta go, like I just gotta go sit somewhere and not be here for a freaking hour or something.

Speaker 1: 52:24

Go to the grocery store and be like somebody, get out of the house, but yeah.

Speaker 2: 52:28

I don't know.

Speaker 1: 52:29

I think just trying to continue to do the things that you did before is important.

Speaker 2: 52:34

So yeah.

Speaker 1: 52:36

What was the last question I was going to ask? Oh my God, this is a weird question to end on. But the question when can you have sex again after a baby? I think that's so funny because everyone's like what do they say? Six weeks.

Speaker 2: 52:53

Mm-hmm. The doctor says six weeks?

Speaker 1: 52:55

Yeah, that's crazy. That's how I mean. How long did it take you to like six weeks? Yeah, I'm like I think earlier I think it was like I was too scared, I was really yeah. Because, I mean, I'm a type of person like I follow the rules and I listen to what doctors say. Yeah, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm going to mess something up.

Speaker 2: 53:22

It's going to hurt or something Like I was so scared.

Speaker 1: 53:25

I was not, I don't know why. I think because I felt so good, like I had the best recovery. I was like I'm good, like really, after two weeks I was like not bleeding anymore. Yeah, I was not. I didn't have sex oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: 53:40

No, no, but I know it was like very close to six weeks. But after two weeks like I wasn't in pain anymore, like I felt good and like I might. The bleeding had stopped and like I felt okay or like that fast. So I felt like I coulda. I didn't, but like I felt good enough. And then, with the C section, I was more scared after the C section because, like everything was so tender on my stomach I was like I don't want you to touch me because, like I don't want you to like touch my incision or I don't want you to like do something wrong, the wrong way, or like grab me or like you know, like it's just like it was.

Speaker 1: 54:12

The whole thing was sensitive and I'm like you're going to like accidentally like pull me the wrong way or like something and you're going to touch it and it was very tender for like a long time. So it took me like at least two, at least two months, maybe three, probably closer to three, to feel like comfortable and it not feel like it hurt, to like touch it or like it was like tender. So it was harder for sure after the C section, I think, to like get back into it. Plus, like I felt like my body, like I didn't like my body as much because of my scar and my like the way, but they, the way that they like I don't know if they even sew you up, but the way that they like close your scar up is like so intense. It's like I felt, like I felt fat because like they pull it so tight that you just like feel like you have like an overhang like on your incision. But it's really unfortunate because it's only like that, because I'm not fat, like I'm fairly skinny, like I feel, like I felt like I looked fat because of how tight it was and I was like dang, is it gonna be like this forever which, by the way, like massaging it helps with that but like for the first oh my gosh, how I guess the boys are almost six months for the first, at least four months, maybe even five just like recently, like it started to feel and look better, but like I was just insecure. I'm like I'm not even, I'm not even in the mood to do anything because I feel like I don't look good, like I don't like the way I look. I don't.

Speaker 1: 55:38

And I'm like the type of person I'm like I have to be feeling myself to like, yeah, get into it. I'm like like just someone, be like you know what I do it. And I'm like it's not you, it's me, like really it's me. And I'm like it's not that I'm not attracted to you, it's that like I have to feel good about the way I look. Yeah, like I'm not that well, like not usually doing in the dark, but I'm like I don't know why you don't see it. Like I don't want to look at it myself, I don't want to see it. We're just going a lot better. But I'm like it's just different because I had already had Easton and didn't have to go through that. I'm like I don't like this. It's not the same. But yeah, that was a lot of information, but yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was hard, it was hard.

Speaker 2: 56:19

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:21

I think so. I mine was six weeks. Some people are different, my mom, literally. I feel like, for everyone's sake, you should just wait though, cause I have a lot of friends that like do it right at six months and they're, or six weeks and they're pregnant again, like right after, and.

Speaker 2: 56:35

I'm like cause you're so yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:37

I'm like, don't. I'm like, for the sake of just like making it through, don't do it. It's scary, like I don't know. It happens all the time. Yeah, they tell you like I do remember that they're like be so careful, yeah, yeah, cause that would be the like use condoms, be on birth control times two and definitely pull out very early. I'm like, oh my God, we're doing all the things, but yeah, it's scary. I'm like, no, no, it's, it happens to a lot of people.

Speaker 2: 57:08

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 57:09

And then you're just like I can imagine like having a baby and then being pregnant six weeks later. Oh no, I would die.

Speaker 2: 57:21

That's a lot.

Speaker 1: 57:21

Literally die no, couldn't do it, couldn't be me. I guess it could be if it happened. But no, no, you also could probably said couldn't be me with twins. Yeah, you did it. Yeah, you're doing it.

Speaker 2: 57:31

Yeah, I guess it could be me, I guess it could be me, I guess it could be me, I guess it could be me, I guess it could be me, I guess it could be me, I guess it could be me.

Speaker 1: 57:36

I guess it could be me. Yeah, it's fun, mmm.