Part 1 Unlocking Authenticity and Connection: Shay Blue's Creative Ventures from Card Games to Soulful Tunes

Embark on a profound exploration of modern relationships with the multi-talented Shay Shay Blue, as she joins us to unveil her innovative card game aimed at revolutionizing the dating scene. With her rich background as an abstract singer, entrepreneur, and author, Shay Shay dives into how her game's 150 questions are designed to ignite deeper connections by encouraging daters to peel back the layers and discover true compatibility. But it's not just for the lovelorn - this game is a catalyst for anyone seeking more meaningful human interactions.

We also weave through the complexities of romantic bonds, emphasizing the necessity of understanding one's partner beyond the superficial. By sharing personal anecdotes and insights, we uncover the surprising engagement of men in emotional exploration, challenging outdated stereotypes and emphasizing the value of confronting crucial relationship issues from the start. Shay Shay's game emerges as a potential safeguard against the heartache of mismatched partnerships, proving that the right questions can indeed save time and emotional investment.

Finally, the episode shifts to the broader canvas of personal growth and the delicate balance of juggling diverse passions. Through candid discussions, we celebrate the fusion of creativity and technology, and the ways they enhance our lives and work. Whether it's overcoming public speaking fears or embracing multitasking, the conversation is a testament to the resilience and joy found in pursuing a varied palette of interests. Tune in for a dynamic discourse that will embolden you to face your challenges with renewed confidence and curiosity.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:16

What's up, my good people? Welcome to the CJ Money Waste Show. Today I have a special guest abstract singer, entrepreneur and author. Welcome to the show Shay Shay Blue. How you doing, shay Shay?

Speaker 2: 0:30

I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Blessed to be here and see another day.

Speaker 1: 0:35

Thank God, thank God, thank God. You know, if it wasn't for him, then none of us would see another day. You know, I heard a guy well, I ain't going to say a guy Wise man told me once before. He told me this. He said son, he said whatever you was looking for yesterday, if you didn't get it yesterday, as long as you're able to see today, whatever you didn't get yesterday you possibly can get today. But if I don't wake up today, then that which I was looking for yesterday I wouldn't get it either. I still wouldn't get it. So, as you said, blessed to see another day, all right. So, um, before we get started, you got any new projects or anything you're currently working on that we can look forward to?

Speaker 2: 1:30

right now I'm really trying to push my dating card game. You know, and I the reason why I did this, it came from the heart y'all. Like this is not just something I just decided to do. I feel like there's just communication missing, and not just with dating, but other things too. But I decided to start off with dating and then I'll go into the other things. But I just started this card game because I want people to find the right person and be able to vet their partner, you know properly, and ask the right questions.

Speaker 2: 2:01

And sometimes people are shy. You don't want to lose a person or whatever, whatever it may be, or maybe they're blunt, they just don't know what to say and I feel like these questions 150 questions will help people get to know each other and see, okay, is this person for me and you know, check the values and what do you believe in, and see if not only are there commonalities but also is there things that we just don't agree on as far as values. Like you know, like I mean, you might be a Christian and I might be a Buddhist and maybe we don't, maybe we just don't want to do, don't want to work together.

Speaker 2: 2:32

I mean you know, these things are important to ask about because people think they know somebody, they think they know them, yeah, and you really don't know what you don't know, you don't. You think you know but you don't know. And the point is, if you do know some of the questions, that's great. But it's a way to open the door to spark other questions, to spark conversation, to sit down and really dive deep, not just about job, not just about you know, working out or, if this is diving deep and figuring out, what's going on with you emotionally, who are you? And so dating assassin's card game is is that card game where you get to assassinate their truth, and that's what the you know.

Speaker 2: 3:07

Facts are the enemy to the truth. I got that from you know a famous philosopher, which I forgot his name, but. But facts are the enemy to the truth, and that's why I call my game, that's why my slogan is assassinate their truth, because we're not trying to beat anybody up, but we just want to know who you are, what's going on? And some of these questions do dive deep and some, some questions are light, some maybe just be, and it might, it might seem like, but it's not, because pets are important. All these things tie into a relationship and people don't even know that and I had to learn that over the years. Watching other people, things I've been through, I was like man, I should ask this why did we ask that, you know? So I just feel like this card game is gonna be huge if I get. I'm just that's what I'm trying to push it get out there so people can really see the value in it, not be scared to ask questions and learn so, okay, I'm glad you went into that.

Speaker 1: 3:56

Well, I'll put it like this glad you went into that, not glad you went into that, because that was a question that I was going to ask you. But, thank you. So you say you're trying to push it out there. So is it already on the market?

Speaker 2: 4:09

I feel like you know more official when it's trademarked so it's trademarked.

Speaker 2: 4:13

I got trademarked last year, so datingassass is out there, datingassasscom. It's also on Amazon. Of course, I'm trying to website's king, so I always want people to go on the website. But if you go to Amazon, leave a review for it, sister, because it helps me in the algorithms, it helps me grow and you know, because I'm funding this myself, I don't have partners, I'm all by myself and it's hard. So and I want to help people, I want to see people grow and I want to see things change and so yeah, so yeah, it's out there.

Speaker 1: 4:42

So yeah, so I'm going to check it out. When we get done, send me a link, you know, so I can put it in my show notes and promote it myself. Now I guess, listening to you because that was going to be my question to ask you, you know what was this dating card game about? And so, just listening to you, so do these.

Speaker 1: 5:07

Is this game because, as you say, we get into our truths and you get into things that, like, you say, uh, you may know, you may think that you know something about somebody, and then you come to find out that you don't know something about somebody and you know. Sometimes, when you get into situations like that, especially when you get around around friends say like, like, uh, it's, it's a, it's a a few of us playing, and you start asking questions that you don't know nothing about, you start making you rethink your relationship. So I guess my question is is this the type of game that will spark some debate and some questioning on why are we together? Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, you're going to learn today, you're going to learn today.

Speaker 2: 6:04

Oh man, because I I had a disgruntled customer on amazon get upset with me, one customer because he was upset, he he felt like that.

Speaker 2: 6:13

he said the relationship is over before it started you know, and I feel like I'm happy he got disgruntled because it let me know that this works. Because you got upset about the questions Because maybe the lady you're with didn't like what you said and these questions are simple questions that you need to know. If you're, if you try to be serious with somebody, you need to know and so, yeah, I don't think you should play it for everybody, like if you, if you really trust the other couple, you can do it. Like I had a married couple play it. They said they wouldn't mind playing it with neighbors. So some people you know it's not for married people, but married people do play them because they just think it's fun and then you know sometimes you don't know who you're married to.

Speaker 2: 6:48

but if you don't, even you know you might not know a few things, but yeah the this one married couple did say they played it with some neighbors and they they didn't mind, I guess, answering in front of each other. But all I gotta say is that, yeah, you ain't emotional, intelligent, you know, and you kinda nervous and squibbish probably you know you ain't gonna be playing in front of other people. You might just be somebody for.

Speaker 1: 7:13

However long and there's still a lot of things that you may not know, because there may be some things that have never been brought up, that you never really thought about. You know in detail which it seems like this game is bringing about but, like you say, it may not be for everybody. It can start sparking some fights in the house.

Speaker 2: 7:36

I'm ready for the smoke because I mean I thought it saved some lives because you know, like I tell people, relationships are life or death. You know, if you get the wrong person they can kill you. So you want to make sure that you are getting to know that person and asking these questions and I just didn't want it to be something smush-smush, not just, I wanted to dive deep and that's what happened. And there's a lot of games out there to dive deep, but this one is going to dive deep in different ways. You know, like I say, everybody has their own lane, like we're talking about with podcasts, and that's the way it is for the card game. And you know, there's a little bit of game element in it.

Speaker 2: 8:13

Like basically saying, you know, if you see somebody squeamish and doing like this when you ask them a question and like looking in the over, like you can be, like you you've been assassinated but not saying you gotta stop the game but, that makes us stop and say what's? What's why you so nervous to answer that question, deal? Or why you so nervous to answer that question, charrette? Yeah you know, it makes you think, because if I asked you, have you ever been on parole? And you can. You look at me like this like no one's trying to judge you.

Speaker 2: 8:38

I just want to know if you've been on the wrong. I just want to know about you, and if you're looking crazy, then why are you trying to hide it from me? What did you do? Are you insecure? Like this is what I mean, diamond Deep. It's not, in fact, what you did, it's just why are you scared to talk about it? If you're trying to get with that person and be serious, you know, so so it's just one of those things.

Speaker 1: 8:58

So I think I'm going to take the, I'm going to buy it and I'm going to. How much are you selling it for on Amazon? Let the people know.

Speaker 2: 9:06

So Amazon is 24, I think it's still $24.99 on Amazon, yeah.

Speaker 1: 9:10

Okay, see, I'm going to buy it and I'm going to open it up first and then I'm going to look at the cards that you got to ask first before I put it out there.

Speaker 2: 9:24

Amen, I advise any man that buys this game to do the same thing before you get caught in a pickle. I'm telling you I mean most men. I'm going to tell you, most of my buyers are men.

Speaker 2: 9:42

And the funny thing is this People was like oh, you're going to, this is going to be for women. No, most of the people that buy my game are men, are men. Most of my followers that I've garnered on social media are men. They are men like games. Naturally, they want to play a little game. It's not really a big game. They want to feel you know they like that vibe, but it's like yeah, they don't know that.

Speaker 1: 10:03

Also, you're going to some smoke if you can't handle it, hey, like, hey, let me get my mind, let me see if I'm with this right person. You know, and I'm gonna get off of this on on this one, because I just did something earlier today, because you said something that that sparked that, because you said relationships can be life or death and a lot of times. What I was talking about earlier is that we waste a lot of time in relationships as well, when we know that something is over with and we're just still in it, and time is something that we really can't get back.

Speaker 2: 10:36

You can't get back. You can't get back, and that's what I've learned. That's why I created these cards. I was in a really tough relationship and. I wasted my time and I could have been, you know, further ahead, but I'm over here ignoring the red flags, didn't ask the right questions because I was scared, and that was six years ago, but I still feel like, no, I can't, I can't do this and I can't let anybody else do this. So I have to figure out how can I help people, because that was a hot mess.

Speaker 2: 11:03

I've been through situations like that. You know where I dated somebody and didn't ask the right questions. It turned out oh, this person got a short-man conflict. Oh, this person is just not emotionally intelligent. Oh, this person is insecure. You know just so many things that you just didn't know. You know so.

Speaker 1: 11:18

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Shay Shay Blue. Nah, I can imagine. Nah, I've been through your profile, I've been through your profile, I've been through your bio and I can just imagine that it's probably a lot of I'm gonna say a lot of guys like that, but some people that probably intimidated with a woman who has or wears so many hats, that does so many things so, and that being what is actually an abstract singer well, direct soul singer is a singer that doesn't confine herself to just any genre, like, for instance, I'm black, so they'd be like, oh, you're r&b singer right you just automatically gotta be r&b singer or gospel and I think that's boring.

Speaker 2: 12:15

So you know, my thing is like I'm not gonna going to do that. So what I do is I mix John race together so I might do jazz in R&B, I might mix folk with soul. I just kind of do whatever the heck I want to do.

Speaker 2: 12:28

Because, before I got into anything else, I was a music artist and that's all I did. I didn't do anything else for music growing up and I kept getting tired of major labels and major you know certain people around trying to tell me to be at a time rihanna. You know rihanna was out. I love rihanna, I love alia, all them and they, everybody said you're just gonna be, you just gotta be like them and you know you gotta do what they do. And I liked them and I did, but I just I started to become curious about what else. What else could I do? What can I do for me?

Speaker 1: 12:58

what if I want?

Speaker 2: 12:58

to be in my own lane. So I started doing experimenting and stuff and I came up with my own genre and I said abstract soul singer, because my voice is soulful with anything I sing. I noticed that. So I'm always got this soulful energy about me. So I was like, let me just do um, abstract soul singer, so then I can just make people think and not put me in this box when they, when they talk to me. When I say I'm a singer, I don't want to be in the box so what's the what?

Speaker 1: 13:25

what song? What can we get you? Is it on apple? Is it on apple it's?

Speaker 2: 13:29

on all streaming platforms. My first album I came out with I was 23. It's called limitless. Then after that I did a few singles, so champion is out there. That's on all streaming platforms. Uh, player hair is my latest single. That came out 2022. That's on all stream platforms. And um, I got some more music coming out too. I just updated my equipment in the crib, so I'm about to be cranking them out now.

Speaker 2: 13:56

You know, when you get older, you get more confident you know when I was in my 20s, I was like let me just, I mean you know, and I just like that's not fun. I just didn't have fun with music at that point. So now I'm older, now it's fun, this is fun. Now I can actually do what I want to do, I can experiment, I can, I can paint the freaking canvas the way I want, and so and I just want to help other artists get there too, and that's why I feel like I'm an artist activist, because I want other artists to feel comfortable, to just be themselves man, because the music game's changing anyway um.

Speaker 2: 14:28

I've seen so much stuff in the music industry in my early 20s from artists that I would watch and they were so talented and they would not sign them because they wanted a cliche type artist or they wanted somebody with more followers. But they will always say that that person was the better artist, but they wanted the artist with more followers or look better. You know stuff like that and you're like huh, I thought this was about talent. So I had a rude awakening at 20 when I was in the office with an artist and they told him they told this artist he was good as like Nas, he was like a Nas but artist. And they told him they told this artist he was good as like Nas, he was like a Nas, but they couldn't sign him because he wasn't popular as Nas. You know he wasn't. So they signed like at the time it was like Soulja Boy was the type of artist they were signing and no, nothing against Soulja Boy, but we still need both type of type of artists.

Speaker 2: 15:12

But they said they, they just they couldn't, they couldn't see it because he wasn't that type of rapper they were looking for. But yeah, I mean, it was just that. So that to me was the first time I said you know what?

Speaker 1: 15:25

no, yeah and create your own lane. So you say yeah, the latest hit that you got.

Speaker 2: 15:32

I heard you said champion and player hater yeah, so the latest, yeah, latest one was player hater is the latest one I put out. Player hater um, that one I actually that's that song I actually produced myself. Like that was the first song I did, recorded by myself, because a lot of times in the past I was with somebody in the studio or just I reminded, recorded vocals at home and sent it and then let them kind of, I guess, push me the way they want. I think that the player hater was like that stamp, that mark of new situation, where I was just like a new person, like okay, this is me now, this is something I did and, honestly, that song's the most popular which is weird.

Speaker 2: 16:11

uh, player hater is one of the most popular, and chocolate man chocolate man came out a long time ago. I actually produced that one too, that one too, but I was in the studio with somebody, but I still was the producer. I'm still the owner of that. I created that beat in my head, basically. So Chocolate man and Play it here are my favorite, and I just got some more coming.

Speaker 1: 16:34

Anytime, a song called Player Hater. I'm going to check that out. I'm going to check that out. I'll be listening to that. When we get off today, You're going to have your new follower. Where can we follow you On Facebook Instagram?

Speaker 2: 16:50

You can follow me on Facebook Sequoia Blue Instagram. I am Sequoia Blue, also Spotify, and all them is Sequoia Blue too. Now I do have a website, so I am trying to. I do have a website, sequoiabluecom. But, um, if you're just streaming, yeah, I'm on Spotify, I'm everywhere, because I was gonna take my music down at one point, but then I realized you know what? I just people need to find it and. I don't take it down okay. I'm gonna keep it.

Speaker 1: 17:17

I'm not going to take it down. Okay, I'm going to keep hitting. So tell us you know. I heard you say you're an artist activist and things of that nature, and I heard I was reading where you talk about these things on your podcast. So tell us a little bit about your podcast.

Speaker 2: 17:31

Well, blue Hawk of His Podcast man, that came about. I think you know what. This is a crazy story because the first time I started podcasting I was 22 years old. I needed a way to release, I guess, some creativity because I didn't have my own studio and I started on Blog Talk Radio back then. And back then I was Sequoia the Revolutionist and my goal was to help indie artists and just motivate people. I was trying to push indie artists because I was kind of irritated with the industry. I felt like they were trying to change people too much. So I started then. But then I got shy and I was like I got off.

Speaker 1: 18:05

How can an activist get shy?

Speaker 2: 18:09

I was like, oh, so I went back into a little turtle campaign.

Speaker 1: 18:17

And I said let me get off here, and I let Mark talk and then it kept pulling me.

Speaker 2: 18:23

It kept pulling me podcast and kept tugging at me my shirt and I was like why? Why I feel like I'm pulled to do this so fast forward to maybe five years ago. I got back into it. So when I moved to la well, actually, you know, probably when I was about to leave la, so probably 2019, 2020 I started getting back into it again. So I started talking about everything like my life and what I felt like society and culture and things I see in synchronicities and stuff like that.

Speaker 2: 18:48

And I said well, let me just help people. Maybe I can help people with my journey and talk about what's going on. So if I saw a movie, I might talk about the movie and talk about how I felt it had something to do with life and how it came. You know, I just I'm a movie, I'm a movie girl, I love movies and tv shows. So a lot of times I talked about on my podcast to kind of tell you something, because I think movies and shows tell you something, and so I was on there, I started doing that and um, and yeah, so that's that's my podcast. I really just interview different people, um, but also I talk a lot by myself too, so you might hear me just talking about what I've experienced, what I'm learning and and how can it help you and inspire you. Because my whole point is to hope, hopefully, help somebody avoid what I went through, yeah, and maybe help them challenge their perspective I should call it because perspective is everything yeah, I mean, I totally agree with what you're saying.

Speaker 1: 19:41

I'm a movie TV addict myself. I binge watch a lot of stuff. You're talking about somebody that can quote some movies, some classics. That's me. Even in my conversations I gotta quote a movie. I'm like like on Life. They say they can tell from the way I walk. I ain't quote a movie. I'm like like on life. They say they can tell from the way I walk. I ain't from around here. So that's my thing. And, like you say, podcast is an outlet and so there are times too.

Speaker 1: 20:12

I just started something on Wednesdays where, because I was listening to one of my mentors talk and a lot of times, you have to give your audience and your listeners a piece of you, let them into your life and feel a part, to know you. And I started off like that and, like we was talking earlier, I did interviews. I started doing the interviews and so something was just tugging at me. You have to let people in more so into your life. You know, because, like you said, the experiences that you had and I remember I told you that's why I started off with, I wanted to start off with men. That was, that was gonna be my whole concept, because I didn't want men, especially young men, to go down a path that they really don't have to go down, because you can think things are fine and your life is just great and everything on the outside looking good, but, man, you just steady digging a hole for yourself and you don't even know it, man, you're not aware. Yeah, them pitfalls, you know. And if I can help anybody from going into any of them pitfalls, then I just feel like that's something that he has commissioned and called me to do. And so who am I to say no, I don't want to do that, you know, I don't want to help nobody else. I, that's, that's just me, that's just my heart.

Speaker 2: 21:38

No, that makes sense. That makes sense, because I felt that way too. I was like man, I got to do this. It's like a calling.

Speaker 1: 21:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because, like you, I've been dibbling and dabbling in podcasts, calling myself doing podcasts since 2013, but I just finally pulled the trigger to do it and so you know I don't know if you have done this I tried to bring other people into my vision and we were going to do things together and see, like, sometimes, when they get to the monies, when they get to the monies, people stop. Get to the monies, people start falling.

Speaker 2: 22:21

That's why I didn't even get anybody because a lot of people they're just focused on the money and I get it. I mean, I know it's time, but I'm doing this for a passion. If you focus on the money, it might not be what you want. It takes a while to get brand deals, Not necessarily money for sponsorships and things like that.

Speaker 1: 22:38

It takes a lot to get brand deals not necessarily money for sponsorships and things like that I'm talking about, like for equipment and stuff. Like we'll get together and be like okay, well, we need this microphone or whatever. Nah, it's like you get crickets. We ain't came through and got the, you know, got the blueprint together and got the plan together. We ain't got the vision board and everything meeting.

Speaker 1: 23:02

But when it started coming down to people having to give in that money, it turned to a whole different ball game. They got to really want it. Huh, they got to really want it, you do. And so I got pulled to the side and I had to start. And you know, it made sense because I thought about that too and I was thinking of, you know, because, because I'm a, I'm a bible reader, I put it that way and and so it's this one story that's in the bible and I kept reading it over and over again.

Speaker 1: 23:37

And sometimes in life, when God gives you something, don't mean that it's for everybody else. There we go, or that they can't understand you. They can't understand your dreams and your visions, you know. And so you're trying to get them to understand it, but it's not for them, and so you know. So you have to start understanding and realizing that this journey is your journey and people will see the end of your journey. But we're going to talk about that too, because that was a good question. You had a question on that and I going to talk about that too, because that was a good question. You had a question on that and I want to get to that. But everybody's journey is not your journey and you can't let people knock you off of your journey. And so, with that being said, with being a podcaster, an actor, a singer, an activist, that was out of her shell, went back into her shell. But now, back out of the shell. An entrepreneur, a model which one? I'm not really a model, I don't know why.

Speaker 2: 24:47

Because I had somebody write my thing, my bio. I do not want to.

Speaker 1: 24:53

I don't know what's going on here. So he's like don't put that on me, okay, scratch the model. Scratch the model, I'll take it off, but there's still a lot of hats that you wear. So, out of all of these hats that you wear, which one are you most focused on right now, and why?

Speaker 2: 25:13

Oh man, so it sounds weird, but two things or three things can be true at the same time I learned that.

Speaker 2: 25:19

So I am. I, my podcast is active, so I'm doing that. My music is still active because, well, I always, mark I, promoted using artificial intelligence music, I mean artificial intelligence art. So I'm still pushing that and I'm still writing songs. So, and then my card game is active because it's online and it's selling. So those three they're all active all at the same time. Um, none of them are losing steam. I mean, is it hard? Yes, but um, it's getting done. And I know how to compartmentalize and say, okay, on this day I'm doing this and on this time I'm doing that, you know, and that's how I get things done. And so, and I realized that's how I thrive. Because there was a time where I used to listen to what everybody said Don't do this, don't do that, don't do all this stuff and I didn't make. I wasn't making what I wanted to make financially, I wasn't feeling fulfilled because I was listening to other people.

Speaker 1: 26:14

But when?

Speaker 2: 26:14

I started just doing what I want to do. I started seeing myself feeling fulfilled inside, my heart feeling full. I started getting opportunities, you know, making more income, and so I realized that maybe my journey is multiple things and somebody else's journey may not be, and that's OK, but I was like I can focus on these three things and I else's journey may not be, and that's okay, but I was like I can focus on these three things and and I can thrive on it because that's just, I guess, a part of me you know, I asked another young lady that I interviewed not too long ago and I asked her you know far as multitasking because, like you say, she does a lot of things too.

Speaker 1: 26:52

She says certain things that you prioritize and things of that nature and everybody like, like with me and you know, just just podcasting alone and doing the things that you do. There's a lot of multitasking that you have to do because you know you got to automate this, you got to edit this or get this or delegate that, eliminate this and people tugging on you from promotion wise, this is that. So it's a lot of things that you just have to put in order. Then you got, you know, as you said, then you have business opportunities and partnerships and things of that nature. So I mean it's a grind. I'll put it like this it's not for the weak.

Speaker 2: 27:41

You gotta really want it, you gotta really want this and like it. Because I swear, because even just doing music by itself and you know, back when I was just doing that, that was a lot because you had to find people you can trust you it's just best to be a boss you know what I mean when you are trying to do things. Own your own equipment, do your own thing, pay for your stuff, because if you don't, it's going to hold. That is what holds you back, you know, is that you don't have what you need. But if you have what you need, then you can set time to do what you want to do. You can take time and because you're the boss and that's what that's how I felt like when I learned that at 25 I said I just I said I need to be the boss, I need to get my own stuff.

Speaker 2: 28:18

And that's when I started going down that route and I had to get in tech. And I didn't want to because I like technology, but I didn't know I would fall in love with tech. I fell in love with tech. I it was like my side piece husband. Music was my first husband. I said I'm married to music. But then when tech came along, it became a side piece and I I fell in love with it and I was like, wow, I really like tech. And it multiplied my income and people at the time was like you're supposed to be focused on music and and, uh, you just, you don't know how to focus on one thing. Blah, blah, blah, and it was getting on me and stuff and I I said, you know what? I asked God, what should I do? And my intuition and I got an answer and I took that tech training. My money multiplied, I was able to get my equipment, I was able to do what I had to do.

Speaker 2: 29:06

I was able to experience LA. I would not have been able to live. But tech, tech, was that that door? And then also, guess what tech gave me? Gave me confidence. Tech taught me how to speak in front of people. Tech taught me how to be uh, it forced me to speak in front of people because you have to talk to people, you have to do, you have to think critically. So it taught me how to think critically, how to, how to. It just taught me a lot. It kind of opened that door and it just taught me a lot. It kind of opened that door. And I remember my mentor at the time, monique, was telling me that everything is connected to each other, everything's working with each other. And I that helped me be better at podcasting, because then I wasn't a bit scary to say, okay, let me try to figure out this software, let me learn video editing. It was like, oh, I can do that, now I'm in tech.

Speaker 2: 30:01

You know, you get more power.

Speaker 1: 30:05

I agree with you too, cause, like I, you know, I was saying I started off in 13 and power director I don't know if you're a power director the software, yeah well, you do video editing and stuff like that. So, like you say, uh, I was just, you know, it was just interesting to me just to put things together and and try to make a movie and try to do this. And so when iMovie came on the iPhones, that was simple. You know, that's easy to do, to put this together and that together and whatnot. And, like you say, your mentor told you and I truly believe that is things that you're doing at the time that you don't realize that it's going to be beneficial, but God begins blending all these talents that you have together for a greater good.

Speaker 1: 30:57

Like I've always been able to, I've never been shy to speak in front of people. You know, I speak at church and things of that nature. You know, even when I was coming up in school, I was in drama and and things like that. So I've never had that type of sadness. And now, you know, here it is, years later, and I'm doing this because I never had that fear to get in front of people and talk to people. It was the other side of the other things along the way. Like I said, 2013 see, the thing was I wasn't ready.

Speaker 1: 31:35

Well, yes, see there you go, there you go. That's how life be for us. Sometimes we can be ready for something, but we not ready.