Part 2 "From The Kitchen to The Catwalk: Suzette Hayes, The Empowering Podcast Host Redefining Style and Taste"

Unlock your potential through the vibrant worlds of makeup and modeling with our special guest, Suzette Hayes. As a renowned fashion icon, TV host, and professional makeup artist, Suzette shares her invaluable insights into her upcoming ventures, including her talk show "Simply Suzette." Learn how her journey in the makeup industry is a testament to the power of continuous learning and hands-on experience. Suzette underscores the importance of platforms like YouTube for aspiring artists and the significant role of proper licensing.

Embark on an exhilarating trip to New York City with us, where Suzette graced the Wendy Williams Show. Hear thrilling stories of navigating unexpected hurdles like flight cancellations and the surreal experience of being recognized by Wendy Williams herself. Discover the joy of seizing opportunities and the inspiring encounters with various celebrities and industry professionals that made this trip unforgettable. This chapter exemplifies the beauty of surrounding oneself with successful and inspiring individuals.

Finally, explore the transformative power of fashion and elegance on confidence and first impressions. Suzette provides practical advice for dressing appropriately in professional settings and tips for achieving a polished look. Reflect on how timeless elegance and authentic fashion choices can enhance performance and self-assurance, drawing inspiration from Deion Sanders' philosophy. This episode is packed with personal anecdotes, practical tips, and inspiring stories that promise to motivate you to elevate your style and confidence.

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Speaker 1: 0:16

Unlocking potential, one dream at a time. On the CJ Moneyway Show.

Speaker 2: 0:23

Sit back and relax. You're listening to the Moneyway Show. They're over there where the concession stand and stuff is. They over there playing cards. I don't know what else they be doing over there, but that's a whole lot of stuff to do. When you say you're going skating, that's a lot to do when you go over there, though, but it's fun, and if you've been gone for a few weeks, hey girl, I've been missing you when you been.

Speaker 1: 0:42

It feels so good when somebody's missing you Ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha.

Speaker 2: 0:53

Welcome my good people.

Speaker 1: 0:55

Welcome to the CJ Moneyway Show, and I'm with your host, cj Moneyway Show, and I'm with your host, cj Moneyway. Let's get it. What's up? My good people, welcome to the CJ Moneyway Show, and today I have a special guest on with me today TV host, fashion icon, runway model and professional makeup artist, and a lot more. So welcome to the show, suzette Hayes. Hey, how you doing, suzette Hi?

Speaker 2: 1:24

everybody, hello, hello, hello.

Speaker 1: 1:26

Hey, glad you can come on today. Glad you can come on today. So before we get started, I'd just like to ask you are there any projects that you're working on right now that we can look forward to in the future?

Speaker 2: 1:37

Yes, I've been working for a while on a talk show. Talk show we're going to show you how to do things. A lot of times, people know how to do things and they don't want to tell you about it. I'm going to tell you all about how to do whatever it is you're trying to do. I don't care if it's fashion, I don't care if it's getting a job, I don't care if it's entrepreneurship. We're going to talk about how to do things to make your life better, and the name of that show is going to be called Simply Suzette S-Y-M-P-L-E-E the other simply got stolen, but S-Y-M-P-L-E-E Suzette. And then I'm going to do a podcast. That podcast will be kind of a free-flowing one. We're going to talk about things that are in the news. We're going to talk about local news, things that are going on specific topics and a lot more. I know a lot of people in a lot of those areas and they would be instrumental in you learning how to do the things that you want to do.

Speaker 1: 2:32

Oh.

Speaker 2: 2:32

Get some good information.

Speaker 1: 2:34

Okay. So yeah, I look forward to that. I look forward to that. So you say you're a makeup artist, professional makeup artist. So can you tell us, like, what goes in to being a professional makeup artist?

Speaker 2: 2:46

Like I said, work-oriented Suzette, what I think? I believe that, being a makeup artist, you have to really, really constantly study, because makeup trends change all the time. It helps also. I'm a professional. I'm a professional hairdresser, I'm a cosmetologist a licensed cosmetologist and those are some of the things that they teach you in school Not a lot, but a little bit. It helps to be in the industry. If you can go and do, you can start off doing your friends. But, like you said, the research is key though. The research is key and it's real important because you get to learn a lot just by doing it. They have YouTube now. They didn't have that when I was doing it, but now YouTube is a university on how to do anything you want to do. Also, it helps if you put yourself out there to do events, especially events, primes, weddings and stuff like that, and you keep it constantly, keep your cards with you, because people always want to know how to get in touch with you and how to do it.

Speaker 2: 3:49

I tell you what I had a friend. She had a daughter, and her daughter was a plus-size girl, a big girl, and she stayed in her room for two years. After school, she'd come in her room and stay in her room for two years. After school she'd come in her room and stay in her room for two years. I said what is she doing in there? And she said I don't know what she's doing there. That girl came out of that room after two years. She was a bonafide hairdresser. All she needed was the license and she did it. She has clients that come as far as South Bend to here to come get their hair done. She is awesome, wow. Also, my name is Angel Woods. She is awesome. She is awesome. I mean, she can do anything. She can do anything and she does the best too. So, like I said, now YouTube University is the best place to go to find out how to do anything, but it's nothing like the hands-on, and you got to get licensed too.

Speaker 1: 4:37

Okay, if I can ask you just to piggyback on that question. So, as far as being a professional makeup artist, what inspired you to do that? You know from the beginning.

Speaker 2: 4:47

Well, let me see I I, like a lot of girls growing up, didn't have a lot of um, there wasn't a lot of resources for me to do that um. But as I got older, like in 20s, that was when I paid attention to the people around me. I paid attention to ladies that I worked with, I paid attention to, I just paid attention to a lot of magazines, because we had a lot of magazines when I was coming up. Ladies I worked with that was so sharp and it was so together. Ladies like Dolores Johnson, like Samella Johnson yeah, sam was the one, sam, I don't know, sam's your mom, but she was so, so, so, so together and I just admired that so much and I wasn't like that.

Speaker 2: 5:30

So one day I went to an Oprah Winfrey show when she first got started and I got to look at Oprah Winfrey and I looked at her. I said, dang, she, big as me. So I just to look at Oprah Winfrey and I looked at her and I said, dang, she, big as me. So I just started looking at each individual thing and I started trying to see how it could fit me. So, like I said, that's kind of how I got started with wigs and makeup and clothes and stuff like that, and I just love it because to me it's transformative and it takes me to be another person, it takes me to another place, to be a different kind of person every day okay, so tell us a little bit about your professional modeling career.

Speaker 1: 6:09

How did you get into that?

Speaker 2: 6:11

again. My mom is was. It was classy. She passed away in August. My mom was classy and I had, like I said, I always was seem to be around a lot of people that were like that and I just kind of wanted to be like them, I just kind of wanted to emulate them a little bit and find my own way Again at the bank was the place where you got to see everybody.

Speaker 2: 6:34

Everybody used to dress up and go to the bank and go to work and stuff and I got to see that to the bank and go to work and stuff and I got to see that I've always had. When I was five years old I had a teacher named Sandra Wilkes she's Sandra Gentry now, but Sandra Gentry was my kindergarten teacher and she had the meanest catwalk I'd ever seen. Just come, just walk it. She wasn't trying to, she was just walking and me and my mother sitting in the car. One day I said mommy, she walk good? She said yes, ma'am, she sure does. And I just started copying her walk. But then when I copied her walk it looks different on me than on her. So I got a chance to, I started looking at her and I started wearing heels. I tried that and I just kind of tried a few things to see if it worked. And one day I was at the bank working and this lady told me. She said you know my daughter has a modeling agency. She said I think you would be so good. I said what Modeling? And she said yes. I said oh okay, she said, meet her at the mall. I had to go to the mall for an audition. I'd never been on one before and her name was Gretchen Garcia. Gretchen had me come to the audition and she was kind of scared because she didn't know what God had sent her. But it was me. So when I did it, I did it and I got a chance to be part of the agency. I did all the Southlake Mall shows. We went to Atlanta once.

Speaker 2: 7:55

I've been to Chicago a lot. I've done the Chicago Apparel Center where the buyers come and shop for clothes and then they buy the clothes in the showroom. I've done showroom modeling. They buy clothes in the showroom and then they cut an invoice for $200,000 or something that I've had on and then they send it to all the stores. So that's how I got started. It's just all about I wasn't scared then. I'm kind of scared by stuff now, maybe because I'm little, but I wasn't scared.

Speaker 2: 8:21

My mom actually got a chance to come to one of those shows and I asked them. I said would it be okay if my mom come? Because these are all the audience, was all buyers, and so I said, would it be okay if my mother come. They said yeah. So I said okay. Now when you come out on the runway, those runways are real professional shows. You have a dresser, which is a person that helps you get dressed and zip up your clothes if you need a safety pin, all that kind of stuff. And it was a real show and they had the long tables with all the jewelry on it and everything. So I was coming out there and it's all dark out there because I don't see nothing on the runway. I don't see anything. So all of a sudden I heard somebody say who's that? That never happens at the runway show.

Speaker 1: 9:03

That's my mother.

Speaker 2: 9:08

She was happy to see her girl out there doing her thing. But she was so proud and she said I was sitting there and those people asked me what store are you from? She said I'm not at the store. My daughter's a model. They said your daughter's a model. She said I'm not at the store. My daughter's a model. They said your daughter's a model. She said yeah. She said well, we're going to see her. We're going to see her. She said yeah. So that was well, that's me on my modeling thing, but I love to do that. Again, you know, it's just, it's not about me so much, but it's just about showing people that if I can do it you, they make clothes big enough for everybody. That's no excuse for anybody to be ill-fitted at all. It's just about you have to have the intuition, you have to want to do it, you have to want to do your research, you have to want to try.

Speaker 1: 9:49

Yeah, that's one to grow on right there. So let's pivot a little bit and go to your.

Speaker 2: 9:54

I've been doing it for 40 years. How about that?

Speaker 1: 9:57

Wow, yeah, that's longevity, right there, that's pivot from your modeling career and the makeup artist for a second, like your current career. Right now you say that you're a program specialist. What do these, what do this consist of?

Speaker 2: 10:12

I didn't know that was a thing until they told me.

Speaker 2: 10:16

I work at Costco. I've been there two years. I got in January. I got the Employee of the Month Award. I have the Employee of the Month Award. I have the Employee of the Month Award that gets me a parking space. That gets my name on a plaque on the wall. And I was at work one day and I'm the same with everybody I said what the fuck? Y'all got a plug in the middle of the wall for. But you'll see. And I said, oh, they're going to put a TV up there. It's going to run the sales so you can see what's on sale. The Employee of the Month was Suzette Hayes and I had the picture up there and it stayed up there for about a month and a half because they had to get the Employee of the Month. They had to get the rest of it up straight now. But they had a picture up there and it had Suzette Hayes Employee of the Month. So that's one program.

Speaker 2: 11:01

The program that I was doing good for was we sell stamps and I meet no strangers, so we're selling stamps I've made about. I probably sold about maybe $8,000 or $9,000 worth of stamps. Then they had me selling sunglasses designer sunglasses. They said they'd never sell any. It's a truck sale. They never sell any. They just want people to know that they sell. They never sell those glasses. I sold 40 pair last time and those glasses start at like $100 a piece and they just came and they bought them. So they called me the program specialist because those stamp and the stamp program and the sunglass program is something and they kind of made up for me because they wanted to sell it.

Speaker 1: 11:52

So that's what they call me. So so you, a seller, you can, you can get it. Hey, that's awesome. People don't even get in trouble now, that's awesome. So, um, tell us about your time working at channel seven news, doing commercial tv and all the other things that you was doing there. I know that had to be an exciting time too.

Speaker 2: 12:10

Yeah, you know, channel 7 is my favorite channel. I only did one thing on Channel 7, but I have a friend. Jose Sanders is my friend on Facebook and he does comment, he does talk to me.

Speaker 2: 12:21

I didn't think he really, you know, paid attention. I don't think nobody ever paid attention to me, but evidently he did. He really, you know, paid attention. I don't think nobody ever paid attention to me, but evidently he did. He sent me a message and he told me that they were going to do a promo for Channel 7. And I said, oh, that's okay. So he said send in your photographs. I said okay, so I sent it in and they picked me.

Speaker 2: 12:40

So I went to Channel 7. We were in front of Children's Hospital. They were doing it was a vegetable, a vegetable garden fair like, where they sell a lot of vegetables and stuff, and we're right across the street from that. So I still have the pictures of I'm seeing, you know, of us doing everything, and that thing came up for like three years. They thought I was still doing it. I said it's only one commercial, that's all. And all I got to say was Gary, indiana, that's all I said. And evidently people remembered it. So it was a lot of fun. That was really a lot of fun and it took my mind off of other things that was going on in my life then, but it was really, really a lot of fun. I went to New York City on my 50th birthday to go see Wendy Williams.

Speaker 1: 13:27

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2: 13:27

It was an experience. I went to see Wendy Williams on my 50th birthday the first time I made my plane. I called and made the call to see if I could come as an audience member, and so they said okay. They said well, where are you coming from? I said I'm coming from Gary Indiana. They said is that like from Chicago? I said yeah. So they said, well, where are you coming from? I said I'm coming from Gary Indiana. They said is that like from Chicago? I said yeah. So all the flights got canceled that week. So I went the next week. So I called back. I said, well, can I still come? They said yeah, so I went. I'd never been to New York City before. I'd never seen the stuff that I'd seen before.

Speaker 2: 14:03

The sidewalks are like this small from the door and it's like they don't have garbage cans and I said, oh, they got a lot of squirrels. They wasn't squirrels, they were super rats wow so I got there before all the people. I got there like 5.30 in the morning. I slept in the airport because that was during the time they had bed bugs in the hotels. I didn't want to stay there, so I stayed in the airport.

Speaker 2: 14:26

I changed my clothes in the hotels I ain't going to stay there. So I stayed in the airport. I changed my clothes in the bathroom and I got glamorous and went to go see Wendy Williams. So when I get there, the guy told me. He said when you get here, let them know that you're here, tell them to ask for me. So I said okay. So when I got there I said Phil said for me to let you know. So I said okay. So when I got there I said I forgot his name Phil, phil. Phil said for me to let you know that I was here. She said he went back and said okay, hold on. So he came back and said come on, cut the whole line Lines right around the store, right around the building.

Speaker 2: 14:57

So I went in, I got a chance to sit in the green room and they had donuts and Pepsi and milk, donut holes and it was a really cute green room and I got a chance to go and sit in the front row and then when I sat in the front row, everybody could like see me. That was when Christian Seriano first came out and everybody's dancing and everything and everybody's laughing and singing. And so she came out and so she was talking to some people on the right of me and I thought she out, and so she was talking to some people on the right of me and she came towards me. Now I thought that she was going to go past me, but she came right to me. She says is your name Suzette?

Speaker 1: 15:34

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:35

I said yes, it is. She said you came from Chicago to see this show. I said yeah, I did. She says wow. She says we're going to take good care of you, okay.

Speaker 1: 15:51

Favorite ain't fair. Favorite ain't fair. I'm just sitting there thinking about that.

Speaker 2: 15:55

Most people in the audience think that I'm like a celebrity. I'm not. I'm just here to see the Wendy Williams show because I'm 50. And I got time to go. She says are you going to come to the second show? I said I think I got a plan. She said you won't be long, you won't be late. I said that's all okay. I said to myself I could probably catch another flight or something, that's all okay. So the audience got ready to go. She said okay, everybody stand up in the section, I tell you. So the first section stood up and another lady came and whispered in her ear and she said okay, everybody sit down. Suzette, you come on. You got a plan to catch.

Speaker 1: 16:39

Wow, wow.

Speaker 2: 16:42

It was amazing. I hang around a little select group of people that know celebrity and my best friend, trafina Johnson. She's a makeup artist for Channel 9. She's amazing. She gets to see all the people. I got a chance to meet Michael Collier and talk with him and help him sell his stuff when he was here. He was just amazing. I've met so many people. Byron Cage I've met him before. I met him at a live recording for an album. It's just the circle of friends you hang around. That's why I tell people I love to hang around people that's doing better than me, because that gives me room to grow and to aspire for the good things. So that's my favorite people story.

Speaker 1: 17:25

Yeah, my favorite people story. That was a good one, how you doing.

Speaker 2: 17:34

I was like what? And that was when she wasn't sick. She wasn't sick. Then she was real tall and she had a car here. She had like five-inch heels. They was what. Did my finger say Five-inch heels. They was tall and she had to have a guy to walk with her so she wouldn't fall. They was that tall.

Speaker 1: 17:47

For real and she already tall.

Speaker 2: 17:50

Yeah, she was already tall. She's about About 6'4" 6'5".

Speaker 1: 17:56

So when you went into the show and like you say favor, ain't fair and everything so it made you forget about all them big old rats out there in New York.

Speaker 2: 18:10

I'm telling you you should have seen them. They were huge. I thought they had long tails. I thought they were long. They didn't have garbage cans, they were just like going to breakfast that morning I was in the garbage can in my garbage bag and they don't. They don't. They don't cover up nothing, anything that wasn't wrapped up. I didn't eat it. Shoot, I had a good time not a great time that was a great time for me.

Speaker 2: 18:31

It really was. It really was. I got to see the Isley Brothers, the Isley Brothers wife he was back in the other room One of my friends in that circle. She's one of the background dancers for the Isley Brothers, Lene Atkins. She's not Atkins anymore, she got married, but Lene Lene dances for the Isley Brothers. So, like I said, it's all about if you, you know you have to be with some people that got some. You can see the people that have aspirations to do things and choose, hang around folks like that. There would be no need to hate on nobody if everybody just kind of got together.

Speaker 1: 19:01

You know what I mean yeah, I know exactly what you mean, and I guess we'll say that for another day, because, because I do got a question for you and in the end I'm gonna ask you a question about that. So, uh, tell us a little bit, for for those of us that don't know what actually an image consultant really is, where does that consist of?

Speaker 2: 19:26

Again, I was for two years. I couldn't do it this past two years because I was working, but for two years I was the image consultant for the NAACP AXO program. Now the AXO program is a program that the NAACP sponsors for children or for young adults, for scholarships for college. And these people, the young adults that aspire to be people that receive these scholarships, they have to perform their craft in front of other people, the board, and I guess it's been a long time since.

Speaker 2: 20:06

I've been young, because you know you really have to really talk to them, tell them why it is that you're doing it. And I would tell them, you know, with little girls don't come in with your hair, all stupid like that. Let's get up to school. But you have to think about the audience who you are trying to impress.

Speaker 2: 20:22

You're trying to impress somebody, that somebody maybe like your grandmother's age, I'm going to say because mothers are young now, but maybe something like your grandmother's age and the guys with these extreme haircuts. I'll look quickly. I said you can do that at school. If somebody at school tell you that they're sharp, you need to change because it's wrong. If the people at school think it's sharp because you know you should just be, you should just dress in a way, to where you. You should dress in a way, and I gotta say this you should dress in a way where you should be noticed and notice, then you're not looking like everybody else.

Speaker 2: 21:00

You're not looking like everybody else and just like the little girl was playing the piano, I said it would look so nice if you had on a formal. She was going to wear a little dress, because then people have the attention on your legs and them shoes up under there. Wear a formal. I said wear a little crown thing or some pearls. So we did that in Chicago. And then there was a couple of other guys. The pants were too short, can't do that. We got to give me a pair of long pants and a pair of pants that's big enough, because they're wearing little skinny pants. They're not looking for that.

Speaker 2: 21:28

They're looking for somebody that's just like them. They're looking for somebody just like them, and that's how you get the scholarship. That's how you get the eyeballs on you and not everybody else.

Speaker 1: 21:37

Oh, that's cool. That's cool. So you was doing it for the NAACP.

Speaker 2: 21:40

You say the NAACP the Gary chapter.

Speaker 1: 21:44

Okay, and so this was like a program, as you say, like they were looking for people, so these to get scholarships and to go to college and things like that. Oh, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 21:57

It was a lot of fun too, because they really did listen. They really listened. I said if you all really really want this money, I said you got to step it down a notch and listen to what people are telling you. I said they've been telling you all for a couple of years that you need to do a few things and don't take it back like you're doing something bad, because that's where young people are. But you have to dress for your audience.

Speaker 2: 22:25

I always tell people when they um, when they get late, when they're getting dressed, you only have five seconds in which to make a positive impression on anybody guys, people anyway, five seconds. If you got a lot going on here. You got glass, you got eye makeup on, you got lips. Like you know, nobody has the time to really look at you and see who you are because they focus on so many other things. That's why I come when I tell I was talking to another girl. I said, if you like, today I chose to wear this hair. My lips ain't going to be red. I'm not going to have shiny lips. I'm not going to have my glasses on. I'm not going to have shiny lips. I'm not going to have my glasses on. I'm not going to have. You know, you have to pick something, as I call it. You have to pick something that's going to be the star of the show. It's going to be either my eye makeup or my lips. It's going to be my eye makeup Two things.

Speaker 2: 23:06

All you got to do is two things. You only got five seconds. After that, they're going to lose interest in you. Stop at the aisles. You got to stop at the lift. They got to stop at all these big areas. They got to stop everywhere and you don't have time for them to focus on who you really are. They too busy. What you look like.

Speaker 1: 23:20

So do you still do this consulting in any other form besides the NWACP?

Speaker 2: 23:27

I have not been asked to do that. No, like I said, the makeup part. Sometimes I've done a couple of girls for Cotillions. What for cotillions? What is that? Cotillions. I can't forget the name of them Guys and Dolls. Is that it, guys and Dolls? I've done a couple of makeup sessions for a couple of girls. It's nice, it's really nice, to see them all dressed up and they look nice. You don't have to have packed on makeup. It's the makeup for the girls for me. But for the guys, you don't have to have packed on makeup. It's the makeup for the girls for me. But for guys, you know, if you're going to have shape, you're going to have a mustache, shape it up. You might have to go to the barber shop, or maybe to somebody that's a barber, and get yourself shaped up and everything. It doesn't hurt for you to get a facial If it gets your face all together.

Speaker 1: 24:13

it doesn't hurt, because I can't walk around with all that scrub. It'd be itching and everything.

Speaker 2: 24:19

So I've always I've got big, old long beards and stuff. I said that's okay to have. I said, but just, you got to keep it trimmed. Yeah, for them to notice that, oh, that's a nice. They look at you, oh that's a nice beard. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 24:31

Ooh, you got a beard. It's a different. I'm telling you, it's a different. What'd you say? You only got five seconds. This is a five-second rule.

Speaker 2: 24:41

Next time you see somebody, check out what. Next time you see just anybody in the street, just look at them and that's the first thing you're going to be done looking at them in five seconds.

Speaker 1: 24:50

Well, you know, back in the day it used to be and I guess I still keep that same mentality it used to be First thing a person look at, especially a woman, a man or a woman going to look at, is your shoes. They're going to look at your shoes.

Speaker 2: 25:08

Hey, you only got a grand set of shoes, but they're going to tear your face apart, your head and your outfit apart. Because I've seen, I saw a lady the other day. She had it's a white lady, she had red hair, it was green on the ends, she had on yellow and black glasses, she had on eye makeup, she had on long eyelashes, she had pink. It was too much, it was. It abides me. I said I said it's too much.

Speaker 1: 25:36

I just stopped looking at her. Yeah, I say it's too much. I have to stop looking at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we in a society at that age now where it's overkill If it ain't big or you know messy or you know whatever glamorous, so-called glamorous it ain't popping. But I'm old school and, like you say, I'm not doing no skinny jeans, no skinny pants, no weight. No, how you can't. Yeah, no weight. No, how I'm not doing. No skinny jeans, no skinny pants, no weight, no, half. You can't. Yeah, no weight, no half.

Speaker 2: 26:00

I'm in a place for everything. I just believe I'm in a place for everything and I think that elegance, to me, elegance is never overdone. If you go to some place and you're overdressed. I mean overdressed. Overdressed is never overdone. You go to some place and you're overdressed. I don't trip about it, I'd be like y'all should have been dressed like this.

Speaker 1: 26:21

Hey, when you want to go out and look good because when you're looking good, you feel good- Any gift you want, I love Deion Sanders, love him.

Speaker 2: 26:33

Deion Sanders says if you feel good, no, if you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you play good. You play good, they pay good.

Speaker 1: 26:46

Hey, that's one to grow on. That's one to grow on. Hey, they pay good, I like that. Yeah, I like Deion. I like what he over there doing in Colorado with some of our success this year. I like what he over there doing in Colorado with some all success this year. So, outside of work, what are some of the things besides the makeup and the image consultant thing? What are some of the things that you enjoy doing outside? Bye.