Conquering Anxiety to Construct an Empire with Josh Parish

Have you ever witnessed someone completely turn their life around and wondered how they did it? Josh Parish joins us to recount his remarkable evolution from being an overweight and insecure kid to becoming a real estate titan and the innovative mind behind the GetUp Gang. We delve into the critical role of mindset in overcoming the hurdles of self-doubt and anxiety, and how Josh's formative years fortified his resilience. His journey offers a unique lens through which we explore the larger struggles men grapple with in today's society, highlighting the transformative power of embracing one's own path to greatness.

Transitioning careers can be as daunting as it is liberating, and in this episode, we share our own stories of professional metamorphosis. From my shift into delivering impassioned messages to Josh's move from the culinary world to personal development, we examine the essence of replenishing oneself and fostering meaningful relationships. Delving into the mastery of asking profound questions, we provide listeners with the keys to unlock personal growth and build genuine, fulfilling connections—the true markers of a life of significance.

As we round out our conversation, we reflect on the indomitable power of taking decisive action to achieve one's goals. Josh and I explore the relentless commitment needed to reach the zenith of any field, paralleled with his own fitness and business accomplishments. We discuss practical strategies for goal-setting, the wisdom of learning through action, and the critical importance of self-reflection. Wrapping up, I extend an invitation to our listeners to continue the conversation and journey towards positive personal transformation through engagement with my work. Join us for this episode, sure to inspire and equip you to take the reins of your future.

Key moments in this episode:

03:57 The Hero's Time: Embracing Change and Growth
05:51 The Power of Reinvention: Overcoming Challenges and Adapting
13:24 The Power of Mentorship: Accelerating Your Journey
13:56 The Master Key: Building Rapport and Commanding Respect
16:51 The Get Up Gang: A Journey to Self-Improvement
35:54 Conclusion: The Power of Self-Reflection and Taking Action

How to reach Josh:
Website: http://thejoshparish.com/
Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/thejoshparish

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

You know, what does it take to be successful in life? I would have to say it starts with having an unshakable mindset. Now, to get that, it's gonna require us to win the psychological battle of overcoming self-doubt, fear and anxiety. And it can touch that pill to swallow. It can be really tough, I should say, to spill for us to swallow, like for many of us, and when we have to face these realities. But what if you're the kind of man who is interested in finding out just what your limits are, then what do you do?

Speaker 1: 0:28

Today? My guest takes us through a roller coaster ride of his life as he blazes a path for all of us to follow. Now, before we wanna get into that, I just want you to know that being a man today has never been more challenging, and so the pain that we feel is real. It's a pain of loneliness and unworthiness, and it's masked by our anger and our resentment. And it's all because we're uncertain, we're afraid to take that next step. So if you're tired and fed up of where your life is at, then I'm gonna encourage you to start your hero's quest, where you can become more, accomplish more and live more than ever before. Go to memberswakenmannet and start your quest today. And with that, let's get on with today's episode.

Speaker 2: 1:08

The average man today is sleepwalking through life, many never reaching their true potential, let alone ever crossing the finish line to living a purposeful life. Yet the hunger still exists, albeit buried amidst his cluttered mind, misguided beliefs and values that no longer serve him. It's time to align yourself for greatness. It's time to become a revolutionary man. Stay strong, my brother.

Speaker 1: 1:33

Welcome everyone to the revolutionary man podcast. I'm the founder of the Awaken man movement and your host, alan DeMonso. What was the turning point in your life and how was that turning point shaped you into the man you are today? Has this turning point made you stronger or has it made you weaker? You know, all of us kind of crossroads in our lives that shape us into the men we are. Sometimes we like what it has done to us, while other times maybe not so much, and it's that mental battle that we constantly deal with. And if you have the tools to master the psychological warfare that's going on in there, then there's absolutely nothing that will ever stop you. So today my guest is gonna share how he's transformed his life from being common man to being totally and completely uncommon. So allow me to introduce my guest.

Speaker 1: 2:21

Josh Parrish was born in South Alabama and he grew up spending most of his time on the baseball diamond, in the summer months harvesting and selling watermelons. His immediate family moved from state to state about every year, and so he has his stepdad rose in the ranks of the major clothing retailer. So moving family right and always being the new kid in school, you know, overweight and dripping out with the latest Tommy Hilberg year. Josh caught flak from many of his peers, and while most would see this as a setback, he saw it as an opportunity to refine himself over and over again.

Speaker 1: 2:56

Now, overly observant of underlying power dynamics and hyper conscious of the mortality and obsessed with psychological warfare, little Josh was far different than your average child I'm sure we're gonna hear a lot about that today and so for many years Josh was imprisoned by his own mind, suffering crippling anxiety due to his perceived by his father's cold and the manipulative ways. So today he sells millions of dollars worth of real estate annually. And not only that, he's a founder of the get up gang and we're gonna touch on that today and forever grateful, because for those lessons Josh wouldn't be nearly the animal that he claims himself to be today. Welcome to the show, brother. How are things?

Speaker 3: 3:37

Man I'm doing well. That was a heck of an intro man. I hope I can keep up with that, but I'll do my best.

Speaker 1: 3:46

Yeah, man, you're already there. Buddy, we're just scratching the surface of your story. I'm just really looking forward to this conversation. I love the work that you're doing and how it all came about, and so, as you know, when we get here at the Revolutionary man podcast, the opening questions always gonna be about a hero's quest. That time in your life you know and you knew things had to change. What did you do about that and how did that shape experience, shape you into the man you are today?

Speaker 3: 4:13

Man, I've had a lot of turning points throughout my life. I've pivoted so many times and you know, I would probably say, initially, the first moment that I knew that I wanted to be different was, man, it was seventh grade and at that point I had already developed my curveball, but because I was overweight, I was new in this school and I went out to tryouts and well, they didn't give me a second look because, well, I was a fat kid and kind of. I mean, you just don't command much respect on the athletic playing field whenever you're an overweight kid. And I knew from that point that they didn't give me my fair shake because, well, of how I looked, and I started working out like a madman at that point, yeah, so I mean, that was the first time that I was really. That epiphany hit me.

Speaker 1: 5:09

So yeah, those are always tough times, right? I think back when you're just going through your history and reading about that, and my family didn't move as much as it sounds like your family did. I do remember, you know, going into transitioning from grade eight to nine, I think it was, and going into a bigger school, a new school, and you know you were the new kid in town and so for me I literally that grade, that next grade year, that grade ninth grade I had to fight my way to respectability. And you know I'm not saying I'm not going to sit here and say that that I want that. I want all my fights, although I won a lot of them by at least a block and a half, and and I think it's important that it those experiences do shape us, and so tell us a little bit more about this. You know the traveling and having to start and reinvent yourself all over again and how that played a part into what you're doing.

Speaker 3: 5:59

You know something you just said. They're really stood out to me and and yeah, you're right, it is a fight to gain respect, whether that's when you're by yourself and you do the work when nobody else is looking, or you're actually in front of folks and you have to do something that you know commands respect, and there's a lot of things that we can do before we ever meet an individual to command that respect, and that's, you know, refinement of you know, our studies and our minds, and then how we present our bodies as well. So, so, so I just had to. I had to say that. But okay, so explain that. Say that question one more time. I apologize, but I had to get that out.

Speaker 1: 6:40

Yeah, no, I really appreciate that. If it struck a chord, I'm grateful for it. Now, I was just thinking about all the times you had to reinvent yourself, and every time you're your family moved, you had to go through the same things over and over again, and so I wanted to talk a little bit about how. Have you tell us a little bit about how that you started to refine yourself and your process to really have that, and you talk about it being in this psychological warfare, and so I thought we touched a little bit on that right now.

Speaker 3: 7:06

Well, you know, moving from school to school in elementary, middle school, high school, I knew that I was going to be hit with a certain perspective. And, you know, if you see, if you see enough of a situation that no longer becomes chaotic, which if a kid just moves once in their school career, then they're like, oh you know, it was traumatic. But if you do it a dozen times, then you kind of know what to expect. So, just going from, you know, maybe on the first day I won't wear something super, you know, outspoken, you know, like an orange sweatshirt or something, or you know, or maybe I won't have this hairstyle going forward, or maybe, you know, maybe I will go knock that one kid in the mouth that's the baddest person in the room just to go get it.

Speaker 3: 7:49

So it was just, it was always. It was always like, okay, so how can I shift the perspective of the room? Or and I wasn't necessarily a troubled kid growing up, but but yeah, I mean it was my mind always drifted to leverage points and the powers of the room and that's helped me over the course of my life. But but yeah, I mean if you, if you stick your finger in a light socket, you kind of learn your lesson pretty quickly, and I've. You know there's been times in my life where I've definitely have had my losses, but I honestly think that you'll never have a loss if you can take a lesson from it. It's our perception of what's going on, what has happened and how you're going to operate moving forward. So I don't necessarily have a great example of how I necessarily transformed throughout school, but I definitely know that I did it plenty of times and, like there was, it was a cumulative effect and I definitely have taken it with me.

Speaker 1: 8:46

Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and I could, and I could, you know, get the sense that you know as you develop more and more skills and really what it sounds to me is like you really started to be able to develop the skill of understanding people and the situations and being able to look at that and and then from there also sounds like you've been also been able to really refine how the, the stories started to change about who you are who you are as a boy and as a young adult, now as a man, and so you know today let's fast forward today what's alive and real for you today, like what's the? What's what made? What does a great day look like today for Josh?

Speaker 3: 9:26

Great day. This is a wake up and you know a journal a little bit and then do my exercise and my gratitude and and then I'm providing value to the world. You know, whether that's through online post or I'm making cold calls and providing, you know information to people that didn't know you know about their houses. But you know, I've been selling real estate for like the last four years now in Florida and have had decent success, but am I super passionate about it? Even though I'm pretty good at it, it's like, oh well, nobody's building a statue for me, you know, for built for selling houses. So just a couple of months ago, I decided to really drop the hammer and throw everything at my coaching and public speaking. So, because I know I've got a message that needs to get out there, yeah, absolutely, brother.

Speaker 1: 10:14

I totally can relate to that. I was I've been a career chef in my in my life and then moved to working in you know, we'll call it the front of house and and while I there was a time in my life where I was really passionate about it. It's at that stage where you know this is way, this is. This is much more impactful. Needing guys like you and talking about the things that need that we need to do to be better as men, you know, as people, and so I can totally relate with what you're saying and wanting to lean into this part. So let's talk about, about what you're, what you mean by this, replenishing the well.

Speaker 3: 10:48

Yeah, man, it's the ultimate way to maintain a relationship, because relationships are reciprocal and when someone cares about you, they're going to pour into you. But if you never pour into them, you know, in return, then that other person is going to feel stripped. They're like I'm just over giving to this person that doesn't care about my experience and me personally. Now, I know I'm not a fan of these modern terms, like I don't know gaslighting and stuff like that. I don't know what that means, but, but the friend recommended this book to me by brain Brown, or anyways, it's about what's the term?

Speaker 3: 11:28

Anyways, I over, I over give. Like I whenever I find someone that I'm really enjoying and I think that they provide a lot of value. Like I tend to over give, right and well, that's not necessarily a recipe for success to, because not everybody's going to return the favor of over giving, but it doesn't matter. You know you should give without expectation of receiving, and at the end of the day, though, you're going to have to replenish the will, no matter what. Know that you're, you're going to stand firm in your values and providing value and to always be topping off the tank instead of. You know, just take, take, take, because some people smell takers from a mile away and if they don't, then they're going to quickly realize hey, this person's a taker and you can never return from that, from that stigma or that you know that title of entitled.

Speaker 1: 12:25

Yeah, I completely agree, and you know, I just made a note here, talked about that over giving, and I find, as men, that we tend to do that and we, and the way that the term that we like to use around here is that we become people pleasers right, it's always about giving, giving. And then, you know, it makes me and then at times it makes me wonder, well, who, who, who replenishes the giver. You know, and some of that is where our work to do and some of that has also in the relationship that we choose to surround ourselves with. And it sounds like you've been being able to start to figure that out and you've been, you know, shifting that, the, the model around for to help, to help yourself and help other folks that you work with, really understand that key piece. And so tell me, is that, is that what you would call the bit of the start of building your master key for for what the work that you do?

Speaker 3: 13:11

Well, I would say, I mean, it is a foundational pillar, absolutely, I'd say that the the master key to you know just throughout life. Well, there's a couple of master keys. One master key is getting a mentor. You know someone, someone that that knows that you know exactly what you want to do and you know, by getting a mentor, you can accelerate your your path by 10, 20 years just by hanging out with them for just a little while, and then you know. A way to get a mentor is one figuring out what they need before they ever have to ask it Right.

Speaker 3: 13:47

But whenever I talk about the master key to build rapport with someone, especially someone that may be in a higher position than you, is asking for their professional opinion, because everyone, everyone loves to give their opinion on things. And if you can cloak it as a professional opinion, well you're. I mean, you've just get, wrote them a ticket to just like tell you the juice and you know if they're, if they're, feeling human that day, then they'll give you an answer. And then if you can ask penetrating questions that are solid, not just like superficial Google questions, oh, they're going to love you for that, because a lot of people are scared to ask the master, the mentor you know the path and to ask them good questions. They just you think that people get asked some questions all day, but really and truly they're asking Google questions, like before they even get started stuff. So and that's when you sicken the master and you don't ever want to do that, because then they'll just write you off.

Speaker 1: 14:42

Yeah, what a great perspective. I like how you put, how you frame that. You know, not asking Google questions, you know and you know, and really wanting to ask those, those, those deeper questions about them. And I also appreciate and you're absolutely right, even for myself, and how often that, even today, being afraid to go ask somebody that I would consider, you know, a mentor or potential mentor, and understanding that they're human, like us and they want to share. They. Everybody loves to tell their story, everybody wants to share their knowledge and if we're there to be able to to your first point about how can we provide value to them, I think that's such a great way for us to really grow and expand ourselves, really put the put that extra juice into our lives, as you, as you mentioned.

Speaker 3: 15:25

Yeah, and you know the thing that, because it took the master, if they didn't get a mentor, it took them a lot of their life to to develop what they have, and if they're going to bless you with that portal to accelerate your journey to I mean, take you to the mountain tops within the first few steps, they want to know that you've adequately prepared to handle that information. Because I don't know where it's at in the Bible, but don't cast pearls amongst wine, right? Because so many times in life I'm just I'm talking to a person and I'm like, oh yeah, I've encountered this before here. Here's do this, and they're just like sounds great, and like they never do anything with it, even though like they could just have done that and just eliminated everything and move forward. They, the masters and mentors, do not want to see you just forget about or just not, not, not, not even be worthy of what, of what they just told you. So, yeah, I was trying to make that kosher, but all good, brother, it's all good.

Speaker 1: 16:32

But you know and you mentioned another really important word there. I think we chat, we, what we challenge ourselves with, is that worthiness is is up for ourselves, and we have to recognize that we're completely worthy of many things, and I'm saying that more for myself than for the audience, and so it's a great point that you're putting, you're putting together there. So you've you've developed this program called the get up gang. Tell us a little bit about that, how that came to be and what its purpose and how it's serving people today.

Speaker 3: 17:00

So, even though I've been a salesperson my entire life, for the last I'd say, almost 20 years, I've been helping people with their health and fitness practice, and it's mainly the mindset, you know. And then. But when I started that journey, I realized that one, most people didn't have hardcore fitness goals like myself. The majority, if, if you know, are not really interested in fitness at all. And then the way that the information is presented online, even though there's an abundance of it. It's so confusing and there's such a mass amount of it and it's over complicated, it overwhelms anybody. That just doesn't know how to do it. And then, you know, most people just kind of do their version of it. But what the get up gang is is it's a free online community that presents highest return on investment, action items that you can do for your fitness and your health. And it's still under development, but it is live. But yeah, man, I mean, I've just I've taken years and years of training and because people, people, even though we're all unique, issues run like a template, right, there's, there's different templates for different people. You know, you see, like these doppelgangers, where this person on this side of the world looks like this person. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's people's problems too, right, like, we are all unique and there's different, you know, combinations of things, but ultimately it's patterns and templates.

Speaker 3: 18:28

So, and what I've taken is just like taking really complicated or seemingly complicated information and just boiled it down to the most simple action items that, if you don't have a dime to your name and you're, you know, just totally disempowered, state, injured, that you can implement this stuff and just start from where you all have and just start from where you are and start gaining momentum with these incremental wins, because it's not about hopping on a track to it's not. It's not about hopping on a brand new track. It's about going from where you are, taking that first step and seeing how you can win in the moment, and doing it again, and doing it again, and doing it again. Because I could, just I could hop off and say, hey, alan, here's how you become this. And you know, you know, you can eat chicken and rice, you know, five times a day and run 10 miles and squat every other day. It's like, yeah, like well, who hasn't heard that? Like, let's give me some action items that I can take and internalize and then, like, put it into practice.

Speaker 1: 19:30

Right.

Speaker 3: 19:31

Yeah, that's just the. That's what I did with the get up game.

Speaker 1: 19:34

And that's very, really, really cool.

Speaker 1: 19:36

And what I really appreciate about what you're doing with that is is that you're like you said, you're meeting people with where they're at right and just winning in the moment.

Speaker 1: 19:43

And I think a lot of times that's what we struggle with right. We have this and that's where I, you know, in doing the men's work that I do and helping guys, you know, craft their goals and mission statements, and that is that there's going to be this disconnect a bit for where they were, where they want to be and where they are today, and then bring them back, like you're doing with people that well, today you might not look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, and if that's your goal, that's great. What can you do to win in the moment today, you know, and maybe it's not having that one, that one Pepsi, right, maybe it's doing one or two squats, but you're taking them to where they're at and I think that's so more so refreshing, as opposed to just a cookie cutter routine where they get an opportunity to actually learn and work with a guy like you. I think that is really phenomenal, well done.

Speaker 3: 20:30

Thanks, man. Yeah, reverse engineering is a heck of a tool. Like just to envision, like what it is you want, and then just start working backwards. But then you know, then your destination is where you are today. You know and then just weed out what you will do and what you won't do and then over time, like eventually, you'll figure out like, hey, is this, is that meant for me? Or can you start that reverse engineered journey and kind of land close to it?

Speaker 3: 20:58

Because you know I hate to say it even though I'm extremely seasoned in so many areas, like I very rarely hit any goals. And the reason being is because, like I'll start down a path 100 miles an hour and internalize the wisdom of the path at least up to that point, and then my goal shifts into like well, I've just refined what I really want, because at the end of this path, this isn't what I want, this is what I thought I wanted. But I mean, cuz I'm dude, I'm a ship, right, I don't know. I mean I know where I'm going, but I mean I could, I couldn't tell you, like, because I know it sounds crazy. But as you gain experience, you will reformulate. And if you don't, well then are you really conscious? I mean, you have you. You're living your life day-to-day and reality shifts, and ministerial ways, every single second.

Speaker 1: 21:52

so that makes complete sense to me, you know, and the reason why it makes sense to me is that I was just thinking back to in my life and making you know plans and goals and and, yeah, I didn't hit a lot of those goals either, but, boy, the transformation that went through and how was things start to shift and change. That that's really what the ultimate goal is. It's about growing and expanding who we are. Sure, ultimately, if you're really, you know, hardcore and then you want to be, you want to attain a certain thing, that's outstanding. But I, what was really, you know, resonating with me, is hearing you say that is that it's okay, you know.

Speaker 1: 22:30

And for our audience and the guys that listen, is that it's okay that if your goal shifts a little and changes, you know, I've heard it said that a that an airplane, even though it may be flying from I'm in Winnipeg here, so we'll go down to southern Alabama where you're at, and ultimately the destination is to get to Alabama, but it's off course 90% of the time, because it's always course correcting, always every moment of During the flight, it's course correcting. And if we looked at our lives like that, you know, we wouldn't have to put so much pressure on that. We didn't that, that we're not. We may feel that we're not achieving Our goals, and so what do you think about? That is then putting that together. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3: 23:05

It makes absolute sense because we don't live in a bubble. There's always going to be variables, to you know, on every path. And, yes, I mean we need to be persistent in the pursuit of what we want and our goals, but also show appreciation for the gains that we're making on that path, because it's not just like I'm starting this today and then in 12 weeks I've done all this work and then I'll receive it on the 12th week. For the most part it may be like that and some things, but but for the most part it's a building of the of the journey, right? So, yeah, I completely agree with you there.

Speaker 3: 23:45

A lot of people don't understand what it takes to be number one, and the difference between number one and number five is Is it's a way different? Picture like if it really is, and it's like. It's like also going from 15% Body fat to 10% to 5%. Like it, just the amount of work that it takes, it it's, it's far more like, it's far more extreme going from 15 to 10 and then from going from 10 to 5. It's it, I mean it's the work looks different, it's, I mean it's far more intense. And, yeah, so you have to really like if you want to be number one, something you have to completely drop the hammer and don't mind if everything else around you burns down like that.

Speaker 1: 24:31

Yeah, absolutely nothing. You know, nothing great in this world has happened with, with, follow it with, unless somebody is totally dedicated to it. And and so there's two sides of this of our conversation. Right, there's that focus. If that's the type of Indivisible you are, and then you're looking to to get to that point, then there's a there's a certain way to do that and a certain way to get there, and then you just follow that path and then, and then there's that other side of that coin and maybe we haven't yet committed, or we're not really sure. Not commit, it's not the right word, but we haven't really defined our goal enough just yet. But it's okay to course correct until we get to that point and we go.

Speaker 1: 25:09

Now I know what it is that I want and then, and then it's burned, the ships type of work and there's and I think that's really what you're saying is just to really get at it now. Would you say that would be the fat, the healthiest and the fastest way for people to Transform their fitness lives? Or do you have some other Secret sauce you wouldn't mind sharing?

Speaker 3: 25:29

well, you have to go all in on Warning that change and the rubber hits the road in the implementation and the testing. Right, it's not in the planning, because you could plan into oblivion. And all of a sudden you've spent five years, or however long, making this master plan and the ship has already sailed like it's a whole new situation. So I mean, yes, I know I said that I've never hit I mean I very rarely hit goals and that kind of made me sound like a bum but I would decide on something and Start taking steps immediately. Like I would have a good plan.

Speaker 3: 26:10

But you have to, like the the the path is lit as you walk it. Yes, so you can't. You can't just sit back and and and think of the path that you've never traveled and Try to plan for things that you don't know what's going to occur. Like you have to walk the path, you have to embrace that unknown. You're going to be scared and you're going to be self-conscious, but at the end of the day, like you just have to keep those promises that you make to yourself and know that you have your own back and and that's where I mean, that's where the magic happens you have, and that's being the general, that's you know you, you are actually, you're actually doing it right, yeah, so yeah, I completely agree and I think for sure.

Speaker 1: 26:53

I think you know it's obviously you've been achieving your goals over the years because of the work that you're doing now and in coaching and working with people on, you know, on the health and fitness side of their business. You know, and in the intro you know, 10 to 15 million dollars with a real estate annually is nothing to slouch out either. And so it all goes to show for me, and what I'm hoping our listeners are picking up from this, is that you know there's lots of different nuances to achieving things in life and we have to be willing to course correct, we have to be willing to commit, we have to be willing to to do the things to get us to that next step. You know, in the big takeaway I've got you just you know that.

Speaker 1: 27:31

You know the real mic drop moment for me when you talked about, you know planning is just not. You know planning is important but you can plan for five years and not do anything. It's action. We need to take action to do things and that's really what you know the work that you're doing is really saying to people is that you know what's that next action step? Was that next step that you can take?

Speaker 3: 27:51

Well, you know you can also run a hundred miles an hour in the complete wrong direction. So and I've done that before too so it's it's starting the path. But then, as you start to get experience, you start to see what works more than others. So that's where the highest return on investment action items comes in. And then you make sure that you do those those highest ROI activities first, before anything else. And then, because when you walk, when you work towards one thing, you work away from another, but you can also maintain other aspects of your life through Just the implementation of those those high ROI activities.

Speaker 3: 28:30

So I mean, you got to figure that out. But but yeah, if you, if you, if your goal is to build a business, then all of a sudden, like you're just making business cards for the next Three weeks. It's like, are you generating business? Are you just I mean yes, part as part of doing, you know, getting a business, like doing business, but like, or should you be building a business card for three weeks, or should you like be making calls and like shaking hands, like I don't know?

Speaker 1: 28:51

but I think we're all know the answer to that question right forget the business card.

Speaker 3: 28:55

Yeah, yeah. So you just got, you got to get to work, but then like working with things that matter.

Speaker 1: 29:00

Yeah, exactly, you know for sure. You know we get caught in that mundane side of life and just doing the things that you know think are important and they're and they're really Not that important. So you know of everything you know. When I think about your life and the you know the places that you've traveled and things that you're doing, I'm just wondering, you know what was a powerful question that you, that you were, that was asked of you, and how did that him, how did that question change you in some way, shape or form?

Speaker 3: 29:27

You know that's a good, that's a really good question. It kind of stumped me a little bit, so a powerful question that was asked of me. You know, just a few months ago I asked myself the question. It's like Josh, are you, are you, are you doing real estate to live a comfortable life or Are you actually going to pursue what you're meant for?

Speaker 3: 29:47

you know, and then like that really, and and man, when I make the decision to do something like it looks absurd to the people around me because I mean real estate treated me extremely well and you know, I mean people know me as a solid real estate agent like they.

Speaker 3: 30:03

They know I know my stuff. But but just to up and just to cut it off cold turkey and just be like, no, this is what I know, what I'm supposed to be doing, and you have to listen to yourself. I mean, you need to seek wise counsel but at the same time, like, you know what you're envisioning and, at the end of the day, nobody cares about your goals as much as you and nobody cares about your legacy as much as you. So I mean, either way, you're gonna be forgotten in a hundred years. But we're here now and your, your work is either filling you up or it's tapping your energy stores. And honestly, I didn't. I didn't want to be calling people every day like, hey, you know you want to sell your house, even though I loved it, but it's just like, oh, you know, like I'm, I'm not leaving the market, I want to leave.

Speaker 1: 30:47

So wow, what a great question. And to ask it of ourselves, right? They you know. Just think of it here for our listeners. If you're to ask yourself that question, am I doing to the thing that I'm doing today To just sustain my life, or is it, am I doing the thing that I'm truly called to do? What a powerful, powerful question, and One that number one takes guts to ask and number two takes even greater Fortitude to be able to commit to making that shift. And so thank you so much for Giving us that question, because it is a powerful question for us to ask ourselves. And you've done that and you started to make your shift.

Speaker 1: 31:27

I don't know about you, josh, but I'm. I started. I wasn't really a reader as a young guy, but as I got older and went through my my First major life event there in my early 30s, I started reading books, and so today I find myself, you know, consistently reading. So I just wondering is there, is there a book that you've that has really impacted you in your life and it is great? And tell us a little bit about that, or maybe also what, what it is You're currently reading today.

Speaker 3: 31:53

Absolutely, man, I got, I got a few books that I really enjoy. The first one, victor Frankl's man search for meaning that that book puts everything into perspective, like any time that you think you're having hard times, go read some of that and then you're, you're just like Mmm, like I'm not having a bad day. Yeah, that when he was talking about he could see when it was people's time to die just by the look in their eyes. That gives me goosebumps now. And and yeah, I mean, that's just that's one of the most powerful books that I've ever read. And then my favorite author, which there's some controversy around his line of books, it's Robert Green.

Speaker 3: 32:32

But 48 laws of power. And I was talking to my girlfriend yesterday about it because she had, she's got a boss that uh, you know, my girlfriend's extremely talented in the, in the realm of sales, and the boss hired her to be the heavy hitter salesperson in and there's their field. And uh, now there's, there's those feelings of like, oh, you just out shined the master right, so the mat, like the boss, is feeling like now girlfriends trying to overtake Her job, you know. So I was like, oh, you violated rule one, but yeah, that, that, if you can look at it from Just a very neutral. I Read that 48 laws of power book because you'll start remembering times in your life when you violated the laws and, yeah, that that book just blew me up.

Speaker 1: 33:22

So I love I, man, I love Robert Green stuff, especially the 48 laws of power, is phenomenal. Book man, just love that. And man search for meeting. And you know I'm listening to tell that story and I was getting goosebumps too, you know. And they speaking about just knowing when people are gonna die. And then let's just think about it today. How many times have we seen in our lives the same looking people who are dead to their lives, right there, the careers, the career is not going anywhere, maybe relationships are done or they've totally lost you know the direction for their goals and their dreams. And so that's to me is just as painful, maybe even more painful the death because you let relive that like Groundhog Day every day, and you know. So those are two outstanding books I think everybody, everybody needs to read.

Speaker 3: 34:10

I agree Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 34:12

Tommy. What was it? It must have had to sound. Along the way, you've had some mentors and people that have helped you get to where you are today. What was the best piece of advice that you've been given, and how has that served you?

Speaker 3: 34:21

I've had a lot of different mentors over my life. You know one it wasn't necessarily a piece of advice that I was given but my sixth grade teacher, mr Caldwell. He was in Menza. He was the first person that ever made me feel really smart and I guess, just because because I recently wrote him a handwritten letter the other day, I hadn't contacted him since sixth grade.

Speaker 3: 34:43

But but you know, like all these stories have popped out about how, if you like teachers positioning their students as geniuses and they're not really geniuses but then all of a sudden their, their, their work just is greatly enhanced just because they believe that now, like the kids believe that they're geniuses, so you can actually do that to the people that surround you, like you're just just with the, the verbiage that you speak to them, like it shifts their perspective, their perspective of self, and and then all of a sudden, like they love you because they are feeling like, like a genius because of you, like you didn't necessarily, but you're just pumping them up and and yeah, I mean, but so if you can figure out ways to like be genuine and pump people up around you, oh yeah, you're going to be. I mean, you do that like you're going to have some major, major sway on people. That's awesome.

Speaker 1: 35:37

No kidding, absolutely Love that. I love that you know and have even back and you know when you're in sixth grade to have teachers do that I think is pretty cool. You know, this is Josh. I've ever been. We spoke about today. Maybe there's something we didn't get a chance to touch on. What would be the one takeaway you would want our listeners to have?

Speaker 3: 35:55

I would say that spend some time analyzing the stories that you tell yourself about yourself and your life, because your reality is shaped by the stories that you tell yourself and especially the stories that the people that surround you are telling you about you. So bring your merciless scalpel to those, to those stories, and just the transitional words, if you're, you know, speaking from a victim, a place of like you're a victim or like. So just just go in and analyze those stories and you'll start. You'll change for the good, you'll change for the better, for sure.

Speaker 1: 36:34

And love that Absolutely. We have so many stories we tell ourselves and when they become unconscious stories it makes to work a little bit more challenging. But to your point, using that scalpel to help you know, carve those things up and make you know and tell a more empowering stories that you can truly live the lives that we were meant to. So thank you so much, josh, for spending time with today and you should be able to help sense of life and help us really battle and have a battle in that psychological warfare that we all have. And so if man or anyone's interested in getting a whole of you and participating in your work, what would be the best way for them to do that?

Speaker 3: 37:09

My link tree is thejoshperishcom. It's got my email on my social media, handles phone number etc. Etc. So that's the best place to find me.

Speaker 1: 37:19

Perfect. I'm going to make sure that's in the show notes so folks can get a hold of you. And do reach out to Dros and some of his programs are, you know, really changing lives, and it'd be great to see and hear from folks that have had some great success with you. So thank you once again, buddy, for being on the show. I really appreciate it today.

Speaker 3: 37:35

Amen, I enjoyed it. Thank you, alan.

Speaker 2: 37:37

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