Total Chaos Pet Appreciation Episode with Reiki Women Podcast

The latest episode of the Reiki Women Podcast, hosted by Michaela Daystar of HeartScapesReiki, Bronwen Logan of Reiki with Bronwen, and Carrie Varela of the Reiki Healing Society, is dedicated to pet appreciation. 

This special episode introduces listeners to the hosts' pets, sharing personal stories about their animals' quirky behaviors, unique personalities, and the lessons they've taught about Reiki practice. 

From breezy front yards to chicken coops, viewers are taken on a virtual visit to meet an entertaining assortment of animals, including cats, dogs, pig, chickens, rabbits, and more, across different homes. 

The hosts discuss the challenges and joys of living with pets and how these animals positively influence their daily lives and spiritual practices. 

The episodes conclude with an invitation for viewers to share their own pet stories.

00:00 Welcome to the Pet Appreciation Episode!
00:21 Introducing Our Furry and Feathered Friends
01:39 Bronwen's Menagerie: Dogs, Mini Horses, and a Walnut-Loving Pig
08:31 Michaela's Garden of Cats, Chickens, and More
12:43 Carrie's Journey with India the Cat and Dog Dynamics
29:57 The Joy and Challenges of Animal Companionship
35:29 Reflecting on the Impact of Animals in Our Lives

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Transcript

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Hello, friends. Welcome back to the Reiki Women Podcast. My name is Michaela of HeartScapesReiki and with me today, as always, is Bronwen Logan of Reiki with Bronwen and Carrie Varela of the Reiki Healing Society. And with all of us today are some very special guests because we decided that today is a long overdue pet appreciation episode. We have long joked among ourselves about the ways in which our pets, usually our cats, are often intervening in the podcast, putting their cute little noses and whispery tails in our faces as we're trying to discuss important matters. And we've had a whole episode on animals and the impact of animals in our life and what they can teach us about Reiki. And we thought it would be fun to introduce all of you, dear watchers, dear listeners, to the specific animals that make up part of our community. And maybe to share with you a little bit about what they have taught us about our Reiki practice. And to do that, we all had to relocate. We had to go to where the animals are. And for me and for Kerry here in the U S it is just the first week of spring. It is glorious outside and my cats want to be out in the sunshine. So I decided to come out here, uh, in the front yard and my little elderberry bench. And, uh, join you that way, and hopefully my cats will stick around here long enough to introduce you to them. But first, I wanted to toss it over to Bronwen to talk about her beautiful pups. Hello. Yep. Uh, so I, have found it a little difficult to get everyone to do whatever it is that I wanted them to do. I am no dog behaviorist or trainer or cat trainer or pig trainer or horse trainer, whatever. I do have, two beautiful mini horses, but I don't think that my reception for the internet gets that far. So we may not be able to see them And I'll have to find my pig Flora who is out and about wandering around. It's walnut season here. It's autumn, which means all the walnuts are falling. And when I bought this property, there were about 16 walnut trees and they fall at this time of year, but I don't really get any since that I got Flora because she eats them all, right? She's 15. So that's 15 years of me looking at the walnuts falling, but not getting up early enough to actually get the walnuts. So, She is out there feeding herself crazy on walnuts and we always say she gets like into a walnut frenzy, which means it does something to her brain and after she eats all my walnuts, she then tries to break out of the property, get into other people's properties, steal their walnuts. and it's not a good way to make friends with your neighbors. I know that. So, uh, yeah, having a pig wandering around eating all the walnuts. So yes, that's the exiting of three dogs, who I did have here with me and I have no idea what they're doing, but they're out there barking at something. Precious. Say hi. That's precious. Oh, that's Mutley chasing Precious. They're friends by the way. So there is no there is no going to eat the cat there, but it's just like, you're my fun. She's the biggest stirrer that I've got in all the cats. Mutley, come over here. Say hi, please. Oh, would you like to say hello? This is Mutley. Yeah. And, uh, Mutley's my most recent friend. Oh, that's Bowie. He's a big white marimba. So Mutley, my little fluffy boy here. There we go. Do you want to hop up? Say hi. So that's Mutley. He's what I call the real dog of the house as he acts like a normal dog. Mutley is, always trying to get attention and be a real dog. He actually comes when you call him where my other two dogs never come when you call them. One of them's a Maremma, which is a big white dog, and they are from the Italian Pyrenees, and they hang out with the sheep up there and look after the sheep. And, uh, there's, oh. There's the third dog going past. That's Daisy. This is all very hectic. Sorry about that, guys. And, oh, hang on. Would you like to come in? This is Bowie. And, uh, Bowie. actually got lost in the National Park for seven weeks last year and was very skinny when he came back, and he developed a, a different attitude about food. Before that he didn't really care about it, now he does. Yeah, he is a beautiful dog but he has his own brain, he won't do anything that I ask him to do and because he thinks he's here to look after us not us look after him and that makes him a little more difficult than than your regular sort of dog. I think they're meant to be a mix between a dog and a wolf. And someone has said to me, it's like when you ask them to do something, it's like asking a committee. So the committee thinks about it. Oh, should we do that? No, I'm not quite sure. Maybe we should do this, you know? So they sort of have this discussion amongst themselves, which is just all going on in his head. And then he makes the choice as to what he actually does decide to do. So, um, Yeah, that's Bowie. Here's Daisy over here. She's the cutest little thing. Now, Daisy came from a very, very difficult background. And so she is now, how old are you Daisy? Um, I don't know if we can see her. There she is. So Daisy is, uh, five and a half and I got her when she was about six months old, she was dumped in the national park. And so she's had a lot of trauma. And I think I've often talked about her in the podcast because she's You know, totally traumatized and only recently does she actually get up on the bed for a cuddle and those sorts of things. Apart from that, she's very, in her own world. She's fight or flight child. She's the one who flew out the gate and took the Maremma with her when they got lost last year. Because he's bonded to her, the big white boy, he will just follow her wherever she goes. And she went straight into the national park. She doesn't really think. I think she just runs. It's a bit like a horse, you know, they just run. And then they stop and think, Oh, what have I done? And by then they're too far away and, and then they get distracted by a kangaroo or a wombat or whatever is, you know, happening out there in the national park. She finds it very hard to listen and to be a part of, the conversation in a dog human way. So I need to really be very calm with her always. You cannot with her say anything that would be in the slightest way. sound aggressive she's still scared of brooms she has a lot of, things that you need to be thoughtful of, but she's really just now, and like it's five years later, is she starting to actually relax a little more, let go a little more, seem to have more joy in life. And I actually think part of that is because of Mr. Mutley down here, who is also a rescue dog, he lived, With someone who didn't have somewhere to live and he lived with that woman and, then she got arrested by the police. And he had nowhere to go. So, he is the most delightful little doggie and, was obviously very loved. Just not in a great situation. So he's here and we got him actually when the big white boy was away for seven weeks. And, when he came back, he was like, What have you done? You've brought someone into this world that you should not have into my world. So there is a bit of jealousy that still exists between them. So once again, being calm, keeping that sort of balance in, in my life helps keep the balance for them. And I think that's, you know, if we're looking at in how we incorporate the system of Reiki into things. If we're aggressive towards the dogs, well, obviously they're going to respond in ways, especially if they've come from a difficult background, they're going to respond in ways that it's just going to make it worse for them. So trying to make it a good, happy life for all of us. That's me and the dogs and I'm going to leave that for the moment, uh, but I'll come back with some chickens when Michaela gets to her chickens, because I think they could have a good chat and my rooster would love to meet your girls because I've got too many roosters, right? So, uh, like Bronwen, I have a bit of a menagerie here, although no, you know, no horses or pigs, um, sadly. Although my best friend does raise goats, so I get to see some baby goats, but my kitten who's been sleeping here so sweetly and then just saw a hummingbird. So now she's all activated and might leave us. Let me see. So turn you around. So this is Luna and she is now very, very keen on a hummingbird that is out there in the wilderness. While she was just sleeping so sweetly a moment ago. Hey Luna, do you want to be internet famous? Come look. So Luna was adopted along with Remus and Remus is sleeping over there in the garden bed. You can see him. Mr. Remus. He is also watching the bird. So we adopted the two of them, um, four years ago. And they were tiny little baby kittens. Luna had been left in a tire shop. She was found in a tire with no family at all. And she was very, very, very small. So she is very bonded with us people because she was really too young to leave her mama. Um, and possibly as a result of that, she cannot stand other cats. She absolutely hates them. Uh, she barely tolerates her brother, Remus, but she absolutely detests the other two cats in our household, which are my daughter's cats. The twins, uh, Chashu and Frijoles. That is pork and beans. is what my child named her cats, Chashu and Primoz. Um, but this one here absolutely detests them, and they, you know, express themselves in some very cat ways about their distaste for each other. And that gives me lots of opportunities to practice just for today, not being angry about cat spraying and fighting and to have compassion for how difficult it is when you have to share your space with people that you don't like. Um, and, you know, navigate all of that. But this beautiful girl, as difficult as she is with the other kittens, she is. My absolute love. She is my My shoulder kitten, she sleeps with me in the bed, she is my all time favorite baby girl, and I just love her to pieces, look at how sweet and precious she is. So, um, let me turn you back around here. Hi! So we like to sit out here in the garden. Um, she loves being with me when I'm practicing Reiki, when I'm doing self practice. Um, she's not allowed up in the Reiki room because of allergens, uh, for clients, but, um, she really is a good ally in that practice. Uh, and really likes to be on my shoulder whenever possible. Um, I am definitely a cat person. My daughter also has a little dog named Mary. Um, we might see a little later. She's a little black and white Chihuahua terrier mix, and she is a real sweetheart. Um, we got her as kind of a therapy dog for my daughter. And she really has served that purpose well. She is a very sweet little dog. I get to be around a sweet dog but not be in charge of a dog, which I appreciate. We also have some chickens, which, uh, I'll, I'll take, uh, you around a little bit later in the back to see. We have rabbits, uh, we have a little lizard, and on and off we have bees. Right now we do not have any bees. Um, but that is our, our current menagerie here on Hardscape's Homestead. And they are always an opportunity to practice being in the moment, being present, appreciating them being their full and true selves, and of course, being compassionate for their wild and wacky and sometimes frustrating, but always adorable little animal ways. So that is the cats and I'm going to turn it over to Carrie love the animals and love all of the. family dynamics, um, between all of them. So this is my cat, India. I, um, got her, she is about 13 years old and my dog is about 12. And so when I came back from India, I, knew that I really wanted to sprout some roots. And, um, for me at the time I was single and was in an apartment and really what felt like the like next course of action for me was to get a cat. So, um, very intuitive the process. I went up to a cat shelter near my parents house two times and just didn't really feel a connection. to any of the cats there. And then one morning I woke up and I had this little voice inside and he said, your cat is waiting for you at the cat shelter. And, um, yep. So I went and, um, the rest is history. This is my friend India and she has been with me for so many different moments in my life. And, um, she is an indoor kitty cause I got her in an apartment when I first initially had her. And I was living in Denver, which, like, for me, like, to have an outdoor cat seems atrocious, because, like, the traffic there is crazy, and, like, I just, my pets are, like, my family, and I can't even imagine, like, letting them just go off on their own, but, uh, at that point in time, it didn't seem, uh, like I could even do that, so, she's always been an indoor kitty, but a couple times, maybe actually three times, she has gotten out. and had her own merry adventures for several days and um, most recently she got out and as I should have known there's like this spot that she goes to like underneath our shed and she like digs her way underneath there and so she spent um, a couple nights out there in the shed and I couldn't find her because it was like so hard to hear her and it was like the middle of winter, it was raining like crazy outside. Um, but as like that happened, and this, uh, like, and then there was another point in time where she was gone for like 10 days. I really thought she was gone, but she had come back. Um, but I've just been reflecting on how much of my life really, like, like the periods of my life really are set by the animals that I have in my house and in my life. And the two animals that you'll get to meet today are like, um, the animals that I got in my adulthood. So they're the ones that have stayed with me, uh, this whole period of time. And so I just, I think of like my whole lifespan is kind of like broken apart by animals who'd been a part of my life. Um, So India is like the sweetest little kitty, but she loves to bite you. She's got this little bite. Ears bite. Um. and, uh, she also, so I feel remiss not to mention that when my husband and I got together, he had this Jack Russell terrier and I have a chocolate lab and you'll see them. And they were like kind of buddies at first. And they were good for a good long time, but it was crazy. Like both of them are just crazy dogs, super hyper, super active, like need a lot, need a lot of grounding, like, um, It's easily excitable and so it took me like forever to get the hang of like I took them to so many dog trainers and everything just thought I'd be able to take them on a walk without them just like zigzagging all over each other and like everything and so that was like this whole process and uh we were copacetic with each other for I would say about three years Maybe longer, four years. And then finally when we moved to California, we just decided that they would be happier apart because they were just on each other's throats all the time. And um, it just so happened that like one part of our family could take him and, you know, and he had a connection to that part of our family. So there's like this dog in my heart that I love too. That was Jonathan's dog. It's been definitely a part of our family, but my cat, she just hated the dogs, and I mean, I can just commiserate with the whole experience of like, they're your animal family, you love them, but they like, don't get along, and so particularly when my cat, or when this Jack Russell Terrier came into our animal family, my cat was like, oh hell no, and so that marked a period of, I don't know, four years of bedwetting and my cat being pissed off about all kinds of different things and just all kinds of behavioral problems. Um, and so really learn to respect how much animals like need their own space. And, uh, so my cat has a cat condo. That's her little spot. Like there's this whole room that's really hers. Um, dogs can come in there, but you know, he's going to get hissed at and swat at. He gets too close and, um, it's a whole process, but I love that my cat is like, so this is a space that I often do some filming for meditations or yoga classes, um, or teaching yoga over Zoom. And so my cat's like my constant companion when I do that kind of stuff. And I love that connection we have. And I think I mentioned it a few times before on the podcast that my cat would typically Uh, for the first several years of us, uh, you know, cohabitating, she would literally sleep on my head every night, and I felt this very strong connection that she just assisted me. Beautiful energy. She's always going for the light and the light energy. And so she would just like sit at my crown and we would meditate together. And, um, and she's a very catchy, feely, lovey, dovey kind of cat, which, um, is totally my fave. Um, love that about her. So I'll pass there and hand it over to one of you who's ready to shift. And I'm going to move myself and, um, and jump back in and share with you a little bit more about McDonald's hats. I just, hey, I'm going to interrupt Michaela just for a sec, because I just want to show my duckies. They're not going to do anything too amazing, but I've got two little boy ducks there. Or little, they're fat. Hello. Are you going to go for a swim? Maybe, maybe not. But, um, anyway, uh, that's, um, Bill and Ben. And, uh, they, uh, keep us amused and get along with everybody. Well, I have, uh, decided to just go ahead and get inside the chicken coop. Uh, as probably the easiest way to show you these friends. So let me introduce my friends. You can probably hear them already. So here we have our two flocks. So we have Teen Tiny Chicken, which is where I am right now. And that is a flock of little Bantam hens. So, um, this little beauty here, that little buff, um, there. For some reason, this flock has not been named yet, which surprises me. I love naming my animals. And then over there, you can see the Peanut Gallery. That's our regular flock of big girls. They are eagerly awaiting some treats that I did not remember to bring with me, so they're very disappointed in me right now. Um, but I, I absolutely love chickens. They are so delightful and funny, and of course, provide you with lovely eggs. Uh, there's one more Team Tiny Chicken member who's in the coop laying an egg right now. Um, so there's five of them, and they're just so stinkin cute. Um, I prepared all of these from Uh, a few of them have hatched here, and the rest were raised from tiny babes. Uh, we did have, we do have one little baby over, let's see if you can see her. The little brown fluff, way in the back, I don't know if you can see her. Uh, she was, uh, hatched under a mama here in, uh, the homestead, um, first one that we had hatched just here, um, rather than in an incubator, and she is very cute and wonderful, and this one here right in front of us, she's one of the prettiest, she's an Egyptian breed, uh, just a very lovely hen, and I just find them to be absolutely delightful. Um, we are Just starting a major process of moving them clear across the yard to the other side of my backyard. Um, they've been in the same spot for quite a few years and really have exhausted this land and just need to have a refreshed space. Um, so that will be underway, uh, starting this week. So, the girls will be getting a new home, a refreshed space, and then at that point, we're going to combine the two flocks together. And here we have one of the aforementioned twin cats that my kitten hates. Uh, that is Frijoles, the little bean cat. He's like, no, I have got important cat business to attend to. I do not wish to say hi. So that is the chickens. How could I forget our fish pond? I don't know if you can see any of the fishies. I can't see anything, it's black. But there's also fish. Why is it black? All right, I'm gonna go find a rabbit. All right, so while Michaela is sorting out her chickens and rabbits, here's some of my kids and um, there's the rooster obviously. Are my, uh, girls. Some of my girls and their boy. And, uh, These girls are battery hens. So they were, Oh, there we go. Look, Hey kids say hi. We can have a virtual chicken play date right here on the Reiki women podcast. That is so cute. Are we having a chicken play date over here? Oh my God, your tickets are so cute. Our podcast is completely devolved into insanity. We're, we're just, we're just, this is what we're doing. I love that. Okay. So, well, those are some fine chicks. They are. Oh, I just remind, I'm thinking of like the dicky chicks, hippy chicks or something like that, that like give them all a name to really go with our vibe. Hi, guys. Oh, look at that handsome gentleman. I know. He's so good, he looks after them all, finds them food, um, looks out for the hawks, does all the proper things that a good rooster does. Don't you, darling? And, um, the girls are isobrowns, uh, or isobrown mixers, they're all battery hens. So they're from a battery farm where they kill them when they're 18 months old. And yet these guys I've had them for years. They live to be eight, 10 years old. Um, so that's just really sad. This is my friend Pax. You might see his, uh, a brooded tail. Which is one of his most distinctive features. Um, if you've ever had a lab, you might know that labs are like, the craziest about food. All that I care about is food, food, and their balls. Yeah. Um, and so Pax, we have a daily struggle around food and him basically sneaking it out of our hands anytime he can. Anytime he can get. Yeah. He's a good pup. So that's my dog and his signature short tail and happy tail and, and yeah, he's a good pup. He's also, I think I mentioned this before. I feel like he's really psychic. And so even just like thinking about this podcast episode and getting outside and how I could like wrangle him and the dog and the cat and video and camera, everything. I, um, basically been thinking about different scenarios. I was thinking about taking him outside and throwing the ball with him. And I know he will like, literally like pull that thought out of my head somehow. And like, I just have to do it. And it's until like he actually gets that, then he'll be in my face asking for attention. And, uh, you know, the, the ball date that he somehow snagged from my consciousness. Now, I was thinking, I don't know where McKettler is, but I was thinking of going after my piggy, but I'm not sure if she, if the internet goes there, but we can have a little look and see if we can get her, hey? I am gonna get you some bunnies. Yep. Hold on one sec. All right. All right. Prepare yourself, people. I love bunnies. For the bunnies. Oh my goodness. Oh my gosh, I love them. Oh my god. So the black one here is Mr. Clow. He is the rascal. He's the one that when I give them yard day, I have to really take care to catch him. Uh, his brother here, the gray bunny, is Mr. Lilybun, and their sister, who is not getting any treats right now, is Miss Molly, and they are siblings and from the same litter, um, raising baby bunnies. was the cutest thing I've ever experienced in my life, and it's a good thing that we neutered them because, you know, it's real easy to get carried away with that, and I feel like this time of year I would absolutely be tempted to have more bunnies, um, because it was the best thing ever. But I love them. They are so sweet, and it's so cute seeing them out in the yard. I'm gonna build them a special little area in the yard so Mr. Clow doesn't get too lonely. lost so easily, um, but we've had them about four years. They're wonderful. There you go, Mr. Chloe, Mr. Lily and Miss Molly, the bunnies of Hardscape's homestead. Oh, thank you, Michaela. Thank you, Michaela. I, I have a piggy coming my way. Oh, here she comes. Come on, Floor. Around here, doll. Where are you? Can you hear her? She's making a noise. Come on. Flora. Hello. There she is. Come on. Oh my gosh. Come on. Come and say hi. I've got an orange here for you. Hold on. Let's see if I can. Whoops. There's an orange. Look. Oh. She makes orange juice. You want me to take it to you, do you? Whoop. Hold on. Whoop. Here you go, sweetheart. There we go. Have your oranges. That's it. Oh, she might, sometimes she grabs it and runs away. She's, one thing about pigs as everybody, everybody probably knows they're very smart, right? So her thing is that, I'm not going to eat it here. I'm going to take it back where no one else can get it. Did you eat it? You didn't eat it. I have another one for you. Oh, hang on. Here we are, sweetie. There we go. Well, now she's going to go hide in the bushes and eat her oranges and make orange juice. Anyway, that's Flora, who is a very chatty poog. Um, oh, actually the tail is one of her best attributes. Oops. Let's see if we can see the tail. Oh, yep. Can you see a tail? I have no idea. I'm very bad at this videoing thing, but, um, that's a piggy tail. Very happy and, um. Yeah, you know the most wonderful thing about pigs? This, this girl is like the star of this place. And I think it's very much that thing that people never get to see pigs, right? They only, they only eat them. So, It's such a lovely opportunity for people when they come here to meet her, she just roams free, her house is just free for her to walk in and out. She sleeps there, she's a happy little pig and, uh, you know, people touch her and they're always like, Oh my God, cause it's bristly, right? It's not like hair and it's all that sort of experience, which is just wonderful, um, for, um, her and for them. And she talks to them. She's very chatty. Um, so, you know, it's a, it's a great experience for everyone to actually meet a real live pig and see what they're eating and what it actually means to kill an animal like that. That's my experience. And, um, I think it helps. Oh my goodness. Anything else that we want to share about our relationship with these beasts? Anything else that comes to your heart after a very chaotic animal appreciation podcast. I just love how much our animals just are such a big part of our lives and they motivate us, you know, every morning to get up and feed them and do all the things that we do to take care of them. But, you know, in many ways they're like got fire under our butts, under my butt, I guess, to, to go on walks. And like my dog and I used to run a lot together. We don't run so much anymore because he's 12 now. And so he's His hips don't really like it, but, you know, like this motivation to do good things for ourself and each other and, um, and, and receive that pure love that only our furry friends can really give us, so. I love seeing all your pets. I've been particularly fond of the pig that Bronwen you've seen, because I've seen pictures of you, like, giving Reiki to that pig with your, like, uh, second diamond just, like, melded to her belly. Um. She's such a beautiful pig. And then I love, wow, I love all of your pets, Michaela, but I guess I have to say I'm very fond of your bunnies. I used to have a whole gaggle of bunnies when I was a kid. And, uh, we had it up against, like, we had this pen up against our shell, um, or shed when I was a kid. And we got two bunnies specifically thinking they were brothers or sisters. We weren't sure which, but thinking that we were good in that area. But no, they were like boyfriend, girlfriend. We came out with a whole, uh, pod of little, uh, bunnies, uh, growing up, which is, I think I was maybe nine years old or something like that. Pretty much the highlight of my childhood at that point in time. Um, so I have fond memories of the bunnies and now my kids are just surrounded by all kinds of different animals at their schools. And, um, the bunny is pretty high on the list of, um, The next pet adventure I might go on that or a bird. My daughter really wants a bird, which be, um, a whole thing. And for a long time I had fish. I was really into fish. I don't have a fish tank right now, but I've had many, many different fish tanks with lots of different fun, um, water creatures. It was a joy though, to show you my babies or some of my babies and, uh, you know, in a way they are like that. I'm sure that my kid was always very jealous and possibly still is of, um, my animals. And, uh, yeah, I would have to agree with, with Carrie saying that, you know, they, I think they bring out the best in us because it makes us, uh, as you say, you know, get up, do stuff, but you know, it's looking after someone. And that thing is, it's so true that the more that we do for the more that we do for other people, um, the better we feel. Yeah. So, and, and people, I just mean by living things, you know, and, uh, it is such a good feeling. And I know also, even, um, someone else was talking to me about this the other day, chickens, Michaela, that they were saying that, you know, they used to go and hang out with their chickens. And I definitely will hang out with the chickens, especially if, uh, you know, if I'm a bit upset about something, I'll say, I'm just going down to the chickens. And, uh, and I just sort of walk around, do fiddle and, you know, they're all with me and they, they're free to roam around during the day, but, you know, they'll come and see you anyway, because, you know, you've got the food, but also you've got the love, right? And it's, it is a really calming thing. The smell of a horse, you know, for me is a very calming grounding thing. and they help just bring us back more into who we are, I think. I really, uh, love having lots of animals. Sometimes I, last night was a full moon here and, uh, the dogs went nuts at about 12. 30. That's when I don't. enjoy having animals. That's when you got to call in the, uh, let go and, uh, it's just a full moon and it'll all be over soon feeling. So, um, yeah, you know, it's up and down and that's just life. I was just reading some Pema Chodron stuff the other day and one of her quotes, was sort of saying is always that You know, life is suffering. And by that, that word suffering is such a weird word. But what she's saying is that, you know, we can't make life this perpetual joy, right? But life is going to be ups and downs. And we especially experience that, I think, when we are living with others, when we try to cope. close ourself off to the world, then, then we don't experience that. But true real life is full of great things and not great things if you want to label them. And that is life, that is living. And I think animals bring us into that and, they really put us at the coalface of, of life and make us get in there and, and do things and, and, and be a part of life rather than hiding ourself away. And I think I really appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, really excellent points. Uh, well, thank you ladies for taking, uh, each other and, uh, our wonderful viewers on this tour of the animal side of all of our Reiki practices. I know I had a lot of fun sharing my little babes with all of you. And jumping into some chaos. If you have stuck with us till the end, with all of the moving around, we commend you, we're grateful for you. We would love to learn about your fur babies and your slime babies and your claw babies and your feather babies. We would like to know about all the babies and how, your relationship with your animals impacts your Reiki practice if it does. So please do share all of that goodness with us down below. If there is a topic you would like us to cover here on Reiki Women podcast, we would love your input and we'd love to be responsive to what you are most curious about. help us, uh, plan out our next round of topics. And until next week, may you be well loved by the animals in your life and may you give that love back to them in spades. Thank you so much for watching. Until next time, we love you. Bye. Bye.