Double AA club Podcast
Double AA club Podcast
EP: 86 Transformations and Taboos: Female Bodybuilding Unveiled
Ever wondered how competitive female bodybuilders sculpt their chiseled physiques? Join Boom and big Daz on the Double A Club as they uncover the secrets behind the meal plans, calorie counts, and macronutrient strategies that transform athletes into contenders. Boom shares his personal journey from physical therapist to personal trainer, detailing the meticulous coaching process for female athletes. Learn about the crucial mental, emotional, and spiritual resilience required to endure the pain and sacrifices on the path to competitive success. Celebrating the hard-earned victories, they also shed light on the sheer joy of witnessing remarkable transformations.
In another compelling segment, we tackle the controversial topic of steroid use in women's bodybuilding. Is it possible to achieve an impressive physique naturally? Hear personal anecdotes that contrast natural competitors with those who may rely on performance enhancers like Anabar. We also stress the importance of gym etiquette, emphasizing the need to respect shared spaces by re-racking weights. Wrapping up with a personal story from a bustling Florida gym, we explore how social media is reshaping gym culture and workout dynamics. Whether you're a fitness enthusiast or a professional, this episode offers a thorough exploration of modern bodybuilding and fitness culture.
You are listening to the Double A Club and this is your host, ny Boom, and my co-host, big Daz. We'll be talking about trending topics and healthcare and basically just as a disclaimer just to let the listeners know that this is just basically on our opinions and speculations and I hope you guys enjoy the show. Let's start off and kick off with our first topic.
Speaker 2:So that's good that you mentioned the culinary aspect, and I do remember that there was a time when you was training from some of your clients and you would I think you would have meals plans for them or you would give them recipes or something like that you'd help them with their cooking.
Speaker 2:I yeah, well, you know funny mention that I didn't mention that by default somewhere along the lines of me working as a personal trainer, and this happened when I was actually working at physical therapy. Now I might say, let me just say this, that there was a point in my life, at the time that I was working in physical therapy, I really didn't think I was going back to personal training. I thought I was going to stay for the means of rehab because it was really interesting. I really loved the whole idea of movement and potentiality and power mechanics and somehow I met a friend who is no longer a competitor. Competitor I started training girls for competition, right, remember? I don't know if you is that what you were talking about, I'm sure yeah, well, it was that was one of those, one of the things I was mentioning.
Speaker 2:I thought you did it for a couple more other times, but yes, I remember that one did you. Yeah, exactly that just happened when I was I was loving in Queens and yeah, I remember first meeting this one particular girl who I I met at the gym and she was friends with some of the trainers there. So I kind of just started talking with her and I'll take you, look like you, look like you body go and, and my case, I even know not much about body, but I only knew bodybuilding through, you know, magazines and just stuff that I learned that I had tried myself when it came to bodybuilding but I really wanted to know more. And then so it's so, so intriguing that this person, you know, just standing there like looking like she was already a, not a bodybuilder but she was training pretty hard right, and I did ask her. I was like, hey, did Simone train? And she kind of said, let me think about it. And then she came back to me, probably later, and we started and that that's when it actually this one.
Speaker 2:I kind of fell into that part of my life where I learned more about the coaching of bodybuilding for women, because it's only for women. I never really knew anything about the men part either, and we went through the process of it was I don't know. We did about three months of crack that they call it. Along the way, that learned a lot of tricks of the trade. I would say I was more of a can't say I was a pro at it, that's for sure, right, but I was just getting to know that aspect of training and we went through it. She actually got second place, which was great for me. I mean, I was like, oh my god, we did this together. I didn't know what the outcome was, that we did it. And then I think we tried it the second time and at that same time another person came to me and Asked me if I could help her as well, because, well, she had seen what I had done with the other girl.
Speaker 2:And yes, as far as like what to cook, how to cook it, how many calories to utilize, this is where it really gets more in detail and that's when it really gets more deep into like you need to be precise about how many calories you're having, how many protein, carbohydrates and fats you're having, how many protein, carbohydrates and fats you're having, and that is how you start to work through the processes of of building not just muscle, uh, but also, uh, maintaining enough lean muscle mass and then leaning out really like they call it right. You're getting shredded, like some people want to do, like the whole tone part. We're going back to that it's. You know, we really need to be more, I guess, adherent to our diets to really get the results that we want, and if we have the enough drive drive then obviously it'll get us there.
Speaker 2:But there is always this one thing that I learned training these girls is that anything that you do, any goal that you desire and want to just go ahead on with it, you're going to have to go through what's called pain, and I don't mean just physical pain in this case with exercise, but pain, mental, right, mental, emotionally and physical and spiritual. All of them are encompassing that sense of training and there's a lot of pain involved in that because it's a lonely road. Only you are doing it right. It's only that person and you do obviously have my help right In my case it was me who's kind of mentoring them through the process and trusting the process of getting there. Yeah, I would say all of that part of them putting themselves through that pain, waking up a certain time, and not only that, but in their case, not so much cardio, because eventually I kind of we all realized that cardio doesn't necessarily burn the fat. We actually did very little cardio. Instead, we, basically we chose how to manipulate the macronutrients. Macronutrients are protein, fats and carbohydrates, and as long as you learn those aspects and how to manipulate them to get the outcome, it's a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2:I mean, you can literally see your body change within days, Even a day, obviously, once you get to a point where you're really lean enough, you can see it change from one day to another for a few hours, and then obviously the whole, and it's better At the end of the day. It's like they go on stage they have makeup on, they have those heels on. Of the day, it's like they go on stage, they have makeup on, they have those heels on, they have their you know obviously their their suits on their, where they pose, whether they're bikini girls, whether they're figure competitors. Now they have what's called wellness, which is a different type of category.
Speaker 2:Um, and and yeah, I mean, I did it. I I probably had so much fun then, because it was something that I didn't know and once I learned it, I enjoy the whole idea of the backstage stuff and preparing them. For sure, man, it was, it was fine, oh, and it's. It's strange because a lot of people who come into the gym have this misconception that bodybuilders are healthy and that's completely, it's completely wrong. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:because one the way they're a lot of like.
Speaker 2:I know for the men, I don't know for the women well, maybe it it applies to women, but I think it depends on the category, like if they're doing this body like, what is bodybuilding one of the categories they got to know? Yeah, this was the other one. It's bodybuilding. Yeah, wellness, yeah, so, yeah, so there's at least eight of them. Yeah, the body is one. Where did the biggest, most muscular people? Right, those, they're not healthy. Yeah, and they're according to weight. I would say according to weight too. So it's obviously the biggest will be the heavy weights, right, and then you have a little weight. Yeah, but even with I'm just speaking about that category just for them to get that physique they have they. They haven't physique. They create an eating disorder, you know what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going to get to that part as far as, like this whole, I would say I can't. I don't want to put anybody down about bodybuilding or even training for competitions, because I think it's wonderful if somebody wants to inspire, to look a certain way and then go through the process, I think it's a great inspiration. Yeah, I think it's different. If you're doing it for your sport, it's your sport and stuff like that it's good to fun. I mean, listen, if it's fun and you love it. It's not for the average person person to think that I need to do this to get to know all right, right, right, I would definitely yeah. If you have to put in addition, that would definitely say yeah, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say yes to go and do it just because you feel like doing it. You would have to go through the process of thinking about it and then we can make a choice whether this is who you are and also whether you have the body type to do it. Yeah, because, um, not everyone is made, made equal, right, so you can't just decide I'm going to go train and get on that stage and I'm going to look just like them. Well, that depends on what type of uh, forget the height, it's more of like, uh, the bone density you may have, the quality of muscle you do have, you know, or even the structure. They always look for the X structure when it comes to bodybuilding. So, and if you don't really have an X structure, right, especially for bodybuilding men, right, like if you don't have good legs and you just have a great upper body, yeah, I'm sorry, but it's such objective about type of body building is really subjective and I'm because of it, right, so you can't just go in and thinking that, and I agree with you, I'm not a part of that. You know, it's not for everyone, but it does have his downfall as well.
Speaker 2:That I have seen training the competitors is that I would say I had noticed that some of these competitors not mine personally, but the ones that I did see I've always spoke about the dark side of competition. Yes, and now it's becoming more public. Yes, it is, it's becoming a lot more public. And you know what? They probably don't want to go there either, because obviously they did, they made that choice and they did it and and they, they can't blame anyone for themselves. But there is the dark side, where you create this vicious cycle of yo-yo dieting, and I would say I'm one of them. I never competed, but I did try to get prepared for one. This is in the beginning stages of my life myself, when I wanted to just to see what my body could do, and then I never made it through it because of personal reasons.
Speaker 2:But I would say that some of these girls, they have issues with not just bulimia, but they also have issues with gorging, I guess you would say, or like I said before, with gorging, I guess you would say, or, like I said before, you know, yoga dining is one of the major reasons. Body complex is another one, right, and you could do it again with the mental problems as well, like it's just, it's inevitable, it's gonna happen because you have a goal to to reach, you reach the goal and once you reach the goal, it's done, it's finished and your mind still wants to do stuff, but there's nothing more to do. So they're almost like they become depressed because they don't have nothing else to look forward to. And obviously some of them continue to do it to see if they could maybe reach the pro level status, right, mm-hmm, and some, I guess, just get lost in the crowd where they don't know what else to do. They jump to different coaches, from one coach to another, and eventually they just burn out.
Speaker 2:And I've heard stories where girls have gone blind. What Gone blind? Yes, yeah, not permanently. So there's a story, there's a diet. I'm not going to mention it.
Speaker 1:Not just diet. You don't have to mention it.
Speaker 2:But let's just say not all girls will take or do any type of steroids, but some will, yes, to get what they want to look like, right, yeah, and that on top of the fact that they're really dieting hard to the point where they lose their menstrual cycle and before you know it, they're no longer in ketosis, they're in ketoacidosis, which is dangerous.
Speaker 2:Explain how dangerous that is Because, you know, people don't know what that is. So, let's just say, your body eats itself alive. Okay, it starts to really really break itself down, and not just break itself down with muscle, right, but it starts breaking down organs. Well, of course, because the organs are muscles. Well, I mean, besides the point, it's just the organs just start seizing because, well, I mean, it's trying to keep itself from dying and here you are not feeding it, right, it's a fluctuation of all of these. You know minerals and vitamins that you require and you're not, you're not really up keeping that. The body's fighting itself to stay in homeostasis, which is is basically, you know, a balance. And then, if you can't maintain that, right, the body starts to say, well, we're going to look for energy from someone else, or at least let's see, maybe we'll rely on this type of organ. And you know it, man, it's just not, it is not the healthiest way you want to to obtain and get a result, right, you know, and of course some coaches are out there doing this to all of these girls, and the reason why they're doing this, I don't think they, some of these guys, probably don't even know what they're doing, right? Even you know, and if maybe some of these coaches know a little bit of what they know and they're helping someone out, I get it right. But if you really don't know, right, and I will, me included let's say I would not do that to someone, right? We wouldn't want someone to literally almost die because we just for a plastic trophy, right? That says you want to mention the cost that it does, you know, empty our pockets when it comes to becoming a competitor and paying for entry fees, paying for all of the stuff to make up the hair and this is for girls, not just for guys, right? So, yeah, I would say it's really you really want to think about what is it going to do for you? If you are looking to become pro and you already have followers and you really are a fit woman, or or a young lady who is is trying to get there, then so be it, let them do it.
Speaker 2:I would read someone that's just starting and has no clue, has nothing of information about it. I would say first do your research. First is coaching, then the food part what to do, what is it not to do, and as much as information that they can get. Then the food part, what to do, what is it not to do? You know, and as much as the information that they can get, before they even decide whether this is the right thing for them to do. Right, because it's all about their body, the way it looks, their lifestyle as well. Just because you feel like you're going to train with someone and they're going to help you, it doesn't mean that your lifestyle is going to connect right. If you're working 12 hour shifts, you're not going to be able to do it. There's just no way your body will suffer the consequence, and I know that.
Speaker 2:For for female competitors that are the most the popular steroid is anabar, I believe, soft off business, the influencer as she, yeah, comes down and talks about how a lot of female competitors use that and that she thinks that doesn't use anything. But I mean she probably has. She probably didn't use anything in the last hour, but there's no way she gets as fucking jacked as she is without something. That's not natural. Yeah, man, I would say I've heard of Anabar and I've heard of a lot of other substances that are not good for you. I would say if anybody's going to do it, they're better off. Just Be naughty, you know, just going to have fun.
Speaker 2:You think that is possible for them to do it naturally, because I think, I believe that a lot of the their thought process was that they can't get there naturally and that's why there's so many that are on it. I mean, they literally have a, a a natural competition Because they do. They actually do have a federation, which is natural competition. I don't know what they're, the thorough freaks, yeah well, you know. The thing is is also because we don't know if they are. What is the whole life? What? What is their take on the natural part? Is it really natural or are they just subjecting some competitors to be, you know, kind of tested and then the others aren't?
Speaker 2:I can't say. I can't also speculate, but I really don't know if they are natural or not. You can be natural, though, and and and have a good physique. You're just not going to get the that type of natural, as they say in some other federations that aren't sort of, you know, watching out for that. There's a federation that I know that they don't care, they're just like they say that it's natural. But I know that it's definitely untrue, because I know that people I wouldn't say no, let me take that back. Don't quote me. Yeah, I would say, I would say it's. Let's just say in my know-how there are people that have competed in certain federations that you know it says it's natural, it's not Okay. Let's just say that, yeah, that's what I can say about that. And then there are people who are competitors, who are natural. That definitely, you know, sometimes it doesn't show that much of a difference, bro, I understand. I can't. I can't say that for myself. I've seen it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to bring up a blast from your past. I don't know that. I see, I'm a blast from your past. I don't know if you remember when we worked in your sports club, right? That old guy that was a bodybuilder. He'd come every morning with the glasses. He was natural. I remember the old man. He was like almost 60 at the time. He wasn't a personal trainer, right? No, no, no, he was a, he was a cut is a customer.
Speaker 1:He was a man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, glasses, yeah, yeah, I think he did. Oh, yeah, I know that. You know he became a personal trainer after that. Yeah, yeah, but he was natural, he was a natural competitor. He was natural, yes, he was natural. I don't know, man, I don't know, I never asked you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he used to brag, he used to talk about his competition, that he did that. He, uh, that he could. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, he was natural and, to be honest with you, I mean he can't. He does look a little natural. I mean, you know it looks well, he wasn't a big guy. Yeah, he wasn't a big guy. He was shredded. Yeah, he was shredded. He had a good receipt, man, he was great to see for 60, right? Um, great to see for 60, right? Do you remember that guy who didn't look natural? Among other guys that didn't look natural In that particular place?
Speaker 2:There was a guy there that I'm sure you remember that always lifted and left all the weights out, all the dumbbells. He always left the dumbbells out anywhere, like just, hey, you didn't put nothing back. And I used to always be like, hey, man, put your weights back. That's the worst, you know If you're able to pick it up to do your exercise. You're able to pick it up and put it fucking back. It's only common courtesy. Hey, it's only common courtesy. I do it all the time. It's just not enough. It's the only way that we could all train safely. I would say, if somebody wants to hit a dumbbell or fall over a dumbbell, that's for sure. But again, that's the old ways. I don't know what it is today where, like now, you have dumbbells on the floor. Probably you have tripods, cameras on the floor filming each other. Let's talk about that. That shit is interesting to me. Yo, seriously, seriously, seriously.
Speaker 2:I'm down in Florida, right, and I go to the gym called Amp, right, and it looks like a nice gym. It's huge, very spacious, but every time I want to use a machine, the machine is out of order and then, if it is working, they only have one machine and someone's occupying it. The last time I went to the gym, right, they have this big let me emphasize, they have a lot of space, it's big, right, and I'm going to the dumbbell area to go start off my warm-up and they have, I think, six benches and six people are using all six benches. So I'm like, okay, fine, I'm going to bypass this. I'm going to go to the cables, start off over there. So I go to the cables. I do two exercises in my cables. I'm there for like 15 minutes, right. I come back to the bench area. The same six people are still using the same six benches. So I'm like, all right, cool, I'm going to let them go. I got another exercise, I'm going to let them go. I got another exercise. I'm going to go grab this pec deck. I think I was doing back or some shit like that. So I went to the pec deck, did some more shit, right, I was there for another 10 minutes. Come back, the same six people are using the same bench and I'm like what the fuck, bro? And so I grab a chair because I can't get a bench. So I grab a chair and now I'm knocking out two more exercises I got to do. I got to do shoulder presses and I got to do lateral raises. So I'm knocking these out. I finish my thing. The same six people are still on the same thing. It's already past an hour and I'm like what the fuck? I can't do my fucking exercises that I got programmed for today. And then, on top of it, every time I go to the gym, there's always fucking one or two people fucking, taking pictures or videos of themselves throughout the whole fucking time. I'm like what the fuck? I get off the goddamn machine, yeah.
Speaker 2:But you also have to understand that we're living in a different, different yeah, different life, man, we didn't cooperate with any of that stuff. We either worked out, we got in what we got in. We all kind of said, hey, you're using that, and then jumped in and you jumped in, you worked out, you were done and you thought you worked out, and even you were done and you got your workout and even you got help too, because you got a spotter. And nowadays, like I said, I always improvise, as we are, as you were a trainer before, and we always know. I mean, we're lucky, we're the lucky ones at least, that we get a chance to improvise. And I'm sure nowadays there's so much improv going on at other gyms because of what's happening. Right, you have people having the machines or you have people taking pictures and focusing more on themselves about how they want to post and what they want to show on whatever media they want to post on. So, yeah, it's a big difference between in those days and then what we do today.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of fluff. It's a lot of fluff. Yeah, it's a lot of fluff. I'm not knocking the people taking pictures and videos and all that. No, this is time and place. You know what I'm saying. Like you know, my gym is a 24-hour fit. It's a 24 hours. You could come at night on a downtime and do that. You know what I'm saying. Like, don't do that between 9 o'clock in the morning to 5. You know what I'm saying. Like there's people, there's good flow of traffic. Get in here after 11 and do that. You know what I'm saying. You got to gym more by yourself. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:Otherwise I guess you're going to have to go. You're going to have to go after hours, then to get a workout.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to go to the gym, but, yeah, what, what? What gyms? What gyms are around the world like, besides the one I have? I have a 24-hour fitness, I have a crunch, I have amp, I have fitness. Um, eos la fitness, you got every gym. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So i'm't from the most important order, but the most gyms in Florida, right, like from what I remember, they're pretty large. No, no, not all gym. Some, well, not so, not the mom-and-pop gyms, right?
Speaker 2:no no, you'd be surprised, even like I went to an LA fitness. No small shit. Oh, it was compact, you know saying so. It was as big as you know you would think it would be, as it was small as shit. Oh, wow, it was compact. You know what I'm saying. So it's not as big as you would think it would be as a sports club. You know, I went to a 24-hour fitness, right yeah, and they only had one floor, one floor for the weights, and it was all compact. Downstairs was the pool and the basketball gym and it was just, it was too tight. You know what I'm saying. Like, I remember the 24-hour fitness in downtown Manhattan and you could literally walk 10 steps to the next machine, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying so some of these gyms are small, they're compact, but moving are really big. You know what I'm saying, so I mean.
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