Double AA club Podcast
Double AA club Podcast
EP: 87 Breaking the Cycle: Educating Future Generations on Healthy Eating
Steroids have revolutionized bodybuilding, but at what cost? Join us as we expose the startling connection between modern steroids and the surge in serious health issues among famous bodybuilders, including cardiac arrests. We dissect the internal havoc wreaked by these potent substances and underscore the critical need for awareness. Transitioning to a more controlled approach, we delve into testosterone therapy, debunking its association with steroid abuse. Through personal anecdotes, we reveal how medically supervised testosterone therapy can be a game-changer for those suffering from low testosterone levels, significantly enhancing their quality of life.
Our conversation takes a reflective turn as we explore the intricate web of generational dietary habits and their role in the development of pre-diabetes and diabetes. We reflect on how our upbringing, influenced by economic constraints and cultural norms, has shaped our health. Highlighting the importance of education, we share one host's journey in teaching his son about nutritious eating and cooking. This segment drives home the necessity of breaking unhealthy cycles and fostering better dietary habits for future generations. Tune in to understand the lifelong impact of our dietary choices and learn how to create a healthier legacy.
You are listening to the Double A Club and this is your host, ny Boom, and my co-host, big Daz. We'll be talking about trending topics in healthcare and basically, just as a disclaimer just to let the listeners know that this is just basically on our opinions and speculations and I hope you guys enjoy the show. Let's start off and kick off with our first topic.
Speaker 2:It is what it is. But let's get back to the bodybuilding, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So with this dark side of the bodybuilding, you know we have to. I mean, it is coming out a lot and now we're starting to get bodybuilders, well-known bodybuilders, starting to die.
Speaker 2:Yes, as we've seen in a few years, Cardiac arrest, all this stuff, yes, yes, it has. And I think also because steroids have changed as well, I think they've gotten stronger. That's my only take on it. Again, don't quote me if I'm saying it, but I think, somehow, I think most of these steroids now have gotten much stronger since they started making all of these new steroids coming out that probably make. All in all, it's probably still testosterone if you're looking for testosterone, If not, it's something else. And yeah, probably people are just not realizing that, even though they're feeling good and everything's great, that it's probably hurting them internally, and so I would say, hopefully it stops right, like it doesn't necessarily get to a point where, like, people start dropping their flies, as is what's happening, and then, before you know it, that's the end of bodybuilding at that point. So I think they will probably somehow I'm sure they're going to find a way where they could tone it down and the scientist knows this. Right, the scientists that make these sort of synthetic steroids or whatever steroids they make, they will probably find a way to tone it down a little bit and not go crazy on them.
Speaker 2:Making stuff for other people, you know, I mean, obviously there's some that probably make it anyway. Right, that go crazy on them. Making stuff for its living people, you know, I mean, obviously there's some that probably make it in there and they don't care. Some of them sell, they just care about the money. As you said, that's how this country. And then you have the ones that probably do care to have some sort of pride of what they're selling as far as their product is concerned.
Speaker 2:And before you know it, man, I think you'll have a lot of men not just my age but older, and they probably are as we speak. There are men out there that are looking amazing, amazing, you know. I've already, if anything, I've seen a few who aren't, you know, in the upper 60s yet, you know, I would say maybe early 60s, and they're looking great. And this is without steroids. So the evolution of man is definitely getting better and better and we're becoming healthier and healthier. The more uh content that's out there, uh about, uh, how to be a better human, um, I think it'll. It'll just get us there. I don't know if I'm going to see it, uh in next time, but I hope I do. I hope I do so kind of find that way.
Speaker 2:So what's your take on testosterone therapy? Testosterone therapy, because people use that as steroids and it's not. No, you can't, because you're not getting, you're not going to get the amount of of juice that you require in order for you to get it right to, to build that the amount of muscle that you want. I think testosterone therapy is definitely good for for people as you and I know, um, as how old we were I don't remember how old we were when I I'm 47 right now, but I think there was probably.
Speaker 2:I know that you and I had spoken about I don't know if you want to mention it yourself that you know there are people out there who do suffer from low testosterone, right, they'll see, and actually I felt like I was one of them. There was a point in my life where I had to get tested for it because I felt, you know, I was kind of suffering for a few days and I thought maybe it was just low tests and, thank God, I went to check and they did my blood work and my test was not low, but it was normal, but at the low end of normal, yeah, and I believe the reason why it was low, at the low end of normal, was because of my way of living and that's probably why I felt like it was. But I believe if you do need it and you do suffer from low test, then by all means, man, it's something that I think it is a requirement, especially since you can't make that. I think it is a requirement, especially since you can't make normal testosterone levels that we need to make kind of their everyday basis. Right, and I don't know if you're okay with me mentioning something I spoke to a lot of, which was, as you know, that you told me that you had gotten tested and you came out with like C, correct? Yeah, I did. I had to go through testosterone therapy myself, correct, I remember.
Speaker 2:And so not that because of you also being tested and having low T, but I'm saying it's okay, it's more of like I think there is a way where we could use steroids to benefit humanity, because there's just times when we can't right, like there's just you were born with something that you were deficient of and your body cannot make it.
Speaker 2:And if there are physicians out there that can help you with therapies in this case, there, they're like therapy then they can. I mean, they use them when it comes to, you know, asthma and anything else, right? So why not? Why not be able to use them? In the world of science, it's, I think it's. If you're starting to manipulate them and use them excessively, let's say, then obviously then we run into the same story that we just spoke about, right, a whole lot of people dying and not being able to live a productive lifestyle because now you're basically abusing the steroids that are obviously helping you. So, yeah, I'm all for the whole idea of making sure that you use some sort of steroids to help you if you're not able to make your own hormones. That's for sure.
Speaker 2:You know, strange story about that, about when I had to go through testosterone therapy. Right, I did test with OT and everything right, and it did help me for somewhat. But what actually helped me in the long run was when I got diagnosed with diabetes and then I had to control my sugar. So the problem wasn't really the testosterone, it was my sugar. So my sugar now gives me wood. So, but you know, at the time they didn't, they weren't aware that I was pre-diabetic. Okay, wow, yeah. So if I would have controlled my sugar, I probably would have never gotten, I probably would have never taken therapy Therapy, right, if we knew that it was sugar. Any side effects from that therapy you took? No, I did not get any.
Speaker 2:You know, strange, I tried. I tried steroids early on. Um, when I started, when I was like in the beginning of my wrestling, my wrestling journey, and I did it because everyone else was fucking doing it. So I was like, yo, there's no way I'm going to be able to compete with these guys if I don't level the playing field Right. Way I'm going to be able to compute these guys if I don't level the playing field right. So I took steroids during that time and I did get some side effects, but the side effects were more like they were mood enhancement side effects. You know, okay, I was, you know I'd snap quicker, or I just had a bad mood. Or you know, okay, I was, you know I snapped quicker, or I just had a bad mood, or or you know it was just more mood stuff than than anything.
Speaker 2:Obviously I recovered from from my workouts. I worked out harder and was able to do everything better. But you know, mentally, my moods, I had more mood swings. But when I was diagnosed with low T and I was getting low doses of testosterone, that shit made me feel incredible. Okay it, yeah, because it's just like. I don't know what it was, but it was like it just something in my head where it made me happy all the fucking time. That's what. That's what testosterone does. It got me to a point where I was sick of being fucking happy. So that's exactly what, what a normal mood would be if you were at good levels at this time. That's exactly what it is. I was so chill. It was like I was drinking cognac every fucking day. Excuse me, it's like I started my day off with a fucking Mai Tai. I'm like yo, I'm chill, exactly. Oh man, that must have felt incredible. Yo, I want to get back on it now.
Speaker 2:So when you came off of it, right, like, let's say, you stopped taking it, yeah, I thought I should stop taking it. Did you have what's called the blues? Or because you were just taking micro-dosing? No, I didn't. You didn't have any side effects of that. The first, the first one, when I was young, I did get that because, like I said, yeah, I was young, I was already pissed off at the world and everything and you know, I was just frustrated. But when, the second time, when I got the therapy, when I got it, I just stayed chill. You didn't heal, I just stayed chill, even keel. You know what I'm saying. And, like I said, once we found out that it was really my blood sugar that was affecting me with ED problems, then that was like I didn't go through any crashes or anything like that.
Speaker 2:No, I'm still even in the queue right now. How did you? I'm asking, go ahead, it's your podcast right now. Ask me your questions, give me the Q&A now. Okay, good, go, go, go. No, I'm just asking a question because I want to know I'm playing with you guys what happened with as far as getting pre-diabetic, how did that happen? I'm only going to ask you that because I want to tell you about me, like what happened to me as well. No, it's fair, it's fair. I don't really know specifically what really happened with the pre diet, but how I became diabetic, to be honest with you. Um, because I didn't really eat sugar. You know what I'm saying. I didn't eat candy, I didn't eat sweets. No, I know that.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know what I think it was.
Speaker 2:It was normal for you. I think what it was. It's not that what I was having, it's how I was having it. I think the problem was that I was eating a lot. I was binging all the time, every time I eat. You know how we grow up and you eat with your family and your family tells you you better finish that plate. Okay, I'm finishing that plate. Yeah, that's how it was. I could go to those hamburger spots where they kind of have the big one-pound burger and if you eat it, it gets on the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I ate two of those, bro. Oh, jesus Christ, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So, like, I think what happened was that I was eating too much when I didn't, and it just was. My kidneys couldn't process all that and that's probably how I became diabetic. Plus, it's also hereditary, because of my mother. Yeah, I was going to say hereditary, was that? Yeah, so now I don't eat that way. I mean, like, I still eat bread, but not I have keto bread, I still have certain types of pasta, but I have to limit the amounts because if I eat like, like, if I eat like two whole potatoes, my sugar is going to go up to 200. I can have like a half a potato and more meat and vegetables and stuff like that, and I can't have I can't do two different types of carbs. You know what I'm saying? I can't have rice and I can't have potatoes. Different types of carbs. You know what I'm saying? I can't have rice and I can't have potatoes. No fucking way, I can't.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, isn't that typical of Latino communities? Yeah, always have carb on carb. What is wrong with us? Like, why do you have carb on carb and a little piece of protein? Oh yeah, and a little piece of salad or something? Yeah, it's the cheapest thing I guess it could be for someone who can't afford to obviously eat in abundance. But there's so many ways you could have stuff, man.
Speaker 2:And it goes back to us. It goes back to our children, right? Us as children. Right, we weren't taught correctly because that we weren't taught correctly, because our parents weren't taught correctly that kind of stuff. Yeah, you know what I'm saying and you better just start with what they were saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a generational thing, you know what I'm saying? Like my son, right? So my son, he's 14 years old and he's the last two, three years he's been going to the doctors and he's been diagnosed with hypertension and all this shit, right, and the doctor is telling him yo, you're not going to make 20 years old. And I'm like, how the fuck is he? How is he like that? Because he doesn't eat like that in my house, because in my house I have to eat a specific way because of my sugar. Yeah, and you have to eat what I eat, because that's the only thing I'm fucking cooking. Yeah, yeah, but it's also the outside world too. You know that we could have. No, it's also. Yeah, it's also when he's at his mother's house lately, they eat hard drunk cards and stuff like that. So I have.
Speaker 2:What I have to do is I have to sit down with my son and I've done this often, so far a couple of times and educate him on how to eat, and I've even taught him how to cook. You know what I'm saying. This is how you're going to cook, you're going to do this and that you can add seasoning, but seasoning is not going to, except for the salt. You know what I'm saying. You can't do salt, so do other stuff Garlic and stuff like that to add flavor and things like that. You know, let's all taste some real fresh garlic and olive oil and cook it with whatever chicken or eggs or whatever.
Speaker 2:I have to teach him, and there's been times where I've had him just cook for us and he cooked a healthy meal, yeah, but again, you can eat a horse's water, but we can't go drink it. Well, listen, all you can do is hope that. Yeah, all you can do is hope that he drinks it. Hey, I just yeah. Well, at least he's learning something right to do. Yeah, but I'm getting back to it. That's more than we could say for us when we were little, and that's more than we could say for our parents when they were little.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? No one led them to the well. They didn't even have the option not to drink. Yep, that's a different thing for them too. We were the same, right, we were the same. We did what was put in front of us and we had to finish it, and that's all that mattered, and that was the confidence that we all had. Whatever we do is what we have to finish, period. We need nothing on the plate, and that's what was told to you. So, yeah, I could tell you. That was told to you. So, yeah, yeah, now I can leave leftovers, bro. I leave it for the next day, like I just I can't, I'm not gonna eat it yeah just see what you can.
Speaker 2:I mean I, I get the same. I, I think, um, going back to this part too so I did dabble in a lot of that. I never did testosterone for sure, that's one thing. I never did that. Um, I did dabble in a lot of that. I never did testosterone for sure, that's one thing. I never did that. I did do, uh, growth hormone.
Speaker 2:Um, in my days this is before I decided to become healthier and I did a few other things that were more like, uh, let's see, I had this at Westville, I did Krakow, mon as the semi-final, and those are just, I guess, the exceptional ones in my day that I was thinking, because I didn't want to get big, I knew that if I had started taking testosterone, that not only would I get screwed up, but I was afraid to get screwed up, and also I knew that I would get too big for my short stature. I'm giving it away here, guys. I mean, I dabbled a little bit and I must admit I did get a side effect from one of the steroids, or at least one of the anabolics, as they're called, and I realized that I was becoming insulin resistant from it. What Insulin resistant? Oh, so that means you can't break it down. So obviously I stopped. But all in all, I don't think my test was ever on a low basis. As I said, it was probably the same thing as you.
Speaker 2:I was also eating really bad. There was a point in my life where I was really eating bad, so bad so that I went from me being 165 pounds to 230 pounds. What, yeah, no fucking way, I cannot imagine you over 200. Yeah, yeah, man, now you're small as fucking three, exactly. Imagine that I want to get fucking huge. Yeah, but no, but this, this, this is this wasn't muscular. This was not muscular at all. This is just, I was, uh, I was a really, really, you know, and I got really unhealthy, and I was.
Speaker 2:I must say I was pre-diabetic as well. Oh, for real. So you were pre-diabetic, yeah, I would say I was coming close to it. I remember seeing the doctor and they told me they told me, if I didn't stop, that they would just keep climbing up so they wouldn't lose some weight. And I really probably, now that I look back at it, it's the reason why I probably suffered from not just depression but anxiety, along with, obviously, you know, genetically I think I also was predisposed to it. So that just amplified the anxiety. That amplified me being that way, amplified the anxiety, amplified the depression, amplified a lot of things that were happening to me, not just physically but, you know, mentally and emotionally. Not just physically but mentally and emotionally. And I think I had to also stop in a way where if I didn't put down that spring I probably would have eaten myself to death or I would have probably been in a really bad place in my mind.
Speaker 2:So I took so, how much are you weighing?
Speaker 1:now.
Speaker 2:I am now down to 178. Oh, okay, that's more natural beef. Yeah, sure that I feel really good at this weight. I'm actually naturally when I'm at 170, I would say it feels really good, like you said. Right, you feel in a great mood and you said that the sugars went down and the shake level went down. Right, your glycerol probably went down. Everything starts to go down, and so this is when people start feeling better and the testosterone starts to climb up, because your body isn't struggling to maintain that balance. So I totally agree with you on having to do all these things that we did. Obviously, you had to go through hormone therapy, unlike me, but I think if I would have kept going, I probably would have had to do the same thing.
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