Defying Genres: Avatar's Identity, Anime's Global Influence, and Ghibli's Timeless Puzzles

Embark on a genre-defying journey as we grapple with the animated enigma that is "Avatar: The Last Airbender"—is it truly a Western cartoon, or does its soul beat with the heart of anime? In our latest Senpai of Someguy episode, we tear down the walls of categorization, venturing deep into the stylistic mélange that makes shows like "Avatar," "One Piece," and "Bakugan" beloved across the globe. Even the mighty merchandising machine behind these series comes under our discerning eye, as we frolic through the labyrinth of what truly defines a cartoon versus an anime.

Remember the good old days of Zoids and the dreaded un-rewound VHS tapes? We sure do, and we're bringing all that nostalgic goodness front and center. Our chat navigates the cultural crossroads of "Z-Laniels," that micro-generation straddling the line between Millennials and Gen Z, while we joyously rekindle memories of video store visits. It's not just about the past, though; we're also looking ahead, speculating on the anime treatment of Western superheroes with a sparkle in our eyes.

Studio Ghibli films—timeless classics or cinematic puzzles waiting to be solved? We're not shying away from the tough questions as we delve into Ghibli's masterpieces, examining how their narratives and animation styles can sometimes pose a delightful challenge. We throw a critical eye on AI-generated art and consider the profound soul that hand-crafted animation brings to our screens, teasing our curiosity for the upcoming film "Suzume." Join us for this heartfelt fusion of anime, pop culture, and the history that binds them, only here on Senpai of Someguy.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

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Speaker 2: 0:14

Put that straight in my toilet bowl, please. That's it. Put us in there, if you know, you know. If you know, you know, put some goggles on me, I'll look up and I'll watch it happen, that's it.

Speaker 1: 0:24

Well, you guys are lucky Because we're not going to be shit, but we are talking about it, guys. We're going to go into it, we're going to go right into the fire. Okay, it's not Viet Cong, but it's close.

Speaker 2: 0:34

It's not Viet Cong, it's close, it's a war zone. That was cool.

Speaker 1: 0:38

That was fun, I hope you.

Speaker 2: 0:39

Which was for listeners, only Listeners only. So shout out to our OGs, you know what?

Speaker 1: 0:43

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Speaker 2: 1:06

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Speaker 1: 1:12

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Speaker 2: 1:13

Instagram has the links as well.

Speaker 1: 1:15

Yeah. Instagram page yeah, get onto it. Support us guys. We've been doing this for a year now. We're nearly at a on YouTube. I don't really care because subscribers don't matter. No, do you want to insight guys into our behind the scenes? Yeah, totally that would be interesting.

Speaker 2: 1:29

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:29

We'll give you an insight behind the scenes. All right, so the YouTube algorithm at the moment, subscribers don't really matter. Yeah, it's because the percentage of subscribers that watch your video, like return view, is like nothing compared to new viewers watching a video. Yeah, like our subscribers. Right, we'll probably have like 17 subscribers watch our videos. The majority of the views are new people. Yeah, so pretty much you maybe get 10% or 20% of your subscribers that actually watch your content that continues to watch your content, kind of thing like an actual, like an old school subscriber.

Speaker 1: 2:06

Yeah, at this stage for us anyway.

Speaker 2: 2:08

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:08

Yeah, and like eventually you know if you get like a million right Obviously if you get a million subscribers, you're probably gonna get like 500,000 people watching. If you look at someone with a million subscribers, you probably understand how it works. Yeah, but so YouTube, every video, is based off that video, if that makes sense. So it's not like you just have to be good. But if you have a million, if you have a million subscribers, man, you're fine, you're fine. But if you're like us and we're just gonna like, we're just gonna grind bro.

Speaker 2: 2:38

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:39

From the streets.

Speaker 2: 2:40

Yep, we just got the knife, put it on the grindstone, sharpen that shit. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 2:44

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, sharpen it, cook some carrots, maybe Make a stew. Yeah, cut it up. Yeah, make a stew.

Speaker 2: 2:50

I made it strong enough for the first time.

Speaker 1: 2:51

last week Was it nice?

Speaker 2: 2:52

No, not really. I didn't really enjoy it. Did you put enough salt in it? Yeah, sugar, spice and everything nice Yep. That's how you make good food. Thank you, professor. Welcome, you're welcome, but pressure cookers, I'm all right. Pressure cookers, man Damn you like a pressure cooker.

Speaker 1: 3:13

Fuck yeah, I like a slow cooker, I like a pressure cooker. I find pressure cookers hold a bit too much fluid. Yeah, and they kind of diluted curry. Yeah, they do, they do. Yeah, they do. But I like a slow cook. It lets the steam out gradually, it's not too intense. But I mean, pressure cook is great for like yeah, if you want it done quick yeah, yeah, that's the thing that's.

Speaker 2: 3:36

Yeah, that's what, um, yeah, um, that's the advertisement.

Speaker 1: 3:42

That's the thing that they put on themselves for people to buy them. Oh, pressure makes diamonds, baby. Pressure makes done. Oh man, if you, if I mean if you're a fan of the podcast, this is the podcast, yeah this is we go to talk about a subject end up talking about fucking pressure. Yeah, yeah, it's strong enough I don't know.

Speaker 2: 4:03

That's all right, dude. That's us. Yeah, it is what it is. This is where we go to talk about a subject, end up talking about fucking pressure cooking. Yeah, sorry, man.

Speaker 1: 4:07

I don't know, that's all right, dude, that's us.

Speaker 2: 4:08

Yeah, it is what it is, that's what we do. I am what I am and I am the senpai you are.

Speaker 1: 4:13

You know about cooking, I know about cooking. We're going to be talking about kitchen nightmares today. Kitchen nightmares oh, doing an Episode. Breakdown of Kitchen Night.

Speaker 2: 4:21

And welcome our special guest.

Speaker 1: 4:23

Gordon Ramsay, gordon Ramsay. We couldn't get Gordon Ramsay, so we've got a guy that looks like him.

Speaker 2: 4:29

That would be cool though.

Speaker 1: 4:30

That would be fucking cool.

Speaker 2: 4:31

That would have been. Yeah, like just imagine if that happened. Would have been sick.

Speaker 1: 4:35

Would it be the best episode we've ever had? Yes, probably A guy that could imitate Gordon Ramsay perfectly.

Speaker 2: 4:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:41

I'm in already Super sick. Okay, we're getting on our topic. Here we go, guys. This is coming closer. You ready Coming closer? Build up the tension. Can you feel that? Can I get a bit of a beat, a little dramatic beat? No, come on A bit better. Yeah, all right, guys, we're talking about it. Is Avatar, the Last Airbender, a cartoon or an anime? All right, let's go. I'm going to play devil's advocate. What are you going to play? Which side are you on? First of all, which side am I on? I'll try and find the perspective on the other side.

Speaker 1: 5:27

I don't know. See, this is how hard this question is. Yeah, it's a hard question.

Speaker 2: 5:30

Yeah, I'd like to.

Speaker 1: 5:34

I'd like to make a call? Yeah, can.

Speaker 2: 5:36

I get a hint. Can you get a hint?

Speaker 1: 5:42

It's your opinion, bro. Can I get a hint? Can I get a hint of your opinion please?

Speaker 2: 5:47

I don't know For me. I've always thought of Avatar as the bridge between two worlds. Oh, fuck me.

Speaker 1: 5:57

Dad, jesus Christ, here we go. You get what I mean. Jesus Christ, you get what I mean.

Speaker 2: 6:03

As the Avatar is the bridge between two worlds. I get you, I feel like it's the same, but for argument's sake I'm going to say that Avatar Is An enemy.

Speaker 1: 6:14

We'll go with that. We'll go with that.

Speaker 2: 6:15

Okay For argument's sake, I'll say it's an enemy.

Speaker 1: 6:19

For argument's sake, I am actually On the other side of this, so I I am actually on the other side of this.

Speaker 2: 6:23

I believe it's a cartoon.

Speaker 1: 6:24

I believe it's a cartoon, okay.

Speaker 2: 6:26

Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1: 6:27

All right, let's go. Do you have a first argument of why you think that Avatar Last Airbender is an anime.

Speaker 2: 6:38

Yes, for me, anime is all about cool, crisp animation, storytelling, a linear story, a linear story, a linear story and honestly, all I really put down anime too, is the style of animating the characters. Like you can really tell the difference between an anime and a cartoon. You know what I mean. Like if you're looking at the regular show Cartoon.

Speaker 1: 7:11

Cartoon.

Speaker 2: 7:12

Yeah, you know what I mean. You're looking at Gumball Cartoon, yep. Like you can just like there's that distinct kind of difference between a cartoon and an anime.

Speaker 1: 7:23

And I just I've always seen ang as an animation character, anime, cartoon, not gotcha yes, okay I'm gonna, I'm gonna debate you on that yeah, yeah, you tell me okay I think that wrong. It's fucking yeah okay was.

Speaker 2: 7:43

This is a Reddit conversation. Can't just fucking know me, bro, my bad.

Speaker 1: 7:47

Alright, I think it's a cartoon, yeah, but Inspired by anime, oh Okay, but it's still a cartoon, because to me, I guess it depends what you define Like anime as right. To me it's just a Japanese animation. It's anime, fair enough. It wasn't made by A Japanese studio.

Speaker 2: 8:05

Made by.

Speaker 1: 8:05

Americans. It was inspired by the anime art style but also at the same time, I think Avatar's got a unique it does. It's got its own little like. It's a unique kind of mix between cartoon and like some of the quips they do. If you look at some of the quips they do, it's very like cartoony still.

Speaker 2: 8:22

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:23

And obviously the fight scenes are probably anime inspired. Yeah, To a sense, but I can still see like cartoon there and also the way that they're written is very cartoonish compared to an anime. The anime usually has like the goofy character, but I'd say the writing's a bit more like. But maybe that's because it's the way that Avatar was pushed out to a different audience.

Speaker 2: 8:47

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:48

Like an anime is always to like Japanese, because that's their main niche. Yeah, it was like probably Western kids, 100% Avatar. Yeah, that's my main point. So I think it's a cartoon inspired by anime-like tropes, in a sense.

Speaker 2: 9:06

Bridge between the two worlds.

Speaker 1: 9:08

The bridge between the two worlds. We're not talking about that. The bridge between two worlds, because I never heard of an anime that well, actually there is. There's an anime. This is a good argument. There's an anime that has tropes from a cartoon style. What One Piece. Yes, tom and Jerry, so Ah yes, does that mean that One Piece is a cartoon? Because it has Cartoon?

Speaker 2: 9:38

tropes? No, it doesn't.

Speaker 1: 9:39

It's still an anime Inspiration.

Speaker 2: 9:42

You like it, okay, that's my argument. I see where you're coming from. I see the loaf of bread you're putting down, you like it. Okay, that's my argument. I see where you're coming from. I see I see the loaf of bread You're putting down, you like it. You want to cut it, put some butter on it, slice it, put some Butter On top of that, put some dog hair on.

Speaker 1: 9:55

I don't think that's your brand. Man Butter, you got a lot of butter.

Speaker 2: 9:58

Butter clothing. Yeah, I got this and the other piece for Christmas. Yeah, it's very nice. Thanks, nate, talia, love you guys. Yeah, it's very cool, very cool. This is Fantasia. By the way, this is their Fantasia. Oh, that's why you got Mickey on the back. That's why I got Mickey on the back.

Speaker 1: 10:16

Got you. Yeah, very cool. I wish I could make a brand name and just like collab with all these people Just call it like Bowl, yeah, and people just fucking buy it. Yeah, yeah, you do that.

Speaker 2: 10:28

There's this brand coming up in New Zealand. I don't know their name, but they're literally just ripping off butter. Oh, okay, a bit ruthless, yeah. Brandon tried to get me to buy some stuff from him. I said no, I will not.

Speaker 1: 10:40

I would not be ripping off. I mean that's pretty much. Everyone rips off everyone. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. Anyway, continue the argument. Sorry guys for the sponsorship Non-sponsored.

Speaker 2: 10:52

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Yeah, yeah, I don't really think there's.

Speaker 1: 11:00

Have I stumped you.

Speaker 2: 11:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm stumped. You, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm stumped. So I didn't really have an argument to begin with, because you're in the state of like you don't really have a place for it.

Speaker 1: 11:14

It's kind of got its own If we had like a, it's got a special place, is it a?

Speaker 2: 11:17

diagram. Diagram the circles. Yeah, I don't know what that's called, but I don't know, I can't remember what it's called. You know that circle?

Speaker 1: 11:23

thing where it joins in.

Speaker 2: 11:24

Yeah, the middle's the same. Joseph, you can reply because you're a nerd. Tell us what it is, put it in the comments.

Speaker 1: 11:28

I don't fucking know what it is, know it all. Yeah, thanks bro, thanks bro, just put that in the comments. Thank Conjoining circles. Avatar would fit in there, yep, but I still Center stage. Yeah, I wonder what would happen If I watched it With Japanese dub. Would I change my mind? Is there Japanese dub of?

Speaker 2: 11:54

I don't know.

Speaker 1: 11:54

Avatar. But Surely, right, I don't know, surely, I never looked it up. But if there was, like a Japanese dub Version of Avatar, I wonder who's Aang? I'd be interested to know the feel with the vibe change of the show. Would it feel more like an anime to me? Probably, probably right, yeah, but I still see it as a cartoon.

Speaker 2: 12:16

Yeah, like the line between cartoon and anime was so blurred for me growing up because the shows that were on TV when I was growing up were anime. Yeah, but to me they were just cartoons. Yeah, like you know. Yeah, pokemon, dragon Ball Z, yeah, yu-gi-oh, like all of those shows that we grew up watching Beyblades they were all Japanese animes is Bakugan.

Speaker 1: 12:41

Is that a cartoon or is that an anime? That's anime too. Yeah, weird, that felt like a cartoon to Bakugan. No, it's not, I know, but it felt like.

Speaker 2: 12:46

Bakugan's no, bakugan's cartoon oh, it's cartoon, that's what I mean. It felt like it had like a cartoon to me. Bakugan no, it's not. I know but it felt like Bakugan's. No, bakugan's cartoon oh, it's cartoon. That's what I mean.

Speaker 1: 12:52

It felt like it had like a cartoon vibe. Yeah, I don't think it had. Yeah, I feel like it was when they started realising, like once Beyblade came out, yeah and Yu-Gi-Oh, and they were like, oh, we can make money off these, let's make a show based on the toy. Yeah, I reckon that's why they made Bakugan. Bakugan was pretty cool, though it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 13:10

It wasn't as cool as Beyblade, though. No, it wasn't or Yu-Gi-Oh or Crush Gear. They were on the same level as Yu-Gi-Oh.

Speaker 1: 13:15

Crush Gear. Baby, Don't get me started.

Speaker 2: 13:17

Crush Gear was real good.

Speaker 1: 13:35

God damn, crush Gear, bro. Weird, the same as like metabots and a lot of people. Yeah, I don't know about metabots. Yeah, yeah, and like zatch bell where's zoids? So it's, I mean they have one good season.

Speaker 2: 13:40

the other season aren't that good, but the toys were sick zoid toys, I don't know. I I deeply love the original zoids zoids, chaotic century, I think it's called, and that's called, and that's the one about Van and Shield Liger and it's like it's full on a rebel versus like empire.

Speaker 1: 14:00

That's sick Style show, you know.

Speaker 2: 14:01

and he starts off as like some fucking kid from you know, just like a merchant place, dirt, poor. And then he comes across Zeke, which is the organoid which are living zoids. Yeah, they have like their own autonomy and hearts and souls and all that shit. And then he finds Shield Liger and his organoid straight into the Shield Liger and it boosts all the capabilities of the zoid that it merges with it'd be cool to go back and watch.

Speaker 1: 14:33

I loved it.

Speaker 2: 14:34

A zoid a zoid watch, rewatch and that like season two, even like after the time skip, even better man whoa. So good, so good, but like everyone really like growing up, the only zoids people really watched was the Liger Zero.

Speaker 1: 14:52

Yeah, everyone had Liger. Yeah, liger was the toy everyone had. Yeah but Liger was like damn Liger.

Speaker 2: 14:59

Yeah, that only had like 20 episodes. Yeah, it was very short, Very short.

Speaker 1: 15:03

And apparently the other seasons are pretty.

Speaker 2: 15:04

The other one. Yeah, it's got like 80 episodes. Damn yeah so Well, re-watch time. Give it a watch. Give the original a watch with Van and Fiona Blast from the Past recommendation.

Speaker 1: 15:16

Yeah, Blast from the Past recommendation. What's it?

Speaker 2: 15:18

called Recommendation Zoids. I'm pretty sure it's called Chaotic Century. But I don't know. Chaotic Century might be the Liger Zero Yep and it just might be called Zoids Chaotic. No, it is. It's Zoids Chaotic Century Yep. That's the one. 1999 it came out and we old boy?

Speaker 1: 15:42

Yeah, we old man. Do you know? We were Born before Google? Yeah, that's fucked.

Speaker 2: 15:48

Yeah, man.

Speaker 1: 15:49

That's so fucked. I feel very old, but at the same time, out of all generations guys, we grew up in the best anime we're millennial content dude. No, we're kind of we're on, like we're in between wherever you go.

Speaker 2: 16:06

I actually looked it up it's 96 or 95. We're called Z-Laniels. Yeah, I looked it up. So.

Speaker 1: 16:12

I was like we're in between, we're on the cusp of both, yeah, the start of Z and the end of a millennial. So they call us Z-Laniels because we kind of relate to both. Yeah, that's why we're fucking sick cunts. I'm fucking sick cunts, fully fucking sick cunts.

Speaker 2: 16:29

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:29

Yeah, so we can be friends with both.

Speaker 2: 16:32

Yeah, it's like 95, 97 is kind of like the.

Speaker 1: 16:35

Yeah. That's that midsection where they were like oh, we don't know what you are Because kids that are born in 2000s kind of understand like watch some of the stuff we grew up with. Yeah, because we were still young when we were growing up.

Speaker 2: 16:45

Yeah, it really depends On who you grew up with, though. Like if you were the young. If you were a young brother or sister In the 2000s, yeah, but like if you were the oldest, completely different.

Speaker 1: 16:57

Yeah, I was the youngest.

Speaker 2: 16:59

Yeah, I know, but like Like my brother Brandon, he was born in 99. If me and Tony Weren't his older brothers. He probably wouldn't have watched A lot of the shit that we were into.

Speaker 1: 17:09

Very true, he would have watched, like All the new stuff.

Speaker 2: 17:11

If he was, you know, the oldest, it would have been completely different.

Speaker 1: 17:14

Yeah, he would have heard like Bakugan would have been like yeah, because he was into Bakugan. Yeah, you know what I?

Speaker 2: 17:19

mean yeah, yeah, I meant like that, but you were like You're the youngest in 96, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, damn.

Speaker 1: 17:26

That was a good era, man. Good era. That was when you could go to like the markets and find some crush gear. Video stores 25 bucks yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:34

It was pretty expensive back then. Video stores are legit Like I remember going to the video store when they still had videos. Yeah. That's pretty far Like no DVDs, yeah, just videos. It was VHS and like literally the worst fucking thing about those places was people never rewound the tape. Oh yes, you put it in and you have to like and then, because you're rewinding, you'll see like little clips of the whole fucking movie. You have to like close your eyes.

Speaker 2: 18:01

Yeah, and like wait for it to go click and then like, yeah, sweet press play, let's go yeah 100%. So we grew up yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:09

I think our generation is probably best to Pick out Cartoon versus anime, because we grew up with both. Yeah, badass, avatar's definitely in between. Yeah, I'm happy to say Bakugan is a cartoon. Yeah, me too. Fling some shit at us guys. Yeah, that's what we like. Fling some. Maybe give us some other questions, some other shows you think that are maybe in between that anime and cartoon category and we'll talk about it. Yeah, see what's up, we'll look at it ourselves. Oh, yeah, well, they're anime. X-men I mean X-Men is a cartoon. They've done an anime version of X-Men, which was great.

Speaker 2: 18:47

You should watch that if you haven't watched that you should watch the anime version of X-Men Wolverine and Iron man all created by Japanese.

Speaker 1: 18:54

Very good there's also an anime, batman, you should watch as well yeah, that's also good. Japan, japan, are you on Shogun? Yeah, god damn it dude. Sorry, god damn it dude. We're gonna do a Shogun episode. I know it's not anime themed, but it's close enough. It's close enough.

Speaker 2: 19:13

We are anime and pop culture. And let me just add on another tagline.

Speaker 1: 19:19

History. Everything you need in one place, in one place On Senpai for some guy. In the Blackthorn dudes voice On Senpai for some guy, on Senpai for some guy. And In the Blackthorn dude's voice On Senpai of some guy, on Senpai of some guy. Thank you, the Japans. That's how he said the Japanese, the Japans.

Speaker 2: 19:39

I can't wait to watch it Is that the white guy. Yeah, he's like British as fuck dude. Yeah, yeah. He sort of looks like Tom Hardy.

Speaker 1: 19:47

He sort of looks like a lot of people Looks like.

Speaker 2: 19:48

Aaron Taylor as well. He definitely looks like Aaron Taylor. Yeah, sexy, yeah, craven the hunter, craven the hunter. Except he looks like a less, he looks like a homeless version.

Speaker 1: 20:00

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:04

I didn't want to say it, dude. I didn't want to say it. It's fine, I'll say it.

Speaker 1: 20:07

But we're there Homeless man energy.

Speaker 2: 20:08

We went there. I don't want to give it. He's a good actor though. The Veebs man. We're all about the Veebs, we're all about the Veebs.

Speaker 1: 20:15

Looks like a nice guy though. Yeah, come on the show, bro. Yeah, I'm going to keep asking.

Speaker 2: 20:20

You should just start sending Fucking full like Group emails out To everyone.

Speaker 1: 20:24

Every celebrity is trying to get one person Consistently send out emails. Please come on the show.

Speaker 2: 20:31

Please Instagram.

Speaker 1: 20:32

She's got it on.

Speaker 2: 20:33

Instagram too Be funny. Help us so lazy bro Cake.

Speaker 1: 20:39

Help us.

Speaker 2: 20:41

No, we can't do that. Shout out Clayton, big dog. Shout out Clayton, yeah.

Speaker 1: 20:48

Love you dog. Come on the show. That might be fucking cool. Actually, that'd be cool. Yeah, that'd be fucking sick. Chicken burger, chicken burger, bro. I'd cook with you bro. Yeah, clayton, cook up a fucking storm.

Speaker 2: 20:59

Yeah, sean and Marley.

Speaker 1: 21:01

Let's do a slow cook lamb.

Speaker 2: 21:02

My bro they're probably my three favourite Sean and Marley. Sean and Marley.

Speaker 1: 21:07

Oh, okay, there's two of them.

Speaker 2: 21:08

Sorry, I was like you love Sean O'Malley.

Speaker 1: 21:10

I was random as.

Speaker 2: 21:11

Nah, looking forward to June, though UFC cards in June Looking pretty fucking.

Speaker 1: 21:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:18

Exquisite You're getting better. Yeah, you're getting better. Anyways, I wish I'd bet on Garcia man, oh you wish you bet on him.

Speaker 1: 21:27

Yeah, I'm not in. I don't bet on boxing. I think it's rigged. I don't bet on anything.

Speaker 2: 21:31

I think it was an upset, though they were paying $14 for Garcia.

Speaker 1: 21:35

Yeah, I think it was very like. Usually you can even tell like we're going off topic. But that's right We've done. Now. This is for the anime people. Maybe you're like up to date, but you got a little section there. We'll come back to it for the listeners. So if you watch boxing, there's like Devin Haney versus Ryan Garcia. Garcia was acting all crazy and shit yeah like he's coped up.

Speaker 1: 21:58

Yeah, like acting all crazy, kind of like putting on a bit of a show to make his opponent fucked. He bet on himself $2 million to win, so he won $20 million. Yeah, crazy Big dog. But if you look in that fight, the ref continuously was helping Devin Haney. Yeah, so he's just lucky that he got three knockdowns, because if he got one, I still think they would have found a way to make him lose the decision. Yeah, so that's why I don't really like betting on a big reading on boxing. I just think it's a bit. It's a bit rigged. There's always like a winner set up, unless it's like a super fight and that both sides are kind of even. Yeah, look at the Tim zoo, for example. That fight should have been stopped, mmm, but they didn't do it because the people who put their organization on signed the fedora guy, so they want him to have the championship. That's just how it works, dude.

Speaker 1: 22:55

That much blood, everyone says fourth round probably should have been stopped. Yeah, the doctor's ridiculous.

Speaker 2: 23:02

Yeah, it's rigged. Sorry, rigged Doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1: 23:08

Doesn't make sense. What else else we want to talk about today, man?

Speaker 2: 23:12

oh I um I watched a. I watched a um, it's like an older ghibli movie, like I don't know. It's pretty cool how netflix has been like chucking in pretty much their whole catalog. So it's like you know, you know the main ones. You know spir, spirited Away, princess Mononoke, howl's Moving Castle. I feel like those are the three main ones. There's more, there's more, there's way more, yeah, but like, oh, like the mainies. Yeah you kind of like grew up.

Speaker 1: 23:46

They were like on 3D air TV growing up.

Speaker 2: 23:49

Ponyo, my neighbour Totoro Mali Mali was here. Yeah, see that one, I think that one's quite niche. Oh, is that niche? Yeah, I feel like that. One's like a I really like that one. Yeah, I haven't watched it yet. I want to, but I watched um whisper of the heart. Yeah, I watched it too, did a quick google to see what the actual name was. I thought it was heart. Yeah, you tripped me out once or something. I was like, I was like, oh, I haven't watched that.

Speaker 1: 24:14

Yeah, whisper of the heart and I was like, I was like I watched this one about a cat and he was like, oh yeah, that's, that's the one, that's the one. Yeah, what did you think Really?

Speaker 2: 24:24

good. I thoroughly enjoyed it. So cute, like it was a real sweet, cute story it was. Eh, there was no real like Like, yeah, like in a lot of Miyazaki's works, it's like there's, there's always some sort of Catastrophe that's Befallen Wherever they are. Yeah, this one was kind of just like easygoing. It's just like the catastrophe is like what she wants to do with her future, yeah, which is like you know what I mean. Like I thought it was beautiful.

Speaker 1: 24:58

Also like, fine, like sacrificing love, like she. I don't know if you, I don't want to spoil it, but it's also like about love, like when you find that person that you like, would you give up everything for them. Or if you love something, like if you let it go, will it come back? Yeah, come back, kind of thing. If it's meant to be. Yeah, it's a great little Love story, man.

Speaker 2: 25:25

Yeah, it's just a really nice Little love story With some Themes of what it means to be an adult. In a relationship really Taught to you by A couple of teenagers. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:36

It's really nice. Yeah, it's not, it's not pushed on you either, you just kind of watch it and it's just a nice little, very like, like wholesome. Yeah, super country road is like they play country road it's very weird.

Speaker 2: 25:47

But they when it started and like country roads playing, I was like it's a big song there, man, yeah, it's weird, it's just weird that it's in a ghibli movie like it's weird, but yeah, it plays a big part in the in the story yeah um, pretty good it was it's very nice, it's good, it's a good story.

Speaker 1: 26:04

I'm trying to think of another one. Did you say Castle in the Sky before? No, I didn't say Castle in the Sky. Castle in the Sky is good, yeah, porco. Rosso Kiki's Delivery Service.

Speaker 2: 26:13

I love Kiki's Delivery Service. Probably my top five, maybe even top three.

Speaker 1: 26:18

I watched the start of it and I fell asleep, so I need to keep watch, but I was tired it was one of my, like you know, I put a night movie on and I was like I'll try and stay up. Yeah, buzzed out, so I need to watch that one. I wonder what I haven't watched day there's quite a few that I've.

Speaker 2: 26:32

I haven't watched um tales of earth sea I really some people don't like it.

Speaker 1: 26:37

I actually enjoyed it. Some weird parts, but um, actually the ending's a bit weird but yeah, yeah, I haven't watched Porco Rosso I haven't watched that one either.

Speaker 2: 26:50

I haven't watched Castle in the Sky.

Speaker 1: 26:52

I think you'll like that.

Speaker 2: 26:55

Is it the Wind of Norsca? That's a good movie. I haven't seen that one. That's a good movie. Yeah, all Studio Ghibli movies are good.

Speaker 1: 27:07

I think there's like a yeah Misconception that all Studio Ghibli movies are like Fantastic they're not all fantastic. No, actually found it really hard to watch Princess. Yeah, yeah, I found it hard to watch it was Like the animation was different too.

Speaker 2: 27:23

Yeah, yeah, just felt I don't know, just felt different. I just couldn't to watch.

Speaker 1: 27:25

The animation was different too. Yeah, just felt I don't know, just felt different, I just couldn't get into it.

Speaker 2: 27:29

It was super different compared to like how we normally.

Speaker 1: 27:32

Yeah and maybe always feel like you need to rewatch stuff just to like give it another chance. So I will give it another chance eventually. But yeah, I mean, we've got so much shit to watch, dude. But how good was animation dude, but how like, how good is, how good was animation, bro? I really.

Speaker 2: 27:52

I recently saw this video um of um. What's his name?

Speaker 1: 27:54

again the creator miyazaki miyazaki. Um, and they were talking, it's like a board meeting they were talking about. I think they were like sampling ai art to him yeah, saying this is what we can do with ai art and and bro, he was just like not impressed.

Speaker 2: 28:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:05

He's like what is this shit? Eh, Bro, he was like it's like there's no heart, there's no soul.

Speaker 2: 28:11

Yeah, I feel like you feel that, from whatever he's done.

Speaker 1: 28:13

Yeah, like if you watch, I think what made Outer Boy and the Hound really good is it felt like it was made.

Speaker 2: 28:21

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:22

If you could feel the drawer, you could feel like yeah, the art, if that makes sense. In every, in every scene I feel like that's.

Speaker 2: 28:29

That's the main, one of the main selling points of. Studio Ghibli, is that it. You can feel the love and, like the commitment that they have to their style yeah, and how much work they put in. You can feel it throughout the whole movie.

Speaker 1: 28:49

And put in. You can feel it throughout the whole movie. And that's like when you watch like stuff these days, I feel like that's not there, it's just rushed, kind of basic. Yeah, there's not much heart like effort put into it. There's no different artistry like yeah, and I hope studio ghibli keeps that. I think that's what the movie was about. Man, now that I've like seen that video, I think it's kind of like a big fuck you I think, I think it, I think it's like this is how you make a fucking movie.

Speaker 1: 29:07

Yeah, straight up, don't, don't destroy what I've built. Yeah, don't try to think that you've got your righteous and you're thinking this is what. This is what I made movies based on, like actual life.

Speaker 2: 29:19

Yeah, shit. Well, I will. I will say in defense that your Name their World.

Speaker 1: 29:29

I don't think it's got anything to do with your Name.

Speaker 2: 29:34

No, I mean like, just like I will say that their oh, they got heart, though their style, yeah, has that kind of yeah, you know what I mean, that's what I mean, but they've made their, that's their style. And you see how people copy it. Like, look at Netflix, they tried to copy it with that bubble and you see how people copy it Like look at Netflix.

Speaker 1: 29:43

They tried to copy it With that bubble, the bubble movie. That was fucking shit. Yeah, that was a horrible Fucking movie. Yeah, sorry, if you liked it. If you liked it, tell me why. I don't know. I thought, it was pretty shit. Just being honest, nothing against the creators. Maybe you just missed the mark On the.

Speaker 2: 29:59

The meaning of the movie. Yeah, the plot's a bit weird. I like yeah. So it's like what is it? It's your name, weathering, weathering with you, susame and Susame, yeah, so good, they all link together Some way.

Speaker 1: 30:12

Some way somehow.

Speaker 2: 30:12

Normally it's just a ribbon.

Speaker 1: 30:14

We'll be talking about Susame Once he finishes it. He's halfway through it. Yeah, I don't think we ever did a Susame. No, we didn't, because you didn't watch. Watch it.

Speaker 2: 30:22

No, we were supposed to go watch it at the cinema, yeah but now it's on netflix, right yeah, it's on netflix, yeah so if you're, if you're listening this week, go watch susan.

Speaker 1: 30:30

May you probably do something on it next week. Have a little chat about it, get it going, um, and talk about your thoughts on it. I'm gonna leave mine so far quite like there until you've watched it so far, quite like, yeah, it's very quirky, yeah, it's very, very funny. I found. Suzume really funny.

Speaker 2: 30:45

Yeah, she's quite funny. I think the Well I'm not going to spoil it.

Speaker 1: 30:48

I'm not going to spoil it. I'm not going to spoil it.

Speaker 2: 30:51

Yeah, I'm watching it in English too.

Speaker 1: 30:54

I watched it in Japanese.

Speaker 2: 30:58

Yeah, the girl who plays Suzume? No, I didn't, I watched it in English yeah, she's the girl from Superstore. Yeah, hilarious, she's funny. I watched it in English.

Speaker 1: 31:07

Yeah, so do that. That's probably us for this episode. So if you liked this, if you're listening to us, leave a starly review. That helps us out. Let us know, please. We're going to be more active on Reddit. So Reddit, so come Senpai of some guy Reddit page, yeah, comment. We'll probably put some Questions up there Trying to build that Community up, yep, with you guys, and everything you say Will probably go to Future episodes Hells, yeah, and stuff like that. So get amongst it, give us a like, share us. It really helps. If you're on YouTube, watch us on YouTube, yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:42

Go check out the highlights.

Speaker 1: 31:43

If you want to watch us, our faces while we do this shit, or past episodes, or past episodes, we've got full episodes they're going to stay on there, so stay there, um, but yeah, going forward. Just highlights from yeah, the thing this works better for us it's gonna work.

Speaker 2: 31:57

Yeah, working shorts, yeah, yeah, shorts will still be happening, so we're posting on um instagram and tiktoks and shit like that so. That's pretty much, yeah, if you. If you want more, just let us know. Just let us know and just listen. You know it's communication. We don't really know.

Speaker 1: 32:13

Let us know. Yeah let us know, man, you gotta let us know. Oh, bro, have you seen Quiet On Set?

Speaker 2: 32:20

Not yet Got it queued up. Nah, bro, how'd you watch it? What's it on Binge Binge? I got two months free. Nice, it's a KO. I should do that. Yeah, you should get the free month and watch it yeah, do it. Very interesting. Anyway, we'll leave that for next time. It's a great way to ruin your childhood to not know we'll see you next week.

Speaker 1: 32:43

See you later, bye, no-transcript.