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Jacob Payne: Leveling Up Local Business with Retro Jake's Arcade Cafe

December 21, 2023 Kevin Shook
Jacob Payne: Leveling Up Local Business with Retro Jake's Arcade Cafe
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Jacob Payne: Leveling Up Local Business with Retro Jake's Arcade Cafe
Dec 21, 2023
Kevin Shook

When Jacob Payne decided to amplify his arcade experience by integrating a café at Retro Jake's in Richmond, Indiana, he wasn't just playing games—he was rewriting the rules of local business with a joystick in one hand and an espresso shot in the other. Our recent sit-down with this visionary entrepreneur uncovers the stirring narrative of his ascent, marked by the challenges he faced and the sacrifices demanded to keep the neon lights on. Jacob's tale isn't just about his triumphs; it's a raw, no-coin-spared account of the relentless determination and personal evolution it took to craft a thriving haven for gamers and coffee aficionados alike.

Amidst the pixels and lattes, this episode also zooms out to the broader canvas of community, a theme as vibrant as the arcade screens themselves. As I reflect on my own ties to Richmond—buoyed by my love for local pizza joints and the tranquil respite of Glen Miller Park—I'm reminded of how integral places like IU East are in nurturing thriving local scenes. But what truly powers the pixel is people: from Jacob's unshakeable pillar, his wife Abby, to the indispensable Anthony Gunther, who helps keep the high scores rolling. And let's not forget the symphony of neighboring shops that give Retro Jake's its unique backdrop, inviting you to plug into a community where everyone, including the competition, contributes to the electric buzz of innovation and camaraderie.

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When Jacob Payne decided to amplify his arcade experience by integrating a café at Retro Jake's in Richmond, Indiana, he wasn't just playing games—he was rewriting the rules of local business with a joystick in one hand and an espresso shot in the other. Our recent sit-down with this visionary entrepreneur uncovers the stirring narrative of his ascent, marked by the challenges he faced and the sacrifices demanded to keep the neon lights on. Jacob's tale isn't just about his triumphs; it's a raw, no-coin-spared account of the relentless determination and personal evolution it took to craft a thriving haven for gamers and coffee aficionados alike.

Amidst the pixels and lattes, this episode also zooms out to the broader canvas of community, a theme as vibrant as the arcade screens themselves. As I reflect on my own ties to Richmond—buoyed by my love for local pizza joints and the tranquil respite of Glen Miller Park—I'm reminded of how integral places like IU East are in nurturing thriving local scenes. But what truly powers the pixel is people: from Jacob's unshakeable pillar, his wife Abby, to the indispensable Anthony Gunther, who helps keep the high scores rolling. And let's not forget the symphony of neighboring shops that give Retro Jake's its unique backdrop, inviting you to plug into a community where everyone, including the competition, contributes to the electric buzz of innovation and camaraderie.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to another episode of our community. Welcome, and I'm sitting here with today's guest from Retro, jake's Jacob Payne. Welcome, jacob. Hey, thanks for having me, man. Hey, thanks for being here, jacob, it's a pleasure. What's going on in your world?

Speaker 2:

Wow. So it's Christmas time right now, so it's pretty hectic right now. We're open up with machines, we're opening up a cafe in the arcade to serve our customers. There's a lot going on. It's kind of nonstop.

Speaker 1:

So how does stuff like that come together? You just want to put a cafe in an arcade.

Speaker 2:

So essentially, you know what we're here to bring is an experience. You know, for the longest time I've said you know we have to bring an experience to Richmond, indiana. So that was a big thing, you know, with the game store that's great, with the arcade was a start of a better experience and the cafe is just to add to the experience.

Speaker 1:

So I had the opportunity to connect with you last week at your store and I was blown away. Just the merchandise, the different you know lines of products, then the arcade side, and then now you're adding the cafe. Tell me about you, like, where does all come from?

Speaker 2:

You know, I've always wanted you know to do something to make a difference. You know, I think in business I feel like if you're, if you're not growing, you're dying and it's just a con. I got to try to find ways to constantly be better. It's kind of an obsession, you know, with me is how how can I be better, how can we do things better, and that's, I'd say that's a good trait and a bad trait at the same time, but I'd say it's, it's got me to where, you know, we are right now, with the expansion and doing things outside of the box that I'm not used to. I feel like you don't grow in your comfort zone and when you're out of your comfort zone, you're doing stuff that you haven't done before and you're succeeding. That's that's growth and that's that's what I think has been the biggest thing for me is just stepping outside of my comfort zone and doing things. I'm like you know what, never done this before. We're going to do it and we're going to, we're going to see how it works. You know so what you do before.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, so I, I bounced around from a lot of jobs. You know it was. It was hard for me for a lot of reasons you know I have. I have problem with my leg, I had bone cancer when I was 15 years old, so everything's good. I've been cancer free for the last 10 years. So, yeah, heck, yeah, I've been good there, awesome. So I I bounced around from a lot of jobs for a lot of reasons and, yeah, so I did a lot of factory, a little bit of fast food, just a little bit of everything Good name, and I probably did it.

Speaker 1:

So what? What now? Now, I'm really passionate about this part of what. So what changed with you? This that make that shift? That, hey, I want to. I want to be an entrepreneur, I want to open my own store. I mean, what was that? What, what, what made the light bulb go off?

Speaker 2:

Um, I'm going to say you know, my son, when my son was born, it it didn't, it wasn't about me anymore. Um, something clicked to where it was like hey, you know, I'm not just providing for me, I'm just providing for this, for this child that needs me. And I would say that's what kind of got me out of um where I was and kind of made things go okay, well, let's do it, it's not about me anymore. I have a child that looks, it's going to be looking up to me and it's going to be watching me doing what I'm doing, and I have to set an example. So, um, I would, I would definitely say, uh, when my son was born, that's what did it.

Speaker 1:

And I eat okay. So you made a decision that you were going to go into business for yourself, and you know for me like I'll look at other people and some of the mentors I have and people I watch and even my personal experience there's a lot of sacrifice, determination involved in wanting to step out and be a business owner. I had a lot of fear, so there was just some steps you had to take. I'm sure, like money, you know um business planning. I mean, what steps did you take to get yourself? Did you realize what you want to do to get to where you are today?

Speaker 2:

A lot of sacrifices. There's a lot of sacrifices that, um, that people don't know, people just want to see the outside of like, oh well, he just did this. Because of that, that store is only, you know, booming because of this and it's. It may be that has played a part, but you know, there is a time and there's I don't tell a lot of people this, but it will tell it there was a time, you know, I was, my son was two years old, and I was living on my own, um, with my son, and the store wasn't doing too hot. This was back in 2018.

Speaker 2:

And, uh, I remember, um, I was pulling money from the store and I knew I was pulling too much money from the store and I know I was like man, I can only do this for so long, until this is going to become an issue, and I had to make the decision. Do I, do I put ourselves out of a home or do I, you know, keep this dream going to where I know it could be? I chose, I chose the dream, you know, and that's something that you know. You know we were okay and we, we, we, we, we went to you know a place. You know where we were. We were good, but you know, I chose, I chose the dream and my future over a warm home. Yeah, and that's. Those are the kind of sacrifices that, like people don't know about being successful, right, and they just want to say, you know, sometimes like, oh, it's only because of this and because of that, that's a sacrifice that I'm not so sure that a lot of people would make. Yeah and yeah.

Speaker 1:

And what you're going through there and we're. I'm going to take a second more on this and I want to get to know you a little bit better. But so what steps did you take? I mean, because you were kind of just struggling there. You were like like most new businesses you've got to go through that to get to where you're going, right, yeah, and you learn from that. So what did you do? Like, where did the money come from? Like, what did you do for your business to, to take off in the direction that you wanted to, to get you where you are now?

Speaker 2:

I would say a lot of risk. You know you got to take. I'm a big believer on taking risks.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I would say a lot of more sacrifices.

Speaker 2:

So a lot of risks I took. You know, I was in the Richmond bargain center 2017, October first of 2017, to August of this year of 2023. And I would say from that, 2017 to 2000, beginning of 2020, was the years that I was like man. I just don't know it was. So I would say one thing I did is we were we were hitting low sales, the lowest sales that I could, even the lowest sales we've ever had, excuse me and I knew that there was a bigger spot that could have came available for me to where I could do more of what I wanted to do, and I was going to be locked into a year contract with that. I ended up moving the store and once I moved the store, that is when it blew up. It was the risk of location.

Speaker 2:

You know, I was kind of tucked in a little area back, you know in the back of that store, and then I was like, hey, I could go down the main aisle right at the end and have this huge store, but I'm also taking a risk because it still doesn't work. I am screwed.

Speaker 1:

And more overhead.

Speaker 2:

More overhead, which was scary, especially when you could barely even pay the overhead you had. So it was those kind of risks. That, I'd say, is what's.

Speaker 1:

Did you have any reservations with? Because you've got your clientele base at the bargain center. It didn't ship in gears. Did you have any reservations? Like me, I switched over to a business email rather than my personal email about a month ago and I've gone back and forth over that for like four years being in business and I finally I'm glad I did it. But it was just man. All my customers that know me, my client, my friend, is making that shift. So you moved locations like physical locations.

Speaker 2:

So I stayed like, and when I was in the bargain center I stayed in the same location. I just moved to a bigger spot in the building but I mean, yeah, a little bit, I mean I was a little bit more safe. You know, like we just moved to the Depot district.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's what I mean. Like, even like the depots, when you got there to the Depot district.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's scary. It's almost like you have to somewhat start over. Yeah, and that's a lot of stress. You know it's like hey, I'm going to a new spot, yeah, I'm going to keep my a lot of my regulars, but there's going to be some regulars aren't going to be coming down there, for whatever reason. They can't, they don't want to, they don't like the area, they, there's something. I might be next to somebody that they don't like, or you know who knows? So, yeah, that's really scary. It's been a transition too. You know we've there's a lot of people we've been promoting and word of mouth has been going around about us around here, and still there's still people that we don't know they'll walk into that bargain center and they're like what is this? This is a, this is a retro jakes, yeah, Um, and they, they'll just go. Oh, okay, Well, guess they're not here anymore. So it's it's our job to try to go hey, hey, we're over here, we're over here. So that's been, that's been a challenge actually, believe it or not?

Speaker 1:

So I mean. I got to think I mean there's and I'm just, I'm just, I'm just happy for you and excited for your business. You know the things we discussed down there. I'm just like, wow, you're doing great down there. How do how does? How do you make that work when you've got? I mean, there's a couple of arcades within you know half a mile radius of each other. You know, how do you make that? How do you make that work?

Speaker 2:

I'm a firm believer in competition is going to make each other work harder and be better. You know, um, I wanted to do an arcade for a long time. You know it was. It was really, um, I had plans to do an arcade for a long time, um, with the actual arcade guy over there. Yeah, um, and whenever, whenever he started the arcade over there, I was like man, that is one heck of an experience he's bringing. I have to, I have to compete with that, like, if not, you know, you know so, um, that's when I decided, like you know, I'm going to keep, I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to just going to do it. You know, um, so it's been hard, it's been, it's been, it's been one of them. Things to where, you know, you got to, you got to push yourself on how to be better. What can I do that they're not doing advice first with them? You know, um, so that that's been a challenge, but I love it. You know it's part of business, right.

Speaker 1:

Right Part of business Awesome. So so where are you actually from? Are you from Richmond or where are you from?

Speaker 2:

I'm from Cambridge city, Indiana.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, and you live there now.

Speaker 2:

You live in Dublin, which is kind of the Cambridge city area.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay. How long have you lived in this? Lived in our community, pretty much my whole life.

Speaker 2:

You know um what's school there, graduated from there, Okay, Pretty much my whole life.

Speaker 1:

What, uh, what so? What motivated you to stay in this community?

Speaker 2:

Um, I don't know, maybe just, uh, I'm probably going to say just I've been there so long and um, a lot of my family's from there and whatnot, so, um, if I ever moved, I probably wouldn't move to Richmond. You know I do a lot of business here, I know a lot of people here and this is, uh, a place you know I'm pretty familiar with. You know I'm not moving into uncharted territory. You know I'm not knowing where I'm at, you know. So, um, but yeah, I, I, I bought a house down there, um, a couple of years ago, so that's kind of where I'm at right now.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, just want to take a second to remind our, our, our audience out there to please click that like and subscribe button so I can keep bringing you this wonderful content. We're starting to take off. More and more people are asking me for it. And also, if you're thinking real estate, think diamond class, care the diamond mine. All right, jake. So the next segment here is kind of a little bit of fun thing. Okay, we're going to. It's kind of like the my call it the rose city. Uh, hot and ready, cold and steady, okay. So I'm going to just bring up a couple, a few different categories and you tell me which one you prefer and why. Okay, so, uh, I love pizza, man. What if you had to pick a pizza place in our community? Where are you going?

Speaker 2:

Uh, a pizza place in our community. Um, I tell you what I'm a big fan of dominoes. I like, I like dominoes. Um, I, I, I like Suzie's. Suzie's pizza is really good too. Um, I've had it a few times, it's really good. It is Um a pizza place. What?

Speaker 1:

else Susie's. They're. They're coming up, they're coming on the show here soon.

Speaker 2:

For sure. Yeah, um, you know, um, you know, I like all pizza. You know it's for me. It's really hard for me to eat a slice of pizza and go. That's not very good and I love, I love pizza. So I'm gonna any any pizza I've ever had. I've never really disliked it around town. So, yeah, I'm gonna say Domino's and probably Susie's number two.

Speaker 1:

Don't get me wrong, domino's is clutch, but I'm a little older. He's my 28, 28. So I'm I'm significantly older than you, I'm 43, but I remember the original Domino's here and the taste was just a whole nother level back then. So I'm a pizza kind of sore. If you can't tell, we've got several parks in the area. What's part? What's part would you? Would you go have lunch or picnic or or hike? If you had a opportunity, where would you go?

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna go with. So there's. Forgive me, I am not a good. I don't know the names of the parks, but the one you know, with the the pond out there, I sit by the pond Glenn. Miller there we go. Yeah, I knew that. I don't even know why I'm sorry Okay. Miller Park.

Speaker 1:

I have to say, All right Now, as far as like furthering your education, things like that. We haven't gotten to that yet, but you know we think of, you know this area. We've got several universities here. We got Erlum, we got IU East, we got Ivy Tech. What's one of those would come to mind? Right up the all, right up the cuff, what's one do you think of?

Speaker 2:

IU East.

Speaker 1:

IU East why?

Speaker 2:

Well, they're doing a lot of stuff with the gaming community that I've seen. I know RetroRush over there's doing a lot of stuff with them and they're doing a lot of stuff, I think, for young adults to. You know, bring gaming to the community more you know, and it can make it okay. Back whenever I was in high school, you gained a lot. It wasn't good, you know. Schools didn't believe in. Hey, you know you can't just play video games for your career and that's kind of changed.

Speaker 1:

You know, like that's kind of changed.

Speaker 2:

So I like what they're doing. I don't think a lot. There's still some schools that aren't on board with that. So I think that that's good that they're doing that and they're doing it at such a high level. So I think that's great.

Speaker 1:

So did you. So that brings me to my next question when did you go after high school? Did you have a top 20? Go to college? Did you go to college?

Speaker 2:

I actually did not go to college. I graduated high school. I didn't do anything for probably a year and then I got my first job at Arby's.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And I was. I was a fry guy, right.

Speaker 1:

Where's the beef?

Speaker 2:

I know. So I was a fry guy. Funny story. I always thought this is me whenever I was 18, 19. So it's kind of funny to me. Now I ended up was like you know what, if I cook these an extra 15 seconds, they are so much better and I would do it right. And then all of a sudden I got sat down by my boss and said you're taking way too long at the fry station, we have to move you. And I was like I don't understand what you're saying. So yeah, so you're talking curly fries.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, man the, the Hala.

Speaker 2:

what does it know is the mozzarella sticks man? You put those in there and extra 15 seconds they were. They were perfect. They were perfect, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you had someone on the outside of our community looking in and they're on, they're on a cusp of moving here and they're like you know where can I? What will be the perfect ideal date for in in this area? If I was going to go on a first date, what would you recommend to someone? Come into town you know man dinner activity. You know, that's a really good question.

Speaker 2:

I never thought of that. Okay. So one thing I would say I would meet a Roscoe's coffee bar. I think that's a good place to sit down and get to know each other talk. Gotta plug myself. I go play some games at Retro Jakes Arcade. There you go.

Speaker 1:

Got about 60 arcade machines yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know. Then maybe I don't know, maybe I do dinner first, then the coffee, but then I'd probably hit up, probably hit up the Cork, Cork.

Speaker 1:

Okay, sounds like a chill night here. Okay, all right, there you go. You think about moving here? Perfect First date night, for sure. What is one business that is currently not in our community that you would like to either see be open up here or come back?

Speaker 2:

Man, this is going to be unpopular opinion.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I'm a steak and shake guy.

Speaker 1:

I love steak and shake man.

Speaker 2:

Man, and I'll tell you what if they were to come back, I would not be mad about that.

Speaker 1:

You know, I would not be mad about that whatsoever, absolutely that $4 deal with the burger and fries, the garlic burger and fries.

Speaker 2:

They have won a new castle.

Speaker 1:

I hit up the new castle.

Speaker 2:

Now they've taken off like taken off a lot of menu items that I like. I think the $4 deal are going to, yeah. So I'm like I don't know about all that, but I can still find something.

Speaker 1:

All right, could you share a memorable moment from your involvement in the community?

Speaker 2:

Wow, I'd say one thing I've done last year. It's hoping to do this year, but I just didn't. I just didn't do it. What I want, I wanted to is Christmas last year, at both stores because we have another location in Connorsville yeah, we did a event to where we gave free video games to kids. You know, for Christmas, you know, and that that was big for me. You know it's hard, it's hard work being in the bargain center and then saying, hey, let's work with the community and other local businesses. So that was my first thing I've really done. It's like, hey, I want to give back to the community and I want to give kids video games and man, I've got somebody to connect you with.

Speaker 2:

Good, good.

Speaker 1:

Then I'm gonna connect you with somebody Good and the kids can benefit from. Perfect yeah awesome. So, speaking of that, so thinking about, you, know some things that you would like to do in the community. If you could give advice to somebody that wants to get involved in the community, what would you tell them Once you get involved?

Speaker 2:

in the community or maybe even start their own business.

Speaker 1:

What advice would you give them?

Speaker 2:

Take risks. Don't be afraid to take risks. Taking risks is, for me, is the biggest way you grow, you know. You fall down, get right back up. You know that's the biggest thing is, I take a lot of risks. I get a lot of a lot of them don't pay off yeah, you know, but that one, that one, pays off, yeah, and it makes it all worth it, man you are so true, Like even in my own life.

Speaker 1:

You know, even even you know, switching to be a realtor at 37 years old. At that time you know that was a risk, a huge risk, Not having a check coming in, not knowing where your next payment, your pay's coming from. But you know, just even investments and things like that, Like I just remember always talking myself out of making, taking that risk, and once I make that shift where if something makes sense, I render numbers, it looks good, it makes total sense. I'm going for it Because if not, we can, we can be our worst enemy talking herself out of growth.

Speaker 2:

So just trust the process. That's the thing is. You're not going to a lot of times you're not going to get that dream overnight. You're going to have to put in work, you're going to have to do a lot of things that probably don't want to do, and you're. But you have to. You have to trust the process and you have to. You know, hunker down. You got to trust it.

Speaker 1:

Have your plan, follow up on your plan. Yeah, yeah, go, yeah. So if you had an opportunity to collaborate with somebody in our community put something together, nonprofit project giveaway gangs who would you collaborate with?

Speaker 2:

You know I've been since I've been in the depot. You know I've had a lot of opportunity to talk to a lot of local businesses about collaborating and we've even collaborated with, like, lulu's tacos. We're in talks collaborating with some other local businesses. But I would say if I had to choose one local business to collaborate with in some aspect for the community, it would probably be probably be the guys down the street, last one in the past, a retro rush. I think that'd be good for the community that's coming together. For that I also feel like Roscoe's. I like Roscoe's. I like what they're doing. I think they have a really good vibe when you walk in there.

Speaker 1:

Are those your games in Roscoe's?

Speaker 2:

No, those are actually his games.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so okay, all right, that's awesome, you heard it. There's opportunities to collaborate with Jacob here. Awesome, all right. Man, so tough, so tough puts you on the spot here. You're a move. I consider you a mover and shaker in the community. If you could give our community a letter grade A through F I don't mess this up, because I got asked this question and I gave a one through 10, but a letter grade A through F, kevin, oh, man yeah. So what letter grade would you give our community?

Speaker 2:

That's a really hard question. That's it. You know, I would say this I don't see anybody out in our community actively trying to destroy our community. I see a lot of this is a good question. I see a lot of people that are trying to come together and I could say, you know, from a lot of other, I've seen a lot of other things that are not like that. I would give it I know this sounds cliche, I'd probably give it an A. You know, I don't see anybody fighting against each other or you know anything like that, and I think I think that speaks volumes. I think we come together well. I think we come together very well.

Speaker 1:

Hey, you know, I think, Kevin, I think that's the first A on the show, Um yeah, but that was an excellent response and a great way to break that down.

Speaker 2:

I definitely can see that as well, and that's the thing, like nothing's ever going to be perfect. You know nothing's ever going to be perfect, but I will say we can make it dang near perfect you know so we can do our best, and I see a lot, of, a lot of things around here that you know we are striving for that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay. Where would you like to see us in five years?

Speaker 2:

Um, personally, I'd like to see a lot more small businesses, um, you know, especially in the promenade. I'd like to see the promenade. You know, get, you know, a little bit more life. You know I'd like to see. I think the depot is really on its way for that. Oh sure, that was a big reason I moved there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Um, but uh, I would say, the promenade, um is where for me, where I would start for small businesses.

Speaker 1:

I think now's a great time I think you got in a depot at a great time, yep and I think now's a great time to invest in downtown Richmond. I think it's coming. I agree, all right. So are there any upcoming events, projects or causes in the community that you're particularly interested in, that you would like to highlight or bring attention to, shout out?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, I'm going to be not really off the, off the top of my head, um, it's kind of. It's kind of a cat. I don't want to say catch point too that's probably not the right word, um, but it's one of those two. I'm so invested on what I'm doing. I'm not I don't take as a lot of time to look around of what's going on, um, so I mean, my answer is my answer would be you know myself, but I don't want to plug myself like that, um, but you know, I, I, I would say you know, um, as long as we're doing good in the community and bringing good and you know, bringing things that are positive, there's a lot of negative out there and bringing things that are positive, I would say that's, you know, that's, that's what I want to see you right here.

Speaker 1:

Okay, great response. Okay, one last question. So before we get to that question, just a quick reminder for you to quick click that like and subscribe button so we can keep bringing this content for your real estate needs think diamond class care. One final question, jackie, okay, yeah, is there anyone that you'd like to give a shout out to? Anyone in your business, anyone that's helped you along the way, anyone in your family, friends, customers?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, wow, how much time we got right now as long as you need. Nah, okay, yeah, um, I would say, uh, first and foremost, my wife. You know my wife, um, you know she, she's been with me for almost the whole entire ride and she's pushed, she's pushed me, you know, to be, to be better. And, um, I would say, without her, retro Jake's would not be where it's at, without Abby paying, my wife, um, I'm going to say my store manager, anthony Gunther.

Speaker 2:

Um he is fantastic, um, fantastic Um. I'm even going to give you know um our competition to shout out um last for the past retro rush. They have, uh, they've, they've pushed us to be better, um, and I hope the feelings mutual, um, but they pushed us to be better and they've pushed um all of us, you know, to just try to try to just be better than what we were yesterday. Just drive better. So I got to give them a shout out. A lot of respect there.

Speaker 1:

Um, they're coming up on here on the show too. Good yeah.

Speaker 2:

Um, yeah, oh man, yeah, I would just say you know another one's, richmond. You know the Richmond community. You know there's a lot of people out here, um, there's a lot of people out here that are really, really loving what we're doing and they're letting us know, and that's that's big for us. You know, because having having you guys come out and you know, tell us, you know, what we're doing right and that you love it. Um, also, tell us what we're doing wrong. You know there's a way to do that, you know. But you know, um, you know we appreciate that because that makes us better. Um, so, yeah, I would, I would definitely say you know our community as well. On being able, you know, to let us know what we're doing and letting us know that we're doing a good job. That means a lot.

Speaker 1:

Jacob paying retro Drake's. What's your location, jacob? They won't come check you out.

Speaker 2:

For sure. It is 417 North 8th street, richmond, indiana, and the Depot district. We're right next to blockhead records. You haven't been to blockhead records? Go check it out. They're awesome. Um, right next to blockhead records, we're also right next to rare breed fitness.

Speaker 1:

Um, yeah, Right there, you heard it, jacob, welcome. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

Being great. I look forward to continue to watch them grow and be a staple down there in the Depot.

Speaker 2:

Thank, you very much.

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