Embark on a revealing journey into the world of parasites as we uncover the pervasive presence of these unwelcome guests in our daily lives. From sushi to water, no stone is left unturned as we dismantle the misconception that developed countries are immune to parasitic invasions. Discover the subtle symptoms that could be signaling a parasitic takeover, from cravings to skin issues, and learn why mainstream medical tests often fall short in detection.
Delve into the perplexing realm of parasite treatments, weighing the pros and cons of pharmaceuticals versus natural remedies, like black walnut and neem. Join us as we share personal anecdotes and guide listeners through the intricate process of parasite cleansing, offering insights into timing cleanses with the lunar cycle and aligning diets for optimal results. Don't miss out on this eye-opening discussion that emphasizes the importance of recognizing parasites as a global health concern and seeking professional guidance for effective cleansing strategies.
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Embark on a revealing journey into the world of parasites as we uncover the pervasive presence of these unwelcome guests in our daily lives. From sushi to water, no stone is left unturned as we dismantle the misconception that developed countries are immune to parasitic invasions. Discover the subtle symptoms that could be signaling a parasitic takeover, from cravings to skin issues, and learn why mainstream medical tests often fall short in detection.
Delve into the perplexing realm of parasite treatments, weighing the pros and cons of pharmaceuticals versus natural remedies, like black walnut and neem. Join us as we share personal anecdotes and guide listeners through the intricate process of parasite cleansing, offering insights into timing cleanses with the lunar cycle and aligning diets for optimal results. Don't miss out on this eye-opening discussion that emphasizes the importance of recognizing parasites as a global health concern and seeking professional guidance for effective cleansing strategies.
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Welcome to the K6 Wellness Revolution podcast. My name is Sharon, owner of K6 Wellness Center here in Dallas, texas, and I'm gonna be your host as we go through all things health and wellness. Today, my sidekick Elena, our famous and infamous health coach here at K6 Wellness Center, it's gonna talk with me and we're gonna have a really interesting conversation about parasites. So for the last few months those of you who follow us we've really been going through rife trying to take a deep dive on that, and we did kind of touch on parasites in that we use rife to address parasites for a few things you know, in a few different ways, and it's really it's intriguing. Parasites are disgusting for some people but totally necessary to talk about, especially if you're on any kind of health journey. So with the changing of the season coming up, we feel like this is the perfect time to have a great conversation about these little buggers. So let's get to it. Hey, elena, how are you?
Speaker 2:I am good and ready to talk bugs.
Speaker 1:Did you eat a big greasy supper? So we can really like be disgusting.
Speaker 2:I had raw sushi yeah.
Speaker 1:We're gonna talk about that, right? Yes, yes. I think for some of the people who are new to natural health functional medicine, when they come in and they hear us say, oh okay, well, we're probably gonna do some parasite work, we get a few different reactions. Some of them are like what? And then some people say, oh, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:And some people say oh, I just saw this on TikTok or Instagram. Yeah, everyone says parasite cleanses, it's catching on, it's about time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Remember that show way back when it was called the Monsters Inside you.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:The Monsters Inside Me. I was just discussing. Yes, so we're not talking about that necessarily, right? Like they were pulling out of people's brains and it was pretty extreme. That was extreme. It was pretty extreme, but I also think it's worth noting that stuff does happen.
Speaker 2:And it's available on the internet. You can still find that stuff. You can find anything.
Speaker 1:But so we're going to have this conversation really starting at the beginning. Like people hear parasites, and if you say parasite, I think the first thing that comes into people's minds is a worm, right?
Speaker 1:But, ultimately, a parasite is really any organism, any living organism that gets its life or sustains itself from another organism. Sometimes it can be symbiotic, meaning nothing, there's no harm, no foul, but it can also cause the host organism its life, or it could be to the host detriment Absolutely. I think that as we go through this we should maybe keep that in mind and highlight that. But yeah, parasites Fun. It's more than just worms.
Speaker 2:I think that's important it is, and I think we've all had our initial experiences. And then you and me, sharon, we get to see everyone's experiences, whether it's their first time or they've been doing it for years, and it never gets old. It absolutely never gets old. So I try to think back to my first personal experience, and I think my first several experiences with parasite cleanses weren't very productive, so I felt like I didn't do anything. But there's all those microscopic bugs that you can't see, and so it was doing something. Because I know I felt bad. I felt really bad trying to do these cleanses. And then you get the right cleanse for the right person at the right time, and the one I did a couple of years ago was life changing and y'all, I passed bugs for six months. Six months.
Speaker 1:Ew gross Ew.
Speaker 2:But it never gets old.
Speaker 1:But parasitic infections in humans are quite common, and so when we talk about parasitic infections, I think it's important to kind of understand that this could be anything from scabies, body lice, hair lice. Those aren't worms, right? They're little mice.
Speaker 2:And they're parasitic Lice or even fleas. Yeah, you can see them.
Speaker 1:But also pinworms, whipworms, roundworms, flukes, tapeworms, malaria. They're caused from plasmodium, right so, and that's carried in a mosquito, so you can get a mosquito bite and then you get sick with malaria, lyme disease, which I think originally was associated with ticks, but now they're saying that the Lyme spirochetes are actually found in almost every flying insect in North America.
Speaker 1:You're a lovely thought. I know, yeah, what they've done to our insects right, especially mosquitoes because they're such great delivery systems. But parasites include many different things. I remember the first tapeworm I ever saw was in junior high in a jar of formaldehyde and in learning about it I was like man, that'd be a good way to lose weight. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2:There's some weight loss treatments where they introduce parasites, but y'all, I don't recommend it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah it's pretty rough People do some of these things. Let's talk about the different ways that people get exposed or infected.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, because I think all of us go about our day and you don't want to sit and be terrified that you're going to get them anywhere you go, but the most common place that you would think of is food that's undercooked or like sashimi.
Speaker 2:People think sushi, but it's not always sushi, because a lot of times it's good, but sashimi not sushi, and you think about the traditional way that sushi or sashimi is served. You've got the wasabi and the ginger that helps counteract that exposure that you're inevitably going to get if you're eating raw fish.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you're one of those people who throws out the wasabi and the pickled ginger, you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2:You should actually serve the serving of parasites Eat it.
Speaker 1:It's good for you, it might protect you. But yeah, and to pork, a lot of people had a family member who would undercook pork. It was always medium and I was like oh, I don't think I can eat that. No, it just doesn't wash with me. Now, steak I'm all about a blue steak, but that doesn't mean I'm not getting parasites. I mean beef can have worms too. Any meat can, but fish has some of the gnarliest ones.
Speaker 2:Well, because, then, another big area that we have to think about with parasite exposure is water, like poor sanitation and poorly filtered water. And where were your fish grown? Yeah, were they in a tank? Were. They're just swimming in their own feces Are they swimming out in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, but also. So to the water thing. Look at Giardia. Right, Giardia is one. I always thought of Giardia as hey. You get this when you go camping or hiking and you think it's a good idea to drink out of the river. But there's more to it than that, and it's not just drinking out of a river, because a river could be really amazing, except the elk Half a mile upstream just pooped in it.
Speaker 2:Right, you don't know Whatever, you know the bear pooping in the woods or a person.
Speaker 1:But Giardia you can get. You do get from rivers and lakes, but we've seen people get it from their drinking, out of the garden hose and Then to. I learned several years ago through a client that Got Giardia was like how did you get it? She hadn't been anywhere, she hadn't done anything. Turns out she got it from her swimming pool, from Landing in her swimming pool, yeah, and I thought, well, wouldn't the chlorine kill it?
Speaker 2:and then you told me yeah, it has to do with the pH. So if you see ducks swimming in your pool, it means your pH is off and they're having a heyday and they're leaving some Giardia behind. It's usually after a rainstorm. I notice in my pool and I have a saltwater pool, but after a rainstorm I go shock it and I go test to make sure I've got the pH right, because no one wants to be swimming in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other yeah, and Giardi is awful, it's, it's a lot of diarrhea, it's, it's pretty awful, I'm good. But then I think, and we're gonna talk about kind of you know the impact, like what you see worldwide, right, but we tend to think in America that we're so insulated and and I've had doctors say we don't have parasites in America. I mean, I've read articles that oh, we're so clean and we just don't have it. I am sorry. We warm our dogs, we warm our cats, we warm our horses and cows, and why do we do that? Because we know they have worms, yeah, but what else do we do with our dogs and our cats and our horses? I don't kiss cows, but People kiss their animals all the time in their beds?
Speaker 2:Hey, and if you do that, okay, but just know you probably need to be warmed, yeah.
Speaker 1:Or if you're walking barefoot in the backyard where your dog poops right and you don't want to miss out on walking barefoot.
Speaker 2:But Risks.
Speaker 1:That's true, it's true. Okay, so you can get parasites from foods. You can get it from making out with your pet. You can get it. Oh, here's one a skin to skin right like scabies. Yeah, and lice. My mom never wanted me trying hats on in stores.
Speaker 2:I don't blame her. You do it one time and you're gonna regret it for a whole month.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know and the interesting thing about scabies is I remember, like as a I think I was in fourth grade they closed our school down because so many kids got scabies, wow, and I told somebody that one time. And they're like that's sexually transmitted? Oh, it's, but it's skin to skin right and a lot of people will get it in their genital area and so when you rub up enough against each other, you're gonna. You're gonna get it. And carbon, but you can also get it. You know, just hanging out, you kids will crawl over each other. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so scabies, and scabies is a oh, it's a rough one. It's pretty uncomfortable, but you can get it from just being around somebody who is Infected with you know, name it whatever roundworm, and if you're sharing too much skin or or if they're not clean and you get oral fecal contact, which happens in daycares. It happens in restaurants. I hope we don't make a lot of Paranoid people out of.
Speaker 2:Out of the way. First Exposers, then we'll talk a little bit more about what it all looks like, and then there's help in the end, don't worry.
Speaker 1:There you go, yeah, but skin to skin, so in the animals and Walking barefoot. But a lot of times it's not just walking barefoot in the yard, I mean it's. I think that's an important thing, but a lot of times we do see people come back from tropical vacations where they walked around barefoot. You and you can look it up. There are worms that will come in through your feet and you can see them through your skin.
Speaker 2:So there there's a lot of life, go live your life, go have your fun in the tropical places. Then come back and see us and we'll get you squared away Actually, yeah, beforehand and we'll give you preventative tips, and tricks and remedies almost like a parasite proof? Yes, but you know, I think a lot of the time people also think that the people who are prone to parasites are just, you know, poor communities or third world countries. But I mean, that's not true.
Speaker 2:We have parasites everywhere and parasites are a part of life and no one's immune to it. But hygiene does play a factor, a big factor, yeah. So you know, if you're sitting here and already getting paranoid, just wash your hands and, for Pete's sake, teach your children to wash their hands.
Speaker 1:I, yeah, I think that that's a big deal, especially where you you know like pinworms, and we'll go into that a little more. But I think that hygiene habits and I see that a lot with kids and and I'm been around here long enough, just Just long enough to be mean enough where if I have a kid come in with dirty hands, it's like I'm gonna go wash your hands before we touch each other it's not that you have to watch. I, you know, as a nurse, I have to wash my hands all day long, every day that I work as a nurse or in nursing, and that's fine because I'm putting my hands on people or things that are contaminated. But Even for your children, I think it's just a really good idea, teacher kids to wash their hands when they come inside. If you've been outside or you left the house and you went to the store, wash your hands when you come home.
Speaker 2:That's not asking too much. Right wash your hands before you eat.
Speaker 1:That's to be like a thing.
Speaker 2:Everybody did. I mean, if you learn a language I'm trying to learn Spanish and you're learning all about washing hands in Spanish. Don't ask me to quote it right now, but I was just models.
Speaker 1:I have bad Spanish too, but yeah, absolutely Just washing your hands, not after every time you touch the pet, and you don't have to do it every time.
Speaker 2:You know I'm erotic about it right.
Speaker 1:We also need put exposure to these bugs and bacteria is in any kind of yeah, there's balance there, but I think that it's also important, especially here in America, that we acknowledge that it's not something we're immune to, and I think this is what we come up against, and so this is kind of when we want to go with this. You know, parasitic infections can definitely be very exotic and they can definitely be connected to international travel We've seen it. But Parasites are Everywhere, they're everywhere, even here in America. I say it all the time. Nobody else checks in at the border. Why do we think parasites are? Respect borders. It just is what it is.
Speaker 1:But there's a lot of reasons. There's denial about Parasites and you know it goes to. There is ignorance, but I think there's this, there's this I don't know, I think it's based on false information but and faulty testing. But we're not, we're not immune to them here, and I think that the people, people around the country, like in India countries and Central America, south America, where the government is passing out the medicine and reminding people once or twice a year hey, you know, take your parasite remedy. There's no, a lot of those places don't have clean water systems, and that's a thing.
Speaker 2:But, but honestly, how many people think they have clean water here in the US?
Speaker 1:I know and say our water is kind of gross.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've got cleaner water than you know a mud hole, but Our water is not as clean and that's why you know something that we talk about all the time. Right, it's water. You got to start with water when you're dealing with your whole body, health, and that's, you know, a whole other topic, but clean water is so important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then when do you know? When do we wonder, when do we start to suspect Parasites? And I think this is this is where it gets interesting, because for a long time parasites were where we went last. Right, let's right, try to get rid of everything first, and if it doesn't resolve, we'll do a parasite cleanse. And you and I've kind of flipped on that now.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely many reasons all it's because people come in with all sorts of symptoms. We're kind of the last stop for a lot of our clients for sure and when people come in, they that's not on their Horizon. They're not even considering that parasites can cause Ball issues like diarrhea or constipation. It can cause warts Um teeth grinding. That's a huge one that I love to just point out to people, because you see it on Thermography.
Speaker 1:We look at this and go do you grind your teeth a lot? And people don't know why they ground their teeth, or when it started and it's like huh, or they just think they're stressed and.
Speaker 2:No, parasites will make you stressed, they'll lower your tolerance to stress and while there are so many factors that play into that, if if there's parasites present, your body is not going to adapt the way it was designed to. But yeah, other things to like sugar cravings. Yes, sugar is very addicting. We will all admit that. It tastes good, but it's not good for us and it only feeds the bad bugs. And when you've got this crazy sugar craving, we've got to interrupt that cycle by killing the bugs.
Speaker 2:Yeah and you know other things to, like vomiting and nausea, I think, some of those extreme ones. People think, oh, that would only be if I went out of the Country. But I mean, think about if any of our listeners have ever and had about where you just suddenly got sick and if you were to trace it back you might figure out, oh, it was this salad bar or was sushi, or I had bad water. But there's so many of these symptoms that go beyond the common one where you know, with the little kid, when they start itching their little Hineys at bedtime every night at bedtime or in the middle of the night, you go look and you're gonna get a little surprise.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's just stop right here, real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pinworms, that's what you're talking about. Yes, very common childhood infection, even in America. You can go to the drugstore, you can go to Amazon and you can buy parental pamela Pamo eight to treat it. But there's a really simple test you can do at home, because a lot of Parasites. I think the reason we don't know about them is because we don't see them.
Speaker 1:But there's something called the tape test and this is what I tell parents when I asked is your child scratch their rectum a Lot at night? And I like, yes, it's like they can't stop and I'm so sick of it. And and then you know they get them on their fingers and they swallow it or they go rub. Brother, it's disgusting, yeah, but you can. So first thing in the morning, before your kid gets out of bed, you get a piece of scotch tape and you just pull on the underwear and you put that scotch tape right at the opening of their rectum and it's like taking a little sample if there's eggs or worms. Your doctor can see that, but you can see it too and and I've had people send me videos you know, toilet full of pinworms and it's like, yep, yeah, you had them, but we don't always see it in the toilet.
Speaker 2:That's. That's the most, I think one of the most visible ones.
Speaker 1:I think it is, and it's probably one of the more common ones too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, that's so easily transmitted not all of them are that easily transmitted, I mean it's one that people can live with for a long long time, just mildly irritated, like Women. A lot of moms will say, okay, my son turned for and he will not quit playing with his Penis. It's like, well, he found it, you know. And some parents will say, okay, my kid will not quit scratching their butt. And it's not just their butt, cheek, it's, it's their right. It's like, well, that's, that's parasites, because nobody just scratches their rectum right Right right right you know other things too with with parasites.
Speaker 2:You know. Think about anemia. You know how many people do we see that have anemia and They've never thought it was parasites, and it's not always that itchy rectum yeah especially with men, because no man should be anemic outside of like a pathology.
Speaker 1:But if you have a man who doesn't have an ulcer and he doesn't have Cancer and he doesn't have some disease but his irons always low, that's a good sign that maybe, maybe we should be looking at parasites. Women get a. I think women get overlooked a little more because we expect women to be anemic if they have periods, but it's not always just from menstrual bleeding. It can also be because you're donating all of your To a visitor that you didn't invite. So, yeah, and a lot of times, just those unexplained health conditions that nobody seems to ever get to the bottom of and there's no, there's no solid diagnosis that fits. That's definitely is, as naturopathic Minded practitioners we go. Hmm, yeah, we should absolutely look at Parasites and we've moved that up the line as far as Our priorities. Yeah, priorities, because we realized that most people, when they get to us, have never been Quote-unquote treated for parasites, they've never been wormed, and we have a lot of people who have been tested for parasites and most of those tests are negative, you know yeah that's.
Speaker 1:That's problematic as well, but I think, yeah, pinworms. They're easier to wrap our heads around, but they can be difficult to get or get rid of if, if you don't practice good hygiene, and that's why it's important for parents make your kids wash your hands and everybody. Please quit kissing your dogs and cats on the face because they lick their own butts and Then you let them lick you or you doing it.
Speaker 2:It is job security for us, you know. Just come see us twice. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It's so bad, but I Think We've talked about okay how do you know, right? But I would just like to speak a minute to people out there who are like I've been so tired for 10 years, I have such chronic fatigue, I have Brain fog. I think a lot of people also hear parasites and they think well, if I had a parasite I'd be skinny. But that's not true. We've seen overweight people past tapeworms, yeah, and it's not always what you think. Your body has amazing mechanisms by which it tries to catch these little buggers and and it's called biofilm. You know biofilm can be problematic, but it's also something your body is doing to try to protect you, and it's basically large Snotballs that serve as apartment buildings for bugs and sometimes you can see it in your bowels.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, I think people are the person who passes mucus, right, that's biofilm typically, yeah, and you can be guaranteed there's something in there that you don't want in your body. But skin issues especially. I mean think about scabies. One of the telltale signs with scabies for those of you Don't know is in the, the meat in between your fingers, like the webbing. You'll commonly see it broken out and it may look like eczema, but that's very common for scabies Infections. It's not always the place that you see it, but it's usually one of the more telltale signs for for scabies.
Speaker 1:But also neurological issues. I mean, you know, that's where you like, get into that monsters inside me. People get worms in their brain, which is kind of scary, and then mood swings, which can relate to what's happening with your nutrition, and, yeah, you'd already mentioned, like teeth grinding and stuff like that. But, but so many of these things, if you pursue traditional medicine, you're gonna be misled, right, yeah, yeah, there's all these TMJ. Oh, you need a retainer. Oh, you have eczema, oh, oh you have Whatever you name it.
Speaker 2:You have weight problems, yeah, but that's not actually what it is. No, but I think we should speak to the, the testing that's available in mainstream Medicine for parasites. It's really faulty. You know there's a lot of false negatives Because there's so many different aspects to consider, like when you are collecting the sample. Your parasites may not have shed any eggs in the Stool sample that you submitted, so there may be nothing to see. And it's not in common for many organisms to go through these, you know, late in cycles, sometimes for months, where they aren't producing. You know they're not for sure.
Speaker 1:And and if you do get a sample, like you, because for those of you've never done a stool test basically Look at your poop in a tray and then you scoop some of it into a little cup with a lid and you send it off. Okay, well, what if you got some in the tray but nothing with eggs, because the eggs get laid in a little clump. They don't get laid like strung out through all your poop. They land where they land.
Speaker 2:You need to miss them.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So what if you don't get any eggs in the actual sample? Or what if you do get it in the cup? It gets to the lab and they don't pick. They pick from the top, not the bottom, and your eggs were in the bottom of the cup. You know, there's so many Holes, there's so many inconsistencies, it's almost like luck.
Speaker 1:Look at the draw and I've seen estimates saying that stool tests catch as many as 80% false negatives or, I'm sorry, the yield as much as 80% false negatives. I I don't know that that's truly the case. But stool testing is kind of the best thing, the best thing traditional medicine has to rely on, because Endoscopies, colonoscopies, those are not good tests and blood is really not gonna show much unless you've got a special kind of blood. It's not it, they just don't do it. But I think that's really cool for us because While we do the eav testing that we've talked about, some people do muscle testing right and the testing is as good as the person doing it. So we both muscle test and I have great confidence in our ability. But we're able to find out does this body have stress associated with parasites? It's not diagnostic, but I would dare say our testing is probably more accurate so great guide.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately there's. No, there's no way to like quantify that, because there's no good standardized testing that is perfoid, that's economically reasonable. It would cost so much money. I mean, as it is, when you do a stool test, they recommend you do three collections, like you have to do poop test three days in a row. Well, if you didn't pass eggs till the fourth day, it's still literally a crapshoot.
Speaker 1:You're so funny, it's true, yeah, yeah. So there, yeah, I think that testing is problematic. That's why we rely on the EAV testing but also looking at a person's situation right, right, looking at their symptoms.
Speaker 2:that we know to look beyond.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know and note also, just even with testing or not testing, we always do some sort of testing. We do assume that most people have it, but we're not going to just jump into that. But when we're dealing with people who have known toxic levels of environmental chemicals or heavy metals or mycotoxins parasites thrive on these toxins. So if I see a test, a test result that has all these different toxins, you know the conversation goes something like well, we are going to start addressing these, but we're also going to do some parasite cleansing along the way, because you could clear out all of your heavy metals but if you don't clear out the parasites, you're still going to have heavy metals in you and you're still going to be feeling awful.
Speaker 1:Well, because those parasites hang on to the heavy metals. And in looking at that back to the whole fish thing, right? So they're saying that fish that are grown in dirty water they grow these, they have these parasites and those parasites. Or the fish, the fish, no, the parasites hold on to like an enormous amount of metals relative to what you would get just from eating the fish.
Speaker 2:Well, you think of the high amounts of heavy metals that we see in people nowadays. And there's a lot of other factors, but I feel like we see higher levels of heavy metals and other environmental toxins than ever before. That's why it matters what you're eating. That's where you have to start. What's going into your mouth and where was it grown?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's very true. And parat, yeah, so bad, okay. So standard treatments though. Now, just because we are we are parasite deniers in America, doesn't mean we don't have drugs for them. We have lots of drugs for them. I mean they're called anti-helmets or anti-parasitics and they're common to like ivermectin. That's the one everybody knows right, and that's been used for decades, decades for many parasitic infections.
Speaker 1:But then there's albendazole I think a really interesting one, a finbendazole. So for those of you who want to go down a rabbit hole probably don't do it on Google, maybe go to Brave Browser or something but type in finbendazole and prostate cancer and you will find thousands and thousands of stories of men who are diagnosed with prostate cancer, who took this anti-parasitic and their prostate cancer went away. I'm not saying it's true and I'm not saying it's not true. I'm saying it's out there. And we also know you can find lots of stories where people were diagnosed with cancer and when they go in to do surgery, they found it was a parasitic cyst. So what was the cancer really? Was it a tumor that had its own vessels or was it another organism taking away?
Speaker 2:from the post-organism.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So there is a lot of that, and I'm not saying all cancer is parasite. So, please, you know anyone out there like if you have cancer and you're going, oh, it's a parasite. No, that's not necessarily the case, but I do think that parasites play a role in a lot of our chronic health issues and if you have a depressed immune system, you're going to be more susceptible to any type of infection, be it bacterial, viral, fungal, parasitic.
Speaker 2:Right, you become a welcome host to these things because your immune system is basically saying, hey, come on in. The front door's open.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, but then too, okay. So look at this, and this is again very interesting Hydroxychloroquine Now we use it here in America for lupus, but it's an anti-malarial drug, right? And malaria is a disease caused by the parasite Plasmodium. That's delivered via mosquito bites or, yeah, mosquito bites. Now in many countries in Africa you just go down to the corner drug store, it's not prescription, you just go buy it. That's because malaria is a thing. Right here, you have to.
Speaker 1:I have a friend with malaria. I mean, she had to go to the doctor to get tested, to be diagnosed, and then she got her hydroxychloroquine. But if you look at, okay, we're going to go down the hole. If you look at COVID, covid was a virus, right, no doubt. I think COVID was a lot of things, but there are one of the one of the drugs that people reported feeling helped by, besides ivermectin, this hydroxychloroquine. Is it because it does also have strong anti-biral properties or is it because there is some aspect of COVID that responded to anti-parasitic action by a drug? Just something to think about, right, and it's interesting too. People in Africa didn't get COVID at the rates the rest of the world did, and some people say it's because they could go down to the corner drug store and get their hydroxychloroquine with no trouble. So I think it's just interesting to think about. So we could go further, but I'll just leave it there. Yeah, stir the pot a little bit.
Speaker 2:I think, though, whether you're using a pharmaceutical which can be effective, they're not always entirely effective. I know so many people and really honestly myself included I took a bit of ivermectin through COVID and thought I should be good, but then, when I did our super duper parasite cleanse, you know what? Two years later, after having had pretty regular ivermectin, it's like I hadn't taken anything because this cleanse produced so much that I needed to get out of my system.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of worms, but it can just. It can take a long time. It's challenging to address parasites. You don't do it just one and done. Even if it's a medication, it's not one and done. It takes time.
Speaker 1:And I think you know for us, like we start people, there's different ways to do it and I learn from my clients all the time. There's different ways to do it. You can do it around the full moon, and let's talk about that for a minute why we do it around the full moon. So if you ask any labor and delivery nurse, they'll tell you lots of babies are born around the full moon. We're ranchers. Lots of calves are born around the full moon, not necessarily on the day of the start of around right? I know all four of my daughters were born within a week of a full moon. So whatever, do with that, with what you want, I still don't think the babies come until they're really ready. You know for the most part, but Around the full moon, that is when worms reproduce, parasites will reproduce.
Speaker 2:That's when they lay a lot of eggs.
Speaker 1:Therefore, if you attack at that time, you're gonna be more productive with what you get rid of. But even at that, is that always enough, helena?
Speaker 2:No it is not, and it really depends on the person, depends on what kind of bugs we're dealing with and it depends on what they can tolerate, because it can. It can be rough trying to kill off these bugs, and so you have to repeat if we do a full moon cycle, we do it for at least three months in a row, I mean at least, and sometimes that's still with some monthly Protocol as well, just not as intense, but it's it takes. It takes time because you want to make sure that you get each round of these bugs laying their eggs and because it's not gonna be. You did it and they're all gone. Nope, you're gonna get a lot, but there could still be some in there hiding deep down in the dark, hiding places of your body. Yeah, well, in so many times.
Speaker 1:I think too a lot of people believe that you have to feel worse before you feel better, and that's something that you and I definitely do not agree with.
Speaker 1:But, we ease people into it. The first thing is like you don't go in anywhere and go. Oh yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna get rid of garbage. We're just gonna throw it up against this window and it's gonna disappear. No, maybe we should open the window or open the door, right. So kind of the same thing with us. We need to open all these exits up, like if you're chronically constipated and we start killing stuff, you're not gonna feel good and you're probably just gonna get really bloated, crampy and more constipated. We want to make sure that all the elimination like skin, lungs, kidneys, bowels, all of that Works, so we spend a little time preparing All right.
Speaker 2:That's why I mean, we don't ever start people off with killing the bugs, because, like you're saying, sharon, it's like trying to throw something against the window and it's not gonna get out. And and with that being said, though, even when you have opened all the windows and all the drains are working, there can still be some problems that happen, but we work really hard to make sure that those types of symptoms are as mild as possible. Yeah, because you shouldn't have to bulldoze through feeling ten times worse before you're better, and that's where we work. You know we work closely with our clients, and I tell all of mine hey, as we get going on this journey, please let me know if something changes in your bowels or if you aren't sweating. You know we need to know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think too, like the first. So if I think back to the first parasite cleanse I did it was hold a Clark and if I mean she's kind of the og like she was doing all the parasite Research and work and a lot of people have done her stuff and a lot of people like man, it changed my life. And there are a lot of people who say I never really felt anything. And I was one of those. I was like I mean, I didn't feel any different. And then when we do ours, it's like why I didn't feel any different the first time when I did the easy version, it wasn't until I did the advanced version. That was like holy moly. Now I know what people are talking about. Yeah, and Everybody hits there. It's not hitting a wall, but you kind of hit that point where it's like, oh, here's a breakthrough. It's different for everybody because we're all magical.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the breakthrough is magical, but it's. It's also very interesting and I think you know if you're squeamish and you've made it this far, you just encourage you. Like some people go, I'm gonna do the parasite lens, but I'm not looking in the toilet. Okay, don't look in the toilet.
Speaker 2:Hey, but I always said, if anything actually comes out of me, I I'm just gonna die. And then when it happened, I felt like I was going to die for a little bit before because I did it really, really harsh. I don't do that to other people, I just do that to myself. But once you've passed it and then you see what's in the toilet, it's so satisfying and, as gross as it is, we tell everyone look at what's coming out of you.
Speaker 1:But it doesn't just come out of your bowels. No, it's not. We've had somebody blow one out of their nose. It had been in their sinuses. So back to like swimming in rivers and lakes. I grew up in a lake, love lakes, but we address parasites in all the likely hangouts. We have had people throw vomit and.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not fun, but then at the same time, it's like how, how productive was that? Sometimes, I think, when we take an antibiotic for an infection, it's like, uh-huh, I get, I feel better. There's just something so satisfying about a tangible result from from all the work that you've done and, yeah, parasite remedies will do that. Now it's so much scabies or malaria or or lies sometimes lies, but but they just, they disappear and you want that.
Speaker 2:That's what you. You want them to do more here.
Speaker 1:And so a lot of people. People use different things and they use different methods. We use many different methods. We are pretty Careful I mean not we're very careful with what we have Curated to use, but we are creative sometimes in making it doable for people and I think that's the benefit of working with a professional is Having somebody who okay, this isn't their first rodeo and they understand that your needs don't fall within what the norm is and we can work around. We have so many workarounds and there are some of these workarounds?
Speaker 1:Or just that we're gonna do baby doses for two months, because that's what it's gonna take.
Speaker 2:I mean, I've had people where we can't graduate beyond that and you know what?
Speaker 1:it's okay, it's a marathon, yeah, and sometimes those baby doses long enough do just as much as a real hard and heavy fast Pulse kill. So that's, you know, there's always more than one way to achieve the result. But for people who do want to look at doing it yourself, you know. Let's talk about Some of the natural things that nature has given us to fight Parasites, besides pickled ginger and wasabi.
Speaker 2:Which are yummy, but you know, you've got herbs like potty, I'll go. Or black walnut, Sweet warm wood garlic clove. You know these really strong, stringent, mm-hmm ingredients really. And what would you say, sharon, neem, yes, neem, oh neem.
Speaker 1:Oh right, I know, yeah, a lot of those natural ones. They're not just for bacteria or fungus, they have anti parasitic Properties as well. There's so many, so many things out there to something to to think about.
Speaker 2:So these are the approaches when you're going to try to kill these things. But what if you also quit feeding the bugs? What a concept. There's so many things in the standard American diet that make these types of issues first world problems. The amount of sugar that we eat that is just fuel for these bugs. They I mean, think about how you feel when you eat sugar. These bugs get hyped up on it too. And yeah, you know. And then dairy that that really feeds in to the bugs and the mucus that they're already creating Too many carbs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I have a client who taught me this and and I didn't know this, but in her country, or I think it's a more cultural thing based on her culture. But they would do the full moon cleanse, but they would start a few days early. Then on the day of the full moon, you fast and then at the time of the full moon, you drink milk, because the sugar in the milk would coax out the parasites and that's when you kill Kind of an interesting concept yeah that's how I love that, yeah, but yeah, just another interesting approach.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of different ways to hit these suckers and and milk feeds them, and that culture definitely realizes Yep milk sugar. It's a great Way to bait parasites, for sure.
Speaker 2:So you could start by removing them from your diet, though. Yeah, add more things like vegetables, fiber like vegetables. Yeah, the fiber just sweeps them out. They can't. They can't thrive off of it. Your good bugs can, but not the bad ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's true is fire. You know, I know there's a lot of never, never thought. I see the day when we're like vegetables or bad. Vegetables are great and vegetables do Nourish us, they provide great energy, but, yeah, for cleaning out your, your gut, nothing. Well, it's nature's broom. Yeah, we've always called it because it sounds horny, but it really does help to sweep out Unwanted parts of whether it's undigested food, yeast, overgrowth, parasites and not all parasites are just in the intestinal tract. I think we've concentrated on that, but I mean they can be in the liver.
Speaker 2:Um, all bladder. That's a big one.
Speaker 1:That's why we have special protocols To access the whole hepatobiliary system, whether it's, you know, sluggish gallbladder or Ballstones, yeah, yeah, absolutely. People who get nauseous every time they eat, or people who yeah, people who are wasting. There's a lot to look at there. Um, something I think people can do just self-examination is think about how you feel after you eat, and this kind of goes to Digestion. But it can also speak to what are you feeding the bugs you have? Because we all have bugs. It's just part of the human experience.
Speaker 1:But if you're a person who tends to get bloated and gassy right after you eat, that's gonna be more of a fat and protein digestion issue and that typically is going to point to either low hydrochloric acid and or poor liver gallbladder performance with digestion. If it takes you a couple of hours to feel bloated or yucky after you eat, that is gonna more likely be a Sugar starch digestion issue. So you might consider am I loading my diet too heavily For my body to handle in one of these areas? And there's other things you want to do right, like digestive enzymes just to aid in digestion and absorption. Compete with those bugs for the nutrients that you are so diligently taking in.
Speaker 2:But then You're, you're kind of the queen we call Elena Our enema queen and I wear this title very proudly for because I Think some people know of an enema to like okay, flush out the colon if you're constipated. Maybe you've heard of that, but we use coffee edimas in our world to help support liver detoxification. And when you are dealing with Killing off parasites, you know, or just trying to mitigate the icky feeling that you have and you don't know you have parasites. Yet we use enema is to alleviate that and they're so easy to do and they call me the enema queen because I Refuse to do them forever and ever. And then when I finally did one Ten, eleven years ago I don't know longer, I lose track, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I had to bug you for a long time I know yeah, I told you I was like not happening, not doing it. I don't care how great you think it is, but after that first one I was blown away. My life was changed and you can ask anyone who knows me closely. I Will talk about enemas at any time. It is dinner. We need to do a podcast episode on enemas, here's the poop. But when you do enemas, even if you aren't doing a parasite cleanse, sometimes you'll pass things.
Speaker 2:You'll especially pass bile film, but I've seen worms come out, I've seen like soft gallstones come out, and this is just my personal experience, let alone all the fun pictures people send us when they do their enemas or just their cleanses, and we always like to see the pictures. We want to know too.
Speaker 2:We do, we do, but enemas are a great, great tool that can help you, because it mitigates some of these symptoms when you are killing them off or when you're getting ready to, to just help open all the exits. Yeah, yes, I am the enema queen. Ask me your questions.
Speaker 1:We, we try to convert people all the time. And then there's castor oil packing. Yes, that plays a role. Lymphatic Drainage therapy is really important. You know, we use herbs, we use homeopathics.
Speaker 2:It's not just take these pills, you can't do that, but it's also hey, let's do these things because what if ever all the exits were open, your body would actually take care of a lot of it on its own. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, I think you know. For for those of you who are like I think I need a parasite cleanse, we're not saying don't try it on your own, but we are saying it might be a better outcome if you let a professional help you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's just so many things that that your body can do when you're going through this and you know you can do something at home, but it's usually not going to be as effective because, also, we've got access to Supplements that you can only get through practitioners. You know we have nutraceuticals, things that are going to be stronger, but you need professional help.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and we have definitely spent a lot of years Sifting through, continuously educating ourselves and really I mean our health paradigm Changes. You know, for a long time everything was a virus and then everything was yeast. I think parasites have been in there three times. But I think it's understanding that, you know, to the old analogy of you've got this cup inside of you and it can be filled with Toxins like a garbage can, but at some point, if you can't take the garbage out, something is going to make the Something's going to tip it over, something's going to cause the overflow, and so we want to keep people in a state where they can detoxify or they can get rid of parasites, where they can experience Feeling good and not crashing every time they try to do something to improve their health, and Taking care of parasites is really important.
Speaker 1:So for those of you who know you have heavy metals, I mean, pay attention, because parasites could be part of that, and getting rid of Parasites is a great way to lower your load of Heavy metals. So, and it's not just killing parasites, but it's how we bind them and usher them out, and that's where working with Professionals who know what finds what is really important as well. So, yeah, I think I Think it's there's a lot to it, but it's fascinating and it's fun. And hey, if you're excited, go buy a parasite Kit and get after it and send us your feedback. It goes well. May they'll force me with you and hey, we are here.
Speaker 2:We are here to help you and we work with people virtually and in person, and it's just one of those things that we we love it. It never gets old and and we want you to have the best outcome you can have. You know, yeah, you can spend a lot of time on you and energy Without getting the effective result that you need.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So you know, just kind of to wrap up, there's many different types of parasites. We would not treat Lyme disease and malaria the same way that we would deal with pinworms. It's not quite that simple. There's a different Approach for different situations. There are many tests available. I think if you're going to go mainstream stool testing gi map Is it gi 360, gi effects.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of decent stool tests, but remember that they're not actually testing the substance. It's going under a microscope and it's up to a human to not screw up and hopefully find the eggs. Okay, so a little rudimentary, but finding a functional medicine doctor is probably a better option for you, somebody who can do eav testing, our muscle testing. Of course we do that as well, but it doesn't mean if you want to do a parasite cleanse you don't necessarily have to test positive for parasites. You can safely assume if you checked any of the boxes, you know kissing your pets, walking barefoot, you know doing any of those things. There's a good chance you've been exposed. And if you've never done a flush, why not? What do you have to?
Speaker 2:lose.
Speaker 1:You know or?
Speaker 2:if you've never done an enema, you now know a queen.
Speaker 1:Call Elena. Absolutely, absolutely. Do you have anything to add Elena?
Speaker 2:I think you know we've covered all the basics and I Think anyone listening would benefit from a little cleanse, so absolutely.
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