Get ready for an adrenaline-filled ride as we, along with our unflinching business partners, Antoine Rummel Curtis and Casey Mr Old man Conqueror, pull back the curtain on our entrepreneurial journey. We share the struggles we've faced since the inception of Savage Combat Sports in 2018, and how the global pandemic sent shockwaves through our merchandise sales. Despite these hurdles, we're excited to let you in on a little secret - we're staging a comeback!
As we navigate the choppy waters of starting and maintaining a business amidst the pandemic, we take a deep dive into the possibilities that these challenging times have brought us. We delve into the power of marketing, the significance of building relationships, and how incorporating our attire into everyday wear can skyrocket our brand visibility. Moreover, we expand on the necessity of mindful interaction and the golden rule of treating others as you'd like to be treated, especially in testing times.
But this episode isn't just a recap. We're charging ahead, full steam into the future, mapping out the trajectory for Savage Combat Sports. The importance of keeping our roots intact and staying connected to our beginnings is on the agenda, along with the often-underestimated complexities of acquiring business licenses. We also dive into the potency of trademarking images for a brand's success. The episode wraps up with a stern discussion about the necessity of having a concrete plan for merchandise production and pricing. So, buckle up and join us as we traverse the highs and lows of our business journey, share some hard-learned lessons, and share our aspirations for the future.
Get ready for an adrenaline-filled ride as we, along with our unflinching business partners, Antoine Rummel Curtis and Casey Mr Old man Conqueror, pull back the curtain on our entrepreneurial journey. We share the struggles we've faced since the inception of Savage Combat Sports in 2018, and how the global pandemic sent shockwaves through our merchandise sales. Despite these hurdles, we're excited to let you in on a little secret - we're staging a comeback!
As we navigate the choppy waters of starting and maintaining a business amidst the pandemic, we take a deep dive into the possibilities that these challenging times have brought us. We delve into the power of marketing, the significance of building relationships, and how incorporating our attire into everyday wear can skyrocket our brand visibility. Moreover, we expand on the necessity of mindful interaction and the golden rule of treating others as you'd like to be treated, especially in testing times.
But this episode isn't just a recap. We're charging ahead, full steam into the future, mapping out the trajectory for Savage Combat Sports. The importance of keeping our roots intact and staying connected to our beginnings is on the agenda, along with the often-underestimated complexities of acquiring business licenses. We also dive into the potency of trademarking images for a brand's success. The episode wraps up with a stern discussion about the necessity of having a concrete plan for merchandise production and pricing. So, buckle up and join us as we traverse the highs and lows of our business journey, share some hard-learned lessons, and share our aspirations for the future.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are live. This is the Mr Red Rims podcast. I'm your host, brian. Mr Red Rims, maxwell. Today I have two of my fellow comrades and business partners from Savage Combat Sports Antoine Rummel Curtis and Casey Mr Old man Conqueror. How y'all doing today, fellas, doing well sir.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me on your podcast. I am greatly honored. Is that how we rock?
Speaker 1:How you doing today, casey.
Speaker 3:What did you?
Speaker 1:say I'll sit you outside. So today's topic we're going to be talking about being in business together and talking about the, the future and some of the present stuff that has gone on with Savage Combat Sports. So, like Casey just said, and I just said, we outside today. So, gentlemen, I'm gonna kick it off by saying Savage Combat Sports, we're on a comeback tour as of this fall. I'm putting on the spot as of right now. We're coming back this fall.
Speaker 2:So, ladies and gentlemen, stay tuned, we haven't even talked about it.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, you know me, I'm on the spot, very random as hell type of person, but you know, let's kick it off by saying that you know we've all been in business together since what? 2018, we started 21 Savage Combat Sports. We started Savage Combat Sports in 2018 and you know we've dropped some shirts, some hoodies and different apparel merch stickers, tank tops, hats and you know, on the up and up, you know it was pretty. You know we had a good run and until the beginning of COVID the beginning of COVID you know we had a decent, decent stock worth of things and then, like I said, the beginning of COVID messed us up a little bit and slowed things down.
Speaker 3:We couldn't do anything to move merchandise.
Speaker 2:We couldn't hand out a goddamn shirt.
Speaker 3:Algorithm shit on this and everything else with social media and everything else too.
Speaker 2:It was just bad times. Yeah, motherfuckers are afraid to buy shit. Is this COVID proof? And shit like that?
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, we was always on lockdown for at the beginning, so we couldn't, you know, you know articulate and throw out designs and be outside. We were stuck in the house and some of us were blessed to be able to go to work and I'm gonna keep it a stack.
Speaker 2:I think this time the way I think this time I think people were getting too comfortable. You know, that's the thing about with clothes and stuff like Nike's and shirts, like that people get too comfortable. That's around and I think, like once we stopped, you know, I mean, I think people like kind of missed it. When that kind of missed it, he definitely missed it. So, like you know, I'm sure you get.
Speaker 3:You know everybody.
Speaker 2:So I honestly, I think I think we needed, I think we needed time away to make people more not really make people more, appreciate it more, and so you know what I mean. Like I'm sure you got a bunch of requests and.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you got a bunch of requests for and like I have to, and I told him they know we'll bring it back out. You know just when are we when we get to the point and I guess now we're to the point and fall which I mean it's which is good, which is good. So for all those people that's been asked for shorts and everything else, we know a lot more people are fighting now, so a lot more people wanting shorts and shirts and stuff like that. So you know we took a. How long did we take?
Speaker 3:like two years, two years it's been 2021, 2021, I think it was 2020, that I finally said that, like I couldn't do it yeah, so it's only about about three years it was just it was just taking up too much time and everything else trying to keep up with, like the cuz. I mean, you know it was, you know COVID-19, everything else, because it's 2020. That really screws yeah, yeah, for sure, and we couldn't do do much with the page and everything else.
Speaker 3:I think that I had some frustrations and everything else with this page activity just in general mm-hmm, mr content, to the right side of me yeah, I watched everything, just just die off mm-hmm like so quickly, and I mean the first time we saw real business and everything else was the time that we did the show at EWC right mm-hmm and we did like 700 and some dollars in merchandise sales.
Speaker 1:Yeah night yeah, that that was.
Speaker 3:That was big shout out to everybody for that right, it was there with us, did $15 and merchandise and your fight was the big thing around here yes, sir, facts so that point, you kind of figured out that we had a little bit of a niche mm-hmm we could expand. We ended up at Kim's place.
Speaker 1:We did a lot of business up there too yeah, that that was actually going to Titans of the cage. Shout out to Kim and Greg ring for allowing us to be able to sell our product at their shows. And you know we we done pretty well there and you know, like us, like we were talking about earlier when, when COVID started, you know we were not necessarily tapped out but it put us on hold. But you know I can say it yeah.
Speaker 2:I said that in case you didn't say that I put it a whole order, like during the COVID thing, right like a y'all.
Speaker 3:Remember the pair of Bellarm shirts yeah, yes, sir, what are? The pair of Bellarm shirts and I ordered the repertain tops and everything else and you know I don't take the shoe as we're able to put it on that at time and everything else.
Speaker 4:We were all financially tight and yeah, right, so you get crazy.
Speaker 3:I don't think anybody would say like I fucking went into debt over the shit, like I like the credit card purchase and everything else, and then I sat on this merch for for like a year and a half yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, and finally I got to the point was like I'm just gonna take and, you know, start selling this at a yard sale or something like that you know you get frustrated with it once you put so much money into it, and then you start to see things going nowhere yeah, and that's another one of the things still I don't think people realize is that you know when you you know you put money into this shit and you know you do it for like the people and shit like that, but then like the half, somebody look at you and go I mean, can me do it for a little cheaper, like I just put my rent back, yeah
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, yeah for sure you know, bare knuckle, build a bear. Shit you were. You were taking anything that you could find at the time and anything else, staying, you know, busy and tied up and you're just getting fat.
Speaker 1:And then I'm just sitting back getting fat, getting fat, yes, sir I don't call, I mean I got calls paid right.
Speaker 3:I got 200 pounds today exactly no way. I got 200 pounds this is what happened.
Speaker 1:When you talk to your partner on the regular, I fucking talk to you guys on a fucking day.
Speaker 3:Listen, it was not a number that I advertised, that's for sure at the time big facts, big facts but, yeah. I think we were all kind of on a different mode at the time and everything else so I got really, really frustrated with it. I was just like I don't see, like nobody's doing anything with this shit, because you were focused on your shit.
Speaker 3:You were focused on your shit and I was just trying to be business, business, business try to push this thing and then I think the nail in the coffin for me when I found was like all right, I'm fucking done, was when, you know, I kept trying to push the LLC thing let's go get a business license to make everything as official as possible and we never. It's just like we never could get around to it yeah, I feel in come to find out like during the whole COVID thing we could have took out alone at the time.
Speaker 2:People get a rest. Well, now this.
Speaker 3:This wasn't like any type of like long crawl when I want to pee.
Speaker 2:There's the idea. It's not, it was one of those. Yeah, yeah, I see the.
Speaker 3:Basically you just have to show that you were, you were, financially affected by COVID and we could have financially showed that we were affected by COVID because, remember, we had, you know, shows and stuff that we were going to. That was a big portion of what ourselves, yeah, like relying just on internet. So you know, word of mouth meet people selling t-shirts the facts.
Speaker 2:I'm in Lambo with that money.
Speaker 1:So I mean that's that money could have could have technically jump started the company for yeah, I love when I found that out after the fact, I was just like yeah, man, like when, like when you told said some of that nature in the group chat, I was like damn, that's what me. To be quite honest, that was one of the reasons I started looking into more business deal type stuff and starting to look at things a little bit more that that. Actually, since I was on the path of, you know, growing with bare knuckle and you know, trying to, not only trying to grow my name a little bit more, but also, as you would say, being a bare knuckle, build a bear with all the bare knuckle stuff that I was wearing I'm not gonna say I was kissing anybody's ass or anything yeah, I was marketing myself and being a company person, because, you know, in order to make it in certain type of companies and places, you have to, you know, broadcast yourself, show your face.
Speaker 1:You know, make, make them see you. It's not like it's kissing ass or anything. You've got to make your presence felt and at that point in time, that that's what I was on to be quite honest, and you know, hey, trust me at fights, when I would get to the fights and traveling on flights and stuff, you know I was still. You know I had my savage combat sports brand on this stuff, especially my hat, like that. That second was a. We came out with three types of hats, right, yeah, yeah, that that third hat with the logo that's on your shirt right now was like, like my favorite hat with Antoine. You still owe me a hat. I'm gonna need that because you've been promising me that after like three weeks just saying that's the one I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:You said you's gonna bring me the other one, but whatever, I hear you. I gave you a shirt. I got your shirt in the car. I'm about to give that back to you. Swash, clean, sealed and deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, that's right, you do that. My fucking city have a savage sure not gonna wear that shirt he won't go away, you're not even wearing a little bit about wearing that, yeah. I got my savage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so did you bring your savage shirt also I thought I did put my my white savage shirt on my bag my bad but you know I started.
Speaker 2:He's trying to start my shirt and we don't have on just for the people.
Speaker 3:They can't see this shit.
Speaker 2:They're knuckle bear knuckle with the fucking socks, with the fucking socks, I rest my fucking case oh, by the way, short break, I have it's not yeah no, but for real.
Speaker 1:This episode is brought to you by at savage combat sports. Okay, there we go on all social media facebook, instagram. Do we got twitter or did we shut that down?
Speaker 3:it wasn't worth it for what we were doing okay, I got you twitter's different twitter's just become like a political network these days.
Speaker 2:Facts, facts, facts. I think the audio show is.
Speaker 1:They assin like cussin and they racist shit on there I just be posting the posts on twitter just to be fine and I just promote my fights on twitter. But you know, follow us at savage combat sports on facebook and on instagram. But also this episode is powered by booked up energy, so definitely check them out on twitter, instagram and facebook. I will say something. Yes, I'm done with my my advertising.
Speaker 2:Alright, you got it so I will say something cool, it's funny. It's funny because, like I get my job, I see a lot of I'm pretty sure these guys are buying like their grip from you, like a lot of the veterans, like I see them, they'll be wearing like the savage combat stuff. And I walk by and I'm like, damn, that's pretty good shirt, that's pretty cool shirt. And the guy was like you okay, and I'm like there's no clue, he has no idea it means that they like that's all.
Speaker 3:The dude had a the blue one on the six of our tyranos shirt, right, mm-hmm, and I was like I was dope shirt.
Speaker 1:He was like cool, he just like keeps moving all to the gym and I was like like bro do you know, I have no clue.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna show up in your back right now like how do you stop yourself from being a douchebag?
Speaker 3:I know I fucking made that shirt it is cool seeing stuff like that being out at random and seeing people wear it and everything else. I mean, it's that also that it's been since what? 2019 that we were really selling stuff like that and people still wearing it and people still seeing it everywhere facts we're in 2023 and people are still wearing it everywhere.
Speaker 1:I had this kid at my job one day. I had my savage hoodie on and he was looking at it and he was like man. I think my mom bought some of that gear at one of the local fights. That means who your mama? Hey look to be quite honest, I did ask him who his mother was and he told me who his mother was.
Speaker 1:And then, you know, the next day he had his uh, savage hoodie on and a savage shirt and he's like yeah, my mom told me last night that she got this at the elite warrior challenge. Fights, man. I don't even remember.
Speaker 1:I had a young kid and she apparently she bought two hoodies and like three shirts at the very it was the very last event at the elite warrior challenge held in 2019 and she and she bought stuff. So I was like, oh man, that's dope. And he's like do you know the guys that owned this? I was like, yeah, me and two other guys we the ones who own it, and you know we were set up at the fights. He's like, oh shit, that was crazy I got my solution and you still go there.
Speaker 4:Is it a stereo right?
Speaker 2:there, I mean don't leave nothing. Oh, no, no, no, that one leads down everything about the other one. They speak right there oh well, yeah, I mean that one.
Speaker 1:That one leads down to the gym downstairs but you know it's pretty awesome to see that our, our staff is still out there. And you know, like I was saying earlier not to revert back, but to revert back covid that that that first half of when covid smacked us in the mouth, that hurt us for sure, because you know we's inside and some of us was was blessed to be able to still go to work and well, the hype, the hype, the hype had died yeah the hype had died.
Speaker 1:But then, out of nowhere, during covid the hype like I guess people got bored After they got that first stimulus check all of a sudden people start blowing us up and it was like boom, it was like we were back again and it was like dope as fuck. And I was like, damn bro, we, we, we in the house, like um, how am I even supposed to get this to you and you, you, kc, being graceful enough to be able to still ship stuff out and ship stuff to people, or you know, I would bring you stuff, you know, on the low, without the police seeing me like like driving on the streets. I'd taken back roads to get to your house. This year.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, I had to do a couple of like sessions on you know little house calls and I'm like I think it's like damn bro. Yeah, like like I'm really giving the fuck about this being a straight ghost.
Speaker 1:While driving, you know, I pull up to Casey's house, make sure my lights is off and I get to a street. I call them a key. See, I'm outside like like we're doing a dope deal.
Speaker 2:I'm just dropping on some shirts in the hood. Let me stop talking about been PD. I gotta drive out this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were fun times.
Speaker 3:I started my whole quarantine confessions videos.
Speaker 1:Hey, man, you need to bring those back. Man, One of those popped up in my timeline a couple of days ago and I said I was geeking. To be quite honest, that shit had me dead yeah.
Speaker 2:Training in the back. Yeah, feet feet cooking bumblebees and shit buzzing by.
Speaker 1:You was also training in the mountains, to train in the mountains.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like I mean literally fucking train must fucking outlaw that I know that one time I came to your house, that one time when we got here, Because you use training.
Speaker 2:This man was trained was training on his balcony on the balcony, at the nose, his name is going on out there my your fucking business.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, we had smacked back into existence, you know, and at some point in doing in that part of COVID and we were booming again and that felt great. And then all of a sudden, when it started to to get hold on, hold on, sir.
Speaker 1:But to my point is you know, we got back to that certain level of being on a high horse again and then you know, I guess the COVID numbers went back up and we died again. And then I just took a smart break, I mean like, yeah, I guess we could, is that what we?
Speaker 3:can call that. I had to take a break. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I told you guys that I didn't care if y'all continued on and did your thing, and I don't know you just didn't do anything out of respect for me, or that's that's a. I thought that I'd provided clear instructions on how to continue doing orders and provided all the artwork and everything else.
Speaker 2:Well, take a break Like we are. We all take a break. One person take a break. We all take a break. I mean the break too Like yeah, I feel like I got shit going on and shit like that.
Speaker 1:My thing, my thing with it. You know, even when you know we decided to like just stop and either just stop doing shit regardless but or take a break. And you know, when you send everything to us in both our our drop boxes and emails and stuff like that, you know I had a, I had a me moment. I was like whom I got? You know, I got the money. I can go ahead and do this by myself, but at the same point time, you know, I got two guys that you know we started this together and out of respect. That's just me having my moment because you know, once again, we're on lockdown during COVID and we're, you know, just sitting still and having to think about shit and make different moves. I got to thinking, you know I'm not going to do this by myself. I want to, you know, continue to ground with, with my homies, the guys that I started with. And you know I don't want to, like the president says or the military says no man left behind, so I didn't want to do that by myself.
Speaker 1:I didn't want to leave nobody behind.
Speaker 4:And then see you.
Speaker 1:Try to get us counted early today. God bless you. I should have said which president I want to talk about, but you should know what you can edit it out when you just can't edit that, no fuck that, no editing. It's all raw like cocaine. Oh God bless spicy.
Speaker 3:No, I should usually step down by the time and get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna say you, stopped there I think you could go to some broth or something, yeah, but. But anyways, you know, I didn't want to do it without you guys because, you know, at one point I did think.
Speaker 2:I mean, we talked about it, we told you like go ahead, bro, Like yeah, but you got it.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean, we started this together, but and I didn't want to continue with on without being together and having you guys as input, because sometimes I let's just say sometimes our inputs all together were correct, so everything was a go, and sometimes our inputs be like two people want this and one man was like, or two of us were like, and one man was like design thing right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, some of us like we have different demographics as far as you know, the people that purchase our stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir.
Speaker 3:Like I've got like a ton of like the two way type stuff and everything else like. So, like the six super tyrannous thing, right, that became more of a political thing and it also, you know, popped up you know, throughout COVID and all that other stuff. So people, were big into that shirt, so I knew it would be a good seller. As far as you know financial wise did it have anything to do with fighting? Nope, not really. I mean, unless you want to fight the government yeah fighting the man or whatever, but did we drop that one?
Speaker 2:though Simitar.
Speaker 3:Six of a time yeah, sure, it's even killing some hoodie. Oh, man See, look see that we did the blue, the blue, red, white, blue shirt. Oh yeah, yes sir, yes sir, you had some US and then we did what he said we sold the shirt though, and the hoodie because it came on the heels of like the whole COVID thing and everything else.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, that American flag, and especially that one originally dropped during a full for July, remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, right before the four for July. And then it was like then we did it, then we redid it.
Speaker 2:I think we either came out with some more.
Speaker 1:We came out with, instead of the shirts, we came out with the hoodies. At that point and those hoodies were started looking at the graffiti design.
Speaker 3:the graffiti design so they're the graffiti design Race, one for the graffiti design. For that we actually paid a good bit of money to have that logo designed.
Speaker 1:So if y'all still our shit, we will sue you for everything that you have.
Speaker 3:There's. There's another company out there like a savage barbell company or something like that. I've been ready to sue the fuckers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because from what I've seen, the problem is?
Speaker 3:is that you know a? Lot of a lot of what we had was text right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I can't. I can't trademark text in a certain way, font styles, things like that. Right, like we did, the savage name.
Speaker 1:I mean sparingly, you can now.
Speaker 3:But we have to trademark each image.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's unnecessary to do that, right, but it's also necessary because somebody usually we can sue the fuck out of it.
Speaker 3:I don't think that we're at the level that we need to be worried about.
Speaker 1:Understandable. Understandable.
Speaker 3:And, that being said, like, if we do move forward with this right, let's just do this above the board, let's go get the business license.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, thanks.
Speaker 3:Like if we need to do one run to get the money up, you know, in the first place to be able to go purchase the business license or whatever. If that's what y'all want to do, then then I think we do that.
Speaker 1:This is the exact conversation that I wanted to have and I'm glad we're having it right here and right now. It's up at Savage Combat Sports on all social media except for can't even call it Twitter, no more. We got to call it.
Speaker 3:X. Oh hey, elan decided to change the name. I do. I do have some bad news Now. We still own the Savage Combat Sports domain.
Speaker 1:Hell yes. However we got to pay for it. I'm with it.
Speaker 3:No, no, no no. What happened, oh God we're trying to get the website set up and everything else for like hosting and everything else, because just because you own the domain doesn't mean we have hosting for the domain and I went through some company that this tech guy we're told me about and the company went out of business while I was like working with them.
Speaker 4:So you think they?
Speaker 3:will get you switched over this other one. Whatever the other one was that when it got switched it didn't work like it. It hasn't registered. So we used to be able to go to Savage Combat Sports, calm, yeah, and it would automatically redirect to our Facebook page. Yeah doesn't do that anymore.
Speaker 1:Well, damn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I've got to go back and do a whole bunch of work on the back end to get the domain and everything else taken care of. I still got the business emails and everything else active All that so ladies and gentlemen, we have another special guest.
Speaker 3:Rumble Curtis has joined the chat and now he's walking away, but so but I mean, how do you, like I already know how you feel about, how you feel about it and like making sure that we, like we keep this, like everything like tight, 100 like, and I don't know how to grow it. I feel like we have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, facts we got to, we're gonna get out of a local scene.
Speaker 3:I feel like we have to.
Speaker 1:And you know I've got some, some ideas with that. That. You know I've somewhat kicked to y'all too. I can, like I told y'all one day last week and I, you know, also screened the shot at part of me and his conversation that we had. But you know, rapper, singer, host, tour, whatever you want to, entrepreneur, whatever you want to call them, don't you say, you fucking say fucking say I've been.
Speaker 2:Look I would knock out these mics off the table and go home.
Speaker 1:Anyways, anyways, I've talked and chatted with little Bowie. God dammit, I just know I've chatted celebrity I won't even go say celebrity France. See, look, there y'all go man, look y'all can catch these.
Speaker 2:So welcome back to your celebrity friend. But I didn't know, you didn't have to kick it like that. No no, no, I mean I'm with it, I'm with it, I'm with it, I'm with it. I mean I'm in a better financial spot than I was back when we were doing it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know what I mean. Me too, for real, I was, I was fucking dying.
Speaker 3:I mean, I got no problem being 100% honest about it back when we first started doing this shit and everything else. Dude, I was only making like 30 grand a year For real. Yeah, they're like my regular job that I'm working. I was only making like 30 grand a year.
Speaker 2:I make considerable more, you know now, yeah, yeah, now I got a little bit.
Speaker 3:I'm a lot more comfortable with you know, being able to make you know the larger purchases and stuff and everything else that we need to.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So and so forth. But again, if we go out and we get our LLC and everything else, we can go and we can get business loans pretty much right away, instantly, instantly, like all three together, all three together Like we would be able to go. We go get the LLC and everything else because, it's all separate. Oh, okay, it doesn't really have a whole lot to do with, like your personal stuff.
Speaker 2:Is this something we can talk about or is this something we need to? I mean, we can talk about it here.
Speaker 1:I mean you know we ain't doing, saying nothing too crazy.
Speaker 4:I mean, I want to get a lot of the more people.
Speaker 2:This is something that everybody here, but everybody else might know.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is something that everybody should be able to listen to and get some, some not only validation, but also pick up some of the knowledge. Well, pick up some gems Also too. Hey, fighters out here.
Speaker 2:You're not going to be fighting forever, so you get. You better find something to fucking do. All right, motherfuckers, some of you motherfuckers yeah, you can remember retirement plans. Some of you motherfuckers are fighting. Just be fighting. You better have a private retirement plan. You better learn how to coach. Don't take our fucking idea, the fucking clothes. Y'all leave that shit to fuck alone. But y'all better learn something. Y'all better figure the fuck out, because we figured it out. Y'all better fucking figure it out. But don't take our shit because we're going to sue you. All right, let's go. I'm just going to put that up here.
Speaker 1:Well, he dropped the bomb.
Speaker 3:We'll leave that word is but yes, we can, we can get the loans right out and everything else, and we can. We can jump the story to this thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I'm with it and.
Speaker 3:You know like like I mean it's okay, Like, like we're like we're tomorrow thing, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But, like we were saying, you know some stuff we got to talk about off off mic and off camera because you know that's not all that the public needs to hear.
Speaker 2:But we don't need to give them all the juice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't need to give them all the juice.
Speaker 2:We're not going to give you, fucks, a set date. We come out. When we come out, we tell you guys, hey, here's the design, you know what I mean? Like we're not catering to nobody. I think that was the biggest thing. That was a big pet peeve of mine was that, like save, like we have, like you know, we have people, they like, they pre order, they want something, right, yeah, and then we get their order. And then, hey, bro, we got this special size for you and whoever else.
Speaker 3:And then you would have sitting on some budget yeah man.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so many people just said.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you need a larger size, larger size. I can't give them away.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Like bro, I gotta hold to.
Speaker 1:X right here, like I ordered for you, and you disappear, and then that's another thing to.
Speaker 2:Oh well, we like the other design. We didn't know this was gonna like. Bro, what the fuck I know how tight I was. I might know I got this shit specifically for you and your girl and you gonna fucking give me advice and what the fuck to come over next. I was fucking tight. I was like that, that was the. What was the last one? The hoodie, the hoodie shit. That's when I was like I don't want this in the one.
Speaker 3:I'm so hurt about that last one of the hoodies, because that's the one that we of course did that the design that we paid a lot for. Yeah, and everybody loved that design and then I got the one. It was actually it was two people that got the red hoodie.
Speaker 1:I really wanted one of those. I really wanted one of those hoodies.
Speaker 3:That was my favorite dude, I wore that shit everywhere. And then my dog Dallas. Yeah, I took it off one day when I got home and I just like said it Rest in peace to the homey.
Speaker 1:The dog are homey, dallas man. That, that was my guy when I would come over your house. Rest in peace to Dallas man.
Speaker 3:It was a great dog, but yeah, man he he tore that hoodie up. I was good because I was just like man. I can't get another one of these right now, hey to be quite for me to get another one like how much money do we have to spend? Yeah, get that one. Gets replaced.
Speaker 1:Hey to be quite honest, I'm gonna not necessarily put you guys on a spot, but I think that we should, when we come back full force, or tease it a little bit. We put a bit back in we should come. You know we should start with some of the OG stuff because you know the the pepper it back out there a little bit to let people know hey, hey, motherfuckers, we're back.
Speaker 2:You're giving too much.
Speaker 1:We're coming, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, but that hoodie, though, follow us coming people. So it's about to be hoodie season and I think we should come back out with that. I really want a red hoodie Motherfuckers got spoiled.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we could talk about that. We also have some low ass prices. Yeah like we were.
Speaker 2:I mean, we were, we were, we were we were making, we were making money right. Yes, sir.
Speaker 3:It was at least you know, up until that, last big order that I made was recouping. You know, everything, every single time. But. I'm starting to realize that, like with some of the, the other people who are kind of, you know, local and kind of running their brand stuff and everything else, how much are selling their stuff for? And some of those brands are trash, some of those people.
Speaker 1:some of those brands are trash. I hate to say it, but some of those brands that I've seen has been trash. I'm sorry to say it. You know I bought some of y'all stuff to show support, but that shit was trash. I'm sorry it on people, I'm sorry I'm not trying to sit on, but that shit was trash.
Speaker 3:The Savage Sunday pocket. What was it?
Speaker 1:Every fucking.
Speaker 3:Sunday, it was us trying to reel this motherfucker out.
Speaker 2:Tell you, you should have heard him earlier.
Speaker 3:Technically this is a Savage Sunday pocket. It is a.
Speaker 1:Savage Sunday podcast.
Speaker 2:Back my savage brother, brothers, there you go.
Speaker 1:I had to lift the savage hey, when we call Savage Combat sports, we're gonna have a not having no, savage, you're very honest.
Speaker 3:Be quite honest, we also need to come to to an agreement on this too, because another thing used to drive me crazy, and, and I know, I wasn't the only fucking one- here we go, let's go Do your shit. Is you getting on there and doing your touting thing? They're, they're like like the business podcast stuff and everything they have to sell shit.
Speaker 2:It's hard to sell shit, my motherfuckers don't like you, bro, damn it. I mean, they mean case. You got to do PR Like no dog. He didn't mean that shit. Yeah, he was his wild and, bro, come on, still by no, I fuck that. I'm like damn go, like we trying to, we trying to, we trying to run a business, bro, you gotta gotta know when we're leaving, bro you you right, you know season. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm saying, I'm saying Season, get at the food, understandable, understandable.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just like you Like.
Speaker 2:Hey, somebody in the back Come pull this man, oh please, he's doing a cut shit Like cut this, motherfucker, I mean because then we'll be like, hey, I would buy this, but I don't know that. That that I'm like. I mean he didn't mean that shit, bro. I mean, come on, dog, you can still buy a shit, like me and Casey still on there, like you know, come on, please buy this, this is us too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's us. I mean come on, I mean so. So yes, you need to, to keep that in mind.
Speaker 1:Yes, I mean, I know, I know, I'm really in a Brian Max.
Speaker 3:I do enough really in a Brian Maxwell.
Speaker 1:this when we out somewhere, why you say that Keep it a stat that's. I mean look what you mean.
Speaker 3:Why Like I?
Speaker 1:explained on me and Antoine's episode. I've been called a bully and and people said I've hurt their feelings, but I can't help but be me man. Like you know, I said I'm gonna just go ahead and say it. I've set myself to the side and became humble on the strength of you guys and other people around me for the longest time. Hold on, I ain't done yet. I'm gonna kick it right here and it's it has. It has abruptly Wait what? Hey, this is all feeling like look at your face, no bump all that?
Speaker 2:Who must it? Who made you this hard, bro Hold?
Speaker 1:on no bump that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go Pull it up. Pull it up. Show the receipts. I've been. Hold on, hold on. When'd you start? When'd you start?
Speaker 4:I've been humble for too long and I've got five minutes this morning.
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 1:He put in the receipts though you might want to see him. My kids receipts Alright, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Go hit him Some of this stuff. I wish I could show this. Okay but but Antoine can, can vouch for me here.
Speaker 1:Hold on.
Speaker 4:I'm the man of this city.
Speaker 2:Uh, what else, what else, what else? I've run this city. They come to see me and uh.
Speaker 3:I'm the biggest draw in the Roanoke Valley. I'm just saying I was pretty free.
Speaker 4:I was, I was on on the last one, but yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1:But that's pretty much what you said. That's pretty much what you're saying, To be quite honest.
Speaker 2:I was like, sir, we are your friends, sir.
Speaker 1:No, but for real though.
Speaker 2:I'm the biggest draw to see that, like Ain't no.
Speaker 3:Fuck us bro. Hollywood Maxwell.
Speaker 1:Say it again, say it again Welcome back Hollywood, maxwell.
Speaker 2:But you've been, but this is the at Mr Red Rims podcast.
Speaker 1:But you've been, but you've been so humble.
Speaker 2:No, hold on, Y'all didn't let me see it this is wrong with and so and so they, we appreciate you letting us breathe. I appreciate you. I appreciate you, though I mean it's, it's such an honor that you, that you just the keys there, yeah, I, you know, just I mean low key me being on your podcast right now, bro, I got literally had to. You know, I mean it is what it is. I just I'm just so honored that you visit. Thank you, it's a momentous occasion.
Speaker 3:I like to invite Joe. Rogan as I watch them.
Speaker 2:Boy man and as the man fucking sit there and brought it through with attention hey man, I didn't like what you said. I said because I said it now.
Speaker 1:I'm just like bro I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2:A conversation. Buddy would have a conversation with you about what you said and you're not really conversation right now, but it's like no, but as I was saying before I was so rudely interrupted. You were okay, I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 1:I did no. But also on some real G type shit, I did abruptly and become a little bit humble Don't say right now, sirs. I did become humble a little bit to an extent, while still talking my, my trash and talking my shit. But the humbleness that I gained throughout these years with Savage Combat Sports, I got humble to the point that it was hurting what's happening.
Speaker 2:Oh, watch out.
Speaker 1:Oh, pardon me, I'm sorry, but anyways.
Speaker 2:Saps season.
Speaker 4:I didn't say I'm gonna fucking say it anyways.
Speaker 2:He said some fucked up shit and then be like yo, you can't say that Saps season, I'm like your dog, See, look this is you two guys. Right now I'm like hey, bro, you can't say that. But that's fucking, that's Saps season.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck. Is this a savage Sunday kind of buddy missing a leg? You can't say that shit man, Fuck that Saps season.
Speaker 2:I'm like your dog. Say what you're talking. I'm like bro.
Speaker 1:Uh, man, y'all are terrible and y'all got the nerves.
Speaker 4:I mean.
Speaker 1:But anyways, I got humble to the, the point in fact that the never.
Speaker 2:I didn't get a humble. I did get humble Watch. You was just quiet, bro. How the fuck are you gonna say you humble when you just quiet? You say you're saying shit. You, you're not humble, my nigga, you was it. You was working out in the gym. You was actually working. You didn't have time to get on the fucking mic or get on Facebook and talk shit.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm back now. Oh, now, now that you're back, so you wasn't humble, you was just quiet.
Speaker 2:You were busy. You said you was busy, now you guys, don't got damn show. Yeah, now you got your own show, look at your boy now, but anyways, why?
Speaker 4:y'all keep interrupting me, I got, he was humble.
Speaker 2:I was busy bro.
Speaker 1:Anyways, I'm gonna use their term Use busy, Busy. There you go, whatever you had time, so now you got time, I got time to date Like your boy.
Speaker 3:Oh my.
Speaker 1:KC Conker and type shit. That's some white people type shit. Don't cancel me, please, but anyways.
Speaker 2:No, you got your mother shit to get.
Speaker 4:I ain't saying it bro.
Speaker 2:Good, but anyways.
Speaker 1:I was on camera busy, but still humble to the fact of the matter. That the humbleness in the business. I'm gonna get your photo On your pictures. Mind your business, bitch oh.
Speaker 2:Check, you see your shirt.
Speaker 1:No, sir, what anyway yeah?
Speaker 2:I should. I know you right there, I could see you line, fuck right. You see these little captains and use the workout shirts on pictures. They be fire, I know they be fire.
Speaker 1:You know, capture. I do have a mind of my own, sirs, thank you. Thank you for trying to downplay me on the mr Rev Ram's podcast.
Speaker 2:He and I should. I'm gonna give you a compliment.
Speaker 3:Thank you for the camera, sir I know you would expect to have us on your podcast and one of us just be like bow down to the yeah fucking Brian.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was. Yes, sir, mr Rims Hello mr Red rim sir. I'm not calling. You know, mr Red rim, listen. Wow bro. I said wow, pause, don't. The whole red rims is balls bro.
Speaker 3:Whatever I remember when you got them glasses, who was you before them?
Speaker 1:Hmm, I was myself. I told y'all in the beginning that I will not have a fight name until I got the respect or whatever was earned and I finally got one so.
Speaker 2:So. So watch your mouth. Thank you, brian. The Martian tatted up man that was.
Speaker 1:I was still ratchet back.
Speaker 3:He be talking so much shit since he got these glasses dude it's like when you get shoes. I got like these glasses, he suddenly became Hollywood.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know it is with this, but anyways.
Speaker 3:Now I watched the birth of that shit, because they kept talking about your red rim glasses while we were well, we were thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 1:So yeah but, anyways, we can read your phone. All of that, you know I was busy and humble to the point that it hurt my fight game a little bit because I wasn't as as cocky and myself as I was before and I made a vow to not to you guys and you know outside people that you know I'm coming back and I said at the beginning of the year I'm back, bitches, I'm back on my, on my bullshit speaking of you will hear my mouth a little bit, but not as much when it comes to this business stuff.
Speaker 1:I will. I'm saying this in front of you guys, right?
Speaker 3:now Drake.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:No, I will, you know. You know, tone it down when it comes to this business stuff, because you know, after you know, we in the chat Right we know we were reading there. Okay, I hear you, but you know, oh, so you're tired. Go ahead and say Sam retired say I'm retired on the mic. Okay, you chillin Okay okay.
Speaker 4:I hear you, but like I, said I will be.
Speaker 3:I'll mention it here now that early next year I will be taking my brother I don't know about Casey.
Speaker 2:Y'all better fucking learn he's the fucking one of the top 155. No, fuck that. Not one of the top 55 are in this motherfucker on the east coast.
Speaker 1:On the east coast.
Speaker 3:God damn y'all hear that shit.
Speaker 2:Say it one more time.
Speaker 1:I don't think I said for people in the back of my brother say it play that shit back.
Speaker 2:God damn it. I don't want to vote. That you know, you know.
Speaker 3:Rankings only last for so long, though, so yeah, I mean Answer me in ineligible for rankings currently. Really Me too, since I haven't fought in a million so long 2019 bro, 2019 was my last wait, it's been a minute damn, you got old too man and I hope people think that I just been sitting around eating fucking Cheetos. I know I got you shit.
Speaker 1:You've been sitting around getting them, them gray ass fucking hairs in your beard. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3:I haven't, haven't, you know, two kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like I'm just saying y'all want to roast me. So I got the roast back.
Speaker 2:No, well, you kind of open the oven for you.
Speaker 1:What, no, I'll put in there was book I'll probably just we just get no To.
Speaker 2:I mean like well, y'all this I know greats is coming for me. I, you know I'll be 40. What next year? No, they don't come in. You ain't got. You ain't got none yet, not yet. I'm waiting, I'm waiting.
Speaker 3:I'm obviously when they come in.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna just let him roll. I'm gonna just let him roll in.
Speaker 3:I ain't gonna make people bro. We ate like fucking pranks yeah he's an avocados bro.
Speaker 2:He said I'm a homie, so you didn't have to do it like that. There's one guy that we are that we both know and I don't want to say because I'm gonna feel like the fight, I'm gonna fuck it bro, I'm just saying when he get 30.
Speaker 1:Whoo oh man that ain't right I ain't say his name, brother, he's talking about that ain't right. If you say his name, I'm not gonna say his name because I'm gonna fucking.
Speaker 2:He like he's show up, he's show up.
Speaker 1:Oh, he'll pull up on you Huh.
Speaker 2:Fuck, hey, what's his random.
Speaker 1:I mean it is at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:I wish we could really get into some like the stories we have about the fight. Why can't we?
Speaker 3:we can we we can, we can. Let's go back to that whole business thing. Yeah, we can.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, like I was saying, you know, I will Calm Myself down for the business.
Speaker 2:I don't, bro, bust him over there.
Speaker 3:I was like yo, let me get that shit back Yo.
Speaker 1:Ladies and gentlemen, we have lost Casey for a second. He has lost this shit. He had to walk away for a second.
Speaker 3:I completely forgot. I went to his work. I told him I needed that back.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:To the mic. I mean you got to say his name, but you could explain the situation. Yeah, there's gonna be like he might hit you in the dms. He had to call me out like that.
Speaker 2:I know if you didn't see anything, brother, like what you talking about and then, and then.
Speaker 1:If we get special over there, keep thinking about it. He's dead right now.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you gotta do it, you know, sometimes you gotta you know it's visible, it's visible or you can do like I did a dude.
Speaker 1:I went and met him at beat ups, and With a shirt at that, and when he got out of the car to meet me, there were five dudes with him. I took his money and kept his shirt and said fuck that, this looks suspect. I'm walking away. You're gonna have to meet me at a different type of time, brother.
Speaker 3:We gotta delete the whole goddamn.
Speaker 2:What just happened? No, but but like like an hour later, I met him and gave him a shirt. I was like wait, I met him an hour later and gave him the shirt.
Speaker 1:Man, this shit, like it just weirded me out because the type of time I was on at that point in time it was weird and at that point in time type of time I was gonna catch him in a body at that point in time, and I swear I thought I told you all that, but I guess this is y'all's first time hearing it. No, no, unless y'all forgot about it.
Speaker 2:I took his money and his shirt. I think he needs somebody.
Speaker 1:But I gave it back to him. I gave him his shirt. An hour later it was just, the situation wasn't right with me and I was literally gonna catch a body because I like, how do you get out of a car with other dudes just to get a T-shirt? I didn't feel right. So he handed me the money and the dudes were just. They didn't surround me, but it was just like damn why these dudes get out of the car like this.
Speaker 3:It was that beat up, though Was it a bunch of white dudes?
Speaker 1:No, was it a bunch of? It was a mixture of racist serve.
Speaker 2:Was it a bunch of black dudes here?
Speaker 3:No, it wasn't all black dudes it was a bunch of white dudes I probably wouldn't have got out of the car here.
Speaker 1:No, fuck that. Why'd you say that?
Speaker 2:Fuck that I mean, look, look, I don't give a a bunch of people, period, I'm not gonna. I'm like, oh, y'all can't fit this one shirt.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the fuck y'all doing, I'm just gonna sit out the situation you know, sometimes when you get, get somewhere and the vibes or the energies don't feel right, I didn't feel right.
Speaker 1:And I was on the type of time of shit I might catch a body out here today. Let me just take his money. Hey look, man, hit me up later, in a little bit I'll give you your shirt Not just walked away. He wasn't mad. I guess he understood, because he didn't talk shit about it and the dudes that were with him were like. They kind of were like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:I mean you know.
Speaker 1:I told him man, like that looks suspect as fuck to me and you should know the type of person I am from social media that I'm gonna call you out on your bullshit or I'm gonna say something right here in front of your face and, to be quite honest, I was gonna catch a body if one of them moved the wrong way, to be quite honest. And he understood and everything was cool over a shirt, Like I guess, I don't know, some people roll like that and I just wasn't feeling it. So you know, like I said, I met him an hour later, I gave him the shirt and I told him that shit was weird as fuck and you know, no harm, no foul, but if I would have took one of his buddies out, sorry.
Speaker 2:Also tell him. I see something. Hey y'all people, if y'all see me out in public, please don't run up on me Like just randomly, like if I'm buying fucking drawers, please give me some space, though, like you know how many fucking people I mean.
Speaker 3:They're not granted they want to talk to me? You're not on my frizz list, don't talk to me. Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:It's called recognition. Sir, I had to learn that too. It happens to me all the time.
Speaker 2:Well, it's people that sometimes people that I know, but a lot of times when I'm out in public I ain't really expecting to be talking to people.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, antoine, or sometimes they think you're me.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, they say my whole name.
Speaker 1:Sometimes they don't. Sometimes they think you're me and sometimes people think I'm you. Well, see, there you go, I mean that's cool, and we don't even look alike. Is it because we got beards?
Speaker 2:Blackened beard. Yeah, I think every guy do a beard looks the same.
Speaker 3:I mean, Antoine got a full beard. People always look like you got a horseshoe missing out the middle of the road You're shit like it's struggling. Look out of here, bud. This is like a cat.
Speaker 2:You're beard looks like you got a cigarette voice, bruh, fuck out of here You're shit. You look like it needs to be moisturized, so, man.
Speaker 1:Casey, look, hold on, bump that. I'm going to go ahead and say it. Savage season, casey. You can't be talking junk with all the gray in your beard.
Speaker 2:Your gray macho shirt. That's wisdom.
Speaker 1:Antoine, you shut up what you're, what you're, what you're busted up lips today and then realized you had busted up lips.
Speaker 2:I got hit because I was working motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Nah, you just being soft, you sitting there.
Speaker 2:Let me tell this motherfucker about his whole goddamn rounds. He sat there and talked the whole goddamn rounds?
Speaker 1:I sure did.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting there like I told the person he's working with. I was like if you punch him in the mouth, he can't talk. So maybe you should punch him in the mouth more.
Speaker 4:Well, did I get punched in the mouth more.
Speaker 2:I don't think you stop talking.
Speaker 1:No, but you know I'm on my mode right now. If you can see this picture right now, you know I'm fighting September 29th. I'm just waiting on to get my opponent.
Speaker 2:I've been through several opponents at this point and so we're waiting and they don't have a numerous supply of people that want to get hit in the face for enough.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's several opponents out there, but you got to you got to realize.
Speaker 2:Nobody's rushing to do that.
Speaker 1:We are in the state of Virginia and the state of Virginia is some of the hardest people to work with, and now that the state of Virginia has partnered with the Maryland Commission, it's that much more harder. Y'all guys didn't know that, but yeah, we're partnered with Maryland Commission now and if you know the Maryland Commission, I'm sorry to say it, but their assholes like they waited till fight day to call me to tell me that my federal ID was approved. That shit don't even make sense. It doesn't A lot of people quit.
Speaker 3:So the DPOR for Virginia and Maryland is the same DPOR. Yes, as of right now they're technically the same.
Speaker 1:DPOR, because when Tracy died and somebody else died in the office rest in peace. To miss Tracy Dave Holland decided he would retire. Shout out to Dave that they were who they were. But they were still strict and did what they had to do as a commission. But once they quit, the commission just went like wow, they had several people take the head job and those people aren't in office anymore. So to clear things up, they had to get some help. So they partnered with Maryland because, as some people may know that may listen to this podcast, one of the best referees in the world took over the state of Virginia and now he's gone because he figured out it was a bunch of nonsense. So them crossing over with Maryland is a thing now. So a lot of stuff getting approved and not getting approved.
Speaker 3:Get Maryland as the last. Yeah, there is you can't have another state.
Speaker 1:A lot of states doing like.
Speaker 3:Stuff like that Doesn't make any sense to me Like uh, we had different rules than Maryland.
Speaker 2:So, did the.
Speaker 3:Emmy rules change here.
Speaker 2:Yes, several, there's no elbows and there's no elbows and knees to the head. Yeah, no, yes.
Speaker 1:Since when? Since uh, last July, I think. They changed everything in July.
Speaker 2:July, June of July.
Speaker 1:June, of July.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, probably reading, last event that we had.
Speaker 3:Ain't no point in me going back to doing amateur then. Yeah, I was with the pro, I mean.
Speaker 1:That's stupid.
Speaker 3:I've been. I've been fighting basically pro rules this whole time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and going back to an amateur and not being able to do the shit you were allowed to do before is trash.
Speaker 2:Say man, you're not a pro.
Speaker 1:I mean that's up to you though, man, don't go to your ready, as I tell people these days, I mean it doesn't make any sense, Like I can't. I mean, you have nothing else to prove All the tools at your disposal.
Speaker 3:I mean, I got nothing else to prove on amateur level Facts.
Speaker 1:So you might as well come to the other side and you know that's not any good man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's not bad.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, right now in Virginia, Maryland or cause Montana and Kansas does that too, Because their their head person is the same person for Montana and that's why yeah, Because out on the West Coast you know they fought, that the fights aren't like big out there for some reason, but they have a U of C fights out there. Like it's weird that when you go to the West Coast they have underground fights instead of sanctioned fights because some states on the West Coast don't sanction fighting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just a soccer fight.
Speaker 1:I mean, we have Smoker, yeah they have a lot of smoker events and sometimes it's out there, you know, just to throw out some knowledge in the gym, some of those events. If you go to the West Coast and they say it's a professional fight, sometimes it's counted on your record as an exhibition so it doesn't count for shit. Just to let some of you, some of you guys know it could because off, oh fuck it. I'm just going to say it. I fought a guy who fought a pro fight one weekend, then fought an amateur fight the next weekend and I had concerns about it and I was like this guy fought pro and then he fought an amateur fight. How does that work? But you know, come to find out. You know that's how some states do it on the West Coast, because some of those states don't have commissions, which is Wow, and they call Virginia grimy as hell. They call us the Wild West on the East.
Speaker 3:Coast because they let amateurs have full rules.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you go to any state outside of us, like Tennessee, North Carolina, they don't do that. And Maryland, they're wearing headguards headgear and shin guards in Pennsylvania too, and even in Florida, I'm like damn dude.
Speaker 3:I watched the head guy from South Carolina getting like super, super irritated at the last bites. I was cornering at. The Brands event, the one down there.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Brandon, shout out to the homie Brandon, and we're not getting together.
Speaker 3:The commission, like the local commission that was there in the state commission, those two separate entities. Yeah, they just kept buttoning heads. They were just like you know, what should we be doing? This, this rules meeting and everything else, and they kept delaying it, delaying it, delaying it. Fuck it was.
Speaker 2:It was rough, so I watched them kind of go back and forth and it's a fucking nightmare. I can only imagine being a promoter having to deal with the fucking different sanctioning bodies and shit. They got the different rule changes and shit yeah this is wild. Different states, yeah, um, then it then like. It doesn't like. How do you case it?
Speaker 3:You want to like 38? I'll be 38 this year.
Speaker 1:So then, like oh, so you're the oldest man in the room right now. Oh, that's fucking you.
Speaker 2:I was the oldest man on my last no, that's pro fighter. Then last profile, I was the oldest person Like literally that when they showed my age on that. I've seen 38. I go yep, it's about time, it's about time. But I got all in the feelings when they said no, no, no, no, I was on it.
Speaker 3:But I'm not another number because I mean, I don't, I don't feel like I'm seeing that.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, and I still feel good, not so like I'm seeing that. So it changes to the older you get, it's like the more things they tack on. Yes, I think I had to do like a fucking, a neurosurgeon, a neural test or whatever.
Speaker 1:The world test. You had to get in the world test. Go Am I too.
Speaker 2:No, no, yeah, Do that. Let me tell you about this. So to get a your, to get a neural test or even see a neurosurgeon is fucking impossible, right, unless you schedule like months in advance for someone on the reason that a neural neural surgeon was like. I know it was like unable to do it. I had to pay 350 bucks off rep to have some doctor in North Carolina. I mean, he was legit.
Speaker 1:But in your consultation, no, he did it. Evaluation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did. Well, he did the test because I sat at the Tim Lloyd. Tim Lloyd set that up. Yes, he got it. You know, he got it done. 350 dog. My last fight, bro man, it was crazy. All these people that think like these like going pro. Let me tell you guys about going pro. You're not going to make money off that and, honestly, I could have used what we got. We got five minutes, gentlemen. Oh, I did this real quick.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I'll say this tonight Cut off the podcast, guys. It's about to take us out. I must. You, mother. I bought a star cry.
Speaker 2:I'll say so honestly. I'll tell you guys real quick, anybody that's wanting to go pro real quick, um, have your money in order, have your game plan in order, use like, use the people like, literally use your platform to get money. Yes, use your resources.
Speaker 1:Yeah, use your resources and promote yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because boy does Four minutes nigga. So me being stupid and prideful, I was like man, fuck that, I can do this on my own. I don't want to ask for money. Fuck that Next time, motherfuckers, I need some help. So I had to find my PS five bro.
Speaker 2:I was like, just so I can, just so I can do the neurosurgery, make the money. Then I had the like the money that I made back from the fight. I had to buy the. I felt so bad because I wanted to pay. I wanted to pay my homies man, I wanted to pay John, I want to pay Trevor for like giving their time and I couldn't do that shit.
Speaker 1:That's understandable.
Speaker 2:So I had to give my PS five.
Speaker 3:Fuck that They'd be like, but you can't, I mean. I mean you get like what most people get like you know for to fight for the win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:As a day man. You're lucky, I can't.
Speaker 3:I can't say that I went through that when is all there, you know, to that's, that's if you end up like towards the main part and if you're, if you're the hometown guy, you're going to make your money.
Speaker 2:You're not like yeah. I wasn't gonna make shit, I see. I see, when my homey made to do that for shut up the Cali, I was being noticed. I'm on parking watching. But I happened to look. I'm like God, you made that much because they had like the prices.
Speaker 3:It's a set of the key to sales to all of the stuff that they get and everything.
Speaker 1:It'd be like that man. But you know, I never had to go through that when I first started, but midways through I did get put in that situation. They're the type when I got went to we were almost in DC and I fought and the promoter I would say their name, but you know they don't get get no clout on the Mr Red Rims podcast. They tried to short me my whole fight first, after Antoine Curtis almost got a shot in the drive through the day before.
Speaker 1:That was before before you ain't heard that story. We're going to talk about that off camera because we got three minutes left.
Speaker 1:They cut your back but gentlemen, I want to thank y'all for coming on today. You know, and you know, aaron, some airing some of our stuff out and talking about, you know, the Savage Combat Sports business. We will return this fall. We're going to all get our shit together and be on the correct page. So when we come, we coming in hot, we coming in full force and pause. Why are you about to laugh, sir?
Speaker 2:Wow, and bro, come in and roll. I'm like yeah, yeah, oh, hollywood humble. Yeah. But, I'm going to say Hollywood Maxwell, say it. Say it one time, I would humble.
Speaker 1:But anyways, as we wrap it up, you know I appreciate you guys are coming on and you know, finally having this conversation we were actually supposed to do this last weekend, but I'm tired, bro, my focus has shit to do and everybody's schedules didn't align. But you know, thank you for coming on. This is the Mr Red Rims podcast and shout out to the my guest, antoine, from the few regrets podcast.
Speaker 3:He's all 60 minutes. All right, let's wrap this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not going to use it. He tried to get his money's worth. You're going to get to play.
Speaker 3:Watch. That's just gonna get to like 58.
Speaker 2:What are you talking about? Not, she's gonna fuck off, fucking this fear.
Speaker 1:OK, it's cool, but as we're closing out, I like the, you know. Thank everybody for tuning in. My last episode was wonderful. Thank you guys. Keep tuning in, following, like and share and subscribe. Follow me at the Mr Red Rims on YouTube and at Mr Red Rims on Spotify. We're also available on other things and I put that in the description. But once again, ladies and gentlemen, over out peace, grease, chicken grease, all that cool shit, peace, peace.