Welcome back to the returning Nell Bauduin!
Join us in this episode of the Breaking Point Podcast UK as we welcome back the insightful Nell Bauduin. She discusses how her journey over the past eighteen months, filled with travels to Thailand, Bali, and Colombia, has been truly transformative, and she gives us a glimpse into her ongoing six-month breathwork facilitator training.
We discuss the crucial practice of inner child healing and its powerful impact on our well-being. Through guided meditations and breathwork, we've both found ways to release emotional heaviness and foster a sense of safety.
Physical exercise isn't just about muscles and endurance—it's a holistic tool for mental and emotional wellness. Drawing from the wisdom of ex-Navy SEAL Jocko Willink, we talk about the mental fortitude gained through rigorous physical exertion. We also explore the importance of patience in manifestation, likening it to planting seeds that require time and care to grow!
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Welcome back to the returning Nell Bauduin!
Join us in this episode of the Breaking Point Podcast UK as we welcome back the insightful Nell Bauduin. She discusses how her journey over the past eighteen months, filled with travels to Thailand, Bali, and Colombia, has been truly transformative, and she gives us a glimpse into her ongoing six-month breathwork facilitator training.
We discuss the crucial practice of inner child healing and its powerful impact on our well-being. Through guided meditations and breathwork, we've both found ways to release emotional heaviness and foster a sense of safety.
Physical exercise isn't just about muscles and endurance—it's a holistic tool for mental and emotional wellness. Drawing from the wisdom of ex-Navy SEAL Jocko Willink, we talk about the mental fortitude gained through rigorous physical exertion. We also explore the importance of patience in manifestation, likening it to planting seeds that require time and care to grow!
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Thank you for listening, be sure to follow and leave a review if you enjoyed the episode!
And come back for more insightful wisdom and captivating stories!
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Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Breaking Point Podcast UK. Oh, you can't interrupt me with the intro.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you know what it is, but I did ayahuasca Most of the time. You can see that people, when people are comfortable, they also don't feel well.
Speaker 1:That is so true. Think about something, set your attention and then let it go. I love it. Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Breaking Point Podcast UK. Today, we are here with Nell Baldwin. Is that right? I should know Baldwin Baldwin. It's not. That is it, though? That's just that's not true, and we're going to have a chat about all sorts of different things. Today, we're going to have a chat about aliens and robots.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So, nell, what's your opinion on aliens?
Speaker 2:They exist.
Speaker 1:You think they exist? Why do you think they exist?
Speaker 2:Because I think that we don't know very much about reality that we are living in.
Speaker 1:Do you think they are on the planet at the moment?
Speaker 2:I really think that we are a part of the aliens. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Like we very. It's very difficult to explain, but I think we are all one.
Speaker 1:We are all one, like musketeers and stuff.
Speaker 2:No, we are all one energy and okay, how do aliens come into that? Yeah, because I think you, uh, the, you humans. People are calling it alien, but because they are, they are weird for us, because we are living in a human experience, know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we are all the same, but we are just not the same as they are now, as they remain being, and we are just. We also are aliens being and we are just, we also are aliens. So we are aliens, but we are having a human experience right now.
Speaker 1:So you're saying that we're because we all live in the same universe. We're all part of the same entity yeah in some ways, nice, nice, nice. Okay, that's an interesting idea. So what's your opinion on robots?
Speaker 2:I don't like robots Like.
Speaker 1:Transformers and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't like robots.
Speaker 1:You don't like robots. It's a great film.
Speaker 2:I've never seen it, I think.
Speaker 1:Poor you Third world country in Belgium, shocking, okay. So what do you like then?
Speaker 2:I like the sun, but I'm not at the best place in the world. If I like a lot of sun, I'm in Belgium.
Speaker 1:Does it get hot in Belgium?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Does it get hot in Belgium in the summer?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like for four days, and then it's cold again, and then it's hot again and then it's cold again. So it never. It's not steady, it's just.
Speaker 1:Inconsistent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, very, it depends.
Speaker 1:It depends. Okay, so let's. You can't count on the weather. Yeah, no, I get you, I get you. So what have you been up to now? What have things? How has your life changed since we last spoke? Got a sort of boyfriend slash, girlfriend slash any friend yet Married.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not married, I am a boyfriend. My life changed very, very much, so I went through a lot the past one and a half years.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, I had a marriage and then I divorced and I was no, it didn't happen okay no, but I traveled a lot, um, I did a lot of course, uh, courses, um, and I've learned a lot also in my private life. So I am really someone else. If you compare it to the time. Well, yeah, I changed a lot. I'm not trying to do that to a person, I'm sorry. What? What did you say?
Speaker 1:I said marriage will do that to a person. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:That's true, but I'm not married, or I to a person. Yeah, of course that's true, but I'm not married or I wasn't married. No, I just did some courses.
Speaker 1:So where did you travel to and what courses did you do?
Speaker 2:So I traveled to. Last year I traveled to Thailand, to Bali. This year I went to Thailand, to Bali, um. This year I I went to um, colombia. So I did a lot of uh yeah, I. I traveled far away from Belgium, um, and I just found myself there. But, like, it was very scary in the beginning. If you, yeah, if you find yourself at first it's very scary because you, it's oh, it's so confusing and so confronting to meet yourself in another level. But also, I did a lot of, yeah, courses, but I did one course in in Bali and I started a course as a bread work facilitator and I'm in that one now. So it's for six months that I'm doing this course, but it just opens your eyes so much. It's again something that you, it's very confronting because through the Breadwork sessions you can find things that you didn't even know about yourself.
Speaker 1:So you can find things that happened to you and you didn't even know, like what? Give me an example. What did you learn about yourself? What is it that you have to achieve in order to reach that level of?
Speaker 2:Well, I spoke a lot to my inner child the last time we had a, the last time we had a conversation about the inner child, but I really worked a lot with my inner child's best humans and, yeah, it's very confronting and very heavy sometimes, um, so you can so you don't control what is what's happening in the, in the breathwork sessions um, but for me it was like I was talking to her and and and holding her and comforting her, um, and yeah, it just made me feel that I I released some of the heaviness yeah, yeah I, yeah, so I have a better connection with my inner child now and I think that, yeah, I know that she feels more safe now and that I can handle it for myself and, like I can handle her, yeah, it does a lot.
Speaker 2:If you are um strongly giving your inner child attention, it's it's very important to do that, because it all starts there, in my opinion how do you reach communication with your inner child, or at least how do you think you do and how did you do it?
Speaker 2:uh, you can do it through a guided meditation, um, or you, you can just um. For example, you can also record your own voice and just guide, do a guide meditation, guided meditation for yourself, and then you can just do a meditation and and put on the, the, I don't know the, the record, the recording.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the recording and that, and, and just sit with yourself, listen to your own voice, and you will just start to imagine it, to imagine, um, this journey, and it will just take you there. And then you, yeah, you will see things, you will feel things and you will eventually start crying. So, to release all of the energy that is stuck. So you can do a lot of things. You also can just do a breathwork session and it then stuff that you have to see or that you have to go through will come up. You don't have to force anything, it will just come up.
Speaker 1:Yes, so it's sort of creating an environment where you can delve deeper into the unconscious and yeah, that's also what I'm doing now. Nice, how are you doing that?
Speaker 2:With my clients, I mean.
Speaker 1:Oh, with your clients I mean all your clients. Why, yeah, tell me about them, tell me about their personal. What?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, no, what are you saying?
Speaker 1:what are you saying? Yeah, tell what. What are you talking to with your clients about?
Speaker 2:no, I'm just creating a uh, a six-month course, also, um, for my clients, and I just put um everything that I learned the past five years, I guess since 2019. I'm in this journey, but the last one and a half year is very heavy, but I just put everything that I learned and everything that I know, everything that happened to me, I'm putting it into this course and I'm offering it with coaching, um, and also there are are also, um, yeah, like breathwork sessions into the course, um, like guided meditations also into the course. So, um, yeah, everything that I've learned is in the course.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's good. And when you say the last one and a half years have been sort of pivotal and life-changing, is that because of the traveling or have there been other things that have gone on?
Speaker 2:It's because of a lot of stuff. It's indeed because of the traveling, it's because of um, I, the courses I did, um, and because of my private life also, a lot of, a lot changed marriage and divorce is always a hard thing.
Speaker 1:Uh, I'm just gonna keep bringing that up throughout the podcast because it's kind of like a it's going to be an anchor now yeah, okay, that's fine okay, okay yeah, why are you always laughing with my speaking, with my talking? I don't know, it's just how I thought it makes you laugh. So I keep doing, keep doing it okay so uh how's your mental health been um?
Speaker 2:if you compare it to the past five years, it's it's very good right now um no, that's good yeah, but I had a downfall, I don't know. The year 2023 was very hard for me and since 2024 started, it began to go upwards, so the year 2023 was very, very difficult for me. I can say that my mental health was not that great, but it was still better than the past, my past life you know, yeah, yeah, the past years, yeah, so I don't complain.
Speaker 2:It was very hard, but I keep growing. And yeah, you can only learn things if it's if it's. No, that's not true. You can also learn things if it's not hard. But the greatest transformation comes from the, the most confronting things, I believe I like that.
Speaker 1:That will be the title. I think the greatest transformation comes from the most confronting things. So why do you think? What's different about this year, then? What have you changed Internally and externally?
Speaker 2:one thing that I changed was just, I was always fighting. I was always fighting against myself, but I was thinking like then that I did it for myself, but I was actually fighting against myself. I was constantly searching for solutions and things that I could do better. And how can I do this better? How can I think better about this? I don't know. It was a lot, and the the most, um, the the best thing that changed for me has that I've been. I have been able to let go of this, just be Be of what.
Speaker 2:The fighting and the control, okay, the searching to become better. You know, I just accepted that I'm. And it's very difficult to understand it if you didn't go through it, because before I made this decision of letting go, I was also constantly thinking I should let go, I should let go, but I didn't really let go because I was controlling that I had to let go, you know yes, yes, yeah, I was just speaking to someone yeah carry on, carry on no, I don't, I can't remember what I wanted to say.
Speaker 1:You tell, you tell what you have to say, okay, yeah, I was just speaking to someone and they were talking.
Speaker 1:He's a health coach and he was talking about how he gets clients who often do this like yo-yo dieting or yo-yo food consumption, where one part of them, the incredibly judgmental and rigid part of their brain, takes control and then they flip-flop to the part of their brain that is a bit more chaotic and carefree and is like who cares, do what you want? Uh, apathetic. And it's about balancing those two aspects and, and as you what you were just sort of speaking to implied, for me it sounded like you were sort of implying how you had this like judgmental voice in your head that was saying you need to do this, you need to do that, and it was a grappling between that and maybe another aspect of your psyche and and that's what causes a lot of mental angst, but you've been able to sort of let that go and move on and understand that actually the fighting was part of, was possibly the main part of the problem. Yes, I like that so what?
Speaker 2:how I see it now is that you are like you have your inner child and you have your grown mind, and we are constantly battling between those two. So I I believe that you are always, if you have two sides of the story, so so like you were saying, um, like they want one, uh, one um side just is chaotic and is just like, oh, all over the place. I believe that that is the, the child minds, or the inner child that is just has no clue what to do. And then you have the adult mind that is angry at the inner child. So if the adult mind can have empathy for the inner child mind, then the inner child mind becomes also more quiet.
Speaker 1:Very true, very good, and and that is oh, you're not, you're not making any sound no, but I wasn't. I wasn't saying anything okay, I thought your, your mouth moved, but no words came out. That's fine then. So where were we? Oh yeah, so that's the point you've reached, and you've reached that through. How do you think you've come to that conclusion? How have you managed to step back and observe that battle playing itself out? And then, is it through the breath work? Would you put that down to the primary reason?
Speaker 2:yes, but also because of the courses that I did. I just picked a lot of small things from every course and I also did a guided meditation. The guided meditation also has helped me a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1:Good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it made a lot of things clear. It's just one gigantic thing of information that I had from different places that I put together and I was yeah, this is what I made up, made out of it.
Speaker 1:So yeah, no, I love that. That's that's what we should all do in life. We have to explore different things and then hand pick the ones that are relevant to us and to build our own sort of collage of light. I suppose that's that's all we can do, because we can be so different. How has this newfound knowledge influenced your coaching with your clients?
Speaker 2:Yeah, to me, everything that my clients are telling me right now is just also clearer for me. I can understand better what the problem is and I can see everything now from within a deeper level level. You know, um, I can see now that everything comes from the, from not always the inner child, because sometimes we, we, we go through things that that um, impact us yeah, but didn't. But what we're?
Speaker 2:we're in our childhood time, or or yeah, adulthood yeah yeah, but most of the time it comes from the, from the inner child, and it comes from the inner child that is very, very, very loud because it never had the attention that it needed. You know, and I I will always go back to that, and if I can't find anything there, then I will search further into their lives. So it made my coaching easier. It made it easier to understand what. Yeah, yeah, it made it easier for me to understand and to work with my clients.
Speaker 1:What do you think the inner child? Where do you think the inner child lives? Where do you think the other inner child lives? Do you think it lives in our brain? Do you think it lives as an energy force field around us? Because you're kind of talking about the subconscious, or at least you're talking about aspect of the sub, sort of, uh, a segment of the subconscious, but where do you think the inner child lives? How does it end up having so much control over us?
Speaker 2:I think the inner child lives. How does it end up having so much control over us? I think, the inner child is mostly living in our body. Yeah, because if a child Whereabouts, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Whereabouts in our body.
Speaker 2:Everywhere.
Speaker 1:Everywhere, yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the inner child is just, but also it also is in our head. Because what?
Speaker 2:nothing it's also in our head, because we experience anxiety mostly in our head. We make it most of the time by ourselves, but I believe that the inner child always feels a lot in the body, because if a child wants something, it's so obvious through how they act. They either are screaming, crying, um, I don't know. You can see it just in their body that they are angry and and the way how they yag and they are loud and they are like all over the place, but it's with their body. So I believe that the inner child is energetic, indeed in the body most of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I write that, yeah, because, especially incredibly young children, they don't have the ability to speak, but they have the ability to move and to feel from day one. So that is ultimately the main form of communication, as we already know, and it's also the main form of expression, is the true form of expression. So if anyone says how do you tell, how can you tell what people truly think, then you watch their actions. You don't watch their words, because as much as words can be incredibly powerful powerful they are fundamentally meaningless in a lot of ways, whereas actions are not. So always judge people primarily on their actions. I mean, there's always exceptions, like sometimes people will say something that they what would they do? Sometimes people would do something that they don't mean or that is not a true representation of the way they see themselves or the way that they don't mean, or that is not a true representation of the way they see themselves or the way that they want to act. That's true, but most of the time, actions are harder to falsify than words.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sorry.
Speaker 2:No, that's fine, I'm speaking a lot, so you can tell. No, that's fine, you can speaking a lot so you can tell no, that's fine. You can tell the people what you're thinking. Now. What's this?
Speaker 1:It's a little fidget spinner. It's a Thor fidget spinner.
Speaker 2:Fun.
Speaker 1:Thor, thor Hammer.
Speaker 2:It's funny. Right, right, it's not funny, no right what it's just not funny yeah, it's nice to do oh, it's fun yes, it's fun.
Speaker 1:It's fun to do funny is ha ha ha. I know I'm funny. I know no, no, no where it's fun is like, how would you describe fun? It's enjoyable, I'm also fun, but uh, uh, right, let's look at the, let's look at the. What do we have to look at the questions? Okay, yeah, so why have you stepped away from social media in recent months?
Speaker 2:um, because if it's quiet enough, you can hear yourself very loud. We distract ourselves constantly.
Speaker 1:True that.
Speaker 2:That's the main reason why I went off for a week.
Speaker 1:And what do you hear? When it's quiet enough, what can you hear?
Speaker 2:what? What do you hear when it's quiet enough? What can you hear? So this was that. That was. This was a time that I really um, learn, learn about my inner child. It's not that like long time ago that I had a very gigantic switch into my life with the inner child. It was that time. So I'm very, very, very glad that I did it and.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you've seen my story on Instagram. I also told that I had a. I didn't have a breakdown, but I really went through very big emotions. So I had one evening that I was just like I'm just going to let all of it out. I was crying, I was screaming, I was punching my pillow, I was, I was sad, anxious at one time in the same moment, and I just let it be. And that was a moment for me that I was thinking like again, it's enough of controlling myself and fighting against my own emotions and fighting against myself, for I was pushing too hard to grow and I just let it go. And this was in that. I think it was the same week that I wasn't on Instagram, so it was very close on when I went out. So, yeah, it was a lot of things happened in one month yes, I can imagine that's very common in modern marriages nowadays.
Speaker 1:So what I would? So, yeah, I mean I am interested in. I understand what you mean when you say you were fighting against something. I do think the best way of articulating it is you were fighting against that judgmental part of you that wants to dictate and control and makes you feel bad every time you fail. That voice, that daemon, so to speak. I guess a lot of the time can be incredibly helpful and is actually very necessary, both socially and personally, but some people have a voice that's incredibly louder than others and some people can't wield or what would you say manage the voice as well as other people and therefore they had they, they run into issues, and I think that release that you had would have been the release of the emotions that that voice was trying to squash and not letting you to feel yeah, but it also comes back to my um, my adult mind and my inner child, because I the the, the critical points into my head.
Speaker 2:Is the adult, is my own adult mind, it's it's me, it's all me. But I am criticizing my inner child and one thing that I learned that I also learned was for the past six months, I was losing my focus into my coaching and the course that I was creating, but it was because I listened too much to my inner child. The inner child is really a child, as you know, a child. It's like I don't want to do anything and I just want to sit here, and it's like you really it's petulant is the word we have in England.
Speaker 1:Petulant it's very. I want this, I want it now, and if I don't get, it.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be unhappy. That's what? Yeah, but if you, if you had this, these events in your life as a child, and your, your, your parents denied something, but they didn't also give you the support that you needed. Back then you, you, you really felt alone and you and, and, and it's. These emotions are staying into your body and these are the emotions you, you're still feeling. But now you are capable to be your own parents, you're capable to be your own adult and just let the inner child feel. But you still have to do shit, you know. So you really indeed have to combine it, and you don't have to listen to one one side of the story more. You, you have to listen to both of them and let yourself feel what you have to feel. And that's the thing that I learned now, and it was very, very freeing to learn that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Very, very freeing. I love what you just said Freeing and difficult as well, though. I mean, I love what you just said Freeing up, and difficult as well, though, because it's kind of like a skin or a piece of clothing that's stuck to us, that we have around us and we have to maybe not quite the right analogy, but we have to almost rip it off. Before we can, to let go of things, we have to rip them off, or maybe rip them off is the wrong, maybe shedding them is a better way of putting it, but the only way you can shed is by growing. So therefore, you have to grow in order to shed, otherwise you'll just maintain you'll.
Speaker 2:you will, yeah, maintain the same dead skin, so to speak, and that's not healthy or beneficial no, but I also believe that you have to go through things before you are capable of seeing. Absolutely yeah, because if it's, we are what? Sorry?
Speaker 1:carry on, carry on wait, I don't.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we are. We just want to be so comfortable sometimes that we are just staying where we are, and that's also because I don't know I think we also spoke about this the last time it's like your brain just wants to be safe and that's a reason why you just want to be comfortable all the time. But you don't get anything out of it if you're staying comfortable, because most of the time you can see that when people are comfortable, they also don't feel well what do you mean?
Speaker 2:yeah, they just don't feel good and they are like yeah, I don't feel, I don't like my life, I don't like how it's turning out.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know, but they don't like how it's turning out.
Speaker 2:Yes, I know what you mean, but they don't do anything about it. But that's for one reason that's normal, because their brain just wants to hold them. It's just keeping them safe.
Speaker 1:Yeah and also Say it no can. Safe.
Speaker 2:You go. That's also one thing, that when people are becoming harsh on themselves, like, yeah, I, it's true that I don't change anything in my life, but and I don't feel well, but I don't know what to do and I don't dare to change anything, and I can see that most of there are a lot of people that are hard on people like this, but it's it's very normal that you do these things, like you know that you're not in a good place, but you it's also hard to to to go on and to search for new things. It's normal and sometimes, yeah, and sometimes people are very hard on people who who are doing this, but it's very normal that you do. You, they just have to go this deep before they go out, you know, and it will come, the time will come before they go out, you know and it will come.
Speaker 1:The time will come exactly. Yeah, we shouldn't expect people to jump into the deep end if they've never been swimming before, or or lift 100 kilograms if they've never lived a single weight in their entire life. We need to normalize the idea of breaking down progression into achievable steps and understanding that progression. There isn't one form of progression which is some sort of miracle, feat or accomplishment. A progression is also slow, consistent, and that's where some of the most what would you say long lasting and beneficial progression can be made through through progressing in a gradual and controlled manner, but with a solid undertone of maybe acceptance that you can do it or that are capable. But yeah, it's not about these big, grand, grand occurrences all the time. You know, like your wedding day, you know it was a good day, but it wasn't. It's not about that, it wasn't. It wasn't like that very time, it took time. Okay, uh, let me have a look, man, I'm finished just ask a question or you want to know just ask the question.
Speaker 1:Do you want to know? Just ask the question that you want to know what word question Did we get everything? Yeah, but you said something that I wanted to ask you about because I thought it was really, really interesting, but I forgot. Now I need to start writing things down, but I feel like it's rude if I write things down, but I'm going to do it anyway.
Speaker 2:Why? Wow, okay, why do you think it's rude?
Speaker 1:I'm not yawning because I'm tired. I'm yawning because releasing energy is actually a myth. That we only yawn when we're tired, it's a myth yeah, I know that's not correct okay, she knows. All right, what are you? Some sort of like encyclopedia of yawning or something?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I forget Encyclopedia. Do you know what an encyclopedia is?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's like a big, big book. Got loads of information in it.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I know, I know. Okay, I just didn't understand. Yeah, I know, okay, I just didn't understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know you are when you're, when you're going to stop laughing on me, by me and not when you are. When are you?
Speaker 2:okay sorry.
Speaker 1:If you want me to stop laughing at you, then I will the last.
Speaker 2:The last question you were you were asking me on Instagram, is why people should exercise.
Speaker 1:Why people should sexercise. I mean exercise.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Why should they?
Speaker 2:Because it also is body work.
Speaker 1:It also is body work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it has a lot of beneficial things. It's making you healthy, but most of all it's like releasing energy.
Speaker 1:Stored energy, that's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it can also helpification. Yeah, it can also help with release um tension towards or from your inner child. So it all comes back to the inner child and to what you hold into your body.
Speaker 1:Um, exercising is very good to release energy yes, absolutely, and it also links back in with what we were just talking about, with the whole progression and how, because that's what we do when we lift weights, isn't it when we, when we progress through the, the we increase the the weight is kind of like increasing, I don't know insert some aspects of life where it's a form of growth, isn't it? Obviously there's not just weight lifting, there's also cardio, which I'm sure you know we all love doing cardio at home after we've been lifting weights. But the main thing is, do we do weight for an Oscar?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's very beautiful.
Speaker 1:It is very beautiful, isn't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, it is. Is it really gold?
Speaker 1:no, it's not real gold, fucking hell that's a shame. I know that's a shame. You don't have to tell me twice yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, but we were Talking about the exercise.
Speaker 1:We were talking about the exercise. You love exercise, don't you? You still exercise.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:You love exercise, don't you we? You still exercise what you love exercise, don't you we?
Speaker 2:spoke about that a lot last time. Yeah, I love it, I need it. I just need it because that's true, you just need it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not an addiction, but I need it Okay well, it's an obsession.
Speaker 2:No, no, no no. No, but you can indeed take a lot of going to the gym throughout the rest of your life. Yeah, you can take a lot of going to the gym throughout the rest of your life. What does that? Yeah, what you do in in the gym, like increasing, increasing weight, um, and pushing through. You know, don't give up. And and you know your mind, your body, can do a lot more than your mind tells, tells you yeah, and you also merge that in the gym yeah, there's uh, do you know who jocko willing is, or is it willing?
Speaker 1:no, that's joe work jocko willing. So he's like an american ex navy seal super duper motor, sort of super duper discipline. Uh, ex army s guy, very successful, very, very popular, and he was talking about how he reached a lot of the conclusions that he learned from life are a result of that space that you, that place that you go into in extreme exercise and how you have to go into a certain part of your mind and there's a lot of knowledge stored, stored in there, and I thought that was really interesting how he he made the. He sort of he claimed that what it's what has taken psychologists and philosophers and etc, etc. Reading to learn. He learned a lot of it just through delving into his psyche, which I think actually so it is a incredibly beneficial exercise.
Speaker 2:Ironically, you can. You can also do body work throughout, indeed cardio or tennis, or you just need to move you just need to move.
Speaker 1:You know, I like, I like to move it, move it.
Speaker 2:Me too, me too.
Speaker 1:Classic. You don't even get the reference. What a sad.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do, I do, I do.
Speaker 1:I do Look at you with your little air conditioning unit behind you. What is it? Who's got air conditioning in their bloody house? What's that all about?
Speaker 2:It's for the warmth and for the cold, so it does both.
Speaker 1:Oh, it does both ways. Do you like it both ways? Yeah, I bet you do. Um, what else should we talk about? We've got 10, 15 minutes left. Is there anything that you want to talk about? I like to ask guests that I like if there's anything that they're curious and want to know.
Speaker 2:I can't. I don't know Any topics that you're interested in.
Speaker 1:I also. I don't know if you know what it is, I did ayahuasca.
Speaker 2:Oh no, you did not, I did oh and gee, that's sick.
Speaker 1:We should have started with that. How did that go? Where did you do that? What have you learned? What was it like I?
Speaker 2:did it in Colombia. It was like but you can't, you just have to try it before you don't? You can't explain, no, it's, do your best. Yeah, so I was just in my head, um, I didn't saw anything around me, everything around me just stayed the same. But I just I was really in my head and I also had a very calm experience. Um, it was my first time that I did it, um, and I also I didn't vomit or I didn't. Um, yeah, I did go to the bathroom afterwards, but it was.
Speaker 2:It was not, it was in my into my body. It was not that that crazy or something. And in my, the world around me also, it was very calm. But I was just in my head and I was seeing a lot of colors and I was seeing a jewelry that I Afterwards I was thinking that I had to make this kind of jewelry, but I also saw myself from a distance and it basically came down to also the controlling thing. Like I just was too controlling, I was taking too much control of everything. I just needed to let it go, and that was the main focus in my experience.
Speaker 1:In your trip, in your experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 1:I think. Karen.
Speaker 2:I think, karen, I think my experience wasn't that heavy or it was this calm, because I also took too much control of it. I wasn't letting it go and I wasn't Because I was also very afraid because I was in a country that I didn't know I was. I've never been to Columbia and it was my first time there. I didn't know anyone there. Um, it wasn't in a group. I was with 10 to 15 people that I didn't know. They were speaking in English, so it was very out of my comfort zone. I was very scary, I had a lot of anxiety when I was there, so I was keeping my control, and I also think that because I had a really hard time there, um, the the universe has decided to give me a very loving or not that heavy experience you know true experience, yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't need.
Speaker 1:You weren't one of those people that needed. You had probably already done a lot of the yeah exactly to wake up. You've probably already done a lot of the necessary work beforehand, so you just needed some little tweaking, tiny little movements to make a big difference, whereas other people they need a lot of far greater intervention, whereas you didn't, which I think I like. That it's really it's good and it's you got the benefits of the trip without having to, uh, sort of suffer the the possible consequences of a really negative trip that might, that that sometimes can, sometimes can happen. So that's, that's so awesome. Will you do it again?
Speaker 2:yeah, I want to do it again yeah, she's gonna do it again everyone yeah, but I I'm this time I'm going to do it in in my, in belgium or in france or somewhere closer and I want to talk. I just want to be in Dutch so that I don't have to worry about anything else, and just be and just really relieve the control, you know. Relieve the control, like go of the control.
Speaker 1:You know, really is the control, yeah, like though of the control, so that might yeah, because that you, if you're having to know that you're gonna have to speak english, then you have to have your guard up a little bit and you have to be slightly more. You can't fall back on your native language and just speak subconsciously or extemporaneously.
Speaker 1:You have to be thinking I'm speaking, I've got to speak English, so you can't fully let go and let loose, you know. So I get that, I get. That's really difficult, that's pretty difficult. What's in the future for Nell Baldwin other than marriage? What? That's pretty difficult. What's in the future for Nell Baldwin?
Speaker 2:Other than marriage. What? Yeah, I just want to. How do we say it? Lounge, no, lounge, lounge, yeah, I just want to lounge.
Speaker 1:My course lounge no lounge lounge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just went to lounge, my course, my sick of lounge morning yeah, I just yeah. That's one. That's my main focus and my main priority right now sorry, carry on yeah, you hurt me. Yeah, and I also, I also um went to organize in 2025. I want to, really want to organize a retreat somewhere in the world. I don't know if it's going to be in Belgium or in Bali.
Speaker 1:You know, I count it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can come, but I just I really want to organize a retreat. So these are my. No, I'm going to add another one. So I have three priorities right now and I want to buy this house for my dad, for my father, and I want to rent it to people for also just to calm down and it's very into nature. So these are my three priorities at this time, at this moment.
Speaker 1:Is that how the Dutch do? Is that how Belgians do three, or do you do it like that?
Speaker 2:I do that like that.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you just said. So that's good. Did I? What did I say? I did. I said no, I didn't. What did I say?
Speaker 2:it means I do it like this, I do it like this.
Speaker 1:En dudazo. Lo hago como eso Esto. You should bring me to Colombia because I speak Spanish.
Speaker 2:Do you speak Spanish Really?
Speaker 1:I do speak Spanish.
Speaker 2:Damn straight. Hablo espanol muy bien.
Speaker 1:Nice, I want to learn Spanish. Bueno, puedo enseñarte si quieres. I can teach you if you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to really learn it. It's a nice language.
Speaker 1:Yeah, es un idioma bueno. Uh, aprendi.
Speaker 2:No, I learned but your, your ex also, is not that bad it shouldn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I I watched a lot of spanish tv and I I lived in spain for two months, so I often yeah, so I often just put things on in spanish. So I just remember the, the accent and the voice. Yeah, the accent's okay, you know. Yeah, I can't roll my r's, I can't go, I literally can't do it that's true, yeah all right, how do you know? A bit harsh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you're British.
Speaker 1:British? No, but that's not the reason. A lot of British people can do it. It's a nightmare because in Spain there's two forms of R. There's R, just like the way we say R, and then there's the R yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, all right, show off.
Speaker 2:It's what you're called. You're not a dog.
Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah, yeah, I'll take. I'm not a dog, yeah, I like dogs Um. Yeah, yeah, I'll take. I love a dog, yeah, I like dogs Um.
Speaker 2:I have one vein here. You see, this vein If I laugh a little bit louder, then this will pop up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's quite.
Speaker 2:You see it now? Oh yeah, that is legendary.
Speaker 1:Look at it, that's really. You see it now? Oh yeah, that is legendary Look at it.
Speaker 2:That is legendary. There's another one.
Speaker 1:No, I have one.
Speaker 2:But it's too dark in here.
Speaker 1:I'm going to message. It is a bit dark, isn't it? Yeah, I'm going to message you and be like how's your vein? Oh God, is a bit dark, isn't it? Yeah, I'm gonna message you and be like how's your vein? Oh god, right, I think let's call it a day now at least.
Speaker 2:We'll stop recording now. So I'm gonna press that is. Have you got any closing remarks? Yeah, I just yeah. I think it sounds easier than it's done, but just let it go let it go, let it go you're enough right now.
Speaker 1:You don't have to grow now immediately there's time, and if there isn't time, then it doesn't matter. Yeah, don't sacrifice the present for the. Don't sacrifice the present for the future too much. A large part of life is working out in what context do we prioritize the present and in what context do we prioritize the future? That's a hard, that can be hard, but that's the journey that we all go on in life.
Speaker 2:And then one day you get married, like now yeah, also one one very important thing is to to um subscribe to the podcast, if you can think about something and to set your intentions and then just to let it go.
Speaker 1:Brilliant. That is so true. Think about something, set your attention and then let it go. I love it. Like planting a seed yeah, that's often used in manifestation speak. Every time you plant a seed, you don't dig it up the next day and look at it and go oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fuck, you haven't grown any. You haven't grown you little twat. No, you don't do that. You don't do that because it's not fair, because it's just a little Okay.
Speaker 2:It was very angry how you said it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it was fake anger, but yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:I know, but that's true, that's very true. Don't do that. So why would you do it with your intentions?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. Why would you do it with your intentions? We don't. So now, six months time, you'll be launching the thing, you'll be going for another ayahuasca trip in belgium and then we'll be going on our retreat somewhere yes I like it. Thank you everyone for watching and listening to the Breaking Point Podcast UK. This has been Nell Baldwin signing off and getting ready to launch or lounge.
Speaker 2:Thank you.