The Exploitation of Black Culture, Kendrick Lamar's Symbolism, and the Evolution of Gang Dynamics in Hip-Hop

Can black entertainment be truly understood without acknowledging its historical roots and modern-day exploitation? Join us as Ron Brown LMT, the People's Fitness Professional, along with Mikey Fever, Seanie, and Clip, tackle this pressing question and much more in a thought-provoking episode. We start with the hot topic of white people exploiting black culture and quickly transition to the current music scene, spotlighting the unparalleled Kendrick Lamar and other influential artists like Marsha Ambrosius, Stally, Anderson .Paak, and Common. Humor and sharp commentary ensure it's not just informative but also engaging.

We delve into the rich symbolism in Kendrick Lamar's latest music video, exploring themes of black entertainment as an export and the historical context of black dance. The metaphor of white shipping containers and their links to human trafficking and imprisonment will leave you pondering. Plus, we touch on Drake's controversial personal life and its broader impact on his community. Anticipation for Kendrick's new album builds as we dissect the cultural significance of his visual storytelling and fashion choices.

This episode also offers an insightful exploration into the history and evolution of gang culture in New York and Los Angeles, tracing its origins and transformations. We address the role of media in exploiting and perpetuating negative stereotypes, while highlighting the need for accountability. Our lively interview panel with Ron, Seanie, Clip, and Mikey wraps things up, giving you a taste of what's to come next week. Don't miss out on this compelling discussion that's both enlightening and entertaining!

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

What's going on everybody? It's Ron Brown NMC, the People's Fitness Professional, alongside my co-host, mikey Fever's mic doesn't work right now. Yo, ed Shawnee in the building. What's going on, shawnee? How you feel?

Speaker 3: 0:17

My bad what up Shawnee?

Speaker 2: 0:18

Hey, hey, hey, hey. What up, mikey Fever? What's going on? Big brother, how you feeling?

Speaker 3: 0:22

man Feeling good man. I was rocking after some Alexander O'Neal. You know what I'm saying. I don't know if y'all know about that.

Speaker 2: 0:30

You was in your zone, huh.

Speaker 3: 0:32

In the zone. Man, I ain't mad at you. You got to spread it out, clip, clip, what up? What up Laying down bro.

Speaker 1: 0:45

What? What are you laying down?

Speaker 4: 0:45

bro, what are you injured man.

Speaker 5: 0:46

I'm just in time for the show Stomach aches, so you got to like light stomach aches.

Speaker 3: 0:51

Oh man, oh man, okay okay.

Speaker 5: 0:53

You're going to be laying in the bed with four other niggas in the room. That's crazy Pause.

Speaker 3: 0:56

Those faces out eating that pork man Get up or something.

Speaker 1: 0:59

Bro, that's kind of nasty work. Right there, yo, clip is laying in the bed. What up Trev On the live? Yo, yo, you Put him on his toes and all that. Yo, oh God Yo.

Speaker 2: 1:17

Frolicking in the living room.

Speaker 1: 1:22

Yo, let's get right into it. Not like us, the. I was getting ready to say the movie, the video. Not like us, the video and we're talking about. I'm going to just come out straight and say it. I'm going to say white folks exploiting black culture.

Speaker 3: 1:39

Always been happening as of today.

Speaker 5: 1:43

That's the standard of what's going on with black culture in general.

Speaker 1: 1:48

So we're going to go into that. First. We go right into you know what. Before we go into that, let's talk about what's hot and what's not, and then what's going on in music first, and then we can go into the other stuff. So, cliff, what's hot and what's not right now.

Speaker 5: 2:02

Kendra.

Speaker 3: 2:04

That's it, that's it.

Speaker 5: 2:09

That's it. I mean that's the hottest thing in hip hop right now is Kendrick Lamar. I mean like, if we really get into it, what else do we care about at this point?

Speaker 3: 2:18

That's it.

Speaker 5: 2:20

You know what I mean. You got people. You know you got people that's dropping music but we don't really care to listen to it because it's basically all about Kendrick. At this moment he has the shine, he has the movement going and that's like think about it. Who has released something outside of Marcia Ambrosius that people really care for?

Speaker 4: 2:45

Marcia Ambrosius. People really care for Marsha Ambrosius.

Speaker 3: 2:47

And she is dope too.

Speaker 5: 2:48

Dropped the whole album with Dr Dre. So like, as far as, what else is there to really check for at this point?

Speaker 4: 2:55

Well, I'm a big Stally fan, so I'm listening to Stally. I like his album. Well, his recent album just came out.

Speaker 1: 3:01

Stally still coming out with stuff.

Speaker 5: 3:06

I know about it, but what I'm saying is Stally ain't getting the push and he's not getting the look. You really got to be a loyal fan to really know that he's dropping music.

Speaker 3: 3:14

Stally from MMG. Former artist of MMG.

Speaker 1: 3:16

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 3:18

That's why I'm like what he still got. He put out a recent album, I think last Friday Album before that was to me was a classic Damn, I forgot the name off the top of my head. But the album before this one I know. This one is called Peerless or something like that and the other one you know he do them funny covers. So this is when he's turned to the side. You see his bald head with a tattoo on his head. If y'all want to go check that album out, it's fire. I ain't going home.

Speaker 5: 3:49

Stolly dropped some new stuff. Anderson Pack and Knowledge dropped an album. Marsha Ann, Brocious, Jeezy and JT dropped a single. Common and Pete Rock album drops this Friday, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3: 4:06

I'm getting that I heard a few tracks off this stuff.

Speaker 4: 4:09

I thought it dropped it right and I thought it was out so good. Looking on that, because I definitely want to hear that.

Speaker 5: 4:15

Oh, Bobby Wolf and Big Noi dropped a single Fabulous French Montana. And what's it called? Drop the single Fabulous French Montana. And what's her name? Fabio.

Speaker 1: 4:35

That's about to be good right there. I like that.

Speaker 3: 4:37

That's a summertime joint.

Speaker 5: 4:39

Last week, I think, juelz and Jadakiss dropped, like a week and a half ago, something like that.

Speaker 1: 4:42

What you think about Juelz and Jadakiss, that connection, I think Juelz dropped Juelz and Jadakiss dropped like a week and a half ago, I think, something like that. Okay, what you think about Juelz and Jadakiss? That connection, I think we spoke about Juelz on the last one.

Speaker 5: 4:52

Yeah, I said I could hear his dentures all over the record.

Speaker 1: 4:54

Yeah, that's so true though.

Speaker 3: 4:58

Clev come on.

Speaker 4: 5:00

man Juelz is trying to catch one and I think Kiss is that person To really do Something and I think the fact that they did the verses I think he's still living off that time that Kiss took His Bandana- yeah, actually, juelz dropped two records. He dropped that basketball. Yeah, also actually.

Speaker 5: 5:26

Jules dropped two records. He dropped that basketball record, he dropped whatever he shot the video in the battleground yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:37

I'm gonna say I didn't hear the. I didn't hear the Jada and and Jules. I didn't hear that record. But what I like about it is Juelz is a true like. He's a true hip-hop duo. Like, despite how we came out of, on the other end, what he had to go through, in his heart he's so hip-hop. I grew up with him so I I have a like a little understanding of you know where his, where his alliances lies as far as our culture is, and you're not going to find so many people who love it as much as he does so him.

Speaker 2: 6:20

I feel doing that track with Jada is more about honoring someone who needs to be honored in a time where we don't really do that from a cultural standpoint anymore. That's kind of how I see that, Because I can remember Jewel's rapping AZ bars in the bowling alley when he was like nine years old. So when you think about things like that, I remember when battle rap was really coming up and he was in the battlegrounds tearing everything that was coming up on the top of the hill apart. I remember people going to get people to get murdered by him, like yeah, I witnessed a few of them. When I hear that, that's what I see On a lower level. I was listening to this Red McFly and G-Depth and Corey Gunn's track though.

Speaker 3: 7:22

That's my man right there from PA.

Speaker 2: 7:24

I was listening to that.

Speaker 1: 7:27

How Depp sound right now Depp still got it.

Speaker 2: 7:31

Depp, still got it. That's just where I was going with it. Depp, still sound like Depp Bars is more crisp.

Speaker 5: 7:41

Yeah, his voice is more crispy now.

Speaker 2: 7:43

Yeah, yeah, he just sound more crispy, like, and it was a wonderful thing to enjoy and hear and, just you know, bear witness to man. I kind of was stuck on that for a minute. I ain't gonna lie, I haven't really moved off of that, like I'm just so happy to see him back and see people trying to pull him back up and things of that nature, you know.

Speaker 1: 8:06

I like, I like the way, I like where this conversation is going. This is real peace as far as like the explanation and all that on these different artists and what's going on right now in hip hop. Let's go into Kendrick Lamar Not like us the video. Break it down real quick, lamar, not Like Us the video. Break it down real quick and get your viewpoints on this video alone, because a lot of people have. They took the video and they broke it down and dissected it and said that in this video there's so many different meanings. How true are all these meanings? I don't know.

Speaker 3: 8:42

Yes, there is he basically the date he chose to drop it? There is he basically the date he chose to drop it, which is so dope was July 4th. Basically, he did the show on Juneteenth. The show Black Celebration July 4th All Americans in this country celebrate that. It's like a block party. The video just shows unity in the community. He had the gangs united. He's doing things that Drake doesn't do. Drake cannot go to the middle of Compton and do that. He got to do that in Toronto. The symbolism behind the video was dope as well, like the owl getting smacked up. The owl's put in the cage showing him. In Compton, everybody's singing along, showing the cultures behind him. That was dope right there.

Speaker 1: 9:20

Do you think the video could have been done better? No, directed better? No.

Speaker 3: 9:26

It's perfect the way it is.

Speaker 5: 9:27

Explain the video. The video is so layered and subliminal.

Speaker 4: 9:33

Yeah, that's the word.

Speaker 5: 9:36

You've got to understand the history. First of all, you've got to understand the history of black people, because there's a lot of black history in that video. You know what I'm saying? From the knock on the security, that's a slave record. Yeah, that's a cakewalk. You know what I'm saying? It stems from that, from him being in the classroom with 12 people being judged by a clown.

Speaker 3: 10:02

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 10:05

I just caught that now.

Speaker 1: 10:07

I did not get that one.

Speaker 3: 10:09

That video not to cut my bad clip, it's in response to Drake's comment about you rapping to Free the Slaves. That's all it's all about.

Speaker 5: 10:16

It's a response to all that All the jurors, all the kids in the class are wearing red and white. I mean red, white and blue. But if you pay attention, they're in an all-white room wearing red and white. I mean red and blue, Unifying signification of the Bloods and Crips, Right. So it's a lot. The outfit that he's wearing is a Mexican designer that lives in the middle of California, which is bridging the gap between LA and the Bay Area. It's a lot. It's a lot of layers in this video. Him doing hopscotch and skipping, purposely skipping over the six while he's doing it. The white containers with the black minstrel show dancing inside the containers, and how black entertainment is an export.

Speaker 4: 11:16

Yeah, see, now I didn't get that.

Speaker 1: 11:19

All of time Rewind. Did he just come up with the perfect segue? Was that the perfect segue? Was that the perfect segue? Say that again, bro.

Speaker 5: 11:30

The all-white shipping containers with black people doing the modern black dances but technically in the past I would have looked upon as jigaboo dancing and how black entertainment is an export to the rest of the world. That's a fact. Also, the double meaning of the shipment containers. What do human traffickers and pedophiles do?

Speaker 3: 11:53

They contain this, they transport them, the owl being put in cage. You're going to jail soon.

Speaker 5: 12:02

The girl quit walking on a tightrope in the sky, telling Drake that he's walking a fine line, like it's little metaphors that people didn't catch in the video because it's so hold on, damn, I'm trying to get the sound effects ready.

Speaker 1: 12:22

I need a bomb where the bomb at? Oh, that's the boy. Okay, at least we got that. At least we got that.

Speaker 5: 12:32

Drake, that I could start you pulling up in the land boat driving to the hood burger spot. That's a crack In my hood. You wouldn't be dead caught in here without a thousand security guards. I grew up in this neighborhood. I used to come here on the regular.

Speaker 4: 12:53

That restaurant, that burger spot, the sales went up 40% since that video. That's Tim's Burger. I'm a big fan. A famous spot for them, but it went up 40%, which is dope.

Speaker 3: 13:08

Yeah, he brought money back to the community.

Speaker 4: 13:09

Exactly keeping it in the community.

Speaker 5: 13:12

Yeah, also, there's another part. Oh him and his wife and his kids. If you pay attention, his wife and his daughter are both wearing wife beaters.

Speaker 3: 13:24

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 13:25

Which is a subliminal direct to try to say I'm a wife beater.

Speaker 3: 13:28

And Crip Walken in the living room. Crip- Walken.

Speaker 5: 13:32

The place that they're dancing in is his grandmother's house.

Speaker 4: 13:35

And you also got to look at it like this Drake is afraid to show his son's mother because she knows a background.

Speaker 3: 13:44

She's an adult star.

Speaker 4: 13:48

Pusha ain't afraid to show his wife. Drake is the only one who's. He said he was hiding his kid. But you're really hiding your wife, Hiding your baby moms.

Speaker 1: 13:56

So Drake's wife is an adult entertainer.

Speaker 3: 13:59

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 14:03

T, let that be known. You cleaned that up for IG because the stench is on him right wow, hold on.

Speaker 1: 14:10

So real quick, let's rewind. Going back to what clip said, if anyone else has any thing to chime in on this, on this video, the breakdown. So he was doing the crit walk with his daughter's wife in his grandmother's house. I I would be. I would assume that that's in Compton. No, because he's not, because they rich now, right, so he wouldn't be. They wouldn't be His grandmother's in Compton.

Speaker 1: 14:33

Oh, and he's right now in Compton, wow, ok, ok. Yeah, you know, because I was looking at the house I was like yo, like it's kind of like an old kind of look. I was like yo, it looked like the whole Brooklyn oh.

Speaker 3: 14:47

You got jokes oh wow. You smoking, you got jokes. All right, All right Harlem. All right Lexington Ave.

Speaker 1: 15:01

Let's not talk about that zombie land.

Speaker 5: 15:05

The whole entire video is showing Black unity, yeah, black unity Outside Black unity, mm-hmm. Going against someone who constantly tries to break up happy homes.

Speaker 4: 15:22

My favorite part of the video. After I learned about the whole cakewalk thing, the history behind the cakewalk, and they broke down the whole Atlanta and where it was from and where it stemmed, that shit just made me. I got to watch that again Because that whole thing behind Atlanta and you running to Atlanta to go get money and what Atlanta means to black people, back then and now.

Speaker 3: 15:47

The third verse itself was a killer, the third verse itself. He took him to school with that. That whole third verse was very educational. It's a soul sample.

Speaker 4: 15:56

What about the verse that he did at the beginning of the video?

Speaker 5: 16:00

Broccoli, yeah, which? The record is a sample. It's from Debbie Deb from 1988. You know what I mean 1985.

Speaker 3: 16:11

I'm waiting for the album, man. I'm just waiting for the album. When's K-Dot dropping man? It's later.

Speaker 5: 16:18

Album 88, 24. August 8th that's the predicted date and that's written on the jacket. I'm waiting for that.

Speaker 1: 16:27

What did he have around his head? Like scarf, or maybe that was a Scarf was part of the fashion.

Speaker 5: 16:33

Okay, that was a Mexican designer. Yes, he wore two. You know how there was a rumor. You know how there was a Mexican designer. Yes, he wore two Mexicans. You know how there was a rumor. You know how there was a few Mexicans that were complaining about how he didn't show Mexicans no love at the pop-out. The hat that he wore when he was dancing with the leather jacket with the crowd yeah, that's all Mexican brands.

Speaker 3: 16:54

But that's crazy because there were a lot of Mexicans at that pop-out concert. So I don't know, but the performers were mexicans.

Speaker 5: 17:06

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understood, you know. Now I'm gonna ask uh, why? Why we celebrate? We're not celebrating mexican culture at this point. This is a black.

Speaker 4: 17:11

This is juneteenth now we only celebrate mexican culture.

Speaker 5: 17:15

A single de mayo no, I I'm saying for that performance. That was a June 2 celebration about the last freedom of black slaves. We wouldn't be celebrating Mexican culture on this day. We're going to be celebrating African-American culture on this day. You know what I'm saying. So that's why Kendrick did what he did Now to me. I thought the video was amazing. I mean, I want to hit a record for the rest of my life because I don't like Drake. I don't like nothing that he represents. I would love for his hip-hop grade let me say that his hip-hop grade to get stepped on every single day for a lifetime.

Speaker 1: 17:56

Wap, wap, wap, wap, wap. Okay, let's go back to WAP. Somebody thanks for bringing that up. Thanks for bringing that up Now, wap, right. Someone said that WAP is a derivative from, for some term used by Italians to call each other WAP, and it was a whole. He broke down a whole explanation about it. What you think about the WAP? I mean what?

Speaker 5: 18:24

you know, that was just street slang, they was doing extra for that. That was extra. You see, that one.

Speaker 4: 18:32

Or, if you want to be technical, or we could go pro-black and far left, the whop could mean a black man whipping a white man. Whop, whop, exactly. Because if you get a switch off a tree, you're going to hear that whop, whop, whop, whop. That shit you know what.

Speaker 1: 18:52

See, Trevor, that's what be happening. Y'all make stuff up out here, man.

Speaker 3: 18:56

He says make things In the video. He was doing that in the video to the piñata.

Speaker 5: 19:04

Who normally beats up piñatas?

Speaker 3: 19:07

Mexicans.

Speaker 5: 19:08

Group of kids.

Speaker 1: 19:09

Oh, Say that again.

Speaker 3: 19:16

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 19:16

The piñatas. Piñatas are used for usually kids' parties. Yeah, they're not really used for adult parties.

Speaker 4: 19:24

Nah Right Drinking pills to the kids.

Speaker 1: 19:29

Oh, okay.

Speaker 3: 19:31

Oh God, this thing is a rabbit hole. It gets nastier and nastier Yo yo yo.

Speaker 1: 19:36

I like Kendrick coming out. You know why? Because Kendrick represents the real MC where you gotta keep rewinding what he's saying and you gotta look at the videos to look at the subliminals in the videos.

Speaker 5: 19:50

Every single video he puts out is that.

Speaker 3: 19:52

Oh yo, I have one thing to add. We forgot to mention Lupe Fiasco. Dropped Samurai. Yeah, we forgot to mention Lupe Fiasco dropped.

Speaker 2: 19:58

Samurai.

Speaker 3: 20:00

Yeah, we forgot to mention that, lupe did something.

Speaker 4: 20:02

It's an album or a song. I'm going to check that out, stop sleeping with Lupe.

Speaker 2: 20:09

Nah, nah, nah. No pillows for Lupe, lupe is nice.

Speaker 5: 20:15

Lupe is an elite.

Speaker 4: 20:17

Yeah, he was one of those that copied his rhymes in my poetry class for college one time.

Speaker 3: 20:26

They ain't know where I'm from. Was it Muro, was it Muro, was it Muro? That song right there, crazy bro.

Speaker 4: 20:36

Food and Liquor. The first one. I listened to that shit and then I just taken a little bars from that. I was going to poetry class like yeah, son of a, they ain't know where that shit was coming from. They.

Speaker 2: 20:54

Yo. So that beckons the question what kind of response would be on par, how far, how subliminal, how culturally connected would the response have to be for it to be on the same part? Could there be a response that's on the same part? Does this have the opportunity to raise bars in beef in hip-hop? How you respond to one another? Seeing that this card that he laid seems to be a Trump card, it seems to be very well thought out, or a plan of the joker, if not right you would have to respond somehow some way, because everybody is saying death to poochie at this point like that's.

Speaker 2: 21:50

That's the speech, so you have to find a way to respond, okay?

Speaker 4: 21:54

my question is that I feel like this I feel like it depends on the next battle we get now. If we get a little cool People, who's who's known for rap, then you may get that. But if we getting drill versus drill, all we're gonna get is smoking on poop, smoking on the nah drill.

Speaker 2: 22:20

I wouldn't see that. I don't know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't count drill like that right, because drill doesn't real. Drill doesn't come from the musical standpoint into the balance. It comes from the balance into the musical standpoint, so I wouldn't even put that in like real. It comes from the balance into the musical standpoint, so I wouldn't even Put that In it. Real street beef and music beef Is in two totally different lanes, even if sometimes they end up Walking the same path. But they're in two totally different lanes. So I wouldn't put the drill music in it. But I'm just saying, like you said, from a lyrical standpoint, say we had two real lyrical artists who just had some sort of a disagreement that turned into a spillover, would this lay a a new foundation for how one is to respond to any kind of an insult?

Speaker 4: 23:13

that's a that's a good question I think yeah, but if you really it takes it back to like the mixtape era. It gives us Beanie Seagull, jadakiss, you know what?

Speaker 5: 23:25

I'm saying Property.

Speaker 4: 23:26

You know that type of shit where you know like back then you literally had to wait. Now it's cameras, it's phones, it's Instagram and shit like that. But, like I, I said, if it was too hardcore, then yeah, we gonna get. We gonna get some balls, we gonna I'm not saying we're gonna get ether versus takeover, but it's gonna be on the level of, okay, I gotta, I gotta say something other than I fucked your bitch. I got more money than you. My cars are 202626. It's going to be more than that. It has to be. What about?

Speaker 2: 24:02

the B portion of the question, which is more aimed at the visual concept, Because that's what Clip broke down. I mean I'm pretty sure you saw more things than most people did. Right, I bet my last dollar on it. You saw more things than most people did. With that being the elevation of the visual, does that bring back spending money on the? Does that bring back the old bad boy Yo spend money on the video? Let's make this a movie.

Speaker 5: 24:43

Does it?

Speaker 2: 24:43

bring that back. Because, that is a part of artistic value that we've lost and we're continuing to lose because everything is so instant. Just like you said, we got the Instagram, everything is so instant, you don't? Really get the opportunity to think something out.

Speaker 3: 25:05

How does?

Speaker 2: 25:05

this dynamic work.

Speaker 4: 25:07

I think you know what, I feel like my fault, but I feel like with they, not Like Us. I think that had to have a video, like I think, after that song came out and it really was like, oh shit, somebody got this nigga.

Speaker 4: 25:27

And then to this because, like, even back then, every song that we liked didn't have a video. But those songs that was hot and we was like yo, I can't wait to see the video for this. I know Hype is going to do this, I know X is going to do this video. That song had so much power where you had to be like I just can't hear it. I have to see it. So it's going to be the next. We're all in the 40s, so I'm assuming we're not going to get no real battle where we're going to be like I got to see the next video Like how are you going to finish this, nigga Right?

Speaker 4: 26:09

You know, what I'm saying, like that video was the finisher and because the song was so crazy. You know, we old, so we, like I got to see the video for this. Like I'm waiting, I'm waiting to see Rap City to premiere for this video, right, right, right, if we ever get to see that next iconic battle, a visual has to be that. And I'm saying, like you know, I'm pretty sure Hype or Lil X none of them niggas did the visuals, but something's going to pop where a visual has to happen.

Speaker 2: 26:47

Okay so that leads to portion C, ma that leads to portion C. What do you think? What path would Drake be able to take? Obviously, it would have to be something based in Toronto. It would have to be something based in Toronto. It would have to be based in Canada. It would have to be. It would have to come from a standpoint of something that we don't understand.

Speaker 1: 27:10

Can I cut you off so real quick? I think, okay, listen, I don't hate Drake because I don't know him. To hate him, I don't hate nobody. Really right, that's just not in me to hate people or whatever. But with Drake, I never liked Drake. From the first day. I heard him From the first day when he came out with that song Baby you, my Everything I said yo, what is that? Who is that?

Speaker 3: 27:34

Nah turn that off.

Speaker 1: 27:35

Turn that off. Then they kept playing and kept playing. I was like yo, turn that off. Yo, you could ask anybody. I was around at that time. I hated that song. And then when he kept making songs, I was like yo, when is this guy going to go away? So I never liked Drake, right, I never liked Drake, but I think that Drake I'm listening to his bars right now and I'm like yo this dude really loves the culture.

Speaker 5: 27:59

He really loves the culture. Say what he loves the music. He doesn't love the culture.

Speaker 1: 28:06

He just misunderstands the culture. Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2: 28:11

I give you both a standpoint. I give you both a standpoint. I'm glad that this came up, because I wanted to ask about this. Because I wanted to ask about this, I wanted to ask about this how do you feel, from a cultural standpoint, about borrowing bars?

Speaker 4: 28:28

A lot of people do that.

Speaker 2: 28:30

I know a lot of people do it, but I'm asking you, from what standpoint is it respected or what standpoint is it coming from? Because there are some people who borrow bars to keep them alive. Right, keep this bar alive, keep this feeling alive, keep this inspiration alive, sort of like we would do with just recently, like the lion king, and then redoing it again for our kids, and so on and so forth. Right. Then there's always the nod, the. This is what I listened to growing up. This is somebody who had an influence on me, right?

Speaker 2: 29:05

yeah then there's always the fact that hip-hop was born from borrowing like that's. That's part of the borrowing is part of the culture if it's not, if it's not from the sampling, from, even from starting with discop, I like to call it from doing over break beats and things of that nature, if it's not borrowing from the ice cream commercial and things of that nature and then moving it up and borrowing from Gilligan's Allen, cause I remember, I know y'all remember that Gilligan's Allen joint that used to come on on the late night.

Speaker 3: 29:36

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:37

So, and the Gazelle joint that used to come on on the late night, yeah, so that is a strong part of the culture, and the more people whose bars you mentioned actually shows the extent of your knowledge of who you actually listen to and how much you've sponged up. That's what it shows.

Speaker 3: 29:55

That's a fact that was deep.

Speaker 2: 29:57

Listening to somebody's album and then just jotting down things. Unless you're somebody like that, that's what it shows. That's a fact. Listening to somebody's album and then just jotting down things Unless you're somebody like that, that's different. But I remember Drake wanting to do joints with Wu-Tang. I remember Drake wanting to do an album with Aaliyah. So he does have an affection for the music, for the culture, because that's a strong part of the culture, Like he's trying to follow from that far back is a cultural aspect.

Speaker 1: 30:28

If you watch Drake back in the days when he was a kid, you see him rapping Lauryn Hill lyrics and all of that. But look, look, look, look. As far as the coach is concerned, he's trying to deal with, he's trying to engulf himself in the culture, if you will Identify with it more. Yeah, identify with it more. Remember, he has his hand in the battle rap. He has his hand in the battle rap, right, right, doesn't he yeah?

Speaker 3: 30:57

he does. He has dog on in a battle. Rap right, right, doesn't he? Yeah, he does, he does.

Speaker 4: 31:02

I think I feel like Drake attached himself to more popularity than anything.

Speaker 2: 31:10

Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 4: 31:11

Yeah, yeah, like you said, Clips he doesn't coach, it's just the attachment. You know what I'm saying. He doesn't really go outside of his catchment. When it comes to producers, right, wayne and Baby well, I would say Wayne and Baby, but what's a J Prince? He has backing because of J Prince, so he has that behind behind them. That is no more. When you now, you forgot about this part in the video, there was a scene where kendrick is standing there and somebody trying to sneak up on him from behind and gets blown away. Right now, when you look at drake, drake has yet to really address Kendrick in a battle. He addressed everybody in that whole battle. When you really think about it, if it wasn't for the fight that got Rick Ward's ass whipped, drake wouldn't have said shit. He wouldn't have got on live and happy Independence Day for Canada, all that other dumb shit. If he was a real MC, he would focus on his target, which is Kendrick. He has yet to really focus on Kendrick and Kendrick is letting him know I'm the boogeyman.

Speaker 3: 32:38

But his girlfriend stood up for him recently.

Speaker 4: 32:40

Who.

Speaker 3: 32:42

DJ Acidemics.

Speaker 4: 32:45

I'm not saying that.

Speaker 5: 32:47

I just want to reiterate what I said. Drake is not for the culture, he's for the music. You can't tell me anything of the culture of hip-hop outside of music, because hip-hop is not just rap music. He's anything of the culture of hip hop outside of music because hip hop is not. Hip hop is not just rap music.

Speaker 2: 33:01

He's part of it, but but where do you wait? I'm sorry, I apologize.

Speaker 5: 33:08

That's all good. So good, so good. He's not of the culture. The culture of hip hop is the culture of black people. Culture of black people. Peter Rosenberg said it himself Drake is the great actor. He acts like he's of the culture. When he's back home in Canada with his white Jewish mother and his white Jewish crew, he doesn't talk hip hop, he doesn't act hip hop, he doesn't live hip hop. Hip hop is a lifestyle for us. We have. We are born, bred in this culture of hip hop without knowing that we're born, which is a natural thing for us. For him, it's a, it's a form of imitation. This is which is why, in his music, 95 percent of his music, is him imitating something of black culture right now.

Speaker 1: 34:00

check this out so that this is a good segue, great segue, great segue to go from drake into 1090, jake, adam, 22, no jumper and trap, low law ross, and how these younger people um, I'm saying younger being that you know they're either close to our age or in their 30s, you know, or even late 20s, who knows Right. So younger people, europeans, white, still to this day exploiting black culture, and I think what they have is a way to persuade the public and sell their idea to people and get people in line with their ideas but what public are they swaying?

Speaker 5: 34:55

because the black, the black authentic hip-hop culture that we're from, we don't pay attention to 1090J. That's a fact. He's swaying white culture that wants to be interested in what they think hip-hop culture is. Let me cross this bridge with you.

Speaker 3: 35:17

I want to add something. It became tolerated, as clip said, is that there's a generational gap where some people lose the morals and principles. If you listen to the majority of these young kids today, they'll consider somebody their age the big homie due to the fact that he has money, but he doesn't have no moral grounds, but he'll just call him big homie just for the sake of it. You understand what I'm saying. These guys leech off people who have no kind of knowledge of self or no understanding. They'll go on Vlad TV and he will exploit their past crimes and have them tell on themselves. You get what I'm saying? Adam 22 does the same thing too. He glorifies what takes place in the hood, what he deems as culture, which is not the culture completely, because our culture is not based on music and everything like that.

Speaker 5: 36:04

We set foot in the hoods. Yeah, neither one of them set foot in the hoods. They're not in the trenches with the rest of us. They glorify and exploit our culture and a cat like 1090 Jake fam. You grew up in the suburbs of Massachusetts. When you start tatting your face, screaming you was blood.

Speaker 2: 36:26

But that's what I wanted to. I like because that's the bridge right, going from Drake, because I was really starting to understand where you was coming from. I understand where you was coming from. I understand where you was coming from on that right. Because then I thought about it and I'm like, yeah, you could jump from what was hot to what was hot and you might have been able to hide there. But then you did. You tried to do the same thing with Duke University. You tried to oh, now I'm a basketball player, so it's like you'll just you just want to put your face on everything, like you. Just it's like you just putting your face on everything, right. And then we walk across this bridge to 1090 right now.

Speaker 2: 37:13

1090 a lot of people I know he's starting to get this attention now, but you know 1090. He's been one of them. Kids who's been in and out Like his channel started Telling jail tales of him Doing his time. That's how his channel started, right? So I wouldn't say that has a lot to do with Exploitation, to the point where he becomes a content creator and things get a little conjumbly. But he does come from that background. He does, he does, yeah.

Speaker 2: 37:50

He's blood and all that right, yeah, no no, no, listen to me, I'm not really finished my point, because it goes on to say is gang culture considered black culture? Yes, but how, like, how?

Speaker 4: 38:10

All right If you want to break down gang culture.

Speaker 2: 38:14

For Bloods and Crips yes, but really Bloods and Crips is not the only gang right. There's Spanish gangs, there's white gangs.

Speaker 5: 38:24

He's a part of a black culture gang.

Speaker 2: 38:27

But what I'm trying to say is gangs is gangs bro.

Speaker 5: 38:32

I get what you're saying, but the origin of Bloods and Crips of the culture itself, the lessons and the rules of faith.

Speaker 2: 38:40

We know all of that. But it's not that now. It's not that now you understand it's people have power to group up other people and they move from place to place, and that's what they do. So they might move to a territory where it's mostly white people and they start scooping them young white boys. I meant to send a video into the chat about it. I meant to. I meant to send it ahead of time. It's just happened. A bunch of 15-year-old young white boys died, gangbanging bloods and crips and so on and so forth, but there was a black dude who brought it out there to them. So that's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 5: 39:18

It's not, and that black person that brought him over there is a sellout. Don't act like we don't got a bunch of black sellouts out here.

Speaker 2: 39:24

What I'm trying to say is what it once was is not what it is. All of that is shame, all of that.

Speaker 5: 39:33

But that's not the first time. We've seen white bloods and crips, but that's my point.

Speaker 2: 39:41

I don't think that it's proper for people to claim gang culture as African American culture, especially us. Why would we claim such negativity when we know, when we know, when we know, when we know. I come from that era where them blood niggas started. I come from that era Part of my language. I come from that era where that started to pick up. You know what was in the street before Bloods was in the street.

Speaker 5: 40:10

Yeah, I know, I know it was before that too.

Speaker 2: 40:14

You know who was in the street alongside Latin Kings.

Speaker 5: 40:19

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2: 40:20

All right. So then, let's not act like people whooping up in the name of protection, or in the name of spreading violence, or in the name of whatever belief that they set out to do is based on your color. It is not. It's based on the dynamics of your surroundings. They have biker gangs who are way more violent than any blood of crip you've ever seen.

Speaker 5: 40:51

I don't know about that. But yeah, bloods and crips were formed to protect black people from that neighborhood from white people right, no, yes, no, no, no.

Speaker 2: 41:10

They were rolling with black pea stones. That is that time, if you listen, okay hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1: 41:18

I don't want to.

Speaker 2: 41:18

I don't want to go too deep on that, but I'm just saying a lot of these gangs, a lot of these people started these games when they were young, they were 15. A lot of these yeah, that's a fact 15 16 do you think, when they were young. They were 15,. A lot of these people yeah, that's a fact 15, 16. Do you think that they were thinking revolutionary or do you think that they were thinking about the people that was in the next neighborhood? Hold on, guys.

Speaker 3: 41:39

White gangs. That's why they call the Bloods and Crips the bastards of the party. Yes, Because of the lack of leadership. As you said, they were young by the time. The elders could have been there to coach them right. A majority of them were locked up or murdered.

Speaker 2: 41:53

Okay, but I'm still astute of Larry David, I'm astute of that, I know about that too. And Jeff Ford, I know all about that. I know all about that. So what I'm trying to say is over time, things get corrupted. This is this is a truism. This is not something that we're going to run and duck and hide from.

Speaker 3: 42:16

This is what happens.

Speaker 2: 42:17

Things come corrupted, right, and you said something that that that is obviously different now. Right, you said it was a thing of protecting the neighborhood. Neighborhoods at a time were extremely segregated Neighborhoods. Over time have become less and less segregated. More and more people have been intermingling.

Speaker 1: 42:37

So let's go back to the point. Hold on, let's go back to the point, right so, dope, dope, dope content commentary. Now check this out we're talking about. So you're saying 1090 jake, is it not necessarily exploiting black culture because of his background and the way he probably grew up?

Speaker 2: 42:57

right, right so this is what I'm saying, so that's cool.

Speaker 1: 43:02

But when you, that's cool, that's cool. But when you make a, when you make your name off of the fact that you're pulling people's paperwork because they are rats or snitches and that's just your spiel, that's exploitation, bro let me ask you I'm not too sure if that's can I?

Speaker 2: 43:23

I see it right, I can see that I. I can see where you're coming from with that, but I see it as a little murky right, Because he's talking about something that I'm starting to realize between exploitation and journalism there's a very thin line, because now we're saying it depends on the color of the person, the color of the skin of the person who asked the question.

Speaker 1: 43:59

Okay, let's do this real quick, Trevor I would say academics is one of the most important things.

Speaker 2: 44:07

Sure true. Okay, hold on, hold on, I would say academics is.

Speaker 1: 44:09

I negate that. I would say that hold on, let's go, because we're not talking about. I want to talk about the names. What do you think? Okay, 1090, jake, I can see it. I can see what you're saying. I'm not 100% in agreeance with you, but I get it because he's from the streets. He's from the streets. He's from the streets right Now.

Speaker 5: 44:32

We gotta stop this shit. Though. We gotta stop this shit.

Speaker 2: 44:34

It's not because he was locked up. You're talking about somebody who put their time in like that's crazy. Yeah, it was. What are you getting caught for? It's not being in the street, but when is this respected? This is my point, right.

Speaker 5: 44:51

Just because you get caught for a crime does not make you street.

Speaker 1: 44:56

Nah, he been in the streets Like he been in the whole. I'm trying to say, like I'm saying, listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 2: 45:03

I'm not one of the people who just started. I've been listening to 1090 for a couple of years.

Speaker 5: 45:11

You're not going to tell me this fat white boy is from the 50s, bro.

Speaker 2: 45:16

You're not going to tell me this You're being racist, bro. I don't care. You got to expand your mind, bro.

Speaker 3: 45:27

Hold on Hold on, hold on hold on.

Speaker 2: 45:30

Travel on Ross Travel on.

Speaker 5: 45:32

Ross, what happened to?

Speaker 1: 45:32

Travel on Ross. Y'all miss him. Y'all miss him, no, no.

Speaker 5: 45:37

White, this fat white kid with a Donald Trump.

Speaker 2: 45:41

Bro, that's him now. That's after he figured out how to get money off YouTube. He grew up since then.

Speaker 3: 45:48

Can I say something.

Speaker 2: 45:50

So look look.

Speaker 3: 45:52

So this is crazy, right?

Speaker 2: 45:53

Well, if he was black, it would be respected that he took this money from everybody. Everybody was just going to have to reject that.

Speaker 3: 46:02

Hold on Tony, hold on Cliff. I hear what both of them are saying and let me reiterate that when I said exploitation, just like you said, academics, I look at both sides, no matter what the color is. But my thing is this how much can you thrive off people's pain, no matter whether you're white or black? It's just that where the principle is at On that note.

Speaker 2: 46:20

Here's the person. Here's the person that there should be no disagreement with Adam 22. There should be no. Nah, they're not the same.

Speaker 1: 46:34

Adam 22 and Jake 1090 is not the same.

Speaker 2: 46:38

They're not the same. Your man just gave. He just gave what's his name. He just gave this kid, blockstar, a platform to talk about how he murdered pop smoke. Yeah, that was that's act. Now, now, now this is made, that's exploitation. You have nothing to do with new york, nothing. You got nothing to do with none of these games. And then here's another part I wanted to. I wanted to know how people felt about. There has to be two sides to that right. So how, oh right, you called them out to sell out.

Speaker 2: 47:16

I think, I think one of y'all called it out to sell out, right oh yeah, um clip I don't even have to, I don't even have to, I don't have to go no further with that one right because, for in order for there to be someone to exploit, there has to be someone who sells out.

Speaker 3: 47:31

So is the person who sells out?

Speaker 2: 47:33

is this person looked at in the same light as the person who chose to exploit?

Speaker 1: 47:36

Yes, sir, are we talking about WAC 100?.

Speaker 2: 47:39

Yes, it could be anybody.

Speaker 1: 47:42

I'm just talking about the deal, how do you look at the deal? But you know what, though, I realize, la politics, california politics, we is completely different, like the way they think. I'm realizing it's something going on out there that we can't even fathom, really. You know, I'm saying like you, we gotta live out there to kind of like figure it out, because, like I'm lost, like I'm like yo, what's going on out there? I mean, it's not you know when, when the rock uh watch riots happened, you know how they showed up, they popped off, they popped off. But when it comes to like black and white issues, they seem to not be too stern on certain principles.

Speaker 1: 48:32

I feel like.

Speaker 4: 48:34

I feel like this First of all, that gang shit wasn't even a New York thing, that was a California Midwest thing, chicago, la, detroit. They held all that gang shit down.

Speaker 1: 48:49

Nah, new York always had gangs though.

Speaker 3: 48:51

Since the 1800s bro.

Speaker 2: 48:53

Nah, not on that.

Speaker 3: 48:55

Not on that level.

Speaker 1: 48:56

They had posses and cruises.

Speaker 2: 48:58

Come on.

Speaker 4: 49:00

We had D-steps like yo Posses and cruises. Posses and cruises like niggas you grew up with on your block.

Speaker 1: 49:08

It's kind of the same thing, bro. No, it's not. It's not. And it's not because a gang, a gang, you're going to franchise, gang Franchise. We had Yo yo yo, cliff say that. Can you run that list down, bro Cruz, y'all wildin. I'm going to have to get some New York gang members before Blesz and Chris on the show now.

Speaker 3: 49:30

We had D-Seps.

Speaker 4: 49:32

Okay, I may have went because you got a point, because during the 80s they had all the Jack of Spades and all the type of biker-looking type of dudes. You're right.

Speaker 5: 49:43

That was the 70s, that was the 60s, 70s of gangs. That was the gang that formed this culture that we love so much.

Speaker 1: 49:52

And then it turned into the Zulu Nation.

Speaker 5: 49:54

Yeah, they birthed this culture. They birthed hip-hop culture.

Speaker 4: 49:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crips and the Bloods, that's a whole LA thing. When we think about it, we only think about Crips, bloods and all that other stuff. You're right, y'all right, because in the 70s they did have the Black Peacestone Disciples and all them other.

Speaker 5: 50:17

Black Spades, javelins, reapers, savage, nomads. It was a bunch of New York City gangs. It wasn't just Black gangs, it was White gangs, italian gangs, asian gangs. We had that. We had the same dynamic that LA has, but we had it in our own way here in New York.

Speaker 4: 50:33

I think LA had it more. It was stemmed from trying to protect the community.

Speaker 2: 50:42

Yes, I think it just comes from rolling with. I think it's just that peace. Don't split, bro. I think it's just that P-stone split bro. I think it's just that P. I mean, I think it's just that P-stone split. But you know what, though?

Speaker 1: 50:55

I gotta give much respect to any Bloods in New York because of the reason it formed Right. We gotta respect that bro.

Speaker 3: 51:08

It was necessary. It respect that bro From Rikers Island.

Speaker 5: 51:14

From other people that worry.

Speaker 2: 51:18

But that's because I was in jail. Bro Jail is a segregated place. I get that, and that was still in the early 90s In LA.

Speaker 5: 51:35

it was formed in the late 60s and 70s Bloods and Crips to protect themselves from the white gangs.

Speaker 1: 51:43

Oh, I see what Cliff is saying, though.

Speaker 2: 51:44

That's why he's saying that I don't know, our game coach is black from politics. If it was that, if it was that the Bershkins would have never ended up beefing. If listen, if they would have formed in the name of beefing against somebody who don't look like you, there would have been no need in two colors.

Speaker 3: 52:06

The drugs got in the play in the community, there would have been no need in two colors.

Speaker 2: 52:08

There would have been no need in two colors. The beast comes from something as small as just like from project to project. God is over there.

Speaker 5: 52:19

Later, it started when it was formed for the purpose of the community revolution in progress. It started for the to, to, to, to protect us from white gangs. So when I see a, so so when I see down the line, me, cause I, I, I'm a guy, that I'm a guy that lives off the origin of things. So when I see something, he's the creator and that's off the origin of things.

Speaker 2: 52:48

So when I see something, he's the creator, and that's not what Tukey said. See, that's the problem with that, because that's not what Tukey said.

Speaker 5: 52:57

Raymond Washington is the creator. Raymond Washington is the creator. Tukey came after Okay, that's the See. This is where the game fucked up, and even in Raymond Washington's death row sentence he was mad at himself for where they took it from, where it's from, to the original state. He said that out of his own mouth, mm-hmm, because he told us I made this into something that wasn't supposed to be.

Speaker 1: 53:33

Let's talk about.

Speaker 5: 53:35

Let's bring it back to 22's goofy ass of exploiting black people. And then we got to sell out black people that's going up there because they just want some views and a little bit of cash.

Speaker 3: 53:46

That's what I was referring to.

Speaker 5: 53:49

Exploiting the ignorance constantly for a bag Right.

Speaker 2: 53:55

And that's why I said how do we look at the deal? Because we always look at the he who we deem to exploit. So we never look at the person who allows them to exploit. We never look at that. We always look at this person like this person is a victim. Oh, this person came up here. He's asking these questions and he told this story. We always look at that person like they're your victim. We never look at this person like they're a sane individual who can make their own decisions.

Speaker 3: 54:22

That's all we're referring to Shawnee. When I said that, I said yo, we got to stop giving them ammunition to use that against us. Because we go up there, we carry ourselves to that, we perpetuate the ignorance. They just got a camera. For instance what Tony's saying Worldstar wouldn't survive without ignorant comments coming from the people.

Speaker 1: 54:39

But you know what? Who they get up there? It was Worldstar. He was a spell out too. They don't really know.

Speaker 3: 54:49

I'm not sure, because like he's a businessman, unfortunately.

Speaker 2: 54:53

You see, look, that was creating competition Right when U2 was going, in a way of Restricting what could be put up and how one can Comment, and so on and so forth, there was a need for another platform that would just do whatever.

Speaker 5: 55:11

All of our ignorance on display like this. He was a self-.

Speaker 2: 55:15

Put that up. This is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. At what point? When do we blame the people?

Speaker 5: 55:25

Hold on, hold on. I've got videos on WorldStar. What I'm saying is that WorldStar videos have to get vetted. You couldn't just upload like I could do on YouTube. Those videos all had to get vetted from them. The majority of their videos that they got known for was the ignorance of black culture. So, q, in my mind you're a sellout because you contributed to the downgrade of morality of black people, especially in hip-hop culture.

Speaker 2: 56:03

But what if that wasn't his intent and that's just the way that it turned out?

Speaker 5: 56:11

So you took money to exploit us. That's even worse Because we justify all the ignorance shit with he getting the bag though. He getting the bag though. Like when do we stop with the bag talk and start getting back into morality? And then we wonder why so much chaos around here and why everything is so out of control, because we overlook morals and everything that our grandparents and all these people, the ancestors, fought and died for for a bag.

Speaker 3: 56:44

We gotta check ourselves.

Speaker 5: 56:45

We gotta check ourselves at some point and start finding every excuse to justify this ignorance shit all the time. I'm not saying we don't got ignorance in our community or we don't say we have that, but there was a point in time when we would check ourselves and we in our 40s, we the OGs, we got to start checking this shit because it's getting out of hand.

Speaker 2: 57:09

At what point? At what point? Here's the question. At what point Does the man make the sacrifice Like? At what point does a man say the people who chose To put this up here chose that action and I have to survive? At what point? At what point does this come up and at what point is it not acceptable? Right, because now you're not you, but now the point is I've created this platform. People chose to use it in a sad fashion. It doesn't say world star, world of black ignorance. That's not what it says, right.

Speaker 5: 57:54

You chose it to report the news. When it was first created, you were reporting the regular news that dealt with hip hop. That's what it started off for being a news reporter If you report a crime and you okay, what's it called? Got locked up for this, blah, blah, blah. This happened. This show, this event happened here. This that cool, I don't have no problem with that. But when all you're doing is glorifying, posting the videos of all the ignorance, of the videos of the ignorance, like it was over the top at one point in time With Worldstar, worldstar became the theme For anything that was ignorant. Worldstar Right. And guess who made that Turn popular? It wasn't black people, it was white people.

Speaker 2: 58:42

It sure was. And this brings up my next question Is it Exploitation if the views mostly come from black people? Is it exploitation? At that point it's ignorance. It's mostly didn't come from black people All right, but is it exploitation at that point? That's my question.

Speaker 1: 59:00

We've already established it's ignorance, it's black people can't come from black people, is it?

Speaker 2: 59:07

now is it still considered exploitation if the viewership is supported by your own culture. Yes, so what are you exploiting at that point? Are you exploiting the culture, or are you exploiting ignorance?

Speaker 5: 59:26

What are you? Exploiting Our ignorance Because you don't see white videos like that on Worldstar?

Speaker 4: 59:31

No, no, because all that shit. If you think about it, it goes back to when we saw that shit on Jerry Springer. That shit was like, oh my God, what the fuck? Once we started getting accustomed to it, it became the norm for some people. Now us, like you said, we in our 40s, we the OGs now At one point okay, that shit is funny because it's new Like oh shit, it's shocking. It wasn't even funny, it's just shocking, it's surprising. Like, oh shit, these white people fighting on TV. Now every show we see motherfuckers that's black say you know what? Tubi does it, zeus does it, fucking Ray J does it, love your Hip Hop does it, and it's all the same storyline. So it's still exploitation, whether we like it or not. It's just who chooses to watch it. If you want to be ignorant and keep consuming that bullshit, that's on you.

Speaker 1: 1:00:27

Yo check this out man.

Speaker 2: 1:00:29

Last question.

Speaker 1: 1:00:29

last question Roy we gotta cut it short because we got another interview right now. Brothers, thanks y'all. Thank y'all for coming out this evening. I really appreciate it. Yo next week on.

Speaker 3: 1:00:40

That's a fact. Dope panel. Dope panel Shawnee Clip Press.

Speaker 1: 1:00:46

This one is hot. Yo peace, peace, Peace, damn man.