Unveiling the Unsettling Ties Between Scientology and the Nation of Islam - Brother Ishmael Bey

What are the unsettling ties between Scientology and the Nation of Islam? Prepare to uncover the intricate web spun between these two organizations with Brother Ishmael Bey as our guide. From the early days of L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics to the controversial practice of auditing, we dive deep into the historical roots and present-day implications of their connection. Learn about the shadowy links to the Process Church and its unexpected ties with Black Muslims in the 1950s.

We question the strategic partnership between the Nation of Islam and Scientology, scrutinizing the curious shift of Scientology's focus from Hollywood elites to the Black community. With unsettling stories about the galactic overlord Xenu and the financial traps set by Scientology, the conversation takes a critical look at the motivations and consequences of this alliance. Our investigation is further enriched by an audio clip from a West Coast regional minister of the Nation of Islam, adding firsthand context to this controversial relationship.

We then broaden our scope to explore how figures like John Travolta, Anton LaVey, and Jim Jones interlace with the Nation of Islam, and what this means for public perception and community integrity. Paying tribute to Teponi Gray, who courageously exposed Scientology's exploitative practices, we aim to protect and inform our listeners. The analysis continues with a critique of deceptive ideologies and the manipulation of symbols and identities, raising urgent questions about authenticity and influence within these movements. Don't miss this compelling episode that promises to challenge your understanding and spark meaningful conversations.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

What's going on? Everybody? It's Ron Brown, lmt, the People's Fitness Professional, my co-host, mike, he's having fun. That's what he's doing out there. He's having fun out there. And you know, I'm a soldier. I'm not to say he's not a soldier, he's a soldier, he's a soldier, I'm just crazy. So you know, I like to work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work. I get a kick out of working. I like I'm a. I'm a I don't want to say worker bee, but I'm a work, I like to work.

Speaker 1: 0:31

So we got the brother Ishmael Bay on today to talk about Scientology in the Nation of Islam. I want to first, you know, say welcome to the show, brother Ishmael Bay. I really appreciate you for coming on today. First, let the applause. So check it out, man, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. First off, I'm going to ask a question and then you could begin your presentation.

Speaker 1: 1:08

So, the Scientology and the Nation of Islam. Now we were online and I said something about Scientology and you know, you, you, you said something. Behind it, you rebuttaled and I didn't go in. I didn't go in on it because, you know, I'm kind of on and off facebook, um, but you know, I said I didn't think anything was wrong with, um, what they call it, uh, auditing. I didn't. I didn't think anything was wrong with auditing and and I'm a I'm the type of person that's like if it it works, let's use it. If it works for the people, let's use it. If it works for myself, let's use it. But you had, you know, things to say about that. So I want to talk about Scientology, auditing and, you know, start it there.

Speaker 3: 1:58

Absolutely Fair enough. Thank you so much for having me first of all, brother Ron, I do appreciate it. Long time view of your program um your platform as it grows, as it expands and the various topics that you cover. So thank you, sponge, for allowing me to come on your platform.

Speaker 1: 2:11

I greatly appreciate it, you're welcome, thanks. Thanks, uh, for coming on. So let's talk about it. So, scientology I want to go into its history. From what I know, it's created by L Ron Hubbard, that's right, that's his name, and you have different celebrities that are that come out of this group, and I want to talk about its origins and you know, let's. Let's start there.

Speaker 3: 2:42

Yeah for sure. Yeah, scientology Exactly. It was founded by L Ron Hubbard in 1950. First started off as the incarnation of Dianetics and after about a couple of years of using Dianetics he ended up losing the trademark to that. So then he developed Scientology. Once he was able to get Scientology established, the trademark then became available again for Dianetics and he got that back. So now it's like a merger of two. The tool of the methodology used within Scientology is what you would call Dianetics. So that came about in like 19. Scientology came about in 1952. Dianetics was 1950 and it was a merger of both.

Speaker 3: 3:30

What you'll also find is in the 50s also, there was a church called the Process, and the Process is a church. That's also a part satanic satanic like the Church of Scientology but within the background it was an operating group within Scientology what they call quote unquote an enforcer. Within the process was also a coupling of Black Muslims, so there were some Black Muslims that were also dealing with that church, the process, within the 50s. So yeah, it's a very vast history. It basically started from the 50s up until right now, 2024. And yes, we do have the PowerPoint presentation. And yes, you had mentioned about auditing scientists of things and with the auditing.

Speaker 3: 4:29

Auditing is used in order to identify things to be corrected in quote, unquote the mind. So they use tools like the e-meter. The E-meter is like a low-grade lie detector. This lie detector can tell. According to them, they measure certain things. This actually goes back to the root of what they call their God. Their God is, or their overlord, is, named Xenu, and he's this alien that lives in outer space.

Speaker 3: 5:11

Oh, there we go. You didn't know that when you were talking about it, right? So the auditing? The auditing is measuring what's called thetans. These thetans are little alien beings that connect to your body. Called thetans, these thetans are little alien beings that connect to your body. So when these thetans are connected to your body, the only way that you can get them off is to go through this auditing process, and this is what gets these alien creatures off of you. That's what auditing does. So, again, not for me. This is from me, right? So Information's available online. You've seen some of the big battles with Scientology, of people who's revealed this history, like South Park, and and certain people who are anti Scientology or former Scientologists that will, who've gone up to what's called operating fate, number eight. That's the highest level of the operating fate. So what's the?

Speaker 1: 6:10

highest heights. I really don't mean to cut you off no problem two things. You said it started in the 1950s, correct? That's around the civil rights era. I just want to make note of that yep, right right.

Speaker 3: 6:24

It takes right into that 50s and 60s. That is correct yeah, so that's.

Speaker 1: 6:28

That's kind of like interesting, makes me want to research a little more. Um, and then you said that the auditing has something to do with these little aliens on the that attach to the body yes, the galactic overlord at the top is named Xenu, and Xenu lives on the planet Tediac.

Speaker 3: 6:51

What I'm giving you is information that Scientologists realize once they go up to the OT8 and they spent over a quarter of a million dollars minimum once they've reached that level. That's when they get that reality check of exactly who they've been worshiping and who they've been giving their money to. So I'm saving a lot of people, a lot of money. Okay, we cut to the chase and deal with the big joker on the table. Let's put it on the table of who's at the head of this Scientology. It's an alien that was written by a science fiction writer named L Ron Hubbard. Right, and this information again is available online, where you hear L Ron Hubbard in leaked audios talk about Xenu, this whole history. All of this is available online for people to view. Ok, All of this is available online for people to view.

Speaker 1: 7:45

Okay.

Speaker 3: 7:45

Right. So now, with the Nation of Islam aspect of it, the Nation of Islam has gone into a partnership, aka what they call a marriage, with the Church of Scientology, because they are what they say is a brand, that a name that the black community trusts, and they are self-proclaimed gatekeepers of the black community. They have teamed up with Scientology in order to bring in black people, because Scientology has various buildings all over the world Major cities and even small towns, and and all over the world but these buildings are empty. Why are these buildings empty? They're beautiful edifices, immaculate. Why are they empty? Watch Tom Cruise on Marriage 3, 4, whatever.

Speaker 3: 8:41

What are these wives seeing once they get into this and they say, oh no, I want no part of it. What is it that? White people, because that's who they cater to. They're not catering to you and I. Originally they were catering to Hollywood, to white people, to middle-class people, to upper middle-class people, right? So why are you now catering to us? Why is your interest in black people? Why? Why are you feeding off of that? The reason why is because the white people are going out the back door and they're bringing in black people into the front door. This is what you'll be able to see, and I just want to lay a premise of exactly what you'll be viewing, of exactly what you'll be viewing, okay, okay, all right. So, if I may, I'll share the screen and we'll start first with an audio. We'll play part of the audio, which will also lay the premise, and then we'll be able to go over the information. Is that okay, brother? Yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 9:37

Yes sir, I appreciate it, no problem. I should also be able to share the audio, but if it doesn't come through, just let me know and of course I can reset it okay. Okay, and are you able to did it share the screen for you?

Speaker 1: 10:12

It's sharing the screen. Yep, Okay.

Speaker 3: 10:18

So what we have here is this will be an audio of the West Coast regional minister of the Nation of Islam, and he'll be speaking to Scientologists. This was a leak that was delivered to me, and I end up coming forward with this information. I think it was in 2010. I think it was, but this will be the audio.

Speaker 6: 10:53

Can you hear me.

Speaker 1: 10:55

Yes, I can hear you, but I can't hear the audio.

Speaker 3: 11:05

Okay, so what we'll do is just reset it to make sure that the audio can be shared. There's no problem. Let me just stop this. Stop the share.

Speaker 1: 11:13

Then go back in and reshare that. Shalom Asiatic Soldier. Thanks for joining us, Kevin Ali, I'm going to just put what he says up on the screen. I don't know how true that is.

Speaker 3: 11:28

I don't know science behind that uh, what is it that he said?

Speaker 1: 11:32

this is not the nation of islam. Lewis lewis farrakhan's group is officially the final call incorporated the final call incorporated.

Speaker 3: 11:42

uh, minister kevin ali is absolutely correct and I thank you so much for being able to bring on Minister Eric Muhammad. Yes, minister Eric Muhammad was able to make that differentiation right, that that Final Call version of the Nation of Islam is not the version of the overall Nation of Islam, right? And Kevin Ali is from a faction that's independent of the Final Call version of it, representing the honorable Elijah Muhammad. Salute to Kevin Ali and Sister Nadia and so many of the wonderful sisters and brothers, the honorable Silas Muhammad and his followers also. So there's different factions under that logo. So I would be in agreement with him. I think that's what he's trying to clarify. It was a disclaimer.

Speaker 1: 12:27

Got you, but he's saying Louis Farrakhan's group is officially the Final Call Incorporated.

Speaker 3: 12:34

That's the name of their version of the Nation of Islam. They have the Final Call. Minister. Eriks is a different version, right, and then you have other different versions of it. His version is the final call version.

Speaker 1: 12:46

Yes, gotcha, that is so, oh, my God.

Speaker 3: 12:51

Very nuanced right.

Speaker 1: 12:53

What is going on right now? Like all right, here we go.

Speaker 3: 12:57

Okay, now let's see if the audio is playing.

Speaker 7: 13:01

Can you hear it okay?

Speaker 3: 13:03

No, no, no, okay, no, okay, one moment.

Speaker 5: 13:10

Let's hear, let's hear.

Speaker 1: 13:19

Charlotte NC. In a building.

Speaker 3: 13:43

Okay.

Speaker 1: 13:45

How about that? Okay, let's try it. Can you hear it? Yes, sir.

Speaker 8: 13:49

Okay, you're going to see magic spreading through the black community. I'll get to that in a few weeks. Now, minnesota Far Con is in New York where he will be speaking, hopefully, to nearly 1,000 Christian preachers. Well, now that black people in America has heard that the entire nation, here's an opinion leader, a man who moves millions. Opinion leader, a man who moves millions, he's so courageous, he's so brave, he's so secure. He said to us I will go to far off China for truth, but because I go to China and get truth, he says, I'm with my Chinese brother. It don't make me Chinese, but if they have truth and it's good for our people, he said, I'll go as far as Pluto for that truth that will free black and oppressed people. So here's a man that I hope you take another look at, because the nation of Islam over the years, the black community I don't care what the religion is, they trust us because we are the gatekeepers. We have had the best ethics presence and now, with this technology, the nation of Islam, we're seeing a rekindled energy. We're able to understand our teachings. In fact, every mosque in America, under the leadership of Minister Farrakhan, we don't teach anymore on Wednesdays and Friday nights. The mosque has been turned to course room.

Speaker 8: 15:29

I close. I close with two Biblical prophecies. Jesus Was being questioned by A wise Attorney In the book of Luke. This wise attorney Asked Jesus how can he Get eternal life? Jesus said to this man you know the law because he was Jewish. He said to his Jewish brethren what does the law say? Well, you must love.

Speaker 8: 16:33

God with all your heart and your soul. Jesus said that's right, keep going. Number two you must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus said, you've said it. And on those two, you must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus said, you've said it. And on those two, if you could just do those two, you could inherit eternal life.

Speaker 8: 16:54

Well, the wise lawyer is trying to play with words. He didn't turn to Jesus and said to the master Well, who is my neighbor? And when Jesus saw his ignorance, I believe Jesus said that was an SP. So he spoke in a parable and the parable goes like this he said a certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho and he fell amongst thieves and these thieves wounded him in his head, left him in the streets half dead.

Speaker 8: 17:30

Well, the word Jerusalem means a people or a place found in peace. The word Jericho means a state or a place of confusion. When we were found in Africa by the Europeans, we was in peace, but we was wounded in our head and put in the holds of ships, brought to America stripped of everything. So we need some Samaritans in the black community. But Jesus said as the man laid there, a priest came by, but he did not practice the Black Panther Method. Well he did. He just practiced the weakest of the power. The priest walked by on the other side, didn't try to help the man. I hope the church won't be like that toward the black community.

Speaker 8: 18:29

I know you already are not like that, but you're going to be dealing with a people that is so aberrated that you're going to need help contacting them. He said. Then a Levite came and the Levite walked close to the man, wasn't like the man on the other side who aborted him, but the Levite looked at the man and had sympathy on him, but he didn't help him. But he said, the Samaritan came and I say to you that the Samaritan that's coming today and joining with other Samaritans I can say that Mr LRH is a Samaritan, because look at what the Samaritan did he walked up to the man and poured oil in his womb, in his head, and that's what he's doing with this text.

Speaker 3: 19:28

So what I'll do is I'll cut that short in order to respect the time, but what you're hearing in this conversation is treason. That's what you're hearing. You heard him saying that the Nation of islam were gatekeepers. Did you hear him say that, brother?

Speaker 3: 19:49

yes, he, yeah, he should have said that, yeah when he says that they're gatekeepers and that the black community trusts us, and then talking about going and and grabbing this tech and spreading in amongst the black community like wildfire. You're making a deal Now. Later on, as he's in and this out, he makes a pledge to them, pledging his life to Scientology, pledging his life to making sure that everyone can get L Ron Hubbard's teachings. This is you talking to Scientologists. So once that audio was given to me, along with information that I was already collecting starting in 2008, I started to alert our community. I went to the elders that I respect. Elder Steve Coakley got him on the phone. He was letting me know that there were some things taking place in Los Angeles about some kind of plans, but he wasn't quite aware of it. Steve Coakley was my teacher since 1992. I met him through Brother Sharif and he taught me the methodology of how to do scholarship and how to share and relate information. Shout out to Elder Steve Copeland and I wanted to alert our community to let them know what was taking place. As you also heard him say, their mosque was being turned into course rooms. You heard him say that also. Correct, yes, sir. Correct, yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 21:29

So with this type of an entity coming in and him calling L Ron Hubbard a good Samaritan. Other writings they call L Ron Hubbard a saint. Other writings they call him the honorable. L Ron Hubbard is what they call him. These are things that I'm in total disagreement with, and there's an element within our community that deserves to be alerted of people that move amongst them who really believe that that Satanist is honorable. So that's what my job was to do was to alert the community. So this is Scientology and the Black Community a match made in hell. Scientology and the Black community are match made in hell. With this, as we go to the next screen, what we will find is let's see, this will go.

Speaker 3: 22:31

Let's see, we'll just do it this way. Okay, from here. Scientology is Trignology. Those who are the 5% Know what Trignology means. It's a term that's used amongst us. My assertion is that Scientology Is Trignology. It's my job to show and prove. I've been in the Nation of gods and earth in the five percent since 1982. I'm not going to make a statement on something unless I'm going to show and prove it, which is what I'm absolutely going to do. Scientology is trick analogy. This is a quote from mel ron hubbard. The only way you can control people is to lie to them. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them. Unquote name one honorable person that would command his followers to lie to the people.

Speaker 1: 23:46

I don't know any.

Speaker 3: 23:48

Name one so-called church or religious organization or anything that would, as a leader, would command his people to lie. You have to be of a certain character to even embrace a devil like that. This is his words. But again, my job is to show and prove. I'm going to make it easy for you. Let's see what he has to say. This is me on the program. This is me on Leah Remini's show, scientology the Aftermath. This particular version of it is the one that was on A&E, also available on Netflix. I've done interviews with ABC and other publications nationally, but this is when I was on Leah Remini's show. We won an Emmy Award for that. Shout out to us. Emmy Award winner.

Speaker 1: 24:49

That's peace. Congratulations on that.

Speaker 3: 24:52

I appreciate that. Thank you so much, Truly, our praise is due to Allah, but this is what we were dealing with and this audio will be on there. Let's see what it says On the cross. There was no.

Speaker 5: 25:04

Christ. But the man on the cross has shown as every man, so of course each person seeing a crucified man has an immediate feeling of sympathy for this man they're walking into your church telling you to join up with scientology and just try this, but the end game is, they're going to tell you, once you go up the bridge, that there is no christ.

Speaker 7: 25:38

that's what they're going to tell you. Yeah, and and beyond even that ishmael is. There is no Christ. That's what they're going to tell you. Yeah, and beyond even that Ishmael is, there's no Allah. There is no religious leader who has ever existed that was anything other than a thing designed to control people. That is the actual teaching of Elron Hubbard that they are things that were implanted in your mind, they're called implants, and that they are designed to control the population. All religion is that, except Scientology, religion is always different.

Speaker 9: 26:15

It's the truth. It has to be, because the only way you can control people is to lie to them. You can write that down in a book of various big letters the only way you can control anybody is to lie to them. As I use the word religion as I do with God, there are newborns, to the lingo, to what to expect.

Speaker 7: 26:36

So, just as cool as you would be, and you said I don't know anything about the mission of this. They're just as cool as what, as you would be, and you said, I don't know anything about the mission of this. They're just as clueless as what they expect through Scientology.

Speaker 3: 26:44

So when we tell them, look if you think that this is not going to lead you to being a Scientologist. You're fooling yourself.

Speaker 7: 26:51

You're going to give up whatever you profess as a religion and you're going to be a cult member worshiping L Ron Hubbard.

Speaker 3: 27:01

So that was the clip and the direct quote, as you heard from L Ron Hubbard, correct? Yes, sir, that point's been proven. Let's go on to the next, the question that's always been asked within the Nation of Islam. You will see the board set up by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the ministers of the Nation of Islam, which will survive the War of Armageddon. Right, they always had Christianity and the cross, slavery, suffering and death, and then Islam, freedom, justice and equality. I'm sure we've all seen that on the chalkboard behind and the ministers teach hard.

Speaker 3: 27:35

I was assistant minister of the Nation of Islam in Mosque no 75 here in Las Vegas, nevada. We would have the board. This would be one of the Nation of Islam. In Mosque no 75 here in Las Vegas, nevada, we would have the board. This would be one of the talking points of the ministers in order to reach the people. We've updated that version. I've updated that version to which will survive the war of Armageddon. Scientology. It means slavery, suffering and death, and then you have Islam, freedom, justice and equality. So this is still the same type of a cross. This is just a version of the cross. But we have to ask this question because there's some versions of the nation of Islam that's been conquered and they worship under this. They will place this symbol directly over this symbol and then go and teach the people.

Speaker 1: 28:17

Sheesh, it's gotten that deep, huh.

Speaker 3: 28:20

It's gotten that deep dear's gotten that deep dear brother. Now the shackles have the scientology symbol on it. As we continue, I'm going to show and prove. Elron hubbard comes from the family. His real name is ron de wolf. Ron de wolf, the wolf family, is the largest slave-arming family in the americas. The wolf family is one of the wealthiest New England families in the 18th and 19th century, made their fortune from the transatlantic slave trade between 1769 and 1820. It's believed that the DeWolf-owned vessels carried more than 12,000 enslaved Africans.

Speaker 3: 28:57

This is L Ron's Hubbard family. This is directly from the Smithsonian. If you click on that link it'll take you right to the Smithsonian. You can read about the DeWolf family directly, easy to the peasy. I'm making sure that all this information is right, available for you and it'll also be on my website, firsttribenationcom. But as we go here firsttrivenationcom. But as we go here now, you know that the stock, because his son's name was L Ron Hubbard Jr.

Speaker 3: 29:27

L Ron Hubbard Jr left. He founded Scientology along with his father, one of the founding members of Scientology. He ended up leaving his father after he started to realize that his father was getting deep into the black magic, satanic rituals, and he then opened his eyes and left his father's fold. In doing that he went back to the name Ron DeWolf. So I've gotten the opportunity to speak to his grandson, jamie DeWolf. I met him in Clearwater, florida. We spoke for over three hours and there's even video of Jamie DeWolf explaining because he came across some of his great-grandfather's writings up in Attics and Things about the Black magic side of things, the sexual rituals, the satanic rituals, and he shared that information. So shout out to Jamie DeWolf. I consider him one of the allies who was standing up for truth.

Speaker 3: 30:28

Now you have the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. The topic of Scientology was brought to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's attention to find out if this was something legitimate. September 17th 1971, from the Muhammad Speaks newspaper article approved by Allah's messenger, elijah Muhammad, condemning the works of L Ron Hubbard. What does this say? Whites in the USA, south Africa, britain, sweden, west Germany and other countries of this sort are fleeing Christianity into their spookiest religions such as Scientology. Reverend A Moran left and Reverend KJ Whiteman of New York are spreading this religion, which continues belief in ghosts, witches, spirits and demons, but conceals this primitive mysticism behind pseudo science of astrological sort. Electronic devices, which I'm auditing, and other modern gadgets are used because they are felt to be objects which whites have used for their religion. So this is from the Muhammad Speaks of Scientology specifically being condemned September 17, 1971. Wow.

Speaker 1: 31:43

Wow I thought I was getting a bomb brother, oh listen, I've been trying to get these sound effects down.

Speaker 3: 31:58

I thought I earned a bomb for that.

Speaker 1: 32:03

No, that's a clap. Hold on, we'll get it another time.

Speaker 3: 32:06

Yes sir, yes sir. So what I'm saying is that how can you justify without lying, how can you justify going against the messenger of Allah when it was brought to his attention and it was denounced? We know what you were ordered to do. You were commanded to lie in order to control people. That's the person that you're promoting who said that. We all just heard it.

Speaker 1: 32:38

Yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 32:40

Now let's continue. Process Church the Process Church. These are from the FBI documents. According to the source, the process had its origin in Arizona State Prison. The total number of members in this group is unknown to source. This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. It is and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. Our Freedom of Information Act makes sure we're giving it to everybody, all right. So, in addition to the above information, they left the attached material concerning their church. To give further background information, on May 12, 1972, furnished the following information to a representative of the FBI to the Los Angeles office regarding the process church of the final judgment.

Speaker 3: 33:38

This organization is run by blank, who's also known as Blank. Source believes the organization is either a cell or splinter group of the Church of Scientology. Source further advised that the Magical Mystery Museum in Los Angeles, california, is a front for this satanic-oriented cult. Source supplied the names of six individuals believed to be members of the process and further advised that the process acted as an enforcer or muscle of the Church of Scientology. The six names furnished by the source were supplied by Boston Massachusetts. Remember that Police department who reportedly obtained them during one of their investigations. They give you the description of a male Caucasian. They give you a description of another male Caucasian and there's also a description of a Latino. That's on there Now, as we go to Charles Manson, let's see what he had to say.

Speaker 3: 34:35

It's a very small clip about what he was able to witness in prison. Let's see what Charles Manson, who left Scientology because he said it was too crazy for him Charles Manson said that Scientology was too crazy for him, so he left. He was dealing with Scientology in the 50s, in the 50s. We just saw that it was created in the 50s, right?

Speaker 2: 35:00

Let's see what it says. The Process yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:12

Yeah, I was in prison when the diagnostics first started. Yeah, 1950. We fought the establishment. Uh, the black muslims were coming in with the quran on the dark side of the moon and the islamic arm of the church, uh, and and the masonry I don't know how to put the masons involved in that. I don't want to get tripped up with anyone else on any other level, but he come up with Diagnetics, 1950. So a lot of the guys were interested in studying the way to process the mind, how to clear your mind from past confusion, how to resurrect the soul and be reborn within yourself. So that's where Scientology started. Then they started selling it and then it got to be the process. And then the church of the last day, the last judgment. I sent some people to England. I couldn't go myself, but I sent some people there to do some certain things, to make an effect, to cause an awakening of an awareness.

Speaker 3: 36:31

So, as you heard, charles Manson is explaining what was taking place in the 50s. He was dealing with the process, saying that it was one of the arms, just as the FBI stated that it was a branch of the Church of Scientology. He also talked about what is quote unquote the Islamic arm of the church. So within that, you had this relationship that was taking place in the 50s.

Speaker 1: 36:57

Now, what Islamic arm was that? Where did that come from? Did it come from the Nation of Islam?

Speaker 3: 37:03

This was coming from a faction within the Nation of Islam that was dealing with the Process Church. If you notice, he identified Boston Massachusetts. Is what the FBI says on this document, right? You see what it says right here the Boston Massachusetts. So let's follow that and let's see where that part of it goes From that Boston Massachusetts. Here we have from the book Soundtrack to a Movement, african American Islam Jazz and the Black Internationalism, page number 97. It says after that, 174,.

Speaker 3: 37:38

But due to the missionary work of Malcolm X and the early Nation of Islam jazz musicians who persuasively reframe bebop's value and black affirmation, self-determination and freedom in a new religious context of Islam, community expanded rapidly. Temple number 11, which is Boston, was officially founded in March 1954, led by. Minister Ulysses X was the minister when they founded that temple in Boston Massachusetts. It was Minister Ulysses who then met Minister Farrakhan in 1976. Minister Ulysses became a member of the church of Scientology. He then told minister Farrakhan in 1976, brother, you need to start looking into this church of Scientology. Minister Farrakhan admits that that's when he started the germ going in his head that one day they were going to merge both of these organizations, starting in 1976, speaking to Minister Ulysses X, who was the minister of Boston, and Minister Farrakhan later on replaced him in Boston, Massachusetts. Okay, so we're talking about the fifties, in the sixties, and then them speaking in the seventies, in 1976, specifically. Are you with me so far? Oh, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3: 39:26

So, as we're following, because again we're going in chronological order, here's an FBI memo Chicago 1969. Counterintelligence program Black nationalist hate groups. Nation of Islam. Although the Nation of Islam does not presently advocate violence by its members let's keep that in mind they're acknowledging that the Nation of Islam is a peaceful group. That's why I don't want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush. That isn't fair. So here's the FBI memo. They're acknowledging presently they don't advocate violence by its members. The group does preach hatred of the white race and racial separation. The membership of the Nation of Islam is organized and poses a real racial threat. The NOI is responsible for the largest Black nationalist newspaper, which has been used by other Black extremists.

Speaker 3: 40:23

The NOI appears to be the personal fiefdom of Elijah Muhammad, meaning that's where he gets his money from. When he dies, a power struggle can be expected and the NOI can change direction. We should be prepared for this eventually. We should be prepared for this. Eventually. We should plan how to change the philosophy of the nation of Islam to one of strictly religious and self-improvement orientation, deleting the race hatred and separate nationhood aspects connection.

Speaker 3: 41:00

Chicago should consider what counterintelligence action might be needed now or at the time of Elijah Muhammad's death to bring about such a change in NOI philosophy. Important considerations should include identity, strengths and weaknesses of any contenders for NOI leadership. What are the positions of our bureau informants in regard to leadership? How could potential leaders be turned or neutralized, is the question. The leaders that were turned and neutralized was none other than his son, wallace Warveen. You also had the informant, john Ali, who was the national secretary of the Nation of Islam. He had all the records. Other key members were working along with these informants. I'm going to show and prove Counterintelligence. This is the other part of the FBI.

Speaker 3: 41:58

Alternative to changing the philosophy of the NOI is the destruction of the organization. This might be accomplished through generating factionalism among the contenders for Elijah Obama's leadership or through legal action in probate court on his death. Chicago should consider the question of how to generate factionalism necessary to destroy the NOI by splitting into several groups. Is that not what happened? Yes, sir, absolutely. Let's go further down here. Legal action against the NOI on the death of its leader depends on answers to several questions. Number one does Elijah Muhammad have a will? Is the NOI incorporated In whose name and where are the NOI bank accounts? In whose name are other NOI assets such as mosques buildings, school buildings, the newspaper Elijah Muhammad's homes, noi businesses? Depending on the answer to these questions, probate law in Illinois and whether Chicago might have a confidential source in probate administration, tying up the NOI probate administration might be possible. Chicago should examine the NOI for above counterintelligence angle and advise the Bureau consider the possibility of drawing up specific counterintelligence recommendations and to be acted upon when necessary with various contingencies covered.

Speaker 3: 43:26

These are the FBI memos. This is the plan, this is the blueprint that's been followed. So Dianetics is the foundation of Scientology. We have some of these members that say correction, we're Muslims that use only the tool of auditing. We're not Scientologists. Hashtag Farrakhan at Tony Muhammad Right. And then Will Smith drops from his annual donations. Will Smith was a big donator of Scientology. This was July 16th Almost an anniversary, right. Almost an anniversary right In 2010,. He stopped the annual donations because they had schools built where they would promote L Ron Hubbard's teachings in these schools that they would build in Los Angeles, california.

Speaker 3: 44:11

Right, wow, the other celebrities. You see some of the L Ron Hubbard events. You'll see Brandy over here. You'll see MC Lyte. You'll see Dougie Fresh. You'll see all these Chaka events. You'll see Brandy over here. You'll see MC light. You'll see Dougie fresh. You'll see all these shocker con. You'll see these black celebrities that show up to these L Ron Hubbard events. Right, see what's good.

Speaker 3: 44:35

John Travolta. Here we have John Travolta doing what he do. He is kissing his name male nanny. This is his wife before she passed away with whatever. You have John Travolta with Anton LaVey. This is from the Satanic International Network, pennsylvania, chapter Right From the movie Devil's Reign, and he's a Satanist, anton LaVey, a famous Satanist. Here you have the headquarters of the Applied Scholastics. This is the Spanish Lake, missouri. The Nation of Islam goes to the same exact location and calls it Camp Kiswah, but the money still goes to the same slave master, david Miscavige. So when it's the Scientologists using it, this is their applied scholastics camp. But when the Nation of Islam goes to the same location, they slap their logo on it. They call it Camp Kiswah. Are you with me?

Speaker 1: 45:34

Yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 45:36

So a devil can't fool a Muslim. You just slapping a different emblem on the same exact location being paid to the same exact white man. Nothing but a Scientologist Approve it. I'm approving. Here we have Jim Jones with minister Farrakhan right there next to him.

Speaker 2: 45:57

This is crazy, this whoa whoa whoa, this is crazy.

Speaker 3: 46:03

This is at Chicago, illinois. This is the other fraud that they tried to say. Some people tried to say that this was Farhad Muhammad, some of the people from Wallace Muhammad or Dean Muhammad. We tried to say this was Farhad Muhammad. Here it is All three of them, this little big three. It's just big me. So let's see what's good. And with that, does somebody call me? You have Jim Jones being promoted by Angela Davis. Right, that's angela davis back there. So sister number one, I guess oh my god, time out.

Speaker 1: 46:48

This is all making sense to me now. All right, go ahead and keep going yeah, yeah so, because angela is now a big advocate for l now right, yes, exactly right.

Speaker 3: 47:02

Yes, yes, she is, yes, she is. And then you have Jim Jones. Now let's keep in mind that over 70 percent of the people that were killed in Jonestown were black. Black people, specifically black women Trusted him. But here you have these people Wharf Dean Wallace, minister Farrakhan that were promoting Jim Jones. Jim Jones tried to join a nation of Islam three times and was rejected personally by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. He was offended by being rejected by Elijah Muhammad. I played the audio on the other program for anyone to hear for themselves. Jim Jones was highly offended by being rejected by joining the Nation of Islam because he wasn't black.

Speaker 3: 47:57

And this is a picture of when they're in Haiti. And this is a picture of when they're in Haiti. They'll come with food. Say your earthquake, ravish or some type of something happens to you. Scientology will come in and they'll say we'll give you food and water. Just go through the genetics in this auditing process. They line our babies up to go through this auditing process and brainwash them, to go through this auditing process and brainwash them. And this is what happened with Jim Jones. You'll see the little baby right here in the middle of all these individuals who drunk the Kool-Aid.

Speaker 3: 48:30

You also have Jim Jones giving the Martin Luther King Award, with Angela Davis and all of them promoting him. And then you have the Church of Scientology using the same symbolism of Dr Martin Luther King our noble heroes they use in order to push a wicked cult agenda. But who's standing up and questioning that? Why aren't more people standing up and putting their voice behind it and saying that that's not right? People were silent when hundreds and hundreds 900 plus people got killed in Jonestown. So we sound the alarm and we bring the facts. Here is one of the people that they use. His name is Jim Mathers. Jim Mathers has superpowers. Did you know that, brother Rob Superpowers? I don't know. Jim Mathers has superpowers. Okay, we know from our lessons what makes rain, hail, snow and earthquake Right.

Speaker 1: 49:33

Yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 49:36

You can just cover your eyes right. The earth is approximately three-fourths covered under water, approximately three-fourths of its surface. The sun and the moon has this attractive power on our planet, where our planet travels at the terrific speed of 1,037 and a third miles away around the sun and as the sun draws the water up into the earth's rotation right, and we talk about what makes the rain, the hail, the snow and the earthquakes. But what does Jim say? Jim says let's look at the yellow. I had friends ask me to make it stop raining in Rome because of flooding, stop raining in clear water so that people could work outside, and make it rain in California due to severe drought conditions. Within hours it stopped raining in Rome and clear water. It started raining in California. And he talks about how they're entering into a new age of miracles.

Speaker 1: 50:31

He's controlling the elements. This is Jim telling you this, so maybe he that from the 8th degree and the 1 to 40, you're saying he's saying that he's not dealing with supremewisdom.

Speaker 3: 50:41

He's saying that I'm the white man, I'm controlling these elements. Now this is him speaking of the ebony awakening. These are where they gather all the black Scientologists. They all get their cup and their hat and their hand and they go line up and they kiss the boots of this cracker. Here, jim Mathers, at the Ebony Awakening. Here you have Jim Jones in the same uniform this is not him next to Jim Jones, I just put those two together. But here you have Jim Mathers teaching the FOI in their in their mosque. This boy is standing up telling you that he controls the weather and they believe him. They have supreme wisdom.

Speaker 1: 51:27

But that's what I'm saying, like maybe they got that from the eighth degree and a one to 40.

Speaker 3: 51:31

Maybe they did, or maybe they just stupid. Maybe you were taught that you had a teacher, but then somebody else came in who worshiped Satan and your dumb ass. Just believe him. How about that? I'll go for the latter, because they might've gotten it from somewhere else. Right, but he ain't controlling no elements. He's a fraudster, he's a punk. Let's go on next. Wallace Wharf Dean, the FBI informant, jim Jones advocate and the anti-nation of gods and earths. Here's Wallace with Jim Jones. Here's Jim Jones with the FOI at the same Angela Davis event. And Wallace was anti-five percenter. He waged war on the nation of gods and earths. I'm going to take my word for it. We're going to break this one open. Let's see what it says here. Let's see what Wallace had to say. I'm not letting him off the hook. Let's see what Wallace had to say. Right here it is. Here it is. Let's see what Wallace had to say. Right here it is. Here it is. Let's see what it says.

Speaker 5: 53:01

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Speaker 4: 53:23

I wish there was a mic so I could hear, but I would like to hear clearly what the questions are. I recommend you come up here and ask a question from here. If you can come up and ask a question, we both should use the mic so everybody can hear and I can hear too. Good morning sir. Good morning.

Speaker 6: 53:46

How are you Fine? Thank you. Good morning. Ladies and gentlemen, I speak loudly enough without this, I believe. My name is Robert Walker and I'm employed by the South Carolina Department of Corrections and in my position, I deal a lot with a group known as the 5% Nation of Islam, or the Nation of Gods and Earths, who teach that each man unto himself is God God. Now, as you may be aware, iman, some of these members of the group known as the Five Percenters have been responsible for major disturbances not only in the prison system of South Carolina, but also in other states as well, and, reading some of Elijah Muhammad's writings, it appears that some of his writings may have been responsible for the foundation or the basis for Clarence Smith's formation of the group. And in your opinion, I would like to ask were some of these teachings the basis for the five percenters culture?

Speaker 4: 54:49

Yes.

Speaker 6: 54:50

And what is the Muslim position toward the Piper centers and their teachings?

Speaker 4: 54:55

Yes, thank you. Thank you, yes, he's correct. The Piper centers a group formed by a member of the Nation of Islam who was a member also of the Fruit of Islam, the men unit of the Nation of Islam kind of militant unit called the FOI Fruit of Islam. He was a member of the Fruit of Islam and he went out on his own and did not obey Elijah Muhammad who was the leader at that time, and he formed a group called the Five Percenters and he developed that group upon things that he got from the teachings in the Nation of Islam. I don't say the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, because those things were given to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad by a person who was not of America. It came from outside into America. The teacher of my father who was the leader of the Nation of Islam until he passed in February 1975, that man's name was given as Farad WD Farad and also as W Farad Muhammad. He was from outside and claimed to be a Muslim and he gave a lot of strange teachings to my father and selected my father, chose my father, to be his messenger to the black people. So we want to make sure that the record is right. It was not my father who conceived those ideas or came up with those ideas. It was a foreigner who came up with those ideas and gave those ideas to my father. And yes, now we who belong to our association, the Muslims and our association, african Americans and some others now have come join us who are not African Americans, not black. We came from those teachings to accept Islam as it is believed and practiced by Muslims all over the world.

Speaker 4: 57:31

We don't anymore support any of those teachings you're talking about. We are against those things. We're against those teachings. We see it as dangerous. We know it's dangerous. And the Honorable Elijah Muhammad he came to know the danger of those teachings too and he pulled a lot of those materials out of circulation. Really, what he did was against the ruling of the Muhammad Clarence. Yes, he disobeyed his leader. So we don't have any sympathy for them at all. We think they're a very dangerous group. Among them are some innocent, ignorant people, but the leaders are very wrong, very corrupt, very dangerous, thank you. Wrong, very corrupt, very dangerous.

Speaker 3: 58:18

Thank you, boss. Is that good enough? Do I get some extra butter on my biscuit massa? Was that good? Did I do good, boss, man Huh, is you happy?

Speaker 3: 58:27

Wow Is that good, you see that. You see how they line that agent up. Yeah, waged war Mad. Because, as Minister Eric rightfully said and gave it up, gave credit that it was the five percenters that kept the lessons right, because Wallace pulled it out of circulation, commanded them that they will be penalized if anyone was caught with supreme wisdom. Take it out of circulation. They took all of the supreme wisdoms and put them in a warehouse in New York City. But it was the nation of gods and earths who had it in our heads that you can't take it away, so that when somebody does come up, like the people that you are promoting, the people that we see on the screen right now, like the people that you are promoting, the people that we see on the screen right now, there was always going to be an element that knew that's technology right there. See how important that is.

Speaker 1: 59:42

Yes sir, yes sir.

Speaker 3: 59:46

That he would actually work with the federal government to attack the nation of gods and earths in the prison systems, knowing that it cleans up lives. Wow, see, I love that and knowing that it's rooted in reaching the babies, yes, sir. I'm going to speed this up just to make sure that we can always respect the time, of course. Is that okay, brother?

Speaker 1: 1:00:07

Yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 1:00:08

All right. In 1992, the FBI releases 40,000 documents about Jim Jones People's Temple to the Church of Scientology. That was in 1992. Forty thousand documents In 1976, july. The Nation of Islam and the People's Temple of North America recently co-sponsored the first Christian Muslim rally in Los Angeles, the first Christian Muslim rally in Los Angeles. The Nation of Islam chief minister, wallace D Muhammad and People's Temple church leader, reverend Jim Jones, spoke to more than 20,000 leaders and followers of different religions and denominations in this area. Let's keep in mind that the national spokesman for Wallace Muhammad during this time was Minister Farrakhan. Let's keep that in mind. This is what they were doing. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's off the scene in 1975 after he's rejected Jim Jones three times. And in 1976, they let Jim Jones in to go and speak at the headquarters in Chicago and doing events with him in 1976.

Speaker 3: 1:01:12

Y'all see it, I know, you see it. I know, you see it. Let's go. This is what auditing costs Big money. People want to do the auditing courses. First thing, he's going to hit you off for free. The first hit is always free, so they'll let you come in.

Speaker 3: 1:01:35

Yeah, take this little test. Here it is. But then, once you start getting into it comm course 250. Life improvement courses 240. That's 490, right there. Lower bridge purification 3,800. Scientology drug rundown 13,600. They hit you with the grade 0 13,600. That's the total right here, just to get clear 99,760 Big money OT levels.

Speaker 3: 1:02:02

Remember when I talked about some of those OT8s? Remember what I was talking about? Those OT8 levels 5,750 OT's 1,325. Big money OT3 10,800. You get up here to the OT levels 3,500, 17,000. By the time you reach OT eight, you in 240,000 minimum Big money To get to OT eight above 461,660. And then if they alter one word they make you have to take the course over again and repay.

Speaker 3: 1:02:40

Scientology is a pay as you go. Religion this is on the levels. Remember. They would sit across from each other. They give you these stuffed animals so that you're now therapy going over this with each other. This is what's called a slow brainwash. This is at the Scientology Center, as y'all can see. This is what auditing is, see. So this is why I share that type of conversation when I see that taking place, because I have the information of what it leads you into and how they take advantage.

Speaker 3: 1:03:15

Now, for many black leaders within the nation of Islam, they could not afford this type of money. So they would then go to celebrities to sponsor them. See, we saw one of the people that were there, tony Muhammad. He was sponsored by Leah Remedy. She paid for his courses before she got out and on top of that she gave him a personal loan. Give some sob story. I can't pay my bills. X Y, z. Gave him money here, here, take this. He's probably crying, right. So that's auditing Big money. So this is what they talk about with the auditing. And then this is Alfrady. I mean Alfrady Johnson, also known as Alfrady Johnson in Africa.

Speaker 3: 1:04:08

This is L Ron Hubbard with his Captain Crunch hat on his little faggoty shorts in Africa. Very racist. He said that he was the embodiment or reincarnation of Cecil Rhodes. Cecil Rhodes was one of the largest colonizers of Africa. That homosexual Cecil Rhodes used to have his own country called Rhodesia. And it was L Ron Hubbard who said that he was the reincarnation of Cecil Rhodes. And that's him with his black staff in South Africa.

Speaker 3: 1:04:43

Ok, next, jack Parsons. Jack Parsons ended rocket scientist slash devil worshiper. Jack Parsons was living with his occult friends in a commune in the Grand Mansion of Millionaire's Row in Pasadena, california. They talk about later that he met L Ron Hubbard, a future founder of Scientology. Parsons was immediately smitten. Parsons practiced a magic based religion. Parsons was immediately smitten. Parsons practiced a magic based religion. It involved community with God and demons and Hubbard was the most gifted, most natural magician Parsons ever met. It says that Parsons quickly welcomed Hubbard into his commune's inner circle and Hubbard rapidly repaid his generosity by sleeping with Parsons' young girlfriend Betty. In fact, betty soon ditched Parsons to date Hubbard full time. This devil worshiper, jack Parsons, was also friends with L Ron Hubbard and also another well-known Satanist, duval Val Will. Who was that? Alec Sac the crawley. There we go. All of them were bfs. Right, these bff besties were the big three at that time. These devil worshipers, right. Not smoking enough causes cancer. Quote L Ron Hubbard. Is that an accurate statement? You are a fitness expert, brother. Not smoking enough causes cancer.

Speaker 1: 1:06:21

We already know that's crazy, that's inaccurate.

Speaker 3: 1:06:26

If you were to say that, though, brother, they would accuse you of being in theta, and they would have to make you go take extra courses to get your mind right, brother. Not smoking enough causes cancer, mind you, this is Alron Hubbard with his Captain Crunch hat on his cool cigarettes there, and he would smoke at least two to four packs of cigarettes a day. Four packs of cigarettes a day. We don't have time right now, but if I did click on to this, you would hear him saying that not smoking enough causes cancer. I just want to show you that it's here in case anybody wants to see it.

Speaker 9: 1:07:05

It's available online for them to see for themselves, right? Well, there's societies in England that are having an awfully good time fighting the cigarette I can't do anything else. So they fight cigarettes and they say cancer. And you've been hearing something of this, I'm sure.

Speaker 3: 1:07:22

Yeah, not smoking enough will cause you cancer I just want to at least get that part of it out. There's still respect, the time just to show and prove. Okay, now let's see what the facts are. The facts are is how smoking affects your cancer risk, right? About 80 percent of lung cancers, as well as about 80 percent of all lung cancer deaths, are due to smoking. Lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in people in the united states. This is from the American Cancer Society. We're bringing you the facts and the data Because that false science fiction writer you have to believe everything that that man says.

Speaker 3: 1:08:04

Right, what's going next? Leah Remini versus Scientology. Before I went on to her program, as you saw earlier, I had to let her know listen, it's very nice to meet you, no offense, but you need to put something on my plate. I'm not coming on your show, you know, representing the Black community and I'm not really seeing it, because I got information, ms Leah, that you've been financing Scientology, that you've been financing. This information was given to me in 2009. I'm just meeting you right now, in 2018. And I've been teaching that you've been financing actors and you've been financing Black leaders. Is that true? She said yes. I said well, I'm going to need you to have to put that out in the atmosphere and put some on the plate. To her credit, shorty said say less.

Speaker 3: 1:09:00

Check Twitter, 9th July 2018. Whoa, congrats at Tony Muhammad. Wondering when you might be paying me back the money you borrowed from me as a personal loan when we first met at Celebrity Center in 2010, as well as the Scientology courses. I never heard back from you, hashtag curious. Shorty just went full. Why blow up my spot? Because we both got caught. You know that I'm giving you money. You know I'm paying for your Scientology right. So when I'm going to get that back, I'm going to need that.

Speaker 3: 1:09:43

And this is a salute to Teponi Gray. Rest in peace. She was able to join us on the program. She never got a chance to see the program be aired. Very strong sister worked out of Los Angeles and then saw that she was only being paid $50 a week and that she was being brainwashed, left Scientology and then became an advocate to save as many lives as possible. To salute to our sister, teponi Gray, a real heroine in her family Salute.

Speaker 3: 1:10:16

This is the L Ron Hubbard Community Auditorium, right, and this is where this is what they call mosque number 27 in Los Angeles. They've moved full-time into the Church of Scientology, right, and in our forum Scientology Invasion of the Black Community we deal with these type of topics. As you can see for yourself, these are some of the things of what we go over on the program on our forum. These are some of the questions of things that we go over what's going on with the Church of Scientology, what's going on with them and the Black community, right? So as we go over that, we have these type of informative topics about today's show, about what's going on in Nigeria, right, this is what goes on. This is Jim Jones in Dorset, houston, perth.

Speaker 5: 1:11:17

The son-in-law of Elijah Muhammad, who married his daughter, also had split the movement. So, while Muhammad, finally exposed for what I had predicted and prophesied that he was, is now exposed for what he is and no longer has any power in the nation of Islam. Let us hope that under some reasonable facsimile or perhaps they will call on Farrakhan that we will see a return to some semblance of strength and identity.

Speaker 3: 1:11:51

This is Jim Jones asking for the Nation of Islam to return to Minister Farrakhan because he called what he realized an FBI informant. Excuse me, a CIA informant informed him that Wallace Muhammad was a CIA informant and then he went and told all the people at Jonestown that, because, remember, they were besties before right. He then went to the people at Jonestown that because, remember, they were Bessies before right. He then went to the people and said, oh, that guy's a CIA informant, told me that he's an agent, so I'm glad that Farrakhan left them. We all need to go support Minister Farrakhan. That's what you just heard him say. Now we have our sister Nadia just three days ago, scientology building, scientology in FOI uniform. Blasphemy post your real symbol and not our flag. Why is she saying that? Because they're in this Scientology building promoting as if it's a mosque when it is not. But let's see what it is.

Speaker 4: 1:12:48

They not like us.

Speaker 5: 1:12:52

They not like, us, they not like us us right.

Speaker 3: 1:12:55

so they're there in the mosque, and the reason why she's saying that is because of situations like this, brother. I'm giving you a prime example right now, right here. This is some of the things we talk about in the forum. Look at this picture. They take theI symbol and just place it. Is that Nick Cannon right there? Yes, they take the NOI symbol to promote it with the celebrities, but it's really just the cross. So they're in the church of Scientology, calling it a mosque, tricking the people, bringing the celebrities to come and talk, but it's nothing but sugar on feces wait, hold on man.

Speaker 1: 1:13:41

This is crazy, bro like can I get my bomb?

Speaker 3: 1:13:46

can I get a lion roar? Can I get a lion roar?

Speaker 2: 1:13:49

hold on hold on there, you go Hold on.

Speaker 1: 1:13:57

That's the Zerb. Now we talking right, yo, yo hold on. So they took the Nation of Islam symbol. Just put it over the Scientology. See it Same podium.

Speaker 3: 1:14:10

Same podium, I got a question for you then?

Speaker 1: 1:14:14

Sure, okay, I spoke to Brother Ben. No disrespect to Brother Ben, if you see this. I spoke to Brother Ben X. I asked him did he put, basically, supreme wisdom on cap? Did he memorize supreme wisdom? And he said no, right Now I'm not. I'm not questioning him as a man. I just want to know then what lineage does he come from? Recent islam and all the other brothers and sisters, wesley, muhammad, what lineage? Where do they come from? Okay, do they come from the Scientology lineage? Because that's important to know.

Speaker 3: 1:14:57

Legitimate question. You have brothers like Wazir Islam, who's been in Scientology for 20 plus years before he was an active member of the Nation of Islam. He was a Scientologist Whoa yeah, he was a Scientologist.

Speaker 1: 1:15:10

Scientologist Whoa yeah, he was a Scientologist, we got to stop bro At the end of the day what you're saying. Hold on, I don't mean to cut you off. You just said Risa Islam was a Scientologist for 20 years. Now let's run down a line. We got Wesley Muhammad. Do you know anything About Wesley Muhammad's Um Uh lineage?

Speaker 3: 1:15:42

Yes, I know Wesley Muhammad, true Islam. Yeah, I've known him for years.

Speaker 1: 1:15:46

So true Islam sounds like he came Maybe from the 5% nation.

Speaker 3: 1:15:50

Maybe correct long time. Nation of Islam, absolutely salute to the brother. Yeah, okay, long time. Nation of Islam, absolutely Salute to the brother, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:15:54

Okay, long time. Nation of Islam, yeah, okay. Now I don't know what this means here. Let's see MTTBM, or our savior has arrived as of four years ago. Okay, okay, all right. So Risa Islam Message to the black man M-T-T-B Message to the black man. Okay, all right, now I get it All right. Makes sense, makes sense, all right, now, I get it All right. All right, all right. So so now, risa Islam Wesley Muhammad. Who else is out there From the Nation of Islam? What's his name? 19 Keys Know anything about him?

Speaker 3: 1:16:42

I know a little bit About the brother. He's one of the younger brothers. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1: 1:16:47

What's his affiliation with the Nation of Islam, if he has any?

Speaker 3: 1:16:50

I'm sure he's a know, a longtime supporter of uh, mr louis farrakhan, etc. You know the nation, the final call version of the nation of islam.

Speaker 1: 1:16:58

Final call of the name okay okay, all right, all right, I'm gonna stay here. Uh, because now I want to write stuff down and do my own research, because this was like super deep for me, for sure, and uh, just like uh, sharif bay's last presentation on the wealth gap, this one is blowing my mind as well yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:17:21

No, we can stop here. We'll be able to, you know, continue the conversation. It's all about again. At the end of the day, they're meeting because that's where. That's where that picture was. At the alron hubbard community auditorium, you just saw the same exact background. You just saw them marching towards. They're meeting because that's where. That's where that picture was.

Speaker 3: 1:17:33

At the L Ron Hubbard Community Auditorium, you just saw the same exact background. You just saw them marching towards you in that auditorium. So they're having their meetings at the Church of Scientology, calling it a mosque. But you heard the earlier audio where this same person right there in the red suit said that he was changing the mosque into course rooms. We all heard him say it. Yes, in this presentation. Yes, sir, so they're doing what they said that they were going to do, as in them, converting all of their members into scientologists. Yes, sir, so it's just again, although it was said to the public in 2010 or 20, you know, 2012, you're seeing what's taking place in 2024.

Speaker 3: 1:18:20

Right, so my job is to present the evidence and to let the people weigh it for themselves. You've seen the satanic history. You've seen a man who's commanded his followers to lie. You see their meeting at that man's auditorium. Who commanded the people to lie. You see them placing their symbol directly over the cross, right. So again, you can't explain it away. The people are seeing what the people are seeing. Now it's up to that individual to measure their own character. Are you real, are you a bitch? That's something that you got to answer as an individual, because when somebody gives you the truth, either you're going to embrace it or you're going to reject it.

Speaker 1: 1:19:08

I just want to before we close. I just want to let everyone know. I don't know what's going to happen to this page after these types of presentations, but we have another page, nyp Clips, just in case.

Speaker 3: 1:19:26

No truth is something that's. You know, this is very light. This is not going down the rabbit hole. This is something that's very light. You know, this is very light. This is not going down the rabbit hole. This is something that's very light. You know, I have a book that's already completed. You know, scientology Invasion of the Black Community a match made in hell.

Speaker 3: 1:19:46

I'm just waiting to release it at the proper time, right, but it has the full charts, it has the full chronology. As you can see, I took you from the 50s to the 60s, to the 70s, to the 80s, right up until today. So I'm giving you the whole chronological order, all the key players of the game, the way that I was taught by my teacher, steve Cochran. So I want to thank you so much, brother, for availing your platform Because, again, it takes bravery in order to do so and just to have a conversation, not attacking anyone, right? And whatever the Nation of Islam final call version choose to do with their believers is completely up to them. My job is to serve the Black community, to make sure the expanded community is well-informed, that I can control, that I am responsible for. So they have made their choice Right. My job is to make sure that other people are able to make an informed choice also, and I thank you, brother Ron truly Thank you for coming on.

Speaker 1: 1:20:44

I want to do another one on this same particular subject. You know, so, you know, just uh, guys look out for that. And, just like I said, nyp clips, just in case you know, uh, we have another page, um, you can follow that page. There's nothing on in that right now, nothing really, um, but just in case there's another page. So I want to end this off saying peace to everybody. Thanks for tuning in NYP in the building. Today is the 14th too. Indeed Peace to everybody out there. See y'all on the next one, see y'all Tuesday and we're out of here.