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Will You Survive "I Am Legend": Urban Desolation and the Human Spirit

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Will You Survive "I Am Legend": Urban Desolation and the Human Spirit
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Will You Survive "I Am Legend": Urban Desolation and the Human Spirit
May 24, 2024
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Ever find yourself musing over the survival skills you'd need in a barren New York City, or the psychological battle of facing a world overrun by the infected? That's what we tackle as we dissect the post-apocalyptic universe of "I Am Legend." From the grit of urban survival to the eerie quiet of the woods at night, we're sharing our most vivid insights and personal tales that'll have you reconsidering every shadow.

This episode isn't just about the thrills of a desolate landscape; it's an exploration into the human spirit, the frightening layers of solitude, and the heartwarming solace found in canine companionship amidst chaos. Our discussion swings from the suspenseful to the scientific, mulling over the nuances of maintaining a lab in isolation and the stark realities of resource availability when nature reclaims her turf. The conversation ventures through the moral maze of the protagonist's actions, ties in real-world health debates sparked by a Swedish experiment, and critiques the preparedness of our favorite movie survivalist.

Join us as we recount bone-chilling encounters with the unknown and circle back to the warmth of human (and animal) connection that keeps the fire of hope alive. We're not just breaking down a movie here; we're sharing personal experiences that echo the challenges faced by Robert Neville and analyzing survival strategies that could be the difference between life and death in a world forever changed. Strap in; this journey is anything but typical.

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Ever find yourself musing over the survival skills you'd need in a barren New York City, or the psychological battle of facing a world overrun by the infected? That's what we tackle as we dissect the post-apocalyptic universe of "I Am Legend." From the grit of urban survival to the eerie quiet of the woods at night, we're sharing our most vivid insights and personal tales that'll have you reconsidering every shadow.

This episode isn't just about the thrills of a desolate landscape; it's an exploration into the human spirit, the frightening layers of solitude, and the heartwarming solace found in canine companionship amidst chaos. Our discussion swings from the suspenseful to the scientific, mulling over the nuances of maintaining a lab in isolation and the stark realities of resource availability when nature reclaims her turf. The conversation ventures through the moral maze of the protagonist's actions, ties in real-world health debates sparked by a Swedish experiment, and critiques the preparedness of our favorite movie survivalist.

Join us as we recount bone-chilling encounters with the unknown and circle back to the warmth of human (and animal) connection that keeps the fire of hope alive. We're not just breaking down a movie here; we're sharing personal experiences that echo the challenges faced by Robert Neville and analyzing survival strategies that could be the difference between life and death in a world forever changed. Strap in; this journey is anything but typical.

Speaker 1:

It's just about fucking what syphilis right? No, no, no, it's Crabs, crabs. No yeah, chlamydia.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Wait, no, the clap is crabs. The clap is chlamydia. I think it's crabs.

Speaker 2:

No, I think TJ's right Hang on.

Speaker 3:

No fucking way. The clap has always been crabs.

Speaker 1:

Gonorrhea, gonorrhea, we're all wrong.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we all suck. Yeah, gonorrhea. The fuck Damn. What the fuck did that happen? I don't think. I think you had it wrong, Colloquially known as the clap.

Speaker 1:

The clam and the clap respectively.

Speaker 2:

So chlamydia is the clam God, they really do give it like such a nasty name.

Speaker 1:

Hello survivors and welcome back to another episode of Will you Survive.

Speaker 3:

The Podcast.

Speaker 1:

And today we are talking about the great, the beautiful, the amazing. I Am Legend from 2007. What did you guys think about this movie?

Speaker 3:

Well, first of all, I wonder, do you not even care to introduce yourself to our wonderful survivors out there?

Speaker 1:

No, they know who I am by now, that's true.

Speaker 3:

I don't know that they do. What if there's new people? There are new people every day, by the way. All right.

Speaker 1:

Cut all that. Hello survivors, Welcome back to another episode of Will you Survive.

Speaker 2:

I'm Eric Eric of will you survive.

Speaker 3:

I'm eric, oh my god oh, this is gonna go good right now.

Speaker 1:

That's the intro bit, that's yep, we got it all right, I little do you guys know.

Speaker 2:

I'm not. From this point on, I'm not cutting anything, so it's all staying in, wow you know what this is going to be some creative overriding here. Well, good luck, you got to edit it then.

Speaker 3:

No, I'll just beat you mercilessly.

Speaker 2:

I thought we said we're going to stay away from beating women. Beating women, I can beat you. I'm pulling a Conan. I said what I said. Anyways.

Speaker 1:

I'm Eric, I'm alex and I'm tj and I am your host for today. But like what does that really mean? We don't really host like that. You know, we're all bouncing off each other. I picked the movie, it was my idea, it wasn't nobody else's idea so if it fails, then it's solely on you.

Speaker 3:

So, this being your movie, this is what I'm sure you did. You came up with some relevant, poignant questions regarding survival in the scenario that's presented before us, and you're going to ask us those questions throughout the episode to keep us on topic. Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, so for our survivors out there, just in case there's the rare scenario, do you mind if I read a little storyline recap?

Speaker 1:

I mean you can go right ahead. You know I am the host, but you can do it.

Speaker 3:

I have it open here, so I have it open, so I might as well, you know, like it's just, it's just ready to go.

Speaker 2:

I heard a good host delegates the tasks properly.

Speaker 3:

You know what that's good hosting Great hosting.

Speaker 1:

That's great hosting. Great hosting TJ. All right, alex, you do the thing and you also ask all the questions and we'll bounce off you.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you're killing me, all right. Robert Neville, played by Will Smith, is a scientist who was unable to stop the spread of the terrible virus that was incurable and man-made. In this post-apocalyptic action thriller, lol Immune Neville is now the last human survivor in what is left of New York City and perhaps the world. For three years, neville has faithfully sent out daily radio messages, desperate to find any other survivors who might be out there. But he is not alone. Mutant victims of the plague, the infected, lurk in the shadows watching Neville's every move, waiting for him to make a fatal mistake, perhaps mankind's last best hope. Neville is driven by only one remaining mission mission to find a way to reverse the effects of the virus using his own immune blood. But he knows he is outnumbered and quickly running out of time.

Speaker 2:

thank you, warner brothers pictures for that storyline so I have a quick question what um the the girl and her daughter? I think this is kind of the first like big question how did they survive so long? Oh, that was a son, Ethan. Oh, son.

Speaker 1:

Wow, didn't even watch the movie.

Speaker 2:

I clearly watched this movie. Um, how did they survive so long? No idea, right, don't go out at night. Well, he barely survived and he was like very rigid in his schedule and his survival. So how, how did they survive? A single mom and her son? Right it seems. Uh, I don't know. I'm asking for an explanation from somebody no, there's.

Speaker 3:

There's really no explanation for how they survived. I mean, if you look at him, he was a military expert expert. He planned this out, he had knowledge and he was looking for, he was looking for the cure wide scenarios that he recorded news broadcasts. He uh stocked up on food. He had a laboratory in his basement. So he's he's not some like average joe, like even me, you know three weeks, maybe a month, of food and water, what, what is that going to do in? He was over a thousand days, which is well over three years. He.

Speaker 1:

He also created the virus. That's true, it's his fault.

Speaker 3:

I mean, did he create the virus or was it that?

Speaker 2:

Well, he worked for the military they brought in that lady.

Speaker 1:

It was a cancer thing, wasn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they cured cancer, but at what?

Speaker 3:

cost. It was supposed to be that lady. I think she was played by Emma Thompson. She came in, she was on the news, she was doing that report. You were watching that at the beginning, where she was like we switched this, so it was like going to happen long before it was spoken of publicly, right? So it's already happening and nobody's talking about it publicly and he's put on the case to reverse the effects and he's failing miserably, right so then he's given kind of an impossible task, of course he is, but I mean, nonetheless, failure is failure, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, fix this. You know this. These people did this. You got to fix it, and he's working on it, and he's working on it, and he's working on it. And then it becomes now it's getting out of control. There's more people who are sick. I mean, if you, if you remember what he said, it was over 90% of the world's population died instantly.

Speaker 2:

That's kind of how I think a real zombie apocalypse would go.

Speaker 3:

I feel like they would try to hush it up and keep it quiet until it was already too far gone. If it's something that, okay and I love that you bring, because I prefer the zombie apocalypse. But you can say anything catastrophic, any extinction level event, a meteor coming towards earth that's going to freaking, wipe us out hasn't nasa, yeah, hasn't nasa literally said we wouldn't tell you.

Speaker 2:

They've all said that. What's the point? Well, yeah, because like that is a fair point. What are we gonna do? Do?

Speaker 3:

I mean there's methods they would try but in all honesty, like all of the things they've done in like Deep Impact, bury deep, go into the mountains and go underground, that wouldn't save you. No, not from a catastrophic meteor in the crazy um, the big meteor that killed the dinosaurs, if you will. I think it was over 70 of all life died and the majority of life that remained was at deep ocean level yeah, it's like microorganisms they don't need sun.

Speaker 3:

they don't need oxygen right. They feed off of their bottom feeders, they feed off of plankton and whatnot and there were some fish life that survived not many, probably all deep sea.

Speaker 2:

So, pov, you're a plankton. Do you think you survived the meteor?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, definitely I think I could survive the meteor and I would finally get the Krabby Patty secret formula. Yeah, I don't think you would.

Speaker 2:

I think I would. I think you would, I think I would. I think you have low hopes for us. Nope.

Speaker 3:

You would not get it.

Speaker 2:

I think you're massively underestimating our survival capabilities as a plankton in the ocean.

Speaker 3:

I have no idea what we're even talking about.

Speaker 2:

No, so back to vampires. Is this a SpongeBob reference? Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3:

Okay, all right, can I? Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So I realized. You know this is over three years. He said over a thousand days that this was going on. I've seen plant life in just months grow absolutely insane. So all of the plant life and everything is is realistic to me. I have one like problem with everything after three years, how's he still driving that Mustang?

Speaker 1:

Gas.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, where, where. Where did that come from?

Speaker 1:

All the cars that have been sitting.

Speaker 3:

You realize that gas has a shelf life.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit, no, I didn't realize that. How long is the shelf life?

Speaker 3:

12 months.

Speaker 2:

Uh-oh, he's distilling his own gas.

Speaker 3:

Gas will separate.

Speaker 2:

Is there anything? Can you? On gas, gas will separate. Is there anything can you? This might sound stupid. Can you stir it back together?

Speaker 3:

no, what it does is? It basically turns to lacquer there's gas treatments, though there are, but it only prolongs it a little bit. It does not. It doesn't make it an endless supply wait.

Speaker 2:

So that's actually really tough, because I didn't know that. So that means any apocalypse, after 12 months cars are unusable.

Speaker 3:

Essentially yeah, If you're not refining new fuel.

Speaker 1:

It gets worse and worse. I'm sure a car could still run on 12-month-old gas, but it's going to fuck it up Eventually. All the cars are fucked.

Speaker 2:

Unless you can figure out how to make a water-powered car, but then the us government will kill you.

Speaker 3:

So I mean, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe he found a way well, they clearly didn't show anything like that.

Speaker 3:

People were in cars off of like vegetable oil and shit yeah but like I don't think he did that, I don't think he did not and I more. More importantly, I mean if, if we're really looking at it, look at how clean the car looked, look at how right off the lot although I do get it because, like, let's be real, if we're out during the day, like he was right, these monsters aren't out during the day, which I I said this to eric earlier. I think we all agreed these are closer to vampires than they are zombies yeah, they're, uh, they're vampires, they're dark seekers right.

Speaker 3:

So one thing is, you're standing out in the sunlight. They don't come out in the day I I guess I would be doing stupid stuff like that washing my car and yeah you know I would be doing ridiculous things. And he was.

Speaker 2:

He was he set up mannequins to go to the— Played golf, he played golf, he set up mannequins to go to the video store and he rented movies, which is such a sad scene, honestly, he was going crazy Well, no, that was—so I saw it actually as a way to keep him from going crazy.

Speaker 3:

It is. It was crazy from our perspective, as people who can talk to people, but that was his way of keeping himself from completely fucking snapping and losing his mind and I thought they did a great job in showing how crazy he actually was, knowing how crazy he was when the mannequin, when he saw that mannequin out of place, because he knew like these aren't fucking real people, man, real right, right, right.

Speaker 2:

The way he kept asking. He knew like these aren't fucking real people, man real right right right the way he kept asking. He kept saying like, if you're real, you better fucking say something before I shoot you which it's just an indication of how absolutely crazy he knew he was.

Speaker 3:

Oh right, and he's like, he's like trying to, he's grabbing at reality with his brain, he's just reaching out, like how did you get there? Which is pretty crazy. Because I do like there's some criticisms about this movie that are pretty bad when you think about it, because one of the things they talk about is how he misjudged that whole scene. Right, his thing was gone, and oh, but you said that they lost all humanity. Well, his thing was gone. Oh, but you said that they lost all humanity. Well, yeah, that's true. Non-intelligent blah, blah, blah. What the point was is how wrong he was. He was wrong about everything, and I don't know if you saw it. Did you guys see the alternate ending of this?

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's exactly why I said something about this movie, because I was like, oh you know, there's coming out with a part two.

Speaker 3:

I am legend too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's going by that alternate ending.

Speaker 2:

I know of the alternate ending. I've never seen it.

Speaker 3:

It's really well done.

Speaker 1:

But basically from what I remember of it, because I haven't seen the alternate ending in a minute but main Darkseeker guy, the whole reason he's beefing with uh, the main character is because the dark seeker he has the female one in his basement that he's testing on is main dark seekers like girl yeah so in the alternate ending he kind of just like walks up, picks up his girls, like fuck, fuck you, and leaves Yep.

Speaker 3:

And orders his other dark seekers out, and they followed his lead.

Speaker 2:

Which would be. I think I'm surprised that that failed all the testing for the viewers, because to me that's way more interesting. But I guess we are analyzing it a lot more than a first time viewer would, but like I would see that, as it really does encapsulate everything that he was seeing throughout the whole film that these aren't just completely mindless and that they do have some sort of structure and and hierarchy and priority, in the sense that they were all willing to band together to get this chick back they're all willing to die for each other yeah you know the funny thing I'm gonna say the most, the most controversial thing in this podcast about this movie is they were more human than him a little bit, because he just, he fucking yoinked one

Speaker 1:

and kidnapped.

Speaker 3:

In their eyes, he's the fucking monster and he is, I mean when yeah, you've got it.

Speaker 2:

But so it's also like it kind of goes back to the resort argument, where they are ruthlessly killing every human. So, yeah, they're fighting for their girl to get their kind back. But it also doesn't really excuse the fact that they killed 90% of the population instantly and that 99.99% are dead. They didn't I guess humans did, because we created the.

Speaker 3:

We created this virus by trying to cure cancer.

Speaker 2:

So the moral of the story don't try to cure cancer. Is that what we're?

Speaker 3:

getting at. No, you know what the moral of the story should be.

Speaker 2:

Here.

Speaker 3:

We always talk conspiracy theory on this podcast. Right, here's another one. Cancer is primarily caused by the over-processing and under-nutrient rich food that if we were to go back to our heritage, our ancestry, if we were to go back to growing natural food Sweden, I think it was, who did an experiment and they gave out chickens Two chickens, I believe Two chickens and a rooster Food waste and health increased, food waste reduced and health increased because chickens eat everything. So if you have any leftover you throw it to them.

Speaker 2:

I actually just saw something that was talking about a guy who went to Japan. This was just a social media post, so take it for that. But a guy went to japan and he was asking these students what their favorite foods were and he said he thought he was getting trolled because all the kids were like uh, broccoli or white rice or or some seaweed, some vegetable or something. That's not what you would hear in america pizza yeah, and so your local burritos yeah.

Speaker 2:

So he was like are these like? These are kids, what are they trolling me? And apparently one of the japanese officials was like no, we, we teach our kids to like healthy foods. Do your guys's kids not like healthy foods? I do think japan tends to have a. I think, honestly, a lot of other countries tend to have better nutrition and and health than the united states belgian.

Speaker 3:

Sorry, not sweden. It was a belgian town. They gave out chickens but yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I think it would be a good idea if, uh, more americans went back to traditional farming. But then you kind of fall into the same problem that, like we have where we live in an apartment, there's not really a lot of farming we could really do.

Speaker 3:

I mean, we could grow stuff on our patio but in urban settings I mean, there's things that we could do that aquaponics bro aquaponics you've got um. We have a balcony we could grow like herb gardens and I mean, and you can grow herb gardens in your kitchen, because most herbs don't like a lot of sun yeah.

Speaker 3:

So I guess, yeah, there there is stuff you could do you know, if I was really like, if I was really better at at what I should be doing is, we would be extremely healthy because I would be growing indoor plants and I want to do it. I just I know I don't spend enough time already with my kids, so here, make more time to do other shit, but it's you grow plants indoors and they are better air purifiers than the top gold standard purifier on the market.

Speaker 2:

We just need to get like some ivies.

Speaker 3:

Ivies are great. Most vines, most vines are absolutely great because they suck all of the impurities out of the air.

Speaker 1:

Hear me out, though. Is there anything in your guys' lease saying that you can't have chickens inside the apartment? Sounds like you need chickens, I think uh, I think it falls under the animal it falls under the pets yeah, it falls

Speaker 2:

under the pets, the pets, conundrum now and we also have an hoa. I don't think they'd appreciate that. What if?

Speaker 1:

you made it like a uh, what's it called Emotional support animal? Ha?

Speaker 2:

ha, ha, ha, ha ha. But can the HOA stop us if we build a bat house on the roof?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, a bat roost.

Speaker 2:

I think they could.

Speaker 1:

So, like, what were your thoughts on like the Dark Seekers as seekers, as like like how scary were they to you? You, know.

Speaker 2:

So the scene where he goes into that the first time he goes into a building in the daytime, that is a terrifying scene, honestly. That one always gets my heart pounding. Not so much anymore, but it still is very freaky, and will smith does a really good job portraying that fear of you're walking into their nest. It's pretty freaky. So I think, yeah, pretty fucking scary. And the fact that he has to completely board up his entire house with metal sheets on the windows and all that Bro was prepared.

Speaker 1:

Let's like how that prepared beforehand.

Speaker 2:

So that's what I was thinking, so that's what alex was just talking about, that he was, he was very prepared. But like, did he have these metal blinds on his windows prior to the to the vampires? Because, if so, doomsday prepper, I'm here for it, but what the fuck? But also, if he didn't have it beforehand, what did he just weld them on mid-apocalypse?

Speaker 1:

and aren't. Aren't they like a fucking automatic, like they've just shut? Yeah, they're electric he like clicks a button and they close.

Speaker 2:

Oh wait, no, no, he closed them by hand. Did he close them by hand?

Speaker 1:

like the bathroom ones, he closed by hand hey, uh, hey listeners, I haven't watched the movie okay, yeah, we both have to admit right now we both didn't watch the movie we've seen the movie we've seen it many times.

Speaker 2:

I just haven't watched it within the last week yeah, I'm winging it. We're a little winging it. Don't tell Alex, though. He'll be so upset if he finds out there's another movie that we didn't watch. I don't think we'd ever hear the end of that he'd be really mad so when I watched this movie yesterday it was crazy. But yeah, I really want to know. I want to know. This was a novel, I think before it was a movie.

Speaker 2:

So I want to know if they ever explained that if he made all these safety procedures on his house Also all the lights I kind of assume all the lights he would have done it prior or after.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it might have been because he's a military virologist, so he's working on viruses and shit in his basement, so I assume he has his basement way before I can see that If any virus got uncontained somehow, somehow he has the shutters and shit just in case well, yeah, that was kind of something we were just talking about it, where they he was asked to, he was tasked with fixing this, with trying to come up with some sort of cure, so I assume, for the safety of his kid at the time he was like, well, fuck, while I work on this, I'm also gonna. I know what this virus is like, I know what it's going to do, I know their weaknesses. I'm just gonna set up some safety procedures just in case, you know. Set up the lights, set up the shutters.

Speaker 2:

But, I don't know. Part of me thinks that he did it after the outbreak, but that doesn't seem the lights I could see after. But the shutters I feel like are necessary from day one, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Let's go back to like their nest. They were like all huddled together. What the fuck was that? A group fucking like, shaking, breathing. That was. Yeah that's hella fucking freaky.

Speaker 2:

And the fact that they're smart too, and the way he was covering his light and like trying to shine it through. That whoo, yeah, that, that whole scene. Who was the director of this movie?

Speaker 1:

because that was that was masterful uh, the director of this movie was francis lawrence.

Speaker 2:

He did hunger games, catching fire oh shit, okay, I like that movie too and mocking jay I like that one less. No, I'm kidding um I, I think the uh, that was very masterful, the way, the way that, uh, that scene was shot. It was very scary and it made me oh man, it made me so upset with that dog. Why the fuck would you do that?

Speaker 1:

in a survival situation. I don't know why you wouldn't like just leave the dog at home.

Speaker 2:

Well, the dog was his companion and his partner, and I assume the dog helped a lot. True, but like I wouldn't leave the dog at home, If it's not trained to like not go.

Speaker 1:

Well, it was.

Speaker 2:

Because it kind of just dipped off, but it was. That was the thing. It was so weird that the dog did that.

Speaker 1:

See, because it's an unpredictable ass dog, so I don't know why you wouldn't just leave it at home.

Speaker 2:

Well, okay. So here's the thing this wasn't like just some house dog, like he definitely trained this dog the way that it stuck by him when they were out, when they were hunting, the way that the dog was chasing down the deer. Oh, that's what it was. It was chasing on the deer.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

So it it got itself into it, accidentally ran into a situation it wasn't prepared for, and then it it, like a dog, it average intelligence of a three-year-old. It panicked a little bit and just hid but it put him in a really fucked situation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he just needed a better recall for that dog. Yeah, he did that. That is kind of a thing. That's something that I have been thinking. If I what we've talked about, like, what would your purpose be, what would your role be in a zombie apocalypse? Genuinely, I think, some sort of animal handler like. I think, having a dog companion, a well-trained dog companion, in a zombie apocalypse it would be, oh my God.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think that would be invaluable because you would have an alarm if you're not able to pay attention. Let's say we are in the situation that we talked about. You're shooting off rounds with your bare ears. You're partially deaf by this point, Having a dog letting you know you know a dog bark is more than just a shuffle, and a right dog barks at you and you turn able to see this thing coming up behind you.

Speaker 2:

It's also another set of eyes.

Speaker 3:

Another set of eyes Also. I mean, let's be real, it's a companion in a time where companionship is going to be at an all-time low.

Speaker 2:

That's what TJ was just talking about. He was saying, like, why bring the dog? Because we were talking about when the dog ran into the dark building, like why bring the dog? And I was saying the dog was definitely trained, the dog was well-trained, it was chasing that deer Yep and it just locked on too hard. And he's right, tj's right, it should have had better recall and I think that that kind of is a discrepancy in that the dog was clearly very well-trained but didn't have the recall to back out of that situation. But again, you're dealing with a dog.

Speaker 3:

I could totally see that happening which I like what you said Temperament of a three-year-old which average intelligence average intelligence. It makes a lot of sense because I think, I mean, I think you're right, I think, even with the training, you've got everything down what I heard. Uh, uh, the dog runs in and is too far in to extract and hides it realizes like oh shit, I fucked up right and it has to it.

Speaker 2:

Just it cowers like oh fuck, I don't, I'm, I don't know what to do now yeah and so it hides fight, flight or freeze.

Speaker 3:

It's a universal uh theory amongst all living animals and I think the dog must be well aware.

Speaker 1:

What was the dog's name?

Speaker 2:

Samantha, this is another movie that would get me crying.

Speaker 1:

I loved it. I loved that dog. That made me want a German Shepherd. I don't blame you.

Speaker 3:

I don't blame you, and I mean. The second component which made me more sad was the fact that this was his daughter's gift to him. Oh yeah, played by willow smith, by the way, he loves putting his kids in movies yep, I didn't know that that's actually that was also his son in um what's that stock market one he did uh, I knew that pursuit of happiness pursuit of happiness. That's a great. His son was in that and his daughter was in this. It was pretty good. It was pretty good.

Speaker 1:

It was a great movie. I love it. But yeah, better temperament for your dog. Homie, Just leave your dog at home. I get it.

Speaker 3:

You love it. By the way, I think in that scene where he killed the dog, I heard a critic on YouTube complaining about him strangling the dog in a weird way. I understand that method better than using a gun, using a knife, using anything, it's like well, he snapped the neck it's the set.

Speaker 2:

No, no, he strangled it did you not snap the neck? No?

Speaker 3:

it was not quick. It was not that quick. It was quick, it wasn't that quick.

Speaker 2:

I thought he stabbed him, no, he hugged it, he held it and strangled it. I do remember it now, that's why you heard the feet. Yeah. The claws clicking on the ground, God I can't even imagine, but it's like to me.

Speaker 3:

that's why I said I slipped.

Speaker 2:

Because to me it was like hugging it to death. Yeah, it was completely involuntary in a sense that like, not that he didn't know what he was doing, but he by no means wanted to do that. He was destroyed by it. Honestly, to me that would be worse than just dying I get it I.

Speaker 3:

That would be so painful because, like we said, you're losing your companion but I mean, I think the, the writers and the director followed a logical conclusion there, because after he lost sam he went virtually suicidal if he didn't, if those two.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was ready to kill himself if the the mother and the son I mean he wanted to take out as many of them as he could.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if the mother and son didn't find him.

Speaker 2:

He was just gonna. He was just gonna end it and take as many as he could as a matter of perspective.

Speaker 3:

you guys, once again you said it earlier he was the monster he went and killed a whole bunch of, even though they were stalking him, you know. But but if you, if we were people and we're I mean we are people, but we're hunting a monster and that monster sees us hunting, it, tricks us and starts killing us. We don't forgive it for being a monster and killing Right, we want it dead, all the more so. It was very interesting to see that and for you guys to lay that perspective. He was the monster to them with the alternate ending theory have you guys?

Speaker 2:

have you guys ever considered that humans are the skinwalkers of?

Speaker 1:

earth. Well yeah, we wear other animals pelts.

Speaker 2:

That's not even what I mean besides that, and the animal calls.

Speaker 2:

We mimic animal calls do you know how terrifying humans must be to? I didn't realize this. Like I know we use animal calls. I know what we. I'm a human, I know what we do. But I watched this guy. His piglet was running away and so he starts. He starts oinking and you see the piglet kind of get confused and then start running towards him and as soon as it gets within range he snatches up the piglet and it just starts squeaking and squealing and getting all terrified. And it made me think, like holy crap, he tricked that piglet into thinking he was a pig.

Speaker 1:

We're the skinwalkers of the earth, that's so terrifying so true, was a pig and we're the skinwalkers of the earth. That's so terrifying, so true.

Speaker 2:

imagine you're in the dark in the woods and you just hear hello yeah, it would be the equivalent of that hi hello, I'm over here, and then you get there and it's a fucking animal.

Speaker 3:

Oh my god, that would be dude humans are creepy so I've I've had one of those events.

Speaker 2:

Where you've heard something call out to you.

Speaker 3:

Something spoke English and nothing was there. Was it a parrot? I mean maybe.

Speaker 1:

It was night. You're in the woods and you just come across a parrot Speaks full English. Someone's parrot got out.

Speaker 3:

That would be so much more comforting if that was the case, right?

Speaker 2:

You could just pretend what happened, though.

Speaker 3:

I made all kinds of excuses for what it was. So we're out backpacking, we're up in the woods, we're down here and it's still in Southern California. It's nice and warm. This was summertime. Nice and warm, I mean. Not even sleeping bags. We fashioned ourselves cots and no need for a sleeping bag. And it doesn't even start to get cold until dawn. So we lit a fire and we would just move closer to the fire as it as the night wore on and we're laying there. You know, we had we. We ate our fish. We always did it.

Speaker 3:

It was like I don't know if you guys ever saw the movie stand by me yeah preteens go out looking for a body and they're camping out overnight and they hawk some cigarettes from their parents. That was us. So we snag some cigarettes and we're we're smoking some, some cigarettes and talking and starting to get quiet. You know, both of us are starting to fall asleep. It's getting late enough and fire is. We're keeping it stoked and hot, we're throwing fresh logs on it and as we both start getting more and more quiet, you start listening to the sounds of nature and you're hearing the crickets and you're hearing all that. And there's something that always happens when creepy shit occurs and I don't know if you've ever been in the woods when it happens, but it gets eerily quiet, always when a predator is around and everything stops, birds stop, and it's the weirdest thing, because I don't know why we do it. But your natural reaction is to say listen, do you hear that? And the actual matter is nothing.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's the problem. There's nothing. Do you hear that? No, I don't.

Speaker 3:

That's the problem nothing. Do you hear that? And no, I don't. That's the problem. It got so quiet that you could hear the planes in the sky that were going over. I'm like what the fuck is that? So I'm thinking logically we have mountain lions, we have bobcats and we have bears. There's something stalking you and.

Speaker 3:

But I've never heard the wildlife get like the insects. Get that quiet for those animals. Right, that's not their prey. Crickets don't care about mountain lions, they don't get quiet for them. They're not hunted by them, we are hunted by them. But and I'm trying to think like, oh man, this could be, and we have these. This is, this is 1920s. Tj'm kidding.

Speaker 2:

This is 1990s, no 1930s, in the trenches of World War I 1990s. No, you were born in 1920. Obviously, you weren't back. It was 1940.

Speaker 3:

This was a big deal in the 90s.

Speaker 1:

Right before World War II.

Speaker 3:

There were big flashlights. Big flashlights. They looked nothing like they do today. That were one million candle power and you turn that frigging thing on and it lights up everything.

Speaker 2:

You have the sun.

Speaker 3:

And I'm looking for. You're looking for eyeballs, right? Bears have one color Lions, cats are yellow, so that's what I'm looking for. I'm not really too concerned with bears. We don't have grizzlies down here, so bears will run away if you make enough noise and scare them enough and blah, blah blah.

Speaker 2:

If everything gets quiet, including insects, my mind is immediately going demon. I didn't want to think that it I didn't want to think supernatural in insects will not go silent for a predator that we would be scared of.

Speaker 3:

So if everything goes silent in my eyes, that's all of god's creatures going fuck that, fuck it, I'm out and that's that's way worse to me and I'm, I'm, I'm shining this light all around and I'm looking for anything. And as I'm shining around and I, I, I saw something and I went, I mean, I went past it and then I went back and I couldn't see it. And I'm looking at it, I'm, I'm pointing my light right in that area, and my buddy was daring enough that he walked right over there. He's looking, he's like now there's something there, there was something. I saw it too.

Speaker 3:

I saw it too, and he's walking over there and I'm holding the light right on him and right then we heard it hello. I was like nope, nope, come back, come back. And we backed up, we backed our backs against the wall and we're looking at at out, at everything. And I looked at him and I was like it's like a three mile hike out, do we go? And he was like I, I think, I think we're better staying put, let's keep the fire, hot fire lit and just keep a watch.

Speaker 2:

Be ready to fight.

Speaker 3:

And so I actually stayed up for the first part.

Speaker 1:

No, I was going to say it's scarier to walk through the fucking forest.

Speaker 3:

It was scarier. That's what I said. It was so much scarier to walk out.

Speaker 2:

I would have been up all fucking night, but I would have stayed put, I'd have pulled a resort, I would have fucking, I would have been up all fucking night, but I would have stayed put, I'd have pulled a resort, I'd have fucking sat on top of the car we took.

Speaker 3:

Uh, we didn't have a car with us.

Speaker 2:

We were three miles away. I, I would have yeah, I would have done exactly what you guys did.

Speaker 3:

I just fucking stayed up all night fucking watching and we, we just stayed there and it was like it was the most bizarre thing, because now I mean I wanted to think things like cockatiel parrot, something, but nothing that's native, didn't?

Speaker 3:

sound right. You know what a parrot sounds like. It doesn't matter how great the wording is from the parrot where you're like, wow, that's so impressive, it doesn't matter, you know what it sounds like. And when. This I'd like to say my panic, my everything distorted my reason and my logic, and I was 13 years old.

Speaker 2:

Well, my only argument there would be that in the woods, with that much echo and bounce and it's really easy that you could mishear something. Not in a sense that I don't think you heard what you heard, but I think it's easy that you could hear a parrot say something and in a wood setting you wouldn't realize that it's a, that you could hear, like a parrot say something and in a wood setting you wouldn't realize that it's a parrot.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean I mean, we were already afraid. So it's like any, and I think about it, I try to rationalize, like there was so many things that had me so afraid, but the the things that we kept going back to, is all of it's unreasonable for all of the insects to go cry quiet, and it was probably about two hours later that everything came back to life and so you had an actual encounter with this with a skinwalker I mean, I don't know that feels pretty certain to me, I think.

Speaker 1:

Here's my theory about everything going quiet right. So like everything in the woods are like like on some like animated movie shit. They're all friends right, and they they hear fucking bill, the fucking bobcat, come through and they're like, oh shit, yo, everybody get quiet. Bill's about to fuck some people up.

Speaker 2:

So that's why they're watching, yeah, yeah, they're getting their popcorn.

Speaker 1:

They're watching the previews, but also I would. I would shit myself if that happened to me.

Speaker 3:

You know what? No, I'll go with that, because any answer is better than what I was thinking.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's the unfortunate reality. Bobcats don't say hello, neither do mountain lions.

Speaker 1:

I was also going to bring up mountain lions. When they're making their noise, a lot of the times it can sound like women screaming. I've seen videos like shitload of videos of like mountain lions or whatever, and whenever they like, do their call or whatever their growl or whatever. It sounds like like a female screaming and it freaks me the fuck out. So imagine you're just in the woods and in the distance, you just hear ah, ah you know screaming Well.

Speaker 2:

So here's the thing. If you don't know that, that's what a mountain lion can sound like. I could definitely see you being freaked out. But knowing that, if I heard that, I would actually feel comforted, because if you hear a mountain lion, it's not hunting you. You will not see a mountain lion coming.

Speaker 3:

Do you know that the mountain lion number one mountain lions were always known as the ghost of the mountain Lion?

Speaker 2:

number one. Mountain lions were always known as the ghost of the mountain. Yeah, you won't see them coming. If they're hunting you, you will not see them. So if you see one, oh, I feel way more comfortable.

Speaker 3:

No, if you see one, you're in a lot of danger because most likely it's either sick or it's deranged.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean more like if I hear it in the distance, that's much better to me, that I at least know where it is. It's still not great. I'd rather not be an eyesight or earshot of a mountain lion, but do you know what else?

Speaker 3:

um makes a lot of noise. That is really terrifying in the wild coyotes.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, they do yeah there was a.

Speaker 3:

There was a time I I was out with. This is going to get controversial. I was out with my ex and we're in Arizona and I hear the coyotes and I'm smoking out in the front yard. It's a fenced yard but it's a low fence, so coyotes can jump well over six feet, no problem. And I'm listening to it and she know what is that. I was like, oh, that's coyotes. She was like should we go inside? I was like, nah, it's, it's not a problem, they're not hunting us. How do you know? So, because they're all isolated to our right, we can hear all of them there. If they're hunting us, you're going to start to hear them circle us Right. And you know, know, we're sitting outside talking blah, blah, blah. I'm still smoking.

Speaker 3:

And then all of a sudden, I start hearing it around the corner and then I'm hearing it behind me and I was like we should go inside. Now. She was like why? I was like you don't hear that she's all. No, I was like, yeah, we should go inside now it's dangerous they're starting to come around and I don't think it was us. There were dogs all in the area that were barking.

Speaker 2:

I was like but you don't want to be, they're hunting dogs like they were.

Speaker 3:

They were trying to get some dogs to chase them oh, I was gonna say I would absolutely beam.

Speaker 1:

A coyote comes up to me.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, dead one punch I've kind of okay. Genuinely, do you guys think you could take on a single coyote?

Speaker 1:

yes, no doubt I think I could too there was a dog, um pretty sure his name was ghost killed 15 of them, yeah oh, I know the story and then hunted the last two yeah, sure, because they were fucking with his girl, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I remember that story.

Speaker 3:

You want to know something really funny close to home, my dog, you know my dog uh fucked up a coyote so she's not a big husky either. She was not a huge husky she was only like 50 pounds at this.

Speaker 2:

She was the runt of the litter yep, and super, super slender.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I kept her running all the time so she was really slender in her young years?

Speaker 2:

she was, but she was a monster, oh damn fast and strong.

Speaker 3:

Right she had that slim waist but that broad upper body right sled dog sled dog she could pull man and those hind quarters were tough as hell. And we were at my folks place and there's in the backyard there's a big hill right and the coyotes roam and the backyard never had a fence. Now I kept my husky run well enough that she never wandered off and if she did she always went to the front yard.

Speaker 2:

She would go down the hill around to the front yard.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she was funny, but the coyotes were antagonizing her and they do this to the dogs.

Speaker 2:

They want them to chase.

Speaker 3:

They'll send one and they try to get them to chase, and then they take it back to the pack and fuck them up. Well, I also have another dog.

Speaker 2:

My mom had another dog in the backyard as well misty, misty was an old girl but she was, she was tough. I feel like she could fuck she was. She was one of those mutts that you're like, you're old, but I think if you got into a scrap the other dog would regret it.

Speaker 3:

She was, she was part shepherd, part husky, part lab. Like she had a lot of mutt in her, but the the husky and the shepherd really stood out. The floofiness and the coloring. Um, there may have been some chow chow in there too, cause she had some the black tongue.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Um, but she, uh. I hear this yelping and screaming down the hill. I look outside, I shine the flashlight and I see my dog down the hill. I can't see what she's got. I run outside. I see my dog, misty, standing at the top just looking out at the street, and I can't see, um, I can't see exactly what she's looking at until I look down. I see my dog fighting with a coyote. I go down there and I grab my dog and I'm pulling her right she's just locking the hell onto this fucking coyote and I'm pulling her off of this coyote. I finally get her to let go and the coyote runs away. And when I see the coyote runs up the street and I see this pack of coyotes go running in the streetlight I saw him go under the the streetlight, right at the top of the hill and right. When I saw them run by and I see that's what misty is sitting there staring, looking at them going fucking, dare you to join what I deduce Now.

Speaker 3:

This is, of course, pure speculation, ok, but the facts speak. My dog got one of them, and the other coyotes did not come and get my dog, and I think it's because the two dogs together could probably take out a number of them, and so they weren't willing to come and try.

Speaker 2:

No, they weren't going to risk more numbers for one coyote so it was just like sorry, bro yeah, that one coyote was supposed to drag skyla to the group, but she was too fast she got to that dog before, like I think that coyote thought it could outrun her, but no way, she's a

Speaker 1:

husky, oh dude, she got there so fast that coyote was probably like it's jumping me. Hey, I need help Send backup.

Speaker 2:

Send backup Misty's on the hill. She's like yeah.

Speaker 1:

Send backup.

Speaker 2:

I wish a motherfucker would, and they're like I don't even know Jake that well bro, he's new to the pack.

Speaker 3:

I don't even know that guy really Misty was. So what is the right word?

Speaker 2:

Temperate she Misty was, so what is the right word Temperate, like she was just so calm.

Speaker 3:

She was a very well-mannered dog, but if she lost her shit, you knew it, like my dog would try. My dog would try to mount her. She would do fucking stupid shit and Misty would just like whatever, whatever, whatever. But then when she tried to mount her which I didn't learn until much later from Cesar Milan, that's a dominance thing.

Speaker 2:

And from caesar milan. That's a dominance thing and misty would not have it.

Speaker 3:

She said fuck you, you're not my you're not gonna dominate me as strong as as strong as skyla was. Misty just thrashed her one time no, because misty was a scrapper I was like all right, sorry, and skyla's too.

Speaker 2:

Skyla was too purebred for to be a scrapper like she's an indoor dog mist was.

Speaker 1:

I've never had any big dogs. I was at my mom's house today. This was filmed on Mother's Day, yay.

Speaker 3:

Happy Mother's Day. All the mothers Happy Mother's Day mother.

Speaker 1:

Hit me up, don't? So I was at my mom's house.

Speaker 3:

My number is hey, watch out, my mom's listening to this. I'm not trying to hook up listening to this, I'm just fucking with you, I'm fucking with you.

Speaker 1:

She has all our dogs and um, I left my dog with her when I moved in with maddie, but they're all small dogs. I got a chihuahua, that's peaches. I got marshall. He's a japanese chen Terrier mix, so he looks like a Laga Bologna on like chopsticks for legs. He can't breathe either. Wait, he's a what mix? Japanese Chen or Chen or?

Speaker 2:

something does he have like the short snout.

Speaker 1:

He has a shorter snout like than normal, because he's Terrier too so wait, does the jaw protrude past the nose?

Speaker 2:

no, oh okay, so he's got the smushed face, he's got the like the bulldog.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, not like fully bulldog, but he has.

Speaker 3:

He has a snout yeah, that's what I was thinking. Doesn't bulldog the lower chin like protrude past the nose?

Speaker 2:

well, so, like english bulldog it's less to do with the mouth, more to do with the nose. The nose is so pushed in. It's the same thing with like pugs and and is that why they're like? Frenchies.

Speaker 1:

It's why they they make all those fucking.

Speaker 2:

They can't breathe, and often they need sinus surgery that costs you thousands. That's why, like I don't ever want to own a frenchie or anything like, that that's what I was getting to.

Speaker 1:

So because he's japanese chen and they got the squished face, so he's like less squished, like he's if a normal dog got hit with a frying pan a little bit so like a, probably like tom and jerry, smacked in the face one to two inch like nose and he has breathing problems and he's younger than peaches, but he has way more gray on his face and I'm pretty sure it's from the struggle, from not being able to breathe, dude, every fucking breath is a struggle.

Speaker 1:

We call him Snorty Morty all the time because that's all he does.

Speaker 3:

So now that we've deviated so far off. I want to know I think we basically just answered this question If we had our dog with us and we're alone for a thousand days.

Speaker 2:

Chance, he's dead.

Speaker 3:

Oh, not just that, not just that. Let's just assume that your dog survived with you the whole way through, right? You have your dog, your dream dog, and your dog dies. Like you have to kill your dog, are you as suicidal as him? Me, I think yes.

Speaker 2:

I think I'm more suicidal than him, but I don't know how you can get more.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would be suicidal at the start.

Speaker 3:

Long before. Yeah, Wait, you are now.

Speaker 1:

I would take the dog out with me.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't know, having a dog, I would take the dog out with me. Well, I don't know, having a dog, I would take the dog out with me You're going to pass by that.

Speaker 3:

I am going to walk right by it.

Speaker 1:

I'll have the dog's head right next to my head and I'll just what. If you miss, I'll use the grenade he had at the end, okay, I'll have the gun. I'll pull the pin of the grenade, drop it, and then I'll have our heads lined up and, just in case, the dog survives the grenade goes off.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so that way, if you cowered out the grenade's going anyway, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

I mean I wouldn't. To be honest, I couldn't kill a dog ever.

Speaker 3:

Okay, but if it's going to go through that, well you're gonna leave it like that.

Speaker 2:

No, no, okay, no, no, no. If it was infected, I totally understand it like I would do what he did, and at the end of it, what I was saying is, like I understand that pure rage, yeah, of fuck it. I I don't even care anymore. I, I want to die. Yep, I'm gonna take as many of you fuckers out with me as I can. Yep, you killed my dog and I. I totally understand that and I think that's completely justified. I don't think I would have survived, to be honest.

Speaker 3:

Uh, because after that, fuck it, I don't even want to live anymore I have such a hard time understanding, like if I'm, if I'm not, robert neville and a a colonel, lieutenant colonel in the military, and with profound medical knowledge and scientific background, that I'm capable of doing this kind of stuff to keep myself busy. No way am I surviving this. I don't see the solitude. You know that? Solitary, yeah Well, and that too.

Speaker 2:

He's immune and he had insider knowledge of how the virus acted. I don't think like if you're not him, you have to learn quickly that they don't like UV light and the ways that you can get infected and the fact that you should be shuttering your windows and everything at night. Like if you don't just already know that stuff from day one. Your odds of survival are so incredibly low.

Speaker 3:

Which is interesting because I think a lot of downplay of criticism of this movie, the downplay of him in this brownstone doing all of this research in the basement, blah, blah blah. There's a lot of criticism over it Like, oh, how does he have this whole laboratory in the basement? Blah, blah, blah. Number one he knows what equipment he needs. Number two you're not under attack during the day.

Speaker 2:

So that was something we were talking about while you were gone. He was a military virologist. Yeah, tj was thinking that he might have already had a lab in his house. I actually I agreed with you earlier, but I actually don't think so. I think he put the lab together, like you were saying, during the day, because he realized well, I have the whole day to move shit, I, and he has this truck apparently for forever, so he could easily grab equipment.

Speaker 3:

I read something, okay I read it even disproved me. We're going for truth here, not just fucking nonsense.

Speaker 2:

I like my feelings more, but okay, no no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3:

Neville is able to drive around the city after three years of isolation. Gas starts degrading in three months in the tank of a car, but in a closed tank, such as those at a gas station, it can be kept for several years. The degradation is due to the fact that it evaporates and mixes with oxygen, but that doesn't happen in an airtight tank.

Speaker 2:

So well, I guess that's kind of. The question is how much gas do you guys think would be remaining in stations?

Speaker 3:

A lot, you know, I think it would have been because it was New York City, I think it would have been a lot, because nobody was how fast it was driving. Everybody was running.

Speaker 2:

I think how it kind of is on the same line of zombies to me. I think it's actually unrealistic how in most zombie movies, like all the gas tanks are empty and stuff. I think that's pretty unrealistic because I think a mass majority of the population dies on day one.

Speaker 3:

And can I tell you why that's not accurate?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think all that gas is just going to be in cars or in the stations, and I think people are going to die at the stations trying to fill their cars. I think there's going to be a ton of gas left behind and then you kind of got to.

Speaker 3:

You think about scavengers, but how much gas could they take? Let me just. The only reason why I say that's actually not accurate is because all of the gas stations count. All of the gas stations we have just in our city. Right, they get refilled usually every day, if not every other day. So by the end of the day they're already depleted.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I thought they got filled way less than that and I got this information from somebody who actually manages several gas stations, and many of them are in our area.

Speaker 2:

Damn, it's like every day.

Speaker 3:

I didn't know that they got trucks that often.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was like once a week.

Speaker 3:

No, their tanks don't hold that much.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, well, it also costco refills every day. Okay, but you're thinking that costco sees hundreds of cars every day?

Speaker 3:

but they also have much larger tanks than most gas stations yeah, so that's kind of the thing I think.

Speaker 2:

If you think of all the gas stations around, there's got to be fuel. But see okay. I can see, like a year after a year or after two years, gas starts becoming really scarce.

Speaker 3:

But the first year If you, okay, just do a little bit of research on this and look back into the 70s. There was a gas shortage. Look up what happened. There were runs on gas stations and it was incredibly fast how it happened. So it doesn't take that many people, especially when you're talking about major metropolitan areas. You're not going to have this in small rural areas that have full gas tanks and rarely do they have somebody go by. On our way up to Las Vegas you go through Baker. There's those gas stations. They every now and again have people who stop and get gas but they charged, I mean back when gas was 359 a gallon.

Speaker 3:

Do you remember we paid 529, right?

Speaker 2:

so I don't remember that, but I do believe it because I mean I have a pretty good memory it's prime gas station spot. Well, I don't remember because I was zonked out of my mind you're okay, we were on our way back I think I was just trying to deal with the fact that the car smelled like my vomit I was.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I was paying attention.

Speaker 3:

Throwback to last episode but now I don't know what it is now coming down. The 15 from uh, from baker, any of our survivors are like seven who've? Been on the 15 from las vegas to los angeles and you can tell us what the gas is. Where is it most expensive along the 15? Baker, bakersfield or, I'm sorry, not bakersfield, uh, barstow, um well, apple valley. Where is it the most expensive all the way down?

Speaker 2:

let us know those are prime spots because you have to get gas. If you're gonna go to vegas you have to get. You're driving through a fucking desert, that's it. If you're on like, you're on like, uh what? Like an eighth of a tank, and you're like, fuck, I'm not gonna make it, and then you see a gas station that's like eight dollars a gallon, you're like well, fuck, I guess I'm getting half a tank at eight dollars a gallon remember the real estate agents.

Speaker 2:

Uh motto right, location, location location, location, that's also um achmed's so achmed uh, achmed the dead terrorist.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm sorry, I forgot about suicide bomb.

Speaker 2:

Training is all about location, location location.

Speaker 1:

Wait till I get a car to run on sand. Just wait once I get a car to run on sand. Just wait Once I get a car to run on sand. Nobody's ever going to have that issue again. Why sand? I don't know, it's prevalent. You're driving through a desert. You got to get to Las Vegas.

Speaker 3:

I thought you were doing a throwback to Fallout. That's actually funny, because he was trying to build a water filter for sand and he was like no matter how much sand I put in it, not a drop of water comes out oh no, no, all their cars ran on fucking nuclear, but you should.

Speaker 1:

You should know that our desert out here does not have sand it is a lot of dirt clay, I don't know yeah, it's a lot of dirt.

Speaker 2:

It's like arizona. It's not sand, it's our whole area. Our whole area used to be. It's a lot of dirt, it's like.

Speaker 3:

Arizona. It's not sand, it's just dirt. Our whole area used to be a riverbed that went all the way out to the ocean.

Speaker 2:

You know what filled recently and you chose to live there, baker Death. Valley it filled. It was a fucking lake.

Speaker 3:

I think it might be gone now, but when we had that flood that came through.

Speaker 2:

It was a lake and people went to go see it because it's the first time it's been filled in, I think like over a century. It was like a mirror it was insane that water was so clear I do, I do.

Speaker 3:

It was beautiful. I really do wish I had more motivation to do that kind of shit, because I would have driven up there just to take pictures. That would would have been awesome, yeah. So one thing that I would like to say, a little off topic here, but relevant to the podcast, not relevant to I Am Legend. All of you survivors out there who are listening, please give us a rating on the podcast that you listen on. We'd love to see your feedback. We want to hear what your take is. Send us your emails, let us know if there's any topics you would like us to cover, because we'd love your ideas and we want to give you what you want.

Speaker 3:

Our whole point here is to try to help you get prepared for the apocalypse, or the zombie apocalypse more specifically, which will protect you in any kind of situation, and we want to see how we can help you better. How can you get prepared? What are the things that you're lacking in? What do you feel like you need more preparation on? Do you need more fortification of your house, more fortification of your food supply, your water supply? Let us know, please, and you can send us your emails to theboysatwillsurvivethepodcastcom, to theboys at willyousurvivethepodcastcom. You can check out all of our socials on TikTok, instagram, facebook, willyousurvivethepodcast. Sorry, tj, I did change Twitter or X to the Boys. That's our name, the Boys but it's still Alex and Eric. I don't think I can change the name, the at.

Speaker 2:

At Alex and Eric.

Speaker 3:

W-Y-S. Let's be honest't, I don't think I can change the name.

Speaker 2:

Uh, the at so at alex and eric wys, let's be honest, I don't think we have much of a following on x, it is true, so I think we can just delete it and do another one oh, that's not bad, that's not bad. Why don't we just make another one? Why don't we that platform has?

Speaker 1:

like what I said, if we post porn then we'll get like hella followers. That that's actually true with X.

Speaker 2:

That's what.

Speaker 1:

X is for now, bro, I'm 100%. It's just porn.

Speaker 2:

It's a new Tumblr. Okay, we'll try.

Speaker 3:

You know what? How disgusting would it be if we started doing zombie porn, just fucking like Army of the Dead and Zombieland Step zombie I'm stuck, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Step zombie zombie I'm stuck zombie you know what we'll do that stuck in the spike trap.

Speaker 3:

But until I do it's still alex and eric at wys or at alex and eric wys and our pinterest. We do have a lot of survival gear, our bailout bags. I have a whole whole section there that we have for uh build your own bailout bags and you guys can go check it out. So if you're interested in uh prepping yourself, all of these survival tips, techniques and supplies are good for not only the zombie apocalypse but earthquakes, earthquakes, floods, fires, anything you can think of all of these disasters. It's going to prepare you for anything, including I Am Legend, even though I honestly will say I don't survive this because I'm not going to last a thousand days or over three years with this insanity of solitary, you know, isolation I don't know, I think so I agree.

Speaker 2:

Actually I do agree. I don't think. I think if you think you survive this, you're delusional. But also, a single mom and her son somehow survived for three years on their own. There's a lot of. I want a movie that says how the fuck they survived I just think I'm nuts.

Speaker 1:

I think I'm nuts there's a lot of reasons I would be going I would be going after.

Speaker 3:

I'm okay. You guys were talking about purpose. What's your purpose? I probably have the lowest life expectancy in a zombie apocalypse are you kidding me?

Speaker 2:

no, no, I really do. I really do Out of the two of us.

Speaker 3:

I think, with your new purpose, I think there's a reason to keep you alive longer.

Speaker 2:

I think I'm, I think, animal expert is not a great purpose to have in the zombie apocalypse.

Speaker 1:

Truth be told, I guess we'll be taking care of him once he gets older, can you?

Speaker 3:

imagine oh, what the fuck Shots fired older, can you imagine?

Speaker 1:

oh, what the fuck shots fired. No, I don't want that job actually, I'd rather just die.

Speaker 3:

I'm kidding wow, wow, fuck you. I wiped your ass for how long you?

Speaker 2:

can wipe mine. Yeah, but you didn't have to deal with zombies on top of that, so that's a lot really vampires.

Speaker 3:

Do you know who I had to deal with?

Speaker 2:

yes, look worse than zombies she didn't eat you, she ate my soul. That I think we're getting deep, it's true, but we're getting deep but will you survive?

Speaker 1:

find out next episode, if I may here host?

Speaker 3:

that is the question. All of you survivors, please hit us up, Let us know. Will you survive? I am legend.

Speaker 1:

And until then stay alive. Thank you you.

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