040: Reflecting on the College World Series with Odicci Alexander

With the Women's College World Series starting this weekend, we thought we would release our Guest Speaker conversation with 2021's WCWS break-out star, Odicci Alexander. Odicci  is currently a professional pitcher for Athletes Unlimited. She played her college career at JMU where she lead her team to their first ever College World Series appearance. In 2023 she was the individual points winner for Athletes Unlimited.

Episode Highlights:

• Odicci's recruiting journey
• How she taught herself to pitch
• What it was like going up against OU in the World Series
• Advice she would give to her younger self

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome to the fearless warrior podcast, a place for athletes, coaches and parents who know the value of a strong mindset. I'm your host, coach AB, a mental performance coach on a mission, former softball coach, wife and mom of three. Each episode, we will dive deep into all things mental performance, mindset tools and how to rewire the brain for success. So if your goal is to gain the mental edge and learn the secrets of mental performance, mindset tools and how to rewire the brain for success, so if your goal is to gain the mental edge and learn the secrets of mental performance, you're in the right place. Let's tune in to today's episode.

Speaker 2: 0:39

Welcome everybody. We're super excited for the guest speaker that we have invited to come speak to us tonight. We have Odyssey Alexander is here. Odyssey, I'm sure you all know who she is, but just as a little introduction, she is currently a professional player. She is a pitcher, but what's interesting is she's also a two-way player, so she's also hitting the ball really well, which is neat.

Speaker 2: 1:03

Um, she played her uh, college softball at james madison university, or jmu as it's also known, and in 2021, she led the jmu team to their first ever college world series and that was a really big deal when she, when she did that, she pitched, she started every game in that um, in that run-up and then through the World Series, and I'm sure she'll mention that when we talk to her tonight. She was named Softball Pitcher of the Year that year. She had an ESPY nominee that year for Best Female College Athlete and then most recently, she's been playing for Athletes Unlimited and in 2023, this last season she won the championship as the individual points leader. So she's an all-around great player, an all-around great person, so we invited her to come share some of her story tonight. So go ahead, odyssey, take it away wow, what a great intro.

Speaker 3: 1:56

Do I have to go after that? I feel like you said everything. Okay, all right, hi guys, obviously y'all are all muted, so a wave maybe everybody says way better all right. Well, she said a lot about me recently and currently, but a little bit about me. I am from a very, very small town. Um, how many of you guys are from a small town y'all share where I'd like to know?

Speaker 2: 2:26

yeah, where you're from or what small town you're from. Go ahead and put it in the chat, maybe. Yeah, that's probably the easiest way to do it I know coach.

Speaker 3: 2:35

Coach ab is from the small town of nebraska oh, nebraska, you didn't even have to say a town, you just had to say Nebraska, just Nebraska is small.

Speaker 2: 2:44

We got Flat Rock, alabama, fairview Park, ohio, oh sounds close to me, and Virginia who's from Virginia. Ashley up there is from Virginia oh nice, okay.

Speaker 3: 2:58

Well, I'm from a very small town in southern Virginia where there are no stoplights we have a couple stop signs and me, growing up, softball was just something I just enjoyed. It was never something I thought about, oh I'm going to college for this or oh, I want to be a professional. It was just something that took my mind off a lot of things that I was going through and it just brought me so much joy and just I just grew this huge love for the game and as I continued to play, I started to realize like, okay, I'm kind of good at this and my grandparents started to realize I was good at it as well. So, moving forward, um, I think I was about six or seven when I started playing softball. Um, moving forward, I ended up playing like in a little rec league where I was just super competitive. I would, I was super hard on myself because I just wanted to be so good, I just wanted to be the best out there. And obviously our mental when we're growing up, we're like, oh, I just want to be the best for my grandparents or your guys' parents, whoever. I say grandparents because that's who raised me and that's who adopted me, so basically they're my parents, if I didn't mention that those are my parents. But growing up, yeah, it was just a joy to me.

Speaker 3: 4:14

I never thought I would go to college, played high school ball, ended up playing travel ball, wasn't really looked at and never really thought about it. I was like, oh, I'm not going to college for this. This is something that just brings me joy for this moment. Like I had other plans coming out of high school, but I think in high school we made it to the state championship or something and a college coach ended up coming which was the JMU head coach, and he wasn't even there to see me. He was there to see someone else and I caught his eye and this is why now I literally preach like you never know who's watching, so just always be the best. You, unapologetically, like, literally the best, you, the best version of you, because you never know who's watching. Um, so I guess I had a good game that day, I don't know, and ended up verbally committing to JMU. I went to one camp and I was like, oh wow, you want me to come to college, didn't give anybody else a chance.

Speaker 3: 5:09

The first offer I got I took and I went with it and I ended up, you know, spending my time at JMU for a good amount of years because we got the COVID year back, so it was five years in college and I would say I grew so much as a person and honestly, it's kind of cool to see when you do get my age. You're like gosh, like back then that bothered me or like now a lot of things don't faze me. I feel like I'm such a better person, a better human, a better athlete all of those things I grew so much and it's really cool to see you know. It's really cool to see you know the adversity I had to face, what got me here and all of that good stuff, like who helped. You know it was a lot, faced a lot of things going through college.

Speaker 3: 6:04

In the last year I got the opportunity to go to the Women's College World Series, which was a goal for me and all of my teammates to actually be there. It was. It was honestly a strange feeling, um, because I remember when I was your guys's age, I'm sitting on the couch watching the women's college world series every year, um, and I would see some of my idols on the tv. I'm like gosh, like I want to be there one day, but never really set that as a goal in my head, like I never set that. I was like I'm going to the world. Women's college was serious. That was never a goal set in my head until I actually got to college and then when I actually got to be on that field in front of 13,000 people however many people there were, it was, it was. It was amazing. And to be one of I don't even know how many teams were there Eight. Why am I acting like I don't know that? Eight teams go to school. You were there right, you were there.

Speaker 3: 6:53

I'm there, though I don't know who else was there, but I was there and to be one of them you blacked out just a little bit, right, I was like I don't know when are we and, honestly, fun fact, I don't know when are we and, honestly fun fact, I don't know if you guys knew this, but the first game we had we didn't have an escort to the field. This is the Women's College World Series we're talking about now. Jv has never been. We haven't had this princess treatment that you get when you go to the Women's College World Series. Okay, so I was feeling kind of cool. You guys know who we play, right, the number one seed. Yeah, we're playing the number one seed. We show up 10 minutes, 15 minutes before the game, because we didn't have an escort to the field. There was traffic, you mean like a police escort right.

Speaker 2: 7:39

A lot of times a police escort will take you out and go in front of the bus. They can go through lights and stuff.

Speaker 3: 7:44

Right, a lot of times a police escort will take you out and go in front of the bus. They can go through lights and stuff. You're right, I didn't have a police escort or nothing like that, so we get there late. Cool, I didn't turn my arm over. I maybe threw 10 pitches, so we just winged it. I had to wing it To Oklahoma. Maybe that was a good thing, right.

Speaker 2: 8:05

I don't know where the ball's about to go. They didn't either. Yeah, I talk about that. Talk about what was it like, what was your, what was your prep like coming in? I mean, you were like you said you were facing oklahoma jmu. Like who in the world, except for outside of your locker room, was giving you guys even a shot? Like no one was what. What did you do to prepare yourself like mentally for that game, to be able to come out against the number one seed team?

Speaker 3: 8:24

honestly, it was one of those points where I'm going out here and I'm going to be me like I don't care who I'm playing. They put their pants on just like I put my pants on. It doesn't matter to me nothing. No, my teammates they were trying to stress me out. I was like y'all got two when we were 10 minutes from game time. I'm like all right, like they're warming up on the bus. I'm sitting here like this is not gonna get me like.

Speaker 3: 8:49

This is not about to stress me out right now, but I kind of go into every game the same, no matter who I'm playing, no matter who they got, no matter what I'm about to face. I kind of go in there just knowing I have I have the confidence. I worked very, very hard to get to where I'm at and I feel like I was prepared. No matter how many pitches I threw in my warm-up, I was ready to go mentally and it takes a lot. Hard work builds confidence. So all the work I put in, I feel like that's what prepared me mentally to go play Oklahoma. It makes me want to choke when I say Oklahoma.

Speaker 2: 9:31

Yeah, that's awesome. Just be you right. You don't have to be anything different than what got you there, and that means, yeah, it got you there and you had the chance. That's awesome. I read that you taught yourself how to pitch. What was that like?

Speaker 3: 9:48

I honestly don't even know where pitching came from. I started out literally like front tossing and then I feel like I'd seen, I kept seeing softball on TV and I would just watch it and watch it, and watch it and watch it, and I would just do that outside. I would learn different techniques. I would just, yeah, try different things with my body, get creative. And one thing about me growing up I was I always got in the habit of throwing really, really, really, really hard, like up against that water. Well, I would just go hard. It didn't even matter what my body looked like. I felt like I looked great, it felt fine to me at the time. But I was just practiced going hard and that's, I guess. And obviously I'm genetically built. You know thicker, and that's, I guess. And obviously I'm genetically built. You know thicker and that's okay.

Speaker 3: 10:35

We're all different. That's what I like to teach my pitchers. We're all different. We have different biomechanics, like what works for you may not work for me. What works for me may not work for you, but the basic fundamentals we all, we all know those right. But yes, I did, and it came from just watching video. Amanda Scarborough was one of my, like, biggest pitchers. I would watch all the time and I would just try to follow everything she did, like grips, everything so she was a big role in, you know, learning how to pitch a ball.

Speaker 2: 11:08

That's awesome. How to pitch a ball, that's awesome. What so? It's unusual to be a two-way player as a pitcher, right, that doesn't come around all that often, and you happen to be a great hitter along with being a great pitcher. So what? What is that like, both at the collegiate level and as a pro? Now, what's it like trying to split your time there, because pitching requires a lot of time and and uh and effort as well, as hitting does right. So how do you, how do you balance that? Are people ever trying to talk you out of, like, you know, let's put down the bat for a little bit and just pitch, or what's that process been like?

Speaker 3: 11:44

um, at first, you know, I don't feel like it was ever tough for me because it's something I always did, like growing up I would have a stick and before I caught the bus I would throw it rocks and like hit it, and like I just always wanted to be on the field Wherever the coach put me. I'm like I can do it, I'm fine. And of course you have your POs. I never wanted to be a PO, I just put me on the field somewhere. I never wanted to be a PO, I just put me on the field somewhere. I can do it. I know I can do it. So college it was just kind of almost natural.

Speaker 3: 12:16

Never really had any like well, I think my last year, the last year when we went to World Series, I got injured at the beginning and when I came back my timing was off. That's probably the only time where I was like I'm done. Hitting, I'm done. This is too much for me. I can pitch, fine. The hitting part. I was like I don't know what I'm doing. But yeah, there was never really a time where I was like I don't want to hit anymore. And every pitcher is different. Some pitchers just want to specifically focus on pitching, and that's fine. Some pitchers want to go out and hit, some pitchers want to play first base, right field, whatever. I'm one of those players who always wants to be on the field, no matter not shortstop or second base, nothing like that. Or center field or catcher, nothing like that.

Speaker 2: 13:05

So you want to kind of be on the field.

Speaker 3: 13:09

Right field. You know somewhere in there dp you know.

Speaker 2: 13:11

Yeah, nothing too crazy, that's awesome yeah, always you, uh, you mentioned your injury. So it's a hamstring injury, right? Um, what was what was that? Like, um, coming back from that, what was that process? Like, we've got plenty of girls that have experienced injuries. Yeah, what advice would you give them?

Speaker 3: 13:32

right off the bone like how did you do that? Going to um a senior year this is regular seniors, or. This is when we went to a series, the year we went to a series, and my body felt great. I'm like, oh, I feel so great first hit of the game. Well, my first hit of the game, like the third inning and the third game of the season. It's just running the first base, you know, like we normally do, normal people Just blew a tire, I guess, and I will say the hardest part was coming back, because it's my senior year.

Speaker 3: 14:07

I'm like, don't, I don't want to go back to school. That was the number one thing in my mind. I'm not coming back to school. You can't make me come back to school, like it's just it for me. So the biggest part was more mental. I think I was mentally just four apart when I was injured and it's honestly it was pretty selfish of me to just think about myself. But it wasn't.

Speaker 3: 14:34

Obviously my health is important, but my teammates were like, like you need to push yourself in rehab, you need to get back. We need you because if I didn't, if I redshirted, I was probably going somewhere else. Just to be completely honest. I was about to take my butt to a power five or something. I was like I can't stay here. All my friends are leaving, everyone is going to be younger than me. I was not doing that, um.

Speaker 3: 14:53

So it came to the point where I had to choose. They're like are you gonna red shirt, are you gonna play? I'm like, like what? I'm like, excuse me, and I'm busting my butt in rehab. Obviously it's very important and painful, but my legs brand new. I ended up getting like a prp shot, which I don't know what that does, but it helped heal it quicker, okay, but the biggest thing was being a good teammate in that um time of my life. It was dark place, very dark place for me, but my teammates were very supportive. They had my back and I came back. Leg was okay. In the World Series Didn't really do too much. If you guys ever see me run in the World Series, it was not a sprint. The most you've probably seen was the diving play. That's probably the hardest thing you got out of me other than pitching.

Speaker 2: 15:50

Pitching didn't bother me, but yeah, that diving play, girls you should, after we get off this, call you should. You should, uh, google that youtube. Uh, her diving play in the world series. It, it got named the best play right, the best defensive play of the world series. That was that was that. Was it off a bun? It was like they, it was a little dribbler back to the mound, right that you like gloved and tossed it to home plate yep, I did that was a big deal.

Speaker 2: 16:15

You guys should look that up. It was a great play that she made to help steal. Who's that against?

Speaker 3: 16:21

oklahoma state. We're just playing oklahoma teams the whole, you're like cool. Oklahoma, oklah, oklahoma.

Speaker 2: 16:30

Again, I'm like, I love it here anybody like other teams come, or is it just Oklahoma?

Speaker 3: 16:37

oh, man in Oklahoma, cool, I just all right?

Speaker 2: 16:41

um, last question I have for you, before we open up to these girls to go ahead and ask whatever they feel like asking tonight. Um, if you could go back to a younger version of yourself, um, what would you? What would you tell yourself? What advice would you give yourself if you could go back in time?

Speaker 3: 16:58

I would tell myself that and it's literally what I always say, because I get this question all the time that I wouldn't let the game define me who I am as a person, and I don't know if you guys really really know what that means. You have to dig down deep on that one, like obviously it's easier said than done, but don't let the game define who you are as a person. It's a game if you work hard. Like I said, hard work builds confidence. So if you're prepared to go and you're human, like you're gonna make a mistake, it's fine. Like I give up home runs all the time to my friends. That doesn't feel good, but it's okay. I'm just like okay, cool, you won't do that again, though anyway, but the game should not define you at all.

Speaker 3: 17:48

And that's any game you play like. If you put in the work to be the best you, the authentic you be, that, um, don't let the game define who you are. That is the biggest thing I would have told myself.

Speaker 2: 18:06

Oh, I should get so mad that is great advice, really really good advice. We talk a lot about that, about identity and having you know, knowing who you are outside of softball. I think that is huge, important. All right, well, we will go ahead and open it up to you. Ladies, if anyone has a question, you can either um unmute yourself or you can type it in the chat. Um, we've got about 10 or so minutes that we can ask odyssey questions and they're they're free to fire away, right, odyssey? Right, fire away whatever they want. Okay, we usually get some food questions, so maybe be thinking about favorite foods, but, um, so go ahead and ask me whatever way ladies.

Speaker 4: 18:51

How many girls do you play with that? Um are from small towns versus, oh, small towns.

Speaker 3: 19:01

I would say there's a few. When I went into the pro league they were usually when you go into the pro league, like everyone kind of knows everybody. There were a few girls that I didn't. I didn't know, but they were really, really, really good. That just shows you that you know it doesn't really matter where you come from, do what you got to do and you can be right where we are. But yeah, there are. Yeah, there was maybe like 10.

Speaker 2: 19:29

I'll go 10 doesn't matter doesn't matter what else you guys got oh, you guys are quiet. I'm shy tonight. Go ahead, ash, like sorry oh.

Speaker 4: 19:45

So, if my, if I remember right, I think you played for both when Mickey Dean and Lauren coached at JMU. What was that shift like when your coaching staff changed?

Speaker 3: 19:54

Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 2: 19:57

That's like a reporter question. Are you writing a book, Ashley?

Speaker 4: 20:02

No, I go to Bridgewater College, which is about 10 minutes from JMU, and I look at your picking yeah, I live about 45 minutes from JMU, so it was a top prospect in my looks. And then that coaching staff change shifted and I knew someone who worked at JMU and worked with the club team so it was kind of a hard decision of whether or not to go there shouldn't have been hard.

Speaker 3: 20:24

I left JMU.

Speaker 4: 20:26

I don't know I didn't know much and then all the people I knew left, so it was kind of like iffy.

Speaker 3: 20:33

I understand. I understand you go where it feels like oh, I feel like you did that, you like Bridgewater.

Speaker 4: 20:40

Yeah, it's not bad. I decided not to play in college and keep my job. I had to choose between playing and my job, so that was a rough decision too. I understand Sacrifice girl. You got to do what you gotta do. Yeah, this will be my first year not playing because I aged out of travel how did you?

Speaker 3: 20:58

I'm about to start asking questions because that's tough, that's tough. So what'd you? How'd that affect you? Like, how did you handle it?

Speaker 4: 21:12

um, it's been rough because I did miss most of the season due to a knee injury during COVID year and I didn't get to play high school, so it's been it's been tough so far without the sport. I'm thinking about switching to playing some slow pitch this season to keep me active, because I really do miss it. That That'll do it.

Speaker 3: 21:31

That'll do it. Definitely. Find something that I don't know just brings you joy, but you have to find that within you, whatever that could be anything I feel like coming off a sport like yeah, especially as a softball player, because I felt like softball was just that's all I would see, that's all I would hear, that's all people knew me for. And once I got out of college obviously we don't play pro until the summer it was like gosh, what am I about to do? Obviously, now I get back like teach younger. I do like pitching lessons, you know stuff like that, camps and clinics, but still, there's still softball, softball, softball, softball, softball. It's like, hmm, should I find another hobby? So I know for me, like now I like to like read journal. You know just little stuff like that to get out of softball, because you have to do that. You're seeing softball, softball, softball, softballs. It can get draining, no matter how much you love the game.

Speaker 3: 22:33

So you don't want to lose the love for the game? Yeah for sure. But the transition from mickey dean to um back to that, sorry for mickey dean to laura laporte. So Laporte was always there. She had to take on a bigger role after Mickey Dean left. So it really wasn't the only issue I wouldn't say issue, but what hurt me the most was he's the one who brought me in. So I was like gosh, you brought me in and now you're leaving me. And he taught me a lot in that one year I had him pitching. He made me realize how good I was. He was very hard on me. Some people like Mickey Dean, some people don't like Mickey Dean.

Speaker 3: 23:18

I was a fan of Mickey Dean. I liked him. He dug down deep within me. He made me feel like he was the type of coach who saw things in me that I had no idea I had or that I didn't see. And once I got to the point I was like, oh, this is what he was talking about, like that just made me a better player and a better person. So I would say the transition was hard because he's who brought me in. But once I like, opened up and was vulnerable vulnerable enough to open up to Laporte it. It was fine. Like all women, you know we love drama, I love drama. You have all women Listen. It is what it is. I mean it's going to be. You know you're going to butt heads sometimes but I feel like that coaching staff, we were family and once I got to the point where I could open up to them and just be myself towards them, it was, it was fine.

Speaker 2: 24:13

so all right, we got a few here in the chat. This says um, what was your? What was your why when you were 13, and how has it changed into your why that you have now?

Speaker 3: 24:28

my why when I was 13 gosh, that is so long ago, that's over 10 years ago. My why when I was 13, I will have to say my grandparents and myself, because kind of where I come from, I'm not going to say a lot of people don't make it out, but it's where I come from is kind of hard to come from, and I always tell myself that I beat the odds just because things that went on before my grandparents adopted me. So when my grandparents adopted me, those are two people I never wanted to disappoint. Things that went on before my grandparents adopted me. So when my grandparents adopted me, those are two people I never wanted to disappoint. So, whatever I did, moving forward, I'm like, oh, I don't want to disappoint my grandparents anyway. And that was grades, just doing the right thing, just trying to be the best me and be who God created me to be. So there were definitely a why Moving to college.

Speaker 3: 25:31

There were a why, like I have to get good grades, I have to be the best me on this field, like all that stuff. And yeah, and for myself, like I beat the odds. So why would I want to ruin something? So you know, if I'm good at something. Why would I to run that? You know so definitely for myself too, for beating me on. Why not just see that chat? What's your favorite cream food? What was before that?

Speaker 2: 26:03

let me look at a bunch of other questions, but you can go. You can go whatever order you want. There's a one asking is there any players in the pro leagues that didn't play d1? Do you know of any?

Speaker 3: 26:14

oh, yeah, those are the ones kind of. I was saying from a small town, but I didn't really know most of the girls in the pro. I don't really know where they're from. They'll be like I'm from so-and-so california. That's the west coast, I'm on the east coast, I don't know where. They're saying, yeah, everyone's from california. I feel like, um, but yeah, there are a few girls. I'm like where'd you come from? You're a beast. And they'll come from a d3 and I'm like, okay, cool, don't know where that's at, you're a beast, yeah, so it doesn't really matter, and if you're, good you're good, if you're good.

Speaker 3: 26:48

If you're good, you're good right.

Speaker 2: 26:51

What was your favorite catcher to throw to my?

Speaker 3: 26:53

favorite catcher I'm going to go Gwen Speckers and Deja Molypoly. Either one of those behind the plate, I was Because you know, as pitchers, once you get in the rhythm, you're cool. I trust my catcher. You call what you think. Gwen was a very good pitch caller.

Speaker 2: 27:13

Deja that's my best friend. You're biased. This one's asking about your freshman year. Was it difficult to make friends with the other girls?

Speaker 3: 27:26

So showing up on a team, what was that like? Um, I would say for me going into college, I feel, like for any athlete, you're coming to a group of people who don't have the same background as you or you know. Just it's different and you have to learn those people. So it was kind of hard for me because growing up I never I was kind of always around the same people and meeting new people was never really my thing. But I had to get out of that Kind of open up and be me and allow them to open up and be themselves. And yeah, that was actually pretty tough for me. I will say I was kind of shy going into college but once you get to know your teammates teammates you're your sisters for four years, so you know yeah, all right.

Speaker 2: 28:17

Who's on your softball?

Speaker 3: 28:18

Mount Rushmore college or where we go ahead.

Speaker 2: 28:24

I think you get to do whatever you want. It's your Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 3: 28:34

Myself, as you should. I'm going for myself. I'm going to go, monica. Okay, monica Abbott, this is tough. I need to catch her. Why is this hard? There's the motive. Okay, how many more? How many did I say?

Speaker 2: 28:55

You said two. I don't even know how many are actually on Mount Rushmore. Was it like four, five, six, something like that? It's four on there, four, someone says four. I believe them.

Speaker 3: 29:08

I think it is four. Okay, I got Monica Deja, Aaliyah Andrews.

Speaker 2: 29:19

One more and you, you can put you.

Speaker 3: 29:23

Myself. Yeah, you're right, that's a good squad right there.

Speaker 2: 29:27

Yeah, that is a good squad. I like that. We've had Deja and Aaliyia both come and do these guest speakers, so we're we're going good and you look at my girls.

Speaker 3: 29:41

That was a funny question favorite pre-game food.

Speaker 2: 29:45

We're running, we're running kind of short on time, so I'm going to kind of quick fire these at you. What's your favorite pre-game food? We're running kind of short on time, so I'm going to kind of quick fire these at you. What's your favorite pregame food? Doritos, all right, but which flavor?

Speaker 3: 29:57

Actually I'll go. Apples and peanut butter, that's a good one. Okay.

Speaker 2: 30:01

Apples and peanut butter. All right, I like this question. It's awesome. Is there anyone in the league that you are a secret fangirl of? She said, like I like this question. It's awesome. Is there anyone in the league that you are a secret fangirl of? Don't tell her, but she is so good. Do you have a secret fangirl?

Speaker 3: 30:18

I would say going into the league. Going into the league, it was definitely Kat and Kelsey Stewart.

Speaker 2: 30:26

Okay, and have you ever had to pitch to them?

Speaker 4: 30:32

Kelsey Stewart, yes, oh, no, all right um, I think that's about it.

Speaker 2: 30:41

Yeah, that's fine. That was all that was in the chat. Yeah, hey, girls, great questions. Those are some really really great questions. Um, we want to be respectful of your time, so we'll go ahead and wrap it up, but we want to say thank you so much for coming and sharing all of your insights. I know this was really really helpful for all the girls.