Have you ever found yourself pushing through obstacles with the ferocity of a bulldozer, only to realize you might be bulldozing the wrong building? That's the crux of our latest heart-to-heart, where we, Kelly and Josiah Chewbacca, candidly examine the delicate balance between dogged persistence and the wisdom of strategic retreat. We're not just talking about sticking to your guns; we're dissecting the moments when that tenacity might be leading us down a rabbit hole—from ill-fated stock investments to clinging onto relationships that have long overstayed their welcome.
Through personal reflections and a touch of humor, we navigate the intricacies of setting healthy boundaries while maintaining the commitment to our goals. We draw inspiration from cultural touchstones like Bon Jovi's anthemic "Living on a Prayer," discussing the importance of support networks and the transformative power of reassessing our paths. Join us for a conversation that could redefine your approach to perseverance, and discover how letting go can sometimes be the bravest—and smartest—move you can make.
Have you ever found yourself pushing through obstacles with the ferocity of a bulldozer, only to realize you might be bulldozing the wrong building? That's the crux of our latest heart-to-heart, where we, Kelly and Josiah Chewbacca, candidly examine the delicate balance between dogged persistence and the wisdom of strategic retreat. We're not just talking about sticking to your guns; we're dissecting the moments when that tenacity might be leading us down a rabbit hole—from ill-fated stock investments to clinging onto relationships that have long overstayed their welcome.
Through personal reflections and a touch of humor, we navigate the intricacies of setting healthy boundaries while maintaining the commitment to our goals. We draw inspiration from cultural touchstones like Bon Jovi's anthemic "Living on a Prayer," discussing the importance of support networks and the transformative power of reassessing our paths. Join us for a conversation that could redefine your approach to perseverance, and discover how letting go can sometimes be the bravest—and smartest—move you can make.
Welcome back to Stand. You're with Kelly Chewbacca and Josiah Chewbacca today. We were talking about the courage it takes to take a stand with perseverance and to never give up, and so we were just mentioning that. Sometimes we found that taking a stand and not giving up has its downsides, that one of the good things is you don't give up, you persevere. You're the only one who can take yourself out. I love the minio song about that. Um, what is it? What?
Speaker 1:
you can't stop me yeah, you can't stop me. I love that song. That the only person who can stop me is me is what he says in that song which I like.
Speaker 2:
My biggest enemy is me Right, and even I can't stop me.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so the only person who can get him to quit is him.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
And he basically talks about this principle that we're talking about.
Speaker 1:
I love that and for the people who are in this mentality, this perseverance mentality, one of the hard things, I think one of the weak things, the weaknesses that comes with this mentality is you don't quit.
Speaker 1:
And there may be times when it is good to quit, like I have found sometimes. So you'll hear me out Sometimes it was probably better to end that unhealthy relationship a little sooner instead of holding on to it until it really needed to be ended. So just to put out there that there are times that I have found that my never give up, never quit mentality has had some limits and I've learned to draw better boundaries through time. Are you hearing me, okay? So I've learned that this strength also can be a weakness and have had to balance it with healthy boundaries. So drawing it's still, I think, one of our strongest values and what has given us a above average or extraordinary level of courage and ability to accomplish goals and victories, and it also needs to be balanced with healthy boundaries around decision making or family, or like, for example, never give up on starting my business could turn me into a workaholic that sacrifices family time. So it's the balance of never give up plus healthy boundaries that leads to success. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:
It does, and I would say, obviously, common sense with what you never give up on. I would say for me it really comes from the mentality of you know, am I giving up on this thing, or is it already dead? Sure, that's a good point, you can't give up on dead things, so something I would kind of relate it to is the stock market. So, like day trading, please don't apply your never give up mentality to a stock that's just plummeting.
Speaker 1:
Bad money after bad money Just keep on no. Yeah, that doesn't work.
Speaker 2:
You're not giving up. You're realigning, rethinking your goals and purposes and coming at things from a new angle and then accepting reality.
Speaker 1:
Correct. That's a really good way of applying it. Yeah, Now you were talking to me about Bon Jovi.
Speaker 2:
I was talking to you about Bon Jovi. I was hoping that you would just let me go into that, so I would just-.
Speaker 1:
I think it's interesting that you're throwing back to somebody who is famous in my generation. He's still famous, he who is famous in my generation. He's still famous, he is still famous.
Speaker 2:
All the kids know him.
Speaker 1:
All the kids. He's a meme. Oh he's a. What's a meme?
Speaker 2:
So my eighth grade guitar teacher, his daughter, she was in, I think, like third grade at the time. She knew the words to Living on a Prayer when it came on.
Speaker 1:
What.
Speaker 2:
She knew the scream part. You know the. We're halfway halfway there.
Speaker 1:
Y'all know the song yeah, I could join you. But yeah, you could. Then that would become a meme we would blow out their mics.
Speaker 2:
So we respect your ears. So I was just thinking that song's super powerful because you know it's about johnny and gina. You know, johnny's got a six-string heart and he and Gina are trying to make it and they have each other and that's a lot, and they choose to give it a shot and then, right as soon as they choose to give it a shot, they're halfway there, they're already halfway to their goals.
Speaker 1:
Hey, profound point.
Speaker 2:
And for me that's really actually super true. Half of the battle in getting anything done ever is just giving it a shot and not choosing, not choosing to go for it choosing to go for it, choosing to stand up and then making that the firm decision, so you're not going to sit down. And then the other 50% is just all the all the other stuff.
Speaker 1:
Well, the hard work and I think I think Molly actually said it really well A lot of faith, yeah, it really well.
Speaker 2:
A lot of faith, yeah, putting, putting a lot of faith work behind it, yeah, exactly, and so I think that just was super applicable and it reminded me of this uncle we have. So we're a mixed family, which means we're black, which means we call people auntie and uncle who aren't actually blood.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, we have a lot of love.
Speaker 2:
We have a lot of love and one of my uncles is dad's really close friend and he's like one of the top eye surgeons in the country. Right, you know the guy I'm talking about and I just got to thinking, you know, I wonder what kind of grades he got in school to become the top eye doctor in his country. And I was thinking about like the med track in college. And you know, like if you're going to college, people tell you get good grades in high school. Once you go to college, d's get degrees. You know you get your degree. You get a d, that's fine, take the d, unless you're going into like med or law, in which case you need A's in college. But then once you get to med school or once you get to law school, d's get degrees right. So there's this idea that you know get A's for when it matters and then once you get into the thing you want to go into, your D's get your degrees.
Speaker 2:
And I was thinking, you know, I wonder if that was his mentality no because I don't think you get to be the top doctor in your field with that mentality. You see, I think that he got A's in high school and then got A's in college and then got A's in med school.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:
And then, once he got out of med school and once he was doing his residencies, he got A's in his residencies. And so I think it's if you really want to be successful, follow this guy's example, don't fall for that D's. Get degrees Like that is mediocre, standard level. Those are the people who will also tell you why haven't you given up yet? Just give up, and it's not that mentality that will carry you through the fires and the storms that you're gonna have to face if you stand for what you believe in. So he kind of really inspired me in that regard and it also really reminded me of my hunting trip. So for me I would say that was easily the number one way I learned perseverance, because it was over the course of two summers. We'd gone hunting. The one summer didn't get anything, and then we got on four other hunts and every single time it was just nothing, nothing, nothing. And these weren't easy hunts, like we were walking miles and miles and miles.
Speaker 2:
It was all on foot in mountains horrible, horrible experience and on our horrible weather, horrible weather and on our last hunt we walked 50 miles in this area and we don't even see anything. And that was before we got to the place where we were even going to go get something.
Speaker 1:
You're exaggerating a little. You saw a lot of bugs.
Speaker 2:
We didn't. No, it was horrible. It was so bad. It was so bad and I wanted to quit because we were coming down the second day and the trail was so horrible and we knew it was a 17 mile hike back out and we were just like we haven't seen a single thing. We're heading home and I wanted to give up and I was just like I'm done hunting, like I'm never doing this, like who the heck does this? This is why, why and I'm sitting there and I'm looking at the lights in the city way off in the distance. I'm thinking about all those people sitting down on their sofas drinking milks, milkshakes, and I'm like I wanna be that guy Like what the heck am I doing out here, living in hell?
Speaker 2:
And thankfully the guys that were with me kinda were like no, don't give up. So then we hiked out the next day and I was just like you know what, I'm not ready to give up yet. So I said, said let's go to an entirely different area where we already have experienced nothing but failure before.
Speaker 2:
and we walked another 20 miles and we got an animal that was my first animal, and that was so profound to me that you just don't give up, Even when no one like no. If we had come back after those three days, no one would have blamed us. Like we had walked 50 miles. It was one of the hottest summers on record up here. It was terrible. No one would have blamed us. The other guy who was with us tapped out, but we didn't give up. And then guess who came home with the guts and the glory.
Speaker 1:
Right, that's absolutely right. Came home with the guts and the glory Right, that's absolutely right. Which?
Speaker 2:
could be a Bon.
Speaker 1:
Jovi song guts and glory. But to your point that not giving up leads to these really great experiences. But the other part that I take from your story about the doctor is it's also pursuing excellence. It's doing it well, it's doing it with the right attitude. It's not doing it with the pitiful, resentful, you know shoulder slumped attitude. Well, I guess I'm not giving up today because I don't know that it.
Speaker 2:
Because if you do it with that attitude, that's called losing.
Speaker 1:
I think that that's right and I also don't know that you would have, for example, gotten the animal. I don't know that you would have been successful. But also, there's such an important value in understanding that we are made for a purpose and not like a one-time purpose, like at some point in your later years of life you'll finally understand what in the world you were put here for. I believe that we are made for a daily purpose, that there aren't chance encounters, that accidentally, but in fact that we are designed for an impact and influence on people's lives, to inspire, to impact.
Speaker 1:
I really liked that question you asked Molly what's your, what do you want your business? How do you want it to impact and affect people? Because we have a choice in those daily influences and impacts and we have a purpose for being here and I believe that it has to do with our interactions and our influence with other people that we're here to help and to encourage, to lift, to strengthen, to comfort other people around us. So part of not giving up, part of even acquiring these stories a story that happens in your perseverance and when nobody's watching is for the purpose of encouraging and strengthening and helping others to not give up, so that you can share those stories and so that we can live out that purpose with other people. And I think that's part of why we do things excellently as well. We don't live out our purpose with a half heart and half and and a half attitude and you know kind of slop it together purpose, purpose isn't sloppy.
Speaker 1:
Right, that's a good point. So this is stand. You've been with Kelly and Josiah Chewbacca. We're so glad that you are with us today. Pray that you have the courage to stand strong, to persevere, to never give up and to do all things with excellence and purpose. Catch us on our next episode next week. All of our episodes are at stanshoworg. Make sure to hit subscribe and follow us on social media and we'll see you next time. Thanks for being one of our Stands Outs.