Not The Press
A Deep Dive into the Currents of College Protests and National Identity
As we peel back the layers of college campus protests, Scott Lassenen and Gitas Hajjo join me in a raw and eye-opening conversation that cuts to the heart of American values. We dissect the recent surge in demonstrations, contrasting them with the notorious Kent State incident, and question the true intentions behind the outrage. The authenticity of these uprisings is put under the microscope, particularly during an election year, when political maneuvering could be fanning the flames of discord. Our dialogue extends to the controversial reactions to these protests, advocating for a return to informed activism and a united political discourse.
The sanctity of our national symbols comes into sharp focus in this episode. The three of us stand united in our disapproval of flag desecration and the deep divide it signifies, sparked by recent events of foreign flags hoisted in place of the American flag. We applaud the NYPD and Mayor Adams for their exemplary handling of such situations and engage in a profound discussion about patriotism, identity, and the respect owed to the emblems that represent our nation. Personal stories weave through our talk, as we grapple with the challenges of finding common ground amidst polarized opinions.
Finally, we take a moment to honor the disciplined spirit of our military and MMA warriors. Hajjo shares touching narratives of his brother's journey in the Navy and his passion for MMA, drawing parallels between the rigorous demands of both. We also spotlight leaders who put America's interests first, like Tulsi Gabbard who exemplifies the essence of effective leadership. Join us for an episode that navigates the tumultuous waves of protest culture and political division, and offers a beacon of hope for unity and resilience in the American psyche.
As we peel back the layers of college campus protests, Scott Lassenen and Gitas Hajjo join me in a raw and eye-opening conversation that cuts to the heart of American values. We dissect the recent surge in demonstrations, contrasting them with the notorious Kent State incident, and question the true intentions behind the outrage. The authenticity of these uprisings is put under the microscope, particularly during an election year, when political maneuvering could be fanning the flames of discord. Our dialogue extends to the controversial reactions to these protests, advocating for a return to informed activism and a united political discourse.
The sanctity of our national symbols comes into sharp focus in this episode. The three of us stand united in our disapproval of flag desecration and the deep divide it signifies, sparked by recent events of foreign flags hoisted in place of the American flag. We applaud the NYPD and Mayor Adams for their exemplary handling of such situations and engage in a profound discussion about patriotism, identity, and the respect owed to the emblems that represent our nation. Personal stories weave through our talk, as we grapple with the challenges of finding common ground amidst polarized opinions.
Finally, we take a moment to honor the disciplined spirit of our military and MMA warriors. Hajjo shares touching narratives of his brother's journey in the Navy and his passion for MMA, drawing parallels between the rigorous demands of both. We also spotlight leaders who put America's interests first, like Tulsi Gabbard who exemplifies the essence of effective leadership. Join us for an episode that navigates the tumultuous waves of protest culture and political division, and offers a beacon of hope for unity and resilience in the American psyche.
All right, we're back, another episode of Not the Press, and I've got two repeat offenders here Scott Lawson and Gitas Hajjo. What are we going to be talking about today? We're going to be talking about the process, all the hate and discontent and protests that are going on around our universities. Universities and, just as a reminder, I think it was 50, 54 years ago today the protests at Kent State University were four students were shot, nine were injured due to anti-war protests.
Speaker 1:But there's a distinct difference between those protests and the protests that are going on today, and I think that's some of the stuff that it's on a lot of Americans' minds, you know, with American flags being tore down and foreign flags being put up, the call of death to, you know, hundreds of thousands of people because of what they believe in. So there's a lot of stuff to talk about with this, and I think it's a heavy subject, but it has to be discussed and people need to be discussing around their dinner tables or around a table like this, or around a fire or with a beer in hand. Um, so we can sort this stuff out and make sure that we put this stuff to rest and we try to figure out a solution for it. So with that, scott, we're going to go around the table and we'll start. What are your initial? From October 7th until now, you know what's your initial thought with all the protests that have been going on with this.
Speaker 2:So I haven't seen much of the protests, you know, after the October 7th incident when everything happened over in Israel. Haven't really seen much until just like the last you know few weeks in the college campus. So you know you really haven't been following it much. You, you know, see all the stuff in the news with, you know the Israeli offensive in Gaza and stuff like that, but you know nothing so much considering protest here in the United States until everything has just popped up within the last you know few weeks at the college campuses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know what. You know just to throw some facts on there, just doing, you know, a little digging on this, max on there, just doing a little digging on this stuff that I didn't know. If you saw the list of colleges that the protests have happened and where they are staged currently it's ridiculous right now and I could go through the list on here. I will tell you it's long. You know where protests have happened and we're looking at Columbia UCLA. You know where protests have happened and we're looking at Columbia UCLA, city College in New York City, gw, ut, austin the list goes on when they're currently stage two happen. The list is even longer. They've already got it staged, they've already got it ready to go and you know. Just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with protest, is good. But when you have people that don't even know what they're protesting about and calling for death to people, that's a problem and it's just causing a lot of bad shit to happen in our country and Gitas. What are your?
Speaker 3:feelings about the whole thing, the protesting, or the whole thing, the protesting, or, well, the whole israeli offensive well, no, I mean like what we're seeing on our college campuses with both right now like scott I, I haven't watched too much of the news and, quite frankly, I don't believe any of the bullshit that they put on there anyways.
Speaker 3:But I agree, I think these kids are just so, uh, they're, they're, they don't know what they're. Uh, I'm generalizing. I'm sure some have some position, but I'd say I'd bet the vast majority don't, and I believe they're being influenced by, influenced by outside sources and, um, it's, it's what we do now. Yeah, as we, we cause chaos yeah and uh infighting within our country and uh, no one really understands why. So here we are again, and guess what? Election year.
Speaker 1:So more bullshit. I mean that's more bullshit. That's the whole, that's the topper of it all, man. And just to kind of recap of what actually happened. So October 7th happens 1,200 people killed, over 1,200 people, israelis murdered, 250 hostages.
Speaker 1:We're not here to talk about any of that stuff. In fact, there's so many facts that are probably not provided about any of that. What happened, what led up to it, what happened directly after that? But the fact of the matter is you had protests that started the day after, before there was anything that happened. So October 7th happens Israel did nothing yet and protests had already started in this country less than 24 hours later. And that should be an alarm to people, especially those protests, those protests.
Speaker 1:There's some quotes that I wrote down that they were saying at those particular protests Glory to our martyrs, globalizing Antifata from the river to the sea, and resistance is justified. And you know, one could say well, you know that means this or whatever. It's like, dude, I mean, let's think about this. Less than 24 hours after people got murdered and you're saying this stuff, that's hate, and what you're doing is you're trying to make other people hate and there's no getting around that and the fact that people can't admit that there's politicians that can't admit that to this day is kind of fucking disgusting, to be quite honest.
Speaker 3:I just think it's all manufactured.
Speaker 1:It is manufactured, manufactured, but people are dying because of it, though I I know it's crap, but if you go back to the whole thing, I think the whole thing's.
Speaker 3:When hamas went over the border I think, that's bullshit. And I mean look who are we kidding? One of the most fortified borders in the world. Some donkeys fly across the border and start mass murdering people. You can't take a shit on the other side without the Israelis know what's going on. You're telling me all these untrained donkeys are all of a sudden infiltrating Israel on makeshift freaking. That's bullshit.
Speaker 3:The whole thing is bullshit. I don't believe any of it. And I I knew what I knew. This netanyahu was on the outs with the israelis 100, sure? Um, this was his way of getting back, uh, in the good graces of the israeli people. So well, regardless of what happened, but okay, so hang on, so, so. So that's my, that's my opinion. Who?
Speaker 3:knows who knows what's real, what's not. I'm just saying. It just all seems to add up to me. I'm one of those people who have always said if I had to fight against terrorism, my view is, you got to kill the terrorists and their family, I don't fuck around, so I've got no issue if it's real. No, I'm just saying, if it's real, guess what? I don't have a problem with it, because you have to create the terrorists. Don't care about themselves, right, they're going to. They feel like they're justified in what they're doing and they're going to die.
Speaker 3:Right, but they definitely care about their families. So you make a few examples and that's basically what Israel is doing. In terms of the protests, those people that are protesting are influenced. They don't understand what goes on in day-to-day lives of on both sides. Right, they've. They've never been there, shit, I've never. I've never been there. You guys may never have been there I, I don't know but I know at one time and multiple times over history, they have lived in peace, um, but anyways. So I know I'm going off in different things. I just say the whole thing is bullshit.
Speaker 1:That's kind of here and I don't know what's bullshit and what's not bullshit with what actually happened there. But I know what's not bullshit is protests are happening here. It's anti-American protests and it's driving hatred and people are getting hurt. That's a fact. That's happening here. Rather, regardless of how anyone feels about what actually happened October 7th until right now, to this day, our American flag has been tore down and multiple campuses put up with a foreign flag, which, by the way, is probably one of the most disgusting things and show of the First Amendment. If that's what you're going to display, that is probably the most anti-American thing you could do and you claim that as a first amendment thing. You can go suck my balls, because a lot of people died for that. I mean that a lot. There's a lot of blood that paid for that flag to be up on those flagpoles. That's a fact.
Speaker 3:Who's that's happening? Who's letting that happen?
Speaker 1:Exactly, it doesn't matter. I mean well, it does. But what I'm saying is it's fact that that's happening in our country.
Speaker 3:You can't let that happen. No, that's that's that's, that's insane.
Speaker 2:It's all on the universities and it's all private property and they don't really care. The universities themselves they don't give a shit, you know, don't really care. The universities themselves they don't give a shit, you know. So it's crazy. All of these encampments are built up on the universities and the police have no jurisdiction, supposedly to go in there unless they're invited to come in.
Speaker 3:But all right, let me give you an example. If my one of my kids was going to a school where they're allowing that bullshit, I would. I would communicate to the school that I'm pulling my kids out, right, yeah, fuck off, of course, yeah, right, and guess what People need to do that and guess what they're ship. They are a business, after all. Oh, so that would change your tune, real darn quick. I mean I don't, I don't know it would, because uh they need students, they need, they need tuition.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but when you look at the endowments that go into these big universities, that are given to them by a lot of very well-to-do people, I think the tuition that's paid is a small dent, I think tuition is only 10% of what Harvard has in their coffers.
Speaker 1:Everything else is a 90% endowment. At Harvard and a lot of schools are like that. Harvard and a lot of schools are like that. The tuition means a tuition is basically getting students there as a method to get these stupid ass messages that they're putting out in the universities and that's already bought and paid for. You know a tuition is. In my opinion, with the amount of money some of these colleges have, the tuition doesn't they could do without it. They could absolutely let everyone go there for free that wanted to go there If they wanted to, you know they could do that. They can afford that. We'll never know how much is in their cofers at the end of the day because it's hundreds of millions of dollars. You know the students never see that it goes into. You know whatever they say their education is, but bottom line is they're making money because they're selling influence. That's what they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're selling influence and it's been that for, however, I mean decades, probably centuries, when you look at, like some of the universities that were in Europe. You know, two centuries ago, three centuries ago, but I mean the whole thing. You know, we have a pretty good clip to play. Can you play? So you'll have to close out at OBS and then play flag one.
Speaker 4:City College police removed a Palestinian flag that was hanging from the flagpole on the main campus and an American flag was once again raised on that flagpole. The deputy commissioner of the NYPD posted this video on social media with a caption An incredible scene and proud moment as we have assisted City College in restoring order on campus, culminating in raising old glory once again on their campus flagpole.
Speaker 5:All shoved to the ground. They were just put up this morning after the encampment. And then I want to show you this flagpole. You can see there's a group surrounding the flagpole. They are trying to put on an American flag after it was torn down by protesters earlier this afternoon. Let's take a look at this video. This is video we took around 1.45 of protesters surrounding this flagpole and replacing the American flag with the Palestinian flag. They then formed a human chain blocking media out of the area, shoving us and blocking our cameras with signs. Then Interim Chancellor Lee Roberts came out with Chapel Hill police behind him as they went to put back the American flag, and that is when things really escalated. Protesters started throwing water bottles and items at police while police shoved them back. Now we spoke with a couple of protesters before things escalated and this is what they told us about why they were out here and their goals.
Speaker 6:We will not back down. We will not be. We will keep going and keep fighting until our demands are met, and our demands are for divestment from the state of Israel, a boycott of Israeli products and full financial transparency. And this strong showing of the support shows how powerful our movement is and that they can't suppress us, they can't intimidate us and they cannot stop us.
Speaker 5:Now again, as you can see, things are a lot quieter. Classes, though, have been canceled. For the rest of the day, However, I did see police gathering, some riot gear, some masks and some shields, as if they're anticipating things to continue or to get chaotic again. We'll bring you the very latest right here on CBS 17. Ivan Chapel Hill, Haley Fixler. Cbs 17 News.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so now there is a good story it's going to. I'll have Minx play here one second. It's the follow-up to this, but that's.
Speaker 1:there's a lot of campuses that happened on yeah and you know I I get upset if someone burns american flags. But I understand protest, I understand that people are trying to express themselves. I don't like that, but I I'm telling you what bringing a flag down and putting a foreign flag up, that's different. Yep, that is crossing a line that these people should be in fucking prison for doing that. That right, there is treason, that's 100% treason, and I don't know how they cannot line that up with treason because it is. I don't know how they cannot line that up with treason because it is. And like I am floored that there's not more people visibly agitated about this, because that is just pissing on everyone that died for that flag and it really sucks. But I mean what? What comments do you have, scott? I mean you, you personally know many people that have died for that flag and you know you fought for that flag and like that. That's just so disgusting to see this that our youth are being taught and influenced to do this. It's crazy to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, I don't like seeing it burnt. I understand, you know, part of the freedom of speech, the whole thing. I don't really agree with it. But the pulling it down and then putting a foreign flag up just bugs the piss out of me. I thought it was really cool to see the New York PD take that down, put the US flag back up. But what was pretty interesting was to see Mayor Adams in New York, who's, you know, a hardcore Democrat and you know sanctuary city and all this kind of bullshit, and he really, you know, showed some muscle there and you could see the disgust in the statement that he made too, and that made me feel really good to see something like that.
Speaker 2:But you know, I just, you know, once things, the flag stuff starts happening, it's just kind of like you know kind of view that as a violent action in a way, and it should be met with violent action as well, you know it's just you know, like one of them fuck around and find out kind of type things.
Speaker 1:I feel, I feel the same way, you know, and, like you just mentioned, um, you know, stop running flag, burning flag, all bad things, but I mean I think we all get that.
Speaker 2:That's certain.
Speaker 1:The military it's like you know it's, you know that you're expressed, but running a foreign flag up, a foreign flag that represents haters that have killed us before, like what the fuck man.
Speaker 3:Well, the amount of hate that's associated with that flag is just, I mean you go back over the years, it's you know, if you look at, that was a snippet, but the crowd and that leaf eater, as you said, who was speaking, I mean that represents the weakest part of our society.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but what it does is like when you have the world seeing that, oh, it emboldens no question victory, but it's.
Speaker 3:It doesn't surprise me with those type of people, the blue hairs, the red hairs, the freaking weird shit, you know. But, by the way, I told you, uh, one of the times I was on here, like you know, I was in italy last year. I'm driving by this building and I see this giant gay flag on a building that covers up half the building, and I look, I asked the driver where. What building is that? Oh, that's us embassy. The gay flag was larger than the united states flag. So this is this administration. They perpetuate this kind of nonsense, they embolden DEI.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And these guys feel like they can do this shit and there's no recourse.
Speaker 1:And there is none.
Speaker 3:Right, that's my point, so they can do it. There's none.
Speaker 1:In fact, if you say something, you're probably going to be the one that's offended, or that something happens. Well, it's the administration.
Speaker 2:I mean really. I mean, if there was a, if Trump was president, the justice system would be reacting a whole lot different to things that have happened at the border, things that are happening like here at all these college campuses. This administration doesn't care. Because this administration is nothing but to divide the people, cause chaos and then get reelected and cause more of that.
Speaker 1:It pains me to say this, but I would say that Bill Clinton's administration wouldn't have let that happen either. No, I agree, it's a different world now. He's a corrupt. That happen either no.
Speaker 3:I agree yeah. I mean it's a different world.
Speaker 1:He's a corrupt motherfucker. Whatever People can say whatever, but he wouldn't allow that to happen. No, no. Well, with that said, though makes, can you play the it's called follow up UNC.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is the good one.
Speaker 7:I just saw something on Twitter that I wanted to share with you. This is a thread by Guillermo Estrada, who's a student at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The thread reads Today was a sad yet empowering day at Chapel Hill. When I walked to class, I saw a Palestinian flag raised on our quad flagpole and was immediately upset at the act that these quote-unquote protesters had made. I cannot say I am fully educated on the Israel-Palestine conflict, but it upset me that my country's flag was disrespected in order to advocate for another. Shortly after, Chancellor Roberts came with police officers, to hang the flag once again, they were met with profanity, middle fingers, thrown bottles, rocks and water. When the flag was raised once again, the Greek community began singing the national anthem. As the Chancellor left, the quad erupted into chaos as protesters began removing the flag once again, preparing to destroy it. My fraternity brother and others ran over to hold it up in order for it to not touch the ground. People began throwing water bottles at us, rocks, sticks, calling us profane names. We stood for an hour defending the flag so many fight to protect. My parents started a new life in the United States, a country that has helped them flourish and raise two kids. I grew up in a military community and saw firsthand the sacrifices they make. I will not stand for the disrespect these quote-unquote protesters cause for the sake of another country. My last day on campus will be memorable in knowing that my fraternity brothers and others fought to keep the flag up, but it will also be memorable in knowing that so many yearn to disrespect it.
Speaker 7:In response to the thread, Steve writes we still have patriotic youth out there. This man is a hero, To which Guillermo responds thank you for your kind words. However, I cannot consider ourselves heroes, as all we did is protect a symbol of the commitment and sacrifice others have made to protect our freedoms. They are the true heroes. Amen, Guillermo. But heroes come in many forms and whether or not you're a hero, you're definitely a patriot, and as long as we have folks like you among us, this country might just be okay after all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that was from a YouTube channel, ward Carroll, guillermo Estrada. I've actually tried to reach out to him to see if we can get a call in at some point. Um, that's, that's kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel, though you know it that that's awesome. Um, I'll bet you he's catching a lot of hell, though.
Speaker 3:I don't. I think there's more of them than not. They're just not as loud.
Speaker 1:That's the problem.
Speaker 3:I know, but that's always been the case. Right, that's always been the case. They stepped up when they needed to. Right, when it started getting silly, they stepped up. Yeah, they did. And again you look at that crowd and I was talking about the red hairs and the blue hairs. What's with all the fucking masks?
Speaker 1:They think they can't get identified. Is that?
Speaker 3:what it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fucking masks. Uh, they, they think they can't get identified. Is that what it is? I mean, or you know?
Speaker 3:I'm here to tell them these are, these are all the fucking uh, the vaccine, the vaccine people. It's the same people? No, it's not that. Yeah, some of the facial recognition, some of them have said that oh, you know that we don't want to get covid and stuff like that but but you know, it's obvious that they don't want to be no, I, I know that, but I'm saying they were the same ones that got all the boosters and all the shit.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying that means they're going to die anyways.
Speaker 3:They probably don't want their parents to see them. Their brains aren't working right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3:But who can't tell?
Speaker 2:I could tell if my kid was running around like this, I mean like these. It's funny because I saw I've got a good friend out there and one of the guys they grabbed looked just like him and I had to look at the clip again to see it wasn't him, but you know, I mean, it was a weird thing.
Speaker 3:I'm just thinking like when we were kids. If that was happening, I think we'd be, brawling. Your parents would beat your ass. Well, I think we'd be brawling. I don't think we'd let that shit happen. I agree, I don, we'd be brawling. I think I don't think we'd let that shit happen. I agree, I don't think we'd be standing there, and they know it would be really bad. Yeah, there's zero chance yeah, I don't see. I don't see stuff like that happening and we'd end it real quick yeah, man, I mean, and that's, that's sometimes we.
Speaker 1:We grew up in a different era I know, we grew up in a the cold war era as kids where nationalism was a thing and that was that would. I mean we were brainwashed with that. I, I mean, I don't mind that, but uh yeah, we were brainwashed into nationalism to. You know, protect that flag in our country at all costs we just wouldn't let it happen, we wouldn't let their brainwashed in something a complete opposite of what nationalism is, and that and that's the issue.
Speaker 1:They have people that hate our country, and you know what. We've talked about it already. These kids don't even know what they're protesting and it's like man. For instance, intifada what, okay, asshole, you're out there saying preaching intifada, intifada. What does intifada mean, tell me? I wish some of these reporters would ask them that, because if they can explain what intifada means, they'd realize that they're a big dumb ass for shouting that out. You know what I mean, and it's just like what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 3:I don't even know what it means To be honest.
Speaker 1:Lucky for you, I have the definition right here Intifada. Where's it at?
Speaker 3:Sounds like some kind of food.
Speaker 1:Well, no, so intifada. It is the Arabic word. Intifada translate to uprising or shaking off. It has been used to describe periods of intense Palestinian protests against Israel, mainly in the form of violent terrorism. The first intifada from 1987 to 1990 and the second Intifada from 2000 to 2005. The main thing is violent terrorism. That is what Intifada is, and when they start saying Intifada, intifada, they have no idea what they're fucking calling for. And I hope they don't find out, but maybe they will, I don't know.
Speaker 2:You kind of wish they, because now there's starting to be a lot of these YouTube things coming out from some of the survivors of the attack and things like that Some of the hostages people that are held hostage and they talk about the brutalities of what happened to them, and stuff like that. Some of the hostages people that are held hostage and they talk about the brutalities of what happened to them, and stuff like that. And that's the kind of stuff they should be blasting in there on these loudspeakers so that these people have to listen to what they're protesting against you don't hear any of that, though.
Speaker 3:No, you don't. I mean, I haven't seen a darn thing about any of that.
Speaker 2:Well, I've seen things on Instagram and stuff like that advertising it, you're going to dig for it.
Speaker 2:But the thing about it is is, in a way, I don't want to listen to it and look at it, because in the business, before you do, like you know, site exploitation and some of that stuff, you know you just can't forget what you see or what you hear, and I just you know I don't want to go down that path or what you hear and I just, you know, don't want to go down that path. I believe it's been brutal enough and I'll stay with that, you know.
Speaker 1:Did you look at that? Did you see that video Jed sent today?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you commented on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you know, our friend Jed sent a video. I mean, it was somewhere in Africa or Haiti, I'm not sure which?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it might have been Haiti it might have been Haiti.
Speaker 1:It might have been Haiti.
Speaker 2:Could have been the barbecue guy.
Speaker 1:Yep, I mean, oh my God. Yeah, I mean they stripped this guy naked in front of everybody.
Speaker 3:Those guys don't play.
Speaker 1:No, dumped some kind of stuff off.
Speaker 3:We need to bring them over to get these. No, we don't want them.
Speaker 2:Well, there's enough of them here already.
Speaker 3:They should come over, that's true.
Speaker 1:Look, look, man. I mean the difference that used to be, and I feel like we're still there. We just got to make sure we maintain it. The difference that Americans have that's better, in my opinion, from a lot of these places in the world is we value life. Now, some of our politicians might, some of our rich elites might. They don't really give a fuck, but americans in general value life. Um other cultures they don't not at all not one bit.
Speaker 1:And these little assholes that are out there protesting um, like that leaf eater that was just on, he has no idea what he's talking about. He has no idea the evil that some of these cultures I'm not saying every culture is bad, but I'm saying within some cultures there is some bad shit that has zero value for life.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he has no idea what he's talking about.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing about it is is you know you, you take a lot of these people that are. You know different they're. You know different they're. You know LGBTQ community and this and that and the other thing, and if you throw them into one of the environments, you know they're dead. They will be stoned. But they don't get that you know no. Yeah, they don't understand that.
Speaker 1:I mean like man. It's like we learn nothing about the extremism from ISIS. It's like the world learned nothing from them yeah. Because what was happening to? You know the LGBT, gay plus community, whatever it's called now? They were getting thrown off buildings. Yeah, they were put in cages, caught on fire, like you name it. That happened and that happens still today. It's just there's no social media there to catch it.
Speaker 2:Well, everybody's memory is short, I mean when you think about it, since all of this uprising has happened in the last you know, two weeks that it's really been intense. What's going on at the border?
Speaker 4:Nothing, because all the focus has shifted to this, you know, and everybody forgets about those things.
Speaker 2:So, everybody's got, you know, short memories when it comes to tragedy throughout the world. You know and you know. You look at 9-1-1 and what happened there was horrible. But I saw something on another podcast that talked about how it one-ups each time to where initially there was an attack at the embassies and consulates around the world, and then you had the first World Trade Center bombing that wasn't successful, and then you had 9-1-1. And what's coming next is going to be worse than that. And you see these things that happen just recently in Russia, where they just slaughtered a bunch of people at a consulate, the Palestinians, all of those people that were just out there at a consulate 1,200 people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at a consulate just having a good time, and some of those people are being held hostage still. But all of that is forgotten stuff. Now it's water under the bridge because you just go on to the next event.
Speaker 1:That's in the press and you forget about it. Yep, and it's a purposeful news cycle of two weeks, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, this kind of goes back to what I was saying before, Like there's just more to the story. This stuff just keeps on happening. Yeah, so I mean that's the bigger picture. It's not specific to just the protests.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying here's the thing that I know. Scott knows exactly where I'm coming from this but a lot of people may not know this. You know, we know what we know because we see what we think is right or wrong on social media. Do you know what the percentage of the world is that doesn't have? They're not allowed to have phones with cameras. There's very large swaths and there's a reason why Because there's some bad shit going on in those places and they don't want to. You know, like parts whatever that part is in Africa that, what's that? The AQ runoff there.
Speaker 2:AQIM.
Speaker 1:No, not AQIM.
Speaker 2:Boko Haram.
Speaker 1:Boko Haram and then the other one that's in Mogadishu, oh yeah, I can't remember, but anyways, there's large sections of Africa. You're not allowed to even have a phone with a camera, nothing, and the whole like we're not. We don't see that stuff and the bad shit that happens to people. And I'm telling you it exists, dude.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Like in Afghanistan when I was there, the Taliban is one thing, but when it's AQ, taliban, so it's basically Taliban supporting AQ, because for the most part, a lot of the Taliban were just farmers. They were just doing their thing, they had the fight or whatever, but then you had the hardcore guys that supported AQ. Then you had AQ. And when you go into those areas where there hadn't been American presence forever, or maybe even never, people weren't allowed to have phones. If you got caught with a phone unless you were leadership, you were. You know something happened to you. You know, hands chopped off, head chopped off, whatever. People don't know of that side of the world because they don't see it on social media. You know what I mean. And it exists. That evil exists, man, yeah.
Speaker 2:A lot of them can't afford that shit either.
Speaker 1:No, no, they can't.
Speaker 2:You know it's.
Speaker 1:I mean it. I mean we don't even know what happens in North Korea.
Speaker 3:I mean we don't even know what happens in North Korea. Do we, somebody does? They're just not telling us.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's a reason why they don't allow their people to communicate with the outside, and it's because, oh, we don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We don't know China, china's the same way. We have some ins and outs of China and some, you know, we know a little bit. But there's China is so big and some of those little villages, who the fuck knows what's going on there, man, you know? And there's places like that all over the world where there is a reason why they don't have phones and why things don't come out of there. You know. But uh, you know, these little assholes don't realize that, they don't realize that there is actually evil people out there. But you know what You're going to protest on behalf of them. Thanks, fuckface.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's horrible people out there, that's for sure. They just don't get it.
Speaker 1:No, no, and we talked about this before. They don't even know what the fuck it is they're protesting for and I've got a couple of videos for that. Um, I think it's no idea. No idea. Number one or two? One do two. One for, yeah, number one, number one, no more here we go, we're protesting.
Speaker 4:Thank you, we're protesting we're angry, we're not going to take it anymore.
Speaker 1:There's just people to protest for protest's sake and it's like what the fuck are you doing, man? And then the next one is my favorite Three or 21? 21. Dude, 21. This one's my favorite.
Speaker 8:Oh shit, a new disturbing video showing, out of control, ucla students taking turns beating a pinata with an image of israeli prime minister netanyahu. But do these hamas sympathizing students really know what they're marching for?
Speaker 2:when hamas invaded israel on the 7th of october? What was your initial reaction to them?
Speaker 6:I don't't think they did the day. I think so Honestly. I think I need to be a bit more clued up on everything that's going on, so I feel like I'm not really qualified to answer that too well. I mean, I'm not sure if I've seen anything that shows that that's actually happened or actually correct. How can you be sick? All right, Jessica.
Speaker 1:What happened there've? Had no idea, oh, I don't know. It's like, come on, man, not a surprise. You understand that, the hatred, that would be like me going and protest or anybody protesting against black people and call them the n-word, like that's the same thing, that that's what Jewish people feel right now.
Speaker 2:They were just there for the $20, $25 gift card Exactly.
Speaker 3:It's. It's a social event. Yeah, oh dude, it's, it's, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, and you know so. I found a couple of groups that actually um, there's a lot more research to be done on this. I know someone's doing research. I only scraped the bottom of the barrel on this but there's a place called see. There's a couple sites here yeah, crowds on Demand, backstage Influenceable LLC. And then they directly contact influencers to pay them money. There are so many other organizations. There are activist organizations that hire actors, that hire actors.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean For for shit like this and like people. The media is not covering this enough. They need to like people need to know that they're getting bamboozled into thinking shit like this and no one's covering it. And somebody, just like someone in big mainstream media, needs to go after this and expose all these assholes for doing this, making money off this shit, getting people to and you know what they're using the economy they're using how our poor economy again, like that's probably one of the reasons why they they're making a poor economy for people is so you can influence them. To do shit like they're getting people that are poor, that have no other fucking form of money, but to go protest for something they don't even know what they're protesting about I think a lot of these people are well to do and uh, they're just idiots, and they're out there protesting but.
Speaker 2:But going back to what you're saying about organized protesting, again, this justice system that we have is not going to go after people. I mean there's a way to figure out who's who in the zoo and remove those people from the space and probably charge them with sedition or something like that.
Speaker 1:How many people from G6 got arrested? I know, that's what I mean. You know like they found them. Oh yeah, they're going after them.
Speaker 2:They were going after them, but they, they don't give a shit about stuff like this and they very well. Should you know what's, what's the difference? It's a good question.
Speaker 1:I think there's a big difference and no, I'm saying there's a huge difference.
Speaker 3:But no, no, you're saying this is worse.
Speaker 1:I'm saying this is way worse yeah, that's. That's because a lot of the people that they're going after for j6. We're going to protest.
Speaker 3:I agree, I'm just like yeah, I agree I just think it's I think it's whack, but guess what republicans are weak. This is the left.
Speaker 1:Do you know what you just did? You just said a word that you're not allowed to say in this room, all right. Well, guess what? You get kicked in the nuts later, dude.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm saying it because I'm saying it because all right, whatever Certain people can do whatever they want with no recourse. All right, whatever Certain people can do whatever they want with no recourse, and and others don't have to worry about shit, because the other side is weak as fuck and they don't do anything, nope. And so why not? Well, I mean the, the get away with it whatever you want. The thing is, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Take it, dude, there's, there's, like it doesn't matter, dude. I think that we're in a huge crossroad. Not a crossroad. It might even be a great opportunity. And I'm not talking a monetary opportunity. I'm talking about an opportunity to change the course of what's going on, and it's for things like this podcast we're sitting around right now. Right now, we're in a time where anybody can turn their phone on and put a message out. The problem that exists is people are trained and conditioned to like to see bad shit. That's how we are, as humans bad to like to see bad shit. That's how we are, as humans, like. If there's if, if you, if you want to, if it's between puppies and rainbows or someone getting their head chopped off, what are you going to watch? You're going to watch someone getting their head chopped off.
Speaker 2:No, I'm going to watch puppies and rainbows.
Speaker 1:But I mean, like the majority of people are going to be and they might look away. But yeah, they might look away. But yeah, there's that curiosity is going to be there. There's the curiosity.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, and my experience is different because I've been on the other side. Right and I don't really care to see that again. You know, I just I'm happy to see, you know, dogs doing stupid shit on social media because it puts a smile on my face where other stuff just causes me to start having anxiety and different things going on in my head and it's just like you know but you're part of the 1% that.
Speaker 1:I've seen it in real life.
Speaker 3:What's the? Uh? I think it's. I think it's Don Henley uh, evening use.
Speaker 1:I don't even you don't?
Speaker 3:you don't want to talk about it, oh, all right. Well, I'm not going to start singing, but that's basically the premise of the song. I'm not even going to try it, but anyone who knows Don Henley, Don Henley, hey Minx can you look this up?
Speaker 1:You are the fact checker.
Speaker 3:You can play it right now. Oh man, this goes back. I like it. It's like evening news, or I think that. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:Yep, it just popped up, but but what I was saying before we play this is um, we, we have a good opportunity. It's just people got to figure out how to crack the nut on it. Man, like get people to start talking about this stuff and not be afraid around a table like this, or or instead of, you know, posting their big ass on fucking tiktok. Why don't you talk about some cool shit and then show your big ass? No one you know I mean.
Speaker 3:Well, there's a few people that do, and I think we're getting more of that.
Speaker 1:There needs to be a mass amount of more.
Speaker 3:I think regular news is just dying. It's not real anymore.
Speaker 1:And people know that Scripted People know that Scripted.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I mean this is just my opinion. Like shows like this are becoming more popular because you're getting real opinion without any influence whatsoever, yep, and I mean this is the way to be honest. This is kind of how I get my news, like I have a handful of shows.
Speaker 4:I listen to.
Speaker 3:I'm the same way now and and um and and shows that generally give you different perspectives and have a diverse group of uh uh guests right so you're not getting the same shit fed you, you know over and over again, and then you can make your opinion from from there, versus someone telling you how to think.
Speaker 1:Right, that's the thing. Yep, that's 100% it, man.
Speaker 3:But gee, our society is weak dog. We live in a society of fucking lemmings, bro. They want to be told what to do.
Speaker 1:They are weak. I'm going to say something that's offensive to everybody in this room. That's our fault.
Speaker 3:Well, it's our responsibility to at the very least get our kids straight.
Speaker 1:And it's our fault. I'm going to defend. I'm not going to defend you, sorry. I am going to defend Scott and Kerry because what was going on for 21 years? We were all blindsided and sidetracked by war, which is the most of the country was, and we had a blind eye. Our back turned to what was really happening here and now we see where we're at and it's because it's our fault. We allowed this to happen, we allowed our society to do this, because we were sidetracked with war and you know, shame on the people that put us through that, but ultimately it's our I mean it's our fault.
Speaker 3:And people are asleep at the wheel. Yeah, so while you guys are out there doing real work, real shit, everyone else was just comfortable and asleep at the wheel. Yeah, so, while you guys are out there doing real work, real shit, yeah, um, everyone else was just comfortable and asleep at the wheel. But I do feel like people are waking up. Oh, I do too. I mean just look at loudon county, for example. Right, we're almost there, we're almost a red man. I mean it's seriously like it, it went.
Speaker 3:I moved here because I was living in Montgomery County, maryland, which turned into a complete shit show. I had friends that were cops and like man, you got to get out of here. I didn't know what was going on. They're telling me like you got to get the fuck out of here, we're getting out of here. And then I came here. It was awesome for a while and then slowly the cockroaches came in and started taking over and then finally people started waking up. But I think that's happening everywhere, and this protesting shit, for example, and all the other bullshit that we've been dealing with. I think it's swinging the pendulum the other way and it doesn't have to swing too far. It only has to swing a little bit and that's enough. I think it'll be enough.
Speaker 1:If it were, I would agree.
Speaker 3:That's the optimistic side of me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I would agree if one this wasn't an election cycle, and I think, for that reason alone, that these protests are going to metastasize into something that we've never even seen before, and I think this is the start of it this summer, and it is going to be rough, all right call that thought for a moment.
Speaker 3:These people are not fans of biden, and you saw chants so what does that mean? Do they not vote at all? Do they vote for Kennedy? Do they vote for Trump, or they don't vote at all?
Speaker 2:I would guess they're not voting at all.
Speaker 3:Okay, I would say, just based on the demographic that I see out there, that's probably a good thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The leaf eaters, because you know generally where they're voting, right so if they're not voting, but then again, does it matter, I think.
Speaker 2:One good thing, though, is you see all the campus protests and stuff like that, and all of the news cycles focus around that, but none of the news cycles really take a step or two back and see what the larger demographic of America really thinks about that stuff.
Speaker 1:That's right, Like why? Why didn't the?
Speaker 3:news play this, I agree.
Speaker 1:Like that Guillermo thing, man, I guess because it goes no it it.
Speaker 3:It goes back to what you were saying. I mean Because it goes back to what you were saying. Or you were saying one of you guys were saying because that doesn't sell.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't. But you know, when I say metastasize what is going to happen, I usually bet my left testicle on this. But I'm not going to do that just yet. To do that just yet, someone's going to die and it's going to be a protest and it's going to be at the hands of law enforcement, and you know that's going to happen. And it's going to happen because someone's going to force that to happen, and then it's going to happen again, and then we're going to be sideways, and that's just how this is going to happen. I mean, it's this is their playbook, this is how they're going to fuck the entire election section.
Speaker 3:Who does that negatively affect? Well, there's a person in office. Think about it. I don't think so, it I'm no, it it has to. Who?
Speaker 1:are they going to blame in Trump's?
Speaker 3:fighting for his life. You can't blame him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but in a normal election you're correct.
Speaker 3:Listen, forget about the normal election shit. There's not going to be a normal election ever again, probably. We don't know what the fuck's going on out there, all right.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this, minx, will you pull up whatever the treaty that's going to be signed, I think May 27th, with the WHO? I can't remember what it's called. I'm pretty sure you'll find it. Just type in treaty May 27th, who treaty Where's it at here? The pandemic agreement there we go. Okay, so now there's lots of information on this. You have to pull up the whole thing. There's a lot of scholars and stuff talking about this. We're signing it.
Speaker 1:I mean, biden's pretty much already agreed and what's going to happen is it gives the WHO and the handful of people that are unelected carte blanche over events that happen in other countries and other nations and they can basically control things that happen. And when you start bringing in unrest through protests and then, like I said, a law enforcement officer kills or allegedly kills a protest or whatever, and things start to roll downhill from that, and then you have something by these assholes that can completely affect everything, depending on how the pendulum's rolling, like you said, how that pendulum's flowing, and and people don't they don't even know to look at this yet, because, even though it's been going for the last two years now, this treaty is going to be signed. No one even knows about it, and it's crazy, man. And and the fact that someone else can control our country after that treaty sign is is nuts. It's just fucking batshit crazy. Um, but look into it, man, like that's a for real thing. That's happening.
Speaker 3:I again, I like that's a for real thing, that's happening. I again, I. I believe that's why trump is so popular. Oh, he would never let that happen. No, the problem is, will we get a fair election, a real election? We just don't know yeah, yep that's the issue.
Speaker 3:That's and look at, look at, look at all the. I mean he's more popular now than ever, right? So if he doesn't win this election, I mean we all have to step back and wonder what the fuck's up. I mean, he's got everyone that was on the fence before, people who were unsure and the ones who voted for him prior are even more emphatic about voting for him this time, right.
Speaker 2:Well, there's so many things that have happened because you figure the economy's tanked, the border has tanked and this has happened, inflation and all these types of things.
Speaker 3:It's chaos and it's affected everybody.
Speaker 2:But then you look at how Trump is being prosecuted all of a sudden multiple times for multiple things, back to back to back, and everybody sees that a lot of that stuff is BS and everybody sees that if it can happen to him, it can happen to me. It will. And he's fighting through all of that and it has, and he's fighting through all of that, and I think that's why so many people have moved towards the Trump side is because of that.
Speaker 3:I think in particular African Americans and I'll tell you in general, Hispanic people, who are generally conservative anyways and who are hard-working, generally very good family. Yes, people, um, and just, you know, I don't, I like so unless they're paid I, I just, I just think there's just so much bullshit behind the scenes we just don thoughts about, but we just don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2:I mean, even look at the border, with the amount of people that have come across, have gone to all these different places in the United States. They're given cell phones, they're given money, they're on free medical, they're on this or that, the other thing. That's all being given to them by the US government. And then you look at all of our citizens that have been here, yes, since they were born and, and they're in shit. They're, they don't get anything, even though they're living in poverty, even though they've got mental health crises. How?
Speaker 2:about all the veterans and the and I was getting to the veterans.
Speaker 3:Next, the va is a complete fucking show. Yep so um. And meanwhile these people, we got Chinese motherfuckers coming across the border getting like stand the fuck by. It's a it's a show, yeah, um, but that's fine. I don't see anyone protesting on that shit.
Speaker 2:No, because we've got this new protest, that's taken everybody's mind off of her.
Speaker 1:Everything else like that, like this. It's taken everybody's mind off of everything else. I'm telling you, this thing is going to go on. It's going to go on. Something's going to make it continually go on and it'll be an act of violence. It was something and then, if it doesn't go on, it's going to stem to something else. I'm telling you, man, people need to expect we're in for a fucking ride this summer, man, and it's a dangerous one. It's a dangerous one, and the fact of the matter is, is you got these assholes that are pulling the strings, that are making this stuff happen? It's like, man, I mean, I wish, I wish we were in the time of Genghis Khan, cause I'll tell you what those motherfuckers wouldn't stand a chance.
Speaker 3:Do you think it's going to be where they're burning down the cities and lighting shit on fire?
Speaker 1:that type of protesting I would not put it past them. Really, I think it's so unexpected their playbook. Could we have ever imagined what happened the last cycle?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, and we let it happen and we're still trying to figure our way through that one. I say all you got to do is shoot some motherfuckers and then the rest of them will disperse.
Speaker 1:But that's what that's it. It kind of feels to me that that people are trying to push the direction of that, and so a real good thing is we might have talked about this before, but I don't think Scott and I have. If you watched a movie contagion and then you think back of what happened with COVID and you look back when Cajun contagion was made at, which was two or three years before, um, it's like holy shit, that's, that's almost exactly Wow. Um, and then you know the Obama's made that, uh, that movie recently, last year. Um, basically about how everything's going to go to shit.
Speaker 1:And then this movie, civil war, comes out. Um, it's like I feel like people are trying to push us in a direction for when people are going to be taking weapons and going to the streets and then that's just going to make the entire fucking world collapse. Um, you know it, it sounds like a horrible conspiracy theory. The problem is, I don't think it's in the realm of possible that it could happen, and that's crazy to me. I never would have thought this 20 years ago.
Speaker 3:When you push, a society, it's like what the fuck? When you just push people and push people, and push people and they feel like that's their only choice, then yeah.
Speaker 1:And we're being pushed that way.
Speaker 3:But I think they want that. They want chaos, the black community has already been pushed to that point. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they don't even talk about it. Well, they won't talk about it. You go to any inner city If you talk to Josh Howard and you ask him about life in the hood, they've been at war, their own war. People are dying. They've been at war and it's because those fuckheads put them there, man.
Speaker 3:So it's really interesting. We'll never have a leader that stands up and says, hey, white people, black people, hispanic people, asian people, uh, middle eastern, wherever you're from you're, if you're an american, you're an american. We need to stand together and fight against all this crazy shit. We are, we are one. They will never do that. You know why? Because they want chaos, yeah, and they and they want infighting, and that's how they have control. So no one's going to do it and it just it doesn't. Every motherfucker, pardon me, goes up every election and says oh, I'm going to unify, no, you're not. No, no, you're not, you're not. And we know you're not, you're not and we know you're not. True story every time.
Speaker 3:And and they all say they all say the same thing. Oh, I'm gonna work with the other side, no fuck off?
Speaker 1:no, you're not no, you're not.
Speaker 3:No, you're not. You're gonna make it worse than it was.
Speaker 1:They do it every time what I can't go over was, you know, with Biden. The dude ran for election three different times before this and he was a liar. Everyone knew him to be a liar all three times and all of a sudden he's not a liar. It's like what?
Speaker 3:No, no.
Speaker 1:He's been a liar his whole life. He wasn't Trump, but I mean people that voted for. I mean I know some people that will never vote for Trump and they will only vote for Biden. They're pretty sensible people, but they are 100% bot. Biden's a good dude.
Speaker 3:Are they sensible? Yeah, are they, and, by the way, I wouldn't be friends with them.
Speaker 1:They're family. Why?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I don't have a choice. No, I do. I have family that I had. I had family that was I had to disown. Well, I'm not going to want to, I'm not going to do it. You know what I can't. I am not going to socialize with people who have no sense and listen. There's different ways to look at this. On the one hand, everyone has a right to have their own opinion, but when you like, okay, let's take us for example. We can take a look at, say, trump, for example. We can point out his negative side Absolutely and be pragmatic about the whole thing. They, they're fucking hardcore one way to me, they're, they're. I don't want to associate with people like that if you can't have a conversation and and like and respect someone else's point of view and give a fair fucking point of view right. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Not just a lopsided bullshit perspective. Then I don't want to talk to you, I don't want to socialize with you. I have life's too short, don't need it, don't want it, fuck off.
Speaker 1:Well, I've learned not to talk about politics around our family.
Speaker 3:Well, I just disowned him. Yeah, I can around our family well, I just disowned them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't do that. I won't do that. Well, I, I won't do that because you know why and I I respect your decision on that. I'm just saying like I feel like that is what when I say they, I don't know who they are, but it's somebody, it's some group out there that's fucking pulling the strings. That's what they want you to do.
Speaker 3:I understand that, but my view is I say fuck them but if they're so dumb that they are manipulated like that, then I I can't socialize with someone so ignorant I, I, I mean, like I said I, I, that's my perspective. Yeah, like uh man, I could tell you so many stories, and you and you you what the hell was that voice minks?
Speaker 1:You set it up Well you should make it like you say like three, two, one, like with a sexy minks voice, not that thing. That guy sounds like a tool. Well, that was our hour. That was that hour went by quick pretty quick. Yeah yeah. That was a good conversation and, like this conversation has to keep on going, man, I want to do well.
Speaker 1:I mean, we got a lot of shit coming up in the last next couple weeks um I want to keep doing these, though, like just if we, if we don't get um, if there's no guests lined up or something, just saying fuck it, let's just record, pull up the news, watch some bullshit and pick it apart and point out how the the media is just a bunch of assholes trying to make all this shit go south.
Speaker 3:You know what I want to talk about. I want to talk about the potential VP for Trump. Yeah, I want to like.
Speaker 1:I hope it's Tulsi.
Speaker 3:I do too. I think very highly of her for lots of reasons. I do too. I think very highly of her for lots of reasons, and even before, even when she was a Dem, I always thought she spoke sensibly to me. That's just a stupid label, right.
Speaker 1:You know we could get her on the phone and it would cost us $750 for 15 minutes. First, off.
Speaker 3:She's smart as fuck.
Speaker 2:She served in the military.
Speaker 3:she's very well spoken I watched the the value thing with her. She was amazing, um, awesome. She's hot, beautiful surfer. She, she's too good looking to be a damn. Does gummies. She's like a normal listen sunny and loretta always I think she, you know, she's like most of us, right, like we're, not like uh and our we're, we're just for common sense. Yeah, like, right. I mean I hate the labels, right she?
Speaker 1:saw the dark side and was like fuck you. Well, they're over the top yeah, they're over there. She's not. I'm not gonna be a part of that. Yeah, fuck you. And then he kicked her out oh no, they disparaged her in every possible way.
Speaker 3:But, you know, I think she'd be an amazing running mate and, quite frankly, whomever that is is probably going to win the next eight years.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing is, you know that person has to be.
Speaker 1:The next president.
Speaker 2:Right, but I mean, that's what you really need to be looking at. Is you know, the that nomin, that VP nominee, has to be locked on, to take that next.
Speaker 1:And I think Tulsi's it.
Speaker 3:I'd be willing to. I, I, it's, I'm. I'm really pleased to hear you guys say that, because I've said this for a while and a lot of people disagreed with me and I think people are kind of coming around to it.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what. So if Tulsi was not on the ticket with Trump and it was someone else I would vote for RFK.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not going to be Kristi Noem, now, that's for sure. No, she's killing, fucking puppies.
Speaker 2:She's kind of killed herself. What the fuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 2:I'm a dog lover man, I am too I have a really hard time shooting a dog.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you, even if he's stupid, I'm not going to shoot a dog.
Speaker 1:The only thing that changes my vote from RFK is if Tulsi's on the ticket with Trump. That changes my vote. Hands down.
Speaker 3:If I thought RFK had a shot in hell, he'd get my vote. And so here's the interesting thing about us Everyone has their idea, they hear our perspectives, but the fact of the matter is we're pretty fucking moderate. Yes, I mean, we, we don't like, we are like, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're accepting accepting of everyone.
Speaker 1:But there's some nonsense that goes on that just needs to be checked I think I consider if you really think about what an old democrat was yeah, clinton, that I mean even before that. Yeah, yeah, sure, like because you're, they were the blue collar guys um, I feel like I'm an old democrat with conservative values, I think nationalistic values yeah, right, it's conservative, yeah, yeah I mean, that's how it should be right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well and live and let live yeah, at the end of end of the day, I think your job as an American is to vote for the person who you think will do the best for the country.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And not off of what your political ideology is or for what this person is going to quote do because he said he's going to do that, do because he said he's going to do that. I mean, I really if everybody just voted their heart and said I think this person is the right person for america and and and gets rid of all that other bullshit, that's you know.
Speaker 3:On the peripheral, then I think we'd be okay, but nobody can do that no, there's too, much money involved, and they vote based on the letter next to their name yeah, they don't and they don't even know where that person, what they stand for and what their views are on things and what they've done. Well, what they haven't done, they go. Oh R D, do you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I have the last election here. We go to the high school here and that's where our precinct is, and you go up, they hand you example ballots. So there's the Republican, there's the Democrat. The Democrat's is just a blue card and it says check this name. No information, nothing about that person. The Republican one's always, you know, qr code. This is what they're about. This is the policies they support. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like man, this is just, it's blatant. This is just blatant. They know. All you got to do is tell them who to vote for. Yeah, and it's like all of these liberals. Man, I got to get kicked in the balls now too.
Speaker 5:That's what I got. To get kicked in the balls now, too it's like five times.
Speaker 1:But hang on, hang on. But all of them claim to be like these intellectuals and stuff. It's like dude, you are allowing someone to think for you.
Speaker 3:I just told you I don't socialize with them for those reasons. You understand now.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 3:Look, I have a cousin. This is typical Lib. Right here, they tell you that they're all for everyone and all this shit. Meanwhile, she sends her daughter to private school because she doesn't want her to be in any particular element. That's the hypocrisy of the libs. What the fuck does that mean? What the fuck does that mean? Like I mean, honestly, I was. I'm blessed that I grew up in a such an eclectic, uh environment where I was with so many different people from all types. Like that made me a better person. Yeah, you know, if you put someone in a box, you only know what's in that box.
Speaker 2:That's awful yeah, I grew up in a small town of, you know, 12 000 people and we had a handful of Puerto Ricans, we had, I think, two black families in town and all the rest were, you know, white Europeans, you know. And I joined the Marine Corps right out of high school and I got to tell you it's like the best thing I've done in my life, because it just opened you know my eyes to like everything else, and the Marine Corps is like we don't give a shit.
Speaker 2:you know what color you are, where you came from, what your education is.
Speaker 3:All we need to do to do is like take that Hill. I mean it's mission focused and they could give a shit about everything else, can I?
Speaker 2:count on you, you can count on me. Let's go and.
Speaker 3:I love that and that's you know so my, my brother my brother served in the military. I didn't. He was in the Navy. John, yeah, I think he spent most of the time in the brig. That's a whole other story.
Speaker 1:He's probably a good dude then. Oh, he's a good dude.
Speaker 3:He's the MMA guy, I think.
Speaker 1:I told you about. Oh shit, yeah, I was going to say if you spent time in the brig back then he's probably a good dude.
Speaker 3:Actually we should get him on the phone he is a trip Dude, let's do a podcast on. July 1st for the Mike Tyson fight and then we'll get him on the phone. Oh so, if you watched back not these days, but let's say 10 years ago and back, maybe not even 10 years ago front row for every fight, Wow For every fight, Wow For every fight, Like he'd call me. Hey, you see me Sitting next to Jenna Jameson. What the?
Speaker 3:And Tito Ortiz sitting with Big Nog and Little Nog and his best friends Junior Dos Santos, if you know who that is.
Speaker 1:You have to listen to uh, we did a, a podcast and we called um, so it was actually um, josh was here and uh, gerald was here, and then mike, and we called this guy george lockhart, who was a Marine, who's a radio recon guy and he's a trainer for, like, tyson Fury.
Speaker 3:I knew, I knew that name.
Speaker 1:Yes, conor McGregor, yeah, just about everybody. And some of the stories he tells us, man, oh my.
Speaker 3:God.
Speaker 1:Oh I bet, I bet Jeez dude, he could go for hours. He was telling us how he was on Rogan and then he said yeah, man, if you watch it, there's like an hour where they won't put the camera on me. It's because I'm passed out drunk on a table.
Speaker 3:That's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good dude. He's going to try and come up. Actually he's in New Zealand and then he's going to Ireland and then this fall he'll be back.
Speaker 3:But be uh, this fall he'll be back, but he says he's going to come up and uh hop on here with us is he?
Speaker 1:is he kiwi? No, no, he was on the Ultimate Fighter and he did UFC for a while but then he just went into. He started his own business for training and diet and he's the best. He is literally the best, like he is the number one dude for all athletes in the world. And, um, because he's got it down to a science man and when, when we talk about on the podcast, when we publish that one, he talks about all these formulas he has and stuff, and then josh howard's like what the fuck? He's like man, slow down. I'm trying to write this shit down, but he's in the wrong time frame, like if he would have been, you know, when he was fighting. Yeah, he is a straight I say this in a good way a knuckle dragger Savage, but smart as fuck. He does not feel pain. He is a warrior, a, a warrior at heart, a true warrior all those guys are warriors my brother would tell me he's like the public doesn't understand how tough these guys are.
Speaker 3:Um, they are, they, they. Their tolerance for pain is well beyond any normal human being.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3:Their skill levels off the charts. Their endurance is off the charts and and mentally so strong. You know, if you're going to do that shit, I mean your head's gotta be right.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we used to pay George to eat random things, Um like like what. I'm about to tell you and he'd do it for like 10 bucks, Like you know, the milk challenge when you drink milk. Yeah Well, this kid did it. He lost, he puked, puked in a cup and we paid George to drink the cup. Oh fuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 10 bucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh he ate, not only a dead bird, a dead bird on the side of the road in iraq 10 bucks, I don't know how I think 50 cents, I think he got like 75 or something like that for it. Um, but yeah, scorpions, you name it dude, like he just uh all right yeah, he's that dude, but he's also superiorly intelligent too. You know what I mean. Like not in like common sense type stuff.
Speaker 3:I mean, if he's drinking vomit. I mean how smart can you be?
Speaker 1:Well, I, mean, is it going to kill?
Speaker 3:him. It's going to probably make him vomit. I mean all we know is, if he needed $10, I would have given him $10. Yeah, but this was in Iraq, dude. I mean, you had $10 to give him to drink vomit. If he really needed it, you probably would have given it to him. Anyways, nobody had any money?
Speaker 1:No, and if he had $10, man, all I'm saying is I don't know the whole story behind that. It might have been he needed Copenhagen and he had to do what he had to do. And I'm going to tell you, in a time of war, and you don't have Copenhagen, I'm going to drink that vomit, all right, all right. All right, I'm sorry, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1:I, I, you know I can definitely relate that, but, but, but like this, he is absolutely unreal and he has taken everything he's put his mind to. He has done and like to the best, the best level, all right.
Speaker 3:So this week, I mean, I think I'm in town, I think we do a. How long are you here for Scott?
Speaker 2:Till after Memorial Day.
Speaker 3:Oh, so you're here for a minute. Oh yeah. We should do an episode on who trump's vp candidate should be, and and and why. Because no one knows like.
Speaker 1:Let's see if we can get tulsi gabbard on the phone I I that would be amazing.
Speaker 3:Let's try it. I'd love to get her here, I want to I want to see her in person. I've looked at all her surf pictures, mike um. So you know, you know, look, I'm not gonna say she's not gonna say anything anyway.
Speaker 1:but you know, look, I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 2:She's not going to say anything anyway.
Speaker 3:No, no, but we're ridiculous, but I'll tell you. So I have this. I have been fortunate in my life that I've worked for some really, really smart ladies and I just have. Oh she raised her damn prices. Oh, what's it now? How?
Speaker 1:much. It's double now.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'll pay for it Last week. I'll pay for it.
Speaker 1:I just, I just I mean to get her on. It's worth $1,500.
Speaker 3:Oh, I, I, I, I do it. So, so I just I for 15 minutes. Oh, I'd do it. So I just I want to see her succeed. She has earned it. She just needs a chance. I want to see her succeed. She's not killing dogs. She's not a fucking lunatic like Hillary.
Speaker 2:Well, she's always been an America first person. You know she served her country.
Speaker 3:How many years in the military and how many terms you know Congress, yeah, and anyone who could just take a step back and go hey, you know what, I need to kind of shift my. I need to kind of shift my my focus here because of all these things that I'm experiencing, versus just being blind and just going with the like. To me, that's important, like you're wise, right, if you can say, oh, wait a minute. Okay, everything that I thought was the case is not. Maybe I need to take a step back.
Speaker 4:That's the type of person you need in leadership Someone who can say hey maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3:Maybe I need to take a step back. That that's the type of person you need in leadership.
Speaker 1:Yeah, someone who can say hey, I maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe I was wrong, you know, I let's, let's, let's take a look at this over here. All right Look cause no one, no one's right all the time and you know, uh and times and like, reevaluate shit.
Speaker 1:Fuck, I got to do it every day.
Speaker 3:I'm working this.
Speaker 1:I got a plan. I got a plan for this. Yeah, let's shoot for Thursday. Thursday Does Thursday work for you? Scott Mink says Thursday worked for you. Thursday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm really important, so I got to check my schedule. Friday Friday, dude, you can't mess with my friday yeah, friday is his date night with renee often, uh, you can bring her here for a date. I mean, dude, you have no idea, you're getting crazy now I'm not sure about friday, because uh boccio's in town.
Speaker 2:What but he's? He's gonna be be, he's traveling with the mayor and he's going to be in DC and he might have a few hours free.
Speaker 1:If you're going to go see him, I'd love to go see him too. Okay, that'd be badass. So I got to tell you the last time I saw him, I was in a golf cart and the wheels came off.
Speaker 2:It was awesome, oh Jesus. I it was awesome, oh Jesus. I told you when I bumped into them that time in San Francisco.
Speaker 1:Oh yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like they literally came off.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. So we were at our friend Billy Benedict's wedding, oh Jesus, and we got drunk.
Speaker 2:Say no more.
Speaker 1:It was at a country club and it was by Modesto, so it was a real mountainy or hilly area and me and this guy, nick Baccio, were in a golf cart cruising around and there was this T looking over it was like a par 3 looking over the green and we just took that golf cart and went, let's do it. Wheels popped off, we ran Uh-oh, and I think Billy's parents had to pay for the golf cart or something. It was a good night.
Speaker 3:It was a good night, it was fun. All right, we're going to this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's soccer time. Thank you guys for coming tonight. I'm going to. That was a good conversation. It was an awesome conversation, as always, and you guys know you're always invited here no matter when, and we'll think of a conversation. But I am seriously going to work on trying to convince Tulsi Gabbard, for $1,500, to come on here and we will have some great questions for her. I think it'll be awesome. Yeah, it'll be awesome. Yeah, it'll be money In. Yes, in, let's do it. Yeah, that's a wrap. Thanks again, guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2:All righty.