Olympic Basketball Masterclass, Rodgers' Jets Impact, MLB Trade Fallout, and Yelich’s Setback – Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trag

Are you ready to uncover the strategic genius behind Team USA’s latest Olympic basketball triumph? This episode of "Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage" kicks off with a sizzling discussion about Wisconsin's hot and stormy summer. Then we shift gears to dissect Team USA's 103-86 win over South Sudan, highlighting Steve Kerr's tactical choices and impactful bench performances from Kevin Durant, Bam Adebayo, Anthony Edwards, and Derek White. We also celebrate South Sudan's incredible progress in their Olympic debut, providing you with a fresh perspective on the global sports stage.

Can Aaron Rodgers elevate the New York Jets to new heights, or will their offensive line woes hold them back? We tackle this burning question by evaluating Rodgers' impact on the Jets’ recent season and comparing quarterback salaries and performances across the NFL. In a spirited debate, we scrutinize Dak Prescott's earnings and playoff struggles next to the likes of Jordan Love, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, and Tua Tagovailoa. Whether you're a Jets fanatic or a Prescott skeptic, this segment promises heated analysis and thought-provoking insights.

In our final segment, we celebrate the latest Olympic milestones, from Katie Ledecky's record-breaking swim to the U.S. men's tennis team’s stunning win over Spain. We also delve into MLB trade repercussions, focusing on how recent moves impact the Milwaukee Brewers, especially after Christian Yelich's injury. As we wrap up, don't miss our fan feedback section where your questions and comments take center stage. Tune in for an episode packed with expert analysis, lively debates, and the sports stories that matter most to you.

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:09

Thank you how we doing everybody, and welcome in to Wisconsin Sports. I'm your host. Trage. It is Thursday, august 1st. I can't believe it. It's already August. That's wild. That is just crazy to think it's already August. But I can tell you what this heat that's going on, I can tell it's August. I can tell it's the dog days of summer right now. Because, holy mackerel, I could do without it. I could do without the heat, I could do without the humidity. That'd be fine. Talking storms moving across the area today. So, hopefully, wherever you are, you're staying dry out there and checking out a pretty good show, right, checking out a pretty good show, right, checking out a pretty good show. That's all you can ask for. So great day today. Oh, I got autumn with me here autumn.

Speaker 3: 1:13

How are we doing thursday getting closer to the weekend, I'm doing pretty good. I I will be honest, I wasn't impressed with all the brewers that against the brave series, but um other than that I'm doing good we're gonna get into that.

Speaker 2: 1:24

We're gonna get into that today. Lots to get into today here on the show. So right away I want to start with team usa and they, I mean they're on their olympic run right now taking on south sudan, who gave them quite the scare, quite the scare there in the trial runs there. And well, I mean this time around it seemed like the? U Quite the scare there in the trial runs there and well, I mean, this time around it seemed like the US was ready, it seemed like they were ready for South Sudan. 103-86 was the final in that one there. Everybody I mean we saw Jason Tatum play in this one. So everybody who was upset Jason Tatum didn't see action in the last one, got to see him in this game here. So I guess that's good news in that aspect. Outside of that, I mean, the only guy we didn't see was Joel Embiid. He was usually in the starting lineup, didn't see him in the starting lineup in that game. You know, kind of in the same scenario as we saw Jason Tatum from the game before Now they asked Steve Kerr once again and Steve Kerr kind of had the same answers as he did about Jason Tatum.

Speaker 2: 2:29

It was the matchups, the matchups. He wanted more speed going up against South Sudan, just like in that last game. He wanted more size against Serbia, right, he wanted the size taken on Serbia. So he went against playing. Jason Tatum went with some of the bigger guys this one, you wanted more speed, you wanted, you know it didn't need as much for size. I guess you could get away with guys like Anthony Davis and Bam Adebayo. So you ended up Joel Embiid was the odd man out in that one.

Speaker 2: 2:55

So nothing really. I mean against Joel Embiid, right, he's been playing okay, everything's been good in that aspect. Nobody's you know it's not like this is a forever bench, right, it's the same as Jason Tatum as we saw with him there. I mean, steve Kerr is just working his guys. It's impossible to play all 12 guys. I mean it's extremely difficult to get 12 guys into the rotation. Now, maybe in a 103 to 86 game, maybe you could find a way to get a guy in there, get all 12 guys. But I to get a guy in there, get all 12 guys. But I mean it's hard. You got 12 guys, that's. I mean somebody's not going to play, somebody's not going to play a lot of minutes. Somebody's not going to play, and that's what we've seen so far with Steve Kerr coaching this team is that there's going to be nights, days, whatever it is that some of the guys who you would expect to see out there, like Jason Tatum, aren't going to see minutes, and that is what we saw in this one with Joel Embiid.

Speaker 2: 3:46

So, Embiid does not play there. Tyrese Halliburton, he ends up. Tyrese Halliburton ends up with eight minutes in this one. So again, kind of in that same scenario, there not a lot of minutes for Tyrese Tatum ended up with 17 minutes in this one. Four points. I was, you know, for all the people out there hating on Jason Tatum for not getting into the game against Serbia. Getting me four points ain't going to give me much of a vouch for playing time there. But a lot of the scoring actually came off of the bench for Team USA in this game. We saw Kevin Durant with 14 off the bench, bam Adebayo with 18, 13 from Anthony Edwards and Derek White with 10. Starters I mean LeBron at 12, 10 for Devin Booker, 3 for Curry, 8 for Anthony Davis and 4 for Tatum. I mean not a lot happening in that starting rotation there, but on the flip side of it, the bench does step up. I mean when you've got a bench like that, you can find scores anyways. I mean you can find your score anywhere. You got to find them there. So great stuff coming out of that one there.

Speaker 2: 4:46

You know, south Sudan, that's an impressive team for basically, you know they've only been a country for how long right you know, they went to war barely been a country. Now they end up in the Olympics and well, they're putting together a pretty solid team there for their first run. So that's been impressive. Kevin Durant had to say was last game we had a champion and an all NBA guy not play any minutes, and tonight we had an MVP not play any minutes. They didn't complain. We had guys who stepped up and filled those roles perfectly. I mean, that's, that's basically what Steve Kerr told us. That's what Kevin Durant's telling us is that night is that night. There's going to be nights. There's going to be days where you're going to see and when you have a team filled with stars, like we see with this team, you're going to have that and it's just how it is. So I mean that's about that. That's about that on that game there.

Speaker 2: 5:37

Looking at their next matchup, that will be on Saturday. They will be taking on Puerto Rico. So US moves to 2-0. South Sudan sitting at 1-1. And the US will be taking on Puerto Rico. Come on Saturday there at 11.15 am. So a great, great start to an Olympic run for the team USA there. I mean, did the women's team play too? I'm not sure. I'm not sure on that one. Did the women's team have a game?

Speaker 3: 6:09

I didn't see anything. I'd have to look.

Speaker 2: 6:11

We're going to go with no, we're going to go with no and just let it ride with that. I mean, if they did, I didn't hear anything about it either. Nothing, nothing on that end. So the men's were the only team in action well, not the only team, but the basketball in action as of yesterday. So with that getting out of the olympics, getting out of basketball there, I want to look over at the nfl right now.

Speaker 2: 6:38

A lot of storylines, I guess you could say rogers, aaron rogers, he's got to be in the news, right. We saw him kind of going at it with Garrett Wilson on the sideline there, ended up joking it off afterwards. But a little bit of heated controversy maybe there between Rodgers and Wilson. But Rodgers says he believes the Jets are among 8-12 teams with a realistic shot at the Super Bowl. Of course he said the same thing last year and everything unraveled when he ruptured his left Achilles on the fourth snap of the season. And we all know the result of that there 7-10 record and I mean not a great season for Rodgers and the Jets there. I mean, if you look, you know, if you look at the Jets offensive line's bad, it has been bad. Maybe they figure they've. They've added pieces in there. Now, right, they've added pieces in that offensive line room. Maybe that benefits them, maybe that helps them out and protect Rogers, right? I mean, that is, if you're the New York Jets, that's number one priority, especially because this is your guy. You gave up for this guy and you brought the headache in. You brought the contract in. Now you're kind of eating it. So you got to do everything you can to put this guy up at the top and see if he can lead you to a playoff run, slash Super Bowl, and I mean honestly if Rodgers does somehow end up playing at an MVP level.

Speaker 2: 8:06

Yeah, the Jets are a Super Bowl team, like no ifs, ands or buts. They're a Super Bowl team. The defense is good, they have weapons. It's just a matter of what does Rodgers give you? That is going to be the biggest question for New York Jet fans all season. What can Rodgers give us? Because we have the weapons, we have the defense. What about the rest of it there? So, autumn, we've been talking a lot about Dak Prescott there. You have some numbers there of other NFL quarterbacks, what they're making now and kind of where we think Dak should be sitting. So what do you got for the list?

Speaker 3: 8:43

So right now we have Jordan Love at the top at $55 million a year. Following it with $55 million a year, you have Joe Burrow, trevor Lawrence and then you have Tua. Can you say that last name for me?

Speaker 2: 8:56

Tug of Oloa.

Speaker 3: 8:57

Thank you At $53.1 million. Jared Goff from the Lions at $53 million. Kyle Varee $46.1 million. Deshaun Watson $46 million. And then there's Dak Prescott, where there's the question mark. So my opinion on Dak Prescott is he should not be getting paid any more than Mahomes. To be honest, I'm surprised Mahomes isn't even on that. He's got back-to-back Super Bowl champions, but I guess what are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2: 9:22

Well, he spreads out the contract a little bit more, make it a little bit more team-friendly in that aspect, so the Chiefs can somewhat afford to go out and spend money left and right. But okay, if I look at the list, is Dak Prescott better than Jordan Love? Okay, that's tough. That's tough. If you were to say, right now is Dak Prescott better than Jordan Love, and you looked at stats, you looked at everything else, you would have to say yes.

Speaker 2: 9:58

You would have to say Now if I was going to say, is Dak Prescott better than Jordan Love? And you took into account what a guy can still develop into right. Because I believe Jordan Love he's got a high ceiling and I don't think he's even three quarters of the way there. I think he's got a long ways yet that he can reach yet to reach his ceiling, his peak of being, how good he really can be. So if you ask me right now, dak Prescott's a pretty good regular season quarterback. I mean, if you look at the stats and everything, he's not a bad regular season quarterback. It's just when they get to the playoffs. And that's not just Dak Prescott, that's the entire Cowboys organization, jerry Jones and down, that sucks when it comes to the playoffs. So it's hard just to rip on Dak Prescott for a lot of the dumb decisions that the Cowboys have made. So I guess you know in hindsight it depends on the question that you're asking development wise, who has the higher ceiling? I believe Jordan Love's got a higher ceiling than what Dak Prescott does. But if you were to ask me right now, who's the more established? Like if you the more established, if you were going to. Let's just say, try to put on a Super Bowl run right now. Right now, who would you feel more comfortable with? There are people that would say Jordan Love. Honestly, if I had to pick, I would say Jordan Love, just because I'm not a huge Dak Prescott guy. But if you look at the stats and a guy that can get you to the playoffs Dak Prescott, he can get you there. We know that Jordan Love is just a little unproven yet right. But you know, honestly, if I had to say who I think is going to be better of the two Jordan Love, right, joe Burrow to Dak Prescott who's the better of the two? Joe Burrow, I believe Joe Burrow is better than what Dak Prescott is Now. That's coming off an injury too with Joe Burrow and a little bit of a lackluster year last year. So we'll see what it looks like this season. But if I was putting talent to talent, I got Joe Burrow above Dak Prescott. Trevor Lawrence no, trevor Lawrence is not better than Dak Prescott. I, I don't think so. I'll be honest with you. Dak prescott is and this is what I wish. More people, I guess, would see. Dak prescott plays for the cowboys and the cowboys do suck right, they find ways to lose games. That is not all. Dak prescott yes, he does have a turnover problem when it comes to the playoffs. Yes, but I'm not gonna take you know and blame it all on dak. Blame it all on Dak he has. I mean, look at his regular season stats. He's not a bad quarterback. I believe he is better than Trevor Lawrence, tua I got Dak. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know how high the ceiling is for Tua. You know he could be very good. He could be average. He could be just mediocre, right, could be very good, he could be average. He could be just mediocre, right. And I think it can go both ways yet. So for me, dak Prescott's better than Tua.

Speaker 2: 12:51

Jared Goff is like your journeyman. I don't know you. You almost want to say like he's like a Kirk Cousins. You know he's not Jared Goff's good quarterback, like he is a good quarterback. I'm not gonna say heff's a good quarterback, he is a good quarterback. I'm not going to say he's not a good quarterback, but I don't think Jared Goff is like you could throw him into a random room and make it work.

Speaker 2: 13:15

Goff, yeah, he went to a Super Bowl. Everybody loves to bring that up. Lions fans love to bring that up. He scored three points in that Super Bowl. He didn't even score. Fans love to bring that up. He scored three points in that Super Bowl. He didn't even score. They had three points in that entire Super Bowl and the defense carried them there. So I mean, great, he made it to the Super Bowl, scored three points. Like nice job. I don't know what they want out of that a pat on the back or what.

Speaker 2: 13:39

But Jared Goff to Dak, I think that's an even toss. I really do. I think that's an even toss, I really do. I think that's an even toss. Kyler Murray Kyler Murray can barely see over his offensive line. I mean, I don't know, maybe he can use his $46 million a year and try to buy stilts or something. I don't know. This guy there is. Maybe there's some talent there. Not going to say there's no talent, but I just don't see it progressing.

Speaker 2: 14:05

So is Dak Prescott better than Kyler Murray? Yes, deshaun Watson, that's the dumbest contract that the Browns have ever like ever signed that they've allowed happen. That is the dumbest contract. I've ever seen. This guy I mean he had like what 20-some cases against him. They ended up throwing him out. You had that headache. You signed him with that headache still going and then he gets hurt on top of that. He has not been the same since he left Houston.

Speaker 2: 14:35

This guy is, I truthfully believe, done. I don't think he's still got more left to show us. He had his best years. They were in Houston. He wanted out. He wanted to get out of Houston. I think it's done. I think the Sean Watson thing's done.

Speaker 2: 14:51

So I mean honestly, I look at this list if you're paying Trevor Lawrence 55, dak gets 55. Like, from Trevor Lawrence down on this list, maybe excluding Jared Goff just because Jared Goff is like he's solid. He's not over the top but he's solid. He's a solid quarterback. He's like your Kirk Cousins. That's the only thing I can think about when I think of Jared Goff. But you know, you look at that Trevor Lawrence down. You can sit there and make the argument that Dak Prescott is better. I mean honestly, you could probably sit there and attempt to make the argument that he's better than Joe Burrow and you can make the argument that he is better than Jordan Love. You can make that argument if you want.

Speaker 2: 15:34

So you can't not pay Dak Prescott around that 55 range. That's just where I'm at. I mean, there's a lot of good quarterbacks in the league. There's a lot of average quarterbacks. There's a lot of bad quarterbacks making good money. Trevor Lawrence, I mean I don't know If the Jaguars ever figure something out, maybe Trevor Lawrence shows us something, but as of right now, if he's making 55, dak's making 55. That's just what I think. That is what I think with that one there. So with that, I mean that was a great one. That was a great question of the day right there for the NFL. What would we pay Dak Prescott? I mean, if the Cowboys don't want to pay him?

Speaker 2: 16:19

somebody else will scoop in, somebody else will scoot their way in and they will pay for Dak Prescott to come and give them their services Because, I mean, if he hits the free agent market he will be a hot commodity. I guarantee it. I guarantee it on that one. So with that, before we move on here, we got a lot to get into today. Before we move on, I want to get to our great sponsors of our show here.

Speaker 2: 16:43

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Speaker 3: 18:49

What do we got? Autumn olympics. Katie ledecky now owns the or I guess it arms now or has owns the top 20 fastest times in the history of women's 1500 meter freestyle. Today she won the gold and set a new olympic record in the women's 1500 meter. She was the only one in camera frame when she finished Winning that gold medal. She is tied for the most medals by an American woman in Olympic history in earning her 12th gold medal today. The only American with more is Michael Phelps with 23.

Speaker 3: 19:17

The men's Olympic tennis team beat the Spanish duo in straight sets to advance to the Olympic men's doubleslympic tennis team beat the spanish duo in straight sets to advance to the olympic men's doubles semi-final. Apparently I don't know much about men's tennis I don't know if you do, but apparently that's a huge upset. Um, so so we'll go with it. Um. The us olympic women's soccer team secured a first place finish in group b with a two to one win against australia. The americans, who were already in the quarterfiles after a four-1 win against Germany on Sunday, will face Japan on Saturday. These are just a couple of random facts that when I was looking at some stuff that just kind of baffled me. Paris spent around $1.5 billion to clean the river Seine I'm assuming that's a French term term. I don't know if that's right for the olympics, after being postponed twice this week due to poor water quality levels for the triathlon, which did take place yesterday morning. And then I thought this was really interesting.

Speaker 2: 20:12

They showed all of them, but the united states gives their athletes 37 500 for taking home a gold medal, while in the Paris Olympics I've heard the span, the Spain is good at, uh, at tennis, so I could see that being a pretty good, a pretty big upset there. Katie Ledecky seems to just I mean, impress every time she's at the Olympics. They're great stuff, great stuff, they're all the way around. Yeah, the river over there is pretty nasty. From what I'm hearing, the river over there is pretty nasty. If it's taken this long and it takes 1.5 bill to clean that baby, I think we should have, I don't know, planned ahead a little bit more. I don't know, you know, we know the Olympics coming, maybe we clean it a couple weeks early, I heard you know. Kind of a waste of time if you ask me, but you know whatever, whatever, what do I know?

Speaker 2: 21:06

Maybe it's just that. I mean, how can it be that nasty? That's baffling. I guess I'd have to look up pictures of this thing. I mean, is it like?

Speaker 3: 21:17

I guess my question is do they not have a different river that they could use, or somewhere else that wouldn't?

Speaker 2: 21:23

come. This one is too pretty. Well, apparently not too pretty, I don't know. Maybe it's closer to the locations, maybe they're trying to keep it, you know, keep it all next to each other, but man, oh man, I mean it's got to be. I mean there's some rivers around me that are right by the Black River. I mean that thing's dirty and all you know, but I'll still take a swim in it. Like, come on, toughen up a little bit. There better be some like skin eating microorganisms in this thing that nobody is going to do a triathlon in there. Like, come on. But you know that's interesting, the $37,500 there for taking on the gold. Did you have the other numbers of some of those?

Speaker 3: 21:59

of other teams on there I might give me, give me a second 37 000, I mean.

Speaker 2: 22:05

But if you think about it, you wonder how much an athlete like that spends in a four-year span to prepare themselves for said olympics. Right, because I mean you're not talking maybe a new running pair, a pair of running shoes or this and that, but you know, maybe it's new equipment, right? If you're not going to a gym, you don't have to, you have to pay a membership. You go to the gym. If you don't go to the gym, you're buying equipment for your house. You got to spend money on that. If you have track, if you're traveling to these different places to train for the olympics, then're spending money there. You're spending money for overnight, you know just all those little things that might add up. I wonder if 30, I mean whenever you got the list there Autumn but I wonder if 37,000, how that stacks up to the rest of the world there in amounts that they make. Like that is an interesting number right there. Are you finding anything out there?

Speaker 3: 22:59

Yes, I don't remember where I found it, which one so I. It might take me a little bit to figure it out, but we'll come back to it tomorrow we'll come back to it tomorrow.

Speaker 2: 23:08

That's what she tells me. We'll come back to it tomorrow, no worries on that one. So let's get into the mlb a little bit, because I mean we saw it like we talked about yesterday. Trade deadline was here, it's gone. Now we're starting to see some of these teams after the fact we did see.

Speaker 2: 23:24

I just watched on the. I was watching the Cubs in the Reds and I saw Jacob Junis make his debut for the Reds there. So you know, hopefully Junis finds good promising green pastures on the other side there with the Reds. Outside of that, we did see Jackson Holiday hit his first big league home run yesterday there. It was a grand slam. Good to see, I mean for Oriole fans, for baseball fans who are super excited to see Jackson Holiday make his debut. Kind of struggled when he was first up, but now, coming back up, hits this grand slam. Maybe that gets him going there.

Speaker 2: 24:02

Bobby Witt has been on a stinking tear. He has been on a tear, I believe he's batting above 400 in the month of July. 44 hits in 23 games. Royals have won 12 of their last 18 games. Bobby Witt has been a main cog in that offense and is love him, hate him. Bobby Witt is on a roll right now.

Speaker 2: 24:23

Dylan Cease makes his first start since his no hitter last Thursday, facing off against Clayton Kershaw in his second start of the season. That's, you know, interesting to see Clayton Kershaw coming back off injury, slowly working his way back into things. That curveball is still nasty for Clayton Kershaw, but gonna square off with Dylan Cease there, that should be a good matchup. That is gonna be a great matchup there between them two. I mean you got Kersh with the Dodgers there. You know, if I was gonna pick a betting man, I'd take the Dodgers on that one. I would have to take the Dodgers on that one there.

Speaker 2: 25:01

The boss back there tells me it wasn't that important that I talked about that. But I mean, she just tells me things, she just produces the show. I just talk, I just talk. So, autumn, we have a list. Mlb came out with a list. You showed it to me, but you'll read it off for me and we'll see if we agree the most impactful trades of the trade deadline there. So I mean, I guess just go through them what did they think was the most impactful trades that were made and see if we think they're actually true.

Speaker 3: 25:34

So for the starting lineup, the most impactful trade was starting at catcher Danny Jansen, who went from the Blue Jays to Boston. Then we got Justin Turner, first base, who went from the Blue Jays to Seattle, and then Jez Chisholm Jr. Second base went from the Mariners Marlins excuse me, it's very small To the Yankees. Then we have Isaac Help me out, trajan.

Speaker 2: 26:05

For righties.

Speaker 3: 26:06

Thank you Third base, from Tampa Bay to the Cubs, then with Tommy Edmond at Shoreside from St Louis to the Dodgers, jesse Winker in that left field, from the Nationals to the Mets, then you have Lane Thomas in center field going from the Nationals to Cincinnati no Guardians, cleveland Guardians. Then you have Randy Rosarena who went in right field for Tampa Bay to Seattle, and then you have Jorge Soler for DH who went from San Francisco to the Braves. So just starting lineup. We're not going to get the pitchers yet, but looking at that, what are your thoughts, trajan?

Speaker 2: 26:43

Well, red Sox needed a catcher. Danny Jansen was definitely an upgrade there. Justin Turner, I don't know about that one. I saw a stat that at one point he had 49 dead red fastballs and he hadn't hit a single one of them. That's baffling 49 dead red fastballs and he didn't get a hit out of a single one of them. That's baffling 49 dead red fastballs and he didn't get a hit out of a single one of them. He was like 0 for 49 on dead red fastballs. That's crazy. That's a crazy stat.

Speaker 2: 27:06

Justin Turner's on the tail end of his career. Let me say Jazz Chisholm, I believe he's hit four home runs since going to the Yankees, so I can't really deny that one as being a good deal for the Yankees. Somehow he's found his power stroke there. He must be using Aaron Judge's corked bat too much out there. I don't know. I don't know. You tell me, I don't know. I don't like the Yankees. So Isaac Paredes to the Cubs. They definitely upgraded Christopher Murrell for Isaac Paredes. Definitely an upgrade there. Tommy Edmond going to the Dodgers Though he has been injured, he he's a solid clubhouse guy. He's a above average hitter and good defensive guy. So definitely a good ad by the Dodgers Jesse Winker. You never know. I mean, ask Brewer fans what they think of Jesse Winker.

Speaker 2: 27:48

Probably not great so, but he has been performing well for the Washington Nationals this year. The Mets needed help in the outfield. They got their bat Lane Thomas. I did not see Lane Thomas being traded from the Nationals. I really said I was on the baseball show there on Integrity Sports Network we were talking about the trade deadline coming up and I said Lane Thomas is not going to get traded from the Nationals because I believe the Nationals are getting closer and closer to actually putting a good team together. They, I mean they have a solid team this year and I thought, you know honestly, to me Lane Thomas was the centerpiece in that. So I was seriously not expecting a Lane Thomas deal. Lane Thomas goes to the Guardians, a team that has been rolling this year, one of the best teams in the American League. Now they have Lane Thomas, definitely a fantastic add.

Speaker 2: 28:38

Randy Rosarena has been stinking it up this year, but maybe he finds his. You know the Mariners have been stinking. They are absolutely atrocious on the offensive side. I mean they're dead last in most categories. Pitching. They're up near the top in every category Offense terrible. So maybe Randy Rosarena finds it with Seattle and gives them a little bit of a boost. They need a boost out there. Jorge Soler to the Braves as a Brewer fan, we just saw Jorge and they're just getting the band back together. That's what the Braves are doing from that World Series run. He's your pop, that's what you want Jorge Soler for. He's not there to be the high average guy, he's there for the pop and that's what they got him there for. So I mean, looking at this lineup here, that they had there their all-trade deadline team, that would be about where I'd have everybody sitting. I'm not going to lie, that's about where I would have everybody sitting there.

Speaker 3: 29:31

I just have to say something. I was pretty shocked to see Jesse Blinker just with his performance for the Brewers. I'm glad that he's doing well. I wanted the best for him, but when I saw his name I was like wow.

Speaker 2: 29:44

It irritated me. It irritated me because once he got to the nationals and you know that's that is your telltale thing, that sometimes it's a situation that actually helps guys. You know you look at jesse winker maybe it was playing with a, the brewers were in a playoff hunt, the nationals weren't even close. A lot less pressure. You don't have to put as much pressure on yourself. That can always be something that you know hurts guys, benefits guys, everything in between. They need the pressure. They can do without the pressure. That could have been a Jesse Winker thing. The change of scenery right, we know it with Christian Yelich. He came to Milwaukee, won an MVP. He was I mean, I was going to say honestly in the running for another MVP in 2019 before he broke his kneecap. In the running for another MVP in 2019 before he broke his kneecap, and then this season, I mean he was on a tear before he got hurt again. So a change of scenery can definitely be a good thing for guys.

Speaker 3: 30:31

Jesse Winker might have been a prime example of that. Yeah, yeah, all right. So in the starting rotation for pitching we have Jack Flaherty, who went to the Dodgers, eric Fetty, who went to St Louis, zach Eflinty, who went to the Dodgers, eric Fetty, who went to St Louis, zach Eflin, who went to Baltimore, yusei Kikuchi, who went to the Astros, and then you have Alex Cobb, who also went to the Guardians.

Speaker 2: 30:54

Well, alex Cobb hasn't pitched yet this year, hasn't pitched yet this year. So but from what I've heard, from his bullpen sessions and everything like that, the velocity's there, everything's there. I think you know the guardians definitely went and they watched and they got news on alex scott before making that deal. You know you don't make that deal otherwise. So this is a an unproven guy, but not unproven. We've seen what he's been able to do in the past. You know it's an experienced pitcher, which is, I believe, what the Guardians were going for there. And he's a solid arm. If he's healthy and he's getting healthy, he's coming out. He's on the comeback trail, so that could be a good thing there.

Speaker 2: 31:43

Zach Eflin going from the Rays to the Orioles I was baffled by the amount of inter-division trading that was happening. I mean, look at the Brewers and the Reds, right, frankie Montes going to the Brewers and then sending Jacob Junis. That way I thought that was interesting. And then you look at this one here with the Rays and the Orioles sending a guy. I mean, in your division you're giving Zach Ethlin to the Orioles. So I thought that was quite interesting to see some of that. Even like the Nationals trading with the Mets. It's not something that you see all the time. You know these interdivision trades, the Danny Jansen deal I mean the Blue Jays to the Red Sox, I mean you don't see stuff like that every day. So definitely some interesting stuff.

Speaker 2: 32:19

Jack Flaherty there's a lot of people that you know when, if you bring it up to Brewer fans, they didn't really want Jack Flaherty. He's been injury prone. He's not as good as he once was. I believe Dodgers got better. Fetty I talked about him yesterday. He's a journeyman. You never know what you're going to get out of Fetty. He's a journeyman. You never know what you're going to get out of Fedde. He's been solid, above average this year. So definitely a solid move by the Cardinals bolstering up that rotation even more than what they already had. And then Kikuchi I mean eh, I mean he's good, but he's had a really good year this season.

Speaker 2: 33:02

Astros needed help in that pitching room. Getting him is definitely going to bolster that there. So some solid guys in that starting rotation that were moved around there. I would say out of all of them, the guy that I would be looking at most would probably be the Jack Flaherty deal to the Dodgers. I believe that's going to be a big one. I believe that will be a big one at the end of the day there. So with that Autumn we got to get to the fact of the day before we get to the Brewers that one's labeled fact of the day. All right, give it to us.

Speaker 3: 33:42

Fact of the day here the spangler candy company chose to name their famous lollipops dum-dums because it was a word that was easy for any kid to say and remember, so the kids could remember the names and ask their parents to buy them some. Dumb Dumb.

Speaker 2: 34:12

Like now we're calling people dumb dumbsdums, right, I mean, it's a dangerous game that this candy company's playing there. It's like the candy bar, whatchamacallit, right, because I swear to you, I once my my uncle, once he came in, he came into the house and I was sitting there and he goes you do you want to go get a whatchamacallit? And I'm sitting there like what, what do you want to go? He's like a whatchamacallit. I'm like what are you talking about? Like this is what do you mean? A whatchamacallit? Like what are you talking about? I need to know more information. And he's like, oh, this candy bar. And I'm like what candy bar? Like is it just chocolate? What is it? And he's like you got to see it. So you know we go and he's got a whatchamacallit bar. It's dangerous games that they play with candy. Right, it's dangerous games.

Speaker 2: 35:03

Dum Dums. I did not know that they wanted to basically make it so kids would remember it. I can see that. I can see that you know dum-dum. Interesting fact of the day, right there. Interesting fact of the day Now we know. Now we know where the word dum-dum comes from and why we called it that Because we wanted kids to remember call the candy dum-dums call each other dum-dums.

Speaker 2: 35:29

Whatever you got to do, whatever you got to do, so with that, we got to get some brew crew talk. We got you got to do whatever you got to do, so with that, we got to get some brew crew talk. We got to get into the brewers here. Talk about this, some of the injuries there. Talk about this last series against the Braves there. So Frankie Montes was added to the active roster. Tyler Jay sad to see bad day oh, poor guy was optioned to AAA Nashville. Not a good night. Tyler Jay is Tyler Jay. Right, he wasn't like that was that big of a deal, but Frankie Montes will start against the Nationals coming up this weekend there. So that's a good story. That's good. I mean I'm just hoping that's all I guess we can do. We can just hope it's good. We can hope it's good because otherwise, when we come back on Monday, I'm going to blow a gasket. I'm going to blow a gasket about the Brewers organization and ownership and everything in between. We don't want that. We don't want that. We want to just stick with being good here. So that I mean that's going to be something to watch there over the weekend there. We'll get into that tomorrow. On the weekend preview.

Speaker 2: 36:26

Other injury news Yellich said Wednesday that it's not 100% decided that he will undergo offseason back surgery. And 100% decided that he will undergo off-season back surgery and if he does, he doesn't believe his availability for the start of the 2025 season would be in jeopardy. I'll be honest with you when I heard back surgery, I almost got to the point where I was like this guy's career might be done, like we're reconstructing a spine. That's not, and I get, you know, the off seasons. You got some time. You got some time. This is a back. This is your spine. This is surgery on your spine. Yeah, maybe miraculously, it's not as bad as what we think and maybe he's ready to go by the start of 2025. Maybe, but I'm going to be the bearer of bad news on my belief end, and that is if it comes down to back surgery. I don't believe he'll be ready for 2025, the start of it, and it makes me nervous moving forward. And if he comes back, that's going to be a wait and see. Back surgery. It's a dangerous one. It's a different kind of surgery. Right, when you start messing with that kind of stuff? Right, your spinal cord, the thing that makes everything else go. That's a dangerous game. So, though I am hoping for the best, I'm glad we didn't trade away Garrett Mitchell or Sal Frelick or blake perkins because we might need them. We might need to sit hold with them guys there. Jackson churrio too. Can't forget about him, because the dude is literally carrying the offense. So can't forget about jackson churrio there.

Speaker 2: 38:08

I mean, some of the things I saw, some of the fan reactions to some of what's been going on in Milwaukee, was after this Brave series. I did see a post where a guy said we're not a playoff team. You know, I think the Brewers are a playoff team. Are they a good playoff team? I don't know. I mean, ask Fox Sports. They came out with their list of World Series odds after the trade deadline. They gave the Brewers a loser. They basically called them a loser after the trade deadline and their odds to win the World Series were at plus 2,000. Autumn, could you get the World Series odds pulled up? Could you get the updated World Series odds? They had to have released them not too long ago. That has to be one from the last couple days there. But I mean the Brewers. According to Fox Sports they had them, plus 2,000 right now, simply because Colin Ray, tobias Myers, they're good. They're good as they've been.

Speaker 2: 39:06

The Brewers needed another arm. They needed another arm with Freddy Peralta. Now is Frankie Montes going to be that guy? Maybe, but an impact arm right off the bat, like a Jack Flaherty was an option. Brewers didn't get him. They said they had a package for Fetty. They didn't get Fetty.

Speaker 2: 39:23

Now you're sticking with, you're sticking to your guns, you're sticking with these guys. Does that make them a World Series team? The book is unwritten, right? You just got to get into the playoffs, then things happen. Right, you just got to get into the playoffs, then things happen. Right. Colin Ray has been solid. Tobias Meyer has been solid. Freddie Peralta has been solid. He's had some solid starts here coming to the All-Star break. So I'm not going to completely shoot him down, but it gets tough. It gets tough there. Autumn. We got a list of the World Series odds. What do we got? Who is leading it? Who's got the best odds? Who's got? I mean, we don't need to know the worst odds, just get me up until we see the Brewers. So she's on. You got it on ESPN. Just read top to bottom there, the odd numbers.

Speaker 3: 40:14

So, top to bottom, you have the Los Angeles Dodgers at plus 300. And you have Philadelphia Phillies at plus 425. New York Yankees at plus 600. Baltimore Orioles at plus 650. Then you have the Atlanta Braves, who have odds 12-1. Houston Astros 12-1 odds. Twins 16-1 odds. Clevelandros 12-1 odds. Twins 16-1 odds. Cleveland Guardians 18-1 odds. Brewers 20-1 odds and, continuing the odds, the Seattle Mariners 30-1. Padres 30-1. I'm not going to lie, trajan, as I keep looking. At least we're not as far down as the White Sox, who are 501.

Speaker 2: 40:57

Well, the White Sox might be mathematically already eliminated from the playoffs. They were mathematically eliminated week one of the season. So I mean the Brewers are sitting near, you know, in that top range. But you got the Phillies, the Braves, the Dodgers to deal with, right? You needed to bolster up this team to be able to square off with a team like that, Honest, okay, I'm going to ask you this question, Autumn, you can give yes or no. You can elaborate a little bit if you want to. Before the Christian Yelich injury, were you higher on this Brewers team than you are now? Before the injury, before losing a big bat like that? Because a bat like that against a team like the Dodgers or the Phillies or the Braves is a huge bat. Losing a guy like Christian Yelich, does that change your perspective on this Brewers team, playoff-wise, thinking about that kind of scenario?

Speaker 3: 41:57

Well, when you asked me that question, the first thing that came to my head was no, I think we have some good talent. However, now that I, of course, think about it a little bit more, I don't know. I think there's a solid. I think the Brewers have a team. Do I think they'll make it far in the playoffs? Not really, unfortunately, I don't think they will. Um, they have some good talent, but they have a lot of young talent and I think that if the brewers are gonna go farther in the playoffs, it's gonna take a little bit of time. So, with, with the yellage thing, I I think it depends. I think he's a good bat, but I also don't. He's not always a consistent bat. Um, so thing, I think it depends. I think he's a good bat, but I also don't. He's not always a consistent bat. So I think I think it depends.

Speaker 2: 42:42

I would say it changed my perspective. It did I. I thought the lineup was, you know, really good. Heading into the all-star, breakelich was in that 300 range. He seemed like he was hitting back to where he was, though, yes, his bat was inconsistent, just like everybody else on this roster. I mean, hitting with runners in scoring position is still a problem. We saw it against the Braves their bases loaded, don't score runs. Braves, load the bases, they score two runs. There's your difference between those two teams.

Speaker 2: 43:14

But losing that kind of bat, you know, it's more of the presence thing for me. When Christian Yelich is in the lineup, it makes you feel better. It's like a safety blanket, right, it was always that way with Ryan Braun. For me, when Braun was in the lineup, even when Yelich was hitting right, braun was like that safety. He was that blanket around him where they gave more pitches to yellich because they didn't want to face braun. Now, did that maybe change? Throughout the season, probably, the dude was hitting above 300. He was on pace for what? 30, some home runs. I mean, he was hitting ridiculous. So maybe that changed. But having that safety blanket of braun definitely made you feel better. Now, same boat, no yellich. Yeah, we still have contraris is still there and you still have hoskins. I mean hoskins is slowly starting to turn around. Hopefully this is good signs. I mean he's got seven home runs in the month of july, right. I mean that's good, it's getting there right. What we want to see um adamas is he's about as inconsistent as it gets but it leads the team in RBIs. So you have Adamas is bad.

Speaker 2: 44:17

The things that always get me are you look at the rest of them. Terang has been kind of on a downhill slope. Now Churrio has been hitting the cover off the ball. You know he's been hitting above 300 in the month of July. The guy's been ridiculous not Bobby Wood Jr ridiculous, but still ridiculous. So that makes me feel better. But Mitchell, frelick, perkins, they all ride their little streaks. I mean Frelick's a good contact hitter but that's it. He's not an extra basic kind of guy. And Terang, like I said, downhill slope right now it's kind of plateauing. It's kind of plateauing with Terang. He's not on that upward trend like he was earlier on. And Perk Mitchell, mitchell's slowly figuring it out right. Perkins he's always been up or down. It seems like he has a two-week stretch where he's hitting the cover of the ball and then he'll go on a three-week stretch where he's stinking.

Speaker 2: 45:07

So I would say just losing the presence of Yellich in that lineup does affect the Brewers negatively. Moving forward here until possibly he comes back, that'd be. My only thing is his presence is a big thing, I think. You know it's hard to make up for that production, but if Mitchell starts to figure it out, I think they can figure it out. It's just going to be that presence that I think they're going to miss there with the LH. Yeah, he's still in the clubhouse, but the presence in the lineup I think is a huge thing when it comes to baseball and that could affect the Brewers.

Speaker 2: 45:42

You know, the biggest thing I thought heading into the deadline was the starting pitching staff getting better and I don't know if they truthfully did. Well, it's wait and see with Frankie Montes, right, wait and see with him. Chris Hook tells us that Chris Hook worked with him back in the day so he knows that this guy's good. So we'll see. We'll see, right, if it all works out in that aspect. So with that other news there, jacob Mizorowski, as of a couple days ago he was moved up to AAA. That is huge. That is huge news to see Jacob Mizorowski getting moved up like that, because potentially we might see a guy like Jacob Mizorowski come to the Brewers here late in the season for a little bit of bullpen, maybe in a starting role. I don't know, we'll wait and see with that one. But the flamethrower is slowly working his way up. Right now he's actually got you look at his ground ball rate right now in 2024. It's at 45.3%. You put it in kind of a perspective there, and Paul Skeens is about a 50% ground ball rate. So 45% for Jacob Mizorowski there. We just hope that it translates up to the AAA level and we see this guy up at the big league level at some point there.

Speaker 2: 46:53

But I mean, in other Brewer news we see, did see the Brewers drop the series to the Atlanta Braves three, well, two games to one, two games to one. They lost two of three. Let's go with that. They lost two or three there. Game one eight to three, finishing that one a solid, solid game all the way around for the Brewers. Game two and three that kind of fell apart fast, right. Freddy Peralta was pitching a pretty good game for the Brewers. They're heading into the fourth inning and then back-to-back solo shots for the Braves tied it. Then we saw Canning come in give up two runs and then we saw Mears come in later on in the game there and give up two runs Also. That led to the Brewers six-2 loss in that series. Finale. Game two of that series I mean a little bit of the same Joe Ross lit up for five runs early. That's all the Braves needed in that one. That's all they needed in that one. They took that one 5-1.

Speaker 2: 47:46

So the Brewers will have an off day today and then they'll take on the Nationals over the weekend there and then they'll have another off day before they're going to be squaring off with the Atlanta Braves and then they start a little bit of a homestand there with the Reds, the Dodgers and the Guardians there coming to town. Those are going to be some pretty big matchups between. I mean, you're going to have the Reds and the Reds are a pesky team, and then you face the Dodgers and the Guardians there. The Brewers have struggled in the month of July. They've struggled mightily in the month of July. So I mean man, oh man. The Brewers really need, they really need this. They need this series. They need this series against the Nationals come up this weekend. So that's about all we got.

Speaker 2: 48:29

I mean lots to get into tomorrow here on the weekend preview, but that's about all we got for today. Like I always tell you, like, rate, review us on whatever platform you're listening to. Go in the bio there, scroll down, find, send us a text message, send us fan mail. Let us know what you think of the show on there, questions that you have that we can answer on the show, everything like that there. So with that, this has been Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage. Thank, thank you guys for listening. I hope you guys enjoy the rest of your thursday, but until we talk to you guys again tomorrow. Deuces you.

Speaker 1: 49:19

Yeah, oh, my Lord, watch me sway. Darkness falls and we all pray, hoping for the light of day. Down to the river, I have held the devil's hand, felt the weight of my own sin Buried by the heart of man. Down to the river, down to the river.