What's Next for Afghanistan: U.S. Interests or Compromise with the Taliban?

At The Boundary

At The Boundary
What's Next for Afghanistan: U.S. Interests or Compromise with the Taliban?
Jul 14, 2025 Season 3 Episode 90

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What’s the U.S. endgame in Afghanistan now—and what role does the Taliban really play?

In this episode of At the Boundary, host Jim Cardoso speaks with Dr. Jonathan Schroden, a non-resident fellow at the Global and National Security Institute (GNSI), to explore how U.S. foreign policy toward Afghanistan has evolved under the the most recent presidential administrations.

Schroden examines the administration’s transactional relationship with the Taliban, which prioritizes counterterrorism cooperation and human rights advocacy, while contrasting it with the Trump administration’s more rhetorical approach. The conversation also breaks down the threat landscape in Afghanistan, identifying ISIS-K (Islamic State Khorasan) as the primary concern, alongside Al Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban (TTP).

Key topics include:

·       U.S. policy shifts from Trump to Biden

·       The rise of ISIS-K and regional terrorism threats

·       Challenges of working with the Taliban and neighboring powers

·       The moral and strategic dilemmas of engagement

This episode offers a timely, candid look at one of America’s most complex foreign policy challenges.

Links to the Show:

2025 Notes from Cambridge Student Blog

Jonathan Schroden’s Article in the Journal of Strategic Security

“Policy Options for Securing U.S. Interests in Afghanistan” Decision Briefs

CNA Website

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