Awakened Wellness: The Price of Life

What if the way we sit today is setting us up for arthritis tomorrow? Join us on Awakened Wellness as Marie and I, Jocelyn, unpack the hidden dangers lurking in our everyday habits and how they can impact our long-term health. We start with a heartwarming story of a client with Parkinson's who transformed her life through a unique blend of massage therapy and posture patterns, showcasing the profound impact of personalized care and self-awareness. 

Ever wondered why your body craves certain foods or why you suddenly have an aversion to particular smells? This episode sheds light on how our bodies communicate with us through these subtle signals and the critical importance of tuning in. We discuss the troubling trend of sedentary lifestyles among young adults, leading to severe physical issues like lumbar compression and poor gait. By reconnecting with our body's natural cues and making small, intentional changes, we can bridge the gap between our ancestral genetics and our modern lives, reclaiming our health and vitality.

Feeling overwhelmed by the thought of overhauling your health routine? Fear not. We dive deep into practical, manageable steps for integrating self-care into your daily life. From simple stretching exercises to making space for regular physical activity and swapping out coffee for healthier alternatives, we emphasize the power of incremental changes. By pushing past personal boundaries and embracing consistent self-care routines, we can become self-sufficient in managing our health, ultimately reducing our reliance on an overburdened healthcare system. Tune in to discover how you can take charge of your well-being today!

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:13

Good afternoon everybody and welcome to Awakened Wellness. Marie and myself, jocelyn, are here to bring you another fantastic, fabulous show. I think you know you're really on a roll, dear, and we're getting to the nitty gritty and bringing these subjects to people in a very meaningful everyday process. Our shows Marie's show, where self-discovery meets purposeful, lasting change, not the quick fix feels good, sounds good, smells good, tastes good, but it's a quick change. We need something that's going to last for a lifetime. It's a process, it's a life skill that we all want. And to age gracefully because 24 to 34 is aging gracefully 34 to 44, as much as you little youngins don't think so the earlier you learn it, the earlier you learn it, the better off your body is and the easier it is for you. Because there's less, yeah, but so take it away. Do we have some feedback? We do? There's less, yeah, but so take it away. Do we have some feedback? We do? Oh, good, good, good. I love feedback.

Speaker 2: 1:30

Okay, the first one is the title of the show is the Price of Life and what we Won't Do to Ensure Our Future Health. That came from the producer of this show, art.

Speaker 1: 1:40

Yay, thanks, art.

Speaker 2: 1:41

He wanted to know what people wouldn't do to help themselves to better their lives. So we created a show for him so this is his show today.

Speaker 2: 1:49

Okay, yeah, so that's the first one. Um, the next one is a client. She has parkinson's and she does my posture for life all the time and it re-educates the body and it keeps her strong. But she finds when she goes to massage she gets very disoriented and her balance goes off. So she took it the next level with the massage therapist and said if you're going to stretch me, we have to do it in patterns, because you're screwing up my patterns and I lose my balance when I leave. So they work together. And she said I left feeling the best I've ever felt because we stayed in patterns, I didn't lose my balance, my body wasn't disoriented and I felt really good.

Speaker 1: 2:32

So let's back up for a second.

Speaker 2: 2:33

So when your patient said in patterns is that from your book and from the posture for life.

Speaker 1: 2:35

So there's another reason look up posture for life there's patterns for your body and individualize as you study on how you should do certain things.

Speaker 2: 2:48

And there it is what it is is your nervous system fires at a certain way. When you walk and when we get older and we've had injuries, it gets skewed and it cheats. This brings it back. So if your body's confused, it just brings you back and it works really well. If you have any kind of chronic pain it works really well, Like if you want to work out, you do it before you work out and you hit your muscles better You're on point, better because everybody shrinks a little as they age. So it brings everything back up to pattern correctly. And with Parkinson's it works really well because it just helps them re-educate every day to bring that patterning back. So it's huge.

Speaker 2: 3:23

But she noticed how much that helped her and we had talked over and over again why it helped. And then she took it to the next level when she went to a massage therapist and how nice that her massage therapist was open to it. But that's what I want for people to take it to the next level and make it work for them. Don't just take what I say. How are you going to use that for yourself in your everyday care?

Speaker 1: 3:43

And there she did. She did Goes to a massage therapist, realized that something was off, took the time to figure it out, backtracked a little bit and then brought it forward to that therapist who was open to making her the best she could be. I mean, that's like a perfect, perfect circle. I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 4:05

Nice. So, lucy, that one was for you. Yay, lucy. Yeah, all right, this one was a dear friend of mine, her stepdaughter.

Speaker 1: 4:12

Okay.

Speaker 2: 4:13

She's 21, I think, and they were talking about something and she got really mad and she said I know what I need to do, I just don't want to do it. And she says I'm very aware, I know right from wrong. I know what I need to do for my body, I just don't want to. And they both had a really long chat about that, and my friend herself has some of the same struggles. So it was a great moment for them to both see that they're fighting their own reality and that they really both need to sit tight with themselves and realize if you really know, you probably should start acting on it.

Speaker 1: 4:43

Right and that you can say I know, but I don't want to.

Speaker 2: 4:47

But for a 20-something-year-old, that's huge, that she's that aware of herself and that she's going against herself.

Speaker 1: 4:54

I hope she grows that she can butt up against that butt and say, well, we're all trying.

Speaker 2: 5:01

We're all trying Good for her, though I like it All right. So the price of life what we won't do to ensure our future health.

Speaker 1: 5:10

That's a loaded question.

Speaker 2: 5:12

Well, oh boy, let's dive on in. We won't take the time to truly understand the long term consequences of our choices.

Speaker 1: 5:19

We won't.

Speaker 2: 5:20

We won't, mm. Hmm, ok, and that ties into the last show beautifully. The infomercial medicine, right, correct? We won't really take the time to say if I do this fad diet, how is that going to affect me long-term, not short-term, yeah, we won't get to know us, to know what we truly need. We want that band-aid versus what our body needs.

Speaker 1: 5:40

We're not listening, we're not doing what the 21-year-old realized we were just whitewashing it.

Speaker 2: 5:49

We won't learn how our body works. I work with people I've been doing this over 20 years and very few of my clients really want to understand that when they push off that foot, it activates the opposite hip, which activates the opposite shoulder. You want to know that. That's your body. Lucy did that. That was huge for her. It was life-changing for her. We want to know how our body actually works so we know if we've been sitting too long we should get up and move, correct, you know?

Speaker 2: 6:17

You said something about the 20-somethings and the 30-somethings. They're at the biggest risk now because they're sitting for so many hours at these computers. They don't realize they're compressing that lumbar, they're skewing with that patterning that we just talked about and they're going to have lower lumbar arthritis by the time they're 35. They're not going to have good gait as they age. Their nervous system is going to shut down, their immune system is going to shut down, all those things because they don't want to think about what they're doing every day and what their body really needs in comparison to what they're doing.

Speaker 1: 6:47

Because they're in. I sometimes think about them as backpacks. We have all these little backpacks, so they're in this backpack right now that this is my job. My job says I have to sit my job, you know, I'm in front of a computer, I'm working, it's good, I'm earning my and it seems that that word I never can say compartmentalize. We're all doing that and none of the parts are talking.

Speaker 2: 7:15

Right. And what has happened over time? We've progressed so quickly with technology that we used to be farmers. We're not moving. Tv has taken over our lives, computers have taken, so we forgot who we were as the hunter-gatherer, but we're still that person. We haven't evolved out of that yet.

Speaker 1: 7:35

Correct.

Speaker 2: 7:36

But we're not paying any attention to it. That's still who we are. Well, it's our genetic makeup. You can't get away from it. I'm sorry. Yeah, you can't just cut it out. It's not because I want you to do it.

Speaker 1: 7:46

Right, because that's who you are right, and it should be incorporated into our life. But it hasn't. It's been shoved to the back burner, it's been pushed behind us, right, wow? And if we don't search for?

Speaker 2: 8:00

it if we don't even think for it. Think about it for half a second.

Speaker 1: 8:04

Correct. So let's just dance a little bit and then you can have that pill, you know, and we're laughing, but it's actually pretty serious.

Speaker 2: 8:14

But society is making it okay to take drugs or supplements. Society has given us the green card to take drugs or supplements, or over exercise or not exercise.

Speaker 1: 8:24

It's not your fault. No, but we've got the answer for you.

Speaker 2: 8:27

We have to take back our power. What we won't do is listen to our body and actually make choices on what it says, not what we want that's now one.

Speaker 1: 8:38

People uh people have asked me a lot about that and I send them to your website. So what would you say? Well, what do you mean? I need to listen to my body and what it wants.

Speaker 2: 8:47

Well, when you're sitting there and you picked up something out of the fridge and your gut starts gurgling as soon as it gets it in your hand, because you know when you eat that it does that, and you're in the bathroom in an hour. I think it was talking pretty loud and clear.

Speaker 1: 9:01

And it's that obvious. It is that obvious to most people. Yeah, yeah and again, just yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:08

The body tells you things all the time, right All the time.

Speaker 1: 9:11

Yeah, and we just we've chosen not to listen, or that's ridiculous. The hair goes up on the back of your neck. Let me tell you stop, look and listen, because it's 99.99% correct. I love that. That was a perfect example, because I think people think it's a lot more complicated than that and it's not Nice.

Speaker 2: 9:35

Yeah, there's energy in everything and the minute you bring that energy into your space like a negative person food that's negative you're going to feel it and you're going to get that sinking feeling like I ate that last time. But you know what? I really want that, so I'm eating it again. That's just one more time. Yeah, Just one more time. Your body's talking to you the whole time. Yeah, it doesn't ever stop.

Speaker 1: 9:54

There's another, another one that I've discovered when I was younger. And then you lose it as you get older. Life gets in the way and instantly I can smell something, a food, somebody's cooking a food and instantly I'll be like, oh nope, that's another sign, you know. Oh, I don't want to be rude, I don't want to eat it. Well, I don't want to be in the bathroom for three hours or feel terrible for the rest of the day. So that's another little clue that your body's giving you Smell. You can taste it sometimes.

Speaker 2: 10:26

You ever hear of dry January.

Speaker 1: 10:28

No, oh God, everybody stopped drinking for a month. Is that that one? Okay?

Speaker 2: 10:32

I don't know how many times I've heard. I can't believe how clear I am. I can't believe how good I feel. I can't believe how much weight I've lost. And then February comes around. I go, did you go back on it? Well, yeah, january's over. I go, did you go back on it? Well, yeah, january's over. The body talked the whole time and you didn't listen, but you were doing the fad thing. So it's over. But if you go inward, you realize, well, maybe I should, I can do it. Maybe not as much, right, maybe in a different way. Yeah, maybe know that it's gonna happen and then double down on your nutrition after because you've off, you screwed up your system. No, we just stop because dry, january's over. And then we go back. It's February. Yeah, february, let's go back. Silly us. Yeah, this is my favorite. Okay, we avoid self-care time and me time.

Speaker 2: 11:25

Okay, such as sitting quietly in the morning, laying at night and stretching before you go to bed because they get cramps all night long. Oh, I stretch in the morning, I go, but you get cramps at bedtime and you've walked all day and the body's stressed. No, I stretch in the morning or I don't stretch at all. I don't have time for that. Yeah, I go. What do you do before bed? I got all kinds of things I got to do before bed. We should take some time that quiets you. Yeah, I said you watch TV. Sometimes I go lay on the floor when you're watching TV, stretch on the floor, do a couple of stretches. I don't have room in my living room to do that. Okay, the excuses just come.

Speaker 2: 12:02

And I have somebody that has made excuses since the day I met her and she recently took the initiative and cleaned a room in her house and made it like an exercise room and somebody gave her a piece of equipment to use recently and she came me and I was like and did you like follow a book? It was a Pilates machine. What do they call those, the reformers? Okay, I said, did you fall? No, I just laid on it and played and did what my body wanted, cause I was just trying it out.

Speaker 2: 12:33

It was the best thing she ever did for herself, because she didn't do it the way someone told her to. She didn't get in a pattern, she just laid in there and just played. It was the best thing ever. That's excellent. But I noticed it right away in her body, which to me just is my verification that I'm on the right path, because nothing had changed up until then.

Speaker 2: 12:55

That's the only thing that had changed she made room she just took time for herself when inward played, didn't have an agenda, didn't focus. I have to do these many exercises, these many reps and if I don't do it I don't have time. I'm not going to go in there and do it.

Speaker 1: 13:08

But she just took the time and the fact that she even made room in her house, for it is huge.

Speaker 2: 13:14

That was another story in itself. That was big. She had to stand up for herself in her own home. Because not?

Speaker 1: 13:24

because anybody was upset with her doing it, because she felt like she was going to upset everybody to do it. So having that story that ready, because what if?

Speaker 2: 13:29

So she's like blooming, she's changing a lot, trying to take back her power and realize all these dialogues are stopping me from helping myself, but half of them aren't even real.

Speaker 1: 13:40

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 13:40

Which is really cool to me.

Speaker 1: 13:42

Wow. So not only do we give our power away, we also inhibit our own and don't listen to ourselves. That's pretty scary, yep.

Speaker 2: 13:54

We won't stop the fad diets, yep. And every time you do that, you lose bone and muscle, and you don't want to do that as you age.

Speaker 1: 14:01

No, muscle and bone are the most important.

Speaker 2: 14:03

Crucial yeah, so that's a big one. We won't cook. Yeah, we won't cook to save our own lives. We won't even try. I don't know how. I don't like it. I'm not going to do it, but it's part of survival, it's part of who we are, it's part of what we need to do to survive and we should try it to see if you really start.

Speaker 1: 14:24

Is that something you decided 20 years ago?

Speaker 2: 14:26

Get an air fryer. You can cook your meat, your vegetables, your potatoes.

Speaker 1: 14:29

I got an air fryer. I love it. I love vegetables in the air fryer. They're not. Salmon in the air fryer is to die for the chicken in the air fryer.

Speaker 2: 14:43

Because you don't have to make a lot of dishes. You can learn how to do it.

Speaker 1: 14:48

There's plenty of websites, Facebook pages that tell you how to do everything. If you get a big enough one and there's just two people, you can do your two portions of the meat on one side.

Speaker 2: 14:53

Oh, they even have ones that are like convection ovens. Now, and you have the little trays. My daughter has one of those.

Speaker 1: 14:58

Yeah, oh yes, yeah, yep, and you don't need the oils because it's air frying, if you might want a little, I squirt olive oil on like asparagus yeah, I do too. Oh, so good. It's like candy. It is, it really is, and I love vegetables, but I hated preparing them and I loathed that it all tasted and felt the texture was mush, yep.

Speaker 2: 15:25

No, the zucchini gets all crispy and soft inside.

Speaker 1: 15:31

I do, I do them, do them long and oh yeah. So next next show will be cooking. Cooking for those who hate it.

Speaker 2: 15:39

Grocery shop? We won't grocery shop to save our lives? Yeah, Especially in today's world. Now we click buttons and we have it delivered. Do you know? I've never done that. Oh, I have people that won't even go in the store and I'm like they say to me well, how did you find that I go?

Speaker 2: 15:53

because I went in the store and walked around, because you'll always find new ideas, new things. You didn't think of another new product that you can read and it makes you think of something else. If you stop yourself from going out and exploring, it stays the same all the time.

Speaker 1: 16:06

You never break out.

Speaker 2: 16:08

You're in a self-imposed prison, then I hear do you know how much time it takes? Or I don't want to walk that big store, I'll only go to little stores.

Speaker 1: 16:20

You do want to walk that big store. I mean, I agree with the big stores and mine is mainly. You know, from my, my PTS. It smells and and I literally will make me sick to my stomach and I have to get out. So I've learned, though.

Speaker 2: 16:30

But if you're walking the perimeter like you're supposed to Right, don't go on the inside.

Speaker 1: 16:35

But what I found is so I have this circle that I do, so I'll leave the house and I go early. I leave at 730 in the morning because I'm a morning person and I'll go straight down to Trader Joe's because they open at 8 o'clock.

Speaker 2: 16:51

That's a real store and there's nobody there.

Speaker 1: 16:54

And I have my set things that I get, I'm in, I'm out, and then I fly over to Aldi's because they've got certain things that I like and they've got three or four ingredients. I grab those. Sometimes I go to Whole Foods it depends on what the week is and what I want to do and then I might pop into Market Basket and just where I want to be, where there's not a lot of smell, and I come out and people say that takes forever, takes me less than two hours. What are you doing with that time? It's less than two hours, yeah, and, like you said, you can see oh, what she just put in. What do you? What do you use that for? What's that vegetable? What is that thing?

Speaker 2: 17:35

and you can have a conversation yeah, I knew somebody who was eating out every night because he had the means and it was just easier. And now he's been grocery shopping and cooking. Oh my God, the recipes he told me he created and how fun he's having. We started swapping recipes because I was like, wow, that's pretty cool. And he came in and I was just like, wow, you're glowing, what's different? What's different? And it was just his nutrition, because he wasn't eating out every day.

Speaker 1: 18:01

Wow, and he has recipes.

Speaker 2: 18:03

That's what blows my mind. Well, you can go online and Google anything.

Speaker 1: 18:05

Well, I know, but for somebody that eats out all the time to all of a sudden be like recipes.

Speaker 2: 18:09

He just decided to explore and he couldn't believe how much better he feels, so I thought that was very cool.

Speaker 1: 18:14

See, guys, you can do it.

Speaker 2: 18:19

You can, anybody can? We just have this dialogue in our heads. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. I'm only going to do this much. I can only do this much. That's what I hear all the time. I only want this. Don't give me too much. I can't do it. Yeah, I already did that. I'm not going to, okay. Okay, eating whole foods is something we won't do.

Speaker 2: 18:39

Now, when you say whole foods, explain to us whole foods Meat, potato vegetable Not already cooked for you, not processed, not processed for you, not the steamables In a TV dinner, not yeah just whole foods. You know, toast your own bread and make your own eggs.

Speaker 1: 18:56

I found a recipe for three-ingredient bread. Nice, I'm going to try it. Nice, I was like three ingredients, I like that, mm-hmm. Okay, I'll report back on how it is, yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:10

Trying new foods. Yeah, trying new foods is big for a variety of nutrition. I was in the grocery store the other day and she was probably about eight. She says to her mom and dad Mom, can I have one of these? And they were like no, it was an avocado. And they said you tried that when you were a baby and you didn't like it. Oh, okay, you're now eight. Oh, and she puts it back down.

Speaker 2: 19:32

It took everything in my power not to walk up to him to say but she is a little older now and kids do do that when they're funny, but the kid's going to be jaded for life that I don't like this food. Right, because they said so. And that was just a perfect example of what I see in adults all the time. No, I don't like that. When was the last time you tried it? Oh, 20-something years ago. I don't like that, you know, because it's a memory and you won't go there, but it's robbing you of nutrients. So explore it, you know, try new things. For me I didn't get too involved and you think about it if the kid can't have it. And she tried it when she was a kid and didn't like it, and mom and dad said no, they don't even have it in the house for themselves and the other kids.

Speaker 1: 20:09

So they're depriving themselves because they might like it. Well, apparently they don't or they'd have it in the house.

Speaker 2: 20:15

Or they'd have it in the house. But I thought it was so interesting how quickly they shut her down and told her when she was a baby she didn't like it, she can't have it. But that's a reactive behavior, not a take a second take a breath.

Speaker 1: 20:37

Sure, let's see. That's a great idea. Let's try it and see. Let's see what can we do with it.

Speaker 2: 20:39

Yeah, Wow. So think about the things we won't do for diabetes, right, If you're a diabetic? I've had a couple of clients with that. You know my wife's a baker, I got to eat it. No, you don't. But they don't realize every time they raise that blood sugar the inflammatory response goes up. They're damaging organs, they're damaging tissue and they won't give it up because they love it and they don't realize the long-term effect it's having on their body.

Speaker 1: 21:01

And again, long-term effect not immediately obvious. So therefore, yeah, but I didn't have to take my insulin, but I didn't have to this, so it's okay.

Speaker 2: 21:10

And it's not Heart disease. What are people not doing? Mostly not moving, not moving. Or they got their 5,000 steps. They did those 5,000 steps. We'll try 5,500 today. No, I did my 5,000. That's it. But the body gets used to that level of movement and you're not conditioning anymore. Up your ante a little, try something new. If you're lifting five pounds, try six. Yeah, so it's just a matter of listening to your body and feel. But they're doing it to the letter because they don't want to be doing it to begin with. So they're doing just that amount. You know, I had somebody come in and I'm like still the same workout. Huh, yep, it works for me. I go you do realize it's been five years and you're doing the exact same exercises and I said you say you're rigid. No, I like my workout. I'm like, okay, there's nothing you can do with that because, they don't want.

Speaker 2: 21:55

It's hard to try new things. It's uncomfortable. Uncomfortable is where change happens. Because you sit in the uncomfortableness, you go past those boundaries inside yourself and then you realize oh my God, I did that.

Speaker 1: 22:08

I know I get uncomfortable. I know I do too, but you know what you do is you go to Facebook and you look at a reel, or you happen to click on TikTok and I'm not promoting these people, but you click on something. I'll see this lady. A lot of people don't use the.

Speaker 1: 22:21

Internet like that, though A lot of people do not, but I'm just like scrolling through and they'll have these great exercises and I'm like, if I did that and I tweaked it with this, I get great ideas from that. I should do that for recipes. Yep Osteoporosis.

Speaker 2: 22:38

Get a workout partner if you have to. But if I hear one more time, as soon as I get a gym membership, as soon as I do this, as soon as I do that, I'm going to start it in a month. The body doesn't care. The body's still breaking down that month doesn't matter, it's not going to go.

Speaker 1: 22:54

Okay, I'm going to put it on hold till you join Work out in your home.

Speaker 2: 22:57

There's a lot people can do in their home. Take two water gallons and walk with them.

Speaker 1: 23:00

Go up and down your stairs.

Speaker 2: 23:02

Go up and down your stairs Up, down, up down, but people do not want to work in their home enough to save their lives. And then they have every excuse and I'm amazed that, oh, I'm going to do that in a month. And they tell me these agendas a month or two months and I'm like, why not now? Why not now? Because they have a plan, but the plan never comes out, but the in the interim is not going to wait for your plan. It all adds up so, yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:32

So the goal is to break that cycle. Start small changes, just tiny little changes, but get to know what you're not doing to help yourself. Just, you want to manage your habits just by slowly starting to get to know yourself and what you're doing and not doing, and just make little changes, little changes, and just start really getting to know yourself and what your body needs and make a plan, make a health plan. What do I want to accomplish in the next six months and what do I need to do that? And then narrow that down. Ok, I need to do this, but that's too much. What can I do now? All right, what can I do this week? What can I do today? And then start with that one and then go yeah, do what you need to do, but don't not do anything.

Speaker 1: 24:14

It occurred to me when you were saying that and in closing, I just want to make sure you tell everybody how to find you and that the new website and everything it occurred to me. You know, I got this picture in my head when you were talking about somebody sitting in the couch and you know, ooh, the little Charlie horse, or ooh, your bum is getting numb, as my mom would say I'm getting numb bum, or just pick your legs up, if you know, depending on what your health level is, just pick your knees up.

Speaker 1: 24:44

That's the one little thing you can do.

Speaker 2: 24:47

Right then, and there it's very simple Yep, do the clicker 10 times and then change hands, and I, you know, I mean, I'm laughing but no, but as long as you're moving, you're starting Yep, yep, I mean, it's up to you, yeah, and what price are you willing to pay? What are you willing to not do?

Speaker 1: 25:02

For your health.

Speaker 2: 25:02

Because it all adds up.

Speaker 1: 25:04

It all matters.

Speaker 2: 25:05

What this show is about is our health care system is struggling, so if we don't double down and start taking care of ourselves, you're subjected to a very inadequate system.

Speaker 1: 25:15

And again giving all your power away.

Speaker 2: 25:17

Yeah and yeah. And your caregivers, who do you trust? Enough that's going to take care of you the way you would want to be cared for, and that's a big deal. I mean, I'm looking to not have anybody caring for me. That's my goal. That's my goal too. Yeah, self-sufficient.

Speaker 2: 25:32

And I know it sounds daunting, but the goal is to just throw it out there. So you'll have an epiphany and then just stick to that epiphany and go to it. Don't try to take it all in. Just know, become aware and then have that one that, oh, I get it, she's, and every day you're looking at it. Now, that coffee gives me wicked reflux. That coffee, well, now you gotta try to figure it out. Try mixing someone said baking soda in their coffee a little somebody said better once, somebody yeah, or you can do the dandelion tea and just put a little coffee in that and it'll help you wean off a coffee.

Speaker 2: 26:02

they have dandelion, chicory root and dandelion tea and then you, you go half and half all the way until you wean off of it. There's plenty of ways that you can calm the reflux down. But don't keep getting reflux. That's Barrett syndrome. That can be esophageal cancer. You're fooling yourself and thinking it's only coffee. Wow, because it adds up.

Speaker 1: 26:18

All right.

Speaker 2: 26:19

It's a mess, yeah, so awaken, and infoawakenwellness at gmailcom.

Speaker 1: 26:24

Excellent. So and we'll be putting that up for you we will be back with two more fabulous shows. Make sure you send in your comments, your concerns or wonderful things that you've achieved so that we can share it with the audience, because I think that's the best part. Yeah, have yourselves a fabulous day and Marie and I will see you next time.

Speaker 2: 27:08

Thank you.