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Political Power Plays, Catholic Controversies, and Celebrity Culture Collide
Imagine all the political tensions and strategic negotiations that led to the ousting of Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House. Not only did we delve into the fallout within the Republican Party, but also the ripple effects this political drama has on the future of American politics. We dive into the rise of Matt Gates, making sense of how the debt ceiling deal with Joe Biden played a crucial role in this political swap.
Have you ever wondered about the mysteries and controversies of the Catholic Church? We've pulled back the curtain on the changes post Vatican II, the significance of the Latin language in services, and even the concept of mortal and venial sins. From questioning the power of priests to absolve sins, to evaluating the Church's teachings and how they're interpreted, we've left no stone unturned. We also delve into the implications of Pope Francis's attempts to make the Church more inclusive and accepting.
Tupac Shakur... The mystery is finally solved? GC talks about the significance of Tupac's stardom and the impact of his murder.
Lastly, we ventured into the realm of pop culture, dissecting the implications of celebrity relationships, particularly on ticket and jersey sales - and the spotlight is on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. We explore the intriguing possibility of their relationship being a publicity stunt and discuss the impact of Swift's music on her fans and celebrity culture. Hear our views on whether Swift and Kelsey's relationship is a setup for publicity, and how Swift's "Swifty Effect" has transformed celebrity culture. We wrap up the episode with a heartfelt appeal for support to keep these intriguing discussions going. Tune in next week for more insightful conversations!
This is a long one, so, like Led Zeppelin said... Ramble on!
Imagine all the political tensions and strategic negotiations that led to the ousting of Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House. Not only did we delve into the fallout within the Republican Party, but also the ripple effects this political drama has on the future of American politics. We dive into the rise of Matt Gates, making sense of how the debt ceiling deal with Joe Biden played a crucial role in this political swap.
Have you ever wondered about the mysteries and controversies of the Catholic Church? We've pulled back the curtain on the changes post Vatican II, the significance of the Latin language in services, and even the concept of mortal and venial sins. From questioning the power of priests to absolve sins, to evaluating the Church's teachings and how they're interpreted, we've left no stone unturned. We also delve into the implications of Pope Francis's attempts to make the Church more inclusive and accepting.
Tupac Shakur... The mystery is finally solved? GC talks about the significance of Tupac's stardom and the impact of his murder.
Lastly, we ventured into the realm of pop culture, dissecting the implications of celebrity relationships, particularly on ticket and jersey sales - and the spotlight is on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. We explore the intriguing possibility of their relationship being a publicity stunt and discuss the impact of Swift's music on her fans and celebrity culture. Hear our views on whether Swift and Kelsey's relationship is a setup for publicity, and how Swift's "Swifty Effect" has transformed celebrity culture. We wrap up the episode with a heartfelt appeal for support to keep these intriguing discussions going. Tune in next week for more insightful conversations!
This is a long one, so, like Led Zeppelin said... Ramble on!
What is happening? My brother, what's up? It's about G-D-D-D-D, uh-uh, uh-uh. That means G-C and David. What's happening? What's happening? You had a good week.
Speaker 2:I did. It's busy week.
Speaker 3:Well, you had to do what? Moving and moving and moving and moving and moving and moving and moving and moving oh yeah, man Got to move from a apartment, a temporary apartment, to a temporary apartment, condo.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:To a permanent house.
Speaker 2:Yes, Good luck. Thankfully we have a contractor to build our house.
Speaker 3:Yes, soon I'm going to make everybody. I'm going to make not tonight, but I'll make you tell the story of how you had to move out of your house.
Speaker 1:That's a good one.
Speaker 3:But today, if you are listening, one thank you for listening, because we know there's all 12 of you out there that we really love.
Speaker 1:I'm kidding now there's more.
Speaker 3:What they were like 40 today 40 and 48.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen, hey, thank you guys for listening to this shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's nice. Thank you to my mom for downloading it 36 times to make our numbers go. Get the f-. I made mom log on on 36 different computers to make sure that it looked different.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen, can I tell you a quick story? Yeah, I was in the grocery store and I was walking by and I was talking and someone said hey, do I know you? I said, no, Listen, I'm just like everybody else and I'm not famous and I just want to be left alone and I know I do this show. And I was like, oh my God, this is going to be a long, protracted conversation. And I said oh, you may. She said Did you work in my yard?
Speaker 2:She said because if you did, you do landscaping right, Because my next door neighbor used you. No way you were great.
Speaker 3:You never did your work. No, come on. Yes, I thought you were just going to say you look like the guy.
Speaker 2:No, she's just like I thought she was going to say. You know, like that GD show and all that shit, no, you thought, because she had heard you, that she would recognize your face. Yeah.
Speaker 3:See, that's a problem with your thinking, not her. Hey.
Speaker 2:I just, you know, I was like oh shit she yeah. Well, anyway, that's what happened. You know, I was like Okay, well, today on our show.
Speaker 3:First we're going to talk about all. We got some big news. Actually, I'm not going to say it yet because it's breaking news tonight. Yes, actually, by the time you listen to this, it will not be breaking. Number two we're going to talk about a little later is the Synod conference.
Speaker 2:Catholic bishops, Cardinals and the Pope.
Speaker 3:There's some crisis in the Catholic church.
Speaker 2:This is going to be juicy.
Speaker 3:You got the, you got the ex-Catholic and the Jew, ex-catholic and the Jew In the Jew. I don't know why I said that.
Speaker 2:You know anytime, you anytime you say, let me, let me tell you something. You need to be really careful anytime you say the Jews I did.
Speaker 3:I'm Dave. Chappelle said that he did.
Speaker 1:But see, that's why I have you here, so I can say offensive things.
Speaker 3:You correct me and we can teach everybody a lesson.
Speaker 2:You don't want them to take your ideas. Can you call me the?
Speaker 3:ex-Catholic. I'm not offensive. Can you just call me the damned?
Speaker 1:Just call me the damned oh we got the damned.
Speaker 3:And then, third on the show, we have the topic that you all want to talk about. Well, we got two stories in there.
Speaker 2:Two pocket-tayla yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't worry, we'll get to it. So anyway, play a little clip for you, all right, and then we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1:The yeas are 216. The nays are 210. The resolution is adopted without objection. The motion to reconsider is laid on the table. The office of Speaker of the House of the United States House of Representatives is hereby declared vacant.
Speaker 3:Oh snap, you saw this coming. Though, you saw this coming, I did.
Speaker 2:I didn't see it coming. I want to say I did One has become two.
Speaker 3:They're a divided house. Yes, they are. So for those of you who don't know what that clip is talking about, first turn on your damn TV or your radio or read a newspaper. But for those of you who don't know, that's Kevin McCarthy. Speaker of the House. Gop Party has now been ousted by, basically, Matt Gates.
Speaker 2:Yes, he started it. This was a public firing Public and you and I talked about this. We knew. I knew this was coming, because last time, in a couple episodes ago we were talking about you know, I was saying the government won't shut down and you know the Republicans, kevin, as Speaker of the House, will have to caucus with the Democrats. He's going to have to. He had no choice. So those people were waiting, david, for him to do that. They would say, ok, this is people like Matt Gates was like. This is my opening because he has portrayed his constituency and so when he did it and he kept the government running like adults should.
Speaker 2:That was their opening.
Speaker 3:I mean, I think that kicked him and it goes back to the deal they made on the debt ceiling. That was the first spot where he made a deal with Biden, everything kept going Right. Biden conceded a little bit, biden got probably more what he wanted. Everybody's mad, but let's, let's face it, let's talk about what this really is.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:Just to you, grand old party members who might be listening you probably are more reasonable Maybe you don't think you are, but you probably are If you knew the inner workings of the government, if you knew what goes on where the sausage is made, which GC Sorry, almost had it GC knows, you know we're all not that different. We all kind of want the same things. We do, I guess, without rambling what's going to happen now.
Speaker 2:Well, they probably would get a pro-tim and then they would get a pro-tim, and Kevin McCarthy can't submit somebody's name. If I were a betting man, I would say that Kevin, all right, kevin could get his job back. I'm talking about him like I.
Speaker 3:But he'd have to run again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he could we have to go back through all like he did in January. And you know that the rounds he just have too many people in his own party and his own.
Speaker 3:But even that took forever. It took 15, 16. He got 15 and 16.
Speaker 2:Yes, but he would have to do all of that over again. D and it's not worth it. He's not going to do that.
Speaker 3:And it was because of the Freedom Caucus Is that what they're calling so the Freedom Caucus. So they're going to try and put one of their own up there, but no one's going to vote for the Freedom Caucus either, Right? So this is going to go on again. It's the.
Speaker 2:MAGA crowd.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you know he should have been the speaker of the house in the first place. If it took 15, 16, how many tries it was to get that position, you weren't going to hold on to it in the first place, but who else? Was going for it. Well, there was a bunch of people were putting their names in there.
Speaker 3:But no one got more votes than him.
Speaker 2:No one was serious.
Speaker 3:He was the most serious Right.
Speaker 2:And they couldn't really do it. He really wanted it. And then he had to cut. See, that's why I'm not in that game anymore. This is so dirty. He had to cut deals with people that he couldn't stand. He had to shake hands with people, he just didn't like you talking about NTG.
Speaker 2:Yes, Not her, not that little hooker, but she, you know not her, but she went along with him and then she suffered the consequences of going with him. That game is so dirty that when you make, when you sleep with the devil, you know you're gonna get up hot. Yeah, you know. There's a saying. I don't know who said it ants don't eat shit. I don't know who said it ants don't eat shit.
Speaker 3:Why so you talking about the? You're not talking about uncles and ants, you're talking about I'm talking about bugs, bugs Okay, ants flies eat shit, not ants, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So that's what he had to do, and now they, the chickens, are coming home. The roost, and they kicked them out.
Speaker 3:That was a public firing first time ever public history first time.
Speaker 2:No, they, it happened. They didn't nice house that not the speaker.
Speaker 3:Yes they ousted the speaker a hundred years ago.
Speaker 2:Something like 1910 maybe yeah, 1910. That's, that's the first thing about how many?
Speaker 3:okay, here's the thing. Think about how many hated people there are in history Pelosi was hated, ingrish hated. I mean pretty much everybody's come to speak around. I don't feel like people hated Bainer, beiner, bainer. We didn't hate Bainer, we were just kind of like Lord, he didn't we, he annoyed people he did, but he was a dealmaker too, though he was held hostage.
Speaker 3:I'm not the crying man, yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, he's a cryer, but he was at the time. Remember he wanted deals with Obama, but he couldn't. Every time he tried to make a deal, he'd go back and you'd have your boy, a little workout guy that's out now and all his people who was a little workout guy. He'd like, would do videos working out, and he was on his way to becoming speaker and head of the Party, and then he had to quit when Trump came along.
Speaker 2:With the from Wisconsin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, whoever. Whoever gets that right, you can email GC, will give you a t-shirt.
Speaker 1:One day.
Speaker 3:First one, though we don't have enough for everybody gets that right so. But the point is like this isn't. This is a very historic landmark. Stupid time to be alive makes me depressed. I was actually on the way to do this podcast we had, we had Several other things we were going to talk about, and then you Text me a say you actually didn't say that, but you were saying they're about to get rid of him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's happening right now and a lot on live television, I know and I'm getting ready to like go to the store and get myself a burrito or something, and Nah, I put that I had to come home and get that little audio clip uploaded.
Speaker 2:He. They pulled his pants down and spanked him On national tv in front of the world. I keep saying A public. The world saw this dude get fired.
Speaker 3:I know, you know it's funny. I was just watching billions with, uh oh Carmen, who I can't call my partner. I called her partner last time and she thought that sounded weird. So my girlfriend.
Speaker 1:Yo Carmen, my boo, yo boo, yo boo.
Speaker 3:My little girl, she, uh, we're watching billions and uh, we happen to be in, I don't know second to last season, I think, and paul jamadis character is turni general or new york and. He, you know, cook, crosses everybody and eventually they oust him On the senate floor, and I just watched that last night, did you? So, you know, and that's not a common thing? They don't oust people this often. You know, they censure people they.
Speaker 3:Have many other ways of punishing you. Oh yeah, they don't. But let me tell you something I want to spank the shit out of mac gates. That's just that guy. He's that frat boy. He just want to beat the shit out of he is. You know he's one driving drunk, daddy gets him out of it. And then all of a sudden, he's going after drunk drivers.
Speaker 2:I think his daddy was a state powerful states Florida Senator, yeah something something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is that dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So, mac gates, if you can hear me right now, oh, I want to spank your ass.
Speaker 2:You're talking to a congressman.
Speaker 3:What is that? Is that a threat? Do I go to jail?
Speaker 2:for that you better fucking believe it, and he might like it.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'll tell you what Mac gates I want to get some cocaine, have a little party. I'm gonna spank that ass now. Does that make it better?
Speaker 2:There's one that like cocaine yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, he does. That's why they got rid of caught. Was it cothorn the? How was his name? The one in the wheelchair?
Speaker 2:from Carolina and I don't know because of that.
Speaker 3:Well he? He said like I'm not going to these gop parties. There's a bunch of cocaine and hookers or something.
Speaker 1:Did he say that yes, and then all of a sudden he was gone? There's no.
Speaker 3:Quick way. Maybe that's why McCarthy's gone.
Speaker 2:Maybe why he's gonna out there, because you don't do uh blow. Is that where you go with that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, maybe, or you know, they all do blow. Come on, I would know. Do you hear something? Do I hear that background noise?
Speaker 2:That could be secret service.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that wasn't the secret service. That was my sump pump for, uh, for my air conditioner. So yeah, hopefully, hopefully, okay.
Speaker 1:Paul Ryan, I'm just kidding, paul.
Speaker 3:Ryan, that was his name, sorry, sorry, listeners, we gave the answer. No more t-shirt, all right, uh, so anyway, that's big news, hopefully this uh so what do we?
Speaker 2:what? What did we learn? I mean before we are you seriously.
Speaker 3:I mean think about as Americans, as people, have we learned lessons?
Speaker 2:D. This is one of the most historic things that happen in our lifetime.
Speaker 3:Okay, january 6th. What would you like besides that?
Speaker 2:Besides that, okay, uh, what I learned about january 6th. Yeah, I know a bunch of rednecks can run up into uh capital. Oh, come on, it's me Poopoo.
Speaker 3:They were patriots all over the wall.
Speaker 2:It would have been my black ass. We would have been blood all over the walls, yeah.
Speaker 3:Duh, who's that peeking in my window?
Speaker 1:Nobody.
Speaker 3:Uh, I was, so it's. How do we transition from that? So yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen, don't really care, I do kind of care. I don't care, let me. Let me clarify I don't give a shit about politics because it pisses me off. Okay, I want to spank asses when we talk about politics. What I do care about is the direction of the country.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's very important holding hands.
Speaker 3:I love, I love all that stuff right about uh, moving forward together. This shit I don't care about. It's stupid, it's political drama. It is well, it's also bullshit. I mean, think about the, the reason they're upset what they didn't get their, they didn't get their government shutdown over things that they want, that you say their constituents Mm-hmm, I don't even know that there's constituents want the things they want. They'll still vote for them.
Speaker 1:Yes, they will. You know the majority people.
Speaker 3:Don't want to outlaw abortion for all reasons right, wasn't that? In on the On the government shutdown.
Speaker 2:I have no idea.
Speaker 3:They, they added things.
Speaker 2:I don't know. They were basically saying like we want no more spending.
Speaker 3:We want to cut this, cut that right. Oh, and, by the way, no abortions. I don't remember if it was they were trying to, so you're talking about and no abortions as far as after.
Speaker 2:I don't know if there was 12 weeks.
Speaker 1:I don't know the details, I just know that they were slipping in An abortion thing.
Speaker 3:Okay to the to the government shutdown.
Speaker 2:I would have to go back and revisit so alive.
Speaker 3:But this isn't a political show, so don't try and like don't tell don't tell all your friends.
Speaker 2:I just wanted you know, I was like, like.
Speaker 3:David said, um, that they were trying. Well, if I'm wrong, you know what, whatever, but you all know who you're listening. You think this is stupid too, but here we are talking about it because breaking news is breaking news.
Speaker 2:We got to put it on. We're like CNN. Yeah, we did. We did dungeon philosophers.
Speaker 3:We're gonna tell you Our thoughts on it and you can take it as you will, and the problem with the dungeon is there's no light, so you go crazy.
Speaker 2:We are the philosophers, brother, we are the philosophers. Well, we bring the light, we bring it.
Speaker 3:So I'm trying to be stoic and so up. Next I'm gonna let. I'm gonna let. Uh gc asked me he wanted to bring this up, so I'll talk.
Speaker 2:I did the. If you're not aware, there was an article that came out that talked about the catholic Senate and it's, if you're not aware, with the catholic senate is it's when the pope and his advisors get together and they talk about the issues surrounding the catholic church. And how do they move forward? Do they adopt new rules where they let people from the gay community A part be priests? They they let women be priests.
Speaker 2:You know how do we approach this? Do we move forward or do we stay where we are, where a lot of the cardinals are? They say, hey, listen, the catholic church does not allow that. So the pope has to come and get his Committee together and say, hey, listen, where are we taking the catholic church? A lot of the old school Poles, I mean cardinals and priests are saying uh, yeah, now we can't allow gay people to Become priests, we can't allow women in the church, because paul said famously, women should shut up in the church and not be heard. So you know, peter Paul, they kind of big, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I am the Hebrew saying these things.
Speaker 3:But I want, your opinion doesn't count.
Speaker 2:It doesn't, it don't count worth a damn it does, and let me tell you why.
Speaker 3:All right, let's start. Before we can talk about the sentence let's talk about I am an ex-Catholic, I am no longer a practicing Catholic. That would take not one podcast, that would not take ten. That is season after season if I told you why. But one thing is if you know Catholics Catholics believe a lot of so that the reason that the Episcopals broke Episcopals broke off, lutherans broke off. They didn't like a pope, they didn't like the Pope is considered the vicar of Christ, basically a Person who is now basically the head of the church. He is infallible. His word is the word of Christ. No, you heard that right? Okay, hmm, that this man. What he says is like listening to God himself and Christ's divinity coming through.
Speaker 2:So the Pope is like I love you more than Jesus.
Speaker 3:You accept when the Pope says something you don't like Like. We should love one another. We should hold hands. Oh you know, just because you have a JJ Doesn't mean that Jesus doesn't love you too, and you can Be a leader as well but you can't put that roll ball and it's now and that's the thing.
Speaker 3:Okay, so this is some bullshit. All right, let's, let's talk about this. Okay, used to be a joke that you know about Vatican II, 1963, 64, something like that. They had a whole re coming together. It's one of these synods, except I think it was Senate, senate, I don't know how you say it, but it's. It was bigger, you know, it's the big.
Speaker 3:We're going to change the rules of the church because, basically, you know why they were losing attendance? Because church was in Latin. People didn't know what they were saying all around the world. They had to be in Latin. Okay, the priest didn't face you when he was blessing the Host and the, you know, turned the water into our sorry, the wine, into the blood of Jesus the host, which is a piece of bread, a wafer, if you will right. It's turned into Jesus, um, the body and blood of Christ.
Speaker 3:Okay, so the whole thing is very Hems were in Latin. It's very like, you know, it's like going to the same show every week and you're like so what's happening right now? And so Vatican II comes along, though, hey, we need, we need more money, we're losing people. So that's what makes them change the rules, right, okay, you're finally, in a day and age where people have TV, they have a radio, they have movies, it's not like the last 2,000 years when you could scare them because there's no electricity and in the dark you can say the devil's coming to get you.
Speaker 2:Oh, if you give me your money, if you give me your money, I'll get you out of.
Speaker 3:I get you out of hell. So in, we all know hell is basically based on Dante's inferno. So let's talk about the ridiculousness. But before I go too far, vatican II they change rules. One of them now you can have mass in your own language. The priest will now face the congregation. He will, you know, bless the host. Oh, by the way, you don't have to have only Latin hymns and things like that. But here is one of the little rules you don't know about. Oh, if I am wrong someone, please write GC and tell them how wrong.
Speaker 3:I am, oh yeah, right my but I don't have an email address. Oh, oh, I don't know, I'm not checking it, so so okay, before Vatican II. You know about venial sins and mortal sins.
Speaker 2:Do you know what this is?
Speaker 3:No okay, so immortal sin is a sin that you commit, that unless you the good Lord won't forgive you for no, he'll forgive you, but let's you know, in cat, in Catholicism, you have to go to a priest to be forgiven.
Speaker 1:Okay, you can't go to the God Almighty.
Speaker 3:He's not strong enough to that without going through a priest Right. So you go to the priest, you have a mortal sin on you and you die before you can get to confession and get absolved. Get, get absolution Okay, you will go straight to hell. So like murder as a mortal sin, okay, adultery mortal sin.
Speaker 2:That's rough baby.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think at the time beating your wife was a mortal sin. But anyway, whatever the point is, venial sin is like a Little white lie. You know something not that important? You're gonna go to purgatory, made up place. I think there's like one verse in the Bible that talks about a place and it doesn't even call it purgatory. That's not the point, because it kind of came from Jews. Purgatory, the idea of that, you could be Dead oh, no that, on that, no that you haven't gone to heaven yet.
Speaker 3:It's a place where you wait until you get to heaven. Sure, now, catholics, you're right, but it's our version. Is purgatory Okay, except in?
Speaker 1:Judaism.
Speaker 3:I was about to say that. Like in your, in your in your religion, judaism, you just wait it's like an eternal silence until the time that you get raised up in Catholicism. It turned to purgatory. That way you could be tortured, but in a in a nice way, because at least in purgatory you know you're gonna go to heaven, so there's hope. But in hell you're just tortured. The pain is the same.
Speaker 2:That's how ridiculous it is. Wait, wait yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'm asking, and I even got it. I haven't gotten to the good part yet, but keep going. What?
Speaker 2:so before you send into Paradise or heaven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, whatever you guys call it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you getting poked in ass with a pitch for it by the.
Speaker 3:Yeah In purgatory, or basically they call it like a white purifying fire in purgatory, but in hell it's, you know, just eternal damnation. But so the point is, mortal sin will pull you straight down. Venial sin is something that you know can live on you or you can. You can get away with. You can go to purgatory, still get to heaven. You have a mortal sin. You go directly to hell, no chance to get out, okay, so whatever. Before Vatican II it was a bigger sin. Now I don't know how this is weighed outside of mortal and venial, but it was a bigger sin to masturbate. Uh-huh, as a man it was a bigger sin to masturbate than it was to rape a woman. Now Tell me why Are you serious? Yeah, but tell me why.
Speaker 2:You spilling your seed? Yes, You're.
Speaker 3:So? You yeah, because if you rape a woman at least, then you can have a kid right. Well that's holy.
Speaker 2:Oh man, yes, I screwed up. Now they did change it.
Speaker 3:But think about that Jesus dies and something like 20 something, and Well, it would be called a D at that time. But and it takes until 19, what? And it wasn't even in the Bible. By the way, those are verses that they took those rules from in the Bible and a guy named st Thomas Aquinas came up with it. St Tom, what?
Speaker 2:can I ask you a question? Sure, if, while you're masturbating, you turn your hand the other way and make it look like somebody else doing it, is that the same thing?
Speaker 3:So turn your hand.
Speaker 2:You're saying like it would be, turn it the other way it'd be less of a sin if you turn your hand the other way, you're still spilling the seeds.
Speaker 3:So maybe if you cup your hand right as you're doing, it right and catch it. But that is crazy.
Speaker 2:If you're saying raping a woman.
Speaker 3:No, that was true, yeah is that are you serious. Yeah, I mean, I could be wrong. That was a story I was always told and, yes, I have repeated that many times. But yes, there were a lot of rules changed, of Attican too. So now, here's where my point comes. Now we're here in 2023. We're having this Senate, and the reason is is because, okay, so this guy named Strickland, bishop Strickland, there's a cardinal, I think it's Bishop. Right, he's down in Texas. Is this correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he's down in Texas and he's accusing the Pope this comes from an article, by the way, to trains charging at each other, a Texas Bishop takes on the Pope. Good writer, her name is Ruth Graham. Anyway, here's. Here's a thing to open it up. Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, texas, has accused the Pope of undermining the Catholic faith, has suggested that other Vatican Officials have veered so far from the church, teaching that they are no longer Catholic Not always a bad thing and has warned that a landmark global gathering that opens this week at the Vatican could threaten basic truths of Catholic doctrine. I have a problem with that word truth, because all religion is interpretation.
Speaker 2:Well, d that now, see, and another thing that we're talking about is the LGBT. Well, you're right, that's this is what it is, but listen.
Speaker 3:So according to Strickland, these are the basic truths that he's basically saying. Okay, are being Gone away from. According to Strickland, those basic basic truths bait. I can't say that. Basic truths include that Christ established only the Catholic Church. Okay, one little problem Jesus.
Speaker 2:Was a Jew. You shut your mouth. Shut your dirty mouth. No, he was not filthy, filthy man.
Speaker 3:Second one, that it is sacrilege for anyone to unworthily Receive communion.
Speaker 2:I got a problem with that one. How do you know if?
Speaker 3:you're unworthy of that if you have a sin on you.
Speaker 2:How do you know if you have a sin?
Speaker 3:If you're gay, if you've committed any sins between last Saturday's confession and this Sunday's Church service, you haven't been absolved by a priest. You are not allowed to receive communion. Now, really, what they mean is if you're gay. And if you're dirty. I remember I was told not to go to communion. I don't buy a priest ones. Why? Because I wasn't a good Catholic.
Speaker 2:So he said I don't want you to know you're not a good Catholic, because I basically left the church already.
Speaker 3:He was a family friend, but anyway so well, wait a minute, wait here's another one, it gets worse, it goes. We're gonna go back. We'll go back. Hold on that. Marriage is between one man and one woman. Uh, your religion has something to say about that my ancestors, Okay.
Speaker 3:Abraham. How many wives? Oh Solomon had 900, or exactly that. Here's the next one that every human person is created in the image and likeness of God and shouldn't be supported in attempts to reject their biological identity. Fuck off Strickland. And then here we go. Next one that sexual activity outside of marriage is a grave sin. Uh, tell that to most of the priests. And then that belief that all men and women will be saved Regardless of how they lived their lives Wait, sorry, the basic truth includes that belief that all men and women will be saved regardless of how they live their lives is false and dangerous. Okay, well then, what was the point of Jesus dying? Because the whole point is that we're sinful.
Speaker 3:You watched away, your came here to wash our sins and make sure we go to heaven, which is why I have a problem with hell. But hold on before you talk and then we're gonna go talk that, in order to follow Jesus Christ, all must willingly choose to take up their cross. Now here's the fucking thing. What does that even mean? It basically means take up your cross, take up your burden, but don't act on it. Man, you know what? Okay. So now you can ask me some questions.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen, you've blown me away. Listen, first of all, when you go in a confession booth and you say bless me father, have sin, is that correct? Uh, yeah, okay, I've done this. I, if you tell them, that's you telling someone what you've done? Yeah, if I was Catholic, I wouldn't tell them shit. Well, see here, because I would be like bless me father, because you supposed to, I I'm here with you. I gave my money, I've done this. I haven't slept outside of my marriage, I've done this, so you ain't got shit on me.
Speaker 3:Well, see, and that's the problem, see, this is what pope francis is trying to say. He's trying to say look, look, because a lot, of, a lot of priests and I was told this too, that it wasn't good enough just to get absolved, like I come in and say forgive me, father, for I have sin Right by masturbated 16 times just in about the last half hour.
Speaker 2:How would you tell somebody?
Speaker 3:that? Well, because they brainwash you into thinking you're gonna go to hell. You don't have to worry about hell.
Speaker 2:And that's something, jesus, your boy, can do.
Speaker 3:No, you can't go straight to God. He's not powerful enough. You have to go through as mediator, the priest who was given the power by Peter. I know it sounds stupid but it's true.
Speaker 2:That's about Jesus. What is it? What is he there for?
Speaker 3:Well, we don't follow Jesus in the catholic church, we follow paul, as you pointed out.
Speaker 1:I did.
Speaker 3:The crazy man who decided that, uh, he saw the light. Now Jesus speaks through him and he's gonna sit in jail and write a bunch of letters, and he knows better than james, the brother of jesus, who tried to take control of the church and was, uh, ousted, basically.
Speaker 1:How many of you have?
Speaker 3:read the book of james? None of you, yeah, but you've heard. You've heard about the uh, apocrypha, the letter to the Corinthians and all that stuff. Yeah, um, yeah. No, the apocrypha is a different thing, right?
Speaker 2:That's a separate book with all the other things, but, but basically. I just wanted to get to the lgbt.
Speaker 3:Well, that's where I'm getting at plus and then women.
Speaker 2:What do you think about that?
Speaker 3:What do you think?
Speaker 3:about women In the, you know, in the priesthood in the priesthood, okay, well, first, let's start with this yes, they should be in the priesthood. Why? Because women are smarter, anyway. Two, they're more loving than men are anyway. And three, I know less women that would dittle an altar boy. Some of you would, though, and then here we go. There's also the problem with Okay, if you're an apiscopal priest and you're married because they can be married, right and you decide you want to be a priest, you can still be married, so you could be a married priest, you could convert Really, yeah, but if your wife dies now, you have to be celibate for the rest of your days for the rest of your days, but you can't marry if you start as a Catholic priest.
Speaker 3:What sense does that make? It doesn't even make any sense. It's just like this arbitrary rule there are a lot of arbitrary rules and Francis is not doing away with the old way. What he's saying is look, times are changing the church, do you change with the? Time yeah and the church is an ever changing evolving evolving where we learn more things right no more things.
Speaker 3:And Jesus Know his biggest. He, you know Jesus did say some strict things, but for the most part his message was Love one another. Okay, no matter what your differences are, you love. Turn your cheek, don't you know? Now everybody can come up with that one little verse. They'll be like well, jesus actually loves, so words, they'll have all this crazy stuff. No, that was the thing. Then here comes Paul. He comes up with crazy rules that gets stuck in a lot of books that didn't meet the criteria of Patriarchy of all this different things.
Speaker 3:You know they're like get rid of that book, we don't need it. By the way, that book you're reading at home, that's probably on your bedside table, that you read every night and you're not Catholic. Guess who put it together? Catholics? Do you know who modified it? Luther? Do you know what? Luther?
Speaker 2:was before he was talking about Martin Luther, martin Luther.
Speaker 1:Do you?
Speaker 3:know what he was before. He was a Lutheran.
Speaker 3:Catholic do you know why he chose to be a Lutheran? Because they, because he didn't like all the rules of being a Catholic. And then you know who got away from that? The church of England. They didn't like Lutheranism, they are Catholicism. So they came up with their own Bible and all of you were sitting at home. You think I'm crazy, and I am, but that's what this is. This is a message of love and unity, and Francis isn't even getting rid of all those rules. What he's just saying is look, we're changing. We need to be more inclusive, and this is the teaching of Jesus.
Speaker 2:We need to be more in line with this, but the Senate is not going to let him do that. Those his counsel is that's what.
Speaker 3:That's the whole issue. They don't like that. He also wants people.
Speaker 2:To vote on this. And when he says Francis, ladies and gentlemen, he's talking about the Pope.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm sorry, Pope Francis, and honestly I'm gonna say this I'm an ex-Catholic. I'm very against what the Catholic Church, to the chagrin of my family. They do not like it, you know, they're all Catholic and I'm like.
Speaker 3:David, here you are. You're going to hell, and I don't even believe in hell because I was bullshit made up by the Catholic Church. Jesus didn't believe in hell. That's for a different podcast. But the point is is that Francis is trying to bring this all together and you have these ultra conservative, catholic, biased Political yes priests here in the United States who now all of a sudden they don't believe in the vicar of Christ anymore. Now they believe in overthrow. They don't like it that the common man is being listened to by Francis and that Francis saying we need to all come together.
Speaker 2:So how do you turn someone way away from that religion that really wants to be a part of it. If I'm gay Lafama, a woman and you know, I grew up wanting to be a Catholic priest. And how do you turn them away and say, hey, you can't, because you're not worthy. You're not worthy now, francis isn't changing that.
Speaker 3:Man can only be priests. What he's saying is women can be a lot of other things, because, basically, saying like tradition keeps it men, blah, blah, blah. But we need to bring women in and they need to have a voice that's equal to a priest, because a priest isn't above anyone.
Speaker 2:They're here to serve well wait a minute D, so yeah, you can correct me if I'm wrong. I'll try. Weren't the apostles? Didn't they have?
Speaker 3:wives? Well, no one knows, but Jesus did say hey when him and Mary Magdalene hey, hey guys, uh, why don't you leave your wives and your stuff and come on with me on the boat, come on, let's go.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying they there was.
Speaker 1:Keep in mind, though, those were those were Jewish guys.
Speaker 2:Um. They were Jewish cats.
Speaker 3:They were Jewish cats. That's the thing. They're Jews. Jesus, his law. He didn't even come to change the law he didn't come to. He did want to do away with some of the old rules that were not, but he wasn't trying to start a new religion. He was just saying, hey guys, this religion's got not a hand with all these Pharisees and Sadducees and Sadducees and never mind the fact that Paul never met any of the Apostle.
Speaker 2:you never met those kinds Nope, if I'm not mistaken right.
Speaker 3:No, he never. You know, he never did. Now there is like a couple. I think there's a verse or two in the bible where Peter Uh praises Paul for some of his views. I don't know if all of them. Um, but James was the brother of Jesus.
Speaker 1:Some people argue about that.
Speaker 3:But it's kind of respected that he is the step brother of Jesus. Because Catholics don't like to think that Mary could ever have had sex. Hmm, nobody wants to think of their mom Ever of having sex. Here we go, here we go. It's not the point.
Speaker 3:The point is look, I'm not anti spirituality and I, growing up, you know, as Catholic and and I remember my mom would always Uh, we were not the Catholics. That said Jews were not the chosen people. My mom used to teach us that Jews were the chosen people because, you know, catholics are like everybody's going to help a Catholic. So I'm like what? Which is what some of these priests want to hold on to?
Speaker 1:by the way, these conservatives right, that's only the Catholic church.
Speaker 3:Only the Catholic church is the only true religion. What, what Well what about?
Speaker 2:well then, you're dissing.
Speaker 3:Well, that's the thing you're dissing your own Jesus christ religion. You believe Jesus was a rabbi. I do. You just don't think it was a messiah.
Speaker 2:I don't, yeah, rabbi. Hebrew means teacher.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, and he was a rabbi right and he cut his.
Speaker 2:his followers called him rabbi right, and it means you know, and we still call him that, or rob, or you know we have names for it. But yeah, he was one of us.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I mean Um, if Jesus is a Jew, why are we all fighting? Why don't we all just become Jews? We just came up with more rules that is very uh insightful. Well, I mean if you really want to follow Jesus.
Speaker 1:I hate that word.
Speaker 2:Christian.
Speaker 3:No, if you want to follow Jesus. I hate the word Christian because I haven't met one yet? Whoa, I haven't, I'm sorry. If you are a true Christian, okay, that means you follow Christ. You're Christ is Jesus.
Speaker 1:It means Christ like yeah he basically said right give no, no.
Speaker 2:When you follow Christ.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you, if you don't follow, well, you're, you're trying to achieve Christ like right, but the problem is is that I haven't met anybody who got rid of their possessions, who denounced being rich. I haven't met anybody who uh, what's another thing? Love their brother as themselves. I mean, every was a lot of people have these little qualities scattered in. But if you ever met anybody who, just like, got rid of their possessions and walked, you know, walk the streets and Listen, you know, denounced or paid their taxes in full without trying to cheat them, no that, that, no Uh yeah, but.
Speaker 2:I would have come in my old age. What I've come to, the conclusion that is it, whether it's Islam, catholicism, judaism, buddhism, is all the same guilt. It's all different religion, same guilt.
Speaker 3:But see it's not Buddhism. Doesn't have guilt. Yeah, and honestly, I don't think that Jesus had much guilt. Jesus was telling you how to do things. But here's the thing, this is why you, you touched on the beginning and then we'll move on to a different thing. Yeah, but Paul the man, he basically said like yeah, you know, you just got to have faith, got a faith and that's the greatest thing you can get to heaven and blah, blah, blah, blah and James is saying, uh-uh, you got to have good works.
Speaker 3:It's not enough just to have faith. You have to have the good works that show you have the faith. Because what are what is faith without the good works? Right, you have to show that you love your brother as yourself. You can't just say, yeah, I do that, and then you know, strike your brother, but Paul also says I'm very famously to you, didn't? What is?
Speaker 2:that shut up, bitch.
Speaker 1:Could you imagine if a guy's riding down the road?
Speaker 3:on a motorcycle. Right Nowadays he's riding down the road on a motorcycle. The sun blinds him in the eyes. He swears that he sees the you know cuz everybody's not so awesome, that's not off his motorcycle.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's his head.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's an asshole. They throw him in jail. He starts writing letters. He's like I know the way. Yeah, follow me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gaze a bad women are stupid, he never.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he said that there are a couple of her. You know, leviticus has got those those lines about not laying with a man. It's an abomination, or whatever. He does have a couple of anti-gay.
Speaker 2:You're talking about my territory down wait with that. Okay. Well, there are also a lot of prohibitions in the Leviticus that.
Speaker 3:Right next to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it also said don't eat shrimp. It said don't have a tattoo, right, we shouldn't carve or cut what's the one that says you're just stone a woman.
Speaker 3:Stone a woman for something Right infidelity. So in other words, we kind of grew up and we realized If you cook the shrimp, we can eat it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know you shouldn't eat pork. Pork is good.
Speaker 3:You shouldn't eat pork until you cook it all the way through. But see, god didn't know how to give you a cooking thermometer, so he said just stay away from the point, you know, and then people are under the false concept that there were 10 commandments, and they're not.
Speaker 2:I'm the Hebrew, the Jew is here, there's tonight, to tell you there were. There were 613 commandments 613 command because anytime Hashem Said do this, that was considered a commandment.
Speaker 3:So is it 10, just because that's all I could fit on the two stone tablets to get it down.
Speaker 2:Well, that was the most popular because Charleston Heston said that there were 10 on the tablet. Yeah, but there was never just 10 man. When Moses went up to the mountain to get the laws, he came down. I guarantee you, with more than 10, you know we had over 600,000 people, my people wondering in the desert.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then he sees them all with idols. You think 10 commandments, you know he didn't even he did. He was more max. They were so damn heavy. He's like getting all the way down there with idols. He's like damn I've been carrying this all the way down.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, he didn't go down because he wanted to. He was sent down because we were down there, we were cutting up. We, my people, we were out there, we were making idols and calves and we were having orgies.
Speaker 3:It sounds like a good time. It was, you know. Here's the thing those people got to the promised land, or at least our kids.
Speaker 2:Not all of them, because you know I should have said amen, you need to get down.
Speaker 3:You'll your people cutting up down and you the civvies you know but then, then almost as had to do is say, must we bring you some water, or whatever he says, and Stabs the ground with his staff oh, hit the rock and he doesn't.
Speaker 2:He doesn't go to the promised land, he doesn't. That was messed up. But then let me tell you what happened to us, because we know this story you heard it here first from. Gc you better believe it and we were part and have a good time part in and bullshit.
Speaker 3:Bullshit, was all hairy, leged women back, then they cut it. Yeah, oh yeah, razor's that too.
Speaker 2:Okay, keep going and then you know, and then Hashem got upset. He opened up the ground and swallowed them whole wait what?
Speaker 3:yes, I don't remember that part of the story.
Speaker 2:Yes, he swallied. He's like a look, you doing this, you got a idol, you got a calf, you was dancing, my god is mean man, he's not my my god that I grew up with was like hey, you know what?
Speaker 3:we're gonna get rid of all those 613 rules and I'm gonna give you two Love God before everything.
Speaker 2:And love your heart, minds.
Speaker 3:That's, that's yeah, but so maybe that's why we needed Jesus. He was like guys this is way too complicated and we don't have enough stone.
Speaker 2:I wish we would have had him then, when he swallowed us whole wide. I do too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't know I. Why do I not know that?
Speaker 1:part.
Speaker 2:And what move try on the house to that jackass movie, to commandments.
Speaker 3:I have it on good authority that Moses looked exactly like child.
Speaker 2:Yes, I bet he did and in Jesus look like Kurt Cobain right actually look a lot like me imagine he was a blonde wig.
Speaker 3:Really you got a cute little button, nose and blue eyes.
Speaker 2:I don't think Jesus like a little us, would you say. I look like I don't think Jesus, like a session drummer.
Speaker 3:Well you, I thought you're saying he didn't look like me, so where were we? The people got swallowed hole yes, having a party. And now look where we are. Yeah, look at what and you know what happened when your people got to the promised land, couldn't hold on to it. Couldn't hold on to it.
Speaker 2:We don't know no.
Speaker 3:Oh, where's the promise land?
Speaker 2:because we pissed them off.
Speaker 3:First thing we did was we got yo.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna get this tattoo dog.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna get this, you know.
Speaker 3:I wanted to desert for 40 generation. People All right chosen to do it. I have no idea.
Speaker 2:Oh so, yeah, we went over there. We start eating, eating things that we weren't supposed to eat pork.
Speaker 1:Not only we.
Speaker 3:I do not. Is that because we're on there? No, what do you really think about bacon? You like bacon? I do not? Come on say it. Come on say I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:I didn't you know? We were eating ham sandwiches and things like that Wait who do you ate a ham sandwich? I didn't eat what I'm talking about. When we got to, came your people. Yeah, come on now. I'm did all these works. I open up a little river for you and you walk through and I kill all these egyptians.
Speaker 3:So what you're saying is your people are messed up, and so am I.
Speaker 2:You know, david, everyone is a little messed up and I think people need something To make them feel better about the world we live in well, the Senate, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Pope Francis is I. I would say if Pope Francis would have been around when I was a boy. And then the way I was raised with his thought processes. Yeah, it's less likely that I'm where I am today because All the rules and the damn nation and the stupid stories about hell and man this is I mean seriously.
Speaker 2:That would give me nightmares if I was a kid.
Speaker 3:You have no idea you have no idea, man. I don't even talk about it to people all the time.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you a question, seriously, given those stories and and you're a kid, mm-hmm so how were you when you first touched your peepee?
Speaker 3:Man, my mom might be listening. I'm not talking about my peepee down here, but let me tell you this so it's immortal, it's still immortal sin to touch your peepee. And let me tell you what happens the first time a good catholic boy touches his peepee. It's on instinct, man. It was just one day there it was and I was like what's the? What is that?
Speaker 1:I can't.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna tell this to everybody only one shake, no it might have been.
Speaker 3:it might have been two shakes quick, it might have been a half squeeze, because I was just like what is that?
Speaker 1:No. I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 2:Well, what are you talking about? So you know, they say, if you're using the bathroom and you shake it more than no, this thing was like the thing that wakes you up.
Speaker 3:This woke you. This woke me up. I was we're talking about when I'm a kid, right, I wake up one day and there he is. He's like woke up before I did okay. And uh, oh, you accidentally touch it and you're like, hmm, what is that?
Speaker 2:Okay so what, what?
Speaker 3:Well, what I'm saying is hold on one, because you asked me a question. Let me finish it. So, yeah, you, you touch it. Something happens biologically that you didn't anticipate, and you know what my first thought was Am I going to hell? What? What just happened? Oh, I didn't even know what happened at first. Right, right. And then you find out you're going to hell and it's uh. They taught even throughout high school as a good Catholic kid.
Speaker 3:We had a priest friend and it's you're going to hell all. And it's funny how much Catholics Hone in on sexual sins. They don't talk about Shouldn't lie as much as they talk about shouldn't masturbate. They don't talk about shouldn't Steal as much as they talk about shouldn't have sex.
Speaker 1:They don't talk about shouldn't have.
Speaker 3:Look, if you're uh, if you're a really nice person you listen to this. Don't think I'm a bad guy because I'm saying this stuff. This is getting out some angst.
Speaker 1:Hey, look, uh but I'm team, I'm team Francis.
Speaker 3:By the way, I'm tpo.
Speaker 2:I'm well. I'm glad I thought I had that asher there, but I wasn't expecting all that, because you hit a nerve, finding I think I did.
Speaker 3:Uh, you know, hey, that's why we're here because I am about to be clear with the listeners. I'm about love, I'm about unity, I'm about we all are in this experience of life together. We're coming at different angles, but in the end there is no Gary is. I'm not editing that out.
Speaker 2:You have your name on the damn thing.
Speaker 3:I didn't think I'd do it A black Jew Mm from the Bronx With a little bit of an attitude. I am a white ex-catholic who works in a dungeon and rubs ass all day and look at us. We We've been friends for a long, long time now 10 years?
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least 10 years.
Speaker 3:Over 10. We talk about shit that we argue about all the time. Yes, we ever come to blows.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:Maybe one time you were mad enough to hit me, but we smooth that over in the elevator right. That's another day. I don't even really remember that that well. But the point is is that that could be almost anybody in this world, no matter what your, your beliefs are. But the promise. Ideology took over rationality. Love is the only answer.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's really profound that you said that. Well, it's true. No, I'm, and I'm not being facetious, I'm serious. No it's really, and I wish a lot of people had that attitude um Kevin.
Speaker 3:McCarthy, kevin, oh Kevin, oh Kev, what his name had to be Kevin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and from California too. You know what I mean, kev from Cal, you know so. But yeah, thank you for that. I you know. I saw the article and I was thinking to myself I wonder what my dude Would think about this, you know, I didn't even know about it until you sent it to me.
Speaker 3:And I know there's been a lot of division in the Catholic Church lately, just like there was in the Episcopal church over this, there was in the Methodist church. It all comes down to the gaze really in the end. But, now they've thrown in women with it.
Speaker 3:You know they don't want women to have anything and oh, all these people were going to hell. You heard it here first. People actually didn't. It's been other places, you just weren't listening. There is no hell. Gary knew it long before I did, because Gary's a Jew, right, I should have been a Jew, you can. You know what I love? Cheeseburger I love cheeseburgers.
Speaker 2:Oh, you can have a cheese.
Speaker 3:I'm.
Speaker 2:I'm what you would call a reform Jew.
Speaker 3:So you don't like bacon, but you do eat pork.
Speaker 2:I do not eat pork. Do you shrimp? I do not eat shrimp. Do you cheeseburgers? I do not eat cheeseburgers.
Speaker 3:So you're basically a good.
Speaker 2:Jew? I am not. I wouldn't go that far, I'm okay, I'm all right, but I wouldn't, you know. Uh, my dietary Reason is not just because I'm Jewish, it's because of health, well, and that's why I gave these rules.
Speaker 3:It was all health reasons. As we learn more in science, we find out a lot of these dietary restrictions for the for.
Speaker 1:Jewish people in the jade cost root law.
Speaker 3:I can't. I was about to say the Jews.
Speaker 1:The Jews are awesome.
Speaker 3:The Jews have a great diet. I have the makers diet you know it's based on. I have the book somewhere behind me Now. It is some bulls. It's the best sellers, called the makers diet and it's basically like hey, the bible tells you to do this you should do. I'll show it to you one day. Okay, doesn't matter, I'm not plugging the book. So that's what I think, and maybe another day we talk about this again and I go off.
Speaker 2:I'm glad, brother, I'm glad I want it. I wanted your opinion on this and it was important me to hear it because I'm gonna get burned for some of this man.
Speaker 3:No, you're going to hear dog? There's no hell, I'm gonna hang out with you and show.
Speaker 1:We're just gonna be peace and out and bliss Until, until them, until the mosaic.
Speaker 2:Yeah and again.
Speaker 3:I love Jesus. By the way, there you go.
Speaker 2:No problem with Jesus, if, if, if you. You got that, you're all right, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, what a friend we have in Jesus.
Speaker 2:There, you go.
Speaker 3:What's that? What's it? No, I'm. I was trying to think of a band song Jesus.
Speaker 2:Jesus All right. Yeah, jesus, the doobies yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sorry, I went blank there for a second Okay.
Speaker 1:So now.
Speaker 3:I got. Now that we're done bashing the catholic church, write all your emails to gc. Not me all right. Next topic uh, part one of topic three two pox Shakur.
Speaker 2:Listen, uh, that cat was probably one of the best Rappers, or poets I don't like to call them rappers Um, they do. Yeah, it's just little dated that that that Tupac Shakur was a poet. Okay, just like Jay Z is a poet.
Speaker 2:Um you know I can go on and on Q tip child called quest. So those those, those dudes, were poets, yeah, and they meant a lot to me and people my age, you know, because you and I know people going to be like what the hell is GC talking about? If you, when you read poetry, you know this is my simple mind. When I read poetry, if it don't rhyme, you just talking Shakespeare. Shakespeare is not poetry. That's not poetry to me.
Speaker 2:How cool, is it not poetry? I mean, it has to rhyme, okay, and they did that better than a lot of biggie, did that a lot better than a lot of people. So when Tupac Shakur was killed not assassinated, but killed, yeah, uh, it was a it was a great loss in the music industry. And to me Now, why'd you say why'd you say killed and not assassinated?
Speaker 3:Well he wasn't assassinated, but wasn't he? No, they hunted him out. It was retribution. But they took him down, they waited, they found him, they shot him, that brother just like a bunch of brothers in the hood. What's the difference? You murdered an assassination.
Speaker 2:Assassination is when you, john F Kennedy, was assassinated Right.
Speaker 3:Bobby could also say he was murdered. But you could say they were murdered.
Speaker 2:Malcolm X was assassinated and murdered and killed. Yeah, that's when you plot, you put together a plan.
Speaker 3:You ever been to Dealey Plans? Did they not plot to kill Tupac?
Speaker 2:Did I say that right?
Speaker 3:Tupac, tupac.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did, they did they.
Speaker 3:So were you East Coast or West Coast Me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, east Coast baby, all the way. Yeah, yeah, the music is better. Yeah, and please don't assassinate me, I just, you know, I thought the music was better. You know it was more original, we started it, I mean we started rapping in the 80s in the Bronx. Yeah, so in the 70s, late 70s, brother. So when those murders of Biggie and Tupac happened right behind each other, it was a great loss for a lot of people. So finding out who shot this brother was like what.
Speaker 1:Yeah the guy admitted himself. He admitted it. What was his name again.
Speaker 3:It's right over.
Speaker 2:I got it somewhere Something like Dirty D or something like that. You know some ridiculous name like that. But he admitted it.
Speaker 3:He's the last living suspect. This is from the AP News. Last living suspect in 1996, dry by shooting of Tupac Shakur, indicted in Las Vegas on murder charge. Yes, and his name is Dwayne Keffidi. How do you say that, keffidi? Yeah something like that man, I'm so white. Dwayne Keffidi Davis. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So he admitted it in a tell all memoir in 2019 Compton Street Legend. Yes, yes, that he provided the gun used in the dry by shooting.
Speaker 1:He was all about his cousin. What?
Speaker 3:His cousin got beat up and then they go out to take out OK let's back up.
Speaker 2:His cousin got beat up in Las Vegas when they went to the Mike Tyson fight. Right, yeah, it was Shug, it was Tupac and his entourage yeah, they all got together. He's like oh, that's that over there.
Speaker 1:So they went looking for them.
Speaker 2:They went looking for. You see on a video surveillance camera you know Tupac walking around looking for. They need ghetto. Kick this dude. I mean they jumped on them. Should you know that was his nephew or something like that?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he said well, I'm going to get Tupac when I see him. Ok, when they were leaving Las Vegas right, they were leaving a fight, they were getting gas or getting something to eat, and lo and behold, guess who comes around, who should get to talk. He said that's right, there, you have it. Then they couldn't find them, though, but yeah, they couldn't find them before them, before they already looked, they look, and then they see him come and then they see him come around, just by coincidence.
Speaker 3:So you're saying that's not assassination, since that's not, but that's not in it. They knew what they're going to do.
Speaker 2:This is what the assassination, in my opinion, means. Ok, when you sit there, you get generals together and say listen so it has to be political. Oh no, not necessarily Check it out Like.
Speaker 3:East Coast, West Coast.
Speaker 2:Well, that that was more about money.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And I'll explain that later on, which is politics.
Speaker 3:But I keep going.
Speaker 2:So if these generals get together say, look, we're going, when in the South, where Dallas?
Speaker 3:I can come up with a plan. Ok, so this is just murder, because it wasn't by a general Gotcha.
Speaker 2:You know I'm just talking about. Well, I'm saying is this is quite a disproportionate retaliation.
Speaker 3:This is not. They beat one guy up, then they got to kill him. It's always like but that's the rules of the street, but it's your people, man.
Speaker 2:My people.
Speaker 3:I love how I can say it. Ok here's the last thing you say your people with Jews and you say don't say the Jews, OK, that's all right, there's a lot of rules for this little white over here and then I say you know people, and it's just like my people.
Speaker 2:What are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3:You were sitting. These are your guys, man.
Speaker 2:So I mean I, know you're not a rapper, right, I was talking about rappers, I was not talking about black people. Well, and here's the thing.
Speaker 3:But I've heard you rap it's good?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so, will you?
Speaker 3:hear me rap. Well, in the last show we were kind of beatboxing a little bit to the, to the final outro, to the outro. We start beatboxing a little bit.
Speaker 2:That's not rap, but I mean I felt that rhythm. Oh, I'm glad. Thank you, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3:Very excited that you said this is yeah, we got to wrap this up by the way Right, Keep going.
Speaker 2:Oh no, go ahead, the moment's gone.
Speaker 3:No it's not. Keep it going. Nothing has to end.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just glad they got closure, and I would like to see some closure with Biggie as well.
Speaker 3:Well, here's your closure.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about what that's to pop.
Speaker 3:Right, right, right. Well, this is oh, you're right. Did they never solve Biggie's? No, ok, so well, they probably will after this. But the Graham jury also voted to add a sentencing enhancement to the murder charge for gang activity that could add up to 20 additional years of convicted. So in other words, if he gets convicted, he's going away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Bye, bye. In other words, here's the thing, here's the lesson. Kids, you kill someone or a scientist, an eight them either way. Don't write a damn book about it. Oj, this is how.
Speaker 2:This is how. This is how it was done. I knew you were going to go there. I knew it.
Speaker 3:Well, come on. There's always OJ, oj.
Speaker 2:OJ. He wrote a book. Oj did it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did do it. Wait, did it. Oh, come on man. Even Dave Chappelle says. I don't care what Dave Chappelle says. Come on, you knew it. Everybody knew it. He was spreading his fingers, that glove Do not. Do not tell me, you're one of those. If it don't fit it, you got to quit it. I said that wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you did.
Speaker 3:There is no way you're that person. What? Don't you say it? Don't you say he was. Don't you say it. Thinking of Cole, thinking of Cole, think of Ron.
Speaker 2:Oh that, oh, come on, you're going to tell me he didn't do it. You're going to say it with somebody else I am not going to say it. You want me to say it? The bloody glove OJ did it.
Speaker 3:No, I won't. Why would that make you crazy?
Speaker 2:I didn't say it. I didn't say it.
Speaker 3:Well, you're trying to say like I'm acting like I'm the crazy one for saying OJ did it. More than half the country thinks OJ did it. Oj thinks he did it, thank God. More than that, dave Chappelle thinks he did it. He probably did that shit. He probably did that shit. All right. So here's the next news. This is the big one you've all been waiting for. Oh my God, taylor and Travis Kelsey, do we care, and why?
Speaker 2:Well, let's start off. We really have to be really careful here.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:Because, OK, Taylor's the biggest thing in the world. Oh man, oh yeah I can make fun.
Speaker 1:Do you want Swithy's on you?
Speaker 3:I can make fun of black people. I can make fun of the Jews. No, I have to say Jews. So I can make fun of Jews. I'm can't everybody look? I love black people, I love Judaism and its people, but you cannot make fun of the Swift.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:Beyonce. Oh, I love Beyonce, or Beyonce. I only like one song hers, but I love her so much. Beyonce, what Do you really? Oh single ladies. Oh, mariah Carey, I'm on Kanye's side, you know.
Speaker 2:Mariah Carey is off off limits. Those three are off limits.
Speaker 3:You can't, mariah. Mariah is a pariah. She's gone. She can't even sing anymore, too much weed. So but let's talk about Swithy and Kelsey.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 3:Because I know you love NFL football.
Speaker 2:I do and you love some T-Swift. Dude, you know you would go to a concert right now If I gave you a free ticket to a Taylor Swift concert.
Speaker 3:I said, gary, I paid for these. Will you go? You're going to say no to T-Swift concert.
Speaker 2:I'm going, I want you to hear me, and hear me well.
Speaker 3:I had to turn on my mic, in case I started laughing.
Speaker 2:If Taylor Swift was in concert across the street, you couldn't pay me to go see it.
Speaker 3:Oh my, gosh, I'd have a bag of chips in the binoculars. Are you joking? I am not joking.
Speaker 2:Come on man.
Speaker 3:Listen, she's got some nice outfits. Listen, well, they're kind of shiny.
Speaker 2:And here's the thing. I want people to understand this. See, david, just set my ass up. I want people to understand this when I say that when Taylor Swift Swift write her music, she does not have GC in mind. I am. She's not writing music for me. Do I think she's talented? Yes, do I think she can sing? Hell, yeah, would I go to a concert? Hell, no, why not? Because that's her music, doesn't interest me Biggest concert ever.
Speaker 3:I'm sure it is, I don't know that it is I like.
Speaker 2:YouTube, but you won't see me go in there, boy, I want to go see it Off topic.
Speaker 3:we're coming right back.
Speaker 2:We are.
Speaker 3:We're going to talk about something that they got in Vegas. You two.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll talk about it next time.
Speaker 3:That is one of the most spectacular little videos they showed. Somebody was recording it from inside the sphere. Oh, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:If you are listening right now, look it up later. Youtube sphere the group.
Speaker 1:It's like a 360.
Speaker 3:They're basically in a ball that can project everything. So anyway, back to Swift and Travis Kelsey. I, but she has the Swift effect. What? You were telling me before we started this show.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Why should we care? And here's why. Okay, because one, we're horrors for celebrity news and we care because we can and because it's selling tickets and it's selling jerseys. And I cannot wait for the Travis Kelsey song that she writes in a year on that album. After he sleeps with it, oh yeah, when she tears him apart. And then all of a sudden all his jersey sales go down.
Speaker 2:You know they went up. And David, listen to this. I want you to hear me when I say this. I will hear you His jersey sales went up 400% because this girl was sitting up in the booth watching the game 400%.
Speaker 3:So all we need is Taylor Swift to kind of almost maybe date one of us and we can have 400% more listeners.
Speaker 2:You know what? Taylor Swift wouldn't pee on me if my teeth were on fire.
Speaker 3:No, she wouldn't actually. No, she doesn't know your life.
Speaker 2:She doesn't and she doesn't care, and no, she should no.
Speaker 3:But I say she's talented. I say Travis Kelsey one of the best tight ends Do.
Speaker 2:I care that they're dating. No, do you not? No, do you think it's a publicity?
Speaker 3:stunt? No, I don't. I think that it could be. It would make sense if it was, but it could also be they just met through a friend. Celebrities like to date celebrities. She's been with so many different types of guys. Now I will say this Carmen, my girlfriend, not my partner. She's my boo, my love, my bunny. She does think it's a setup. She thinks it is about ticket sales and jerseys.
Speaker 3:And you know because everything's got that in mind. But I don't think Taylor Swift is that type. I think she just goes after what she likes the shiny thing.
Speaker 2:And she's going to get material later, If you know her stance. I think she is, and I think you know and here's something you probably don't know about Travis Kelsey oh, I probably do. Travis Kelsey likes sisters.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I didn't know that. His ex-girlfriend Right, who are trashing him, by the way.
Speaker 2:I don't think they did. Oh yeah, she's like hey.
Speaker 3:Taylor, watch out, watch out for the cheetah yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean, you know, you're going from those sisters to you know a girl who was once a country music star. That's a big. I don't know she was once, that's a big gap there.
Speaker 3:That's funny saying once was a country music star.
Speaker 2:She was yeah.
Speaker 3:But is that how she's known? Now, I don't, I don't. I will say this I do not own an album, I do not go to listen to her all the time. But I will say that, yes, ok. Sometimes I find myself hearing a groovy tune on the radio and I'm like, well, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2:Do you know her when?
Speaker 3:you hear Sometimes, yeah, ok, but sometimes I haven't when something news come on and I'm like, well, that's some new music. I'm like that old man driving down the road. You know, I like all my old stuff and then all of a sudden some of you comes on. Oh yeah, Well, there's a song that I can get into, what's that? And then, like that was the latest from Taylor Swift, I'm like ah, swifty, you got me again.
Speaker 2:You know, Aaron Rodgers is a Swifty.
Speaker 3:We're all Swifties at heart. Because even you, I say she doesn't write for you. She doesn't. The black Jew.
Speaker 2:She. I don't think that has anything to do with it, but I'm saying it.
Speaker 1:When she sits down. Listen to this.
Speaker 2:When she sits down and pen her shit. Yeah, it has nothing to do with what you see.
Speaker 3:It has a lot to do with it has a lot to do with Jake Gyllenhaal. It has a lot to do with Jake Gyllenhaal. Yeah, she used to date him. She wrote a song about him and John Mayer you know, that's what has to do with it.
Speaker 3:It has to do with tick sales, but she's got a lot of angst. Man, she needs to learn to love. She dated John Mayer. Yeah, that was a big one for a while. I think, look, I don't want you people listening. Think that I keep up with Taylor Swift. I don't.
Speaker 2:But I do know Everything you do.
Speaker 3:Well, I know she's the hottest thing in the world after this tour, the new era. What does it call the era's tour era? I have no idea what. Stop acting ignorant like you don't know, I don't know, I know, you know.
Speaker 2:Only reason I know, I know.
Speaker 1:I know who Taylor Swift is.
Speaker 3:By the way, listeners, it ain't me who wanted to talk about this.
Speaker 2:The reason why I wanted to talk about this, because they made such a big deal on that ESPN.
Speaker 3:Oh well, now it's OK to talk about you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:No, but they're right. Yeah, and the analysts were saying is this the real deal?
Speaker 3:I don't think it's the real deal Like will they be dating in a year? Right.
Speaker 1:Probably not.
Speaker 3:But right now the real deal is she's going to the show, she's going to the games, she's obviously going there for a reason. She obviously went to a private restaurant for a reason and she saw oh for you, they don't know she is. Apparently they went to a restaurant. They had to clear it out.
Speaker 2:So, travis and her could have a private dinner. I want to ask you a question. We're going to wrap this up, but I want to ask you a question. Yeah, talk to me, goose. All right, if do you think when Kanye West did to her what he did at MTV Awards? Yeah do you think that catapulted her career?
Speaker 3:I'm seriously, I'm asking I don't, I don't know that it catapulted her career as much as it hurt.
Speaker 2:You think it hurt his career she?
Speaker 3:already had the fans. He lost the respect of people who probably weren't already his fans, right Like if you're just a person on the fence that liked a few of his tunes right. That was the beginning of the crazy Kanye Okay.
Speaker 1:I mean, he was already a little crazy before, but this is when he was doing his nose dive. Okay.
Speaker 3:I think the first crazy thing was that that George Bush hates black people live on TV after.
Speaker 2:Mike.
Speaker 3:That was some crazy shit, man. I was watching that live. I was, we all were right, because we're all worried about Katrina. But then all of a sudden everybody's like wait, wait, what did he say? And you see how Mike looked to him.
Speaker 2:He's like very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:He looked like me, he's like well everybody.
Speaker 3:He's like somebody just farted or something. Well, come on. You know that there's a teleprompter telling him what to say.
Speaker 1:And Mike Myers is like wait a second, I didn't read that?
Speaker 2:Where is that?
Speaker 3:Oh, so he became unhinged. And then all of a sudden this Taylor Swift thing, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, come on, do you think that made people like, oh, why did he do that girl that way?
Speaker 1:Yes, because of Beyonce.
Speaker 2:Yes, and that made her more.
Speaker 3:I don't know that it made her more likeable. I know it made him less likeable because there are a lot of people like me who thought, OK, he's a crazy bastard, but he is kind of right. I mean, I really love that single ladies video. That did deserve video music award. It was the best video of the year.
Speaker 2:That was really shit, man Really the that was hot as shit.
Speaker 3:That is one of the greatest videos of all time, so I agreed with him, but at the same time it's like let it go. Even Beyonce is in the audience like dude, don't bring me into this shit. It's like I got my millions. I don't need this. Ok, it's a piece of it's a little piece of metal. I don't give a shit. I'm here for the publicity and the gift bag and he had to make it all weird, so I don't know if it helped her, but I know that it.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to get you in Sure.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, it probably put her on the map for you, but you still haven't bought an album, so it didn't help her, and neither have you. No, but I do shake my groove thing in the car when I hear songs come on, but only if I know why. I don't know I do it anyway. I was going to say if I didn't know it was her. That's when I shake it, but I don't shake it even when I hear it. She's got a couple of good ones. Come on, david.
Speaker 2:Do you know what? I've never broken up with the man in my life? This child, I still get into those songs. Name one song this child has written.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I can tell you. Carmen, just told me the names.
Speaker 1:I don't know that I can say Are you going to bring Carmen in.
Speaker 3:Well, because she told me the name of a song and I was like, oh, that's what the name is.
Speaker 2:But if she had to say anything, would you be able to? Oh, man, I could hum it and you and try to make people think, oh wow, I'm sort of a swift and I'm not a swift, and you don't know that and you don't know what to say you don't, don't, you put that, don't you put that shit in my mouth. That's what she said.
Speaker 3:Who said that she Don't put that. Anyway, apparently Nice, nice, that was nice, actually Nice. So, everybody, we're going to wrap up with that.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Gary's got to get home and put the gold bond medicated on his taint Because we've been sitting in this uncomfortable chair, but yeah, please sponsor the show. If you like what you hear, I'll try and shorten it in editing because I know this is a little bit long, but always feel free to Don't you cut out the good shit, ok, whatever the good shit is whenever I'm talking.
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Speaker 2:We love you to death.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, ham sandwich.