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Chappelle's Controversy, Top Gun Maverick review?, and Teddy Bear Lovin'

October 31, 2023 Garry Wadell and David Joy Season 1 Episode 8
Chappelle's Controversy, Top Gun Maverick review?, and Teddy Bear Lovin'
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Chappelle's Controversy, Top Gun Maverick review?, and Teddy Bear Lovin'
Oct 31, 2023 Season 1 Episode 8
Garry Wadell and David Joy

Ever wonder why comedy is often the lightning rod for controversy? It's time to strap in as we take a wild ride through the realm of stand-up comedy, exploring its influence on societal issues, starting with none other than Dave Chappelle. In our latest conversation, we dissect his recent gig in Boston, where his take on Israel and Palestine, like transgender issues, has stirred up a whirlwind of reactions. 

We examine the ethics of comedy and responsibility, discussing the impact of figures like Chappelle and Hassan Minhaj on these conversations. Somehow we manage to get a brief Top Gun:Maverick review in there. 

As we wind down this escapade, we visit the story of Theodore "Teddy" Morgavan from Arkansas and his love for stuffed animals. Our gratitude to you, our listeners, is immeasurable. So here's your cue to grab that cup of coffee and embark on this comedic yet enlightening journey with us!

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Ever wonder why comedy is often the lightning rod for controversy? It's time to strap in as we take a wild ride through the realm of stand-up comedy, exploring its influence on societal issues, starting with none other than Dave Chappelle. In our latest conversation, we dissect his recent gig in Boston, where his take on Israel and Palestine, like transgender issues, has stirred up a whirlwind of reactions. 

We examine the ethics of comedy and responsibility, discussing the impact of figures like Chappelle and Hassan Minhaj on these conversations. Somehow we manage to get a brief Top Gun:Maverick review in there. 

As we wind down this escapade, we visit the story of Theodore "Teddy" Morgavan from Arkansas and his love for stuffed animals. Our gratitude to you, our listeners, is immeasurable. So here's your cue to grab that cup of coffee and embark on this comedic yet enlightening journey with us!

Support the Show.

David:

record. Yeah, what's up? It's about GD time. My man, my man.

GC:

What's happening, brother?

David:

living the dream I know you always are. It is October. What is it stay before that Halloween?

GC:

30th.

David:

October 30th. Yes, that's crazy. Hopefully you'll be listening to this on Halloween. Happy Halloween.

GC:

Oh, same to you. You were one of my fave. Love Halloween. That is your favorite.

David:

Yes, what do you dress up? Like, no, seriously like, when you dress up, what do you, what do you do?

GC:

I just come as I am. I'm an asshole. I'll go everywhere. I dress up 365.

David:

You just pucker your lips.

GC:

I just do. I'm an asshole.

David:

Yeah.

GC:

Yeah, everybody lives in. What do you dress up as?

David:

I used to like to be a pirate and. I bet you did. But pirate and Whoa, what's wrong with that? No, as a kid I was. I was incredible. I was a pirate.

GC:

Yeah.

David:

I did family opera poorly one year.

GC:

Phantom of the opera when you were a kid.

David:

No, I was in college. Oh, I was gonna. I can't remember the last thing I was man. I mean for real, I can't remember the last thing I was. I've been thinking here.

GC:

Oh, it's been going crazy.

David:

Oh well, anyway, everybody out there, happy Halloween. Yep, happy Halloween. So we got some stuff to talk about, but I gotta go back to the last episode really quickly, oh my god, because if you were a, listener and you were staying until the end.

David:

Mr GC had a nice little story about a phenomenon that was storm in the country of Feral cats. Yes, and I kept saying bullshit, right, there are no feral cats out there. So we talked about it, saying, david, this is a problem. Dave, my son-in-law had to go to the hospital, so I got online and I started looking.

GC:

No, I am no, yeah, I looked up.

David:

I didn't find him there's no, no, no, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I looked it up. There is no epidemic of feral cats across the country.

GC:

Listen f and liar. Listen, I am not. I am telling you what to do if you run across a feral cat.

David:

I Think you said, david, there's a problem out there. They're running around trying to Come on.

GC:

It was. I mean, you know, the cat jumped over the fence and attacked them.

David:

Come on now.

GC:

How many times that happened.

David:

All right, well, let me tell you how many times that happened. The only the most recent story I could find okay of a feral cat attack. Mm-hmm was down in.

GC:

Florida in May of 2022 they.

David:

It attacked two people. Hmm and no one even got a description of the cat.

GC:

You got attacked by a cat.

David:

You don't even know what it looked like, it's just a Get you yeah, you know. I mean that's. Who even knows if that's really a cat? A but they went out and they were looking for it and they're warning people and Blah, blah, blah but that's what.

GC:

What are we doing here then?

David:

That's what I'm talking about now you were making it sound like everybody Needs to worry about the feral.

GC:

I am telling you, guys, you listening out there. I am telling you watch out. If you see a stray cat, stay away from the damn thing, because they will attack you. Because that's what they do. I mean, they are hungry, you know, they're over sexed and they are looking.

David:

No, no, okay, I know that is. You are spreading misinformation.

GC:

Okay, what you think of a feral cat fair? I'm trying, I'm upsetting the cat, yeah.

David:

What if somebody? The cat contingent. Oh, I just messed up your audio. The cat contingent. I know I'm telling you that people might start getting their BB gun and 22s and trying to kill a cat.

GC:

Oh they won't do that.

David:

So anyway, that was a very nice that dumb shit, that dumb shit. Yeah, oh yeah, please stay around for that dumb shit. It's GC's new segment that we're introducing Because of the feral cats and rapper spit. It just seems like it fits. So, alright, I want to lead off today. Let's talk about comedy, okay, and how it affects our society. Okay, so Dave Chappelle, talk about comedy.

GC:

The sage the king.

David:

Yeah, I sent you that article right when he was in Boston. Looks like he's testing his new material. Okay, and Wait. He apparently started saying about three quarters of the way through the the, the set. Mm-hmm, did you call the set? In comedy Is that what it is? Yes, okay, but I mean he's the only one doing it right. He probably has a warm-up act, but he is. I mean he's like game set match. Chappelle is like the match. Let's not call him a set. He does his comedy match.

GC:

Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying he's he's above just a tiny. Oh gosh.

David:

Yeah. So he gets about three quarters of the way through and then he says let me tell you what I think about Palestine. I gotta talk about this thing. And I guess this is apparently where he said like Israel got attacked and Hamas is bad, but you know, palestine, let's not obliterate them, you know we've talked about this, we have, we have so people got up tell them store, because I kind of have a hard time remembering.

GC:

Well, people got up and left and protest. Yeah, somebody said yeah somebody got really mad.

David:

Yeah, somebody like fuck Dave. And then he went off. He did, said fuck you, dave.

GC:

Yeah, and you know Dave Well. A lot of people don't know.

David:

You may know Dave is a Muslim and oh, Actually I had forgotten until you just said that right now.

GC:

Yeah, that's right, dave is a Muslim and which doesn't matter. But you know he has his own ideas about, you know, palestine and Israel, just like most Muslims do, and you know he made that comment. But what? Like? A lot of times when Dave says things, people misinterpret and say, oh you on that side, like when he makes the comments about the transgender, he's gender community, he does that and then you know he stepped out there and did the Israel thing and you know he said, hey, listen, israel has a right to exist and defend themselves, but he can't obliterate People. You know Palestinians off the map right off the map.

GC:

It needs to be a two-state solution to this. That's the only way this is ever gonna work, and some people took exception to that.

David:

Well, he also said look, I can be, you know, in support and still speak my mind. Yes, Like I can say what I think Right Without getting attacked.

GC:

But, who are attacking him for Well, you know one of the things Dave said, which I loved. He said listen, when I get up here on stage I'm never gonna say anything. I regret Never, because it comes from a place of comedy. And basically, to sum this up with a paraphrase what he's saying if you can't take a joke, fuck you.

David:

Well, that's true, and you are allowed. I think a big message of his is we don't have to agree with each other, and everything Doesn't mean we have to attack each other, right.

GC:

Right.

David:

He doesn't agree. That was that message of that Netflix special that he had.

GC:

We talked about this. We did Because he did, he got attacked for his jokes about transgender.

David:

Yes, he does make jokes, but if you stay to the end, he wrapped it up with a good message because it was about his friend.

GC:

It was. And then you could see it doing that Netflix special. You could see people, a woman who face changed. She was all into it until he got to that segment of the special and then her whole demeanor changed. Everything changed, and especially when he went into that bit that when you're changed, there's a difference between a man and a woman and a man turning into a woman. That's not blood, that's beet juice. Everyone laughed but she didn't think it was funny. Yeah.

GC:

The woman in the audience. I mean she didn't think that was funny at all yeah.

David:

So anybody who didn't see the Netflix special watching watch it. I forget the name of it, but he does talk about transgender, makes a lot of jokes and he basically said it's kind of you know, when all you women have been women your whole lives. And then Caitlin Jenner wins Woman of the Year in Time magazine.

GC:

And beat every bitch in his room.

David:

Exactly. So I'm not saying I agree with all that.

GC:

I don't have an opinion.

David:

My opinions are very nuanced and they change. I'm very fluid with when I get new information.

GC:

Right.

David:

I mean, I'll tell you, I've talked to a few people about that trans thing lately.

GC:

I've talked to you know trans.

David:

Thing. I just said about that trans thing yeah, that's real Southern.

GC:

Do you know any? Oh, absolutely, Absolutely. So you know, for most part, they are beautiful people.

David:

You know, I mean I'm sure there's an asshole, just like us.

GC:

Oh yeah, but you know we live to be this, you know. You know when Dave did his thing and did his bit, like you say, if you could just Stay for the whole, in his entirety, then you could understand what he was saying. But I don't think they're going to care about that. They're not going to care about him talking about his friend Daphne. That's not. Yeah, they're going to. That's going to be right. I'm not hearing anything else you have to say because of that that bullshit you said in the beginning. We say.

David:

That's the thing, like a lot of the criticism I got. My first instinct was did you watch it to the end? Because the whole point is that we can make fun of each other. The whole point was that he learned through his friend, right, he learned through his eyes and I mean I thought it was beautiful. I almost kind of. It was a moment where I almost wanted to cry and then I was like, oh, he's like a school teacher, he just want my ass and taught me something.

David:

But it really is. He can be offensive, I am sure, like all comedy is, if it's a trigger point for you. We all have things that we deal with.

GC:

Well, let me ask you something. Let me take this back. Take it back when he made the comment about Israel and you're seeing all the anti-Semitic protests. That's happening, not just in this country around the world. Yeah, it's happening in Russia, is happening in Germany, is happening here. Do you think it was he was being responsible by making those jokes?

David:

Comedy should be off limits for judgment. Obviously, some people are going to like comedy, Some people are not going to like it. But unless it incites violence, unless it's like a rally, you know, like some kind of a speaking to your racism. But he's see. I think now I have not seen this. No one's seen it, what he did in Boston. No one can actually report exactly what he said because no one was allowed to record it.

GC:

Right, so it's here. He locks up your phone he locks up your phone.

David:

And he basically said look, no one's ever going to know what I said and I'm not going to repeat it, right, because he's not scripted anyway. He, he kind of risked Exactly. Like us Like yeah except I'm not going to put myself on, we got the same first name yeah. That's it Right. Don't call me Dave.

GC:

I never hate that name. Yeah, I know.

David:

But so I don't know if there's a responsibility to educate people or be politically correct in comedy. Comedy is supposed to push your buttons. Now what people are saying is that he's inciting anti-semitic sentiment among people. Right, but from what I understand, he didn't say anything like that.

GC:

No, he didn't. He did not. He did not make a comment. Like you know, he's made comments in the past about the Jews. And you know, but he's showing the absurdity of it too Exactly, and you know he says things like you know they dress like run DMC and things like that, which is, I mean, it's comedy, and he talks about his own people as well. He talks about whites.

David:

He does. The whites, the blacks, the Jews, so it's a bunch of you know it goes down a lot, but when he said the Jews, which is what I say, a lot just to get you going the Jews, which I gotta watch it because in here I can play around, but then it might trant like I might accidentally say it outside.

GC:

What if it gets on me?

David:

and I'm like well, I talk like this with GC all the time. Why is that a problem? But I don't like Judaism, jewish people Right.

GC:

And then look, in case you're wondering, dave will meet you at if you're cared to join at the Crackle Barrel.

David:

Oh for the meeting.

GC:

Oh for the meeting, his Klan meeting, he has once a week at on Wednesday, wednesdays. Wednesdays at 7 o'clock At 7 o'clock at the Crackle Barrel, how appropriate.

David:

I know that's what. Well, like I said sometimes, white castle oh it's sometimes white castle depends on the city where, so I don't, so let's hit on that. So, dave Chappelle, he goes to Raleigh Right Apparently somebody yells free Palestine. He's like no, no, no, don't even start that. It's gonna be headlines for a week.

GC:

I don't want to talk about it.

David:

So apparently we're all making a big to do about nothing. Well, until we know.

GC:

But there's a correlation there too, it's like you have these college riots, and well, they call them protests, the riots, and you know people making Harvard.

David:

All the yeah.

GC:

Yes, we discussed that in a couple of episodes ago, but yeah, you know, these two are going on at the same time that you got he's like I don't want to bring that shit because look what's happening on these campuses, what he said is look, they should be able to, whether you agree with it or not.

David:

They're not being violent. They can protest whatever they want If they want free Palestine and they think Israel's wrong. I, by the way, I'm not saying I'm gonna get some hate mail. I'm not agreeing with any of that. What I'm saying is in this country and in the world it should be, you have a differing opinion. As long as you are peaceful and you hurt no one, you should be able to say free Palestine.

David:

You should be able to say go Israel and not hate the other side, have a discourse, but what he's saying is that the and I have to cut this out because I don't know who's gonna judge me for that.

GC:

Don't cut that. We don't do that.

David:

I don't want to go to the OK, it is the dungeon, we can say whatever we want, but those kids on the campuses have had job offers taken away. What he was saying is they shouldn't be punished for having an opinion. And he says you know, I shouldn't be punished for speaking my mind. So I'm not gonna ever stop speaking my mind.

GC:

And no one is saying that he should, but you got to take a look what's going on around you. You need to be always know what your surroundings are, because there was a riot in Chicago, yes, between the black Hebrews and the Palestinians. The black Hebrews. Do you know who the black Hebrews are?

David:

Oh, please tell me. Oh, I think I sit in the cross room one.

GC:

Yeah Well, no, you know these is like the black hand.

David:

No, the Italian black hand, or the or the. Yeah, it's like the.

GC:

I don't want to say too much about these cats, but you know, I remember when I was little in New York they used to wear the turbines and you know, wait what?

David:

Yeah, they Is this that guy on the? No, that was an Italian guy in the corner at the bodega that you went up to oh, that's what is this black Hebrew thing You're saying it's like a mafia.

GC:

It's like a gang. It's.

David:

I can't.

GC:

Jews, they're black Jews and they believe that the European Jews are not Jews at all, at all. Interlopers they they stole their religion. That's why Kyrie Irving got in trouble, because you know, kanye got Kyrie in trouble because he was talking about he forwarded a quote from the black Hebrews, from a. I remember that, yes, the black Hebrews you need. If you don't know who the ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know who the black Hebrews are, you need to read up on these cats. And I'm not gonna say anything because I like living.

David:

Holy shit.

GC:

What are you talking?

David:

about the black? Are you saying, like, what we say here might go into some algorithm, they find out and they come after us?

GC:

I am not messing with those cats. Ok, there's nothing funny about them, it is. I have several, so we can't even laugh about I don't. I choose not to fuck around with those.

David:

This is the dungeon man You're supposed to talk about. All right, well, you can. All right, well, I don't know who the black Hebrews are like Look about, let's talk about. I don't want to put it on my computer if you're saying it's that bad.

GC:

They, they. You know they have their own religion. They just happen to believe that European Jews are not really the Jews. They think they are the people of the Bible, those Jews that left Egypt. When they let us go, that was us. Now, I'm not saying that it's not true because, like Poland, German. Moses never saw any parts of Poland, germany. You know none of that. Moses was a brother, so the black Hebrews you are not.

GC:

Yeah, you are not Jewish we are. You stole our religion and you made it your own. And you, asking about the Holocaust, don't care. Well, what about six million Jews? Yeah, still don't care.

David:

Holy. Yes, man, all right why don't I know about this, I just heard.

GC:

I just thought it was like yeah, and I still see him in New York and I think I saw some downtown Winston-Salem and I was about to giggle and I was like no, no, I'm not gonna giggle at these guys, Wait, because they were wearing turbans. They were wearing turbans and long like tunics or something like that.

David:

Okay Well, okay, all right. Well, that's news to me.

GC:

Yeah, this dude, I'm breaking news, baby, I'm breaking news.

David:

I guess I'm Leave those brothers alone, Holy crap man.

GC:

Yeah, but they got into a fight in Chicago and I'm saying that to wrap this up, to say that this stuff is spreading on these college campuses and around the world. And then there was a plane that landed from Tel Aviv and they were looking for them, for the Jews. They thought Jews are on a plane and they yeah, I saw that they were breaking down doors. Come on now. But here's the thing. Is that what we're?

David:

doing Okay, but here's the thing. What you're saying is. I understand you got to watch what you say. But if Dave Chappelle makes a joke or speaks his mind on what he thinks without inciting violence, he's not. He never once said Israel needs to be taken down. He didn't say no. You know, he didn't say any of that stuff.

GC:

What he's saying is.

David:

I understand that you needed to retaliate, but he was basically saying what I said. Like you need to measure. Is it too much Right? You know you don't want women and children dying over this.

GC:

No, no, and they're not leaving. The Palestinians are not leaving, but again audience.

David:

I have no hard opinions. I am fluid. I do not sit here. I want everybody to live in peace and harmony. I don't want anybody to die.

GC:

We all do Dave.

David:

I want Hebrews to hold hands with Muslims. I want Muslims to hold the hand of a Catholic. I want Catholics to hold the hand of a Scientologist. Oh, oh, maybe not. I don't really like Scientology.

GC:

Yeah.

David:

Tom Cruise.

GC:

Do you know I?

David:

wanted to be Tom Cruise. Once upon a time I thought I could be him man. I was about his size. I'm a little taller. When I was a kid I saw Top Gun. I'm like that's going to be me oh. Give me that like the actor, yeah, he was my hero, and all the way through High School I watched every one of his films opening day. If I could get to it, did you? And then I found out I was a Scientologist. And then I read about Scientology, and that turned you off man.

David:

Come on, I could see the crazy in his eye. You can see it movie to movie how his eyes change. And even Top Gun man, top Gun Maverick, is the worst. We'll get into that a different day.

GC:

Oh, that was cool. I was watching it. It was the worst, and I can't stop watching it.

David:

But it's great. It's great flight scenes.

GC:

It's flight scenes are amazing, but the characters are awful. Listen, I've been in two movies and I am no expert, but the two movies I've been in will never see the light of day, but the characters and the movies I was in was far better than that bullshit they put up on the screen. There was nothing to these characters, yeah.

David:

There was it. It was basically a carbon copy of Top Gun. It's the same storyline. You can almost line it up shot for shot or scene for scene, because in Top Gun, what did he do? He did something he wasn't supposed to do. He had to land and they're like you're going to be doing rubber dog shit. I find rubber dog shit from Hong.

GC:

Kong.

David:

Not a Hong Kong. And then I can't. I got to send you the top gun. So what is he doing? The next movie? He's doing something he shouldn't do. He goes Mach 7.2.

GC:

No, and then pull old Ed.

David:

Harrison, did he get to Mach 10?

GC:

Is that what it was? Yeah, he did.

David:

He's Mach 10.1. His plane breaks up, ed Harris. He's like by the way, you ejected 10 Gs. Yes, he ain't coming down, he's got free and just drink the glass of water. Okay, I know enough about that. You're wearing a suit, sure, but you're still going to have a little damage to your body. Okay, maybe an arm ripped off at least. Right, but he goes to Ed Harrison. Ed Harris is like I'm going to take you down, but I can't.

GC:

I got to send you the top gun.

David:

Okay, and storyline is almost identical.

GC:

But here's what really got me.

David:

D Is Goose, goose, the son.

GC:

Oh, I fucking hate that. No, not that Everybody. Okay, yeah, everybody who was back in the first one had gray hair, except for him. Oh, that was a nice die-hard man you know, val Kilmer, hair Gray Ed.

David:

Harris, well, you know about Val.

GC:

Kilmer, everybody looks old, yeah, but you know about Val Kilmer, like, yeah, you can talk, which was Jennifer or Collin Connolly Connolly, whatever her name is. Yeah, I mean, she still had, you know, brown hair. This chick was acting in the 80s, dude.

David:

Everybody has brown hair. Do you want to see a love scene between two gray haired washed up?

GC:

But come on, at least make this jackass an admiral. They left for me, captain.

David:

I'm just, I'm just saying that.

GC:

My Tom Cruise get to have black hair.

David:

He didn't have black hair.

GC:

He did.

David:

He had black hair in the first one, in the second one. Stop shouting, you're bleeding into my microphone. Oh my gosh, you keep shouting and I'm going to have to edit this all night and I can't take it anymore. It's three hours. Three hours last time because we bled into each other's microphone, because we shouted so that I got to get more sound, we got to get more sound material up, but the point is, let's go back to comedy. Okay, so Fucked up. Come on, mavry. I love the first one too. That's all I'm saying.

David:

So, everybody should hold hands in religions. That's how far I went. That's how far that rabbit hole went down really fast. Man, my mind works too fast.

GC:

I know it, you, because you're comedic genius.

David:

My body is slow but mine is not comedy, so let's talk about this holding hands. So he has a responsibility not to incite violence. There is another story recently, oh my gosh, about comedy Hasan Minhaj. I went to see him in Winston-Salem, saw his new set. Oh, did you? Yeah, carmen and I. She got tickets. She likes them Sweet. So we go over to the Haynes brand theater we watch them.

GC:

He was at the Haynes brand, haynes brand.

David:

We had to lock up our phones, just like at Dave Chappelle, because he's testing out his set. So you have to lock up your phone. Okay, can't get it until after the show I got you and he starts telling his stories right about how he was oppressed, you know, for being Muslim, looking different.

GC:

Right being brown.

David:

His name is yeah, basically for being brown. Now then the story comes out in the New Yorker, right? I'm saying that, right. New York Times no no no, that's the article I sent you. Okay, but the New Yorker first reported that his stories are, which he presents as fact, by the way, because he puts things up on the wall. It's very much like a daily, the daily right, like he's telling a story. That's like the news, and he's going to tell you a story and he relates it to his life.

GC:

Right.

David:

I was going through the airport security and I was pulled aside just because I had a brown name. Right, I was ripped off the basketball court when I was young by an undercover FBI agent and he slammed me up against the car and I was arrested. I don't know if he's had arrested, but because I had, you know, because.

GC:

Did he actually say that? Yeah?

David:

Yeah, he said that just before a prom date. His girlfriend canceled his prom date Because they found out he was brown Because they found he's brown. They didn't want people to see a white girl with brown. Now that's all disputed Apparently, that girl and her parents have come out. Well, yeah, they came out because they were harassed after this show. People found out who it was and they started sending some email and stuff.

David:

So comedy did incite a little bit of harassment in this and it was, but the thing is it wasn't even truth. What is his responsibility?

GC:

So what did he do? He embellished it.

David:

Embellished it hard. But here's the problem he embellished the stuff to make a joke, Right.

GC:

Right.

David:

Like I might be, like you know, telling a joke about a time that I went to the bathroom. You know and I had the worst diary of my life and I'll tell you that whole story. I might embellish a few.

GC:

I mean, that's what comedy is, though.

David:

I'm saying, yeah, but what is the responsibility? I don't know, but I know that you should have truth in comedy. How? Because it's an exaggeration. D? It's always an exaggeration, but does it steer you towards a manipulate? I mean, he had a good point, Like he's trying to make a point about racism against brown people.

GC:

Okay.

David:

But what he's doing is presenting his life as if it's facts. He's putting up pictures of himself. He's telling the story.

GC:

Have you ever watched him? I watched him on a daily show. I think yeah.

David:

He starts talking really slow and he's like he gets really in, and then he comes up like ah, you know, but he's, he's manipulating you.

GC:

Because he was one of the guys to replace. Yeah, I mean, and they would. I thought they were grooming him. They are Trevor Noah to replace him, right, correct. So you know, I've seen a couple of times. I wasn't you know, but he's sitting behind the desk.

David:

So you think he has no responsibility? I think to be true. He can embellish a story even if it hurts other people, just to make his point that brown people. Well now if?

GC:

you're going to bring people into it. You know that's liable and slander and things like that.

GC:

I'm talking about that. But if you embellish a story, like if I sit there and told the story about my two brothers, right, and I may, in Bella show, exaggerate the point to make it funnier than it normally would be saying you know, you know, in the end the punchline is my brother kicked me through a fish tank. Well, you know you're going to have to. You know, if you're a comedian, you build a story and I'm sure that's what he's doing. I don't know everything because I haven't seen him really in his stand up, I've just seen him on the Daily Show. But if he's building a story, you use your imagination. Yes, a little embellishment is in there. Yes, now, if you write out a lie and said you know, didn't David did this and he ate a sandwich, and I made him make me a sandwich afterwards.

David:

Okay, that's what he's doing, because he actually said his prom day they did it for the brand. Now he sticks by that story. He says that he did. He just wasn't on the doorstep. Because he says, is when it got to the doorstep, okay, the mom opens the door and says we don't want our daughter with a brown boy. Now he will admit it wasn't on the doorstep. I did that for dramatic effect.

GC:

Really.

David:

But he says that they did call him or something two days before and broke it up because he was brown and they had relatives in Indiana. Okay, that might be true, but I guess my point is is like so, dave Chappelle, his comedy, people are saying it's inciting anti-Semitism and he's not allowed to speak his opinion. Right, I didn't say that no people listen to me, oh yeah yeah, yeah and then.

David:

Hassan Minash, he can lie in his, he's lying and he says that's okay, Because I'm just trying to tell a story. Would you not go see him again?

David:

No, I don't really like him Even before this. Yeah, carmen likes him a lot, or did, I don't know. I think she was a little disappointed in the lying and the prom thing. But I don't. I don't enjoy his way of telling. He gets really weird in the way he's telling the story. It's kind of annoying. Okay, I like Dave Chappelle's not because he's inciting my anti-Semitism. I have none Right Zero. Just get that clear to everybody.

GC:

I love every type of person Crack a barrel.

David:

Yes, yes, I still do that. I'm not going to leave the club. I pay for the membership and I get free business.

GC:

Can I ask you a question? Yeah, sure, so. So the embellishment bothers you to the point you wouldn't go see him again, and you know. And let's go back. I'm fascinated by the prom thing, because did they not did hit the girl he asked to go to the prom? Did she not know that her parents would not like him bringing home the chocolate?

David:

You see what I'm saying Before all this. Well, obviously she said yes to the prom.

GC:

Before the Cassage and before the prom tuxedos and you pay for the limo and all that stuff.

David:

Maybe they didn't know he was brown until she said yeah, I'm going with Hassan.

GC:

But she.

David:

Hassan. What type of name is Hassan Exactly? I don't know those details. I have to go back and watch the comedy.

GC:

You see why I'm going. The girl he asked, she, when he asked her, she should have said immediately I can't, you can't come home.

David:

Maybe she didn't know. Maybe she didn't know her parents were racist until she said it's a, it's a song. You know, you know well, I don't know that that's always true If you're living in a white neighborhood with white people at a white high school, and you're a white kid with white parents and you just deal with white people.

GC:

You watch white TV shows and you go to Cracker Barrel on Wednesdays.

David:

That you know that your parents are racist until they're put in a position to be racist.

GC:

Well, you know what? That's a very valid point.

David:

So let's wrap that all up, so give me your final thoughts on this.

GC:

My final thoughts is you're talking about Dave and comedy.

GC:

It's a comedy, I think comedy is these people who are talented both of them and we were talking about tonight, and it's their take on the world. And they just happen to be funny and an average person. But and they have a right to say that, and we've talked about this before you and I have talked about this on the past episodes yes, they take things, they see things like a poet, see, see things and they write it like Dave Matthews is a poet. I think Dave Chappelle is a sage, a comedic sage he's. He's our Martin and Dave. Mark Twain and Dave Chappelle should have the right to say things and to make you know, observe the world in his way. Yes, but when you, when some idiot out there, take that and interpret it as something that's construed as anti-semitic, then that's where the problem is. Dave can't control everybody.

David:

That's what I was just going to say.

GC:

You can't control how somebody hears you, he hears you, you can't. He's not saying get rid of Israel. He's not saying, never said that free Palestine completely.

David:

I mean, I think a lot of people want Palestine to have a free place to live. But we also want Israel to live without being attacked. We want everybody to be peaceful, right, and it's the two state option.

GC:

That's the only way this ever going to work. And Hassan, the other brother that you were talking about, yes, hey, a little embellishment will go a long way. I mean, you're a comedian. You have an imagine that you exaggerate all of the time. You know you're going to embellish a little bit and you're not going to get everything right. And why does this fucking offend people anyway? I mean, he's telling a joke. If you can't take a joke, you know. You know I'm motto Can't take a joke what Fuck you? Yeah, okay, I got it right.

David:

I got it right, you did get it right Apparently we've said that before and I just forgot. Yes.

GC:

So that's I stand on that, you know. If you don't like to do for doing that embellishing, or you, which you construed as lying, don't go see him.

David:

I agree, I mean, I've always agreed with that. I think comedy unless it's inciting violence, sure it's inciting hatred, which this clearly did not. We'll find out if I'm wrong when he has his Netflix special. Finally, but I just think, yeah, we got to talk about it because it happened in Raleigh, that's right next door to where we live. Well, it didn't actually happen in Boston, but I mean, he came down to Raleigh and then, you know, it made another story. So thank you for your thoughts, man.

GC:

Hey, thank you for bringing that.

David:

I feel like every time I talk to you that I learned something.

GC:

I do. I feel the same way.

David:

It's usually useless, but now I'm kidding. No he's a good, this is good. All right, here we go. That dumb shit segment. Is that good? Crickets, everybody leaves. Yeah, yeah, this is when you can leave everybody. No, let's do it. All right, this is GC's dumb shit segment.

GC:

Listen, thank you, thank you, you're far too kind.

David:

Yeah, everybody shut up, shut up, we. He's far too kind.

GC:

There's a new thing we're doing to call it that. Tds is called that dumb shit. So here's a story that came out of a great magazine called the smoking gun, and apparently, dave, you have the names and everything, but you know set.

David:

Set this up for me.

GC:

Set this up for me.

David:

I don't know what the date was. Do you want me to look it up? No no no, just just. All right GC brought to my attention that Theodore, morgan, morgan, morgan, let's call them Theodore.

GC:

Morgan, let's call them Teddy.

David:

First problem is the name.

GC:

Teddy, let's call him Teddy Teddy.

David:

And you'll find out why. Yes, teddy, oh God Teddy, 55 living near a storage facility or in the storage facility. I just read it really quick just beforehand Right, and so the cops see a car In Arkansas In Arkansas.

GC:

Did I say that? I didn't say that yet Okay.

David:

So a man in Arkansas, theodore Morgan, 55. Oh Lord, he's the police see a car rocking in the night, all right, and so they walk up and they find him. Teddy, theodore Morgan aka. Teddy now having sex with a stuffed animal, yes, and so they walk up and they find him. I don't even know where it out. We're in it out. I'm just not sure what. What this is some dumb shit. I'm not sure what you want me to say. Once I say that story, I feel like it's what do you mean I?

David:

I hold these truths to be self-evident. Listen that all men should not have sex with stuffed animals. Hey, listen and and.

GC:

He went. You know he has a mug shot and everything.

David:

Oh yeah, he does. So I'm. I got my reading glasses on. I wish everybody could see that. They got the blue light. They got the blue light.

GC:

Oh nice.

David:

Yeah, they're too big for my face. So this is, this is from holy crap man. Hey, look, man caught in the act with a stuffed animal. Right, I love the. I love the start of this title. It says if the car is a rockin, don't bother knocking. Yes, they took this cat to jail, right? Oh, so he was on probation, so the cops were able to search him and his auto without the need for a warrant. Once they got him, once they saw him having to see any Apparently.

David:

he lives away from the storage facility, about about a mile. Okay, so he has a family. Let's just say he has three kids.

David:

He's a divorced father of three, yes, living a mile away from a storage facility. Right, I'm probation. They don't have to have a warrant to search him. According to the probable cause affidavit, that search turned up methamphetamine, a syringe and two marijuana pipes. So for that, for that, it's against the law, you know. So, apparently, yeah, you go to jail for metham although that's a different story that we should talk about. That you shouldn't have to go to jail for drug possession, but let's just stick with that. He's charged with two felony drug charges and misdemeanor counts. So it's a misdemeanor to have sex with a teddy, teddy bear. Teddy can have sex with teddy, right, and I'm just saying is it's teddy?

GC:

should you go to jail for that one.

David:

Well, I mean, I don't think he had to, because it was just a misdemeanor.

GC:

But you know, we don't know how to bear feels about it. You know because they never brought the bear in the court. But what I'm saying is is this is a one-way, this is a one-way thing, and you know. Now I know you say he stuffed that, stuff bear. He did, yeah, he did. And now what? What do you have to smoke?

David:

Oh Hi, do you have to get to where you look at a stuffed animal saying, oh my gosh, this is that dumb shit segment it is okay Do you remember we talked about the rapper with the spit in my latest mouth what you said you said how famous do you have to be Before you can spit in a woman's mouth?

GC:

and now it's hi.

David:

Do you have to be Before you can have sex with a stuffed animal? Well now, all right, let me ask you this are you really gonna ask me a question? Okay so you're 13 years old, you're 11, 12, 13. All of a sudden, you have this thing hanging down between your legs. You don't even know what it is yet.

GC:

What is that? What is that boy?

David:

You never. You never rubbed it up against something that you weren't supposed to rub it up against. Just see how.

GC:

I felt you never like you never like.

David:

No, you, you always that band and look.

GC:

I don't believe you say because you always want to David when and I got hard.

David:

I found the nearest lady and I gave her a little pickle tickle, because I only here, I don't know, just doing a voice for you. The one time I imitated you you weren't around. You remember that. So I got. No, I wasn't there. Yeah, exactly, we're in a show together.

GC:

GC and I.

David:

We're doing a show together and he's not there one night, but he had lines, you weren't that, you were just gone. I don't remember why okay but we're running a scene that GC is supposed to be in and we're actually supposed to be talking to each other. So he's not there and there was no one reading the lines from the audience, so I just start. I remembered the lines, so I start saying the lines now. I happened to try to talk like GC just to keep the scene real.

GC:

Just because.

David:

I'm a good actor. Oh, I got ratted out by my castmates. No, you didn't you didn't know you weren't there. You told me did I?

GC:

yeah, no one Self-out. Yes, you that doesn't make any.

David:

Actually that makes total sense. That's not one told me, I had to, I had a, but no one. That's right, because what happened is we went to rehearsal but there were other people that thought I was being racist by doing your voice.

GC:

Oh, really, that's, that's, true.

David:

Yeah, there were people saying I went too far and they were uncomfortable.

GC:

I'm like wait a second, you are like GC's, my friend.

David:

I was like I talked shit to him and he talked shit to me all day long. And if you don't think that, being with him all day, I don't learn how to talk like him and make it funny, and if he would have been here he might have popped me in the face, but he wasn't here.

GC:

So I thought I'd get away with it. You were embellishing or what you just lied.

David:

No man, I was trying to do it. Oh okay, you know I can't do it because I don't remember the lines now.

GC:

Oh.

David:

I was like like when you say because you always say my name, it's not like David. We're like Dave, you know it's like yeah, I can't do it right now because I'm on the spot, but let's go back to Having sex with teddy bears. Yes, so you're you're saying is when you were a kid and you got a boner. I didn't you never once like thought about like I wonder what that would feel like between my mattress in the box. Listen, I never wonder what that would feel like in that cantaloupe.

GC:

I Is that hot apple pie looks, man, I'm gonna go ahead and let you roll with this.

David:

Well, I'm not saying I did it, but what I'm saying is people weird shit when they need a little pickle tickle, like you say. You always say pickle tickle.

GC:

Yeah, I do say that a lot. And also also what. The first of all, I wouldn't have a teddy bear 12 years old. This motherfucker is not 12. He's 55. What it?

David:

was probably his daughter's. What that just got creepy it, did it not. What if it was his daughter's teddy bear? Oh, Wow. I know I had to cut it. I'm sorry if that mute sound right. I was trying to get the bleed to not happen.

GC:

Oh, oh man.

David:

Oh, like you're not gonna go to the store and buy a teddy bear, like that teddy bear in that gift shop. I'm guarantee, I'm taking it back to my car.

GC:

Oh no, he has more than one teddy bear.

David:

He already had daughters, so he's probably at home. He's on a little meth amphetamine snorts it up. She's the teddy bears. He's walking out the door. It's like bye kids.

GC:

No, he has more than one. Yeah, three dollars three or three kids I'm talking about one teddy bear. I'm talking about. He had more than one teddy bear.

David:

That's like what. Let me ask you a question. You're saying you try to new one every time.

GC:

I Guess my my thing question is if, why not get a blow-up doll? And if you impatient, just blow it up halfway and fold it, and well that I.

David:

Mean. That's my point, that's what I'm saying.

GC:

Why is that a bit? That's what I want to know.

David:

I think it was a crime of opportunity that he had the teddy bear close, probably one of his kids. They're not using it anymore. I'm a little lonely, I'm a little high, teddy is soft. And what if we? Why are we calling it Teddy? That is assumptions. That might have been a girl bear and. His name might have been Terry for a girl. Well, you know what?

GC:

he's a funny thing about it.

David:

It's all funny.

GC:

What you know. In article they blurred the teddy bears face.

David:

Oh my god, I'm gonna have to put that up cuz you're right. Holy crap, they did that. Whoever did that, that's genius man. They did they put out that.

GC:

So if you're out there you're interested, you know, in the TDS, you know.

David:

You know, which apparently means that dumb shit. No, seriously.

GC:

Thank you. Thank you, tds.

David:

TDS. Yes, everything else that's funny. Yeah, Teddy Bears, I'm never gonna eat a teddy gram the same.

GC:

Those things anyway, man, I should. So you know we, you know you'll be getting these.

David:

Does that mean every week? Every week, you're gonna send me something. See what you guys don't understand. Who are listening?

GC:

We're almost done.

David:

But every week he sends me bad, dumb shit. He sends me like four or five articles of crazy shit. And I was trying to make this a serious fun. Well, I mean where we talk about family friend, friendly with a spin on it, or politics Rapper spinning miles, man having sex with teddy bears. But I'm supposed to be the sick one when I say a kid might want to, like you know, exploring sexuality.

GC:

Hey, uh, yeah.

David:

I'm the sick one, but you're the one.

GC:

I never said you was sick. Did I say you was sick?

David:

You were looking at me like Dave, I'm gonna let you roam with this one.

GC:

That implies that you cannot relate or understand and I don't hurt man I try to make. I think I don't remember a lot, but I think I made it a habit not to try to fuck fruit.

David:

Just saying okay. So with that, I hope you enjoyed today's show. We are on Apple, spotify and all your favorite platforms, minus a few. Find out which ones, because we don't actually know apparently almost everywhere. We're on almost everywhere. Well, we're sorry we're late this week, but we will be back next week, probably at our normal time on Mondays or Tuesdays. Just kind of wait for us to show up in your feed.

David:

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GC:

Absolutely.

David:

We hear you.

GC:

Thank you.

David:

Thank you so much. It's so that we can bring you more episodes with that dumb shit. We should have called the podcast that dumb shit, damn can you change that now? I don't think you can change that now. We can get t-shirts. Let's do that. Oh, let's get t-shirts. Let's that dumb shit, that TDS, that's easier to say. Then it's about GD time show. Anyway, hope you all are well, stay healthy, love each other, stop fighting.

GC:

Yeah, take care of yourselves and each other. We'll see y'all real soon, no doubt it's time to beat box. Do it, do it, yeah, oh.

David:

I Did it to down to bow. I guess you couldn't bear it. Oh, that was good. That was a good one, oh.

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