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Michigan Wolverines' Glory, and Honoring MLK Jr.'s visits to Winston-Salem
Touchdowns, tackles, and triumphs – the Michigan Wolverines' season has been nothing short of a screenplay worthy of a Hollywood blockbuster.
As we near Martin Luther King Jr. Day, we honor the civil rights icon, while also dissecting the complexities of the holiday's greeting and delving into the legacies of MLK Jr. and also Malcolm X. Did you know about Martin Luther King Jr's historic church visit in Winston-Salem? We'll recount that tale and explore the evolving civil rights movement, bringing us right into the heart of black representation in iconic television shows that have truly set the stage for today's societal attitudes.
For those of you with a taste for the peculiar, our segment “that dumb shit” might just be your new guilty pleasure. Imagine blue ice crashing through your roof – a real hazard of modern flight that's as shocking as it is true. As we wrap up, get ready for a musical metamorphosis! We're teasing new outro vibes that could swing from rap beats to Swiftian melodies. So, make sure you're back with us next week for more spirited banter, profound discussions, and a few laughs to keep things lively.
Touchdowns, tackles, and triumphs – the Michigan Wolverines' season has been nothing short of a screenplay worthy of a Hollywood blockbuster.
As we near Martin Luther King Jr. Day, we honor the civil rights icon, while also dissecting the complexities of the holiday's greeting and delving into the legacies of MLK Jr. and also Malcolm X. Did you know about Martin Luther King Jr's historic church visit in Winston-Salem? We'll recount that tale and explore the evolving civil rights movement, bringing us right into the heart of black representation in iconic television shows that have truly set the stage for today's societal attitudes.
For those of you with a taste for the peculiar, our segment “that dumb shit” might just be your new guilty pleasure. Imagine blue ice crashing through your roof – a real hazard of modern flight that's as shocking as it is true. As we wrap up, get ready for a musical metamorphosis! We're teasing new outro vibes that could swing from rap beats to Swiftian melodies. So, make sure you're back with us next week for more spirited banter, profound discussions, and a few laughs to keep things lively.
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David:All right, all right, ba da da, ba da da ba da. Da, da da. Happy new year. Happy new year. It's good to see you, my brother, how you doing.
GC:Yeah, I'm doing well.
David:Hope you are, I am.
GC:Man, it's good to be back here.
David:It's been a long time.
GC:Yeah, it has, we are back.
David:y'all, we're back. Hey, how was your Christmas as a Jewish man?
GC:It was great.
David:How was yours? Mine was great as a Jewish man as well.
GC:Yeah, yeah, it was good. We really didn't do anything, we just had a family over.
David:That was great, Do you actually so, even though you don't celebrate Christmas?
GC:Wait, wait wait, Is this like a legitimate question?
David:Yeah, yeah yeah, no, but like you know, because I know, like you have the Christmas holiday because everything, everything shut down. So, even though you're Jewish, you still have the family over, since you have the vacation time.
GC:Oh, absolutely.
David:Yeah, so it works out for everybody.
GC:Yeah, we met at my mother's and she, you know, she ordered a meal from Lowe's or one of those places like that. And it was great. All the grandchildren, my brother and my wife and my mama and, yeah, dubug M's Bo Tutty, so many people in house, but it was nice. How about you? What did you do? It was good, I went to.
David:I went up to Ohio and saw Carmen's family for a couple of days. Carmen yeah, carmen, my love, my boo, my bunny Went to see her family for a couple of days and then came back on Christmas Day to see my family. Good deal, yeah, christmas. Traveling on Christmas is not so bad because it's very little traffic.
GC:Oh yeah, yeah, it's kind of nice I upgraded myself to first class, did you yeah? Your first time in first class. Oh no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. Come on now.
David:Oh, of course not.
GC:I forgot who the fuck I was talking about. I'm my bad man.
David:I was about to answer did you drive?
GC:You didn't drive.
David:No, we did drive up, but then I flew back because I needed to get to my family by Christmas Day.
GC:Oh, by yourself, yeah, ok, I got you.
David:So I upgraded and I think it was about 8.30 in the morning when I got on the plane and immediately got a drink. There you go. By the time we landed in Charlotte, I had had four drinks.
GC:There you go. That's what it's there for.
David:That was Christmas. Oh so Look, that was my Christmas present to myself. Who would you fly? I flew American Airlines.
GC:Good deal. You're keeping my daughter in business. I appreciate your business.
David:Well, it was a tiny little plane, though Tell her that, like CJ900, whatever, I flew on they didn't have props. They wanted a prop plane. No, no, no, no, no. But it's not the big plane and the seats are too uncar. I mean they're better than the cabin, don't get me wrong. Like I don't want to be in the main cabin Right. However, it's not really that different than the main cabin on that plane. I mean you just got a little wider seat. The best part is just the attention from.
GC:Yeah you do, yeah you get your hot towels From the no. You didn't get the hot towels, what I got was four drinks back to back.
David:I think she was getting a little sick of me constantly asking for drinks.
GC:No, that's a job. That's a job they don't mind.
David:Okay, all right. Well, hey, today is January 15th of 2020. I never thought I'd make it this far.
GC:You didn't. No, I never really thought I'd make it this far.
David:I know you think you're going to live until 150.
GC:20. Well, whatever, yeah 20.
David:Long time.
GC:Yeah.
David:But today we got some stuff to talk about. We are going to talk briefly about the Michigan Wolverines. Go blue, baby Go blue. Never saw, I actually did not see it coming.
GC:So this is yes, you did.
David:I told you on this podcast, I did not think that they would beat Georgia and they never ended up playing Georgia.
GC:No, that was what. Yeah, that wasn't even so.
David:I wasn't actually wrong because I didn't play them, yeah, but if they would have. But I appreciate you telling me that. I know that you were happy for me.
GC:I was.
David:And I know that's hard for you. I like Michigan, I know you do you like every team.
GC:Yeah, I think and I've said this before and I'm going to let you finish but I think when Michigan, ucla, usc, penn State, when those guys are good, it's good for college football. I've always said that, I've told you that before.
David:I agree, but did you want Michigan to be at the pinnacle, at the top Number one? New Monroe, I like.
GC:Michigan. I do, I genuinely like Michigan. I liked it when Bo Schembeckler was there.
David:Well, that was a long time ago. That was back in the.
GC:Back in the old days. I like Charles Woodson, I like when they Now you're talking good stuff, oh man. Yeah, that's up.
David:This year was a great year, Aside from the scandal that we had to talk about. That wasn't really a scandal. I think the long farther we get away from it, we realize how it wasn't as much of a big deal as people were making it sound like.
David:So hey, all I care about is we got it? I don't ever. I know Harbaugh's probably gone. Mccarthy is declaring for the NFL. He was the quarterback Next year. I'm going to care and I'm going to be upset, but right now and I never thought this was going to happen again in my lifetime what? Because it happened in 97 when we got the national championship.
GC:Right.
David:I never thought it happened again. But right now I'm just going to bask in the glory of what is the Michigan Wolverines.
GC:Congratulations, my friend. Thank you, congratulations. It was a lot of fun. I was really pulling for it. It was a great game.
David:It was a tense game until the last quarter. It was Very tense game. So anyway, thank you, thank you very much. Thank you everybody who's listening. I know you all cared and you were rooting for me. I actually had, during the Alabama game, your wife texted me to make sure I was OK because it was such a tense game. And that's valid because, yeah, I mean I guess I can get a little crazy during these games, but I was actually pretty calm. I was actually pretty calm. Well, yeah, because I'm old now it's like come what may.
David:The next day I wake up like look, we got the national championship. I woke up the next day.
GC:When you're working, I'm still me. I still got to go to work. Yeah, you got a real big ass.
David:Yeah, I didn't get to go have a parade. No one gave me anything.
GC:I didn't get a pony. You're talking about future millionaires. Yeah, some of them millionaires right now.
David:Yes, oh, tell my NIO. Yeah, and Michigan's not really that involved in the NIO, but that's neither here nor there. Thank you everyone. Michigan Wolverines forever 2023 champs.
GC:Go blue, go blue.
David:All right Now. Today I like to talk. You sent me a message on what to talk about and I would like to talk about this, so I got to say it right away Happy MLK Junior Day. Thank you Same to you, my friend, is that weird to say happy?
GC:Yeah, I know it is. You know you could spend a whole entire podcast talking about MLK, but it's where we could never say anything different for whatever everyone else has said Amazing man, listen to this, check this out. I was two years old when he was assassinated, april 4, 1968. Yeah, yeah, I was two years old.
GC:Yeah, probably, you probably don't remember it you know what, and people have asked me that before. Here's what I do remember. I remember the mood I knew something was. I don't remember. I don't have vivid memories like my older brother does. He remember exactly the way he was? Actually, my older brother remembers when Kennedy was assassinated. He was in school. They let him out, but I remember something going on around the house. I knew it was. Quite obviously my parents were distraught when the Trump Major Peace was assassinated. So I think I say this a lot if it had not been for Martin Luther King Jr, you andI may not be sitting here I wouldn't be married to the woman I've been with for 35 years. I wouldn't have two beige kids and beige grandkids.
David:And they're so pretty. They're so pretty. You know how I feel about beige babies, yeah.
GC:No. How do you feel about beige?
David:babies. I feel like they are the future. Beige is the future Really.
GC:Yes, a mother of pearl.
David:Isn't that a color? I feel like that's all white babies. Mother of pearl, that's off-white, right. Pearl is like pearl, oh Pearl, it's like, oh, grandma's work. What are you talking about in pearl? I'm just talking about beige. Babies are beautiful.
GC:Oh, ok, beautiful.
David:Beautiful beige babies. They're the future. They are the future Because let me tell you One. I don't want to talk too much about your family, but they are all beautiful. They do have beautiful eyes, beautiful skin. I've seen a lot of ugly, white kids, so maybe it's time to turn the nation beautiful. What are you talking about?
GC:I don't know, I'm just talking shit.
David:So anyway, let's talk about Martin Luther King Jr. So everybody just skip over what I just said, because I was just kidding. I mean, but no, I have seen ugly white kids.
GC:Yeah, I've seen ugliness across all the racial lines.
David:I know, but I'm only allowed to talk about the white ones. Ok, ok, so here we go. So Martin Luther King Jr is very important. You're right. We probably would not be sitting across. Well, somebody would have come along and done something. But he was special in many ways, right?
GC:Like the peaceful protest.
David:But let's talk about why it's important here. We're sitting here. What's to say on North Carolina? Yes, I did not know that he came here twice.
GC:He did. He came here. He came to Wake Forest College and they said that it was standing room only and he gave one of the most prolific speeches they had ever heard.
David:That you can still listen to if you go to Wake Forest. I think you can go on their website at. Wake Forest University and find his speech. You can at least get it in their library.
GC:I mean you can get it from the library. Oh OK, I didn't know that. He also came to Greensboro, if I'm not mistaken, and he met with the students that had been at college the Bennett Bells, I think. They were called and spoke to them and they were just can you imagine that? No, I mean, think about it. You're sitting there and you're talking about having the basic fundamental rights with this legend. I wonder if those people that was, they knew he was special, they knew there was something about him. But can you imagine having a conversation with Martin Luther King? I mean, really, that just blows my mind. Someone say, oh yeah, I knew Martin Luther King and this and that Like what, the? So what was that like?
David:And he like what Do you know anybody who actually I do.
GC:I do that knew him.
David:Yes, what did they say he was like?
GC:Some called him a prophet.
David:Do you really think he was?
GC:Do I think he was.
David:That's what? Yeah, you're the one pressing the room.
GC:Um, I do. I think he was a modern day prophet. I think he, you know, just like anyone else, he had his flaws. Everyone knows that. I mean, there's no secret about that.
David:Well, I just heard. I mean there's the woman that he has, women on the side, all right.
GC:Well, that's all I've heard. I haven't heard anything else, though. No, yeah, that's what I was alluding to, that's what I was. So, yeah, but so the Kennedy, so you know.
David:So the Kennedy, so the.
GC:But who didn't was Malcolm X.
David:Well, but he was very strict.
GC:Yes.
David:Very strict, but you know his leader, the one, elijah Muhammad. He had plenty of women he did so it's a little hypocritical, which is why Malcolm X stopped, stopped following. Exactly you are up on your shit, dude, you know you know why, though. It's off topic, because I was such a big Muhammad Ali fan.
GC:Oh, you're watching Muhammad Ali.
David:Oh yeah, and you know, he always brought up Elijah Muhammad the great. What did he call him? The great prophet Elijah Muhammad.
GC:Yeah. Yeah, Um no, and he turned on Malcolm X. He did that's bad.
David:He. That was his biggest regret in his life.
GC:It was Um. You know, the Holy Apostle Elijah Muhammad Um, and you know that's one of the. And see, here's the argument a lot of people like to make, not an argument, but they say who would you rather have, mlk or Malcolm X? Well, you know, they're two different leaders. I mean, they were two different personalities One believed in nonviolent and the other one believed in any means necessary. If you put your hands on me, I'll make sure you know you won't put your hands on anyone else.
David:That's true, but but there is also incorrect me if I'm wrong, because I could be that that Martin Luther King Jr wanted integration. He wanted to hold hands. You know little black boys and little black girls and all that stuff.
GC:Whereas the.
David:I have a dream speech so he wanted integration, whereas that is not what the black Muslims wanted. They wanted separate. They wanted to keep. Black people should be with black people. We should have our own way from right. So there were the two ways of thought. So they were kind of. They were kind of, you know, against each other in a way.
GC:Well, you know, they only met one time and it was briefly, and so. But here's the thing that you may not know is when Malcolm X felt that way, he wanted black empowerment, which you know who didn't have that time but he wanted. When he went to Mecca and he went on a hodge and he came back, he saw that when he was in Mecca, he saw that he had a Muslim brothers that look different from him, so he was in. When he got there, he was like Whoa, I have a white brother that's a Muslim like me, and so they he changed his whole mindset about integration. You know, he said, you know what we need to empower ourselves before we can integrate into white society, or you know. But what we need to do is get our shit together. Well, lack of a better word, until we can. We can't get no black unity, black and white unity, until we get black unity.
David:Yeah, and then, and then. So he comes back saying that and he's saying hey, the prophet Muhammad, he is wrong and he had. Muhammad Ali, go against him.
GC:Yes.
David:So my question is well, we'll give it, we'll get to that in a minute, but let's stick with this because so he actually visited. I have here Wait Chapel.
GC:Wake.
David:Forest University.
GC:Yes.
David:On October 11th 1962, that is early. That's when JFK was here, Still president. Oh, you mean not you mean in the White House?
GC:Yes, I'm sorry. Okay, Nine, nine here in Winston-Salem, winston-salem, okay.
David:Although I think he probably did come through North Carolina. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that he ever passed through Winston-Salem.
GC:Really.
David:George Washington did.
GC:Yeah, he was stayed in Old Salem.
David:Everybody's got somewhere where George Washington stayed, bullshit, anyway. That is the story. So, but at that speech, hey you know what?
GC:Did you know? This little tidbit of history. I'm going to say it right quick. You know he caught pneumonia, right yes, he was going down to the slave quarters that diddle one of the slaves and he got pneumonia.
David:This is not true. Yeah, is it what? That's how he died. He had pneumonia. I thought he died because he kept bloodletting him and he had an infection.
GC:They were bloodletting him because he had pneumonia.
David:But he was. How do you know? It was because he was diddling the slave.
GC:I'm pretty sure that's what he was doing.
David:Was this written down?
GC:Yeah.
David:This is not written down.
GC:This is oral history.
David:That's some bullshit. I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I never read that before. I know he came down to pneumonia, all right.
GC:All right.
David:Anyway, on October 11, 1962, JFK is still here in the White House. His speech was about integration of the South and it's big, Like you said, standing room only Wake Forest University.
GC:I know.
David:I know Spicy Siu. I mean that's our local university, I mean it's a fairly conservative well, liberal university?
GC:I don't know. Yeah, it is now.
David:But then in April 13th 1964, so JFK is now gone. Lyndon Johnson, he visited here in Wenceselm on 4th Street.
GC:Yes, apparently.
David:Right Golar Metropolitan AME Zion Church. Yes, he did, is that?
GC:still here. It is Golas. Yeah, ah, I think so I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah, that's a big church, I mean a huge church, so only over a thousand people attended. Yes.
David:And it focused on voting and nonviolent protests. Yes, yes, nonviolent, not like January 6th, nonviolent.
GC:Right.
David:Right.
GC:Protest and you know a lot of people say what if the Palestinians, Palestinians, practice nonviolent protests like that? Would they, would they like, be further advanced? Would they get more? Because they have the world watching them? Instead of engaging in violence which Israelis engage in violence on?
David:them.
GC:But I'm just saying, what if they took that track of nonviolence and protests? As far as boycotting, you know, but you know, here again I'm answering my own question it's hard to do that if you boxed into an area to be boxed in a little area.
David:So when you boycotting, Well, and also, I mean, if we're going to get onto that, how do they nonviolent protest now? I mean the cat's out of the bag, I mean it's, it's, it's over with now.
GC:Right.
David:Right, I mean yeah, but that's, that's not here, or?
GC:there.
David:Because yeah, that's already started. This is, but I gotta say I mean he. So he was an amazing man, oh my.
GC:God Came down here.
David:So when's the Salem? I mean, obviously I'm a white guy descended from. My parents were in Ohio. You know, I lived in Michigan. Not a whole lot of there's a course racism in the north. That's obviously but but where we were from, you know I wasn't from the Detroit area, you know. So you come down here. And here's the thing when I first got here in 1983. I, I was only five, but I do remember going to school, and even my parents they were kind of surprised because in 1983, President Reagan, I died your favorite your favorite person.
David:So he he actually. But he did sign a bill saying, hey, this is going to be Martin Luther King. I was shocked. I know junior day.
GC:Yes.
David:And that was in 1983, but it it wasn't. So it was signed into law but it didn't go into observation until 1986. Right Now I remember my parents saying like oh, it's weird like no one celebrates it down here. North Carolina was actually one of the first to observe it.
GC:I didn't know that.
David:Yeah, in 1983, north Carolina made it a holiday, but it was unpaid, but it took effect as a paid holiday in 1987. And that's when schools started closing. But here's the thing I went to a private school. I don't remember mine closing.
GC:What? What private school did you go to?
David:I went to Clemens.
GC:I just went to a small little Christian school, Not a big beginners, nothing like that no no, no, I went to Our Lady of Mercy. Catholic school for two years.
David:But I don't remember I mean, that was gosh, that was so long ago. But I do remember that, not a whole lot, and you would know better than I would You're just a little bit older than I am that it didn't seem like MLK Junior Day was very widely observed at all.
GC:Oh no, but you got to keep in mind there was a lot of resistance to making that a national holiday.
David:It took two decades. It wasn't until 2000. Right.
GC:The Arizona was the last state to recognize it, which?
David:is weird. Why, why so racist in Arizona?
GC:Why is there racism anywhere?
David:Well, that's a very good topic for a different day.
GC:Yeah, I mean we could.
David:we could go all day about that, it's just funny though, because North Carolina, here we are, we're not deep south.
GC:Here we're, you know we're kind of a purple state. Sometime, sometime, sometime.
David:Yeah, but I was actually proud that they they took it on so fast. Yeah.
GC:Yeah, I mean man, like I said, we could go all day long about Martin Luther King Junior.
David:I mean it is, why don't we got?
GC:plenty of time. I'm just saying it was. The man was amazing. I mean just and, by the way, there's a play here about a little theater called Mountaintop and it features. I would encourage anyone to go see it, Look it up on the website. But it talks about Martin Luther King. If he had lived and gosh. It's a different perspective of Martin Luther King. This Martin Luther King you see in the play is totally different from the image you have of Martin Luther King. How do you mean?
GC:Well it's a lot of. I read the screenplay, I read the script because at one point I was, you know, I was told that I may have a do the part, play the part of Martin Luther King. So I read the script. It's a little more has. You know, he curses a lot in this and you know it's from the perspective of a woman cleaning a hotel or something like that. And he comes in and she's talking to him. Evidently she's like an angelic person coming to take him. You know say listen, you don't have much time, I'm coming to get you. And he has a conversation with her and he doesn't realize she's an angel. It was just kind of like an angel of death, yeah.
David:That's exactly what it is.
GC:So, yeah, I don't want to give too much of a way which I already have, but that's. The play is called Mountaintop and actually Samuel Jackson did the stage, did the play. I don't know if it was on Broadway, but Samuel Jackson played this part of Martin.
David:Luther King. I cannot see him. It was strange, you could pull it up on YouTube.
GC:It was really odd him playing Martin Luther King. First of all, he's too tall. Second of all, but you know Samuel Jackson is a Morehouse grad, like Martin Luther King was. So what are you going to do? What are you going to?
David:do. I don't see that portrayal, but I knew that he came to the South. I mean, you know about Alabama, you know about Mississippi, you know all this and it would take bravery back then. I think it's been so long now since he was murdered, since the Civil Rights Movement even though we're still having things going on today.
GC:Oh yeah, Absolutely.
David:It's not done by any means no, it's not even close. But I think we all take for granted how. Okay, so remember that day that we were talking, and I don't want to bring it up too much, but we start talking about the black Hebrew. Okay, all right, that's all I'm going to say, that's it, we're done. Good people, right, good people, but there was fear, right. It's like, oh, I don't want to talk about anything that could get me in trouble.
GC:There's a lot of that. There was a little feared room.
David:Back then in the 60s, you got a guy who's a preacher, who decides to take on not just the US government.
David:He's taken on all of white America who runs everything in America and while he was doing it peacefully and that takes man that I cannot even. I know other people have talked about it, but how much courage it would take to do it and then to know he came to these two places right here in town that I am I walk by there all the time, I see and I didn't even know he was there and this church still stands here, yeah.
GC:And, like I said, it's one of the biggest churches in Winston-Salem. And think about this it was said that when Malcolm X and Martin Luther King met each other and they shook hands, allegedly Malcolm X looked at Martin Luther King. You know what he said. You know we both dead men.
David:No, seriously. No, I believe it yeah.
GC:And Martin Luther King knew he wasn't going to live a long life and one of his speeches he said that All the greats did, though. I mean all the greats.
David:Think about Lincoln, martin Luther King Jr. He had a vision of his own death.
GC:She sure did. Jfk had a vision of his own death. Bobby Kennedy did.
David:I didn't know about Bobby.
GC:Yeah, bobby knew he wasn't going to live a long life. He knew that Because what he was doing, you know he was pushing. You know these guys, these guys changed people way of life. You know they shook up the status quo and so you're changing some way. You know the way people live. You mean to tell me I don't have to get off the sidewalk anymore when someone white is walking towards me, or especially if it was a white female.
David:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah my mom had a story about that when we first moved down here and I can't remember it too well, but apparently she was walking downtown and she was with my grandmother and they were looking for something. I think they were looking for the courthouse.
David:I don't remember what the story was. But they asked a guy he's on the road and of course he's black gentleman and they asked him you know, hey, hey, where are we going and you know how do we get this place? And he said he would take them, he would show them the way. But they started walking next to him. He's like you can't be walking next to me. Now this is in the 80s. What? Yeah, that's what the story was, that? But this guy was older, so I mean he'd been around, yeah.
David:I mean thanks. In the 80s they were still a little bit.
GC:It was sketchy back in the 80s. I mean you just didn't you know people were doing things behind, I mean literally behind closed doors.
David:Yeah, and you're only 12 years away from his murder, you know, in 1980.
GC:Oh, oh, oh, oh yeah. Okay yeah, I mean it was still, it was still. You know you couldn't do go certain places and dating a white girl. How'd you get away with that? Who?
David:me. Yes, bad ass. You having no one threatened you.
GC:No, no, no, Nothing, nothing, anybody, and please, that's cause everybody likes you. I don't know, I wouldn't go that far, but I mean I mean messing with me because of that is like shit, I don't know. Kicking a puppy, I mean you can do it, but why you know so.
David:Well, I think that's how most people would feel about their relationships with their life. What that like? Why mess with me? But you know, people mess with you just to mess with you.
GC:Oh, I know, and plus it didn't hurt the fact that I had a gun. So you know, there you go.
David:All right, then yeah. Well that, that, that, that, that. That cleared that up. Don't mess with the black man with the gun.
GC:You better believe it. Yeah, you know, I was taught by a police officer.
David:That was your dad.
GC:Yes, yeah.
David:But I just so. I just want to wrap up with this, um, because I mean, there's not a whole lot to say other than I'm glad that they have this observation day. It is weird, though, because they just picked a random day. It's not the day that he died and it's not the day of his birthday, just a random Monday in January.
GC:Let me tell you a story, a quick story, I was working in Atlanta and and I was doing some, some HUD work in Atlanta when I was with the city and so and HUD is, can you tell everybody, housing and urban development, and I used to be a fair housing investigator in a different life. So we had a conference in Atlanta and it was off of P Street Street and Sarah flew up to see me and we walked to Ebenezer Baptist Church and let me tell you, we walked in there.
GC:It was wide open, which is crazy to me, and Ebenezer Baptist Church is yes, this is where Martin Luther King and his dad, big daddy King, were ministers and Martin Luther King preached. That's one of the churches he was a minister of and let me tell you it was. It was like a light, a glow, and it was just Sarah and myself in that church and we sat in the front and they still have the podium where he gave some of his famous speeches. And it was just me and Sarah. I say, well, how profound is this. This is what this man, his prophet, was talking about. Sarah and I are sitting. It was just us and Sarah starts crying and she's like. This man made some of the most beautiful speeches and his words reached the world, not just the United States, around the world, and he said this would happen. Sarah and I sit in there and it happened. Yeah, I mean, he said it was gonna happen, it was inevitable.
David:And was his? Is it true that his I had a dream speech was he came up with it on the spot, that he kind of knew what he was gonna say. But then, he ad-libbed.
GC:Yes.
David:That is one of the most incredible things that I could imagine.
GC:Oh, absolutely. And it said that the sound system and the podium and the mic and all that was purchased by none other than Bill Cosby. That's the the what yes, what yes, they said Bill Cosby is the one who bought that podium. The number of business I mean, I don't know how deep in the rapes he was in, but you know.
David:Well, look for every devil, they have some good deeds, right? I mean, I'm not a perfect person, I'm not, I'm not Rufian people, but you know, I've done some bad things, right? Of course, we've all done some bad things.
GC:Well, I am being-.
David:Hey, let's just say that's one redeeming quality that America's dad had. He's the one who set up the podium. But in 1968, what was he famous for? That spy show. Yeah, I spy man that was a big deal.
GC:Yeah, but I thought that was the 70s.
David:I didn't know that was the 60s.
GC:Yeah, that was the 60s. That's how huge deal.
David:Man.
GC:You got a black man on TV in the 60s, and I think it was who else with him George Papard maybe.
David:Yeah, 18, 18.
GC:Yeah 18 guy. I could be wrong, but I remember that him and Dianne Carroll. Those were because we really didn't see black people on television. I mean I didn't-?
David:Yeah, what is that? You know? Because it's funny, because you get white people now we're getting off topic, but you get white people now who are like I don't wanna see we've talked about this before and then just throwing it up in our face. So there's all these black shows. It's like what do you think it was like for black people back in the 50s?
GC:60s, 70s, we didn't know any better. It's just like the Jackson 5 had a cartoon in the 70s which I loved, and now that I look at it it's so cheesy.
David:Of course it's cheesy, but you finally had like. It wasn't Lawrence Welk? Oh boy, let me tell you so. I enjoyed watching Lawrence Welk with my actually okay. No, I'll say this it's a cheesy, cheesy white white white bread show. But you know my parents, they loved it.
David:And so my memory well, because my dad liked big band music and stuff and so there was a lot of big band, some of the whitest singers you ever hear. Oh, I know it. So I mean, you see, you got Lawrence Welk on a certain time on Saturday night, or whatever it is. And then you got Laughin'.
GC:Yes, but then here you go, and then what would come on after that? I don't know it wasn't there Fucking he-haw, he-haw.
David:I used to watch that.
GC:That's right.
David:Of course I did. But the funny thing is so I'm growing up and the Cosby Show was huge. You know what?
GC:I mean, oh gosh yeah.
David:I loved. I remember it was already off the air, but I'm watching Good Times and.
GC:I'm watching Love. Oh yeah, the.
David:Jeffersons. The Jeffersons yes, nothing see. But that's what happens when you, when you take a kid and you expose them to that sort of thing early in life, when, like it's normal for me to watch the Jeffersons Good Times.
GC:You could thank Norman Mailer for that, by the way. Oh, yeah, yeah, Actually, yeah the yeah, it really.
David:I think it changes like it was not abnormal for me and that's why the world has changed, because of Martin Luther King Jr.
GC:Absolutely.
David:You start to have these shows. I know that those shows were still. What do you want to say? Were they slightly racist on these shows?
GC:Oh, good Times, Like Jeffersons, Sanford Son, Sanford Son.
David:Did they play on any stereotypes? That would be offensive nowadays.
GC:We didn't think so at the time.
David:I mean, it's just, good to see your own. That's what we were impressed with.
GC:And then you had after that Chico and the man with Freddie Prince, and so we really didn't think that and you know we were just glad, like you said, we were just glad to see someone that looked like us. Now you got to keep in mind all those shows came from All In A Family, so those were offshoots of All In A Family, right?
David:Which was kind of a racist show man, but it was intentionally.
GC:It was supposed to be that way. It was supposed to be where he was just a horrible, horrible man. He was the biggest. I think he was a bigger, bigger, bigger than you.
David:Come on man, people are gonna hear that I do say horrible things as much as I can. I'm trying to pull back though a little bit, because you know I used to joke all the time. But I told so. I said to Karma I said we got to make this show funny. I got to come up with some MLK Junior jokes, is it?
GC:too soon.
David:I said is it too soon? Yeah, so see, there's some things that are always going to be too soon for a white guy.
GC:Oh yeah.
David:Bill Burke would pull it off because he's Irish. And you know, and he's married to a black woman.
GC:Yes, he is, so he can pull it off Me.
David:I'm gonna lay off on the MLK Junior jokes. I have nothing but respect for him.
GC:Yeah, what's there to joke about, mlk?
David:Well, I don't know what was gonna come up with something, but I just didn't have that. The best joke I could have is is it too soon?
GC:Yeah.
David:That's a little cliche, but I am. I just was really impressed when you sent me the article today about what to talk about, and today was obvious that we should talk about MLK Junior and I guess I should say Martin Luther King, god bless you, god bless you. Yeah, I guess I should just say his whole name, because it's a little MLK. Let's talk about Martin Luther King Junior. He's got a street named after him in every town that you go to Sometimes two or three. There's a boulevard, there's a street.
GC:You have to notice that always in black neighborhoods, though right Well.
David:I have noticed that.
GC:Yeah, and that's, and the nicest one I've seen is in Wilmington North Carolina. It's a highway and it's right outside of Wilmington, like when you go into Wilmington North Carolina and shout out to my people in Wilmington North Carolina. When you go into Wilmington North Carolina from 40, you make a right and that long boulevard it goes from it starts like off a 20 something near the airport, something like that, and it's nice because there's nothing there.
David:Well, yeah, but then you go into. If you read the news and you watch TV in Winston Salem, mlk Drive is where all the bad stuff happens.
GC:Shooting shooting on MLK Drive. That used to be Claremont Avenue, actually.
David:Oh, so you remember when it was renamed.
GC:Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, you know, we used to. When I was in high school, we used to hang out at the Burger King behind the Neutral Building and we used to hang out in a parking lot and that's where it was at. If you, in high school, would you be doing this weekend headed to the Burger King? So that was Claremont Avenue and they renamed it MLK. I had a long. I was married by the time they did that, so I was back in the 80s. Yeah.
David:Well, I wonder why they named that one Cause. That is a very it's not a bad neighborhood, but it's a bad neighborhood.
GC:It's about to be gentrified. You know that right it will.
David:Yes, they are buying up all the houses.
GC:Yes.
David:They are slowly getting changed.
GC:Yes, I'm gonna let you know. East Winston, like Harlem, new York, you are about to be gentrified.
David:Well, yeah, yeah it is. I mean, and look, I'm all for improvements in the area, but those landlords that were slumlords, you know they should have done improvements years ago. But the rent is so cheap, you know but, here's the thing rent ain't cheap. No more, no Down in that area.
GC:Cause, you know when I was living in the lofts, you know oh yeah, you were living downtown and ooh, the nice part. Yeah, but when we would go to the food line of 311, you could see the changes. They're building these apartments which three-fourths of the people who live there wouldn't be able to afford to live in. So they're building that for white forest. You know, because you have the med school over there and innovation quarters.
David:Innovation quarter yeah.
GC:So you know that is expanding. So where the Burger King which is a Popeyes now where we used to hang out in that parking lot, those apartments are coming, I mean they're moving back towards that Burger King and moving into East Winston Cause I saw the strangest thing. I was going to the grocery store, my grandson and I saw a white dude walking with a backpack, going towards the Burger King, going towards East Winston. I'm like what? It was just strange to me.
David:I'm like oh, I was like you're not supposed to be here. It's like a black man in Buena Vista.
GC:Yeah, exactly, exactly.
David:Isn't that the stupidest thing though?
GC:What.
David:Well that somebody could be just walking in a nice neighborhood and if you're of the wrong color, everybody's watching you, you know.
GC:Yeah.
David:White or black. If you're a white guy, cause? Look, I told you the story where I was. You know I go down MLK, I have a friend down there and maybe the long story short, he's a guy. This is gonna sound horrible. I have a friend down there, but he does my laundry. So, Of course he does Look, but we're friends.
GC:I actually really care about this guy. It was just, like you know, when the women were maids. She's just like family.
David:Right, okay, well, anyway, I really care about this guy. He's a good friend of mine, he's a good man, very good man, and he lives down there and he's a very nice gentleman. But everyone's wondering when you're down there. So when I first started going to see him see, when I first started dropping off my laundry I'm like the story short he used to have a location to where I would drop it off.
GC:Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's back up.
David:Okay.
GC:Because people get the impression that your clothes you're talking about for your job.
David:Yeah, yeah, yeah for my job. Yeah, let's just. I'm sorry about that.
GC:Make the decision. You dropping off your drawers, so somebody Thank you for making that distinction.
David:That I my underwear I wash myself or I make my girlfriend wash them. So oh shit, oh shit. Why'd I say that? No but I do my own laundry. But yeah, for my job I have tons and tons of sheets to have to be washed, so I'll take them down to him. Because he got screwed by a landlord, because what happened is he was down there on Acadia that he had that little corner laundromat.
GC:Right. I remember that he fixed it up. That was him Right.
David:He fixed it up. It got so nice that the landlord was like you know what it is so nice. Now that you fixed it up, I can get better rent, get out.
GC:Damn. Can you believe that?
David:That actually happened. So he struggled for a while. He got this, so now he's working. He does a different job, but he still does my laundry for me because he's a nice guy and I would go down when I first started. Going down to Martin Luther King Drive, like down Third Street, you cross over Martin Luther King Drive and you go over to the other side. Right and people look at me funny Like why is this guy here?
David:And you know I'm in a little light blue Scion TC at the time and they're like why is this little crazy, little white? Guy and they'd watch me, you know.
GC:Like you get out of the car.
David:Now, as I would hang out there longer and talk to him, and I'm standing out in the street, yeah, then people start being friendly to you. You know like, hey, what's going on, so it's all fine, we're all people.
GC:Right.
David:But there is a thing about separate neighborhoods and that's what you know. One day it's all gonna be mixed in once. We get all the beige babies.
GC:Yeah, yeah, I mean, will we see it in our lifetime? I don't know, I think we will.
David:But you think so. You said you're gonna live to 150.
GC:20. 120.
David:Yeah, you'll see it, I'll be dead in 10 years, so I won't. Oh, okay, All right, All right. So hey, On that note, On that note, happy Martin Luther King Day Jr. Happy Martin Luther King Jr Day everybody, and I hope that even I am next year I'm a little more aware of the day, Because today I didn't even know it was Martin Luther King Jr Day until I got to work and I realized the bank was empty.
GC:Yeah, sure, and then I realized.
David:So I would say everybody be more aware. There are a lot of events out there that you can go celebrate his life yeah. And here in Winston-Salem it's a big part of the history. It is and that is what we're trying to point out that if you get a chance to drive by the Golar Metropolitan AME Zion Church that is still there, have a little nod to history that that great man once stood there, yes, and changed history. Preach Winston-Salem, we're part of it, yeah, so all right now Good deal.
David:Let's move on. We have a segment I think you all remember and you know what it's time for. It's time for the dumb shit. Yeah, woo, woo, yes, yes, time for that dumb shit. Here we go. Gc is gonna give it to you All right, what we got going on today. Okay, no, let me get your microphone up. Go ahead All right, thank you.
GC:Now I want you to know. This is the problem.
David:Okay.
GC:No, I'm serious.
David:Yeah, everything's a problem. It is All right, what's?
GC:the problem? Listen to me. What's the problem? Today, A woman in Canada was sleeping in her bed and all of a sudden I'm not gonna take too long on this, but I just want you to know this can potentially be very, very dangerous. So a woman was sleeping in her bed in Canada, right, and her name is Stephanie Moore Stephanie, I hope you're doing well. We wish you the best and all of a sudden, her roof caved in on her. Nah, someone who had a tree.
David:What Just like you.
GC:Yes, all of a sudden her roof caved in, there was a hole in her ceiling and the insurance company came out. You know they did an assessment and they say you know it wasn't because of trees, it wasn't because of meteorite, it was. They could not figure out, but they've narrowed it down. And you know what they think caused this and people should be aware of this it was blue ice.
David:What? What is blue ice?
GC:What is blue ice?
David:Yes.
GC:Okay, I'm glad you asked my friend. Blue ice is frozen. Doo doo, that comes from planes.
David:No, no, you're talking about the blue water. Yes, it's frozen, doo doo. So that's what hit her.
GC:And if you're sleeping most of the time when frozen, when blue ice comes down, it'll dissipate before it hits. Then, you know, because they're so high up, so they release it. You know, because they're about to land, they want to, you know, get the weight off the plane. So usually it's harmless. But this time I guess the weather and it was cold and it was big ball of ice and it went through a roof. Now you sleeping in your bed with your woman or whoever your significant other, and you got a big ball of doo doo that comes down on your on your head. Now, no, no, no, no. The Canadian airline said hey, listen, you can't prove that it was all doo doo.
GC:Yeah, you know, it could have been because you know, a lot of planes fly over her. We got DNA and doo doo.
David:But that's not gonna. If you check the DNA across the passenger list, somebody on that plane that day did a doo doo, but you don't know where, back in the plane where it came out of, though you don't know which plane.
GC:It could be an American, it could be Alaskan airline, it could be wait.
David:So they're suing that specific airline, canadian airline.
GC:Yes, it was Canadian airline and they issued a statement and they said they were going to. A spokesman for Transport Canada said they were looking into the claim. She said the department takes all reports of possible debris that's what they call it, instead of doo doo coming from the aircraft very seriously. Every report incident is investigated by Transport Canada. Official Canadian aviation regulations forbid creating a hazard by dropping waste mid-flight. She added. So they're saying they're gonna investigate it and she's saying, no, you know how else did it happen. So I just want people to be aware of what's going on.
David:So this doo doo is released out of the plane and it freezes on the way down gets so heavy. Yes, okay, so I just saw a video where they threw a cup of coffee out the window to show how cold it was in the Midwest right now. Right, it was on the news, it was on, I don't know what it was on.
David:It was on one of those Sunday morning shows, and when they throw it out, it just vaporizes, it turns into like dust. It looks like dust, but when they do the well one, why do they even have a door that will allow doo doo to get out? Because they have to dump that. Why do they have to dump it? Because, yeah, why can you not wait until you get on the ground and then just suck it out like a normal person?
GC:I think they do that too, but sometimes it gets out. I don't know how it gets out, but it gets out. But you knew how to keep in mind. If you're 35,000 feet up in the air and you let this water come down, it's gonna turn into a ball of ice, especially if it's a big old log.
David:Yes, I've seen some baby arms come out of people.
GC:Well, I act like I've looked at other people's stuff.
David:Okay, I've seen some baby arms come out of me once upon a time, oh, nice, but so what I'm saying is Jesus Christ.
GC:So what I'm saying is that this is the problem D. Now you can look up the statistics on how and how many times this has happened, but you see, you never heard of blue ice. I'm teaching you something. No, you know what.
David:This might be the first time that I can say you know what this might be a problem. It is Because I don't want someone to dump their blue ice on me when I'm just walking down the street Exactly. Well, how do you feel about when they dump fuel, though? Because they dump fuel all the time.
GC:Like an emergency. They don't fuel and that's toxic, man it is. It's bad for the environment. So it was dumping doo-doo. I mean you know that can't be good, oh man, but you're 35,000 feet and they expect it to. You know what I would like to do? I would like to get someone here. This is what we'll do. We're gonna get someone from the airlines to come in here and explain to us how the fecal matter dissipates before it hits the ground, because most of the time they say it's harmless.
David:Well, yeah, if it's urine, because it'll it'll. So what happens is, if you dump fluid from that height, there's so much air in between molecules, a lot of it's going to get absorbed.
GC:Okay.
David:And it'll. It'll aerate, sure, and it's going to dissipate. The problem is is, if you're low and the temperature's low, you know, say you're not at 30,000 feet, say you're at 10,000 feet, sure, and then you drop a log. It's not just urine, it's not just blue water.
GC:Oh, I know that's what they're saying. That's like a giant. Yeah, you having a picnic with karma right Chilling. We do that every once in a while. Okay, you outside and you get pelted with blue ice. Well, now are you suing? Yeah, are you with you?
David:really If I know where the airline it was, of course. How bad did it hurt me? Did it just get on me?
GC:But this, this, this right here, damage this woman house.
David:Okay, yeah. Well then I would say she's got a claim because there should be a protocol for airlines where you can dump your doodoo.
GC:And then think about this she could have gotten hepatitis C through.
David:E Well, I mean come on.
GC:Come on.
David:She'd have to be like opening her mouth and getting a lot of it Do you know how disgusting that is.
GC:Yeah, you, you, you, both, you and I pretty much. Well, I think me more than you German folks.
David:Well, yeah, I am a German foe, but I am never. I have. I have heard of them dumb and feel I did not know they could dump. Now you know, on the old trains, when you were driving on a train back in the old days, okay, when you would flush, it just went out onto the track, like you didn't have a tank.
GC:I knew that, yeah, yeah, they would just open right up.
David:So you never want. You know that whole thing. Hey everybody, you want to go see a dead body? Or stand by me, then I can find dead body as fast as they're going to find doodoo on the track. They're going to get hepatitis.
GC:Those little kids. You know my, my buddies and I, when we used to go, when kids play it outside, we used to walk on the train tracks and that was the biggest deal. I mean we loved that. Now that I think about it, I was stepping in.
David:You were stepping in doodoo, but I mean that's when we're for passenger trains. I think now they don't do that anymore, like I am tracking stuff, but back in the old days.
GC:Oh, I know, I know.
David:Back in the old days it was just they just dump it right on.
GC:Yeah, I just thought this was a good PSA for people. That is a good PSA To know.
David:And so, in the spirit of the new year and we're talking about, um so, winston-salem stuff, I got a little story for you, okay, and this is this is also. This is a problem, gc, this is a problem. We got a problem here in Winston-Salem.
GC:We got a problem, all right.
David:So uh, was it yesterday. What is today, the 15th?
GC:All right.
David:So I think it was yesterday In Winston-Salem a man was arrested after allegedly stealing a school bus in Winston-Salem At about 410 pm, sunday this is according to uh myfox8, by the way, dot com. At about 4 pm, 410 pm, sunday, police responded to a report of a stolen school bus. Investigators found the bus on Peters Creek Parkway, which is very close to both of us.
GC:Right.
David:And tried to pull the bus over. The driver, however, did not stop, Instead driving over the median into oncoming traffic. It drove for about a mile before crashing into a field. No one was injured, so here's my question Okay. I got a question for you. How high, oh, I was about yeah, how high do you have to be to steal a school bus and not stop for the police and drive it into a field? What is going on in?
GC:Winston-Salem. Look it, look it. Uh, you had to be really high to steal a school bus first of all. And you mean allegedly, allegedly, what do you mean? That somebody stole the bus and for what I understand he was winning to oncoming traffic, right Uh?
David:yeah, and he, his police, say Joseph, spain hour, spain hour, spain hour. Was behind the wheel was the only person on the bus charged with felony larceny of a motor vehicle, felony fleeing to a lude and multiple chapter 20 violations. The side of the bus reads Carter G Woodson School. Oh, that's the charter school. Yes, oh man so dude one where to get the keys, unless he's the bus driver.
GC:Right.
David:And like okay, you want to steal a vehicle man.
GC:You want to steal a vehicle.
David:Who the hell steals a school bus man.
GC:Who steals a school bus? I don't know, because it wouldn't have been me, because I didn't like school from day one.
David:I don't know, but he didn't even stop man like the police. Woo, stop, hey, stop, stop, stop the bus yeah how do you get him?
GC:well, how did it get them to stop Did?
David:he like, did he go?
GC:into a field. Yeah, he crashed it. He crashed it. Yeah, son of a. You know what, how?
David:high. How high do you have to be to steal the school bus?
GC:You want me to say it?
David:Yeah.
GC:Yeah, say it. How high do you have to get to steal a school bus? You know what he was? All right, you ever done shrooms.
David:Oh well, I don't want to say that on air.
GC:Oh yes, Maybe I have Allegedly.
David:Yes, allegedly, I have done shrooms.
GC:Well, I mean, that's really shroomy right there to take a school bus.
David:I mean on the magic school bus. That's like, what's the song? The yellow bus.
GC:Magic bus, magic bus by the who, yeah, yeah.
David:That's what he was doing. He was taking a magic bus. Great song by the way Great song, by the way, yeah. So hey, I think we did it man.
GC:I think we did, man, but I just want to say thank you and I look forward to another year.
David:I do too, and, hey, I would love it if you would tell everybody our website and how they can get in touch with us right now.
GC:It's about GDTIMSHOWCOM.
David:And please send us any suggestions. You have. We are going to start doing interviews with local people. We want to hear your stories. We want to talk about you. We want to make fun of you as much as we can. Today was a little more reverent because I couldn't make any jokes about MLK Jr because I'm white. Yeah, if I was black, it's still.
GC:It's still too soon. It's just not the right thing to do. It's just bullshit.
David:But we would like to start having people on who have great stories. We already have some lined up for you. But, if you have any suggestions, please and remember to leave us a review and give us a five star. Four star how many stars?
GC:is it? I don't know Make sure you like us.
David:Give us a thumbs up, subscribe, do all those things. Find us on YouTube.
GC:Exactly. And then look, we're coming to a bar near you, we're going to wait till you get good and drunk and we're going to do interviews, all that stuff.
David:Oh yeah, I'll have to be drunk because I'm shy. I'm very shy in person.
GC:No, I'm talking about people. We're going to pull people off the street. Oh God, yeah, we're going to randomly interview people. It's always fun when you have Fakot.
David:What's Fakot?
GC:I don't know.
David:That sounds Yiddish. It is a little Yiddish.
GC:Oy vey. Yeah, it's a little Yiddish. Remind me to send you something about some New York Jews, a sect of New York Jews. I think you're finding it interesting.
David:Okay, Well, I would like to send it to all of our listeners too. All right, so we're going to let you guys go. We're at about an hour right now. Thank you for listening. This is going to be a great season. We got a lot of new stuff, new platform for you to listen to. We're also going to have some new music soon, because this little garage band outro that we've been using is a little tired. But I was just. I was too lazy to get to something new but I'll do something new next time.
GC:These are going to write us something. It's coming, I am it's going to be rap, right, oh, but we're going to have that tight stuff, man, I got you, brother, I got you. Do you want some country?
David:Hell, no, no, I'm going to write you like a Swifty type song, no, oh well, you got to watch out.
GC:I ain't saying about the black Hebrew Israelites. You don't say shit about Taylor Swift.
David:Yeah, swifty is a common thing Swifty is she's the power. That's why I'm going to write a song like her.
GC:I'm kidding. Maybe that's why Travis can't catch it, but you know that's different.
David:Every day, trav. I'm just kidding, bro, just kidding. No, trav, he's really serious, all right. So here we go, I'm taking us out. We'll see you next week. Uh-oh, I keep forgetting to do the volume button Ready. Yeah, just notice, your shirt says FDNY.
GC:This is about to fly in doo-doo baby.