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EP #6: Unlocking the Medical Miracles of CBD: A Dive into Its Uses, Studies, and Personal Impact

• Marilisa Lawless • Season 1 • Episode 6

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Embark on a journey with us, Marilisa Lawless and Jeremy Wolf, as we navigate the potent landscape of CBD's medical uses. Since hemp's heralded legalization in 2018, we've sifted through the maze of CBD companies to spotlight those that truly shine with US-based, third-party testing. We strip away the fog around CBD's non-psychoactive reputation and dissect how it contrasts with its cousin THC—sans the high. Our discussions are fueled by groundbreaking research, like the pivotal New England Journal of Medicine article affirming CBD's benefits, which mirrors our own findings and bolsters the narrative of CBD as a medical marvel.

The conversation gets personal as we share stories of CBD's impact on our lives and the lives of listeners, tackling sleep disorders, anxiety, depression, and the beast of chronic pain. We're not just talking anecdotes here; we discuss concrete studies underscoring CBD's potential to alleviate symptoms of PTSD, cancer, schizophrenia, and ADHD. It's a world where medical professionals are increasingly embracing holistic health strategies, and we underscore the vital role they play in integrating CBD into well-being regimens. Grab your earbuds and join us to understand the burgeoning role of CBD in health and nutrition, and discover why it's grabbing the attention of more doctors every day.

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Jeremy Wolf:

Welcome to the Hemp Del Soul podcast. All health, no high. Here's your host, Maril isa Lawless.

Jeremy Wolf:

Hello everyone out there and welcome back to another episode of the Hemp Del Soul podcast. I'm your co-host, Jeremy Wolf, joined by your host, Maril isa Lawless. Marili sa, I say this every time we do a podcast it's always a pleasure, but it truly is a pleasure to be in your presence. You bring such a wonderful energy. I could be having the darkest day and then I get into your good graces and I feel it just picks me up. So you're an uplifting spirit, Maril isa.

Marilisa Lawless:

Thank you, that's nice to hear, I know. I try to keep a smile on my face and or the sparkles in my hair. Keep other people smiling.

Jeremy Wolf:

Very good, good stuff and thanks Thanks, as always, to our listeners for tuning in to learn more about CBDs and other other items related. So, with that said, I know you wanted to talk a little bit about the various medical uses of CBD for humans. I know we talked about for pets before. We talked about a bunch of different topics, but why don't we get into some of the the core uses of CBD?

Marilisa Lawless:

Awesome, Awesome. I look forward to it. There's so much controversy around it, you know so there is.

Marilisa Lawless:

I have trouble advertising. I have so many issues related to hemp and since 2018, when they passed the Farm Bill and they made hemp federally legal as long as it was less than 0.3% THC Delta 9, people have been trying to figure it out. So and I think I mentioned before we went through about 400 different companies before we settled on the one that we started with, and we've branched out and, through research, we carry a couple of companies, products now, just products for different different things. Part of what I wanted to start with is FDA approval. It's something that people ask about because it's not a food product and it's not considered a drug. You don't need FDA approval, but we also have to say it's not. You know, cbd or hemp based products are not meant to cure, diagnose or treat any specific medical illnesses. That's the one caveat that we have to say. So the things that I've experienced with my clients and customers have, you know, are anecdotal studies, but, knowing who I am, I do a lot of research, so I'm always looking for something current and December an article came out. So one of the things when you're looking at the medical community, cannabis is still the term that most people use.

Marilisa Lawless:

Cannabis covers marijuana and hemp. They're cousins. So cannabis, I guess, is like the parent or grandparent, and it is. Marijuana is primarily Delta nine THC, which is what's on the federal level, what they're looking for. Hemp is primarily CBD. So that's where you see the distinction between the two plants. And they're both plants, so they're both natural. They can be chemically recreated, that kind of stuff in a lab. However, most of the products out there that are third party tested I don't know that we can tell the difference between one that's a lab made versus nature made. We have to go on what the what the companies say. So the companies that I use are all US grown. They're all manufactured in the US. They're, you know, produced and manufactured and shipped out in the US. They're not coming from another country. So there is some testing that's going on at those farms.

Marilisa Lawless:

The New England Journal of Medicine because I'm also a psychotherapist, I look at the medical side of things. So the New York Journal of Medicine is it's a big deal. They're one of the biggest research gatherers for medical information in the country. When you wanna know something medically about what's going on, check with them. So I happened to do just that. I pulled up an article that was just published last month, in December, so that's kinda cool. So what I ended up getting was that in 2023, december 2023, they came out and said CBD basically, cbd is awesome, one of the things they say people wanna know about psychoactive effect.

Marilisa Lawless:

When you hear a psychoact, most people think getting high. So Delta 9, which is in marijuana, is what you get high with and it's a different kind of psychoactive experience. So any chemical, any food, any product that you take in has a psychoactive effect. It can affect your mental wellbeing, your mental, the chemicals in your brain. So what they found in this really new recent article and it's awesome that they found this, because I was excited so what they said was it is a psychoactive substance, it is. They're saying that it is an anti-psychotic, that it is a. So they used anti-psychotic, anxiolytic, which means it's anti-anxiety, so it helps with anxiety and it is non-euphoric, meaning you don't get high. So they use the term psychoactive, but it doesn't mean you're getting high off of it. It means that they're also looking at it as an anti-psychotic, which I was. That's the first time I've read that and, again, this article just came out last month.

Jeremy Wolf:

That must be really validating for you to read an article like that, because this is something that you've been doing for so many years and you've known all these things from your interactions with CBD and your clients and all the research that you've done but now to see it kind of validated by an actual you said the new and the new.

Marilisa Lawless:

It's kind of cool and it's a doctor out of the University of Maryland who did this study. So, yeah, I was really excited about that, because the other articles that you can find when you're researching the effects of CBD or CBD versus SSRIs for those who don't know what SSRIs are- Are those like antidepressant inhibitors, Like antidepressant medication or SSRI inhibitors right?

Marilisa Lawless:

Well, they're called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. It's what the Prozac family, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Luvox, I mean there's a whole list of them but they're job is to block the absorption of serotonin so it floats around in your brain a little bit longer, so the reuptake is slower. So what they know and what there is in 2021, no 2014 they had a study. It was a small study, but in 2014 they found that it that CBD increased serotonin, the same as the antidepressants, yeah, and so they have been watching it and I've seen it with other, you know, with customers and with clients. It is been known to Increase serotonin, the same as the medication. So I've had clients have actually stopped taking their medication when they're taking CBD Because the CBD doesn't have the negative side effects. So a lot of the SSRIs have sexual side effects. People don't want to take them because of that. Well, the CBD doesn't have that impact. It has been shown to decrease anxiety and decrease depression. So a couple of research studies. Again, the World Health Organization in 2021 came out with another article and they said yes, absolutely, you know it helps, it's helping.

Marilisa Lawless:

Oh, that was the other thing. The Jama article said it also works as an analgesic. Analgesic is a pain reliever, it's what Tylenol is, or aspirin, or they've. So some of these articles that came out in 2021 we're talking about how they have been doing. They've got small studies that they've done decreasing addictive qualities, decreasing opioid craving. With the opioid epidemic, that's huge, huge. So World Health Organization came up with some different things. Yeah, it was like all this stuff was just like this is awesome and yeah, so I'm all over the place, but I mean, there's so many good things coming out.

Jeremy Wolf:

No, what I was thinking was it's amazing how the stigma of surrounding the whole drugs drug explosion of the 60s kind of demonized all these Substances that have such unbelievable implications for mental health. Yeah, I'm speaking specifically about CBD, even cannabis I know we're not talking about psychoactive drugs but even people micro dosing psilocybin and things like that. There's all these things that are now it feels like. Feels like what's the word I'm looking for here? Help me out. It feels like.

Marilisa Lawless:

No, it's coming out from behind closed doors because the government's been researching this stuff forever. Yeah and the government and the pharmaceutical industries are a lot in they're. They're in bed together a lot of times Because of you know, the lobbying and everything else.

Jeremy Wolf:

Yeah right, like who's to say? Who's to say that, like a chemical Created in a lab that tweaks your brain, chemistry right is any better or worse than something that grows naturally? And I argue to say that something that grows naturally in nature is probably going to be better than an artificially manufactured Chemical in a lab.

Marilisa Lawless:

Yeah, absolutely so. World Health Organization. In 2021, they came out to say in humans, cbd exhibits no effects indicative of abuse or dependence, no dependence potential and to date, there's no evidence of public health related problems associated with the use of pure CBD. So I was like awesome, and that was out in 21,. You know? And then they had. Who was it? Oh, national Institute of Health, it was another one. So they said that one of the things they found is that it was an observational study on people taking CBD that had pain issues, sleep issues, anxiety, depression. So they found that it had real world positive impacts, that it decreased people's anxiety. There was one study where they said that 60 to 70 percent which is more than most medications it decreased moderate to severe anxiety by just taking CBD for a period of four weeks. It wasn't something that happened overnight.

Jeremy Wolf:

No quick fixes.

Marilisa Lawless:

No, all good things take time.

Marilisa Lawless:

Well, it was they did. They tested people at four weeks, six weeks, six months, three months, six months and then onwards after that. And the CBD for most people has an impact with the first dose. But, like any supplement, you got to figure out what dose works best for you. So every, every single person, every single person, is different. There's no cookie cutter method, you know, and other than the fact that CBD is well tolerated, it's got a good safety profile. There's nobody that's ever overdosed or tired. The only side effects that anybody has ever had from just taking CBD a negative side effect for some and not for others is sleepiness.

Jeremy Wolf:

Yeah, it's another thing that helps folks that maybe can't sleep at night. Instead of taking a sleeping pill, you know, take some CBD. I mean, there's so many different uses. You talked about anxiety and stress relief. Just mentioned sleep disorders. Then we had we did another segment on epilepsy and seizures.

Marilisa Lawless:

Yeah, the origins of CBD and people people use with Charlotte's Web. So in 2019, I mean they're still doing animal studies, but they their study found they said it was a smaller study, so they're still doing more research that it had a fast acting effect as an antidepressant, because most doctors will tell you antidepressants take four to six weeks. People were having benefits within days from taking the CBD. So that that was another thing. On the National Institute of Health. There's all and there's all kinds of. There's all kinds of companies out there that are doing testing. There's a couple hundred different places that are doing testing right now. So there's a lot more to come, a lot more.

Jeremy Wolf:

Yeah, I mean I could. I could speak from experience with having taken CBD versus an actual antidepressant pill, like a pharmacological pill, and the differences are so profound in how it makes you feel like like the, the antidepressants. When you take those and you get on those, it really re rewires your brain significantly and you got some very interesting oftentimes negative, side effects. I've never had any negative side effect whatsoever with with CBD, so it's certainly something that you there's no risk in trying if you struggle with these types of things or any of these symptoms, just to see if it's something that could ultimately help you and avoid you having to take a hardcore antidepressant.

Marilisa Lawless:

And some of the studies that are going on right now. They're actually looking at it to treat post-traumatic stress, sort of like they are with the, the psilocybin and that whole family. But post-traumatic stress, cancer, schizophrenia, cognitive, apparent ADHD, parkinson's, I mean there's so many different conditions that they're trying to figure it out because of the amount, because there's so few side effects. I mean, and with any supplement that you take you want to, nobody wants side effects, nobody. Nobody wants to have a negative attached to what they're taking or what they're doing. Yeah, no. So I get excited when I'm looking at research and again, most of the stuff I've been able to say has been anecdotal stuff. The people that come in that talk to me that will say, hey, it's helping me do this. I've had friends that were on opiates that have gotten off of their pain pills.

Jeremy Wolf:

That's amazing.

Marilisa Lawless:

Yeah, it's really awesome. So I'm looking forward to more research, more, more, more, and I am all for. I'm all for government regulation as well. Some people might think I'm anti-government, but I'm not. I'm for the regulation because with the regulation, you know, there'll be uniformity.

Jeremy Wolf:

Yeah, it seems like CBD falls in like no man's land but because you have this intense focus on actual cannabis Right and then on the other side you have the FDA that regulates actual food and human consumption, and then CBD is kind of falls somewhere in the middle and because there's so much a stigma attached to the cannabis on whole kind of falls on to CBD and there's just a huge misunderstanding and it's great that things are starting to change and it just comes down to education, that's all.

Marilisa Lawless:

Absolutely, and we are definitely big. I tried to be a different kind of store. I want to educate people. I want to get out there and talk to people about what this is, what it does and why it might be helpful for you, and also to be aware that CBD, like any supplement, doesn't help everyone. Every person is different. There are some people that it may not work at all and there are some people that swear by it, up one side and down the other. It really is an individual thing and yet the best part about it is that it does no harm to try it. It doesn't have any overt contraindications for different medications. Of course, like everything you check with your doctor, it's most of the time it's doctors who are recommending that their clients try this. It's more than 50% of the time it's oh, my doctor recommended that I try it.

Jeremy Wolf:

Really, I wouldn't have thought that I was actually going to ask that earlier and say are there doctors? Going to start recommending this.

Marilisa Lawless:

Yeah, no, it's kind of interesting. No, it is mostly doctors who are recommending it, so it's kind of cool yeah people tend to listen to their doctors. It's sort of yeah, yeah, that's always questionable. I just said my doctor was saying she says she'll call in prescriptions for people and they only she says statistically 50% of them actually pick it up.

Jeremy Wolf:

Oh yeah.

Marilisa Lawless:

Yeah, they've done all kinds of studies about people that pick up their medications versus don't. She says only about 50% of the people actually pick up their prescriptions. I'm like that's interesting that you're actually calling it in for people or doing for people. And she says, yeah, it's national studies, that's interesting.

Jeremy Wolf:

That means folks have lost faith in the medical professionals of today, which is kind of a shame, because you go, you want to go to a doctor and you want to know that if they give you a prescription or something, it's important to take that because it could be a serious condition that you're having. But you should be picking and choosing what you want to take. They should not prescribe you something unless they're saying okay, this is something that you should definitely be taking.

Marilisa Lawless:

Absolutely.

Marilisa Lawless:

I mean there are some doctors that are overly like here, take this, here, take this. But when doctors are actually recommending vitamins and they're recommending nutrition and they're recommending doing other things for your health besides, just here, get a script. Yeah, hey, that's good stuff. Absolutely. I like seeing doctors like that, that there's more of them in the world today than they're you know. At least I'm hopeful that there's more coming.

Marilisa Lawless:

Well, anyway, that's my little spiel about the medical side and why I think CBD or hemp-based products in general are good. You know that some of the research, even with the topicals because there's topicals, there's capsules, there's oils that you can take, there's massage oil I mean there's so many different types of hemp-based products you know the topicals work really well for specific pain spots. That was another article neuropathies. You know neuropathic pain and that the topicals work better than the, than the ingestibles, you know. So I mean there's a lot of different stuff that's out there and a lot that's coming. So I'm really grateful for the platform to be able to like try and get some of that information out there.

Jeremy Wolf:

No, it's refreshing and clearly you do your research and this is very, very helpful for folks in the community and beyond. So, unless you have anything else to share, let's wrap this one up. Yeah, awesome, yep, we're good. All right, everyone, thanks for tuning in and we will catch you next time. Everyone, take care and have a wonderful day.

Jeremy Wolf:

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