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Can a birthday be a game-changer in your life? Tune in to hear our whimsical musings on everything from navigating the tricky waters of remembering family birthdays to the quirks of sharing names with our great-grandparents. With a delightful mix of heartfelt stories and comedic mishaps, we paint a vivid picture of our unique family traditions and the importance of July and October in our calendar. Ever wondered what it's like to be exactly 21 years, one month, and one day apart? We'll share how this fun fact and our birth years—1996 for Hannah and 1975 for Davey—have shaped our perspectives.
Navigating summer birthdays can be a mixed bag of emotions, especially when friends are away on holiday, and travel costs soar. We fondly recall everything from modest McDonald's celebrations to extravagant themed parties at the Fun Time Factory. Whether it's an 18th birthday in the Peak District, a 19th at an alpaca farm, or a memorable 13th in Crete, we explore how our birthday preferences have evolved over the years.
Taking a deeper dive, we discuss emotional maturity, self-awareness, and the importance of standing up for oneself—complete with a Tesco incident that tested our self-confidence. We'll also touch on the celebrities who share our birthdays and the intriguing birthday paradox. From milestone birthdays like 13, 18, and 21 to the joy of gift-giving and the possibilities of future digital celebrations, this episode is a delightful blend of nostalgia and forward-looking reflections. Join us for a heartfelt and humorous journey through the birthdays that have shaped us.
Send us a Comment, Question or Request, we'd love to hear from you
Can a birthday be a game-changer in your life? Tune in to hear our whimsical musings on everything from navigating the tricky waters of remembering family birthdays to the quirks of sharing names with our great-grandparents. With a delightful mix of heartfelt stories and comedic mishaps, we paint a vivid picture of our unique family traditions and the importance of July and October in our calendar. Ever wondered what it's like to be exactly 21 years, one month, and one day apart? We'll share how this fun fact and our birth years—1996 for Hannah and 1975 for Davey—have shaped our perspectives.
Navigating summer birthdays can be a mixed bag of emotions, especially when friends are away on holiday, and travel costs soar. We fondly recall everything from modest McDonald's celebrations to extravagant themed parties at the Fun Time Factory. Whether it's an 18th birthday in the Peak District, a 19th at an alpaca farm, or a memorable 13th in Crete, we explore how our birthday preferences have evolved over the years.
Taking a deeper dive, we discuss emotional maturity, self-awareness, and the importance of standing up for oneself—complete with a Tesco incident that tested our self-confidence. We'll also touch on the celebrities who share our birthdays and the intriguing birthday paradox. From milestone birthdays like 13, 18, and 21 to the joy of gift-giving and the possibilities of future digital celebrations, this episode is a delightful blend of nostalgia and forward-looking reflections. Join us for a heartfelt and humorous journey through the birthdays that have shaped us.
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Speaker 3:Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
Davey:Happy birthday I knew you were gonna do that, did you yes oh, it's another episode of bonus dad, bonus daughter, and today we're going to talk about birthdays yes, if you are listening to this and it happens to be your birthday. Happy birthday.
Hannah:Happy birthday and if it's not your birthday, listen to this podcast when it is your birthday, so we can wish you a happy birthday on your birthday Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Yeah, so this episode's about birthdays. Yeah. We are exactly 21 years, one month and one day apart.
Davey:We are indeed in life yes, yes, yes, because my birthday falls in july. Yeah, and your birthday falls august, august, august the 17th. Yes, you looked at me then with eyes of like devil eyes.
Hannah:Get this right, boy it's because you always confuse it with your brother's birthday.
Davey:Yes, because my brother's birthday is August the 19th.
Hannah:Yes, so you often think mine is the 19th.
Davey:You know, July in my family is a very big month for birthdays.
Hannah:Oh really.
Davey:Yeah, because my brother's on the 10th. Yeah. I'm on the 16th. My dad's is later on that month.
Hannah:Oh, no, oh no, sorry, denwey.
Davey:I think it's the 31st. I am crap at dates. You know I'm crap at dates, so yeah, so I know that me, my dad and my brother are all July.
Hannah:There's a lot of October birthdays.
Davey:There is. So your mum's is October the 8th.
Hannah:Yes, that is correct, that is correct.
Davey:Yeah, do you know how I always remember your birthday, how you remember your mum's birthday? Go on, right Now, this is going to be really weird. So I remember our anniversary and your mum's birthday, because all I have to remember is 8 and 9.
Hannah:Okay, okay, yeah.
Davey:And the theory goes, because your mum's birthday is the 8th of October.
Hannah:Yeah, oct means 8.
Davey:Oct is 8, although it's the 10th month. Yeah, it's, oct is 8. 8. So that's all I have to remember 8. 8th of October. Yeah, yeah, our wedding anniversary is the 27th of September.
Hannah:Mm-hmm. 2 plus 7 is nine. Yes, ninth month, yes, very clever.
Davey:Two plus seven is nine. Ninth month very, very clever that's all I have to remember. But yes, yours is the 17th. Oh, who else? Yeah, because um amanda's birthday's in october as well, isn't it, my sister? She's the third yeah, and hills and then on uh nana as well and you're not yeah yeah, hills is a bit later in October yeah, because they always do a sisters thing on their birthday, don't they, which is really sweet.
Hannah:My brother-in-law is also October as well. Yeah.
Davey:Sharon, amanda and Hillary, all kind of yeah cute, they do something sisterly love, sisterly time. They often do something like go down to London see a show or something like that. Do something. My grandmother's is October as well.
Hannah:Oh really.
Davey:Sure, it is you sure. Yeah, oh no, that's Halloween. Oh you cheeky. No, no, no, I didn't. Oh, no, genuinely. I didn't mean it like that. No, no, because I think hers is. She doesn't listen to this podcast. I thought it was like the last day in October, but no, I think her birthday is the last day in September.
Hannah:Yeah.
Davey:And I just had Halloween in my head then as being October as well. No, no, no, that sounds awful, doesn't it? No, no, yeah, it does.
Hannah:It sounds so bad.
Davey:I didn't mean it like that at all. I didn't mean it like that. My grandad's was the 3rd, or it was the other way around, do?
Hannah:you think it's odd that my name is the same as your great-grandmother and I was also named after my great-grandmother, who was Grace. That's quite weird, isn't it? That is quite weird, isn't it? Yeah, I've never really thought about it before. Yeah. So had I been your biological child, my name still might have been Hannah, although that wasn't a real name. No, no, as it transpires, as it transpires, but that's a whole other story. That's what she was known as.
Davey:Yeah, her name was Annie. Yeah, her real name was Annie I didn't find that out until I did my ancestry thing. Yeah, I found lots about my family.
Hannah:Yes.
Davey:Yes, funky Irish Anyway. Yes, yes, funky Irish, anyway, moving on.
Hannah:I have very Irish features myself. Well, the ginger hair, red hair green eyes, yes, yes.
Davey:So what year were you born, hannah?
Hannah:I was born in 1996. I am a millennial.
Davey:And I was born in 1975, which means I am a Boomer Gen X.
Hannah:I'm not a boomer I'm so against being a boomer.
Davey:Yeah, yeah generation x we're the best generation.
Hannah:I took with a forgotten generation okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah uh, we invented avocado on toast, so smashed avocado.
Davey:I took the liberty we invented the art of not caring.
Hannah:Okay, get it, your generation was better, yeah, anyway, I took the liberty of researching what the highest grossing toy was. Yeah, in 1975. And then I also done it when you were 10. Then I done 1996. And then when I was 10. Yeah.
Hannah:Just because I feel like 10 years old is kind of the toy age. I don't know why I picked 10, I just thought that would be interesting yeah 10 is where you remember things uh or start to remember things. Um, and I just, I, I wasn't, yeah, I wasn't sure if you'd remember it. So anyway, in 1975 the highest grossing toy was the lego basic set.
Davey:Yeah, that surprises me really that does.
Hannah:Did you have lego?
Davey:uh, yes, I did have lego. Nice, I did have lego. Yeah, I used to make lego guns lego guns.
Hannah:Yeah, you just like build the bricks up and then like do what and then play guns, and play guns with them.
Davey:Yeah, with lego that's cool. Yeah, but lego back then was very basic. Well, it's a le, a Lego basic set, but it was. I mean Lego now as it's moved on.
Hannah:You have actual sets.
Davey:You can build a helicopter.
Hannah:You can build a well, you can build anything, really.
Davey:Your imagination.
Hannah:Did you hear?
Davey:that story about Ed Sheeran. No, the first thing he bought when he was I might have got this wrong. I can't remember how much money it was that he earned, remember how much money it was that he earned, but it might be if I say it's his first million, okay, but I might have got that wrong, okay, but it's definitely said. The first thing that he bought for himself when he got to a certain point was a death star lego yes, good for him yeah good for him.
Hannah:So 10 years later, 1985, the highest grossing toy was transformers and it was optimus prime, specifically okay, had a megat had a Megatron.
Davey:A Megatron. Megatron was great because Megatron was a gun. What I know it's a theme. Yeah.
Hannah:Gun culture is alive with you, isn't? It. Yeah, if you've watched our travel episode, we talked about gun culture in America when we went to America.
Davey:And how much I was scared by it, yeah.
Hannah:and now, as a kid you were like gun crazy.
Davey:Yeah.
Hannah:You've changed your tune.
Davey:No, but I remember Megatron was quite because Megatron was a gun, but I remember he's Megatron, megatron. But he was quite awkward to transform. But Optimus Prime was a lot easier.
Hannah:Oh.
Davey:I wonder if therestreak as well.
Hannah:Did you have Bumblebee?
Davey:I did. I did have a little Bumblebee yeah, bumblebee's the best. Yeah, I had a little Bumblebee.
Hannah:I feel like Bumblebee is like he's kind of like the unable-bodied Transformer because he lost his speech. So he talks through the radio, so there's a part of him that's really endearing, because he can't speak bumblebee.
Davey:Well, bumblebee was like the little brother he's like the little, slightly damaged one. Yeah, I think that's really cute.
Hannah:He's lovely anyway, in 1996, um, the highest grossing toy which would probably be no surprise to any one of my generation was the barbie. Yes, I, I did have a Barbie, although I have to say I wasn't really into it.
Davey:You never really played with dolls.
Hannah:No, I'm not a dolls person, barbie. So I had a Barbie. I remember it being particularly at my dad's house. I remember the Barbie being there, but I don't think I ever had one with you guys. I was much more into stuffed animals, I would say, and much more into animal side of things rather than I was like human dolls and I never had like a baby growing up either, like one of the Annie dolls.
Davey:No more tears. Not no more tears, that's. Johnson's. Johnson's shampoo, baby shampoo. No more tears.
Hannah:Yeah, I never had any babies or dolls or anything like that. When I was a little bit older. Mycene was a thing that took on Barbie and then several other characters. They were called Mycene. They were kind of what was the Bratz? You had Bratz dolls with the big head and the thing, and then Barbie was the more slightly proportionate, I guess, doll at the time and they were part of a group. And then you had Mycene, which, like barbie, and then several of her friends of different ethnicities and different body shapes and stuff which was quite cool at the time.
Hannah:Anyway, uh, that wasn't in 1996. But yeah, barbie was was the top grossing, but um 10 years later, in 2006, um was the doctor who cyber man mask. Do you remember that? No I do I do remember, so I don't. I didn't own it, so 2006,.
Davey:Would that be about when Doctor who got rebooted? Yes, the first time when Christopher Eccleston played Doctor who. Or are we now going into Matt Smith, david Tennant territory?
Hannah:No, I think it might have been David Tennant. No 2006 might have been Chris. Eccleston actually I'm not sure. But yeah, that was definitely the reboot. No-transcript. You could put money in it, so it would count the money that you'd put in it. It could read that it was a pound that you put in, or 20 pence or whatever. It was a little robotic dog and it used to bark and stuff.
Hannah:I think it was a money box alarm like a timing alarm, and it was in the shape of a dog, um, and yeah, that was really, really popular at time.
Davey:I didn't have one, but yeah, yeah, something I just remembered randomly, so I guess so just we had because we had a little bit of a conversation in the in the car. Just something I want to pick back up on yeah and we discussed because our birthdays are both in the summer.
Hannah:Yes.
Davey:Yeah, and we had a little bit of a conversation. I thought we should stop and carry on the conversation.
Hannah:On air.
Davey:On air. How do you like having your birthday during the summer?
Hannah:I hate my birthday for many reasons. I don't really like being center of attention, but also the time of year that I was born, in August. It was great when I was at school because I never went to school on my birthday, but what came with that was everyone was on holiday on my birthday, so I never got to spend it with my friends anyway. And now as an adult, as someone that can travel and can go away if I want, to go on holiday on my birthday.
Hannah:it would be super, super expensive because it's summer holidays. I can't go to any theme parks, which I really love, because it's summer holiday, so they'll be, super busy, so my birthday is rubbish I hate, my birthday so much, and I think ever since I turned 13, I've hated my birthday and I and honestly I would rather people not even even mention it Like I don't want any cards or presents anymore. I'm getting to that point in my life where I just don't want any fuss at all anymore.
Davey:Okay, so so on your 18th yeah, that was different you still hold that against me now I still hold that against you now eight years, nine years later yeah, but also at the same time.
Hannah:I think that's another reason why I don't like my birthday, because things are just happening in the summer, so there's no point in celebrating you've ruined my birthday. No, no, I wouldn't say you've ruined my birthday, but there is one thing about my birthday that I do like.
Hannah:I have a very, very lovely friend that was born a week after me and we sometimes do something together and I much prefer that than a party or the gifts or the cards or anything like that. I hate it all. I'd rather just go out and do an experience yeah just call it. So we went to a spa, which was so lovely, and I know this. This particular friend, vick, does listen to this podcast, so shout out to her. We do share a very similar birthday. We're a week apart hi vick hi, vick um, and yeah, we um, I really really treasure like our birthday together but, otherwise I hate celebrating my birthday, I'd rather it just not exist.
Davey:See, I'm the same in that I don't like big fusses made about me and it's quite bizarre, and I'm going to say I don't like being the center of attention, which is quite strange considering I perform on stage and, yeah, I quite often am the center of attention, but in that setting, when it comes to people celebrating me personally, no, I don't like it, I hate it, I feel really uncomfortable and I don't yeah, I genuinely don't like it. Uh, so, to me, my birthday always has been just another day and I think, as you get older yeah, I don't know when you get to the point where, because you, you look forward to your birthday as a child because, oh, it's my birthday, it's my birthday.
Hannah:I remember distinctively not wanting to turn 13, I do remember that I remember I I don't know where I was or what I was doing, but I remember having a conversation actually with with my paternal grandmother actually, and saying you know, I, I don't want to be 13 I don't want to.
Davey:Didn't you want to be a teenager? Was that what it was? I?
Hannah:think so maybe yeah yeah, I wanted to maybe hold on to that youth a little bit longer. I'm not really sure, like I don't really know what was going through my head at 12th, but it was a long time ago now. But, yeah, I I remember distinctively not wanting to turn, and I'm really not looking forward to 30 either. 30 is not that bad.
Davey:40 was a little bit, I must admit, when I when I turned 40, I was a little bit god, I'm an adult now.
Hannah:Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm not even a fake adult now I'm an adult.
Davey:I have to start growing up. And now I'm knocking on 50s door I'm like, oh yeah, I really don't knock, knock.
Hannah:Yeah, I'm not yeah.
Davey:I'm not that keen. Yeah. I'm not that keen, although I did have a bit of a bonus last year because I thought I was a year older than what I actually was.
Hannah:Oh yeah, I remember that yeah.
Davey:Yeah, I'd done the You'd goofed. Yeah, I'd done the maths in my head wrong and thought I was 49 last year, when no, hang on 2024 yeah so what? You're 49 this year. I'm 49 this year. Yeah, but yeah, I thought I was already 49.
Hannah:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, a bit of a bonus there yeah, you gained a year.
Davey:Yeah, um, but I actually used to like having my birthday in the summer why tell me?
Hannah:tell me the good points again part of that reason.
Davey:We're not wanting to be the center of attention, whereas if I remember when everyone had their birthday at school, it would be a big thing oh yeah.
Hannah:What was the thing about schools when the person's birthday, that it was brought in sweets for everyone else? Oh, we do that at work yeah, but the thing is like it's your birthday, they should be bringing you sweets, not the other way around we do that at work.
Davey:Yeah, we do that at work. It's like, yeah, they have to bring in the cakes. No it should be the other way around. Anyway, yeah, random yeah.
Hannah:It's my birthday, yeah have some cake? Yeah, when did you when you had a birthday, when you were younger? How did that work? Did you have your school friends over? How did that come about? Did you go out for the day? What was like your thing? No, no. What did you do for your?
Davey:birthday. I don't really remember much about birthdays growing up. It wasn't really kind of celebrate Again. Like I said before, we didn't have a lot of money, so I couldn't really afford to have big parties and things like that. I did have one.
Hannah:And I think I was probably maybe six or so.
Davey:I had a few school friends come over and I was still. I couldn't have been six or seven, I must have been about five. I must have been five years old when the first, when they came over. But yeah, I think that was the only one, although I do remember, and I remember people of my generation will remember this seven okay so maybe I'm just wondering if I had a.
Davey:Maybe it was a fifth year birthday at mcdonald's and the sixth year party at home and then moved up to sleaford when I was, when I was that age. But yeah, other than that, that's. That's all I kind of really remember. Remember, um used to have a lot of family come over for my birthday oh yeah that's quite a big, quite a big family when I was quite young. But yeah, as far as big parties and things like that, no, not really so much.
Hannah:I remember having a party at my Nana's. I'm very grateful that she owned a big barn. Yeah. Which she still has, but it's now rented out to other people. But in that barn I remember they put a bouncy castle in there, so we had a bouncy castle. It was like an inflatable. It wasn't like a commercial bouncy castle, it was sort of like a kid's back garden bouncy castle.
Davey:Yeah, yeah, just a little one yeah.
Hannah:And I remember school friends, I'm certain, were invited to that one, so I do remember that. And then anyone that lives local to Norfolk, and specifically Wyndham, attleborough way, would know what I'm saying when I say the fun time factory. It was a children's play center, uh, and there was certain rooms that you could allocate for your birthday, um, that were themed differently, and I had the sea room, so that was I remember that yeah there was like seahorses and it was all like fluorescent lighting, wasn't it?
Davey:and they would glow in the dark seahorses fish didn't you wear like a green sequiny type dress that day? I couldn't tell you I'm sure I've got some photographs of you and lucy and a few others and you look so small I wouldn't have known lucy, then wouldn't you no? Would that have? Been pre-lucy so so, before you went, that was primary school, primary school, so ellie would have been there. Ellie would have been there. You're getting confused between the two.
Hannah:Yeah yeah, so fun time factory. And then, as I got older, I think it was more just, uh, as I think I've mentioned this on the podcast before, particularly on our travel one, um, for my 18th, because you weren't there, um, um, I went I was at a gig.
Hannah:I know you're at my noise, it's fine um no, I spent the time in a hot tub in the peak district. I think it was. Uh, I can't remember if it's peaks or lakes now, but it might have been lakes actually. I think we had a stop off in between, but, yeah, spent pretty much my 18th in a hot tub, which was lovely. I uh, there's another birthday. I remember you took me to the alpaca farm that was awesome, brilliant birthday I got to hold a baby alpaca yeah, so cute I love alpacas, um, so that was a good one.
Hannah:I think that was my 19th yeah, I think that was yeah went out for a meal with uh for my 19th as well. Uh, my then very good friend, who is now my husband, went to that party and we went as friends, which was which is hilarious to think about now. Yeah, and then I I'm struggling to remember a lot of other birthdays other than Crete. I remember we've mentioned it on another podcast.
Davey:We were that was my 13th, so yeah, the the Irish bar in Crete yeah, you said you thought it was called Paddy's and I said no, it wasn't called Paddy's. And I said no, it wasn't called Paddy's. I went home and your mum said it was called O'Reilly's and I went no, it wasn't called O'Reilly's.
Hannah:It was O'Neill's.
Davey:And it came to me and it was called Dwyer's.
Hannah:It was called Dwyer's.
Davey:It was Dwyer's.
Hannah:Haha, even the fact check O'Reilly's and I just went no, it wasn't, it's funny that we all like Irishy names.
Davey:I know it's like we're terrible, yeah but no, it's cool, it was Dwyer's. It was Dwyer's, yeah but yeah, I remember, because we got you your um cake out. You got your cake out there, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Davey:But other than that, I don't really remember a lot of my other birthdays, unfortunately, yeah yeah, well, when I was growing up I'd um, so I think a lot of people have got this story as well. So there was a it's not there anymore, but in Sleaford there was a wine bar called Miller's and it was like the place where we always used to go. So when we go like uh, used to go out in Sleaford, me Miller's was. It was like a really nice place, but it was also quite quite pubby as well. Millers was, it was like a really nice place, but it was also quite, quite pubby as well. And we would always go to Millers. And I'd been drinking in Millers Wine Bar since I was 16. And I remember going in on my 18th birthday and the landlady coming over to me and just dropping a pint down on the desk and just going. You little shit, I'd been drinking in there for two years yeah.
Davey:Yeah, and then went and celebrated my 18th birthday in Miller's Wine Bar.
Hannah:I don't think you'd get away with that more these days now.
Davey:No, I don't think you would, because we have like ID and stuff yeah.
Hannah:You might get away with it in a very, very local pub. Yeah. A local like small town pub, but you definitely wouldn't get away with it in a city like Norwich.
Davey:No, oh God, no, no, no, but my birthday was obviously in July and my friend Dom's birthday was in August. Ah, so we used to celebrate birthday month.
Hannah:Nice.
Davey:It was an excuse.
Hannah:Yes.
Davey:It was an excuse Over that summer period.
Hannah:we were Like I've got birthday week.
Davey:You've got birthday. We had birthday month and it would start off on my birthday and finish on Dom's birthday and we would go out pretty much for that entire month and celebrate our birthdays. Yeah, yeah, so we did that from the ages of I don't know what would have been what 16 to the age of when, when I left sleaford, which was 21, 22 I think, when I moved back to norwich yeah.
Hannah:So you know, I don't know, I went alive or was I just yeah so yeah.
Davey:So my 18th birthday I actually spent in miller's wine bar nice, that's, that's where that's where I spent my and then went off to legends, I believe when did you?
Hannah:what birthday was it where you felt, yeah, I'm an adult? Now, I don't think I am yet no same, but you're older than me, so yeah, I know I just, yeah, um, I do.
Davey:You know, I think, and I know this is going to be one of those comments where people say, oh, everyone says that of your generation, but we go, we did go up very quickly. So I, when I say I don't ever remember being a child, that's probably more like it I always feel that I've been an adult, even from a very, very young age I think legally in the uk generally they think you're an adult at 21.
Hannah:Would you agree? Maybe 18 at a push?
Davey:I think it's changed.
Hannah:Yeah, I think it used to be 18, so it used to be but I think it's kind of more 21 now, which is kind of american even 25. Some people say yeah, you know because I imagine, like I mean, I did buy my house at 22 and I'm very lucky to be able to do that and I understand that a lot of people would not be in that position.
Hannah:However, that made me an adult, so I think there's a lot of things that happen in your life, and it could be anything from buying a house to the loss of a loved one can sometimes make you grow up a lot quicker than sometimes your peers around you of the same age and I think there's certain things that will happen in your life that will age you more than anything.
Hannah:and I have to say when I got married last year in last February, the term wife feels like it's aged me like I'm a wife and I feel older because I'm a wife, which is silly because I'm the same person. But I feel like it's aged me a lot and now that there are people around me pregnant and having children of my age. Now that's aged me too Like I'm old enough to have family members or friends around me having babies now.
Davey:And that's just. That's bad. Yeah, that is bad. I'm old, well, you say, because I mean you're, you're 27 and you know, even like my mum and dad, I think my my mum and dad got married when they were 20 yeah you know, and I I was then.
Hannah:I then came along hello, I think it's like you know, my mum was 21, when she had me we've talked about this in our family marriage podcast like ages and ages ago. But like you got married, you felt late in your life when you were, and I'm the one of the first of my friends to get married at uh, at 20. How old was I last year? What?
Davey:am I now 27 at 27?
Hannah:you know so it's. It's weird how that dynamic has sort of changed. But yeah, it certainly has aged me oh, yeah, yeah being married and owning a house and owning a cat and, yeah, I think like medically wise, I feel old as well, like there's certain parts of my body that are not working as they should as a 27 year old, so I guess that's aged me as well.
Hannah:I don't know when I felt like an adult. I learned to drive quite late in life as well, like I was uh, 19, 20, and I remember as a child thinking, oh, I'll be an adult when I'm driving my own car yeah, I, I do.
Davey:You know what I think being being with you as you were growing up that must have aged you a little bit, made you mature quicker. Oh yeah, that sounded really rude, but that wasn't my intention yeah, no, I think I think there was a point, probably when you were about 15. Yeah, probably about 15 or 16, I think.
Hannah:At one point I just thought actually you know, I'm an adult, you yeah, with a teenage child no, no, no, no.
Davey:I'm talking about you, oh me. You kind of changed, growing up to your mindset of being a little bit more worldly yeah and I think it's yeah you think 15, I think early yeah, I think 15. You started to really kind of under not not the sense or to really understand concepts of the world and start to have this gonna sound awful.
Davey:I'm not doing it like this, I guess puberty maybe, yeah, possibly, when you hit puberty and you kind of you not changed, but you just kind of you were much more grown up, I think.
Hannah:Yeah.
Davey:Because I've always had grown up conversations with you, ever since you were really little.
Hannah:I think the reason behind that is I don't have any siblings and I think another. You know, I grew up being in mum's salon yeah having to behave and and talking to adults all the time and not having younger siblings as well.
Hannah:I didn't really have any communication with children other than at school yeah, I felt like I probably had to behave and be well spoken and understand things as slightly beyond my years, not saying that I wasn't able to be a child because I was, but at the same time I knew I had to be respectful.
Davey:I knew I had to be um, I had to behave because that was my mum's workplace yeah um, so I don't know if it's that that influenced my slightly maturer thinking yeah, and I think yeah because you were having, because you were having conversations with like myself, because you didn't have any siblings to play with, so you were with us all the time and I've never spoken to you like a, you know, that kind of childish way. I've always spoken to you as an adult, ever since you were little, and we've had those conversations.
Hannah:I've always actually felt slightly wiser beyond my years yeah um, and I've always felt that I had my reactions to things in life on a psychological level as well, I would say are different to most people. My age and that's not saying that people around my age are immature and I'm not saying that I'm mature but I seem to not take things at heart as much. I don't seem to hold on to anger as much as my friends I don't hold on to you can step back and look at things, yeah, you can look.
Davey:You can look at the whole situation rather than getting too emotionally attached to something, and I'm not saying I don't get emotional, because obviously oh god, you do absolutely I do you know, but that's a part of being human. Yeah, and.
Hannah:I don't think there's anyone that can say they can be completely detached from an emotional situation.
Davey:That's just silly, no.
Hannah:We're human, that's what we do.
Davey:Exactly. Fish slices in the drawer gets me emotional.
Hannah:Exactly. I just do find that sometimes my reaction to things compared to my friends is yeah more measured measured more calculated calculated, maybe I think about it a bit more I don't know I don't know my friends are probably going. Nah, that's not true.
Davey:But no, I think, because, because you always you when, when you were little, you always used to listen a lot. You always used to listen I am an active listener. Yeah, but I think it's when you were kind of like say, yeah, probably, probably, maybe 14, 15, 16 you started not not answering back is the wrong word but you started coming back with your own real thoughts and ideas.
Hannah:Yeah, yeah, and I can be quite strong with them, and we actually had a conversation in the car just a minute ago. I know that some people have mentioned to me that I'm easily offended, and I would disagree. I'm not easily offended, but I will stick up for myself. And there's a difference, I think, there. I don't get easily offended by things because most of the time, I'm quite blasé about things. If something happens, I'm like, oh well, that's that, someone's being a little bit wrong or a bit shitty, but also I can, on the other hand, dwell on things a little bit longer.
Hannah:You're a redhead I am a redhead and I can be. On the other hand, dwell on things a little bit longer. You're a redhead, I am a redhead and I can be fiery, but then am I fiery and a redhead, and then.
Davey:I blame it on that, because I am a redhead. Self-fulfilling prophecy?
Hannah:Or am I just a normal human that reacts in a normal emotional?
Davey:way, I think you're just a normal human who just reacts in a normal emotional way.
Hannah:But I will stick up for myself. I'm not the sort of person that you're a strong independent female yeah, I will not.
Davey:And I'm very proud of you because of that I will not be used as a doormat.
Hannah:I will not be trodden on um.
Davey:I will say my piece and you do, and I've been in your presence when you have said your piece yeah, um like remember the time in tesco's no oh for the cashier yeah, no that, yeah, wouldn't let that one slide most things I let.
Hannah:I am, I can be mature about that and let things slide, but there's some things that I'm just like, no, I'm not going to do that I was shocked.
Davey:I was absolutely shocked.
Hannah:You tell the story.
Davey:I was dumbstruck. Normally I would have said something, but I was absolutely dumbstruck. So myself and Hannah were in was was Tesco, yeah, and we were in the queue in the shopping putting stuff on the conveyor belt and obviously Hannah's my daughter, yeah. So there is a 21 years one month and one day age gap between us, and I can't even remember what the cashier said. What was?
Hannah:the comment she said. She said age is just a number.
Davey:Yeah, that was her.
Hannah:Suggesting that we were a couple yeah, yeah, yeah.
Davey:And how did you react?
Hannah:I just said, come on, dad. Very loudly, and the look of pure shock on her face was enough to give me the gratification that I needed.
Davey:Yeah, and you know but she said it in the kind of like almost accusatory accusatory, as though I was some kind of predator or yeah.
Hannah:Yeah, yeah absolutely yeah and yeah, and I get it. I get the confusion, but there's no need to make a comment like that yeah especially in front of the people as well, have a little chit chat afterwards about it oh, do you think that was her dad, or do you think that was a boyfriend or whatever? Yeah fair enough, I don't give't give a crap because you haven't said it to my face. But to say it actually there, and then have enough malice in you to say something horrible. Yeah, I just couldn't.
Davey:Yeah, you can.
Hannah:I weren't horrible about it.
Davey:I was just like come on, dad, let's go. You were just very direct. You were just very direct and you said of people heard it?
Hannah:yeah, I did, yeah, you did come on dad, let's go yeah or you don't get away with that yeah, yeah that's another. That's that's. I wasn't offended yeah I just think that she was in the wrong for for saying something like that horrible. She could have kept it to herself I was genuinely shocked yeah, I was just like what, what, like yeah yeah so to avoid any confusion, I straightened it out. Yeah, and. I'm happy to do that. I'm happy to step in, yeah.
Davey:Going back to when we were in the car early on, you asked me a question or you said a comment, and then you said I'm not going to discuss it now, I'm going to discuss it when we talk about it on the podcast. And you said who you shared a birthday with, because you wanted to see my genuine reaction. Do you remember?
Hannah:who I shared a birthday with yeah oh sorry, as in celebrities, as in celebrities. Yeah, yeah, yeah so so I yeah, I share my birthday with two very famous people okay one of them's a sports personality, so you, they're a footballer, so you may not know them.
Davey:Unless it's gary lineker, I'm not going to know who it is well, I'm pretty certain you've probably heard this name. Okay.
Hannah:Thierry Henry.
Davey:Oh, thierry Henry, yes, yeah, yeah.
Hannah:So we share a birthday.
Davey:All right, okay, which is fun.
Hannah:And also very famous actor, and I'm pretty certain he's a famous director as well. But please correct me because I know you will. Yeah, robert De Niro share a birthday. Really. How cool is that? That's pretty cool, yeah, yeah, is he a director as?
Davey:well, yeah, he's a director. Yeah, yeah yeah, he's a director as well.
Hannah:Yeah, so yeah, robert De Niro, no one else that I you talking to me. You talking to me. I looked at the list of people that share a birthday with will ferrell yes, which you don't like?
Davey:I've said before. I mean, I'm sure he's a very, very nice man, but I just, yeah, I yeah, yeah, yeah I'm not a fan of his movie or his characters. His style of comedy isn't. I don't like it, apart from, like I said in one of the other podcasts, the um beer advert, which I thought was genius. Other than that, the anchor man, that type of stupid, the, oh the ridiculously stupid over the top, yeah, I don't like it. I'm sure will.
Davey:Ferrell's a very nice guy but yeah, you share a birthday, share a birthday ironically share a birthday with the one person who I have to turn off when he comes on. Telly Elf is the worst film ever made.
Hannah:I agree.
Davey:It is the worst, absolute worst.
Hannah:So why do you think people attach so much importance to their birthdays? Do you know what I?
Davey:think it's tradition.
Hannah:Yeah.
Davey:I really I think it's just tradition.
Hannah:Yeah, we're fuelled by society that celebrates a birthday. Yeah. I mean there are some cultures and religions that don't, For example, Jehovah Witness. They don't celebrate birthdays, they don't celebrate Christmas. They don't celebrate several things actually, but yeah, maybe it's. I think for some people like being the centre of attention and that's obviously perfectly fine as well, and their birthday maybe is the only way to have that day.
Hannah:That's all for them and special to them, which I'm definitely not going to begrudge anyone from doing. Um, and I think, particularly like I, I can imagine, as you become a parent, your, you know your I guess your day is maybe becomes a little bit more special because you know you can spend it with your, with your children, and you put a lot of focus on your children. It's probably nice to take a step back and have a day to yourself maybe.
Hannah:Yeah, that's the way I see it, but as someone that doesn't have children, or maybe never will have children, it's it's quite apparent to me that I just couldn't care less about my birthday I'd rather share it with someone like I do, and if I had a niece or nephew born on my birthday, oh god, that would be the best thing ever, because they'd get all the attention and I'm like yes like share a birthday. I'd love that, but um, have you heard about the birthday paradox?
Davey:the birthday paradox it's.
Hannah:It's a mathematical thing, basically, but it's very common in families that children like um, like big families, for example, sometimes will share birthdays. Oh, okay. And there are certain birthdays, even though you could say it's complete chance when conception and birth but, there are certain birthdays or dates within the year that are less popular than others for people to be born on.
Davey:Oh, I have heard about that. Yeah, yeah, yes.
Hannah:The paradox is that I think it's one in I want to say like one in ten. I should have researched this beforehand. One in ten people will share a birthday within their social circle or something like that, which is crazy.
Hannah:And I can attest to this because I know three people born on the 26th of April, one of them being my husband, one my stepbrother and another friend as well, born on the 26th of April. How mad is that? One my stepbrother and another friend as well, born on 26th of april yeah, how mad is that we know two people born on the 12th of may. Uh, we know, uh, you know, mum and nana.
Hannah:They were born two days apart yeah, yeah they could have been very easily like been born on the same day it is. It's it's crazy how close that work you said a lot.
Davey:Your family are in july yeah, they're all in july it could have easily happened.
Hannah:But yeah, and there are more popular days than they're not. I know so many people born on the 24th of um december 26th of december that's a really common birthday, but 17th of august really uncommon, yeah, really uncommon, you're special I'm special. I didn't look up the 16th of july, sorry, but do you know there was?
Davey:really unpopular I remember seeing uh years ago there was a, there was a film and it was about a serial killer oh, lovely and I can't remember if it was a true story or if it was, it was completely made up, but I was.
Davey:I was very young when I watched it and it was set in america and it was after the third murder and they were trying to figure out what the connection was between the victims, because they were all different ages, different sexes, there was no coroner, it wasn't like all females, all males, all of a certain age. They couldn't figure out what the correlation was and after the third murder somebody went hang on, they're all born on the 16th of July. And I was like what? That's my birthday, what?
Davey:So somebody was going around killing people who were born on the 16th of July and I was like what?
Hannah:It's a bit close to home. Yeah, I didn't like that.
Davey:Turn that off.
Hannah:Yeah, I'm done now yeah.
Davey:We've already mentioned about where we were for our 18th 21st. There are significant birthdays, aren't there?
Hannah:Milestones.
Davey:Milestone birthdays, yeah, yeah, yeah, 13 is one, I would say, because you're becoming a teenager 18 is such a very strange age, Don't you think I mean sweet 16 as well, I think it's more, maybe more for girls than it is boys.
Hannah:I don't know why. But 16 just feels like a milestone in itself for girls. I don't know if it's because you're mostly like puberty wise, you know you've probably had your period by then, I don't know. So you feel like that's your womanhood, starting as 16. You know, obviously people start their periods at different times, so it doesn't really matter. But for me I feel like sweet 16 is definitely like when a boy turns 16, it's not as much of a big deal Sweet 16. Yeah, it's an odd saying, isn't it?
Davey:it does make me feel uncomfortable, yeah, yeah like there's still innocence.
Hannah:There isn't it.
Davey:Yeah, but not at the same time yeah but yeah, that makes me feel uncomfortable.
Hannah:Yeah, um, but 18, I think, in both boys and girls 18 is when you can drink legally in the uk you can buy a pint so I think 18 is the most laddish birthday. Can I say that laddish that's when you get your first point, like that's. Like that's how I'm doing in my cockney accent because I was like the accent. I don't know what that was. Yeah, it's just like. Oh yeah, I don't know like, and then 21st yeah, it's like that's when that's kind of adulthood.
Hannah:I guess in the UK we've talked about being 21. And then 25, I just want to. It's not an effective milestone.
Davey:No, it isn't. But I'd say 25 is a milestone because you're mid-20s.
Hannah:Well, 25 is when you can hire a car in another country as a UK citizen. So you can go to Europe and hire a car from 25 onwards.
Davey:So for me that feels like a very big responsibility but also isn't that I have like challenge 25 now, whereas if you look under 25. You're still the challenge of your age, that's true, that's a really good point actually.
Hannah:So, yeah, if you're in a supermarket, you're buying alcohol. If you look under 25, they will.
Davey:They will challenge again, that's subjective, of course it's subjective yeah, you could be a 16 year old with a full beard yeah you know, and yeah, we could be like paul rudd, never age yeah, exactly yeah, but then you got yeah, then you got like 30, 30, then it just goes up increments of 10, increments of 10, really 30, 40 50, 60, 70, 80, 90.
Hannah:Hopefully you get to. Hopefully you get to 100.
Davey:Yeah and then you get a letter from the queen oh no, no, he'll be king now, wouldn't. And then you get a letter from the queen oh no, oh, no, king, he'll be king now, wouldn't it King. Yeah, yeah, it's a letter from the queen yeah, letter from the king. Well, if I make it to 100,.
Hannah:It will probably be Prince William's son that gives me the letter. Probably Because of age.
Davey:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but 50 is a big one, isn't it?
Hannah:That's really weird to think about.
Davey:Why did?
Hannah:I just age that.
Davey:Yeah.
Hannah:Prince William's child, if I make it to 100, will be giving me the letter? Who's? The eldest, george.
Davey:Is it George?
Hannah:George the eldest, George, Charlotte and Louis right.
Davey:That's it, yeah. Yeah, george is the eldest, oh my goodness. That's really weird to never know.
Hannah:Could be. I hope not for the little boy's sake.
Davey:Yeah, you never know.
Hannah:Well, he could abdicate the throne, but I hope he doesn't pass on. Oh God, Every time we mention someone famous on this podcast, they die. So, I hope I haven't just killed off a child. God, I feel awful, gosh. Yeah, that's weird to think about.
Davey:But yeah, 50 is half a century, that's quite a big one. And then 60, I think is always a bit, and then I think kind of.
Hannah:It's like when you get 70, 80, 90.
Davey:It's almost like you peak and then you go down, doesn't it?
Hannah:It's like, yeah, you made it to 70. Yeah, you made it to 80. Yeah, you made it to 90. Yeah, so what about this thing about giving gifts for birthdays and cards? I think it's great for children. Yeah, it's nice having a day all to the themselves. As an adult, I really couldn't care less I couldn't care less, I really couldn't it feels weird if I didn't get you a gift on your birthday. It would feel odd I know.
Davey:But, hannah, I've said to you many times before, it really doesn't bother me to buy for as well, I know both you and mom because if you want something, you'll just buy it yourself exactly.
Davey:I'm not one for one, although your mom has bought me some pretty big gifts on my birthday. She has. I mean, when she yeah, when she bought my telecaster was, I was over a thousand pounds and you're lucky. Yeah, I went into cooks and joe was there, because when joe worked at cooks and he pulled out this, this just amazing telly, and I just fell in love with it. So, yeah, so I had, so she bought me that. She also bought me a new kayak a couple of years ago. Yeah, my birthday and my family did all club together and get me a barbecue.
Hannah:I was one of those family members. You were Together, by the way. Yeah, barbecue, I was one of those family members that worked together. By the way, I contributed.
Davey:Got me a big gas barbecue which we all benefit from.
Hannah:Yes, we do. You do make a good pizza on there, which? Is a bit odd, but it's got pizza there. Yeah, it has got a pizza stone.
Davey:Honestly, I keep saying to you, mum, I just don't.
Hannah:Have you reciprocated with big lavish?
Davey:gifts.
Hannah:No, you are a terrible gift giver.
Davey:we said it on the other podcast I am, but but again it's.
Hannah:It's like that thing where I just you know again, so if you tell me what you want, I will go out and get it yeah but don't make me think with with mum's birthday last year, we took her to an escape room because she kept banging on about how she hadn't been to an escape room yeah, we made that happen.
Davey:Sorry, I'm just laughing because the photo what photo?
Hannah:the photo, oh yeah, yeah we can't even repeat that on air no, we can't we can't even repeat, but there was, that's beyond our swear gate, that is, beyond our shit, but anything more than that, yeah, there's um, but we did an escape room for sharon's birthday and when we came out of the escape room we had a photograph.
Davey:Photograph taken and Mitchell, Hannah's husband, was wearing well, we were all wearing hats, weren't we? But Mitchell was wearing a deep sea diving bell.
Hannah:Yeah.
Davey:And it had like a curling kind of pipe at the top and he was standing in front of. If I say, if I just say escape hunt and is, yeah, we'll just kind of. But the hat made a c yeah, and he was just perfectly stood in front of this. It was completely by accident, but I had tears running down my face absolutely when I saw this photograph come out. It was hilarious, funny, it was incredibly funny. We did um, we took your mom to a musical as well.
Hannah:We did, and juliet and juliet yeah, that's the first time she'd your mum to a musical as well?
Davey:We did, and Juliet, and Juliet. Yeah, that was the first time she'd ever been to a musical in the West End.
Hannah:That was very cool. I very much enjoyed that day. We took her to London. Yeah. We kept that one a surprise. She knew she was going to a show, didn't she?
Davey:She knew she was going to a show.
Hannah:But she didn't go for the lion king. Yes, because she was.
Davey:I said to you not to yeah, yeah, she really didn't want to do that one. Yeah, it's fine, but it's good, wasn't it?
Hannah:and it was really really good yeah what do you think is how? How do you think with the evolution of technology and how things are evolving, do you think birthday celebrations will evolve as well, for young children and for adults in a virtual setting?
Davey:Oh, what you mean, like in the metaverse or something like that.
Hannah:Well, I was just thinking. You know, a lot of children play video games. A lot of adults play video games. It's not just exclusively children. But I'm wondering if there will be a time where children will just be like you know what? For my birthday, I just want to play games with my friends.
Davey:But yeah, just yeah, just online, yeah, yeah, yeah like oh, let's all meet up on fortnight yeah use that as an example.
Hannah:Fortnight at 2 pm on the my birthday and play games.
Davey:Kind of do that anyway yeah I suppose they do.
Hannah:Yeah, I mean because maybe that's how they want to spend their birthday, though yeah, I mean all right, because birthday for the parents as well. So I would encourage it if I were them.
Davey:I mean, I'm a little bit out of touch now because obviously you're 27, you're a lot older, yeah, uh, uh, and you haven't got children of your own. But I, I don't know what kids do for birthdays. Now what do they do? I know like from colleagues I'm just trying to think of my nieces and nephews.
Hannah:Yeah, yeah uh, trampoline park has been like. So more activities like that that we didn't have growing up yeah like we didn't really have trampoline park. We went bowling sometimes we did go bowling on occasion, yeah so I guess I think parents are turning to more activity-based birthdays and they are maybe gifts nowadays? Yeah, I might be wrong, I don't have children, but it just seems like, oh, we're going to do the trampoline park for our birthday, or we're doing this, or we're going to roller coaster park for our birthday, which obviously is well up my street.
Hannah:Yeah, you know, we have actually done several theme parks for my birthdays actually.
Davey:We have. Yeah, we've done. Drayton manor was one alton towers was another.
Hannah:Yeah, you know, that was for my, for my birthdays was that was drayton manor, something when we lost the kettle, but yes, the kettle in the chair. Yeah, that was birmingham. Yeah, going again this year actually after drayton manor. This year.
Davey:Yeah, we had a. We had a roof rack on the car and as we were driving down the a11 we could just hear flapping. And as I looked out of the window, or actually pulled myself out of the passenger seat of the car and looked up, one of the safety catches come loose. And we then had to drive to the next town with me hanging on to the top of the roof box to stop it coming down anymore. And when we got to, was it drayton manor? We got, yeah, we were camping. We were camping at drayton manor. When we got there and we opened everything up and we realised we'd lost a deck chair and a kettle. So somewhere along the road these things had flown out of the roof box.
Hannah:They're probably still there.
Davey:They're probably still on the side of the A11 somewhere. Yeah, yeah, I just hope to God they, you know, I don't think there were any cars behind us was there. We left quite early in the morning.
Hannah:Yeah, hopefully not.
Davey:And on the way back from cornwall, didn't we have a seagull? Stuck in the uh that was that was driving back from france oh, france, that was. Yeah. So I was in the same. Me and wayne were in the car behind your mum, jill, were in the car, were in the chimney and I just saw this seagull fly down and get caught in the roof box and for the rest of the journey, just this this wing was just flapping.
Hannah:Yeah, oh, that was awful, bless it so how are you going to celebrate your 50th? I don't know. Let's think about the future yeah, I don't know so it's my husband's 30th next year yeah and subsequently his stepfather's 60th.
Davey:So there's been an idea tossed so there's 30, 50, yeah, and 60, oh, there's been an idea tossed has. So there's 30, 50 and 60. Oh there's been an idea tossed, has there An?
Hannah:idea has been tossed about a holiday Because they're so close. March and. April oh. Next year. I guess next year you're 50.
Davey:I'm 50 next year. See, to be honest, hannah, I'd just be happy with you coming over for the night, you and mitchell, that we can do that.
Hannah:That's that's we can play some.
Davey:Go sushi yeah, exactly sushi go, I mean yeah sushi go yeah, I'd be happy with that sky joe, sky joe yeah mexican train every game that you fail at I do, yeah, I do. Honestly, I lose everything we play, everything we play. I lose Even when I start winning. You just throw it, you throw it all. Yeah, throw it all away. All away.
Hannah:Anyway, we will leave you there, guys. Happy birthday If it happens to be your birthday when we release it.
Speaker 3:Happy birthday to you. Oh God, I thought we were going to avoid that. Happy birthday to you.
Hannah:Happy birthday to you Happy birthday. Bye guys. Outro Music.