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Speaker 1: 0:01

Hey guys, welcome back to Updated AF Collective the podcast. I am your host, megan Wirth. Today's episode I sit down live in a studio with the Miss Michaela Jay from the Mindset, magic and Manifestation podcast and after her live podcasting event you know cause she's been on the podcast before but we did it via zoom and I told her I was like we live like two hours away from each other. We need to do an episode live. And she agreed, of course, because she's literally the sweetest girl you'll ever freaking meet in your life. She's absolutely amazing. And so we sat down together in a studio and just talked about mindset work and how it correlates with manifestation and why manifestation might be working for other people but it's not working, or it might be working for them but it's not working for you, kind of thing. And it goes back to the basics of what needs to happen prior to you consciously manifesting your dream lux life. Right, because that's what Michaela says, right? So her podcast, like I said, it's called the Mindset, magic and Manifestation Podcast. It is good. I've been listening to her podcast for years and it's helped me a lot, especially fix my mindset. She has so many different courses, you guys, and we do talk a little bit about her courses in the episode and if you're interested if you're not following her already, like and you're interested in maybe looking at her courses, everything is in the show notes. So if you want to go follow her podcast, if you want to go follow her on Instagram or if you want to take one of her courses, it's all in the show notes. Just have to scroll down and look. Also, while you're down there scrolling, can you rate me five stars, leave me a review, subscribe, do all the things, share the episodes, because it really does help my podcast. You know I've only been doing this since October of 2023. And although the podcast is doing really well, we can, we can make it do better. I'm manifesting. Um, you know my podcast doing very well. I love doing it and if you guys want me to keep driving two hours or more to do these live podcasting events, I need, you're gonna have to motivate me a little bit. No, it was, it was so worth it. I would drive six hours one way just to just to sit down with her, because she's a natural and she's the expert, in my personal opinion. She knows what she's talking about and she just breaks it down Very simple, and if you needed that reminder of you know why consciously manifesting your dream life is worth it, this is it, okay. Or, if it hasn't been working for you in the past, maybe listen to this episode. It's kind of a long one, but, um, listen to the episode entirely, take a lot of notes, bookmark it If you need to come back to it as many times as you want. Um, because this one's going to help you the absolute most. Okay, guys, thank you so so much for listening, and I will see you next week. And I will see you next week.

Speaker 1: 3:09

Welcome to the updated AF collective podcast, where we celebrate the power and resilience of women. Join me as we dive into inspiring stories, engage in meaningful conversations and explore topics that empower women from all walks of life. I believe that every woman has a unique strength within her waiting to be unleashed. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a leader, a creative, a caregiver or simply on your own personal journey, this podcast is for you. Together, we'll share stories of triumph, discuss strategies for success and provide a supportive space for women to connect and grow. Get ready for real, authentic conversations that ignite your inner strength and inspire you to chase after your dreams fearlessly. Welcome to the Updated AF Collective. Hey guys, welcome back to the show. Today I have a very special guest. She's the Miss Michaela J and she's been on updated AF before. You guys love the episode so much that I had to have her back on. Welcome, michaela J, to the podcast. Thanks.

Speaker 2: 4:14

I'm so excited to be back. Our first episode was so fun. I am so happy we get to be in the studio to do this, like with the chairs, with the wine glasses, with the mics. It's such a vibe here.

Speaker 1: 4:23

Yes, we had to do it in person because, like you said, like the first one was so fun, but we had to do it over zoom. And then you had your live podcasting event and it was so amazing. And I was like we have to do this again, but live. Yeah, it was oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 4:37

But also the live podcast event was just such a blast. I'm like it was one of those moments. Okay, I don't know if you feel this way, but sometimes with like work tasks, there's some things where you're like I can't wait for this to be over with, like in a nice way. You're like I love this, but can't wait to be done with this. Yes, uh, that was one of those things where I was like I could do this for eight more hours Really. Yeah, I mean I could. My listeners, you are going on tour, so if anybody is interesting, can we talk about that for a second? Okay, oh my God, of course, the hot, rich and that bitch live tour.

Speaker 1: 5:12

Oh my, I love the name. I absolutely love the freaking name because it was so good. It was, uh, just absolutely beautiful. The, the venue that you booked was so beautiful.

Speaker 2: 5:18

It was very green plants everywhere.

Speaker 1: 5:22

It was a wellness center, so it had the cold plunge, it had the salt room uh, everything it had everything.

Speaker 2: 5:29

Oh my God, it worked out so well. They had massage chairs, there was the cold plunge, there was saunas.

Speaker 2: 5:33

Not that anybody like got in the sauna, like we're not there to get sweaty, but maybe like sweaty, like oh I'm resonating, but like not sweaty. In the sauna it was, it was such a vibe. So, yeah, now we're going on tour, which is my next like batshit crazy action step, and so we're doing New York city, denver and Los Angeles in September Perfect, and if anybody that wants to attend, I will have the link to be able to access you in the show notes for anybody that is interested in going.

Speaker 1: 5:58

So, again, like I loved our first episode so much that I wanted to come back and I wanted to ask you some questions in person. And I did a little meditation and I asked, like, okay, what do we want to know, what do my listeners want to know and what do I personally want to know? So we have the expert right here in front of us and, yeah, I'm just going to jump right into it, if that's okay.

Speaker 2: 6:20

Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1: 6:26

So I want to talk about mindset, because that's what you talk primarily on your podcast and you even helped me change my mindset, so I want to jump in a little bit with that and then talk about how it also can affect your manifestation. So my first question and please elaborate as long as you want and as much as you want, be open and honest, but, um, I wrote the first question was how have we been programmed with our relationship with money? Um, you know, I guess, like so many people growing up, I feel like we are getting programmed to thinking a certain way about money. Does that make sense? Like um, does it? How does that affect?

Speaker 2: 7:02

us today. Yeah, I've, everything that we are surrounded by when we're younger, like it was impressing the subconscious mind. I think the subconscious mind is being built and forming until you're like seven or eight years old, and so what you're seeing during those ages you kind of go into adulthood with and you know, before the podcast we were talking about how only 20% of the population is self-aware, which is very scary. You know, before the podcast we were talking about how only 20% of the population is self-aware, which is very scary. But it's because people don't know any better and kind of the programming that we're getting around money has to do with your parents or grandparents or your guardians that you're around, but also your environment. It's like what school you're going to, what neighborhood that you were in, like what clothes you're wearing and can and can't get Like.

Speaker 2: 7:48

I just remember growing up and like always shopping at Goodwill and it was like okay. So that creates the story in my mind that I'm constantly seeking out the best deal, even if it takes more time and ends up being more resources, cause I'm going to all these other stores to find the shirt that's $4 rather than going to the mall, walking in and getting the $16 shirt, right? So it's so funny how these like little things growing up really penetrate your subconscious, because then you do that in all areas of your life. I'm a really big believer in like the way you do one things, the way you do everything Like I live by that seriously. And growing up with this story of like okay, I'm always seeking out the best deal, it's like I carried that into. Like whenever I'm finding a home to rent or I'm always seeking out the best deal for going on a trip. But then it's like at what cost of the cost of my time or sanity? Like, oh my gosh, furnishing my new house and like digging for all this furniture and I'm like this is not worth it. Like, let me just go on the website where I know I like the style and I'll order the furniture Right.

Speaker 2: 8:37

So it it changes your life when you change your mindset in that way, because we're always operating out of this automatic mindset from what we had when we were younger. So I think the way we're being programmed, especially around money, is how? What were your parents' money mindsets? What were your grandparents? You know what was the conversation? I talk a lot with my husband. I'm like I'm like I get so scared thinking about having kids because everything you say really is like going straight to their subconscious. I know, you know, and I'm like man. I just I would never want them to hear like well, that's expensive, because I don't say that around my six year old we don't talk expensive.

Speaker 1: 9:13

We say like we're not going to buy that right now.

Speaker 2: 9:16

Or you know.

Speaker 1: 9:16

I kind of like I don't like the word Um. Yeah, I don't like the word expensive, because I'm trying to break that subconscious programming because growing up, you know, my family always said, like you need to marry a rich man. Money doesn't grow on trees. We need to save, we need to. You know, we can't afford that right now. I refuse to ever say I can't afford it. That's like our subconscious programming coming out and I'm trying to break that habit because it is a habit. It is like that with a scarcity mindset. It's just, it's an addiction and it's a habit.

Speaker 2: 9:44

Yeah, there's sometimes where I'll say things like for that are programmed in me, and then I'm like why did I just say that I don't even believe that? Like, for example, like I'll say expensive, sometimes it'll slip out and I'm like oh, that's an expense, Like with my table, I just got a new desk in my office.

Speaker 2: 9:56

I'd be like, oh, like literally like wrist slap, ew, like that's not what I want to think. And it takes a really high level of self-awareness to notice those things. But it starts with noticing them and looking at kind of your reality and asking, like, what beliefs made up this reality? Well, I had to seek out the best deal, and so now I'm stressed out because now I spent all that time. Well, what started? That I had to have the best deal right At the cost of everything else. And so we really have to look at those patterns to start to change our lives Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 10:33

And the first thing is is self-awareness 100%? So, um, you kind of just answer. The second question is where do our beliefs come from? Because, and you just said it, it's it's our childhood and it's growing up, and it's from our peers, and our subconscious mind is just absorbing it all.

Speaker 2: 10:51

Absorbing it all and then also it's constantly translating things. I think where we get really caught up with our belief system is that we are constantly making meanings of certain things Like, oh, this person's looking at me this way. That must mean this I'll do this all the time with my husband and he'll be like looking at me and I'm like what's wrong. He's like nothing's wrong and I'm like you don't look happy Like, and he's like what? I'm like I'm literally driving Like what are?

Speaker 1: 11:15

you talking about.

Speaker 2: 11:17

And so we're constantly interpreting, interpreting every single thing, going on all day long, and so where our beliefs come from is all those environments and things that you're saying, and translating all of those things and it's like, okay. Well, I think about growing up, like, okay, if your parents didn't give you that much attention. You think like, oh well, I'm not good enough to get their attention or the things I'm doing aren't good enough, so then maybe you go on to be this A plus student to try and grab their attention. But it doesn't mean that you were never not good enough. It doesn't mean you ever have to prove your worth. It means their intention was elsewhere.

Speaker 2: 11:48

And so one way that I really like to reprogram my beliefs is I stop making meanings about things and I notice my limiting beliefs and where I have those types of reactions where what's wrong? What's wrong? Like, oh, are you not happy? Like it's like, oh, I'm not. I'm not thinking that they're happy because of this reaction, because I'm making him having a straight face while driving, mean that like I'm doing something wrong because I'm not getting that attention.

Speaker 1: 12:10

As a child it did mean something was wrong and so we're kind of like going back into our subconscious and all of a sudden our reticular activating system is like alerted and it's like, oh my gosh, that one time that like my dad was yelling at me in the car and then had the straight face. So all of a sudden you're triggered by that and it's like, yeah you're. I do believe that you know, our reticular activating system is much as it's like very useful, but it also it can go back into the attic, your subconscious mind, and pull out that. But if you're not aware of what's happening in that moment Like you in your car with your husband and and you're like, oh my gosh, like what am I doing? This doesn't exist anymore, this reality doesn't exist anymore yeah You're self-aware and then you make that choice.

Speaker 2: 12:54

So I'll like notice myself and I even noticed myself doing that this weekend and we're like building furniture and I'm like what's wrong? He's like I'm I'm literally reading instructions, like, and I'm like, yeah, I'm like I'm focusing, so like our table doesn't fall apart in like two weeks when we're hosting a dinner party.

Speaker 2: 13:08

And I'm like, oh, yeah, right, and so it's retraining your inner child, essentially. And I'm thinking like, oh, yeah, like silence, a straight face, it doesn't have to mean anything. And then there's so many things that we adapt to growing up, but belief wise, where there was no meaning, we just created the meanings. Like, for example, it'd be like yeah, like with friendships, it's like oh, that person didn't talk to me today, like they must not like me. That means I'm ugly.

Speaker 1: 13:36

And it's like Whoa.

Speaker 2: 13:37

Whoa, whoa, like they were just. Maybe they're in their own world, maybe their grandparent just died, maybe they're just talking to their own friends. It doesn't. They probably weren't even thinking about you that much, but we started to click together because the brain works in stories. So we need closure, so we make our own closure. However, as adults, we then see some of those closure statements we made aren't beneficial and they aren't true.

Speaker 1: 14:00

Yeah, because and I like to think it's because we have an emotion attached to a traumatic event as a child. So obviously I think if there's an emotion attached to it, it's going to come up more and more and more until you can correct it and fix it and kind of go back and fix that shadow self, yeah, okay. So I want to kind of get into a little bit of more manifestation, because I think that in order to consciously manifest cause, we're always manifesting, right. So, whether you know it or not, you are consciously manifesting. It's, um, whether you want to do it, like I said, consciously, and in order to do it consciously, we have to fix our mindset.

Speaker 1: 14:42

Yeah, so a lot of people now, if you think about the earlier days back in the nineties, when Abraham Hicks was like a big success, every I mean I, I listened to all of her things Um, I listened to her audio books and all that fun stuff but you got to think like it was a little bit different. Her, her message was very confusing and this is where I think you can clarify for a lot of people because she made a comment I should say Abraham made a comment because she was channeling about how, you know, pick a better thought. Pick a better thought. If you're in a bad mood and you're upset or something very traumatic happened, you pick a better thought, as if you can just flip a switch. Yeah, because if you stay down or you stay in that sad low vibrational frequency that it can actually, you know, sabotage your manifestations. It was very confusing, so for the longest, time I was walking around with positive or toxic positivity.

Speaker 1: 15:29

Right, let's talk about that for a second Cause. I think a lot of people think like if, hey, I, I'm trying to manifest $30,000, but you know, my boyfriend just broke up with me and all I feel is just pain and sorrow right now. Like what are you supposed to just?

Speaker 2: 15:42

be happy let's talk about this. Well, jeremy dumped me, but at least by 30,000 coming and it's like what the fuck? It's weird, right? Yeah, it's super weird she used to talk about and, like I said, like.

Speaker 1: 15:53

I studied her work for a long time and I love her and I think she's great, but I think a lot of things that she said was lost in translation and not fully um communicated. Well, if that's my yeah.

Speaker 2: 16:05

And it makes it confusing. And I think another thing that Abraham Hicks talks about is like oh well, if it's not a high vibrational thought or you're not feeling really good, go take a nap. I'm sorry, but the times I've been really stressed out and really anxious and I go take a nap, I wake up from that nap just as anxious and I probably had a nightmare, so it kind of it kind of takes out the humanness and I probably had a nightmare.

Speaker 2: 16:22

So it kind of takes out the humanness and I think part of that is because it's a channeled message from beings that aren't human.

Speaker 2: 16:29

But this is the conversation we need to have. Is that you have to give yourself a shitty five minutes Like this is such a big practice for me. We are human and we are these spiritual beings having a human experience. We have these human emotions, which is a wide range of emotions, and there's this immutable law of the universe, like the law of polarity, and we need to experience both sides of emotions to really appreciate the things that we're grateful for. And that means when we're angry, when we're frustrated, when we're stressed out, we have to feel it for a few moments before we can neutralize it.

Speaker 2: 17:00

So this is always what I tell clients like you're angry, you're frustrated, you are having anxiety, you're doubting, right, you don't have that certainty. It's like, okay, let's feel those feelings. Like I don't go punch a pillow, scream into a pillow. Like go get a workout in, cry. Like I love a good shower, cry, you know. And just have your moment and allow yourself to feel those feelings. And having a down moment and having your shitty five minutes isn't going to fuck up your manifestation. And I think that's what people get really afraid of. Like, if I'm not high, vibe a hundred percent of the time, like it's going to screw everything over. And that's not the truth. Because if you have that toxic, positive positivity and you just ignore it, that manifests in your body and then you gain weight and then you're inflamed and then you don't feel like yourself anymore and then you go get a massage and you bawl your eyes out and you have no idea why. It's because all those feelings are stored in your body. And so what I think is really important when we're feeling these heavy emotions is give yourself that space. And when I say a shitty five minutes, it's not literally set a timer for five minutes, it's. It's how ever long you need to process that feeling and move on and knowing, okay, I'm going to give myself this space to feel it and to express it and be angry and be whatever, but then I'm going to move on because I know staying in this feeling doesn't help, but I'm going to honor it because it's just energy.

Speaker 2: 18:15

Emotion is energy and motion. We just have to move that energy through your body. And one thing I actually talked about this with a client recently that when we're kind of learning to tap into our emotions, because I feel like a lot of us grew up pushing our emotions to the side right. And so then we like learn to feel and we're like, wow, this is a lot of feelings all at once, cause we're not used to it and it's cause we push it off, push it off, push it off.

Speaker 2: 18:36

And then when you go through it for the first time, it takes a lot longer to process. But when you get used to, okay, this feeling is coming up for me, I'm going to breathe through it, I'm going to feel it. It goes a lot faster. If you just looked at it the moment, the energy was moving, rather than having to kind of conjure it up later. And so it's so important for us to give ourselves that space and, like when I first started to learn to process my emotions, I would be upset for like hours and hours and hours. Okay, and then it would be four hours and it's like, okay, I'm gonna have my shave five minutes. Now I'm having a two hour meltdown and then it's 30 minutes. And that's why I say five minutes, because over time it will shorten and once you feel neutral, then you can choose a better feeling thought.

Speaker 1: 19:14

Can you imagine if we learned this as kids? I wish. I think, about that because, like I, come from a family where you are not allowed to show emotion Like you don't cry.

Speaker 1: 19:24

If you're going to cry, you can go take it to your room or you know like you're going to get something taken away from you. There's no crying in my family and nobody's allowed. I mean we were barely allowed to speak if adults were in the room. So, having that childhood, I have suppressed everything. So anytime something crazy or traumatic would happen, I suppressed it and I kept it to myself. Can you imagine if we would have learned how to like, talk about how we, how we feel, and to have our moment as kids? It would have been so different. We would have been better adults. You did not have to go through spiritual awakening.

Speaker 2: 19:57

Yeah, literally, it would have been so much easier to move things along. Because then it's like I'm sure before you had your journey of changing yourself, it's like anytime something traumatic would happen to you, you probably just shut down, like, not only like shut the feelings down, but probably just get silent because that's what you're trained to do. And for me, growing up, like if we cry, like for me I was a very emotional kid and I would cry a lot, like happy tears, like at Christmas. I would cry every Christmas and then I would get made fun of, and so I stopped crying for years and years and years, because I'm like, oh, like they're making fun of me. So then I created this meaning.

Speaker 2: 20:29

Nobody was telling me this was the meaning. They were actually like laughing because they thought it was endearing. But for me I'm saying all these adults laugh at me, that it's weak and embarrassing to cry, and so if we had had these tools or even had somebody sit down and be like, oh, we're not laughing at you, this is really endearing. Or if those people had had the self-awareness to not have that reaction, right, it just like. This is why it's so important that, like you do things differently as a parent and that I do things in the future if I'm a parent, because it really does make a difference. So right now we're all learning to parent ourselves and give ourselves, you know, five minutes in the corner and then we can move on from there Exactly I try to like let my daughter have her time and space.

Speaker 2: 21:10

I'm not a perfect parent.

Speaker 1: 21:11

I don't know anybody out there that is a perfect parent. So there's times where I'm just like really short with her. I'm like put your freaking shoes on and get your ass in the car. She's just like throwing a fit and I'm like I don't have time for this. But, like you know, like I try to calm myself down and just be like you know what, sit down with her, what's going on, and just have that face-to-face conversation Because clearly I think, because like I'm healing myself from my childhood, I'm helping her not to have that childhood trauma. So there's so many times where I realize like, oh my gosh, like something's really bothering her, cause I recognize it because that's how I behaved and I, I like just last night my daughter was having this like really weird outburst over something.

Speaker 1: 21:52

that was like really minor. And I just remember like, uh, my mom, like you know, they don't know, they don't, but they would laugh at me. If I had like a weird reaction or I was really angry at something or something, I was just in a bad mood, they would laugh which made me even more mad.

Speaker 1: 22:07

And so there was like, like I said, last night, my daughter was throwing a fit over something really minor and I was like, oh my gosh, like I remember going through this. And so I sat with her and I'm like, tell me, what's going on. Had nothing to do with that thing that she was having a fit about.

Speaker 1: 22:20

It was something completely different and she was upset about something that happened in the past, that it was just now coming up, but it was like manifesting in a different way and I just I have to remind myself like she's going to have those moments too. Yeah, she's human, and so I'm trying to raise an emotionally stable child.

Speaker 2: 22:36

So that she's not, you know a a like a damaged adult. So, but what a beautiful reminder of oh, she was upset about something that didn't even have to do with the actual situation. We do that so often is like I will feel frustration or feel some like sadness, and then I won't deal with it, I won't look at it, and then later a little thing, a little inconvenience happens and makes you pop up is because you didn't deal with that emotion.

Speaker 1: 23:01

It's going to come up later. It's going to come up one point or another.

Speaker 2: 23:04

So you might as well just feel it now and get it over with Again while that energy is in motion. That's the fastest and easiest way. And if somebody is listening to this and they're like, well, I don't know, like when I'm frustrated or sad or anxious or whatever these low vibration emotions are like, I don't know what to do in those moments. Just those moments just sit in it, like if anything, like for me, I know, like if I'm angry, I want to start like cleaning and move the energy. I'm like I'm either going on a walk, I'm going to work out, I want to clean Okay, great. So I'm going to follow it and express it that way. If I'm sad, I'm going to, I'm going to put on my heated blanket, I'm going to roll in a little blanket, but again knowing I'm going to feel this and then I'm going to move on in whatever way feels right, because continuing to feel this is not going to change the situation.

Speaker 1: 23:52

Pick your heart. You're going to feel it in the moment or you're going to feel it later and it's going to come out at a very inconvenient time.

Speaker 1: 23:58

Yeah, and you're going to look like a crazy person because you don't know why you feel the way you feel You're just all of a sudden a bad mood and they don't realize they're not making the connection. Like oh, last week, So-and-so said this to me. I didn't deal with it in the moment and now it's coming out in a completely random place, in a different time. You got to sit with it. I love the same. Feel it to heal it.

Speaker 1: 24:17

Pick your heart, pick your heart, deal with it in the moment, and that's again what I'm trying to do for myself and for my daughter as well. And you made a comment about the mind-body connection in a way and there's scientific proof about this Again, talking about how I wanted to have a neurosurgeon on my podcast is because they have discovered that all that suppressed emotion is affecting our body. And you said that. You said it causes inflammation. Inflammation causes different diseases.

Speaker 1: 24:50

And yeah, can we talk about that for a second, Because it does go with again, the law of attraction manifestation is, if you you can work on yourself and listen to the self development podcast and read all the self development books, but at the same time, if you're just like again still suppressing all of that that shadows and it's going into your body, there's a chemical that's getting released and it doesn't feel good and it doesn't do good things.

Speaker 2: 25:14

Oh man, my husband and I talk about this all the time of like. There are people that will listen to the podcast and read the books and have the conversations, but they don't actually embody all the things that they're taking in, and that's why I love on my podcast, I am always giving homework. I'm like this is your homework, this is your journal prompt. This is exactly what I want you to think about. Like on Spotify, you can do like Q and a or like little polls under your episodes. I'm like I want you to put in the Q and a what you're going to do, cause it's like you need to embody it for it to change anything. Or you're just taking all this information and then in your ego you're like oh yeah, I'm like, I'm so spiritual, like I really work on myself.

Speaker 1: 25:49

I do yoga and I meditate for 20 minutes every day.

Speaker 2: 25:52

I'm so good, but you're not embodying it.

Speaker 2: 25:55

And then, when these situations come up that are, you know, low vibration inducing, whether it's anger, frustration, anxiety, whatever you react, you don't respond and then you get all these crazy chemicals going on in your body and then and then you're like, well, I don't want to deal with it, cause you're again, you're not practicing the coping mechanisms, and then all that energy just goes back into your body, like I just always.

Speaker 2: 26:17

I remember when a massage that I got and I just like started randomly crying and I afterwards was telling the masseuse and they're like, yeah, it's stored emotion in the body and I realized when I started to do a lot of inner work on myself, that was releasing those low vibration emotions that I didn't in the past Cause I didn't know how to process that. I also have no water in my birth chart, so it's really easy for me to not feel emotions, so I have to be really intentional about it. But I'm like, oh, I lost a ton of weight when I started to actually go through my feelings because I think a lot. I didn't even have a lot of weight on me, it was inflammation. It's crazy.

Speaker 1: 26:51

Absolutely, and what a lot of people don't realize too. It's like it's also good for your health doing shadow work, doing the mindset work. It's very, very good for your health. They um, there's all these scientific studies and going on right now and we won't get into that because we're obviously not doctors or anything but there's all these studies going on about how people who are storing all this traumatic events and have you know like they're not getting help for it, whether they have childhood trauma or whether they're adult trauma or whatever it is, but they're suppressing it and it's going into their body.

Speaker 1: 27:20

It's causing severe inflammation, which inflammation can cause a lot of different diseases and it can manifest in different, uh, different ways, like Alzheimer's, dementia, some sort of cancers and stuff like that too. It's just, it's fascinating because there are books out there Um, we won't get it again Again, we won't get into that because we're not medical doctors. But um, it it does. It has long-term effects of working on yourself. It's not just like oh, I want to manifest a yacht or a new car or whatever. No, you have to work on yourself and I think we owe it to ourselves to put in that work.

Speaker 1: 27:50

And first things first. If you don't know how to put in that work, you don't know what the first action step is to take. Buy a course. That's what I had to do. I didn't know what to do. I felt stuck because you don't know what you don't know. Do I felt stuck because you don't know what you don't know? And when I started listening to self-development podcasts and like law of attraction and manifestation, you know I'm, you know, confused. I'm like what do I do? Yeah, you buy a course.

Speaker 2: 28:10

Yeah, from somebody, from somebody who knows what to do Exactly. Yeah, cause there's also, like on the medical side of kind of the energetic doctor side of things, like you're inflamed and that can cause all these health issues. But then also it causes major like body image issues Because, like I had a friend who was really struggling with inflammation from a lot of things and she's like I don't look like myself, I don't feel like myself, my clothes don't fit, and so then your confidence goes down. So then you're also not. Now you feel like crap because you think you look like crap Not that you do, you think you do just from your own self image and then you're not taking action because you don't want to show up, because you don't feel good about yourself. So then on a manifestation like level, then you're not showing up to your next level self and you're not actually taking the aligned action that would get you to your goals. So it's so important for us to like have this conversation. Like you need to have your shitty five minutes and express that however you feel like that needs to be expressed.

Speaker 2: 28:59

When I was first learning how to process anger, I like went to one of those like smash record rooms where you like throw wine bottles at like a brick wall. It was amazing and I was like, just like, whatever way you feel, like you need to get that out. Give yourself that space, create that time to do that, and then from there we feel neutral and that's where you can pick the better feeling thought. Going back to the Abraham Hicks thing Like when you feel neutral, then you get to decide what, what it is moving forward, whether that's you going neutral to like, okay, I'm going into action.

Speaker 2: 29:29

Maybe you don't feel good, maybe you're not grateful, but at least you're moving into action of, oh, this frustrated me. I felt it Okay, well, this is what I'm going to do about it. And then, once you take that action, then gratitude will probably start to come in, because now I'm really grateful. I took the time to feel that I'm grateful, I took this action step. Now I can see you know how this is maybe a better path for me or how I was meant to express that, and then you're in the better feeling thought. But it is a process.

Speaker 1: 29:54

I love that you said that, especially so somebody recently um, an influencer made a comment saying that which I don't agree with. She made a comment that was like if you are writing your gratitude list out every single morning and you're not feeling actually grateful, you're doing it wrong. And I don't believe in that because I have been. I have been to like the bottom of depression before, like I've had to claw my way back out, and the one thing that really did help me was a gratitude list, and that was my first action step towards fixing my mind and my mindset and everything, and although I was writing out the things that I was grateful for, I wasn't feeling it.

Speaker 1: 30:29

But, like you just said, you take the first step, the feelings will eventually get there, and so when I heard her say that she's a very well-known author and podcaster, I was like, oh girl, no, we're not telling people that because you don't know who you're talking to.

Speaker 1: 30:41

And there's so many women out there. It's just so sad because, like, we have this epidemic of loneliness and people feel alone and they feel like you know that, which can lead to depression. And the first thing that you should do, if you don't know what to do and you don't have the money to go buy a course or whatever, is start a gratitude list. You might not feel grateful in that moment, but the feelings will come. Just give it a couple weeks and you're going to start to look for blessings, you're going to start to look for miracles, and that's what I did when, I was working in law enforcement, I just like I went um.

Speaker 1: 31:14

I had really bad postpartum depression one, so that didn't help. And then also I was depressed on top of that because I wasn't being, I wasn't being fulfilled through my job anymore.

Speaker 1: 31:23

And I just looked around at the world and I'm like everybody sucks, this place sucks, people suck Like. And then, um, and then all of a sudden, you know, when I was doing the gratification uh, my gratitude list, I was looking for really like nice things and like little blessings here and there, like somebody getting the door for me or somebody saying good morning. I was like that was really nice and I was looking for quote unquote miracles.

Speaker 2: 31:49

Yeah, and you know it's crazy. It's like those are things that are already happening. We're just not putting the same awareness on it, which is why I love that tip of you. Don't know where to start. Start with gratitude and fuck that person who said that you have to feel it. I was so shocked, because after this, you need to tell me who.

Speaker 1: 32:02

I will. We won't mention her name. She's very well known, but like she made a big deal about it and I was like girl, no.

Speaker 2: 32:08

I understand the element of feeling, but for me it's like have that in a visualization.

Speaker 2: 32:13

And honestly, even if you're in a visualization and you don't feel it right now, at least you're practicing. That's the big thing is, these are practices. Maybe the first time you saved your house, you don't feel anything. Second time you don't feel anything. Third time you're like okay, it feels more clear. It's a practice, which is why we do it over and over again and you realize like these things were there all along people holding the door, somebody saying good morning, finding a penny on the ground, the angel numbers, angel numbers on the license plates, those license plates already existed. All of these things were already around you, even like women in business, like your clients, are already living, breathing, humans, walking around, like they're not just being born. And then they're like wow, hello, welcome to my world. Like these things are already happening. It's just we're shifting our focus and your focus would have never shifted if you hadn't just started that.

Speaker 2: 33:00

And if somebody was like you don't feel it, you're not doing it right, and then you probably would have given up to say can you imagine?

Speaker 1: 33:06

somebody that was listening to that thinking like, well, shit, I've been doing this gratitude list for two weeks and I don't feel anything, so what's the point? I don't want people thinking like that, because I've personally been there and when you were in survival mode um, which I was I was really, really depressed and I felt like I was every single day I was having to survive the day. Yeah, you have tunnel vision and tunnel vision blocks out all of the blessings around you. It blocks out all the other opportunities that your chance of networking with other people that can get you out of that you know, depression on that dark place and um, and that's what.

Speaker 1: 33:39

Every single day I did a little bit more, uh, gratitude work. I took a self-development course, you know. I learned, I read a lot of books and learning about the law of attraction, stuff like that, and every single day my tunnel got bigger and bigger and bigger until I was completely out of that tunnel vision and I was like, oh my God, the world is actually great.

Speaker 1: 33:56

And things were a little bit brighter, my you know, the clouds were nicer, the sun was shining, it were nicer the sun was shining. It's just, it just takes those little steps. So I just had to. I knew I wanted to have that conversation with you here, because I know you could have elaborated a little bit better than I could have, and you said it perfectly.

Speaker 2: 34:13

Yeah, I think that that's such a good thing to talk about, and I like the idea of the tunnel vision because it's basically like when you're driving and then every day it's getting wider and wider and now you see that you can switch lanes, now you see you can exit, now you see that you can have a rest, stop, like that there's some.

Speaker 2: 34:26

It was there the whole entire time was always there and now you see that you have the option because you practice moving that. So, even in this process we're talking about, of shifting the low vibrations, if you say like, you're like, okay, michaela, I did my shitty five minutes, now I'm neutral and now I decided to take an action, step or say this affirmation or do whatever, and you're like, didn't feel anything. At least you felt neutral. I rather you feel kind of this nothingness towards the situation rather than an anger, a hatred and anxiety and over time that's going to pick up and it just can't judge yourself. In the process, like I remember when I was getting into personal development mindset, like the first time the universe almost got to me, it was my senior year of high school, cause I had my spiritual awakening after my freshman year of college. So my senior year of high school it almost cracked me. And I remember, like when Snapchat was cool Uh, one of my friends from school had posted this Snapchat story and she was like I don't know she, I think she posted a story of like somebody cut me off and I sent them gratitude when she was driving and this girl was actually a year younger than me and I was like this girl is so fucking happy all the time.

Speaker 2: 35:30

I literally messaged her and I go how are you so happy all the time? Cause I was so deep in like victimhood mode, being a pessimist. My life sucks, the world owes me, everything's my life's harder than yours? Like I was so deep in it. I was like how are you so happy? And she told me she was like I just don't sweat the small things, like it's just not worth my energy anymore. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to adapt to that mindset and something annoying would happen. I'd be like I don't sweat the small things. Only lasted for two days, only for two days, and I felt really, really good. And then it didn't feel good. And it didn't feel good and I dropped off. And if only I hadn't heard a conversation like this. That was like if you keep going, even if it doesn't really make you feel better, at least you're creating that new neural pathway in your brain so that eventually it does feel good.

Speaker 2: 36:15

Absolutely the universe almost got me.

Speaker 1: 36:18

And I like that you can. Also, you don't have to just forget your trauma. Yeah, you can heal from your trauma, but also use it as contrast, and I do believe in contrast. Um, when, for example, like being cut off in traffic yeah, that used to like irk me too and I used to get livid and enraged and I would like cuss everybody out or take take the, take those small little things and just like make it ruin my day and make it mean something, Cause my brain was like no, that person hates me, even though I'm a freaking stranger, probably just late for work or literally I was like it has nothing to do with me.

Speaker 1: 36:48

And I have to remind myself that has nothing to do with me. Just like your friend was like, yeah, I'm going to send them love, gratitude. I don't know what that person's going through today because, like I, I like to go back and say you know what? The old Megan would have lost her shit. The new Megan is just going to. You know, send them love, use it as contrast.

Speaker 2: 37:05

Yeah, I think that's so important and it also just reminds you of why you have the mindset now of like, oh yeah, that used to make me really mad and then my whole day would be ruined and I'd feel like shit. And then I'm like, I'm angry, and then I'm going to do this fun thing or go on this errand and I could have enjoyed myself and I let myself ruin the moment and I'm not going to do that anymore.

Speaker 1: 37:25

Yeah, so do you think? Now? I've thought about this, cause I'm up a lot at nighttime working.

Speaker 2: 37:30

So like I have like all these random thoughts and I was thinking I was like manifestation.

Speaker 1: 37:35

Okay, so like I have changed my mindset, I've I'm completely out of tunnel vision and I'm seeing all these amazing opportunities, which is great. I feel like the last couple of years of my life I've completely manifested everything. Yeah, I mean I used to write in this journal well, not this one, sorry like in one journal and I would write down when I was in law enforcement like I'm going to be a successful Texas real estate agent and I would write that for so long. And then, when I did, I finally, like, changed my mindset. I got healthy mentally, spiritually, all of the things and I quit my job.

Speaker 1: 38:08

I moved to Texas, didn't even have a Texas license, I had nothing. I wasn't you know, I just jumped into it. And then it happened Everybody came around and was like trying to help me, which was really great. So I look back and I say I don't think I could have manifested any of this if I didn't change my mindset before, because I wouldn't have been able to see outside of my tunnel people trying to help me. And it makes me think like even probably when I was in my darkest place in law enforcement, there was probably people trying to help me and I couldn't see it. So we have to change our mindset in order for the manifestations to become our reality.

Speaker 2: 38:44

Yeah, yeah, cause we're really closed off when we're not open to those possibilities, like that's the thing. Like your mindset dictates kind of your capacity, and so when you're really negative, that's taking up a lot of your capacity, and when you're really closed off and like this sucks, and when you're not doing that work, you only have X amount and 80% of it's going towards your current reality. When we start working on our mindset, I feel like 50% of our capacity goes to dealing with our current reality and like the other 50% can go towards us showing up as our next level selves, us being more open, us presenting ourselves in a different way, right, and you don't know until you know, but we also have to seek that out, right. And so I think it's so important because when we're closed off and we're not looking for solutions, we miss all of them that are there all along.

Speaker 2: 39:28

And so for me, like when I think about my kind of formula like that's why my podcast is mindset magic manifestation, because it's a formula it's like you have to get your mindset in check and open up what's possible for you, and when you tap into your magic, which is really tapping into, like your spiritual beliefs, what you believe to be true about this world, that gives you that like safety, that trust of like. Okay, I know for me, like I believe in law of attraction, like attracts, like, so when I put out the energy I'm going to get that back. So now I feel like anything's possible. I know if I put out this limitless action then I can get that back and the manifestation is as easy as showing up and doing the work.

Speaker 1: 40:02

It's like your mind is already looking to like fix the I don't want to say problem in your head but if you're, if you're giving your mind a task. It's going to, it's going to look for it, it's going to figure it out and it's going to do it for you and you become magnetic. I feel like that's how you become magnetic is because your brain is turned on and it's constantly scanning and it's constantly looking for the answer to your prayers.

Speaker 1: 40:25

And I can't stand when people are like the law of attraction is not real, Manifestation is not real, blah, blah, blah. It doesn't work for me. Or I tried it for a year and I got nothing.

Speaker 2: 40:35

What do you say to those people? What did you try? Yeah?

Speaker 1: 40:39

Well, one did you fix your mental health.

Speaker 2: 40:42

Yeah, there's two big things. I look at One. You tried it. I could get this tattooed on me. There's no trying, only doing. Okay, so you're doing it or you're not doing it. Period. People are like I tried it, Like then, what did you try? What were you doing? Because you probably weren't doing it. And manifestation is always happening. Like the definition of manifestation is to bring about to the eye. It's something that is always occurring every single day. So it's like oh, I've been, I've been trying to manifest for a year. What are you actually doing? And it's probably not that deep work on yourself.

Speaker 1: 41:17

You're not tapping into it for 20 minutes in the morning and then getting in their car and flipping everybody off in traffic?

Speaker 2: 41:22

Exactly, you're not embodying the actual things and you're not carrying it with you, and that's something that I like to talk about. When it comes to like the rituals because everybody made this huge deal about like morning routines and I'm a morning routine girl too, for sure, and people will be like, okay, you're going to sit down and you're going to do your meditation and you're going to journal and you're going to say your affirmations and then you're going to go about your day. Right, wake up an hour early so you can do your morning routine and your skincare, go to work in a good mood, okay, but what about when you're at work? It's like when people kind of like leave their like altar space or like where they're journaling or like their happy, comfortable space. When your candle is done, your incense is out and you're off in the real world, then it's just like it's just done, done and gone. That's not being intentional about your life.

Speaker 2: 42:03

Being a true like magnetic manifestor is something you carry with you. It's a living, breathing, moving thing all of the time, and I just recorded a podcast episode today of kind of like what that looks like every day for me and it's like that process, the mindset, magic, manifestation kind of formula. You can do it all in like five minutes, over and over and over and over again. You get a crazy idea for something. You think I can't do that Shift your mindset. Okay, great. Well, if I am cultivating this next level energy, tapping into my magic, I know that if I'm putting out, I know if I'm putting out an action, step in a certain energy, it's going to come back to me Great. So then I'll take action in that energy Boom done done, done.

Speaker 1: 42:48

You can do that 700 times a day with every single thing. But people do the 20 minutes of meditation and then they go live their life and act like none of that matters anymore, and then they complain that it doesn't work. Yeah, but the thing is like I, I I think of it this way. It's like you are doing your rituals.

Speaker 1: 42:52

I also love my morning routine and I'm like listening to um, like a motivational podcast or an audible book or something like that, while I'm doing my makeup and I'm like I'll sometimes do a tapping session with my, with my skincare, and so like I'm, I'm, you know, I'm in the zone, I'm in that space of like wake. I call it my waking up period, and then what I found is a lot of people, after they do their rituals, they'll fall back asleep, go back into subconscious programming and then live the rest of their day asleep on autopilot. I have to consciously and this is why I say consciously, because I'm still in it I'm still trying to consciously stay awake in and just embody manifestation and law of attraction and all the laws of the universe, and I'm just trying to stay awake and be mindful of how I behave, what I say, how I behave, how I act out in public, because I feel like that's where a lot of people fall off the wagon Right.

Speaker 2: 43:44

It's a practice, just like we were saying. All of it's a practice and I always say like your true vibration, a good way to tell what your actual, like, habitual vibration is. If I were to walk up to you on a Wednesday at 2 30 PM and a target, what would your mood be? And not like, oh my God, michaela J, but like if I was like some random ass bitch being like, hey, do you know where the primer is?

Speaker 2: 44:05

And you're like, no, I don't work here. Like that's your vibe, where it's like, oh, my God, yeah. Like I think it's like, oh, the cosmetic section is on that side of the story, like what's your reaction? That's your habitual vibration and that's why these things are practices and there's going to be so many times in our day where we are like tried by the universe or attested or things are inconvenience for humans, like I think the sidebar, the one thing that people think is like you become a spiritual person and nothing bad ever happens again. Wrong.

Speaker 1: 44:32

Like you're still having a human experience.

Speaker 2: 44:36

Yeah, things are going to get fucked up. Okay, but it's just like when you're spiritual and mindful and you work on the mindset stuff, you could handle it better and with more grace. But it takes that practice and when something happens being like am I going to be reactive or responsive to this? I'm just reacting, I'm mad, I'm upset, I don't work here. Whatever it is or is it, I'm responsive. Oh, I think it's over here. I'm not really sure, but I just saw a worker on that aisle or I don't know. Let's find it together.

Speaker 2: 45:00

Like there's a different way you can respond to things. And when it comes to, like your daily practice, like you started in the morning and it should be the goal to carry that vibration throughout the day, you are consciously setting the tone for the day, but it's also up to you to keep it that tone. It's like when people who are more religious, like, go to church on Sundays and they're like, okay, well, well, like God should take care of it for the rest of the week, and it's like but are you like actively practicing that Like? Are you like praying? Are you like doing these other like Christian things?

Speaker 1: 45:29

I grew up in the Catholic church and I literally would watch people like be on their hands and knees praying and then, as soon as we all, as soon as mass got out, we're all in our cars and there's a lot of traffic, so everybody's trying to get out of the parking lot like honking their horn and flipping each other's off.

Speaker 1: 45:40

I'm like we just left mass and I've seen that so often. I mean I, you know, I still consider myself a Christian but like, at the same time, I don't physically go to church because I'm like you know what? Like, my religion and spirituality is very personal and that's what I love to tell other women is like it's, it can be very personal. You don't have to go to all the churches and go to all the religious events and everything. You can be at home with a candle, with a good self-development book and then journaling. What does this mean to me? How am I interpreting this? And I know I'm probably going to piss off a lot of like, really religious people, but like I just I see, like I see them, a lot of them as hypocrites, and it's on both sides of the fence and oh my God, because there's all those girlies that are like spiritual and they have their spiritual podcasts and all this other stuff, but they're not nice and I've met a couple of them.

Speaker 1: 46:29

Yeah, no, I met one girl and I was like kind of sad because, like I was like, oh my gosh, like you know, they look like that from their social media pages. They're embodying all of those things.

Speaker 2: 46:39

And they're like it's a lifestyle, exactly.

Speaker 1: 46:42

And then and then when I talked to them, I was like, oh, you're actually not really nice and so it's yeah, like you have to live it it is, it's a lifestyle, yeah.

Speaker 2: 46:50

Because then they let their ego get in the way, and that's what I mean. Like you're walking up to those people 2, 30 PM and target, they're like fuck off. And it's like, oh, so you're not actually in tune with these things, because if somebody came up to me and let's start, I would never act that way. That's embarrassing, and so I think that's. Another thing that I like to think about is like I hold myself to high standards because that feels good. It feels good to be nice to people, it feels good to believe in myself, to support myself, to be open to support and to get in receiving the signs and everything. And so many people are just they do their ritual, they think, great, I did my part and now I just like go back to normal life.

Speaker 1: 47:27

Yeah, no but, like you said, no-transcript, just like when you, when you said, like you know, we are still human, we still have human experiences. So, like bad things aren't going to happen. So when bad things do happen, um, obviously don't put a, don't put a label on it, don't say, oh well, the universe is punishing me because I spit my gum out onto the road.

Speaker 2: 47:51

You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 47:52

Like don't put a label on it. So how would you describe that to somebody who was like well, for example, like I just recently got into a car accident and I literally was like the universe is testing me and it hates me Remember that time I kicked a tree? This is exactly what I get for doing that. Like, what do you tell somebody when you're like saying, well, the universe is testing me, the universe hates me?

Speaker 2: 48:10

I don't believe in punishment. I've actually realized that lately. I don't believe in punishment. Whenever I hear somebody be like this is a punishment, or like I'll hear my friends who like have normal jobs, talk about something, they're like they punished us, so they did this, I'm like I don't really believe in that.

Speaker 1: 48:25

I had to like really unlearn that, because growing up in the Catholic church you know God punishes those people that are like that. You know like you better repent swear or yeah, exactly and so, like I used to in my head, when something bad would happen to me, I was like I deserve this, like I'm gonna get the wrath and I. It came back. My old subconscious programming came back when I got into the car accident because I was like God hates me, the universe hates me. Um, I did something wrong what did I do?

Speaker 2: 48:53

what did I do?

Speaker 1: 48:54

and it had nothing to do with me. It actually and we could talk about this later it actually actually kind of benefits me now. Yeah, um, yeah, so like everything is happening for you, yeah, even losing my beautiful.

Speaker 2: 49:08

SUV. Oh, rip, rip. I loved her. So that's how I felt when my Tesla got ruined. I had my very first Tesla. I had that I was leasing.

Speaker 2: 49:14

Somebody crashed into and it was like this yeah, it was like this old little man in like like a 1998 van, like you can't yell at the poor guy, yeah, no. And he only spoke spanish. And I'm like this poor guy, like is he okay? Like I remember, like turning. I was in a meeting with my assistant at the time and I got a weird notification on my phone from my tesla app and it was like the trunk's open and I was like in beverly hills. So I'm like is somebody breaking into my car in Beverly Hills? Like what the heck? And then it said, like my car alarm was going off. So I was like, okay, I should go check it out and turn the corner. And the whole thing was smashed. And I was like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 49:51

And at the time, like when I was dating this guy long distance, he was supposed to come that weekend and I was like, oh, I'm like $21,000 while I was on vacation and that was more than I had paid for my lease. They paid off my lease and then paid me that. And so it's like everything happens for a reason. So I don't, in those moments I don't think like this is a punishment, because I realized I don't believe in that, I don't want to believe that I'm being punished for things. I do think that we have tests from the universe of like okay, you say you want this up level. Here's your test are like how badly do you want it? How willing are you to figure this out? And I am. I think the tests come when you're going into an up level, but I don't think it ever happens. Can I tell you about my recent test?

Speaker 1: 50:32

Yes, please, girl, I kick myself to this day and I'm trying not to so. After I got into a car accident, they obviously wrote me a check. It wasn't even for that much, but I got to choose between an upgrade. So I had a Ford Explorer. It was already fully loaded, but it was a 2020 and I love my Ford Explorer. And so I got tested from the universe and I chose wrong, because of a scarcity mindset.

Speaker 1: 50:55

So, long story short, they showed me a 2022 Ford Explorer fully loaded. It had the panoramic sunroof, it was beautiful right, it was beautiful, and it was about, I think it was like a $45,000, which is reasonable for that. And then I had my scarcity mindset of like, oh my God, what if I can't afford this? And I chose a car that I absolutely hate every single day. And guess what happened? After I bought this stupid car that I hate, more money came into my life. I was 110% tested.

Speaker 1: 51:29

I could have easily afforded my old baby car, again my white.

Speaker 1: 51:34

Ford Explorer. And now I am driving this brand new car that I can't stand to drive. It is not a vibe, I hate it. I hate driving in it. And I was like never again will I settle, because I can't, I, I I hate the word, I can't afford it. But in my head, because I was quote, unquote again, thinking like I was, I put a label on the car accident happening and I was like I'm being, you know, like I'm being punished, but no, I will never settle, ever again. Money will come and it does come.

Speaker 2: 52:05

So I got tested and yeah, I chose wrong but I will never let that happen again. No, you learned the lesson, and I think one thing that's interesting is people think like oh yeah, I'm being punished and I need to be humbled. I think that's a big thing. And so people are like I'm being punished for this and I need to choose the humble one. And it's like the universe doesn't want want that for you, god doesn't want that for you, like the universe and your higher self always wants you to step into more, and so it's a test of will I leap into more? And I feel like I had that same test after my Tesla crashed.

Speaker 2: 52:34

I got my check. It was like okay, well, what am I going to do now? I'm going to get another Tesla. Do I want to buy a different car? Like and I remember test driving my Range Rover before I bought it and being like oh my God, I want this.

Speaker 2: 52:46

And the monthly payment was like 3.5 times more than the Tesla. Like it was a huge jump. And I was like should I really do this? Cause? I was also living in LA and my rent was super high and I was like should I add this on? Like does this make sense? Or like, am I supposed to get like a normal car again, or like the safe answer, which was lease another Tesla, and I was like no, I really feel like this happened, so I could up level, so I could buy this Range Rover sooner than I thought I could, and I did. And so I always think that it's interesting when we think about punishments, we think punishment and then I need to be humbled and it's a really like degrading thing. So I'm glad that you learned your lesson. Are you going to trade out the car?

Speaker 1: 53:19

Eventually I will. Yeah, yeah, I bought it brand new, so now I am negative $13,000. So what I want to do is just pay off the negative. They're going to buy the car back and I'm going to get the car that I want. So, like I said, don't ever settle, especially if you know for a fact. I knew in that moment I was being tested but I thought, because I'm a mom, what if the money doesn't come, kind of thing. I was just going through all of these like again, old belief systems and I chose wrong and I I kicked myself. I was like no longer will I ever settle, not doing it anymore If something's a little bit more expensive and I want it and I know in my heart I want it. It's not just an ego thing. I wanted that car. I should have just pulled the trigger on it and got it. Yeah, you have to trust yourself.

Speaker 2: 54:02

And that's like I love that we're having this conversation, because I think a lot of people don't know like, do I make the practical, realistic decision or do I trust myself and do the bat shit, crazy, scary thing for me? I'm like no-transcript and now I need to make the extra money to pay the higher rent and I, okay, I signed up for this program or this trip or this retreat. Now I need to manifest the money and like I'm really uploading my life. You view yourself differently and that's what I'm experiencing being in my new house and like we talked about, like my backyard furniture, and just like being in this really up-leveled home. I'm like, oh, okay, so I'm in this really up-leveled space, like I need to live up to this.

Speaker 1: 54:48

I love that you did that. I love that you went after what you want you actually and you can listen to this on her podcast, where everybody's listening but you manifested this house and again like it's just crazy Cause like you could have went into an apartment or whatever, but no, you did something batshit crazy and was like this is the house I want, and you ended up manifesting that I want everybody to listen to that episode Cause it was so good. And also like if I'm sure everybody's already following you on Instagram, but like the I and what we talked about earlier, is like you had your one 80.

Speaker 1: 55:16

Moment and you were like so vulnerable on Instagram and you were like yeah, like this is my life. I can't believe, like I finally did it kind of thing. Like you had a moment.

Speaker 2: 55:25

Yeah, let's tell them about it.

Speaker 2: 55:26

So I basically talked about this on Instagram. So we just moved into a new house, my husband and I, and we have indoor, outdoor living, which is like I've always always wanted, I always had in my Bali villas, and I was like I need this in the U? S, like it was on my vision board and I found the perfect house with it and we have like a full dining room set outside, a full couch, we have a cold plunge, we have a fire pit. That's the last furniture I need. Now that I'm thinking about it, I need fire pit chairs.

Speaker 2: 55:50

Um, but we fully finished it yesterday and my first time I came inside and I closed the door so I could have like a full walk out and really see everything and the I took one step. I wasn't even on the concrete, I was just on the stair and I started sobbing my eyes out because I have never in my life had backyard furniture or like a fully furnished backyard. Like growing up, I had like a tiny deck that was probably the size of this rug and like half the wood on it was broken. So you were kind of like jumping over holes and like literally.

Speaker 2: 56:23

And then there was like three stairs to get to the grass and the like. The middle two stairs were broken. So you just kind of leap down and it was like we had we had a table and four chairs and a grill. Three of the four chairs had holes in the seating part. So you can't even say like I and so I've never had an outdoor setting like that.

Speaker 2: 56:37

And when I lived in LA I had a beautiful patio that I started furnishing and then my brother and I had puppies in the apartment and then they tore apart all the furniture. So it was like anytime I had gone there to either like have it and experience it. It was just I never had it. So being out there and seeing all that just made me ball my eyes out because I was like it's so wild being in this luxury home with this fully furnished backyard. Even walking my house, walking to my bedroom. We bought a new bed frame. I started crying over that because I spent most of my life sleeping on a mattress on the floor and it's so wild and I love like. Going back to the gratitude, it's like I just have so much gratitude for these changes.

Speaker 1: 57:16

So I love that you expressed it, because we also talked about when you are living in the future, so like, if you are that person that is living in a terrible condition, you're in an abusive relationship, whatever, and you want to escape that. Obviously what we do or what we recommend is like, uh, putting yourself in the future kind of thing, like a future tripping and like living in the moment. So when it actually does manifest, you know, it's so easy for us to be like, yeah, okay, well, you know this is normal, right Like so this.

Speaker 1: 57:42

just you just manifested just beautiful house with this like outdoor seating area and your brain is like, yeah, we've been here before. But you allowed yourself to just feel into it and I made a comment. It's like it's almost like little Michaela was coming out and saying look, we did it.

Speaker 2: 58:00

We like, we did it and it was a huge shift and like I had visualized that so much, like it's on my vision boards I have like we're even building out like my walk-in closet, which I have on my Pinterest board 700 times Like, and I know when it's done I'm going to cry walking into that room because it's like holy shit, and for me, I feel like every time I get a manifestation or for the most part, it feels like the visualization, but that was one that just took me over and I was just, I just like poured out with gratitude.

Speaker 1: 58:27

Yeah, you have to recognize those moments, like celebrate them, yeah, cause it's also so easy, like when you do get the hang of manifestation. What I've noticed is like every I started to get a little complacent and I'm like, of course that's happening, because I asked for it to happen, you know. So it's just just sometimes just sit in it, feel it, cry, if you need to, tears of gratification. Um, I like to just make sure that I write down in my journal every single night, like before I go to bed, like the things that like came to fruition and things that I've manifested, and, um, just like sit with it and like, holy, shit Cause sometimes that feeling for me doesn't come to later, because my brain is already, quote unquote, been there.

Speaker 1: 58:58

So it's, it's so easy just to like, lean into it, like of course this is happening, like I called this in and then at the end of the night I'm like, oh my God, like did I really just create that?

Speaker 2: 59:10

Did I really just manifest it.

Speaker 2: 59:11

And when you do get good at manifestation, it's like, yeah, we manifest it, yeah, we manifest it, yeah. And for me, like this isn't even my first luxury home and it's like I feel that way on all my retreats I'm like, yeah, of course, like we filled this up with amazing women and yeah, of course, we're having these crazy cool experiences. And then it's like, oh yeah, this isn't normal, like this isn't what it always has been my normal. And so I think, for me, seeing all the house and all the furniture set up exactly as I wanted Cause I think another thing I've been talking about a lot on my podcast is changing your identity. And for me, when I bought my new desk in my office, it's like this thousand dollar desk I manifested for 50% off, which is so beautiful.

Speaker 2: 59:49

It's from CB2.

Speaker 2: 59:50

It's amazing, all I wanted growing up was like a rich girl house, and so then, seeing it, it was like, oh, this hasn't always been my normal, and I think it was really important for me to share that on my Instagram too, because I think people especially if they've just found me in the last two years or so like, or three years like they're used to seeing me in this luxury life and doing all these cool things. But it's like it's not always been this way, and I do have moments where I'm like, oh my God, like I even texted my mom. I like sent her a video of the backyard and I was like who would have thought I would go from being I literally texted her this who would have thought I would go from being a self-proclaimed pessimist why me victimhood living in our raccoon house to having this backyard? I was like I just can't even believe it. I just can't. And so there's moments you have to soak that up and give yourself gratitude, and my best friend was like you've worked for this Like. This is hard.

Speaker 2: 1:00:38

This is all your hard work pouring back into you, and that's what happens when you do the mindset work.

Speaker 1: 1:00:43

And that's the hard work. So let's not get confused with like you have to hustle your ass off because that's what I thought it was it was. But no, the hard work is working on your mindset and opening up your tunnel and seeing the opportunities and the possibilities around you. That, to me, is what manifest manifestation is, because we are already. Like I said, we are manifesting day in and day out, like whether we know it or not. But to do it consciously, fix your freaking brain, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:01:07

And it's hard, that's, that's definitely the hard work.

Speaker 1: 1:01:10

That is the hard work, because you don't want to do it. It's not the hustle part. You're not out there physically busting your butt, ubering around and all that other stuff. It's, it's literally, it's. It's deep work, it's hard work. You're going to cry a lot, especially if you do shadow, and I know you have a shadow. You have a shadow course, right, what's it called? Again, sexy bitch shadows.

Speaker 1: 1:01:29

That was it, and um, I remember when I first discovered you, I was like crap, I could actually use that. And like I ended up going into therapy and, regardless of however you do it, uh, it's gonna be freaking hard. There was so many nights where I was like crying on my bathroom floor, saying like this it physically hurts yeah, it does, cause it's again.

Speaker 2: 1:01:47

It's that energy stored in your body and then so it's like it's painful to bring it out when we didn't process it in the first place. And I always tell my girls like I also talk a lot about shadow work, my business mastermind. And I tell the girls like, when it comes to shadow work, you're it's going to feel so sticky, you're going to want to walk away. The amount of times I've been doing shadow work and I'll literally just drop my journal, like Like your body just wants to walk away from it.

Speaker 2: 1:02:10

The body always is pushing away from pain right Like it seeks comfort, yes, and you have to go into it if you really want it, because even outside of like actually receiving everything, you want to be able to receive the feelings and you can't receive like these moments of tears of gratitude unless you've gone into, like, the dark nights of the soul. That's that law of polarity. Again, it's like you have to have both sides to really feel the fullness of what you're manifesting.

Speaker 1: 1:02:35

Yeah, oh, my God, I can literally talk to you all day but I'm going to ask you one more question before we sign off. But like what are you actively manifesting right now?

Speaker 2: 1:02:44

Oh my God, the Lambo truck.

Speaker 1: 1:02:45

I know you talk about this like beautiful Lambo truck all the time so that is your next. You've already manifested your live podcasting event, which is so, so good. I loved it. I mean, yeah, no, I absolutely loved it it. It inspired me to also just say fuck it and do whatever the hell I want, because instead of waiting around for somebody to do it for us, that's what I love about you is like you just do it on your own. So fuck it, I'm gonna figure it out. Yeah, exactly. So the Lambo truck.

Speaker 2: 1:03:11

I know I think about my vision board and I'm like, okay. So one of my big goals for the year is I wanted to try out for this dance team here in Austin but they didn't do tryouts so that was really disappointing. So I like had to like yeet that off the vision board that I have my house on their house checked off. I had the indoor outdoor doors on my vision board, so that's checked off. I have like the exact decor that matches my vision board. That's checked off. The live podcast event my soul, that retreats like there's like half my vision boards already done, like a photo shoot I wanted to do. But the big one that I'm like in and out always focused on is my beautiful Lambo truck. And we were at home Depot the other day like getting some stuff for our wardrobe room and they had like toy cars and they had a Lambo truck they had a Lambo truck.

Speaker 1: 1:03:51

They had a Lambo truck. I like to look at those as like when I see synchronicities of like what I'm actively trying to manifest, and then I see it in like a little form like that, like a little toy or something. I'm like okay, the universe is telling me I'm on the right path, I'm almost there, and then it's on the way, and I saw a couple of this weekend too and like this is Austin, Texas.

Speaker 2: 1:04:10

Who the fuck's driving Lambo trucks?

Speaker 1: 1:04:12

Like lifted Fords and Rams.

Speaker 1: 1:04:15

No, not like the nice and I see them all the time, like they're finding me at this point Cause your brain is open and it's like I do believe that it's like the universe or source, or whatever you want to call it saying like girl, it's on its way, look around, they're everywhere. It's not scarcity, this is not a rare thing, like to have a Lambo truck because your brain doesn't you. It's so easy for your brain just to be like no, they're so rare, not everybody gets them. No, you get them, they're not rare. You get it If you want it and you see it in your physical view.

Speaker 1: 1:04:47

You can have it. Yeah, it's my normal I talk about it.

Speaker 2: 1:04:51

I tell people that I meet for the first time. I'm getting a Lambo truck this year and they're probably like what the fuck?

Speaker 1: 1:04:55

But I don't care, I'm like I don't even care. I can totally see that for you. I totally see that for you.

Speaker 2: 1:05:03

I know. So for me it's like the Lambo truck and I think about a lot of my manifestations, not specifically on a timeline, but like there's an order that my year has gone in and, like for my birthday, I did the big photo, like a photo shoot that I wanted to do, that was themed, that was on my vision board, and then in February I had me and my husband going to Bali and my soul that retreat, so that it was like there was kind of an order of things and like a next order on the list is one selling out my tour and then to getting the fucking Lambo truck and oh, and my husband and I are going to Europe. But like there's some things that like they're manifestations, of course, but I'm like also, all I need to do is like book the plane tickets and well, I am manifesting the perfect, like first class itinerary though, so like that's on there as well, but those are like my next ones. And when it comes to the Lambo truck, I'm like I'm so focused, I know what needs to happen, I know I want a $4,000 a month payment and like. So for me it's like okay, these are the very specific things that need to happen, and for me, I do everything through my manifestation formula.

Speaker 2: 1:05:58

So it's like okay, the mindset I need to have, the mindset that other Lamborghini owners have. It's like it's just another car, it's a tax write off, it's this, it's this, it's that, like you're looking for it, like you just have to be the mindset of like this is my normal car. And so anything that I noticed come up in me being like, oh, it's so far away, like, oh, it's expensive. If I think about that, I have to check that the second it comes up. And then, with my rituals, like my magic, I will like meditate and visualize myself getting in the Lambo truck. I will only carry purses that I'm like I would put this in the Lambo truck. I only wear outfits that I would wear in the Lambo truck.

Speaker 2: 1:06:33

Have you test drove one? No Cause, you can't yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:06:37

Oh, so that's a little hard. Cause they always say like if you're trying to manifest like the perfect car, go test drive it. So you cannot test drive.

Speaker 2: 1:06:53

You, can't, I, and if you I'll just rent one for a day, but I can't cause I'm not 30. Okay, like they only like rent out luxury cars when you're 30.

Speaker 1: 1:07:01

I'm thinking you know what you need to do is just go network with the guys that sell those. I know, Can I just sit in it Seriously Like have you ever thought about like going and like talking to them or making friends with those guys that sell them.

Speaker 2: 1:07:13

I need to hear Network just network.

Speaker 1: 1:07:15

Yeah, because those are the guys that are going to be like hey, they're going to be texting you, mckenna. Hey, we're getting a Lambo truck in it's heavily discounted girl, you need to come in right now.

Speaker 2: 1:07:22

We need you to come in. That's what. I'm saying I was being in it, being in that environment, a hundred percent you can't test drive it, go make friends with the people who sell them, literally, and I'm like I need to find somebody who owns one so I can like sit in one. Whenever I see them here in Austin, I literally take photos in front of them, like I'm like, I'm so embarrassing, I have my six-year-old.

Speaker 1: 1:07:43

She's obsessed with the cyber truck and she will take pictures because she has a phone.

Speaker 1: 1:07:47

Yeah, a little bougie, I know, but she has a, an iPhone and she'll take pictures of people's cyber trucks and I'm like, yeah, it's kind of awkward Cause like one time we were at the grocery store at ATB and like this guy parked his cyber truck and my daughter stops, she's obsessed with this damn thing and she takes a picture. And the guy is like, looking at my little six year old, but I was like we can't take pictures of people's cars. She's like mommy, I'm going to have one one day.

Speaker 2: 1:08:08

That's me, that's literally me with a Lambo truck.

Speaker 1: 1:08:11

I'm like, she's sick, she's manifesting, she's obsessed. You know how? Many pictures in, like in the small town I live in in Texas. For whatever reason, there's a lot of cyber trucks there's so many here.

Speaker 2: 1:08:22

There's so many in Texas. I think it's because Elon's based out of here.

Speaker 1: 1:08:37

There's so many, I do not care, I will stop at the door. You and my daughter would be like best friends yeah, Pictures of people's cars. And she'll like send the cyber truck to my mom or like my brother and be like look what I saw.

Speaker 2: 1:08:46

And everybody's like I literally don't care. I, I have such a level of I don't give a fuckness.

Speaker 1: 1:08:51

I will totally do it and I need.

Speaker 2: 1:08:53

I need to start networking with the people at Lamborghini here, because I was getting on the phone and meeting people in LA because I was going to get one when I was there and then I ended up getting the Range Rover and whatever. But I need to do that here and I've just been so obsessed with, like seeing them around Austin so that's the next big manifestation and like I'm really focusing on changing my mindset Anytime like those doubts come up, doing my visualizations, like my car, my house key, is a Lambo truck. My phone background is me standing in front of a Lambo truck, like it's, it's happening.

Speaker 1: 1:09:21

It is happening yeah. I can't wait for that episode on your podcast, the day that you get your freaking Lambo truck.

Speaker 2: 1:09:28

Cause I'm going to be like freaking out. Cause I'm going to be like freaking out, I'm going to be like I knew she could do it. Everyone's going to be like we need to have a meetup.

Speaker 1: 1:09:33

Everybody, all of your listeners, are going to be losing their damn minds the day you get this truck.

Speaker 2: 1:09:39

I swear, I literally can't. I'm going to have to do like a full launch just of photos. Oh my God, please do so. That's my next big manifestation. She's coming in hot, I have no doubt. I have no doubt.

Speaker 1: 1:09:52

And for the people who are living under a rock. How can we find you on social media, your?

Speaker 2: 1:09:56

podcast, everything, everything. You can find me anywhere on the internet at the Michaela J, and you can find my podcast on any podcast platform Mindset magic manifestation.

Speaker 1: 1:10:06

Yeah, I love it, and I'll link everything in the show notes and all of your courses too. I took your seven days to the money a while ago and that was my very first self-development course I've ever taken. And I just want to promote your courses too, so I will have all of those fun links in the show notes. If you guys again don't know where to start, don't know what action step to take, you're just sitting and waiting for something to happen. Take the action step, take a freaking course, just take a course.

Speaker 2: 1:10:35

It's life changing.

Speaker 1: 1:10:36

It. Is it really? It's going to open up your mind. You don't know what you don't know, and it's going to give you those ideas of how to get unstuck and to get out of your stagnant you know mindset, so you have to get into solution mode, Like you have to start seeking solutions and especially if you're the type of person who you're like I need.

Speaker 2: 1:10:53

I need a step-by-step and you're listening to the podcast and you're reading the books and it's motivating you and you know it's time to do something different, but you don't know where to go. Like jump in a program, Like I'm like, if you want a major life transformation, join my program, the Emma method. It's like four months, literally step-by-step by step, seven days. The money's is great. When you're starting out with manifesting money. It's like follow a method from somebody who's done it and embodies it. If you come up to me at target, I will not be rude to you. Exactly, I live out this stuff, I promise.

Speaker 1: 1:11:21

I honestly feel like you cannot have the exclusive. I can't afford it. You guys, there's so many ways. There's creative financing out there. I know PayPal has a zero interest for six months and you guys, all of these courses have an ROI, so a return on investment. You are going to get that money back. Invest in yourself. Maybe stop buying your Starbucks or, you know, going out to the to dinner every single night. Do something that has a return on investment. Take a freaking course. Find some creative financing by the course. You will thank yourself later. It has an ROI.

Speaker 2: 1:11:53

And it like makes you feel so differently about yourself. Like I was buying courses and mentors when I was 19,. Like dishing out like thousands of dollars Cause I was just willing to figure it out because I wanted that change so badly. And like when you do that, you invest in yourself. Like like, yes, of course you're investing in yourself, but like you genuinely change the way you feel about yourself because you're like, well, if I'm willing to invest in myself, like I'm willing to take action for myself, like I feel better about myself.

Speaker 1: 1:12:19

Exactly, it comes with it. It comes with the mindset. Thank you so much, michaela. I appreciate you so, so much, and I can't wait to have you on another time.

Speaker 2: 1:12:27

Yeah, maybe the next one will be in the Lambo truck.

Speaker 1: 1:12:29

I know, oh my gosh, that would be amazing that would be crazy If we did the recording in the truck.

Speaker 2: 1:12:34

Yeah, like we'll get some portable microphones and like set up the video in the middle, I'll bring the coffee.

Speaker 1: 1:12:39

Yes, okay, it's happening, okay, thank you so much.

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