#23. My Healing Breathwork Experience: Owaken Breathwork

Join me on this psychedelic, emotional journey where I share my recent experience at the Owaken Breathwork event in Los Angeles, an event where hundreds of strangers lay side by side to breathe deeply, release stored trauma, gain clarity, and encounter massive breakthroughs.

In this episode, I explain some of the fascinating science behind “Conscious Connected Breath”, a breathing pattern that allows us to access the subconscious mind and even have psychedelic, hallucinatory, out-of-body experiences. I also share the emotional depths of my own experience at this recent Owaken Breathwork event along with the Owaken Breathwork event I attended in 2019 in Bali, Indonesia.

If you’re ready to go a little deeper than your conscious waking mind will allow you, tune into this episode and discover a whole new world that’s available to us using only the breath!

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You're not relying on any sort of substance, but you're actually using the power of your own oxygen and. CO2 ratios to induce these. Non ordinary states of consciousness having out-of-body. Experiences speaking to deceased loved ones. I mean, that is crazy that we have the ability to do that. On our own just by. Getting high off our own supply. Hello, my friends. Welcome to It's All Magic. I am your guide, your host and your friend, Devon Heyn. And here we'll be discussing how to make your life truly feel like magic. I believe that our very existence on earth is nothing less than a miracle. And that we all have so much potential to learn, to grow, to experience and to create during our short time here. It is both my passion and my pleasure to walk this path of life optimization by your side. We will discuss topics like passion, purpose, intuition, manifestation, physical well-being, and much, much more. I'm a yoga teacher, a meditation and breathwork facilitator, and a National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach. But more importantly, I am an eternal optimist, a lover of life and a forever student. It is my hope that with each and every episode, you too will finally start to believe it really is all magic after all. Ready to dive in? Let's do it. Hello, my friends, and welcome back to another amazing episode of It's All Magic. How are you doing today? How is your body? How is your mind? How is your spirit? I can definitely share that. I'm feeling a little bit sleepy. I recently got back from a really incredible weekend trip. To L.A., where I was visiting. One of my best. Friends and. Attending a very special event that I will be discussing. Today. But it was. Definitely one of those whirlwind weekends where, you know, I wasn't sleeping great in this foreign bed. I was so excited to be with my friend. We were doing so many different activities. I had this emotionally exhausting event that I will be sharing with you and I'm now just feeling the effects. And yet, because I took a couple of days off, I'm now having to catch up. So it's kind of that tough situation of I had a blast and now I'm exhausted from the blast. And I have a lot of. Stuff to do. So I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling that way, but no matter how you're feeling, I hope that you're just taking it with a grain of salt, recognizing that it's temporary. This too, shall pass. So whether you're having the best day of your life or it's a bit of a tough week, know that you are not alone. Someone in the world is feeling the exact same way as you are right now, and this too shall pass. So before I dive into today's episode where I share about a really transformational. Life shifting event that I attended in L.A.. I want to open up with a little. Bit of breathwork as always. And this is actually extremely timely because the event that I will be sharing. With you today was actually a Breathwork event. So in order to kind of get into that time and space again, mentally and emotionally. For me, I want to tap into the power of breath and allow you the same opportunity. So today I want us to do box breathing or equal ratio breath. I believe we've done this before on the podcast, but in case you are. A new listener, or if somehow my. Memory deceives me and we have not done this breathing pattern. Before, just know a couple of things. This breathing pattern. Is super beginner friendly. It's very simple, but it's a great way to balance your body and bring yourself back into harmony. So if you've been feeling a little bit off kilter or if you've been feeling a little too stressed. A little tired, whatever it may be, towards any extreme, this will bring your body right back to center. This breathing practice is so powerful that it's actually taught in boot camp for U.S. Navy SEALs. For them to. Utilize this practice during times of high stress. So whenever they have to bring themselves back to center and really focus and kind of get back in the zone, they practice this breathing pattern. So it's called. Box breathing or equal ratio breath, because we are going. To essentially be drawing a box with our. Breathing. I will. Explain. So we will breathe. In and out of the nose, will breathe in for a count of five, hold at the top for a count of five. Breathe out through the nose for a count of five. Hold the bottom for. A count of five. So if you're watching this on YouTube, you might see I'm literally drawing. A box with my finger. Going. Up with that. Inhale to the side for that. Hold down for the exhale and to the side for that hold. So if you have the opportunity to close your eyes, I invite you to do so. We're going to just do three rounds today to keep it really simple. But I hope that this gives you. A little taste of the harmony you might be. Craving so that you can. Practice it more later on your own time. So closing down the eyes if you have the opportunity, let's go ahead and take one full breath together before we begin. Box breathing. So breathing in through the nose, filling up all the way and open mouth. Let this one out. beautiful. And begin your count of five. Inhale through the nose. Hold at the top. Exhale through the nose. Hold at the bottom. Inhale through the nose. Hold at the top. Exhale through the nose. Hold at the bottom. And last round. Inhale through the nose. Hold at the top. Exhale through the nose. Hold at the bottom. One last cleansing breath. Just fully inhale. Through the nose. Filling up all the way in. Open mouth. Release this one. Gorgeous. As always, you can once. Again flutter open your eyelids if you got the chance. To close them. I hope that just by taking those few deep breaths, you are a little. Bit more aware of how you are doing. I asked you at the beginning of this episode, How's your body, how's your mind? How's your spirit? And you might not have known. I feel like we often are either numb. Or just operating on autopilot. To the point where we don't. Really know how we're feeling. But the second we take a second to sit in silence and breathe a little bit, it brings forth that awareness of how we're actually doing. So I was feeling a little. Tired before, and now I'm about ready for a nap. So if I lived in the perfect world, which I am trying to craft for myself as we speak, I would take a nap after this, so maybe I'll allow myself even an hour of some downtime because I could definitely use it. And I'm sure. I'm not alone. And before we. Dive into the event that I'm sharing with you today, I just wanted to make. A quick. Disclaimer that if you enjoy the breathwork at the beginning of these videos and you want to learn even more techniques, ones that I might not be sharing on this podcast. Go subscribe. To my YouTube channel. It's Devon Rochelle Heyn. So Devon. Rochelle.. And then last name h e y n I tell you to subscribe there because I plan on. Releasing some breathwork videos soon. If not already. By the time you listen to this. So if you want to be able to. Practice these breathing patterns on your own time unattached from. this podcast host, then you'll definitely want. To check out the Breathwork videos I have coming there soon. So with. All of that behind us, I. Can finally share more about the. Amazing event that I attended this weekend. I attended the Owaken Breathwork event in Los Angeles, California. If you are not aware of the Breathwork group Owaken, it's not spelled the. Way you think it is. It's spelled o w. A k e n The reason why I wanted. To highlight that is because. The O symbolizes. Oxygen. You're awakening through oxygen. They've actually changed their name to awaken. But when I first. Got to experience. The magic of their breathwork facilitation, it was actually back in 2019 and they were called the. O2 Awakening to the Oxygen. Awakening. The reason why they're. Called the O2. Awakening or Owaken Breathwork is because they facilitate these events using a form of. Breathwork called. Conscious connected breathing. When you do. Conscious, connected breathing, it actually helps to shift your body and mind into non ordinary states of consciousness where you can tap into subconscious beliefs. Trauma triggers, fears, grief. Etc.. Bring. Them to your conscious awareness and then work through them and release them. So these breathing events are real emotionally intense. I hope that will come through by the end of this episode. But they are transformational. And healing beyond words. Owaken Breathwork. Was founded by two. Amazing souls Helle Weston and Lukis Mac. I've actually talked about Helle on this podcast before, this is crazy. This hadn't even occurred to me until this morning when I was just going through some of my notes and prepping for the episode. But I realized I. Talked about Helle in maybe my first or second podcast episode because she is indirectly the reason why I finally started this podcast. She's the one you might remember the story. She's the one that I had heard on another podcast talking about intuition, and that if you hear the same intuitive message more than once and you don't listen to it. You're nuts. You're an idiot. And at that point I had gotten the intuitive message to start a. Podcast so many different times. And I suppose it was just the fear, the procrastination holding me back. And the second I heard that podcast, I went home and I said to Cal, It's time I'm starting the podcast. So thank you, Helle If you ever listen to this episode, I really am so grateful that you gave me that final nudge I needed. And then by me. Sharing your message on this episode or on this. Podcast, I know that I have since. Given the shove or the nudge to others who needed it as well. So thank you. But Helle and Lukis are two incredible souls. They started a week in Breathwork, where back then it was the O2 Awakening back in 2017. So they've been doing this for quite. A few years. At this point in time, and they have facilitated breathwork events. All over the globe. They also have breathwork facilitator trainings. They have YouTube videos where they share their Owaken Breathwork that you can do every single day. It's just this five minute daily practice that is incredibly powerful to help you tap into your intuition and receive the clarity and messages that you might be seeking. So I cannot recommend them enough. But I. Felt so honored to get to go. To this event. After so many years of wanting. To, because back in 2019 I actually. Got to experience. Their magic. I was on a. Wellness retreat in Bali, Indonesia, and they were honestly the cherry on top of the retreat. at the time I didn't even know. Much about Breathwork. I had done some basic pranayama, some basic breathwork in yoga classes and even my own yoga teacher training. But this was a form of breathwork that I had never. Heard of. Or tapped into, so it blew my freaking mind. So they came to facilitate the Breathwork. They first explained some of the science behind it. The fact that. This. Form of conscious, connected breathing helps you to actually tap into your sympathetic nervous system, which is that stress response, that fight or flight or freeze response. And by tapping into your sympathetic nervous system, you can actually retrieve some. Of those past stressors, traumas, triggers, fears. Grief, etc. that you have buried down deep because we all do it. And by bringing it to the surface, you can work through it and release it. And they had explained. Or I've also since heard in many other breathwork trainings. That I've done that if you look around at animals in the wild, when they endure some sort of trauma or stressor, their bodies will actually shake. And this often happens to people in car crashes. I know that my mom was once in a car accident and she said that her body shook for a little bit afterwards. We've all probably. Experienced some of some form of this. But for most of us who live in a society that says that you. Cannot shake in public at random times, we push that stress down. And when the animals do it in the wild, let's say a prey animal has just been chased by a predator and they got away. That animal will shake until that stress has truly left their body. And then it's not buried down deep. They won't have. To relive that experience in therapy. 15 years down the road. Because they've already. Released it in the moment. But we as humans don't do that. So we have so much to store. Up in our body tissues. And by accessing this breath, tapping into that sympathetic nervous system, you can bring that to the surface and then let it go. So before I explain my own experience, first, the one. That I had in Bali and then the one that I had a few. Days ago in 20. 24, I wanted to briefly touch on Helle and Lukis' stories. Granted, They tell them far better than I can. So I hope to have them on the podcast soon so that they can share from their own hearts. But I wanted to share because I feel like their stories are a really powerful example of how this breathwork can truly transform a life. So Helle and Lukis both grew up in New Zealand. Hell, I grew up. With both of her parents being deejays and coming with that kind of lifestyle. They both struggled with mental health issues and a lot of drug abuse issues. And so, hell, I grew up surrounded by that all the time to the point where she had to become an adult, almost like the parent figure, a little bit too young, feeling like she had to take care of her parents. And with that came a lot of sensitivity. She was a really sensitive child, but she had. To kind of. Learn how to push that down and ignore it and not focus on it just so that she could take care of her parents and be that adult that they needed her to be even at a young age. She also explained that her father has always been very hyper critical of her and judgmental of her choices and her values. And so. It's just been a constant struggle of. Not feeling like she was enough and in a way not getting to fully be a child. And so by the time she was in her teenage years, I mean, she had started to struggle with severe mental health issues herself. There were days where she felt like she just couldn't get out of bed. She had this crippling and depression and anxiety. And again, just this. What some might call an. Oversensitivity. I actually believe her sensitivity is one of her superpowers. Which she would probably in the. Present day agree with. But at the time it was really difficult. So that was. Her story that I will get back to in just a moment. But I want to bring Lukis into this story. Also mentioned that Lukis and are dating. They've been together for 17 years. So they lived through a lot of these. Difficult years together and since have moved into a completely different life as a team. So Lukis grew up with his mom and his dad, and his dad committed suicide when Lukis was only seven years old. And because Lukis, his mom, was. Grieving so much. Lukis felt like. He had to be strong for her. So he pushed down his grief as a seven year old child and. Refused. To feel it. He had to just keep marching forward. And I'm sure there are some some of you. Out there right now that can resonate with that. You might be able to resonate with both stories having to grow up before you were really ready, being really sensitive in a world that doesn't cater to that feeling like you have to push down your grief, push down your emotions just to get through the day and be strong enough. So that was Lukis's struggle. And so. Through their experiences, they both had a lot of. Not enough ness. If you will. They both felt like they just weren't good enough. And one day in their journey, once Hella especially had started getting a little bit into meditation and. All of the self-help stuff, she heard about. This Breathwork class going on and she had. No idea what Breathwork was. But for some reason she intuitively felt called to go. And so she said. To her boyfriend, Lukis, she said, Lukis, we're going to this. Breathwork class. And he said, Are you crazy? I know how to breathe. I'm not going to some stupid breathwork class. Like, what is that? And she said, I don't know, but we have to go. And, you know, he kept refusing and she was like, Lukis. We're going to the Ding Breathwork class. So they finally went to the Breathwork class. And they were in for a ride. They had no idea of what to expect and how. I even said it. This event a few days ago. That. That facilitator. Barely even explained what they were about to get into. So they truly went. In completely blind to. This. Highly. Emotional. Sometimes psychedelic experience. So for Heller's experience. About ten, 15 minutes into it, she said she started to literally float above her body. She could look down at herself. She felt like she was floating in the cosmos. And she received a lot of healing messages, things about, Yes, she is enough. You are good enough. You are exactly as you're meant to be and you are perfect the way you are. And so that was healing for her. On so many. Levels, saying it through my words. Now it doesn't have the same weight as when you actually feel it in a breathwork event. And I hope to share some of my own experience so that you can feel a little bit more of that weight. Hearing from my own heart. But when Heller was sharing her story, she said that it was. Beyond. Transformational, that it was truly the words she always needed to hear. So while. She was having this whole. Out-Of-Body experience. Lukis was. Right by her side, having his unique experience where he actually got to communicate with his deceased father and he saw his father come to him and his father looked directly at Lukis and said, You are enough, my son. You've always been enough. My son. And Lukis is sobbing during this Breathwork event, which he also. Said. He was never a crier. I mean, from the time he was seven and his father died, he pushed down that grief. So he had a lot of walls and barriers. Up. Around the ability to cry. He never released any sort of emotion. And yet 10 minutes into this breathwork experience, he is wailing like a child. And hell, I had a similar experience where she is sobbing and just releasing years and years of pent up emotion. So they both had this incredible experience. They left the. Breathwork event feeling like. my gosh, we had no idea what was in store for us. We're not done with this journey. There's a lot of healing to be done, and something about this feels right for us. Now, granted, Hella said that she didn't even feel ready to do another Breathwork ceremony for a while because. She then. Knew the power that it had to tap into deeply uncomfortable memories and emotions. And so she felt like she had to. Gather more of her toolkit, her emotional. Support system, before she could endure that again. And I can say as someone who's done. A few of these. At this point, she was absolutely right. You have to be in. The right state of mind. But there are also these incredible studies of this form of breathwork. Helping to. Heal people. With the. Darkest of mental health issues. This form of breathing helps to tap into the darkest, deepest parts of our. Subconscious psyche and really Hewlett and work through it in ways that we might not be able to when we are consciously engaging in something like talk therapy. So for people that are. Struggling deeply conscious, connected, breathwork is an incredibly healing tool. And beyond the Breathwork, there's one other tool that Lukis and. Hailey use every single time they lead an event that I think is equally as transformational. So they have the conscious connected breathwork, which. Helps to really. Carry the event and bring us deep into that psyche. But then they and their other facilitators that they bring to these events use a technique called EFT, Emotional Freedom technique, otherwise known as tapping. If any of you are in therapy, you might have experienced this technique. It's very, very popular and common among therapists these days because it has been proven. To also work. On the deepest, darkest mental health issues. In a 2013 study, for example, they had a group of veterans with extreme PTSD go through this study. Some of them got to experience FTD. So emotional freedom technique, otherwise known as tapping, and others did not. By the end of the. Month, the veterans. With PTSD that had experienced the tapping over 50% of them. No longer. Were diagnosed with PTSD. They had actually released their symptoms and experience of PTSD. It had healed them that strongly. So I can. Attest to the fact that through my own experience. This tapping thing. Is the real work. The way the tapping works, this is my rudimentary understanding, at least, is that it uses the same meridian hot spot. So kind of the energy channels throughout your body that acupuncture relies on. So both acupuncture and tapping are these ancient Chinese medicinal techniques. And in both cases, you are putting pressure on these energy channels, these meridians throughout your body. To help with. The energy flow, because it's believed that as energy gets stuck in our body, that actually contributes. To the dark. Heavy challenge emotions that we experience. And as you release the pressure or put down pressure to change the flow of that energy, it completely changes your experience. And again, I can attest to the fact. That it works. So back in 2019 when I was in Bali and these two amazing souls, Helle and Lukis, facilitated the Breathwork experience. The way it. Worked then and the way it worked a few days ago, five years later, is that. You go. On about an. Hour long breathwork. Journey as they explain. So in the. Beginning they break down some of the silent science. They give you some disclaimers of. What you might experience because it can be really weird. Some people feel a little lightheaded, some people feel tingling in their hands and their feet. Because the form of breathwork. That I've been talking about, conscious, connected breathwork is actually a. Form of controlled. Over breathing. I say controlled because you are conscious the whole time. You're aware and it's over breathing because in a way it's a form of hyperventilation. Although hyperventilation is not controlled. So that's why I'm saying it is. Controlled over. Breathing. And again, the reason why are over breathing is partially to help stimulate that sympathetic, stressed out nervous system to tap into those emotions and memories. But also by doing this over breathing. You actually release little too much. CO2 from your body and it causes. Your blood vessels. To shrink up to narrow, and it decreases. Blood. Circulation throughout your body, especially to your brain. And the way that it changes your brain is fascinating. Again, I will definitely have. Helle or Lukis or both on. The podcast to better explain this, but from what I myself have learned is that you are essentially decreasing blood flow to the areas of the brain that are super conscious or conscious of. Self. Conscious of the passage of time, things that essentially keep you grounded in the here and the now on this earth. And instead what happens is lots. Of out of body experiences. Lots of release. Of trauma and a sense of deep peace and relaxation by the end, almost psychedelic. Hallucinatory. Experiences, conversations with deceased. Loved ones and much, much more. So people have had all. Sorts of different experiences when doing this form of breathing. And I myself have had some. Of the most powerful hours of my life. While doing this breathing pattern as well. So that, paired with the tapping at these events, gives you an experience unlike any other. So back in 2019, again, they had. Explained all of this. And then they had us lay down. On our yoga. Mats. You could put an eye mask on a blanket, get comfortable, and they had to start the breathing. And you do the breathing for about an hour. So I'll just share very quickly or show very quickly what the breathing looks like. So the whole. Time you're breathing in and out of your mouth. Which you don't want to. Do in your normal day to day life. You typically want to. Breathe in and out of your. Nose, which helps keep your parasympathetic nervous system. That relaxation response turned on. But in this specific situation, because you were consciously. Trying to induce your controlled over. Breathing. To induce these non. Ordinary states, you have to breathe in and out of your mouth. So it looks and sounds like this. So you might have noticed there's no pause. Between my inhale and my exhale. That's why it's called conscious connected breath, because it's truly this cycle. You inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale. And that's how you end up, quote unquote, over breathing. So when I had laid down in 2019 to start the breathing. My first thoughts were, this is so freaking hard, which is true. They even warn you at the beginning of the events, but it's called breath. Work for a reason. You have to put in the work and then at a certain point in these journeys, you get over kind of that conscious hump and move into a deeper state of consciousness where your body takes. over the breathing for you, and you can start to drift and float a little bit. But in the beginning. It is. Hard work. And the reason why is. Because your body starts telling you Enough. Dude, I've had enough. Oxygen, I've let go of enough CO2. Stop breathing. And that can actually happen. So in my experience in 2019, when I had started doing the breath work, I found myself I'm barely even aware of this. I would stop breathing because I had enough oxygen, and then it would be, I don't know, maybe a minute later. I have no. Idea what the passage of time looks like. But I would then start breathing again and I would remember, I'm not breathing. And at one point I had rolled over onto my side, whereas most of us are just laying flat on our back. So I rolled over onto my left side, curled up in this little fetal position. And again, I would just stop breathing and I would just lay there in this little bowl. And at one point Lukis had come over and I think he he spoke to me a little. He coached me through it. And he started tapping. I believe he started tapping somewhere on my chest or my collarbone. I can't quite remember. And as soon as he started tapping, I started sobbing. Something about him tapping into that energy meridian and me feeling that physical human touch while having someone speak to me coached me through it, talk to me, be there for me. It was this great release. This. Outpouring of emotion that I didn't even know was stored way down deep. And so he's there for me as I'm. Sobbing and sobbing. And finally he gets to a point where he is able to kind of. Roll me. Over onto my back because they typically want you on your back when you roll onto your side. That's just one of many different methods your body has to protect yourself as you start sensing, quote unquote, danger or you're getting close to those stored traumas or stressors, your body will do anything to protect itself. And so for me, by turning onto my side, curling up into this. Little. Protective fetal position and stopping breathing, I was stopping the journey for myself, and I wasn't even conscious of it. But that's what my body was doing. And so Lukis helped. Me say, Hey, keep breathing in, out, in, out, keep going deeper. He started tapping and he helped me through it. And it ended up being such an incredible experience because once he had gotten me on my back and. Helped. Me to keep breathing and start releasing, and I think once he got me to that point where I was. Having this. Emotional release, it's like I wasn't as afraid to tap into that anymore. But I. Suppose subconsciously, before. He got to me, I was terrified of it, which is why it stopped breathing. So at that point, for the rest of the journey, I don't even know how long it was, but I was sobbing, sobbing, and that's very common. Most people in. These Breathwork events are either sobbing. Some are screaming. Crying out laughing. It's all forms of stored emotions. That we have not let ourselves witness or tap into. And so for me personally, I was crying about all sorts of things and it's not always. Sad tears as well. I remember by the end of that experience. And it was kind of similar to the. Experience I had this time I was. Almost. Laughing. Tears of joy, tears of relief, of relaxation, of self assurance and confidence. And it was the wildest thing. But I had. Had to go through the full tragic diary, the full journey of deep. Sadness and grief, to come out on the other side, to lightness and laughter. And at the end of my experience, I remember having this really strong. Vision that was absolutely a message for me. I can't remember all the details of the Breathwork experience five years later, but this I do remember, and it was that I had a vision of the Teletubby son, baby or baby son. If you know what I'm talking about, you can picture it too, in the show Teletubbies that I grew up watching some of us did. There is a sun in the sky that literally has this giggling. Laughing baby face in the sun. And the message I was receiving was, I am that tell it to the sun, baby, that I have the same. Warmth and brightness. And joy. Like. Unconditional joy in this. Lifetime. And that it's a gift for me to be the Teletubby Sun baby. And maybe that's why I started laugh crying because it felt so aligned. It resonated so deeply that that is what I see myself as. And I just felt so content to be exactly that. But through that experience, I had also healed a lot of limiting beliefs. Sadness, seeking. Approval from certain people. And. So much so that was such a transformational. Experience that. All these years. Later, five years later, after I myself done breathwork. Facilitation. Training and endless breathwork sessions. When I heard that there was going. To be an Owaken breathwork event in Los Angeles, I decided I'm getting on a plane and I'm going to this thing. So I. Attended a few days. Ago as I'm recording this and it was just so incredible. So what happened for me this time? I got comfortable. I laid on my back, I brought my blanket. Sleeping, I. Mask and I started the. Breathwork. And guess what? At first again, it was really freaking hard. It's so uncomfortable. It's like you have to shut down. All of your body's response is to say, Keep breathing, keep going. And this time. Instead of stopping. Breathing, my body. Chose a different response. I kept yawning. And by. Yawning, I. Would slow. Down breath so that I essentially was hitting a threshold. I couldn't I couldn't go. Deeper because when we slow our breath, we help to turn off. The sympathetic nervous. System. We help to calm ourselves. And so I kept yawning. And when I say kept, I mean. Probably in that first. Maybe 15, 20 minutes, I might have yawned 25 times at least like an odd amount of times. And I was thinking, my gosh, am I. Just so tired? Is it going to ruin this event? And so I kept trying to breathe, kept trying to breathe. And finally it occurred to me before we started this breathing, they had said, if you ever need help, you can raise your hand. And I. Was battling. With myself in this moment. I was like, Should I ask for help. Should I not ask for help? Should I ask for help? Should I not ask for help? And I eventually swallowed my pride and thought. I want to ask for help because I want to make the most of this experience. And I feel that my body is stopping me from going as deep as I'd like to go, because my intention. For this experience was to go into the deepest parts of myself. I'm always yearning to heal those limiting. Beliefs, to become aware of these unconscious ideas and beliefs that I have. To release stored trauma as stressors, fears. Grief. And to come. Out the other side is my most free, light, vibrant. Self. And so when I kept yawning, I was kind of pissed at myself, like, stop with the freaking yawning Devon. And at that point in the experience, I could hear other. People having an. Emotional release. and I was almost jealous. It was like I flew. All the way down to Los Angeles for this event. To have some sort of transformational experience. And I'm just yawning I'm like half taking a nap. So anyway, I. Raised my hand and. None other. Than Helle, Weston herself came crouching next to me, which. Was absolutely. Crazy because Helle and Lukis had brought. I want to say, 11 or 13 different. Breathwork facilitators that they have personally trained. So I could have gotten any one. But I got one of the two founders of Owaken Breathwork who are. So talented beyond measure. And so Helle comes and crouches beside me. I believe she touched my arm, so I picked up my eye mask and I looked at her and I said. I want to go deeper. I keep yawning, can you help me? And she said, Absolutely. And she said, You're yawning because your body is trying to stop you from going deeper. And she explained to me after the event when I was sharing my experience in front of everyone, when I talked about the yawning, she said it's called the dorsal vagal response. Essentially the dorsal vagal response. Is when your body. Is. Encountering long danger. Some sort of fear. Of something you are about to embark on or endure, your body will shut down. The dorsal vagal response is the freeze response. In that fight or flight freeze stress response. And oftentimes. When you're in that dorsal. Vagal response, you get really. Tired. You beyond a lot, you start to just feel helpless. It's almost like you you give up. It's as if you're. Standing on a railroad track, seeing the train coming directly at you, and rather than. Jumping off the tracks, you freeze. You just like. Can't do anything. And that is a version. Of the dorsal vagal response. And so she'd explained that happens very frequently during these breathwork ceremonies where you don't want to tap into all of that untapped stuff. And so she gave me the brief. Version of that when I was actually in the breathwork as she's crouching next to me and she said, at that point, I believe I was. Turned. Over on my side again, on my left side in the fetal position. And so she rolled me over and she said, Do you mind if I set you up? And I said, okay. And so she sat me up and she said, okay, start breathing again. And so I began the breath and she started tapping my lower middle back. And within point 5 milliseconds, I started pulling literally bawling. And I don't know if that. Has to do with the dorsal vagal response because of course the dorsal is. The back side. Maybe that's why she chose that particular Meridian Point or energy field. But she started tapping my middle lower back and just saying. What felt like very. Tailored words to me. I don't know how she. Knew that this. Is what I needed, but it was so aligned. She was saying, You can be both fiery and gentle, fiery and gentle. You need to be the woman that your inner child needs you to be fiery and gentle. Strong and soft. And something about those words felt so personalized. For me and. So personal, like I can be this big, bold, bright at risk taking Leo woman with a microphone in hand, wanting to take on the world and spread light and love everywhere she goes. But I can also be soft and nurturing with myself and be kind to myself. Give myself the sense of approval that I'm often seeking from. Those around me, knowing that I myself am enough. I have my back, I am strong and. Soft and something about her words. Just had me sobbing. Absolutely sobbing. And so she stayed there. I mean, continuing to tap on my back as she's speaking these words to me. Keep breathing, fiery and gentle, keep breathing. And after I don't even know. How long it was, I would say minutes she came behind me. And at that point, I had placed my left hand on my heart, just not even thinking I wasn't aware of this. But I suppose that was almost a form of self protection, self nurturing. As I was. Going through this emotional response. She sat behind me and she placed her hand on my hand and kept tapping my back with her other hand. And she just said, You were loved, you were supported, you were loved, you were supported, and that. Somehow I felt. Like. The medicine. For my inner child that. All of our inner children often feel alone or unsupported or unloved or. Like we're not enough. And hearing those. Words. Having this stranger have her hand over my hand on my heart and having. Her sit behind me, like really protecting me, holding me and nurturing me, I started wailing like I if I thought I was sobbing before, this was unreal. It's like I'm coughing on my own sobs. I can barely breathe. And yet through it, I'm still continuing to do my over. Breathing, my conscious, connected breath. And so I did that for a while with her. Continuing right by my side, you know, holding me tapping on me. And finally, after I had kind of released most of it, she had me lay back down and she got near my feet and she just continued to kind of press into my feet, into my ankles to kind of ground my system, my nervous system again. And at that point, probably I had let go of a lot of the sadness, kind of the darkness. I once again moved into the light side of the. Journey and after I had had. All of these thoughts. About how I can be exactly the woman I need myself to be, because that was something else she said that I can be everything my inner child needed and everything my. Future. Self needs me to be that I can be strong and soft, fiery and gentle. I had had all these thoughts of independence and. Just being able to do it on my. Own. And then by the end of the journey. I started silently, sobbing tears of love and gratitude for Kal, my husband. Just knowing that I have been granted the greatest gift by having him as my best friend, my mate, my partner for life, and that he will support me in all the ways I need him to and that. He will travel the world with me and support my dreams of starting a podcast and nurture me on the days. That I am soft and. Take me up on the days where I am fiery and I'm burned out. He will be there for the. Whole journey each and every day. And he's simply the. Best life partner I could have ever wished for or imagined. And so as I was picturing him and I was picturing me just hugging him, especially being apart from him for the weekend in L.A., and these silent tears of love and gratitude just started falling down my face. And I could. Not wipe the smile off of my face. So I had truly this transformational experience. Of. Releasing the need for approval from those. Around me, especially those around me, that I can't always. Get that approval from being. Okay with that, recognizing that I am all I need, that I can continue to make decisions from my own gut, my own intuitive guidance system, my own values that I will be okay. I am fiery and gentle, soft and strong. And I also have this life partner. So I'm never actually alone. And it was simply a beautiful, beautiful experience. And by the time the breathing had actually ended, we were guided to start breathing in and out of our nose again. Lukis up front started to guide us into a visualization meditation, and he said, I want you to envision yourself in a nature scene. And at that point I pictured myself in a jungle. And if you've been listening to this podcast for a while, you'll. Know that I had a past. Life regression episode recently. Where. We were also guided to visualize ourselves in a garden. And I picture the jungle. And it's so funny. I've not really spent time in jungles before. I'm not from a jungle. We don't even really have that in my. Home. Country. And yet something. About it, I guess my. Soul feels really comfortable there. Which is also funny because I've shared on this podcast that Kal and I will be moving at least temporarily, to Thailand in a few short months, and Thailand has tons of jungles. So if you don't think that's synchronistic, I don't know what is. So anyway, I pictured myself in this jungle and it was so beautiful. And every time I picture myself in a jungle. It's so vibrant and. Colorful and buzzing. With life and. Animals. And so I'm walking through the jungle. And eventually. He guided us to a door and he said, When you open this door, you will meet your. Future self. And I want you to ask your future self. For messages. Of guidance, clarity, whatever you may need right now. And it was so wild when I opened the door, I saw my future self. But she like. Me now. She looks like me in the present moment. More specifically, she looked exactly like how I looked filming a an episode that I recorded a few weeks ago about. My past life regression. Experience. I was wearing this new top that I had gotten over the holidays was brown tube top, and my hair was really wild. It had been in braids the day before, and so I had to let it loose and it was all wavy. And something about my energy that day or my outfit. Or my hair or something. I felt so me, it felt like I was wearing my soul on the outside. And so I felt really beautiful. And it wasn't because of. What I was wearing. I mean, I. Wear all sorts of things all the time, but it was something. About the energy I was embodying that day. And so when I opened the store storm the meditation, I saw her. I saw myself from a matter of weeks ago, and yet this was meant to be my future self. And I almost looked at her in confusion. And in this meditation she just gave me a hug and she smiled and said, I'll see you in Thailand. And I mean, it also makes me giddy thinking about it like it's so just sweet and wholesome. So I gave her a hug and I said, okay, I'll see you in Thailand. And I started. Backing. Up through the door and she was waving goodbye. To me. And then she shut the door and I was back in my jungle. And then we were guided to awaken. And I came too. And so it was, yeah. my gosh. Even now I have. Chills thinking about the experience. And I know that I've only just touched the surface of what these kinds of experiences can entail. I plan on doing. A whole lot more breathwork experiences. I've done quite a few of these journeys. At one point, one. Of the most. Powerful alongside these awake and. Breathwork journeys was. Last year. Last February, Kal I did actually a psychedelic mushroom assisted breathwork journey and it was. One of the most beautiful things we've. Ever done together as a couple. We both had this massive. Emotional. Release, I mean, laying side by side and then we had gone to dinner. Afterwards. And we shared what we had journaled about and we talked it out and we just felt so much love and. Gratitude for each other. So I'm telling you, if you feel like you could really use some sort of emotional. Release or. Work through. Grief, you haven't been able to process. Or speak to a deceased. Loved one that's been gone some time, or maybe not a lot of time that you really feel like you could communicate with. If any of. Those feel real. I want you to seek out this kind of breathwork experience. I mean, it's really powerful stuff. And as they say. You are quote unquote. Getting high off your own supply. So there's nothing. External about this experience. You're not relying on any sort of substance, but you're actually using the power of your own oxygen and. CO2 ratios to induce these. Non ordinary states of consciousness having out-of-body. Experiences speaking to deceased loved ones. I mean, that is crazy that we have the ability to do that. On our own just by. Getting high off our own supply. So with that whole. Story now being told. I hope that you found a nugget of. Inspiration in here or. That you are curious to now go and look up. EFT Technique tapping to learn a little bit about that and how it might be able to help you through anxiety, depression, PTSD, whatever you might struggle. With. Or maybe you're ready to go look up a Breathwork facilitation event. Whatever it is, let me know. I would really love to hear from you. You can follow me on my Instagram. At It's All Magic Podcast or even. My personal. Instagram where. I post a lot of wellness and spirituality tips all the time. You can follow. Me there at. Devon underscore Rochelle, underscore. So I hope to see you there. And I'm really excited. I do also hope to have Helle and Lukis or at least one of them on the. Podcast soon, and they can share. The full depth of. This work because, again, I just scratched the surface and I. Want to make sure that I really do. Justice to this transformational technique. please share this with a friend or family member who might enjoy hearing. About these techniques. Or who is struggling. With their mental health right now. That could really use. A little bit of breathwork or. Tapping themselves. And with that. I already cannot wait to see you again next week. I love you. I you. I appreciate you. Okay, my friends. Bye for now.