Dr. Cindy Dupree - Embracing Healing and Growth Through Yoga, Reiki, and Lunar Cycles
May 22, 2024
Alimond Studio
Have you ever felt an invisible weight on your shoulders, one that no amount of physical strength could lift? Dr. Cindy Dupree, the heart and soul behind Zen Mountain Wellness, joins us to unpack the emotional luggage many of us carry. Her own journey, marked by a childhood sensitivity to energy and a father grappling with PTSD, led her down the unconventional path from systems engineering to the healing arts. We explore her transformative story and how connecting with nature and community through yoga and Reiki can foster profound personal growth.
Trauma can be a formidable opponent, cloaked in layers of suppressed emotions and memories. Yet, in the sanctity of a cacao ceremony, alongside the gentle guidance of yoga, Cindy and I discuss how these ancient practices help unlock the doors to healing. We share our personal experiences with self-healing and navigating the tumultuous seas of emotion, acknowledging the courage it takes to engage in 'shadow work'. It's not just about confronting what lies beneath the surface; it's about embracing it with compassion and presence.
Lastly, we look to the skies where the moon, our celestial timekeeper, influences not just the tides but our very essence. She shares insights into how aligning with the lunar cycles—embracing new beginnings with the new moon and releasing the old with the full moon—can be instrumental in personal healing and growth. Cindy also offers an invitation to upcoming events that connect us with these powerful lunar energies, providing tools for those seeking a deeper understanding of themselves and the natural world. Join us as we delve into these transformative practices and consider integrating them into your own journey toward wellness.
Have you ever felt an invisible weight on your shoulders, one that no amount of physical strength could lift? Dr. Cindy Dupree, the heart and soul behind Zen Mountain Wellness, joins us to unpack the emotional luggage many of us carry. Her own journey, marked by a childhood sensitivity to energy and a father grappling with PTSD, led her down the unconventional path from systems engineering to the healing arts. We explore her transformative story and how connecting with nature and community through yoga and Reiki can foster profound personal growth.
Trauma can be a formidable opponent, cloaked in layers of suppressed emotions and memories. Yet, in the sanctity of a cacao ceremony, alongside the gentle guidance of yoga, Cindy and I discuss how these ancient practices help unlock the doors to healing. We share our personal experiences with self-healing and navigating the tumultuous seas of emotion, acknowledging the courage it takes to engage in 'shadow work'. It's not just about confronting what lies beneath the surface; it's about embracing it with compassion and presence.
Lastly, we look to the skies where the moon, our celestial timekeeper, influences not just the tides but our very essence. She shares insights into how aligning with the lunar cycles—embracing new beginnings with the new moon and releasing the old with the full moon—can be instrumental in personal healing and growth. Cindy also offers an invitation to upcoming events that connect us with these powerful lunar energies, providing tools for those seeking a deeper understanding of themselves and the natural world. Join us as we delve into these transformative practices and consider integrating them into your own journey toward wellness.
Speaker 1:
My name is Cindy Dupree and my business is Zen Mountain Wellness. That's my current business as of about a year ago. I did many things before that. What I offer my clients is I try to find ways to help them to connect more with themselves, listen deeper to themselves and also to connect with others. So I do a lot of community programs and nature I mean. I am really a big environmental person. I feel different when I'm outdoors and I try to share that by teaching yoga and doing energy work outdoors when I can. So when weather's conducive, we're outside, we're hearing the birds, we're watching the trees, and it's beautiful.
Speaker 2:
I love that. Now I know you said you did many other things before. Do you want to talk to me a little bit about what those things were and how your journey led you into the wellness yoga field?
Speaker 1:
Oh yeah, let's see when do we start, because I mean there's so much, there's so much to go there, yeah.
Speaker 2:
Key points Okay.
Speaker 1:
There's so much to go there. Key points, okay. Well, starting early on, I was always very in tune with energy and now I understand that people that are very in tune to energy can feel energy, are called clairsentient. Never would have called myself that before, but there's a term for that. I didn't realize that that was anything different than anyone else had.
Speaker 1:
But when I grew up I was in an environment where my dad had PTSD. He had been in the military, in the Air Force, and he was a gunner in the Korean War. So as a young man coming from a Southern Baptist background, that was a very traumatic experience for him. They didn't know what PTSD was back then. It was kind of like this is something energetic, it's frou-frou, we don't have a label for it, so therefore it doesn't exist. So he was classified as manic depressive and put on medication. So as a child I was growing up in an environment where both my parents really they were doing the best they could, but they had wounds from childhood and so I could see that in their interactions that you know, they were often triggered and those triggers would come up, you know, based on different things. So I became very energetically aware and kind of conscious of the environment, maybe for survival purposes, to know at such a young age right to make sure you're not triggering someone.
Speaker 1:
That's easily triggered. But I could sense the energy in the room like I could walk in, I could know what's going on, and so I kind of carried that with me as a mediator, as a person that was very attuned to energy as I went through high school and college, what I studied, what I studied and what I became as a systems engineer also. You know, it seems like it's very logical, but I think part of what separated me in that systems engineering environment, which was very heavily male, dominated at the time Sometimes I was the only woman in the room, dominated at the time, sometimes I was the only woman in the room and I think what separated me was my ability to communicate with people and understand them from an experiential perspective. Yeah, so to go a little deeper when I could see that there were issues, that there were problems, to try to use relationship building as a way to understand, and so that became very important in my career as a systems engineer, as a consultant, as a teacher, as a trainer, and I really enjoyed that part of my career building teams, helping people to get to know each other on deeper levels.
Speaker 1:
That's a big part of agile engineering and that's one of the departments that I created. Okay, but I still use that. So I mean, I really enjoyed that, I learned from that, but I still use that in my practice, because when you meet someone, you know there's so much more, there's so much deeper, so many more levels underneath that exterior and you can't really understand who that person is until you understand their experiences.
Speaker 1:
Absolutely no that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and so that led you later on into the field of.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so I mean, as I was an engineer, you know very much using my logical mind. It's kind of like you know, people are very cerebral in that environment, so they're walking around and this is all there is right, and I didn't feel like that was all there was.
Speaker 1:
I could you know, as I said, people would say when you walk into the room, things shift, you know, and it was like I can feel that there's this energetic part component that needs to be explored. So I did a year of Institute for Integrative Nutrition in New York. I did Reiki training. I did my yoga teacher training in Costa Rica, which is a whole other thing. Wow, I've been going to Costa Rica for 25, 30 years and I really feel that's my second home. Oh, my goodness. So I have my tribe there. I love that, and part of what I'm doing now that I'm retired is finding out like can I build a tribe here? You know, is Loudon a place you could build a tribe? You know, are people hungry for this? Are they? Are they open to this kind of thing? Absolutely.
Speaker 2:
I think you can Now for your business. Do you have a particular location?
Speaker 1:
If so, how many employees do you have? Is it just you? And what is?
Speaker 2:
the ambience like in your studio.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, like I said, it's I'm retired. So I'm very careful, since I've only been retired for about a year, to really balance things that I love and make sure I have enough time to be retired.
Speaker 2:
Yes.
Speaker 1:
Right, so my business is a small business. Zen Mountain Wellness is out of my home, so I have a beautiful area like patio where I like to do massage and so if it's nice, we'll do massage outdoors, if not, we do it indoors. I have a yoga studio that's outside and it's small.
Speaker 1:
It fits maybe five, six people at a time. But what I try to do is bring community together there and we practice yoga together from well, right now this month it's 8, 30 to 9, 30 every morning, and then, um, I do massages as people need them or they schedule them. Um, I do have a story about what one thing that happened over the last couple weeks. Yes, please share with us what happened. What's the story? I have this really dear friend of mine who has he's a carpenter and a stone builder and he's helped me out in a lot of ways at my house. In fact, he built some of the yoga shala and things like that.
Speaker 1:
He unfortunately experienced a tragedy last year and his there was some kind of issue with the air conditioner caught fire and he lost his home. He lost his wife and he you know, um, I won't go into details but as part of trying to rescue her, he has physical scars on his body, but those are healing. It's been a year those have healed. The emotional scars Not so much. And so sorry, yeah, I mean, and it's, it's a. I mean you can't imagine right, like I've. I've been there, I've had family members pass, but never in that way. So I mean, he experienced a lot of trauma and one of the things that I do is I work with people who have had trauma like PTSD.
Speaker 1:
Um, going back to my dad, you know there's things that I wish I knew then, that I know now, and so I could tell that he was still struggling, even though he had happy face on. You could see, he just, you know, he was like somewhere else. His eyes, would you know, drift off to the side when you're talking to him, like he just wasn't able to focus. And I asked him if he was open to try some therapy and he had not ever had a massage before, so he was kind of hesitant. It took him a couple of weeks and he was like I got to do something, because that's all I see in my head, it's all I see. I can't sleep at night. And, um, you know he, he said I still hear the fire in my ears. I hear it and like I wasn't sure you know, with every person they're different, right, how this was going to play out. So I offered him, you know, the therapy. He came for one visit last week and he came back yesterday and he was like you know, you know, I can't tell you how much that helped. He was like I haven't slept that well in 15 years and I don't. You know, I don't know what you did, but it just helped.
Speaker 1:
And what you do is you're taking someone from this trauma state where they're activated and adrenaline and cortisol is flowing, and you try to help find ways of there. There's this thing called emotional freedom technique. It's tapping and getting in touch with the body to help the body know that it's no longer in that trauma state. So it is an energetic shift that happens. Everybody is different. Things work differently for different people.
Speaker 1:
But I asked him are you still hearing the sounds? And he was like no, like I didn't even notice it, but no, and I think it's kind of like when you have a splinter yeah, when you have something, you know, you sit on a thumbnail or whatever, a thumbtack, you feel something, you feel something and you feel it and it's all you can focus on until it's removed. Yes, right, and then, once it's removed, you don't think about it anymore. So I think it's kind of like that Energetically. Sometimes trauma can cause these blockages in the system and what I like to do is try to help people find ways of removing those blockages so that they can live better, happier, healthier, to just feel joy again lives. Wow, so that was really know to me. To have someone that was dear to me like open up and allow me to try to help them in that way and then have that kind of feedback was really cool.
Speaker 2:
I'm sure and I bet you feel so like fulfilled and so great that you're able to help somebody be more in tune with themselves and also let go of some trauma that's maybe deep down locked in there. So I think that's amazing what you're doing, and especially since you're retired this is like your passion. Like I love that. I'm glad that you have that, that space and that that healing power to help others in that way.
Speaker 1:
Well, I've had to do a lot of healing on myself. So I mean, it's kind of self-discovery and and there's so many different modalities of healing and in Costa Rica it's so, you know, it's so rich and and just you know, full of people that have all kinds of different talents and skills and I've depended on other people to kind of help me get through those hurdles. And now it's like now I feel like it's time to kind of pay some of that back. Like I figured out ways to deal with long-term Lyme disease, I figured out ways of dealing with autoimmune issues, you know, throughout my life through, through chronic stress, but there are a lot of people that are still dealing with that and you know that's something that if I can help, I will, you know. No, I love that.
Speaker 2:
Um, and now tell me a little bit about the cacao experience here. Can you tell me like the official name of it and what it?
Speaker 1:
does. Yeah, well, again, in Costa Rica everybody is familiar with cacao because cacao is grown there on plants the abromine trees I think they're called and basically cacao is the main ingredient in chocolate. So everybody knows cacao, Probably everybody's had cacao. But when you get it in chocolate it's treated at very high temperatures and often chemically treated, and it takes out a lot of the nutrients and a lot of the properties of the plant. So when it's made in a sacred, ceremonial way, it's not heated to those extremes, it's not chemically processed, it's a natural part of the plant and so, you know, it has some medicinal properties, it's a vasodilator, it helps to, you know, create the blood flow, and so the plant they call it a plant medicine there. You know, by drinking this pure cacao it's kind of like a hot chocolate without the sugar. Yeah, it's bitter.
Speaker 1:
It's not that tasty, but you just drink a little bit of it and the thought is that you know that opening up of the pathways helps to open the heart. So typically what I would do is serve a little bit of cacao before we do heart opening yoga asanas. Cow before we do heart opening yoga asanas. And then you have kind of that extra energetic boost of, and support from, a plant medicine that's not a pharmaceutical, it doesn't have side effects. I mean there's certain people, if you're, if you're pregnant or if you're, you know, breastfeeding.
Speaker 1:
You probably don't want to do those things, but it's actually really good at lowering blood pressure. It has all kinds of I mean, if you can Google's actually really good at lowering blood pressure. It has all kinds of I mean, if you can google it. I mean it just has all kinds of good health benefits. Um, so we do that and then we have a little bit of yoga practice where you're moving the body and that helps kind of that plant medicine to go to different places. And part of it is just getting mindful and having that moment to look inside and kind of be okay with looking deeper to say how am I feeling today, like, do I have a blockage, or am I feeling great, you know? And is there something I need to work on? Is there something emotionally that I've been suppressing for a while that needs to be dealt with? So some of those things kind of arise in the process.
Speaker 2:
No, it sounds like you have to be very like present and feel like exactly what you're feeling, or what you don't want to admit to yourself. Maybe that you're feeling.
Speaker 1:
Right, I mean we all have it. Yeah, no, absolutely yeah. People call it shadow work. It's kind of like when you have things that you're trying to suppress or not look at maybe trauma or things that have happened to you I mean my family we've had a lot of, unfortunately. My family members have experienced a lot of trauma and when you try to suppress it or not look at it, it's not like you're not expending energy to keep that down. So sometimes, when you can look at it, allow it to flow and go. You know you're not always having the shield around that part of you.
Speaker 2:
And I don't know, if that makes sense. No, it doesn't. Like you have like this wall and you're trying to just basically be in tune with yourself and break it down little by little, not in one tumble, but yeah.
Speaker 1:
I think of sometimes I think of, you know, starship Enterprise that was probably way before your time, but you know they're like, yeah, the shields come up and it's taking a lot of energy from the core. You know power system to keep those shields up, to keep them protected. But once that power goes down, and then you know, and then eventually you know it wears the power out and you can't work these other parts. I mean, we are, as a systems engineer, I think we are a system of systems. We've got the circulatory system, the digestive system, we've got a lot of systems. And if you're powering this, you know your adrenal system is going constantly because you're in a state of fight or flight, yes, or if you're triggered easily and you're constantly getting these boosts of adrenaline and cortisol that are keeping you, you know your shields up of adrenaline and cortisol that are keeping you, you know your shields up.
Speaker 2:
it feels totally different when you can finally allow that to just relax yeah, and now, when you're doing these sessions, do you do any music, or is it silence, like I'm curious about?
Speaker 1:
that, yeah, I love music. Music has vibrations. It has, you know, this power to shift. You know so, this power to shift, you know so I love to do music. I mean, everybody has their own way of doing things. Yes, absolutely. But when I'm doing mindfulness meditation, I usually even start a yoga class with just a minute or two just of mindfulness meditation. Yeah, I don't know if you know, but yoga means union, did not know that?
Speaker 1:
Mind, body, soul or however you want to think of the soul, it's the energy that powers you, right? And so by taking that mindful moment, you are having time to kind of connect the mind and the body, and that's something that we don't often, you know, take time to do. The breath, the mind, the body First thing we do when we enter the world, breathe. Last thing we do when we enter the world breathe. Last thing we do when we exit the world breathe. But then while we're here, we kind of forget sometimes to breathe and how important the breath is to all the systems in the body. So that mindful moment really focuses on breath, on kind of coming into yourself and just taking that curious observer kind of stance to look at what's going on.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely. And now tell me about these books that you've written. What started you on this journey of writing a book Like? Was that something you always had in the back of your mind, like you know what I'm going to write a book and you just went for it. How did?
Speaker 1:
that Well, while I was working I mean, I had my children, I was getting my education, my master's degree, and while I was working I always had such interest I'm a learner, you know and such interest in many things and I thought, you know, someone needs to write a book about how you can help children to address their emotions. It's something I never had. It's it's something that I wasn't really aware of when I was a kid, that I could have benefited from, so I kind of had it in the back of my mind. I went into my doctoral program when my daughter graduated because I had this feeling of like, oh my gosh, I'm going to have this hole in my life because there's no kids in the house anymore. So I started a doctoral program and thought I'll be in school with them. And then they graduated and I was still in school because I was still working full time. And so the doctoral degree was writing a very large book, like um, that was on collective. My dissertation was on collective mindfulness, mindfulness in the workplace. Yeah, um and um.
Speaker 1:
So, as I was writing that book, that was all, for you know the purpose of you know getting something cerebral out. It had to fit certain qualities and criteria to be passed, to be published. So that was a lot of work and then, after I finished and retired, it's like now I can play. So what do I really feel like I want to write about? And my brother had passed away a few months earlier. I went to Costa Rica and I just had passed away a few months earlier.
Speaker 1:
I went to Costa Rica and I just had time. I had time to process. You know how he passed, which wasn't you know, I mean, it wasn't an easy thing, and I was just in my emotions and I was thinking you know, this is the time to write that book on. You know, for kids, and I called it the emotion explorers, the journey within, and it's to help children know that it's okay sometimes to feel sad, to feel angry, to feel anxiety, like my. I have friends that you know they had anxiety. I have family members that have had anxiety. I had anxiety as a child, but I but right.
Speaker 1:
I didn't know. You know how I didn't have the tools to to be able to deal with that anxiety in the most effective way, like I had to learn those tools. I had to. I had to force myself out of my comfort zone. I had to do a lot of things that made me very worried and stayed up at night, and you know it was like pushing myself to do these things, even though I was very nervous and anxiety, you know, filled with anxiety and dread and fear, and but you know how those things that you learn, your experiences, what they teach you, you know, maybe you couldn't help someone else that's in that same situation.
Speaker 1:
Um, sometimes people think if they feel a feeling that's not comfortable, they need to take pharmaceuticals. You know, okay, um, I believe pharmaceuticals are really good and useful in certain cases. But I have again a family member who, you know just, um, had anxiety and depression and they were on nine different medications and it. They were so just whacked out on medications up and down, and they were so just whacked out on medications up and down and gradually they were able to wean themselves off, have the tools to deal with it. Know that it's okay to feel a feeling, it's all right to feel a feeling sometimes, even though it doesn't feel good. You know there are ways of dealing with it and you know they're on two medications now, but they're able to do things they couldn't before, like driving the car, you know, without having a panic attack.
Speaker 2:
Or not sleeping during the day all this much, or not being able to sleep at night.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah. So I think there are. You know, there's good tools that we learn as we go through life and we deal with our challenges. And you know, I just feel like I'm very grateful that right now I'm at a point where I can share those. You know, I love that Right now I'm at a point where I can share those.
Speaker 2:
I love that. Where can people find these books? Is that available on Amazon?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it's on Amazon. It's Emotion Explorers A Journey Within. It's written for children and parents to kind of be able to talk about emotions. So, in addition to scenarios and examples of kids that are, you know, dealing with and the characters actually, you know, are modeled after some people that I know in my family but in addition to some of the tools and being able to think about it and talk about it in different ways, there's also visualization exercises and affirmations to help reprogram, like I'm.
Speaker 1:
My degree was a lot about neuroscience and behavior change, so it's about how you reprogram yourself. Like sometimes our anxiety is coming from the thoughts that we're thinking, yes, and if you can, you know, look at yourself and understand where did that come from? Who put that there? Like, typically it's us, we put it there right, like my feeling that maybe I'm not lovable, or that feeling like maybe I'm not good enough, it. You know, maybe there was experiences in your life where that's the assumptions and you know that you made, but it's it's looking that and recognizing that you can shift and change that.
Speaker 2:
You know you have the power to to shift and change your own belief structures yeah, the power is in your control, not out, because I think a lot of usually, when, um, I've had like little episodes like that, I feel like I'm out of control. But now I feel like I'm in a place where I'm like, okay, girl, you can control this, like, yeah, like it's.
Speaker 2:
It feels so good knowing that it's not something that is just stuck yeah, that makes sense, like you can control it and you can dig your way out of the scary place, like you have that power and you just have to. Like it's so much practice. You have to keep telling yourself that you can do it and that you are capable, because sometimes you know you beat yourself down. You don't let your own self like get out of that hole that you dug yourself into. So I love that you have a book that's helping kids realize like, hey, you do have the power to control this and you know what.
Speaker 1:
It's okay if you feel that, but we just got to make sure you find a way when you're ready. When you're ready, cause sometimes people aren't ready. I mean when you lose someone, when you lose a family member, especially as a child. My mom, my mother, lost her mother at two years old oh man, so talk about trauma. And then her father was an alcoholic, so she was brought up by people that didn't really want her and those things she carried with her all her life. So of course she has triggers. She did the best she could with the tools she had. She was an amazing, wonderful mother.
Speaker 1:
I always knew I was loved, but she had a lot of trauma in her life that she didn't have tools to deal with. Like, how do you? That's unthinkable, you know, and so many children are in these positions where they need help to understand that. You know it's okay to feel grief, it's okay to feel sadness and, yeah, maybe there's times when anxiety serves us. It serves a purpose, right. But chronic anxiety and chronic grief and depression, you know those are things that we have the power to shift and we have the power to help each other shift.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely. I know and you're absolutely right about that. I remember we had a guest here. His name was John Paul and he also helped the veterans with PTSD and his family also went through some trauma and he said that PTSD like you had mentioned earlier that PTSD was not even a medical term yet until the eighties. So imagine, like all the people back then who were just like what is wrong with me, like what's going on with me.
Speaker 2:
And they just had to like live their lives. Lives like either, just like fight through it and work super hard and not even know that they have this, yeah, trauma going on. It just it's crazy to me. But I'm just so happy when we have our guests come in here that have realized, like you know, they come from maybe broken homes or some trauma themselves, but they're able to get past that and help others with the knowledge that they've received because they know that there's other people who don't have those tools Right. So I think that's amazing what you're doing and that you're using your retirement days to help. I love that. No, I think that's that's amazing.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I really feel like you know, we all have um talents and strengths and and I have a sense of purpose where I've always tried, no matter what job I was doing, to align to that sense of purpose. You know, how do you serve, how do I serve people, how do I, you know, create relationships, how do I create connections? How do I remove blockages? So, whether you're talking about agile engineering, where every day, you get together and you say, okay, team, team, like what's holding us back, what's blocking our progress and are we still heading in the same direction, I mean, I'm kind of still doing the same thing as a, you know, as a coach and a healer. It's like, okay, let's look at this. Do we have blockages?
Speaker 2:
You're like a human engineer, you're like helping, like the systems, like we're the blockages.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and how do we help to? So it's like just facilitating, you know, helping to remove those so that the body can do what it's supposed to do and the person can feel the way they're supposed to feel, absolutely.
Speaker 2:
And now, is there anything that you would like to share with us that I have not touched on, or maybe I'm missing, like, do you have any upcoming books, any upcoming events that maybe you'd want to share?
Speaker 1:
Um, I have started just recently, uh, doing these cacao ceremonies. So these are new. I don't know how it's going to go in this area. It's an experiment, right? I always feel like you know you learn, right. If it works, great. If it doesn't, you learn Um. So, yeah, that's, that's the new thing the yoga, the massage that I do from my home, and then also I'm trying to facilitate building community through these kick-ass ceremonies with yoga.
Speaker 1:
So that's the new part, and I typically try to schedule those around a new moon, because new moons are for setting intentions and opening up space for new things to happen, moving into, um, new goals or um, you know, setting, setting new goals for yourself. And then the full moon is kind of the completion portion of it. So it's like what don't you need, like what are we ready to close out, what are we ready to move away from? So, um, and I do as a, as a healer, I am aligned to some of the Native American traditions and you know the moon was very important to Native Americans and they were very in tune with the cycles. I think that you know, in our day and age, in our society, we forget about how the moon shifts energy and we forget about how we are part of this universal you know energetic experience. So that's kind of what I'm playing with right now.
Speaker 2:
That's amazing. And when do those start, or how can people sign up, or how are you taking your clients?
Speaker 1:
So in June I will identify when the new moon happens and then I will promote it. I'm I've been promoting things on all events, so there's a platform called all events. I also will put it on the link in my website. My website is then mwcom. Um, so I would put the link to that in the in the website and my contact information is in my website. So if anyone wants to reach out to me um to find out if my services are right for them because, again, different things resonate with different people um to find out if there's something that I might be able to help them with, uh, they're welcome to contact me Awesome.
Speaker 2:
And now for my final question for you is if you could leave our listeners with one uh, they're welcome to contact me Awesome. And now for my final question for you is if you could leave our listeners with one message. It can be in regards to, maybe, a new moon personal life retirement? Anything at all, maybe something that's in your heart? What would you like to share with our audience? Oh, wow, um.
Speaker 1:
I guess uh, I think, going back to the emotion explorers, like I think that's a really important thing is to be able to take a few minutes at least each day to kind of explore how you're doing and what it is that you want to set your intentions towards. The energetic alignment. With those intentions you're probably going to be able to have a much better day and you're probably going to be able to move yourself and shift yourself a little further. But I mean, this whole thing about mindfulness is really just taking a few minutes to ask yourself, take time for yourself, what is it that I need and how can I move to that next level or that next goal? And so I think you know mindfulness is very popular now.
Speaker 1:
It wasn't when I started to write about it, like 10 years ago. We didn't hear mindfulness mentioned. People didn't know what it was. But now it tends to be very you know common word that we hear thrown around a lot, yes, and it's just being able to take a few minutes for yourself, basically to. You know common word that we hear thrown around a lot, yes, and it's just being able to take a few minutes for yourself, basically to, um, you know, to make sure that um you're getting out of life what you want. You know you're aligning to your purpose.
Speaker 2:
Yes, no, that's a great message. Thank you so much for being on the podcast and for sharing your wisdom and all your tips with us.
