RHOSLC: FINALE : Stirring the Pot in Salt Lake City, Drama Reveals, Celebrity Reality Parenthood & Controversial Returns!

Get ready for a wild, whirlwind tour of Salt Lake City - through the lens of the Real Housewives franchise! In this tantalizing episode, we’ll be stirring the pot, dishing about my clash with a disruptive viewer, and sharing our undying enthusiasm for future episodes. Buckle up as we dissect the dramatic absence of Lisa and Mary Grace, and show our appreciation to you, our loyal listeners!

As we push further into our no-holds-barred conversation, we’ll dissect the intricate dynamics among the cast. We’ll spill the tea on the accusations against Meredith and the involvement of newcomer Monica, all while sharing our theories on Monica's potential link to the enigmatic Instagram account that’s been bombarding the group. We're bracing ourselves for a dramatic showdown during an upcoming boat trip - but what will be Meredith's breaking point?

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Hello everyone, happy Wednesday. Hi, I'm Muir. I see everybody you guys. Thank you, the Jews, I hope you're still here. Are you coming back? Yeah, it's Wednesday and instead of doing Potemac like I would usually do, we're foregoing Potemac from now on, at least until they get it together. I didn't even watch it this week. So we're going to do a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City now on Wednesdays from now on until the time being, and we are also going to do Beverly Hills on Friday, just like what you really do, but that way I don't have to try to squeeze both of them in on Friday. Plus, I feel like this is a better fit for Wednesdays than Potemac was, so I guess we should wait.

Speaker 1: 0:42

I'll just give you guys a couple more minutes, because I did just send the link out and in the meantime I do want to apologize. I'm going to say about it, and I really should have just did that on the other day. I should have just blocked that one person. I didn't make a subscriber's only chat, but that's not going to stop people from coming in, but I will block that person. I don't have moderators yet. I mean, erin is a mob, but she's not like bound to me. Hey, shay, so I feel bad that I engaged in that and yeah, I should just block that because you know, as much as I say, it doesn't bother me. And now I didn't go to see who, I didn't check to see who it was, so I was going to talk it up to just. You know, I'm sorry, a slight crazy person, but I'll block the next time and we'll engage. So this is who's starting.

Speaker 1: 1:25

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Speaker 1: 2:00

Not with myself. I'm not talking to myself, as I always say. I'm talking to the live chat that's going on and I'll do my best to keep the comments. I'll keep, you know. Say them out loud so you know who I'm responding to and what I'm responding to. And also I should just put this in the beginning of the podcast part, but also if you get to this part, there is chapters and timestamps. So just look at your phone or device before you start listening and because usually these can these conversations go on for like hour, hour and a half sometimes and I'll go off track or we'll start talking about other stuff, but the chapters actually tell you what, what I'm talking about, so like you can skip through it and all that.

Speaker 1: 2:41

What is the most responsibility? I'm not really sure. I think they just like moderate the chat, make sure that people aren't arguing, making sure those people that were coming in the other day don't come in. If they do, they can block them like they had the. They have the access to do what I do, Put up the comments. Basically what I would do with the chat that person would do, you know, and basically, like when you have a mod like I mean I could have a bunch of them like because you know I only do it three times a week, but if you're interested, let me know, I just have to send you an email. I mean usually because I don't have a lot of people in my chat, I can take care of whatever, and I usually don't have issues like that.

Speaker 1: 3:16

But I'm kind of shocked at myself that I engaged like I did. Is there any home? Let's not waste any more time on that one. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I know I could have been worse. I mean it could have been worse. It's stupid. I mean I was kind of like I was shocked at something. This is the thing bothers me. Okay, it's not what the person was saying, it's that they realize I'm alive. I'm alive podcast, right, that I record this live, so, and there's also I might have a panel or I have people watching. Right now I take people watching. I don't know who it is. It's not just you guys that are watching like, there's other people that are watching this.

Speaker 1: 3:57

So not only are you coming up there, you have to have a vested interest in me. Somehow you don't like me or you love me or something like that. Because you really went through like that. You could really really screwed me up, because now I'm not uploading it onto podcast side. I have to edit that out of just haven't done yet it's just a whole thing and it messes up my entire podcast and it's like you really really like people, really hate the walls and do stuff like that, and I know that I mean you're educated enough to make an account where you have me. So, so, blonde, that's nothing. And then you super, super block yourself. What are you afraid of, I mean? But anyway, so, like that's what bothers me, like now you screwed my whole thing up and it's like why would you take time to? Like you must not really like me, like you spent a lot of time telling me about myself, which is like you kept repeating yourself. But anyway, on to Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We will, like I said, not wasting any more time for that.

Speaker 1: 4:47

I'm glad everybody's here, shea, I'm so glad everybody made it. You guys see the call it, the call in Lincoln case. Anybody wants to call him? I haven't seen Lisa and money grace. Oh my God, I was in. I saw you guys were on Zach's chat. I forget that you guys are not only supportive of me, like it's active, but probably Zach first, probably where we all met.

Speaker 1: 5:07

But I was so excited. I went into Zach's chat and I was like, oh my God, I'm like those, like my chat. I was like so excited. But anyway, okay, so, okay, well, or in Bermuda, which is awesome, not like this entire time. I am like so enjoying watching all these ladies get along and I am extremely excited to see Lisa and Monica getting along and I know it's crazy to say that because, like, of course it's like, but their fight was so petty and stupid anyway, right. But like I do see how Monica tries to like I don't understand what will in the world, like what is wrong with her? Like why are your people so angry with her? Like why aren't they talking to her? I keep seeing her trying to get along with everybody. Okay.

Speaker 1: 5:49

So now it's her birthday and everybody is doing all like the most for her and it's great, like so you have Heather's blowing up balloons and she's having a birthday breakfast for like a surprise birthday breakfast with like decorations and everything. And you know, when he brings a birthday present to her and it's like really cute t shirt that says salty as fuck, and I'm like that is so frigging perfect. I think I need that t shirt. Like honestly, like I think that should be a merch product. But you got Heather's on a tiara, or somebody had a tear on, and it's like it was so nice, it was like a really nice to see and I yeah, like I mean you know the fact that like they gave Jen Shaw so much more than this like reason they're giving Monica.

Speaker 1: 6:35

Jen Shaw was a horrible person and this is before she was, even like when she said she was guilty, like she just treated everybody like crap. So you give Jen Shaw so much race, but like you have for Monica where she's telling you I'm sorry, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to do better and you know it's just, I'll get to it, though there are some things that father be in the middle of the show. But you know I'm not going to make this a full recap, I'm just. I'm just think like the parts of Monica were like she's been the same person this entire time. She has not been fake, she has not been anybody else. Think about it. I don't think anybody else, guys, right? So I don't see what crime she's committing. I really don't.

Speaker 1: 7:16

I love the Angie. I like I love her and she's friendship on the show so far, like giving her a big hug and just like I don't know birthday balloons and it was just good. I was fun, meredith, but that would Monica. I forgot that we had the whole thing about Meredith in the bathtub. I said I was going to. I said I was not gonna play with my hair. I'm gonna sit on my hands. I'm not gonna do my nose but my hands. I'm gonna try to talk without my hands and see if it works.

Speaker 1: 7:50

Anyway, but Heather thinking Whitney apologized for telling her to shut the plug on there, okay. So either me. Whitney apologized to her, oh, right then. And there, okay, when Heather, when Whitney walks in and Heather makes Whitney apologize for her for telling her to shut the fuck up the night before, when really Heather should have shut the fuck up night before. Like I was proud of Whitney when she told her to shut the fuck up. That's what I'm saying. Like I wrote I didn't know what I was talking about here, but it's like you, jen Shaw gave you a black eye. Did she have to apologize to you for giving you a black eye? You know it making you look stupid. Hello, stupid black eye gay. Making us not like you anymore. This Jen Shaw have to apologize for that or anything else that Jen Shaw did. You know I keep comparing everything to Jen Shaw, but it's like very hypocritical of these people to all of a sudden now care about somebody committing a little bit of like a fraud, like not paying a bill or something and making up a fake account when Jen Shaw was a whole fraud, like Now we and then to find out, meredith has a fake one too.

Speaker 1: 8:49

Anyhow, on to my next birthday, which I am so happy for, I'm a little confused. I know that they said they were having a Romanian. That I might have heard it wrong. Did they say they're going to Romanian breakfast is Romanian, she is Portuguese, right is Romanian. I don't know. Did I hear wrong with the breakfast? Looked really good and I wouldn't know what it is because I thought they said many. But whatever it was, I need it. So tell me if I heard it wrong, but I gotta find out what that stuff was. But it was like it was. I don't know if this is Romanian, but it was cool.

Speaker 1: 9:21

She was so excited to see that they thought about her, like when she walked in and they said happy, big surprise, happy birthday. It's like she's such a good person, like even her confessionals. She's so excited that these women are thinking about her and doing this. For like I'll do the same, I'd be the same way, because like I'm kind of just like Monica, like I, she reminds me of somebody from Jersey. You guys see, the other day what happens to me, like I kind of that Teresa temper where I shouldn't react in the moment and I do and I'm like, and that's the things like when I, and it's just like, just it's a defense mechanism for me, I guess. And I think Monica is the same way. She's like I gotta learn to not react, blah, blah, blah. And they told her if they wanted to be queen for the day. So it's like you know she says in her confessionals that you know she's never had anybody asked her what she would do if she'd be queen for the day. Like I don't know, it was just really nice and she was really happy to have, like I said, all in the rally around her.

Speaker 1: 10:17

And she's going to go see her family at this point. Now she's going to go see her family in Bermuda. Okay, now, this is definitely her mom side of the family. Also the grandmother side of the family, the grandmother that she's close to correct, the little old lady that we saw in the very beginning, right, and this is her family. Is her family. Okay, so the mother, what we know that she's going to go visit them and we know at some point the mother she thinks the mother calls the family and tells them not to meet up with her. Does anybody know what the hell happened there? Like I, you know, I'm like jumping ahead and all, but I don't know where we, how we got from like the beginning of her going to visit them until that scene at the bus where she's like freaking out and they don't tell her why they cancel on her, but she assumes it has something to do with her mother. I don't know. I was like I was and she said they weren't calling her. But I don't know. I don't have the grandmother.

Speaker 1: 11:13

At this point I would have to call my grandmother and be like, can you call the family and find out what is going on? What did your daughter do something? Because I wouldn't know why the mother, the mother, is getting away with this. Why is the grandmother not like representing the mother? Like we haven't even seen, not Bobo, think about, we haven't seen Bobo. But what are they called? Whatever they call it grandma, great, grandmother? Well, it's the kids. Great, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1: 11:36

Her grandmother, but you, we also find out to like she's talking about how you know, she doesn't start a family long time and they start questioning her better mom and she tells us that she literally has a great grandmother. She tells us that she literally has been in therapy with her mom and her mom has not shown up. The therapy. And I told you guys this, remember, I said that this lady wants to be a mom, so that has to tell her go away, go get therapy or do whatever your therapy. And she literally has not even shown up.

Speaker 1: 12:03

I told you, and I would not be surprised if KD doesn't reach out to Bobo, doesn't reach out to like Jen Shaw or something like this woman's out of her mind and thank God they're not giving her any airtime, because I also know that she's the one who was leaking all these things about Monica and trying to get her in trouble. Who does that? Now, I don't understand. If she did call the family I know it's just me If she did call the family and Bermuda, I would have to have the grandmother, like I wouldn't know where my grandmother is and I want my grandmother fall down there and like you're ignoring me. Okay, fine, but what did I do? That's making you not want to see my great granddaughter now like her grandmother you know what?

Speaker 1: 12:39

I'm saying like I just find it weird, like I hope we find out more at their union. I need more clarity on that phone call. Hi juice, thank you for being here. Yes, thank you for being here, because thank you all for being here. It was a rough day the other day. Okay, anyway. So they're getting ready to go, they're getting ready to go on the trip, or this, the bus to go jet skiing. Okay, this is where I'm just like why are we doing this now? Monica, which Monica cause?

Speaker 1: 13:12

Lisa and her, of all people, I'm liking their friendship. I believe it or not, I don't know what it is. I'm flip flopping, I guess, but I'm starting to like Lisa in this moment. I like Lisa in this whole God game show and I'm sorry not show full episode, but anyway. So she asked Lisa to go see her family with her, which I'm like. Okay, that's cool. I'm surprised, but I think that Lisa likes to be included and it was. I mean, your mom was all right.

Speaker 1: 13:39

Well, why would you invite her to? Why would you invite her to bring you to you? Even show up for therapy? You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, and what could you have possibly said? They make these night people you probably haven't seen in 30 years either. What could you possibly say would make you not want to see her? You know it did bother. You See, hey, michelle, it didn't bother me only because I liked Lisa's reaction and I do like the sentiment, like what, like Monica's, like. I want you to see this different side of me when you know and unfortunately we see what happened.

Speaker 1: 14:14

But I think that Monica really needed Lisa as an ally. Hate to say that Lisa doesn't as an ally because of what you know how, how, and she kind of sides with Monica, I mean with Lisa a lot. And we know that Meredith, I guess, allegedly now has this account, that she's the one that's been like the ending these crazy things about people and sending, like you know, like SCA reports, whatever they're called. I don't know, I don't know if it's in business, but I'm like I want her and Lisa have a friend. I'm saying this because I don't like Lisa any other time, but I don't like Lisa when she's being mean to my mom that that's what it is, you know and how stupid she was being about the thing with with Angie's marriage. But you know, we got bigger fish apart, like I said, I mean, if I think my face, nothing but anyway. But Lisa says she's going to go and she's cool, she's like she was really happy that she had asked her and you know she. Then Lisa, she's all, they're all excited about this thing. And then this is where it goes. Fucking left for me because I'm like.

Speaker 1: 15:19

So Monica then tells Lisa about the rumors about Angie. So we're on a fucking trip, ronnie, goddamn family trip and everybody's getting along, everybody's going to this. This could have waited until we got home, but no, monica brings up. Now. Monica tells Lisa how she's pretty sure that Meredith has been sending her DM about Angie's financials, this whatever you know bankruptcy things about Lisa. I mean I'm sorry about Sean and Angie's marriage or her being in the Greek mafia. She actually know, she said it to her on the phone about being Angie might be in the Greek mafia, which I don't know why Meredith is why Meredith would say that to Monica. I don't know, like I don't. She already knows that. Monica has repeated with you know about the why the husband thing, right, right, right, but anyway.

Speaker 1: 16:10

So she tells Lisa this and then she also tells her that you know she believes that Lisa, that Meredith did send her their CM. I wish they would tell us what the account name was. You guys know we'd definitely. I know we probably know by now, but I don't know what it's the name behind the account. But apparently it was the same one that was saying things about Mary's marriage, first season, and about Lisa's SCA I don't know SCC filing last year and now apparently stuff about Monica's Sorry, about Angie and Sean, and I just don't understand what Meredith's motive would be to do that Like I don't know. She already threatened it but I don't know what Meredith's motive is to take Angie down.

Speaker 1: 16:55

You know what I'm saying. Do we know? Like why would she? I kind of like Angie's face when Lisa was telling her listen. I wouldn't be surprised if you I mean honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. I need to look. Even if it's not that it could be, even if there isn't such thing as mob and mafia, there's the mob or mafia mentality. So even if they have their dismantled, the guys that run that, they still have that mentality where they're still like, so, like her dad's old school, so he could be part.

Speaker 1: 17:26

You know what I'm saying. But it's not like she didn't really deny it and it was cute too. It was cute. It was like I really really really appreciate Angie a lot, like I do like, and I do want her and Monica to be friends. So I don't know why she's telling Lisa this right now, because they're gonna went two ways with Lisa. Lisa could have said, okay, well, you know what, I was gonna go with her and I liked really like Monica and I was giving her a chance.

Speaker 1: 17:51

But here she is now telling and talking about somebody else again, talking about Angie's marriage again, and I'm like but it didn't, and thank God, you know, when she totally said that she even you know she said I believe that Meredith is the one who sent them to me, only because she called me and said, hey, did you get DMs about Angie? Well, I did go check her DMs and it's like but show yours then, meredith, I want Meredith to show her DMs. You know what I mean? Like, show the DMs, show us the DMs that you got. That you said that you that also, that that Monika got. No body else got them but Monica and you. That's weird and it is true. I don't mean, I don't think that I don't know, meredith.

Speaker 1: 18:37

I don't think, Meredith, I don't know why Meredith is being so messy, you know. Okay, so the comments made me wonder that would make Monica very calculating. Why, though? Because, like I don't know what her point in the tape. Why would she wanna take Angie down? Why would Monique wanna take Angie down? You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 18:59

I don't understand, like, what would be the motive for all this. You know, like I understand, maybe, like I don't even understand, what Meredith's motive would be to take down Angie. I don't understand anybody's motive to take Angie down at all, and I don't know what the motive would be to try to get Monique to do it. I don't know, like, who do we want, who would want to do this? Now, think about it. The only person who's ever always wanted to take this woman out is Jennifer Shaw, and she's not on the show anymore, but who knows who she has working for her, or do, like, I don't know. Like, maybe her Meredith have this one? I don't know. I wanna find out where, what the name of this account is I got to, you know, I haven't really looked around, but I just find it odd.

Speaker 1: 19:40

But again, monique is telling Lisa it could have went so much more. It could have went in a completely different way. And I don't know why Monica didn't say don't tell Angie about this yet. I don't know why she told you about it to begin with anyway, yeah, but why, though? Like? I mean like because, think about it Angie hasn't done anything to Monica, really, like I don't know. Like I feel like Monica is always trying to just be, you know, be forgiven and be friends and like not fight with anybody, but I do find it odd that she, she's bringing it up. It's weird because look what happened last time she brought things up, you know, like she turned on her, but then she said she doesn't tell Angie because, okay, I wanna bring you up. I guess I'm gonna bring Elmo show up, because maybe I'm the sense up here.

Speaker 3: 20:42

Okay, how you doing.

Speaker 1: 20:43

Hi, how are you?

Speaker 3: 20:45

I'm doing good. I'm just gonna take a break from work real quick.

Speaker 3: 20:49

I like how you doing. So I feel like hold on one second, let me just make sure I'm just not going, okay. So I feel like, with Monica, she is cementing her place on this show and I feel like also, like I said in the chat before, I feel like she wants. She was trained by Jennifer Shaw and I feel like Jennifer Shaw probably created or had her create that account, that burner account that's sending these messages to everybody, you know, to whoever in the group, to Meredith and to Whitney. So, cause maybe Jennifer is the one that knows, or Jen is the one that knows, that Whitney is gonna say something, whitney is gonna speak up, the same way that she probably trained or told Monica, like you know who's gonna speak up in the group, and if she had a conversation, I just feel like she's playing chess with these girls and these girls are playing checkers. That's my personal opinion.

Speaker 1: 22:00

I mean, yeah, I do find it odd that she did. I mean I do find it odd that Monica's talking about it brought it all up, because you know what I'm saying. Like, it does make sense that she could be the one that's trying to create all this crap.

Speaker 3: 22:16

Listen, I am team Monica. I like let me refer you to that. I'm team myself, but I like Monica. I really like Monica. I enjoy Monica on this show. I feel like she has changed the dynamic of the show and how the show is moving. And and, Mamiir, I don't think she's doing it from jail, I think it's all Monica. I really think it's all the way, Monica.

Speaker 1: 22:43

Because, you're right, they are not talking to her.

Speaker 3: 22:46

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 22:47

You know, and maybe it's reminiscent or they see it in her, maybe because they experienced Jen, but I'm sorry. Let me get my thoughts together about what I was gonna say. So, as far as with, like last week, when she was the one who confronted or brought it back up to Meredith, and about the conversation, and then she was the one who brought up the Instagram messages that she received and how Meredith was the one who called her and was just like, did you see these messages as well? Like, I feel like Meredith may have been like unaware that. She was just like you know, she got this message about what they literally was just talking about. And now I'm calling the other person that I was just talking to about it, like, because at first I was just like maybe Meredith was working with Brooks, like maybe Brooks is doing it.

Speaker 1: 23:43

I don't know. I know we kind of have to find out too. Like I want to know who's, what's the name of that account, like apparently, because remember they were talking about how it's been sending things for like since last year, you know. So it's like. But then everybody also at the table was like kind of already like a choosing Meredith and like it was just weird, because at the end when they were saying something to Meredith she wasn't really denying it, she was, but she was like very odd about it, very odd.

Speaker 3: 24:11

Why would I? Yeah, because I thought that was odd, like what do you? Mean.

Speaker 1: 24:17

I don't have time for this. Like I would have been like what the fuck are you talking about? Show me Like, show me you know. Name them.

Speaker 3: 24:26

Yeah, I do agree, but then at the same time I just feel like maybe, like I said, maybe Meredith is over Angie. I do feel like Meredith is over Angie because even the night before I felt like they had a little thing about what at least is not us, and I thought maybe they were going to be able to kind of like start a little bit of something there, you know, trying to like build, not build something, but at least like have a common ground of being able to be around each other and be cordial to each other. It's cordial they could be, I guess you could say.

Speaker 1: 24:59

I mean, I also too, but like, but they were like. I mean, if there was a lot of people ganging up on Meredith at that one point she would not, it wouldn't.

Speaker 1: 25:09

it's not just Angie. At that point, like I would be like wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Now users are all thinking that this is happening. You know what I mean? Like I would have to, really, but see, just so confusing to me why she's letting them like accuse her of it. But again, like I don't know, I get it. I see that. I see that. I hear that.

Speaker 3: 25:27

I kind of want to see when she blows up next week when they're on the boat, cause I want to see, like what was the breaking point in that situation. I would get annoyed constantly, like cause.

Speaker 1: 25:39

All of them are going at her.

Speaker 3: 25:41

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:42

Don't not even believe her.

Speaker 3: 25:43

all of a sudden, Cause she was hella zen. She was hella zen and I'm like I was kind of here for it, because sometimes when you know you didn't do anything wrong, it's just like I don't have to like prove myself. You know, like I got the same tech questions, I got the same messages. So I kind of understand that in the aspect.

Speaker 1: 26:00

But Also too. I'd want to see. I would have to. I would have to say to Meredith let me see the ones you got, meredith, like Steve, meredith really got messages, or cause? Monica said that, meredith said she got messages too. You go check your DMs. I would want to say okay, meredith, and show them to me. Cause, why did only Monica and Meredith get these messages about Angie? Or or I didn't mean nobody else got them. They said it's just so strange.

Speaker 3: 26:29

And then right and my and also, like she said, she got those. My thing is, they're not showing this even on the show. They're not showing the Instagram account.

Speaker 1: 26:39

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 26:40

Yeah, and and they all say it's the same Instagram account. Are they saying that it's all from the same Instagram account overall?

Speaker 1: 26:49

Yep.

Speaker 3: 26:50

And it started with Mary.

Speaker 1: 26:52

Yeah, cause what he's. Yeah, we're married too, cause what needs like, the jig is up, the jig is up.

Speaker 3: 26:56

Because back then we don't, back then we didn't. Who was married at Mary enough to have sent that out about her church?

Speaker 1: 27:05

All of them, all of them started going after Mary. That season, Like the first season I remember it was, they all jumped on that bandwagon and it was a whole witch hunt.

Speaker 3: 27:14

I feel like the first one. I feel like the first one out was Jen, because I felt like the first one out was Jen, because Jen was the one who said the thing about this she doesn't go on the seven, seven, 11th. She said some other stuff for it.

Speaker 1: 27:30

I think it was. It was Lisa was talking to that, talking to somebody in Mary's family, and they were she brought it up at like it's, they were sitting around somewhere and Lisa had brought it up and was like, yeah, you know, cameron said this, cameron said that and it was Lisa telling like Whitney and Meredith was on one side of her and like I don't know who else, whoever's on the other side, and it was like you know, and then Whitney's like yeah, I heard that too and like and that was about Mary. So it's like if those were going, I mean it was kind of it was kind of Lisa that started the stuff with Mary, but I mean, but Mary was also better friends with Meredith this whole time, like Meredith kind of stayed friends with Mary. So why would Meredith do that to Mary? You know what?

Speaker 3: 28:13

I mean, and it also, it's all, and this is my other thing, to put Monica on the hot seat If it's the same Instagram account that's sending this, why would Meredith send the same? Why would Meredith send from the same Instagram account that has been sending this information for the entire all this time, from since Mary to Lisa to now Angie Like again.

Speaker 1: 28:40

I knew what you said about anybody sent anything about Meredith. You know what I mean. Like if Meredith had anything said about her, like think about it, if Meredith is the only one that's not getting DMs about her, or they're not getting DMs about Meredith issues, or whatever I said. I'm saying like I think we're kind of missing a lot of these pieces with these DMs, you know Okay.

Speaker 3: 29:00

And then the okay, well, you know it was, she knew about the gents, the gents y'all having a Rico case. But someone else said then someone else said got to work with Jen because she had a Rico case coming up. So I feel like that, but nobody got a text message, nobody got a DM about that. Like if Meredith was involved and she knew about that, she would have had that DM sit out about Jen being involved in the Rico case. So that's why I feel like Jen is associated with that Instagram, because Jen was.

Speaker 3: 29:34

Jen has never had a good relationship with Mary.

Speaker 3: 29:38

The only time we seen Jen and Mary have a good relationship was like for a snippet of a scene from like before they really really started filming, before I guess I think it became the housewives of Utah, of Salt Lake City, when they were like considering it or whatever, and Mary was going to be considered as just a friend of or something like that. But I feel like it still comes back all down to Jen Because Jen, none of the things that came out has been negative towards Jen from this Instagram account and Meredith I will agree, nothing negative about Meredith has come up from this Instagram account either, but that's not to say. But my thing is, when has Jen and Meredith really had a full falling out with me where they have not dealt with each other, outside of Meredith knowing about the Rico case? And again, her note if she knew about the Rico case and had access to this Instagram, she would have sent it. But that's why I feel like it is Monica, that's why I feel like it still goes out to Monica.

Speaker 1: 30:36

And as much as I love you, monica, I'm starting to think like she could now. I don't think it's because I don't think Jen is setting her up to do this, because I think that Jen screwed her justice badly, but I feel like she could be doing oh man, because, I don't know, maybe she did start out not liking all these ladies last year. I just feel like, did Monica even know last year she was gonna be on the show? You know what I mean be a housewife. It's weird.

Speaker 3: 31:06

I think when she was working with, I think when she was working with Jen, she knew exactly. And unless Jen comes, listen, if Jen comes out and confirms that she was gonna do it, I'll be like I'm justified, like I'm correct.

Speaker 1: 31:23

Number two Monica was the one leaking all the things about Jen Shaw's being that when she was screaming at her assistants and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah For Monica's account. Fake account.

Speaker 3: 31:34

Thank you for reminding me I did watch your show from last week. Yes, thank you, that also made me think. Oh yeah, Monica's associate was the girl.

Speaker 1: 31:43

Now I wonder, because they haven't. I'm the one I got this information from Dana. I wonder if it is watch it be because we don't know. Watch it be that account they count that Monica use. I can look at it. I forget what, it is real quick, but I set it out. I set it but because maybe they find out that it's the same account and that she's the one doing all of it.

Speaker 3: 32:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:04

But then wait a minute. I heard she also like she. She, like you know, proved herself at the reunion that it wasn't her, but I know for a fact that it was her. She was the one doing the other stuff because she admitted it. Stuff about Jen Shah, okay.

Speaker 3: 32:18

Cool. The thing is, the thing about Jen Shah. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad because, like it was just like you, kind of showing us exactly who she is. Yeah, fuck Jen Shah.

Speaker 1: 32:27

So I said she screwed her over and didn't pay her. She also fucking asked her to be a fraud card. Like you know, commit fraud, you know. So not only does she hire her, then she doesn't pay her. Then she's like, well, you can make this by being a fraud and trying to get her to do this horrible thing that, like that, puts Tua away for you know 72, you know. So it's like you know. And then she's like then she doesn't have a job because of course she's not going to keep working for her because she finds out what she's doing wrong.

Speaker 1: 32:51

I would have done like you said I would have gone. I don't think that she's doing anything in lieu of Jen Shah. I think she hates Jen Shah and I think that it's a huge fuck you to Jen Shah that Angie and Monica are on the show, which I think is wonderful, yeah, but don't understand. Maybe she started doing these DMs when she was still fighting with Lisa, when her and Angie still weren't good, but then they keep bringing it up now. It's like maybe she just didn't really forgive them. But here I am blaming her right.

Speaker 3: 33:20

No, I don't think it's her not forgiving them. I think it's she's on this show and she's doing everything she can to remain on this show and even if it's an overstep, even if it's an overstep, I honestly think so Because, like I said, she knows that they already have an issue with Meredith. So she could throw Meredith under the bus on this situation, and she can. Because the thing is, when they were having that conversation, when they were out enjoying the streets of Utah I don't know where they were at Well, where they were at they, it was probably during the time. It was probably during the time that Monica wasn't getting along with Lisa and on on the outsource, before they became cool again, and so Meredith was able to vent and she might have took that opportunity to send some, you know, off off site, you know link or whatever.

Speaker 1: 34:12

I mean I, I I hope that it's not Monica, but I just and I also find it odd that when she was crying about the family, remember how like she had that apparently these her family members called her and they canceled and all that. She assumed that Bobo, her mom, did it right, yes. And that's another thing.

Speaker 3: 34:32

I don't think that happened either.

Speaker 1: 34:34

I was like Monica, what are you doing?

Speaker 3: 34:38

I don't think she was going to go see her family.

Speaker 1: 34:40

Right, right.

Speaker 3: 34:43

You too. Okay, I thought it was just me. I didn't think she was going to see her family, because I feel like that was all. That was all it says. Let me see the text messages. Monica. Let me see it.

Speaker 1: 34:51

I want Monica to have said that I think my mom did it Right and I was like and then what could she have said to make them change their mind? And then again the great, the grandmother too. Like why wouldn't you have your grandmother call the family and be like yo, hey, what do you say? Like my grandmother's in Bermuda to stay you? Well, you know, like I would do, I would have to know a guy need I have questions about that?

Speaker 3: 35:18

No, I didn't see that reality console, or I didn't she, she. I didn't see a post from her mom in the reply.

Speaker 1: 35:25

No, what did she say? Is that recently? You mean on the bloggy thingies? Well, I said the bloggy things no, I gotta tell us because I don't know, because they probably did fight about it on social media and I missed it. But I just was like I have questions and like her mom wanted to go, but like her mom, that was her, like Monica and her mom. That would have been miserable for Monica.

Speaker 3: 35:49

You know, can I say another unpopular opinion.

Speaker 1: 35:52

Yeah, I take anything you want.

Speaker 3: 35:56

I do agree that their relationship is strange. I really do agree. I do agree that her mom is probably has been a terrible mother to her over time. But I'm not going to judge somebody's mother because I'm not somebody's mama, but I feel like they are in this together Her mama, the key for what they show by any means necessary. Because even her daughter, when her daughter was, she was talking to her daughter. I feel like when she was telling her daughter about her going to the Bermuda to see her family down there, her daughter had to take a minute to remember what the story was so she could be on task, so she could be on the same page, like, yeah, I'm really starting to like it's like I'm looking for holes. Maybe I'm looking for holes now.

Speaker 1: 36:43

Yeah, I agree, but it just is all very like. I'm a she's very assumed. I don't know. Now, knowing that she has trauma with her mom, I can understand she would assume that her mom would do that. But again, what could her mom possibly say to these people that, just in 30 years to make them change their mind after this, went down there on a you know, like to see them? If it's true, if it's true, if it's true, like and I don't want to doubt that it's not true, but why even bring up going to see your family anyway if you're not going to to? If you say that they don't even exist? Right, maybe they don't even exist.

Speaker 3: 37:21

I don't know. You have to give your connection to Bermuda for the reason why you just went to. Bermuda, your quote unquote, hosting it with Heather.

Speaker 1: 37:31

Why does it have to be again? And then we need to cast trip anyway.

Speaker 3: 37:35

Right, we can't trip anyway, but solidify yourself, because this is me and Heather drip, because y'all wouldn't be going without going to Bermuda without me. Yeah, like I said, she could be a diabolical gene. I'm not even going to use the word diabolical. She could be a genius. It's not diabolical because nobody's dying.

Speaker 1: 37:57

I mean, I kind of thought at the very beginning that Angie, angie, Monica and Whitney we're all in on. Let's try to, you know, solidify her. Let's like you know, you get you say this about my husband's and my husband and his relations outside of our marriage and you bring it up to this person and like we'll pretend to have a fight and we'll get married, just to like have a scene Because I said, jesus Christ, could they have picked a generic rumor to use. Oh, my husband, your husband's cheating with this one. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 38:26

Yeah, and I was like, and everybody, every, every franchise has that and we're all like, whatever give us proof. So I think in the, I thought in the very beginning they were all working together to like, create drama and scenes. But now I'm just so confused by everybody's behavior, by Meredith's reaction to this, except for when they see you know, we see next week when she starts flipping out because I guess finally I'd be like you know what, if you're going to keep recusing, I would finally flip out if I were Meredith, if I did do it. But again, let me see, let me see the account. Let's you know what I mean. I would be trying to. I don't know, maybe Meredith is just over it at this point, so she's like I'm not defending this, it's maybe, yeah, maybe she's over it.

Speaker 3: 39:07

Maybe she doesn't even think to let me see the account. Maybe because like it's so like, why do you keep like?

Speaker 1: 39:13

it's so deep too, like there's so many layers to this.

Speaker 3: 39:16

I'm like, look, that's a lot for me to defend.

Speaker 1: 39:21

I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole with you guys.

Speaker 3: 39:23

There's an element of you're in the Greek mafia like because I would have thought it was foolish to I'm beyond, like the Greek mafia?

Speaker 1: 39:33

I didn't. I didn't know if the Greek mafia, I didn't know there was one.

Speaker 3: 39:35

But I didn't know either. But okay, is there a movie I want to see?

Speaker 1: 39:40

And like the Greek mafia I'd be like if I were Angie, I'd be like, yeah, I'm in the Greek mafia.

Speaker 3: 39:45

Because I feel like, like she said, like it would be cool if I was in the Greek mafia.

Speaker 1: 39:49

Like why would I just feel like, yeah, I'm in the Greek mafia, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3: 39:53

I'm connected, they can't. And then, and they also, even if I thought about it, like when I thought about it, like Heather has known her since they were kids, like since they were teenagers. So yeah, if Heather's telling me that she's not in the Greek mafia, I believe it.

Speaker 1: 40:06

I mean, yeah, I believe her, I mean, but see, heather also believes what Jen Shaw said and Jen Shaw said, I actually believe that Jen Shaw wasn't guilty.

Speaker 1: 40:15

So you know what I mean. So she also lied about her black eye too, you know. But if Heather says that it must be true, yeah, all of a sudden, yeah, she has street cred. That's what I said. I was like, well, go, angie, look at you. I'm like Jen Shaw, throw her in the fucking lane. Now you're going to throw her shoes off the boat. You know what I mean. She should have threw you off the boat with cement shoes. But I just feel like you know it's like she, yeah, I don't know. I just I got to see what's happening now, because now I love Monica so much, I'm so confused by everything, because if she is doing all this, like I'm kind of be disappointed in her, because I guess, because I'm rooting for her to be friends with, I like seeing all of them get together. I really do. I liked watching Beverly Hills when they were all in Vegas getting along, not one argument the entire time.

Speaker 3: 41:06

I like this again.

Speaker 1: 41:07

is that enough for all of us to carry a show and us to watch it? I like watching it. I like seeing them all be friends and get along.

Speaker 3: 41:15

I do too. I enjoy her relationship with Heather. I enjoy her getting along with Lisa. I like her little friendship. I love her relationship with Mary. It's crazy Like when her and Mary were sitting down last week or the week before. She's like a Mary whisperer. It's amazing.

Speaker 1: 41:32

We could also get our drama from their lives. We don't need for them to have drama with each other.

Speaker 3: 41:37

We can just fit them in their lives or create it, and the thing okay. And then the thing this is the thing with Monica If she's done all of this, outside of the mom thing, because that would be messed up, if you and your mom are like literally bringing this to us like this, like wrapping this package up for this, but if she, I would forgive her because you gave me a good season, girl. You gave me a good season because I was literally I was always foot in, foot out with Salt Lake City always. I never was like a committed watcher. She has made me a committed watcher to this show now and then that's one and then two, like you said, like watching her with all of these women on this show is entertaining, like she makes them all interesting, she shows up, she's fun to watch.

Speaker 1: 42:27

She's funny.

Speaker 3: 42:28

Very funny. And then it was one of the things about her that made me say, like she needs to stay on the show. Oh, somebody needs to give her $4,000 so she can go ahead and pay.

Speaker 1: 42:41

She can go ahead and pay. Heather, you really needed that bid. I'll goddamn give it to you.

Speaker 3: 42:46

That part, like because the thing is I really need to see the string union, because if it's just this $4,000 that has separated y'all like this, that is crazy to me. And I was watching one of the YouTuber and don't get me wrong, I do watch my housewives to have money, but not have money, but the show, the opulence of like their lifestyles and everything. But yeah, there's sometimes a situation where you have a group of women who there's one or two friends that might not have as much as you but you know they're working, you know they're on a come up and one of the things that I remember being taught when I was in school networking 101, the friends that you want around you are the friends that are above you or ahead of you, like who can teach you where you want to go, teach you about where you want to go. Not all your friends, but yeah, those type of friends you want to have, those type of friends that you want to look up to and try to achieve what they have. You know, not that you're jealous or envious, but you know they show something that's attainable.

Speaker 3: 43:48

So and then I'm trying to think, like a lot of these girls that show up on these shows first season, second season Nini, when she showed up on this show she didn't have it all. She wasn't the written bitch that she says that she is right now Today. If you remember, on the first like season, the first episodes like she was getting her hair done, makeup done, didn't never got that done because she wanted to show up at one of the charades parties.

Speaker 1: 44:11

Yeah, I know, so like so yeah, like I just I'm now listening to her talk about that.

Speaker 3: 44:19

So in the real world you will have women who hang around, who have friends, who might not be in the same tax bracket as them, but they are in the same social circle for whatever reason. Maybe we work together, but you might be under me, but we still get along and I like having you around, not today. Hold on, wait a minute. Okay, I'm sorry. I had a notification for a meeting coming up. Okay, go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker 1: 44:45

Did you say patient?

Speaker 3: 44:48

I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 44:49

Did you say you have a patient coming up?

Speaker 3: 44:50

No, I have a notification for a meeting coming up.

Speaker 1: 44:54

Okay, I mean I agree, like I like my friends, like I don't require much out of my friends, really honestly, like I just, you know, be loyal. It's it like very little, simple things. You know, it takes a lot for me to like, you know, I don't know. I mean I guess because we're not like housewives, so I can't look at it that way, but, like I do, I enjoy watching them. But I think I enjoy, I watch the money thing if it's real money. You know what I mean, because I'm tired of us getting played with the whole money thing. If it's real money, I like how Monica, I just like how she's just which she went with her affair and like with the brother-in-law, like it's just so juicy, like she has so much all the drama that they're creating, like you said. So I don't want them to create fake drama, I don't want to create arguments, because I don't want to watch them fight each other.

Speaker 2: 45:40

I want to know what's going maybe a little bit.

Speaker 1: 45:42

For why don't each other here and there just like how it used to be with OC, just kind of how it is on like Miami right now, because their real lives have a lot that we could go and get into if they're. But then again also I don't know how see, like back in the day, all those their families were a part of the show and their drama was part of the show. I feel like recently their families aren't even involved in the drama anymore.

Speaker 1: 46:07

Yeah, we all see it a lot and it's like I remember the days with Vicki, like with Vicki's daughters. Their families were always in on it.

Speaker 3: 46:15

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 46:16

You know, and we knew everything was going on in their lives and say not to fight, but hit on their lives. Now what do we have? We've had a bunch of women that go to dinner all the time they get drunk because they don't have them hanging out and I guess maybe the families aren't allowed to be like we have. Like maybe we'll seek ourselves family, yeah.

Speaker 1: 46:30

And I feel like it's I don't know, like I don't know, like then you know, if Vicki did create all this stuff, it would be awful because I'm like, if someone's necessary, because, like you have such a juicy life and like you fought with Lisa, it was funny to watch her fight with Lisa and then the makeup, like you know, it was funny to see how Heather kind of like would you know with Lisa and then in the mission thing, and like that was you know what I mean. Like there's other stuff. So like this stuff, like I would want to know who really is doing this.

Speaker 3: 47:01

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 47:02

Really talking about Angie's. Like again going after Angie's family and trying to get Monica to talk about it, like did they want Monica to reveal it or something I don't know? Like why did you send them to Monica's what I'm saying? Why you send them to a content creator? Think about it.

Speaker 3: 47:19

And that's the thing I want to know if any of the content creators receive things like that, because I saw, I saw your, your, your show last week. Like has anybody else received those same messages that were showed up in their DMs? I mean, I don't think so, because I think if not, it's only within the cast that is being sent, that's crazy about how crazy.

Speaker 1: 47:43

Now Think about how crazy that is. Why are all these women? If you want to really expose these women, why aren't you sending them to, like you know? You would be sending them to us, like Monica did to Jen Shaw.

Speaker 3: 47:55

Yeah, and the same thing with. What's the name of that. What's the name of that thing? Um, not the name, but the thing with Lisa. That was a Lisa. Oh yeah, the Lisa was the second for basketball tickets. Like no one else. No one else received that. But when it came to Potomac, um, when the whole thing with Jamal cheating on or seeing other people every like, there was so many other content creators that said I received that same information too. I got that same information. I got that same information that Monique, you know, talked about. There was so many people that got that same information. So the fact that, like, it's only staying within the cast of Salt Lake City is like mind boggling. It's crazy to me.

Speaker 1: 48:36

That's a good thing. What if the producers? What if the seventh, eighth housewife is doing it? What if the producers are so tired of like being having to sit around all day to make drama?

Speaker 3: 48:45

Maybe the producers are doing it, I thought about the fact that Monica could be a producer plant as well. That as well, like she's working with the producers.

Speaker 1: 48:55

I mean, look, they hired two people. They hate Jen Shaw so much, it's so much. I hate so much that, like the producers were like we got to keep this one, like we got to you know this is going off Jen's ass, but like again, they don't need to because we got other drama going on. If Angie's is really, if Angie's really in financial ruin or Sean's really cheating, we're like Meredith and her podcast. What's that Like?

Speaker 3: 49:19

that's not real, that's not entertaining, that's not.

Speaker 1: 49:24

It's not. It's not, it's not real. That's not entertaining. Who lied to Meredith, please? Who wanted to know about her and Seth's trajectory, and like I don't know which one of you people I would like to know who told her that we wanted to hear about that, because if you think about this before this, because the thing is, even with the Meredith and Angie situation, it wasn't dying down.

Speaker 3: 49:45

Well, it was dying down. They just didn't like each other, you know, and it was becoming. I feel like Meredith storyline was just becoming her and Seth's marriage and yada, yada it was. And I feel like this reactivated everybody in the group, that everybody in the group has something going on right now with somebody, even if it's like you had, and I feel like everybody has an A, b and some of them have a C storyline with everybody on the show, you know, and so, and like, and I need them, and I need Heather to get out of her ass, and like, girl, you're going to film with, you're going to film with Monica, you're going to film with her.

Speaker 1: 50:23

And the producers are taking Mary out purposely, right, I heard I still don't know why. Maybe like they, literally like Mary said, they stopped me from filming and I was loving Mary's friendship with, like how you said, Monica's, the Mary whisperer.

Speaker 1: 50:39

I was kind of upset because I don't, you know, I don't understand. Again, they wanted her to come. I know that she said I mean, she said I'm just going to do this because you need me to. I don't know, but I feel like we could have had, we could have had the Mary whisperer pull Mary into the group because Mary does need friends. You know we do need a Fox force five over here. We could have Mary, Angie, Monica, maybe nitwit, I don't know.

Speaker 3: 51:02

We need to have talked to Mary about the whole situation, because we need to delve more deeper into your son's situation. That's your life. That's your life. How, how was that affecting you? Your son with the jail. He's living in your house and you did not. You did not know he was married girl, Like he is. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 51:17

Like yeah, there's a lot going on in Mary's life too. Like I'm like, holy shit, her son's doing what he's being. I mean, I know he's a married man and he's not acting like an adult. He's doing some dumb stuff, but they are still kids, kind of I don't know Whatever he's got going on.

Speaker 1: 51:33

he's doing the same thing, that like there's a lot of kids that are struggling with abuse or not abuse I'm sorry, drug abuse and it's that's normal. I mean that's not normal, but like that's something that goes on everywhere. That could have been. You know Mary's storyline a little bit, but they're taking Mary out for some reason. And here they said they made her stop filming or something. They stopped inviting her. She said it was the producers.

Speaker 3: 51:54

I feel like they might have felt like Mary, because I don't know who produces this one. I feel like Mary. Maybe they saw Mary.

Speaker 3: 52:02

They felt like Mary was being mean, rude, because I feel like I've seen some content creators say that she felt they felt like she's being crotchety and things like that, and that she doesn't want to be there. So maybe they taking her out of the group or the circle, but I thought they need to put her back in because maybe she didn't want to. Mary not going on this trip, I'm fine with it. I understand she's a friend of it's cool.

Speaker 3: 52:25

I mean but I think that but maybe Monica should have. Like I want Mary to be, I would have, I would have liked Mary hers thing, like I want you to be there.

Speaker 1: 52:34

Let me see Produces. I think it's shed, shed media. Shed media does Salt Lake City, so we know why it's so weird and odd. Yeah, you could tell even by the music, the difference in evolution media like evolution and shed media. I know, and I feel like they also are the ones that were used to do Vanderpump and I also think that they're also who they created. They wanted scandable to be a thing, shed media, so they're like the eighth housewife. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 53:08

I can see that they take.

Speaker 1: 53:10

Mary out. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I'm sure she's worried that I don't know I know she's worried about obviously she is, but like that's real, I want to see Mary with real emotions Maybe. I mean, you know, she doesn't have to film this part of her life, but again, we don't need to be. The drama does not have to be with each of the women. They could be backing each other up. Go get Lisa Hoxdeen, the second. She had something really horrible happened to her. The women were rallying around her and we couldn't wait to watch it. What was going to happen? Like how Larsa was there, for you know what I mean. Yeah, so, like we do, like now, I think evolution does me say I'm pretty sure evolution, because the different I can tell kind of, we can kind of tell the difference.

Speaker 3: 53:56

Let me say, oh, my amy is oh no, I don't know who does Miami.

Speaker 1: 54:03

It says oh, it's, it's perv, it's a different.

Speaker 3: 54:06

A perv, okay, well, yeah, I like a very pop. I cannot wait for my amy tonight.

Speaker 1: 54:15

I know I like it. I also like I didn't watch Potomac. So I usually do Potomac today, but I just I don't want to watch it anymore because I was getting really like, I was being really mean. I just didn't want to keep being like that because it was just I don't know, Did you watch it?

Speaker 3: 54:31

No, I didn't. No, no, no. I watched literally the everyone talk about it and, like some of the people I watched that talk about it literally. They also was just like I watched it. But I'm not going to like talk about the show. I'm just going to talk about my feelings.

Speaker 2: 54:48

I should go.

Speaker 1: 54:50

We both you watch the Brooke Ashley right.

Speaker 3: 54:52

I do watch the Brooke, Ashley. I feel like she's about to like be done with it as well. I think the last one she did is her last last one.

Speaker 1: 54:59

Yeah, I want to watch her. I'll watch her after we have because I didn't watch the show, but I'll watch her recap because I love her. I'm like she's so like I don't know how she does it, but I can't. I'd like to do these live, but I don't know how she goes. She's on point, you know with her, like she's good, she goes right through it, she's really good, but I just I don't know.

Speaker 3: 55:20

Yeah, I don't want to talk about Potomac because I feel almost hopeless.

Speaker 1: 55:25

It is bad. So where's I at? Yeah, I don't even know what Bobo did. Did Bobo call the family? I don't know. Now see the thing with with that, I can't unknow what I know about Paris and the whole I. Now that I know that, like Nikki's married to a Rothschild, I can't even get my. It freaks me out to watch them. So I stopped watching Kardashians when I went on Hulu and I stopped watching. I'm very upset about Kathy Hilton. I don't want to watch her. I don't want to watch it anymore. I don't want to watch them. Everybody says how good it is, but I just don't want to watch it.

Speaker 3: 55:59

Yeah, I've heard how good it is. What I really hear about it is she seems disconnected from her kid.

Speaker 1: 56:06

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 56:06

Paris does. That's the main thing I hear about Paris on Paris, and love that. She seems disconnected and like she might need therapy or I don't know if she's in therapy.

Speaker 1: 56:18

I don't understand them. Why should have another one then? I don't know what's weird. Why would you go and have another one? I don't think she's connected to this one, because it could be postpartum.

Speaker 3: 56:29

I don't think she realized it. I don't think she realizes that she's disconnected. When I say disconnected I mean like my understanding, because I don't like it. Like she comes in, like she works so much that she like holds the baby for a couple of seconds, give them back to the nanny and keeps about her day, you know, and it's gone, gone, gone, gone, gone. The next day, same thing Hose, the baby. I think they said that the baby was six months. I forgot how many months older baby was before she actually changed the kids diaper. Yeah, but you know what? I don't know the line. I don't know what I would do if I had that money. I don't know how my life would be.

Speaker 1: 57:05

I mean yeah. I get.

Speaker 3: 57:07

Yeah, I mean in all my life. I don't know, you know, but I do blame. I do blame Kathy for that. I do blame Kathy for that relationship.

Speaker 1: 57:17

You know being like that, I do blame yeah, because I also blame, like I hear these things about. Kathy was very abusive to Kyle just like the mother was and the mother was very abusive and I didn't realize all that until just recently. So you know, disconnected from your child, I mean Harris has probably been through hell when we know she has.

Speaker 1: 57:38

But I know, I don't mean like I'm going to get another one like that. But I mean, like if you're already making sure she doesn't realize she's disconnected, but again, why are you somebody If she other people are realizing it like and maybe addressing with her? I don't know, but like I just realized that she didn't have them biologically, so it's postpartum even a thing, or no.

Speaker 3: 57:57

I think so. I think I think it is because you have to wait. Who is that? Chloe Kardashian? She said something about that. Like the second baby, she didn't feel the same connection that she had with the first, yeah, and the second one was through a surrogate, so I can see how you might not feel the same way.

Speaker 1: 58:21

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 58:22

So I feel like that is a type of postpartum.

Speaker 1: 58:25

Yeah, um, yeah, I mean I oh but I'm not a second. I get like why also? Like, yeah, I mean, I think there's, so I think it's just there's. When I, I don't know, you know, but I don't know, Well, I don't even get into a whole conspiracy thing, but anyway, attachment with that too. But I also like with candy. Remember Candy Barra said she was afraid of not being attached to the baby. And she's so attached to her daughter. She said it's even better.

Speaker 1: 58:55

It's even more of an attachment because she's closer with her daughter, because she just felt like you know first she wasn't, so I think maybe it like she made her bond with her. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 59:06

So, first of all, candy looked like she spit that baby out. Candy daughter looked just like her. She just came from her.

Speaker 1: 59:13

She just turns the gold, so everything's gonna be perfect, right?

Speaker 3: 59:17

And also I feel like you, I don't again, I don't know, I have not had a kid. I have wanted a kid and I think if I, if I had a surrogate or whatever, like give me my baby, because even with my God kids, I'm just like when they come over, I'm like give me my baby, like I know they belong to you, but give me my baby.

Speaker 1: 59:34

I don't know if I could do that. I don't know if I could have a baby. I don't have kids and I I've never had it in me to have them. For some reason I never wanted them. And it's also another thing, like with my mental health and my addiction, stuff like that too. But I also didn't have it in me. I've never. But I love my, like my best friend's kid, Like I love it. But I cannot, I don't have it in me, I don't have the patients. So I knew that. So I didn't you know what I mean. So I didn't. I didn't want to go through like. I didn't want to put my kids through what my like I went through. Like my mom watched me go through hell and I watched her go through hell, watching me go through hell. I'm not able to help me.

Speaker 3: 1:00:07

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:00:08

So it's like I just didn't want to have to. You know, and I guess maybe like some, consciously, that just was me, you know, I just I still to this day, and my husband too, didn't want them either. It's weird, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:00:18

I'm not even going to get to that, but yeah, I, we, I still have debates in this household about kids, so we'll see where we land. We'll see where we land. Um, but yeah, I love kids, I love babies, I love children, but I love the independence of my life, I love the freedoms of my life. Right now it's amazing and, um, like I'm trying to get my husband on the same page. Let's just say I'm trying to get my husband on the same page, like, do you see where we're enjoying ourselves and we have to literally stop, like when, before my dog, that we literally had to stop and be like so where we going to take the dog, we're going to the dog, and that was like an easy decision compared to kids. So, just like, I'm just like, just imagine with kids, like we would have to stop our lives for yeah, forever, yeah, forever, yeah, I've never. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:01:08

And I, and I feel the same way I we are finally like 46 years old.

Speaker 1: 1:01:13

I'm 46. He's we're 46. So we're at this point there's no reason that I wouldn't do it. But, like we still all this time last year, I don't want to spend my money on it. I don't you know the money part of it. Like we're. Finally, you know houses paid off and we're like to actually have to. Like it would just changes everything. And, like you know, my front, my brother, sister, they all have kids but like, even with my cats, I don't go to the shore house because I can't bring my cats and I don't want to leave them home. So imagine, like it's a lot to have to bring my cat and I don't want somebody depending on me every day of their life, Like every day for 18 years plus.

Speaker 1: 1:01:49

you know like, like, fully depending on me Like yeah, yes, yes, time spoiling the shit out of Marines kids, I, I, yes, yes. So these I'd be interested here. That's what message.

Speaker 3: 1:02:04

Okay, and you kind of made me kind of want to go check that out, because the fact that she opens up with that opens up about her mom and she understands that she works too much. I might want to go kind of see and investigate.

Speaker 1: 1:02:17

Yeah, really I am also like so I should get back to what I love this whole episode. But like what? Like at the end of it I don't even remember. Like where am I at? Here they go, jessica, everything was fun, everything was everything was fun, except for when we get to the end and it's like, you know, I don't understand, like everybody's, I don't know, it was just strange, it was strange. My reaction is strange, like she doesn't really say much, but like she does look guilty again. But then I'm like well, maybe her and Monica are working together. Does she take something before? Oh my God, see, I don't like to deflect because I also had a. You know what I mean. I sometimes I'm like no, just because I used to take Xanax doesn't mean everybody else is Again, that could be true because, remember, she said she didn't feel good either.

Speaker 3: 1:03:07

Yeah, and then the fact that she didn't have alcohol, like she wanted tea. I feel like there's a reason why we saw that she had tea. Like I feel like she had something. I feel like she took something and she knew she makes it with alcohol. She would have to replay or what happened on the on the flight and she didn't want that. So let me just have some tea and I'll be fine.

Speaker 1: 1:03:29

Yeah, I mean I think maybe she did take another, maybe at that dinner when they were first to use it, or she did take something. I mean because that would have calmed me down. I would have been like, yeah, right, okay, whatever. And then eventually, you know, the next time I would be like wait a minute, what happened now? What did you do? Let's go with that. You know what I mean. Like now, let me, let's get this down.

Speaker 1: 1:03:48

Because when you were trying to deal with it with me, I was like too, and I don't want to fight with you, I don't want them to fight with me, I don't want to fight with them, I don't want them all to fight and I don't want to see them fight either. I guess that could be just me. I would rather see all the drama that's going on in Monica's. I still don't know what her boyfriend looks like. We just know what her ex-husband looks like. And also, do you realize it was also like almost 10, 12 years ago that happened with her husband? She's been like really divorced for a while, separate for a while.

Speaker 3: 1:04:16

Yeah. And then someone said something no, no, no, I saw your show last week and I don't know if anybody boarded up. She said that they split up and got back together.

Speaker 1: 1:04:30

They did. I didn't remember that.

Speaker 3: 1:04:31

Yeah, at the beginning she said, because she said that her sex was so good, he had to come back a second time, or something like that. The husband that's what she said on her first episode.

Speaker 1: 1:04:44

I don't remember If she cheated on him.

Speaker 3: 1:04:48

I don't think that's a thing. I don't know if it was after she cheated on him or she cheated on him the second time around, and that's why they got divorced divorced and now it's over over. But she said that they were together. They split up or something like that, or broke up and then they got back together because the sex was so good, or something like that.

Speaker 1: 1:05:06

Oh damn. Monica said that oh, wow, okay, my man, I missed that little part. Wow, I also. I said with Heather, okay, at the end of Pirate Dinner when she talks about this stupid game, the Mary kill, whatever it is. Or then, what did they say? That was funny. That was actually kind of funny.

Speaker 3: 1:05:27

That was cute. I was just like, okay, these girls' feelings get hurt real easy. And so I do feel like somebody said in the chat, I do feel like oh gosh, oh gosh. I do feel like Seth was feelings was getting hurt about I'm sorry Mary's feelings were getting hurt about Seth, but I feel like you know, I feel like Heather saw it and was just like I'm a Mary fuck and kill Seth because I'll get the money in the end. Like I feel like she thought because she looked like she was getting upset because everybody was killing Seth.

Speaker 1: 1:05:59

I mean like I would laugh at it, though. You know what I mean. I'm a mother of a woman. Fuck said I know. Well, I mean I don't want to fuck Seth either. I want to fuck either John Barlow. I want to fuck Sean. You know what I mean. Like I would fuck Sean, I would kill Seth and marry. I would marry John Barlow, like you know what I mean. Like I would, I wouldn't. I don't know if I would do that with my husband's friends. I don't know if I could sit around with my girlfriends and do that, though.

Speaker 3: 1:06:27

I wouldn't do it with my husband's friends. I wouldn't do it with my friends. I wouldn't do it with my friends' friends, no.

Speaker 1: 1:06:36

I think what me and my friends would laugh about it. Actually, because Marine knows I would kill Frank. So I would fucking kill Frank every goddamn day. I hate that motherfucker. Sorry, love you Frank, sorry. So it's like easy. I wouldn't say I'd fuck my husband, because that's just obvious, right? I'm trying to think.

Speaker 3: 1:06:53

But that was like somebody got away with that, like a couple of them got away. Didn't Meredith get away with that? Yeah, there's something sexy about Seth, but he's one of those dudes that open his no, no, no. He's one of those dudes who open his mouth and you're like, never mind.

Speaker 1: 1:07:10

Never mind, it's sweet, it's sweet, it's sweet, it's way too trying to sleep. I swear he was trying to sleep with Whitney and Justin during the time.

Speaker 3: 1:07:18

Yeah, and Justin, that's. I'm sorry I would. I would have sex with Justin. Justin is my type, I like. I like a. I like a thick dude who likes to play football, so I like big too.

Speaker 1: 1:07:29

You know what? Sorry, tali, I have to screw Lenny. Sorry, I'm so my friend's husband. I'm trying to think which one of my, which one of us would, because I know which one that would pick on that I love cause my friends they'll laugh about it, they're going to laugh about it. But, um, I think I think everybody, I think my husband's friends would all kill me. I think I'd be killed. I'd be the one getting killed if they, if my husband played it with his friends, with their wives. I'd be the one getting killed because I'm like, allowed mouth, big mouth.

Speaker 3: 1:07:52

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:07:53

Yeah, I mean he's. I can see what Whitney's attraction to Justin was because he was a boss, but like I can see like he has a very like yeah, and it's always the quiet ones too, you know, cause my husband's always quiet. Was there like real, you know, sexier, like like like in bed, like good in bed, I guess, I don't know. Like John Barlow seems like he's probably good in bed. Oh my God, why am I thinking about all that? Oh, that was the. I stopped. I know Other people who did you guys all win the last time? He's all had sex and I was thinking to myself I didn't realize that only single ones were, cause I'm like, well, that's a question. That's kind of funny a question.

Speaker 3: 1:08:29

But I was like, oh, I have to go soon, I have to go soon, but I have to ask a question. I have to go to this. First of all, monica actually is the one who asked that question, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, okay, but as far as the the her asking about Heather's daughter having sex, what did you think about that?

Speaker 1: 1:08:48

I. I thought it was odd, like the with advice from the root root cause. You are veryfö wła f? Dp. I don't know why she did it like I was gonna ask you guys what. I don't know why she asked her that. I Don't know why I kind of missed that conversation, but then I heard her say that and Heather's like I don't, I'm not gonna tell you about my daughter sex life, and I don't know why. Monica asked that. It was very strange and I don't think she was getting slut shamed either. I don't think that she's slut shamed, monica.

Speaker 3: 1:09:14

No, I don't think she got slut shame, I thought it was I. Was it honestly Okay? I honestly wasn't mad at her asking that question. Because Monica asking that question, because Heather is so open and she has said in the past I want my had daughters to have sex, be protected, but I want them to enjoy life or whatever. And I'm not. I wasn't mad at her asking the question and I wasn't mad at Heather's answer of saying like that's my daughter and that's her, that's her personal thing. I mean, that's not for me to even discuss. That's what she wants to share, that with me. That's between me and her. You know what I'm saying. But I Feel like it should have been left right there because I feel like it's okay, like you're, like the thing is, this show has to show like I'm making boundaries and my friendships. You know what I'm saying, it's okay to show that.

Speaker 3: 1:10:03

There you go. I didn't. I didn't like Heather taking it back to her daughter. That's what I didn't like.

Speaker 1: 1:10:09

No, no, no, exactly. I said Heather, what are you doing? She's like I'm mom being a super mom and I'm gonna be sure I stick up. And I was like Heather, and that's what I and then Heather yelling about. I'm not gonna say the last time I had sex I'm the only one who's single, and Heather getting offended about it, and that's where I'm like. That's why that's where in my brain I said Heather, that's some it bread thinking, saying that Monica's not single. How's Monica not single? Because she was banished from the church. It's not her fault. He won't divorce her. And Heather, you are single, just like Monica and you. You are open about sex, about that question. Think about it.

Speaker 3: 1:10:50

I don't think there's a problem with that question. I want to address reality condors statement. I don't think it's nobody's, I don't think it's anybody's business as far as my kids having sex, but I'm a but my issue with Monica asking it in that circumstance. I don't have an issue with Monica asking, but my issue with her asking that circumstances. We're on TV, we are on TV and this is my daughter. I'm not putting my daughter out there like that. I'm telling you my daughter's living the best life, that she, that she wants to live in in California. This is my, but I'm not gonna tell you, I'm not gonna speak on that because we are on TV. But if, if, what's the girls like? If Monica had to put that up without cameras, without mics, on to Heather, that's a different story because, like, we're both raising nothing but girls. So tell me how you are approaching your daughter having sex in college away from you, because I'm gonna be coming up on those Years with my daughter soon like that's a that's.

Speaker 1: 1:11:44

But again, I still feel like, why do you even want to know?

Speaker 3: 1:11:47

why you want to know.

Speaker 1: 1:11:52

Yeah, again, why do you want to know? That's weird, I Feel weird about it. Like I'm like why? Because I'm like, wait a minute, huh, they're daughter sex life and against, like I'm Monica, I don't know why you want to know about that. You could find out by, probably. I don't know if you're aware of what our daughter's doing. I just don't think that, like I Don't know, I don't like that at all, I.

Speaker 1: 1:12:14

But then Heather, again, I don't know why Heather had to even bring up for a door. I just feel like it's a various odd question and I don't think that it's something for them to talk about private, because they're in college and I think Monica and her daughter have a great relationship as it is Mm-hmm. I think that her daughter, she, doesn't need to get any advice about how. You know, I don't. It's weird. I don't know why she asked it. I don't think it was for any kind of like. I Don't know. I need to ask her why. Monica, you know I'm on your side. I need to know why we had that even came up.

Speaker 3: 1:12:42

I think she just wants to feel close with, like that's one of those things you know. I Maybe it's a girl, maybe it's a girlfriend question like would you, would you ask your girlfriend, like your close girlfriend, about their kid? Oh no, I'm like, if my god, I'm just gonna speak on my godkids. I mean they don't have a relationship like this, but I'm still my godkids. If Come times with my godkids when they get in that room, I'm gonna be talking to the mother-in-law. They're like I have these conversations right.

Speaker 1: 1:13:08

That's your. They're almost like your kids, though too.

Speaker 3: 1:13:11

Yeah, they didn't come on my womb, but these my babies, I don't know what.

Speaker 1: 1:13:15

Exactly, I even like, I think about, like I would probably go to a Marines cat. You know what I mean. I, I have that relationship with them, but like I don't know if I would there. These girls are so much older, like Heather's.

Speaker 3: 1:13:27

You don't know them like that yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:13:29

She has a whole boyfriend, monica. What do you think she's doing? I don't know. What do you think Monica like? Why do you? I don't know.

Speaker 3: 1:13:36

And then, another thing about her, another thing about bringing up the kids, like that, and if she was to say yes or something like that, these fans, the Bravo fans, are Rabbit, like they Go for the blood and they and they go for the kids and we have seen it time, you know. We've seen it happen that, and that's what I feel like. That's the reason why people on these shows bring their kids out like they don't put them on like they Used to, you know, like Jersey used to, you know, jerseys that really have their kids front and center, you know, at events and things like that.

Speaker 1: 1:14:10

I also do. I remember I liked watching when all the families in Iraq, even like them and our children I like remember because that's how we got Caroline's family and not a show, because we were able to see the drama going on each family's lives. Now I feel like our housewives are just like it's just them getting together and they're going out to eat because they're trying to like create, like they did it with OC, because nobody wants to. The families are done with these. They don't really want to film anymore. I think that the show them relying on Making up drama between the women is just gonna fail. It's gonna fail. It's failing because we are so interested in their other lie, like their lives, and it's like wait a minute, what are we doing? We still have no idea which with her husband's situation, or we don't know what the boyfriend and miss. I'm like we're halfway there and we don't know anything and we're not. Who's sending fake DMs?

Speaker 3: 1:15:02

Are you talking about with Monica, or who you talking about?

Speaker 1: 1:15:04

Monica, like with Monica, I want to know about her husband. I want to know what the guy that she slept with looks like. I want to know what happened with yeah, and they don't even eat. Well, I want to know what happened with that dude. I want to know what he looks like. I want to know what's going on with the grandmother rise, the grandmother not talking to the mother. I don't want the mother there. You know what I mean. And I like we used to be able to see everything going on with, like Vicki's kids. We knew everything about them because they were on the show.

Speaker 1: 1:15:28

Mamiya now the shows even like what I guess maybe you see it's getting older. They're not doing that anymore. Their families are just tired and don't want to be on.

Speaker 3: 1:15:36

Don't shut. And I understand, I get it. I get it. I wouldn't want to be if my mom was on this show and they were rude to my mom with the earth like they were assholes. I wouldn't want to be on this show either. Like, what do we have to do this show? Like if our lives were good without this show. Do we have to do this? Like you know, like, especially if I was young. But and then like, sometimes you probably be in settings where people know your mom and they're like, oh my god, look at you. Like, look at you. I remember, I remember when you you ran through your mom's house in her drawers. Like you like, thanks a lot, mom, for putting me on blast and put me on this show.

Speaker 3: 1:16:13

But my mother says something about Monica. Honestly, I feel like Monica would put like, would embarrass her daughters on this show in some way. I Do like, do like I hate to say it, but I do, and again and I don't I'm not saying it would be on purpose Like I love the conversation that she had with her daughter. I love the fact that she opened up and she told us, like you know, she's not my husband's child, but like he raised her like she was my own. Some people had questions as to like the timeline behind it, but again, that's not my business, that my you know like. But as far as um, oh, I lost my thought there go young.

Speaker 1: 1:16:54

She's like 19. I think she had her. She said yeah, she was down or she married or something like that.

Speaker 3: 1:17:00

Or was what I do think inadvertently I do think inadvertently she would embarrass her daughters like in some type of way or say something like well, my daughter is the, the, the, the, the, the. I let her like she's on birth control and she's just like anything, cuz, anything. I mean like you don't why you hip-hop, like we might just, you know, it's like just be too much. But again, I just feel like she is a firecracker. I gotta go. I thought she's a firecracker. I feel like she is explosive. I actually love it. I'm not mad at it. Um, I am. I support her because until she came on this show, I was literally just I was double-dutching, like do I want to hop in or do I want to hop out? Crystal, my love, always a joy, and Thank you for Instagram tip.

Speaker 3: 1:17:50

Yeah, I gotta turn right. I had some of my notifications on Instagram so I won't miss miss messages, but I'll try to be through on Friday I'm.

Speaker 1: 1:18:04

Have a good day. Love Everybody's on her. Love I love when she comes up. Oh, did you just pop up? Did I miss you? I'm enlarge is him.

Speaker 2: 1:18:15

Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm late.

Speaker 1: 1:18:17

It's okay, I was just about to. Um, yeah, what's up with your thoughts on, like on a salt lake, on this whole situation?

Speaker 2: 1:18:26

Well, it sounds like LD, though, is quite the Interruptor. She's like crazy. Who does that to their own daughter and poor Monica she was, so that had to. I literally was crying at the feeling.

Speaker 2: 1:18:44

I like I remember being in high school and just feeling so alone, like, and those were supposed to be friends. But you imagine feeling alone in a world like, with no family, tethers, like that's not a great feeling and the only person that is your tether is constantly sabotaging any chance you have. Yeah, it's just so weird. Like I know with Monica or something I do, I think I'm fine.

Speaker 1: 1:19:10

Do you have me play in the background or something?

Speaker 2: 1:19:12

No, I'm only. I'm on my cell phone. Why is it echoing?

Speaker 1: 1:19:17

Um, hold on, it was what I. Now it's not. It was when I was doing it, so earlier did you? I don't know if you heard me, but like we were kind of questioning if that really even happened, like I'm kind of Already- posted about it.

Speaker 2: 1:19:28

Monica already posted about it. She's like look, people are there, they're questioning whether or not she's a brown girl because she's Latina and, like you know, latinos are considered brown and you know our brown brothers, and so she People are like oh, you're not even brown, you're passing. All that is the spray tan, like no, the only spray tan. There is Lisa Barna.

Speaker 2: 1:19:53

Literally an olive skin girl and now they're attacking, whether or not her family even everyone was part of it. She released text messages with production that they had talked to her family, that they had a house to go to that they were eager to film. Yes, she had reposted. If you go to her IG right now, it's up there in her stories and so her mom really did do all that or will hurt.

Speaker 1: 1:20:20

Well, get back out.

Speaker 2: 1:20:22

Yeah, they really did back out. She has the all the stuff up there and then she also says in her things like amazing, like you turn on the internet and Everybody's telling her what her life did. Nobody was in Bermuda with her, nobody was on the phone with her, nobody knows anything, but everybody's so willing to just believe she's a liar. But you want to believe. I'm not sure where these people are getting their sources from. Like who are they to believe? Who they believe over the person that did it, even if you don't like that person.

Speaker 1: 1:20:53

Yeah, I Mean, I just I wanted I did they say why they backed out. Like I just didn't understand, I need I had follow-up questions like why did they really back out? Like um.

Speaker 2: 1:21:03

She didn't say in the text if you go, look at them, yeah, it doesn't say why they backed out, it just confirms that they were in fact supposed to go. And she said that LD is her mom. Yeah, she's, like you guys know for a fact. Ld would have loved to get on here and Tell you guys that I was lying about this. You know it, and she hasn't done that yet.

Speaker 1: 1:21:28

So I Just wonder if, like what would make them change their mind. Like what? Which? What could she possibly say, ld, to make them change their mind that drastically? Like what could she have said that they would believe her like?

Speaker 2: 1:21:43

and then why did the grandmother step in and say, hey, this is well if you've never met that grandmother before and the only person that you've ever Met, because this was her mom side of the family. That she hasn't been to before right.

Speaker 1: 1:21:55

Well, I didn't see them in like 30 years or something, but yeah, so you were a kid last time.

Speaker 2: 1:22:01

Your only connection is an adult who's tip filling your heads with all these things.

Speaker 1: 1:22:06

Well, now the grandmother too. It's the grandmother Stanley too.

Speaker 2: 1:22:09

Yeah, well, hey, they must have some kind of there, even in the text. It was like one guy didn't want to go to the other cousins house. They want to know okay at this house because they don't get along. And yeah, if you read the text, there's other family dynamics going along. But I just say you know what? Enough is being revealed in this world that we don't have to make lives up on people, just do you know what I'm? Saying like let this woman live People are.

Speaker 2: 1:22:36

When Jin Shaw was a whole criminal on this show, people were making up lies to make her not a criminal. And now we don't have no criminals on the show, so now we make an innocent people criminals. People need to get their ass together.

Speaker 1: 1:22:48

Now what about the whole Meredith Like? Do we see what the actual account was, that they're choosing Meredith of sending all this?

Speaker 2: 1:22:57

Merit is a lawyer, she's an ex-wire, she has a JD. I don't think that she's spending her time doing anything that is as Malicious or can be proven in a court of law that would ever get her disbarred or questioned. She might be a little messy, she might be cryptic, but I don't believe for a split second that a woman of Meredith stature would Do would pull a Lisa Rena allegedly or pull a lip-li, a lip-licking lizard Diana Jenkins allegedly.

Speaker 1: 1:23:30

So why do you think behind?

Speaker 2: 1:23:32

it. I think that maybe there really is some kind of account, that one some stuff out and even so, like if the Records that are being released aren't confidential, are a form of a public record.

Speaker 2: 1:23:46

You know, these vloggers and youtubers are going crazy with trying to be the one to bring people's dirt out into the front. You know what? I didn't think of that. You can totally go on. You can type in. If anybody knew my real name, you could type it in and buy a report of what you think is a fact about me.

Speaker 1: 1:24:04

Yeah, I get it. I never thought about it. I thought I was thinking it was one of the women like maybe it's not about, maybe it is just somebody that's like I don't know why they don't show us the name of the account you know Well, you know what that was interesting the name. Maybe they don't want to give it.

Speaker 2: 1:24:18

You know if you're, if you're a troll bot account, who would want to give that shine? But you know who might know is Patrick summer. Where is Patrick summer when they were they?

Speaker 1: 1:24:32

protecting. It's weird.

Speaker 2: 1:24:34

Well, I feel like you. Maybe they aren't protecting anybody, maybe they just don't want to add to any additional inquiries to that.

Speaker 1: 1:24:44

Me you're accusing me of, like, if Meredith getting blamed for all of it, like all of last year, you better let me know who the fuck that account you know. I'm saying I got to know who's doing all this because Meredith getting blamed for it Well, and Meredith guys all the way back to last season, or a judge shot stuff like she's getting blamed. This accounts been around for a long time apparently.

Speaker 2: 1:25:04

Well, that's interesting, that that's interesting. I just don't know what she has to do with Right being the receiver of information. Look, we have Erica no panty wearing, jane, who is the receiver of Stolen goods via stolen money, and people care less about that. Then this text gate is crazy.

Speaker 1: 1:25:29

They were backing up the biggest fraud their best friend, the biggest fraud on the goddamn show, on the, in the whole entire Franchises, and they're backing Jen shop to their very end. And everybody knew she's a goddamn liar and she was guilty, yeah, and she went all the way to the goddamn a machine. She was ready to go to the court and literally plead not guilty till she literally got caught she. Yeah, they were still like, oh, jen Shaw, she's our friend, we're gonna back her till the end. We're not gonna believe all the stuff we hear. You didn't believe the United. You didn't believe this other district of New York, exactly, you didn't believe that. You're gonna believe that this friggin account is is Bond or what are you know?

Speaker 2: 1:26:11

saying yeah, a lot of this is just intellectually dishonest.

Speaker 1: 1:26:15

I said in bread Heather, this is some. That's why the con Heather in bread, because that's yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:26:20

That's an in bread thinking right there.

Speaker 1: 1:26:22

Yeah, you're backing up your friend, bestie, jen Shaw, and who gave you the black eye. Now, right again, I got to find out. I don't. I said I told them like I don't know who lied to Heather and told us we gave a about the black eye gate, because I seriously don't anymore, whatever since the, even after black eye, I tried to like Heather.

Speaker 2: 1:26:42

When we saw there on the real housewives ultimate girls trip, I was trying to like Heather. This season came out I was trying to like Heather, but now she's just turning into. The skinnier she gets, the more Heather she turns into. She's just turning into a mean girl. Pretty soon she's gonna wake up and have a jawbreaker in her friend's mouth. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1: 1:27:02

And you know what she was drinking from some up the sundown.

Speaker 2: 1:27:07

Yeah, now she's not drinking because you can't drink on ozimpic.

Speaker 1: 1:27:11

And who is she to tell Heather, whitney, whitney, whitney, thank God when he told her to shut the f up, but then she made Whitney apologize to her.

Speaker 2: 1:27:19

Yeah, and they act like they're offended by that language, when you just maligned. You maligned Mary Cosby's entire Reputation and your cousin tells you to STF you, and that's the harshest thing you've ever heard.

Speaker 1: 1:27:33

She make Jen Shaw apologize to her for everything she said about her. Like Jen Shaw is literally been like destroyed all these women and they fight it. They fought to be her best friends. At the end they thought about who's the better friend or Friendship and this girl destroyed them and they're literally like well, we don't believe it. It's so crazy. I'm like Heather, you are not, you're an in bread bitch because you're thinking some weird.

Speaker 1: 1:27:57

It doesn't make you know, Anything, monica, when you're bestie, you backed up till the end is done. She's still fucking you over. Still a thing Like Jen Shaw is still fucking you over and you're worried about poor little Monica not giving you three grand Bitch. I'll give you three grand, so you shut up. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 1:28:16

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:28:17

Jen shot those people lots of money and you're like literally made up Monica, poor little Monica, and Like you know and I'm sitting there like I'm actually questioning Monica now too, I was questioning it now I feel bad.

Speaker 2: 1:28:28

Because I'm like, yeah, well, that's what I mean, and the eighth housewife is not doing Monica, I'll do a ton of favors this season because they are leaving it so open-ended. They could have maybe flashed the text that it was true. I'm not sure you know, but I like Monica. She's a great addition. I'm not, you know. One thing that did make me question it for a split second was when she asked Lisa Barnaugh, baby wrinkles, to go with her to see her family that she hasn't seen. I know all the women on that trip. That's who you're gonna ask. Is the lady who just Was saying she would throw you off the freaking wagon?

Speaker 1: 1:29:08

Yeah, I know, and I kind of was like liked it. I liked it because I wanted her, because I just keep seeing Monica try and try. Yeah, I got so thrown off with with when she started telling her about the Angie stuff. I'm like, no, no, don't do that. Like, why are you doing that again? Because, like Monica, again I didn't want her to get in trouble for this because she brought the shit up about Angie's husband. You know, back in Salt Lake. Yeah, bring up the stuff she heard about Angie. And I'm like, no and no.

Speaker 2: 1:29:35

It would not have been hard For Monica to just act like she never heard what Meredith said, to act like she never got a text. She certainly didn't need it to be brought up on her birthday trip. I'm not sure why she's using the Tamra judge. I need to stir the pot, repeat everything that was ever mentioned to me, um formula for how she's interacting with this woman, I mean.

Speaker 1: 1:30:02

It could have went left. It could have went very badly for her doing that. Lisa could have done that. Yeah, like.

Speaker 2: 1:30:05

I feel I don't think it did her any Good to tell these ladies Like why tell Lisa and then tell Angie? If your point was that you were gonna tell Angie, why'd you tell me that first, except for to spread it among?

Speaker 1: 1:30:20

the group and at this point we know better than to say things on camera. Remember, like the whole thing about the task wives, like if you say it on camera Then it has to be dealt with.

Speaker 2: 1:30:30

So again, she knows, saying things on camera, yeah, are not good, because I never heard any of this stuff before right, and even when they did the flashback to when the day it supposedly happened, they don't have any audio of it. They only have a cut, a little footage of her walking in the store. They're walking down the street. They're not doing her any favors by not playing the audio of what happened that day, because we need, in order to tie it more to Meredith, you need Meredith's voice. We keep having, yeah, monica, who seems like a very sharp, yeah, sharp knife. She seems street savvy. She should know a setup from a mile away, especially after dealing with LD.

Speaker 2: 1:31:11

And it seems to kind of falter. I don't know if production is in her ear, telling her oh, this will be great, you go over here and say this. Oh, this will be great. You go over here and say this, now that I can see happening Because it doesn't seem like it's a great survival skill to be caught up in these Things, literally smack dab in the middle.

Speaker 1: 1:31:32

Yes, and again, like you said, I watching her feel so alone. At that moment, like you know, I was like man. That's a hard I had, that's a horrible feeling I would not want to do something to. Then, yes, like you said, stir the pot again and make you have to throw it all over again. Right, right Like if you're like oh my god, we're saying it again, angie's gonna realize oh my god, she's brought that up on camera again. Mm-hmm unnecessarily.

Speaker 2: 1:31:59

But isn't it cute that everybody wants to fuck Sean? But, angie, I even said I'd fuck Sean. I know who said they fuck him twice. Or Heather's about to be mad that, um, monica's hot girl is coming out and she said she would screw two husbands instead of just one. Like the rest of them, heather's used to being the only greedy one when it comes to gobbling dicks. I don't know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 1:32:27

When you asked her last time she had sex. I'm like really, heather.

Speaker 2: 1:32:30

Well, you know what?

Speaker 2: 1:32:31

and that was her playing us, because remember, a season or two ago, heather told us about how she grew up so strict and she made out with the guy and he was so the next time she saw him he was like we could, that can never happen again. And it kind of traumatized her and she was hoping that her daughters, like she, wanted to literally live vicariously Through her daughters, who she's encouraging them to have as many experiences as possible. She brought up her daughter's sex life to us, ah, ma'am, by you saying those words on tv. Of course somebody's done feel comfortable enough to say, oh well, how's the sex life going? I mean, you literally said you want her to have a lot of deem peen and you want to live vicariously through her.

Speaker 1: 1:33:19

I mean, I agree, I agree. I don't know why, heather, all of a sudden is the fucking like all of a sudden.

Speaker 2: 1:33:25

I think was that outfit in the confessional. It makes her look like that's horrible why.

Speaker 1: 1:33:29

What are you wearing, heather?

Speaker 2: 1:33:30

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: 1:33:32

Somebody. It's on um dany pelagrino. I watched what happens live. Um he's. Uh, he's real if he's talking.

Speaker 2: 1:33:39

Yeah, that outfit is scary. It looks like a version of aunt linda from the handmaid's tale, and she does it very well.

Speaker 1: 1:33:46

And she's trying to look like maybe like Madonna's bird, you know, like a virgin, I don't know. Poor set, is it? I don't know what you're wearing, but again, the confessionals are horrible for me. I'm having issues with every franchises confession. Karen, by the way, has got a new one in it, amazing.

Speaker 2: 1:34:07

Oh, I hope so because that freaking they put that not only did they give her a huge curly wig, but then they put it on sideways.

Speaker 1: 1:34:18

And I said big bird, again big, look like Refres. And I'm like Karen, she's gonna even agree with me. I think Karen will agree with me.

Speaker 2: 1:34:26

You can have to go back and go.

Speaker 1: 1:34:27

that was a bad one, that was not very bad.

Speaker 2: 1:34:30

That was her next one looks amazing. Oh, remember the meanie. Remember the meanie leaks um blonde bob fiasco in that confessional that year. Did she have bangs? Is that the one? Yeah?

Speaker 1: 1:34:41

the one with bangs.

Speaker 2: 1:34:42

It was horrible, not the bangs.

Speaker 1: 1:34:45

The bangs. I didn't even know what edges were. Until I watched Atlanta I was like, oh, oh, I see I learned a lot. Like, I learned a lot about, like, like everything I learned about. Because then I now I'm like watching, like I watch, like I look at a Karen and I'm like, well, karen's wig. And I go look, she looks good. I'm like Jesus christ.

Speaker 2: 1:35:04

What are you doing? I think a new rule I'll say it on your channel should be that if you're over 40, you got to retire any baby here. Lace fronts, just retire them, yeah, yeah, because I don't know a lot of 40 year old women that really have baby hairs to their eyebrows. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1: 1:35:21

Um, yeah, tricep, I said tricep says it too Like she doesn't wear, that I'm just saying like she doesn't have baby hairs there.

Speaker 2: 1:35:28

She has a hairline there. Yeah, true, okay Other people are making baby hairs come forward. Yes, I you know like that's just distracting.

Speaker 1: 1:35:36

I know it is distracting, I know it was. It was really distracting. I liked when I was watching um, I want to talk about Potomac. I'm, I'm Sierra, I'm gonna get the Potomac because it's like I can't stand Mia's hair. I'm either, but I think Mia's wig, mia's extensions are horrible. Mia's wig is me. It doesn't look good.

Speaker 2: 1:35:53

Mia looks horrible.

Speaker 1: 1:35:55

Yeah, maybe I'll go to get bag of shit right now, except for I don't know. Yeah, I can't even watch it because I maybe I'll watch a recap of this week, but I just changed Wednesday's the Salt Lake now.

Speaker 2: 1:36:07

Friday's the.

Speaker 1: 1:36:07

Beverly Hills and Monday Miami, until Okay okay.

Speaker 2: 1:36:12

Well, I'm glad I caught you today, because I thought I was gonna be in here Friday talking about Salt Lake.

Speaker 1: 1:36:16

I want to, but I love the Mary kill fuck, I love it.

Speaker 2: 1:36:19

I love that was fun, and I'm surprised that Lisa Barlow Brought up that game.

Speaker 1: 1:36:26

Yeah, see, that's the thing I like. This side of Lisa I like To be in front of on. I just did, even though, if it's even though the stuff that she said before, I feel like she actually likes Monica now.

Speaker 2: 1:36:38

Well, after seeing this, it does, I feel like, make her realize Monica wasn't lying about the tumultuous relationship with her mother.

Speaker 1: 1:36:48

Right, right, exactly Lisa. In that moment I think Lisa was like oh geez and I was glad that Lisa was there for her, because At that point Angie, I felt like maybe Angie should have went with her to the family To see her family, or like I don't know. I just thought that maybe she was closer. But I think that her asking Lisa to go was a good. I thought it was a good idea.

Speaker 2: 1:37:07

I was surprised Heather didn't get up because it was her and Heather's trip. Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1: 1:37:12

Heather just, hmm, heather's got to go. Like I don't know. Like Heather, I'm just I don't know, I don't know. There's a lot like I. There's a lot of things like about these franchises right now. Like I just love Miami, I just want to see the drama. If you look at how OC used to be Back in the day when Vicki was so, on and on and we had drama with all their families not with each other, well, a little bit with each other, but it was always about, like, what was going on in their families and stuff. And now it's a crap that we deal. It's awful. There's like the franchises. Oc is awful.

Speaker 2: 1:37:45

Yeah, I didn't even watch OC when tamra came back because it was so bad ever since novella left. I did not like how novella had to leave and then finding out that some of the things that she said that she had witnessed were true.

Speaker 1: 1:37:58

But then she got played crazy and and they're making all these women go out to dinner all the time. This because they're not now, at this point. Their families are nothing they don't want to film. They're tired. That's why they always that's right, krista, and they're fighting with each other. They're making each fights with each other and I'm like this is like and the restaurants don't want to see them anymore.

Speaker 2: 1:38:18

Did you know? That's why the um in marriage to medicine. The venue had to get changed at the last minute for that girl's wedding was because the original place decided they didn't want to deal with these housewives.

Speaker 1: 1:38:30

Oh my god, sweet tea, is it? What a sweet tea? Yeah, the sweet tea wedding exactly. Listen to like out here like every cap, and then married medicine will come on. So I'm like here and what's going on at too? Hey, what's up, what's good at AT. At, I would have placed um, put your somebody, I know I'll do it. I'll link all your, your stuff's permanently large, larger.

Speaker 2: 1:38:48

You, I love it, you rock Thank you, you guys smash all the krista's buttons, make sure you have the bill Um on to all so you get the notifications, because you guys know you to be tripping, so you have to put it to all to get.

Speaker 1: 1:39:01

Yes yeah, I gotta take down. Yeah, monday's episode, I gotta I. I'm trying to edit the last hour and a half out of it out, so oh, no, no, yeah, always splitting the things.

Speaker 2: 1:39:11

I'm gonna get off your live now because I know you're trying to keep it to our. Sorry, I didn't see you know I didn't get my notification and I still didn't get my notification, but I?

Speaker 1: 1:39:22

What are they doing to me? Oh my god, I probably should take something happened on Monday. Maybe they're they're punishing me for that or something, I don't know right, right every with the cyber punishment it's a great. Yes, I think quad did go, didn't she? She said she did go, or no.

Speaker 2: 1:39:36

Yeah, quad got to the trip. Um, I don't care what, but you know what? Okay, you guys, anybody who does follow marriage to medicine.

Speaker 1: 1:39:43

Who is?

Speaker 2: 1:39:43

very upset with dr Heavenly's treatment acquired at that dinner. Uh, she did a full on apology. She went on the twitters and said that she Finally because she hasn't been watching the episodes because she was there and she finally watched the episode and she did a public apology and was saying quiet, I just watched the episode. I'm so sorry, you did not deserve to get treated that way. I feel horrible. Hmm, yeah, so even though she was there and even though what she said was valid, I kind of feel like they put up dr Heavenly and.

Speaker 2: 1:40:18

I'm gonna have to talk to her about it, because this is just this. Isn't the dr Heavenly that I know, and I'm not used to her bowing down and like being in a position to be used. So first she got used by quad and then the other ladies used her to destroy quad. So I'm just like dang, dr Heavenly, I was pretty sure that you would have not put yourself in that position. Um, and when I say used by quad, she was saying that she hadn't heard from quad since the whole last season and she had reached out to quad a number of times. That's why, when she finally saw quad at the shower, she jumped up and was like, oh my god, you know, because she had, she had been calling to unanswered calls. So then Then she still didn't hear from quad after that night. Then Phaedra had the resurrection for her and at the resurrection her and Phaedra said that I'm gonna get you back in with the girls quad because they are not checking for you. Maybe, if you come, do this resurrection and you just take accountability and move on, then that's what this is gonna be about. But instead she went rogue at the resurrection, popped out and said you told them they were all the problem.

Speaker 2: 1:41:41

But she was back into zero accountability and in the meantime was telling production and you know how messy production is. They've been going back and telling the ladies and showing them, somehow, the things that quad has been saying about them when she was negotiating for their contract. She was saying things like I don't care for none of these women, I don't have a real relationship with them, I'm only here for a check. She was saying these things. She said why does Jackie get more money than me? I'm more popular than Jackie, these kinds of things. And it was getting back to everybody on the cast in the meantime she's not talking to them. But then she would show up and be like hi, I'm here because I care about you. But production told them that she said she didn't care about them. So it's just a whole lot of telephone in the back. And if the ladies would have really talked, if she would be any form of authentic and accountable, it would change her trajectory. However, she's so guarded because she can't trust these hoes.

Speaker 2: 1:42:45

Thank you, yeah, she literally can?

Speaker 1: 1:42:47

she knows the shows that they've been doing this for a long time, just like the other ones. Yeah, toya, it's Toya.

Speaker 2: 1:42:53

Bush Harris is the culprit. Okay, been mad at quad ever since she got to go on that couples trip, but wasn't a couple, remember? Wasn't that the same trip? She was throwing biscuits and Eugene.

Speaker 1: 1:43:06

You're asking me I'm just I don't watch. I just I don't watch. Yeah well, that's what.

Speaker 2: 1:43:10

I mean, listen, a lady that throws biscuits at her husband is mad that a lady got to come on the same trip that wasn't a couple, and ever since then she's been trying to turn everybody against quad. Simone, dr Pancakes goes willingly, but for Dr Heavenly to get caught up I was like dang, that's too bad, too bad. But we're gonna have to. A better day is coming, I'm sure.

Speaker 1: 1:43:34

Who was one on Washington Happens Live this week and they did. One of the girls was on there and they did. Do you regret it, Was it, Dr? Heavenly Dr.

Speaker 2: 1:43:42

Heavenly didn't regret anything, yeah, and I was like this is funny.

Speaker 2: 1:43:46

She didn't regret anything Like the clothes. This lady's just wild. Yeah, she didn't regret anything, but now she does because she sees how they edited it. Okay, I get it now, I get it. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, and like the way that it, because Dr Heavenly was like they didn't show you guys the fight that happened at the funeral. There was a fight at the resurrection, mm resurrection. Okay, yeah, because Quad came and popped out of a casket and there was a fight at that time they didn't show us?

Speaker 2: 1:44:15

they didn't show us any of that. And then there was another fight. They didn't show us any of that. They're just showing us it looks like Quad is trying and then getting shot down, but they didn't show us the fight, which is the reason she got shot down.

Speaker 1: 1:44:31

Seems like remember with Salt Lake, how they weren't showing us all of what happened with Quad. It's like, yeah, productions making up their own thing.

Speaker 2: 1:44:39

Yeah, the eighth housewife. I'm not sure why they're doing this plot. It's just so weird. If there's a fight to show, show it.

Speaker 1: 1:44:47

I'm still stuck on why she was in the coffin. I was trying to be respectful as far as the reception was.

Speaker 2: 1:44:52

I thought I was just not educated, and then you said it really was like no, it really was a coffin, because you know how Fager Parks has the funeral services. Yes, it's still Fager, fager. Yes, so she put she taught Quad into getting into a casket. No, push the casket. It had the ladies meet her at a church at midnight. She's so weird, yes. And then Quad comes down, pushed down by the pallbearers doing a special march and everything, because you know she's extra. They get to the front of the church, she goes up to the front and she's like I've gathered us all here today For what? They open the casket and Quad pops out. Why did they? Who did they think was gonna pop out? Who did they think was in it? God, they had no idea. Why would you go?

Speaker 1: 1:45:37

That's crazy, isn't that weird? It's weird. Fager's freaking me out with all her.

Speaker 2: 1:45:42

That is so bizarre, like you could have still done the same exact kind of thing, like a great resurrection would have been having her baptized again?

Speaker 1: 1:45:51

Do a trust fall or something? I don't know? Something like that yeah, yeah, let's go to a retreat or something.

Speaker 2: 1:45:56

But Fager's always advertising. I guess she needs to advertise.

Speaker 1: 1:46:00

She is, she needs it right, I know, does she still call her kid's president and Mr President?

Speaker 2: 1:46:06

Yes, yes I love it.

Speaker 1: 1:46:08

I love it. Yes, I love them. They're so cute. But I heard she's very like I don't know very, very fagery.

Speaker 2: 1:46:14

I love you. Yeah, very fagery, she's not doing it a lot.

Speaker 1: 1:46:17

Hey, if you can work the reality circuit, that's good for you. Like Craig says, craig's on three different shows Summerhouse, you know, southern Charm, and like man, look at Fager, she's on. Ultimately she was on her show with my girl, trip Ben.

Speaker 2: 1:46:30

Now she's on here, she's making a Well, fager is good TV and I like her a lot. I'm just like Fager. I like her messing everything. I mean, I wouldn't have her be my lawyer, or nothing, but no, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 1: 1:46:42

I feel like she'd be a good lawyer.

Speaker 2: 1:46:43

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know I don't believe her. I don't believe a lot of what she says, so I'm not.

Speaker 1: 1:46:51

She could be a housewife. She could just be doing it to be controversial housewife. I do feel like sometimes she doesn't need to try as hard as she does, cause she's amazing as it is.

Speaker 2: 1:46:59

I don't know that part, that part right there. Calm down, fager you're amazing. You're already amazing.

Speaker 1: 1:47:05

You're so educated amazing. You say you wanna do something and you do it. You wanna do this. You know you just want a funeral home, like everything she. So it's like I don't know. She's always trying to prove something. She's better than what she. I don't know what it is about her and it's like-.

Speaker 2: 1:47:19

And then she straight up lies on the show so she tells About her days or like about. Just like she told Dr Heavenly she's done with Quad after she went rogue at the resurrection, to the point where she's like I don't even wanna fly with her, dr Heavenly, I'm changing my flight. And then on the show they were like oh, fager, you didn't fly with Quad. She's like oh no, I thought my flight was at this time and the other time and playing off on TV, to the point where that's why Dr Heavenly was just like I'm done with the bullshit. You said this, you said this, you said this. I'm in the middle, you used me and, yeah, it was weird.

Speaker 1: 1:47:56

but now she's sorry, you're pretending, bobby.

Speaker 2: 1:47:58

Brown yeah, she defended Bobby Brown. He went to jail. Did he go to jail from her defending him or did he get off? I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:48:07

I think she said he went to jail. He said he went to jail. I mean listen, like what, fager, you're the boss, you're her boss. They asked Bobby Brown. I mean that's I don't know. I mean, like Apollo, is Apollo remarried?

Speaker 2: 1:48:21

Yes, he's remarried and his new wife is just waiting for somebody to bring her on a show. Really, yes, and so, oh my gosh, so that's what Dr Heavenly said. Dr Heavenly said that some of the women on the show cough cough toya, cough cough, sweet tea were thinking about allegedly bringing on Apollo's wife to an event, because Phaedra brought Quad to an event and it was so bad that Phaedra went to production and was like he better not ever come over here. I'm out, I don't wanna talk about Apollo. These women can't ask me about Apollo, and so they are not. We're not gonna hear nothing about that this whole season.

Speaker 1: 1:49:04

I mean I would listen. I love Fager, but I think that would be pretty funny. Why not? I guess because she's trying to, just completely because it's in her kid's father. It's gonna be in her life. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2: 1:49:16

He's in her life yeah well, I don't know that he's even like that.

Speaker 1: 1:49:19

You know, I don't know Is there who's her dude is? She broke up with her?

Speaker 2: 1:49:22

Well, okay, and that's the other thing that Quad went to production and told, because her and Fager were friends before the show and she knew that she was dating a doctor, but is not dating a doctor, and so the doctor that they showed had a smiley face over him because they couldn't show him because he didn't give his permission to have his image and likeness on nothing. And then Quad went back to production and was like well, you know, she doesn't even have, she not even dating medicine, she told.

Speaker 1: 1:49:54

Sorry the medicine, I'm so confused. That's even like weird For her to get a little bit of a reality show. She would have to have a cemented no well.

Speaker 2: 1:50:04

I feel like On anything, bravo a name is just a name.

Speaker 1: 1:50:09

I do have a lot of friends with those ladies, but she friends with those ladies outside of the show. The ex-wife, oh no, like with Fager, did she know the ladies will marry the defendant before she got on the show?

Speaker 2: 1:50:20

Yeah, well they had met. How it happened was, at the last, bravo con Phaedra. Dr Jackie and Heavenly were walking around and Dr Jackie heard Phaedra say she was dating a doctor and Dr Jackie's like oh well, then you need to come over here.

Speaker 2: 1:50:38

And she's like well that sounds nice and so that was the first time somebody said something about it. And then that had been not this bravo con, the last bravo con, and now since then, as it turns out, phaedra and Quad, specifically, were friends off of the show and talked a lot, so Quad feels like she is responsible for having Phaedra in this group of girls, but the conversation really happened two bravo cons ago.

Speaker 1: 1:51:12

And again she wanted them to go to doctor to write them, to burn her on the mar with medicine again. Oh, that's what I was gonna say. I feel like anything on.

Speaker 2: 1:51:20

Bravo, the name is just a name. So they say the real housewives at anywhere? How many housewives are in any franchise?

Speaker 3: 1:51:32

They have some housewives.

Speaker 2: 1:51:33

They have some girlfriends. They have some people that have never been married. They have some people that rent a man. You know what I'm saying. They have the people that are supposed to be courting and then they get married off. The show never show us, never bring their marriage certificate. So I feel like these are just names, so you can be. I feel like maybe the show could just be called medicine.

Speaker 1: 1:51:58

Medicine, not even like at this point, like now, they're just in our lives, so it's kind of good to bring. I wanted Phaedra to come back anyway, but I didn't think she would fit in at Atlanta again. So I mean I mean, yeah, I like having Phaedra, she's just enough mess.

Speaker 2: 1:52:16

but she needs to say Carlos King is right, she needs to come more with. Come with more than yeah, that's chow. She needs to come with more than that. She needs to finish a whole sentence without it being a lie. They something that really happened in her life and then we'll start warming up to her again. But it does seem like, really like she just literally came because I'm Phaedra Parks and I'm here, but she has not helped the ratings this quad is so eager to point out. The ratings have not gone up up with her on there.

Speaker 1: 1:52:50

Right, I mean again too, like trying to think she wasn't. She could have been on the Dubai one or something, wasn't she hanging with the oh?

Speaker 2: 1:52:58

yeah, yeah. Well, she was going to Africa a lot too. Didn't they just have a Real Housewives in some place out in Africa? She was trying to get to Africa a lot.

Speaker 1: 1:53:07

They really just wanted to bring her back. I mean I like they're on Ultimate Girls trip. I think that did a good, that did a service. I mean a service for some of the ladies that had the service, for others that were on that show, yeah. And then you know, like kind of Ro and Taylor, but like I thought that was kind of redeemed herself a little bit as a housewife and I guess yeah she was fun.

Speaker 2: 1:53:28

She felt like a girl's girl. She felt fun, yeah, and if?

Speaker 1: 1:53:31

everybody can get over the whole situation with candy, like I think if candy's over it, then we can be over it, If Porsche's over it, we can be. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 1:53:39

Well, I kind of don't feel like it takes all of that. I feel like we should have been over it as soon as candy made a dime off of the idea that Sager put out there it's over. Obviously, you're not hurt casting checks that I made for you. Lady, you know what I'm saying. It's weird.

Speaker 1: 1:53:56

I was shocked when Candy did that and even Hike was turning him at the show. Yeah, like that means you're over it. That means I did not damage you.

Speaker 2: 1:54:05

I did not damage you. I actually added to your bottom line, so I'm off the hook. Where's my mic? Somebody get me mic'd up so I can get back on the show. Yep.

Speaker 1: 1:54:16

I mean what Heaven Lane and Dr Clowder's saying. I'm with Dr Heaven Lane and Clowder's saying Earl Shrill, I mean, hey, like, go and get the rich men and like, but again she got herself on the show and we don't know if she's with anybody or yeah. She could probably find someone, I hope. I hope she's a lawyer already. She could do it if she wanted to.

Speaker 1: 1:54:36

You know, she could go be a doctor. She could do it like the Kim Kardashian did with the lawyer thing, like that little fast track, and then you know we just call it medicine. But I do like Phaedra, I should. I mean, everybody tells me to get into the show but I don't like, and it's like seven seasons or something. Right, I have to get really like. I have to start from the beginning. Oh my God, we lost actually. Yeah, can you guys hear me? It got really quiet all of a sudden. I think large. I love Sarge, but oh, it's been two hours. That's cool.

Speaker 2: 1:55:07

Sorry about that. I'm going to have to go. My 11-11 alarm is going off and every day I have my alarm set for 11-11 and I stop whatever I'm doing and for the whole minute of 11-11, I scream what I'm thankful for and grateful for and the goals that I'm going to be achieving. So I'm going to have to go in. Five, four, no.

Speaker 1: 1:55:27

I know See you guys later. See you later.

Speaker 2: 1:55:30

Love you, love you too, peace.

Speaker 1: 1:55:32

Peace Baba. Oh guys, I know it'll be 11 here but yeah, I love that. You guys know well into that stuff. I know I'm just saying like I just feel like Phadris first, smart, but again, hey, if she's on the show we'll see what happens. But I appreciate you guys being here. Two hours ago I was a good, I liked this good conversation and money grace. All of you guys, thank you. I see everyone that's also giving you guys hearts. I didn't want to interrupt the thing that I was giving you guys hearts. I want to show you love when you come up.

Speaker 1: 1:55:59

I love seeing that from saying like I love different perspectives on these women because, again, I don't always see things like that. We see things differently and our perception is valid. So it's good to have other perception and opinions because, again, we're not a cult and everybody that's watching you have differences of opinions you agree with, largely agree with me or whatever. It's cool. It's not like I'm sitting here going, oh, we're all gonna just we're all team this person and we're gonna be against that person. Like we constantly, we go through each thing and we talk about it and we like why do you feel that way? Why do you feel like I love that stuff. So, again, if I still wake up every morning and love doing this, I look forward to it all the time Monday. I apologize about that, like I didn't upload it on the who's 31 podcast side, but yeah, from now on I'm gonna block people like that and I think I'm gonna get somebody to mod too, because I like somebody to you know, in the comments section, because sometimes I don't like to miss comments and stuff like that. So, yeah, I have to start with season one. That's what everybody was saying, and I also wanted to do love and marriage, huntsville and I'm like it's two shows I really wanna start watching, but then you know what I did cancel cable. I do have time to watch them now. All right, guys. So appreciate everyone.

Speaker 1: 1:57:11

I see everybody watching everyone on Twitter. I forget to say that we're live on Twitter. Still, I forget about X Twitter. It does advertise over there, am I? So all my reels and stuff go there, but I don't. I think everybody the views on all the other platforms don't show up on YouTube, but my YouTube views are amazing. So I mean, I appreciate the re-pick flow and I can't believe you guys don't get notifications. That's bothering me so bad and you guys said you always have the notification with me and please hit the all because that's why people can't. I'm telling you, like my replicators are not getting notifications that are finding me afterwards, and I know I do. I mean, I send out a thing to just some because I can't send out all everyone, but I would love the fact you know to imagine if, like, all of my people got a notification. It would be amazing. I know they're missing. I like to take care of people, but still, you guys are amazing and it was so fun.

Speaker 1: 1:58:03

When I went into Zach's chat the other day I forgot that's how we all met. So I saw Muddy Grace in there. All of you guys were in Zach's chat and I was so excited I was like, oh my goodness, my crew, it's my Adam Stanley crew. I forgot that's how we met through Zach. Well, that's how I met everybody. So I love and appreciate all of you and I love and appreciate you guys so much. Like you don't even know. Like, especially, I saw what happened the other day, like I didn't have to say what I said, but when you guys were sticking out for me and stuff and I shouldn't have had to even put you guys in that position. But if you guys don't know what I'm talking about, I'm not even gonna say, but like I'm gonna take that part out.

Speaker 1: 1:58:35

I was really ignorant, I don't really, and I honestly I remembered who, right before that happened, who we were talking about, and so that kind of maybe realized who had done that, who made up that fake account, cause then the week before, the same person had made a comment. I didn't realize it was towards me until this week. So this week when I saw, you know, I realized and then I said, oh my God, I realized who that we were talking about. And yeah, a lot of you had already figured. They're like, oh my God, what if it's this person, that person? Yeah, I was too. Yeah, and the stuff was so not weird. It was kind of weird should they were saying and like there's other shit in my life that you could have said if you really knew me. But I feel, like the person we were talking about right before that and you guys kind of figured it out, it's really sad for me to think that.

Speaker 1: 1:59:26

You know, I did say something I shouldn't have said. So you know, I did say something about this person and I've been saying it for a while I've heard, but anyway, we're just gonna move on because I feel like he got really mad at that moment. But again, he didn't have to say what he said. No, because I didn't block him, because I was going to try to. I can't. My brother, you know, my brother literally is like a web designer. He could have really dug into it. There's TikTok hacks to figure it out. This person's super blocked like super super blocked it. They were from through, I could say, came through Facebook Messenger or Facebook Live or whatever. Because I'm live on there. I was thinking the same thing to well, that, yeah, so I definitely think it was either that person or somebody else and a person's platform that was on for a year and a half.

Speaker 1: 2:00:14

Guys remember that I did say something about him and I shouldn't have said it because I've said it before and I don't think he would like that. But it kind of the things that person was saying, the guy was saying, kind of seemed like the same stuff that was being said about that. So it kind of made me think like, yeah, I don't want to say anymore. It was just very hurtful, very upsetting. I would never do that to another content creator. If it was a content creator, I would never interrupt your live. I would never do that. I would have talked shit to you on your comment section. I don't know. I just wouldn't do that. No one is.

Speaker 1: 2:00:44

You're on a podcast and this is a podcast. I'm trying to be professional. I'm all over the place as it is. So it's like now to me to have to go through and find out where I can end the live at, add something in there, to apologize why it's cut off at the end and where I leave it. And then you guys hear me arguing with this person who's like talking shit. You know what I mean With Mike Teresa Jersey Temper. It's not a good idea for me to interact with. I don't even do it on social media. I don't go and I don't talk about.

Speaker 1: 2:01:12

Sometimes I'll leave my opinion on other content creators, on their threads and stuff, but I try not to, because I have this to talk about, my opinion and if I engage and argue with somebody, it's just doesn't sound good. Look for me. So for somebody to try to like and I believe it was another content creator, it's just fucked up. It's like really fucked up. I just can't believe the links that they will go to like screw up somebody's shit Because everybody talks shit.

Speaker 1: 2:01:37

So it's like even the shit I said you know I'm saying out of hurt, so didn't retaliate against me and make up stuff like it was just crazy. But yeah, thank you guys, I love you and you know that love you guys so much and you guys know how, like what I told you in DMs, how it made me feel. So it's like, yeah, and it was crazy Cause like I there's, it could have been worse. It could have said things that were really the true. The things they were saying weren't true, but it could have said things about me that were true, that could have the thing really knew me. That's what I'm saying. So obviously that person has no idea what's going on in my life and there's nothing to I'm, nothing's wrong here. It's my past you'd have to like fuck with me about.

Speaker 1: 2:02:13

And they're saying how my eyebrows were fucked up. It was crazy. All right, guys, let me go, cause I love you. Yeah, it's crazy because I kind of yeah, even like those people were like yeah, definitely, like I said, who do you guys think it is? Like? You know, I asked a lot of people who they thought it was and they're like, just watch back what you were talking about and see, and a lot of people had that same opinion, cause it was like one of two people. It was the fact that was another content creator. But I'm yeah, all right, guys. So I love you all two hours.

Speaker 1: 2:02:45

And again, if you're still listening on the who's Outta your Pocket side, I love all of you for doing that. You do have chapters. You can look at it. And if you don't want to hear like the personal stuff we talked about at the end, cause I want to do Mary kill F, but we'll wait till Friday and do it, and I want to do it with Housewives, I just do it. But that was fun for me. I liked watching that. I just did it with my friends on here. I'm like, okay, I don't think they saw it, but so much fun, me and my friends can do it and not get mad at each other. Their women should have just took it and laughed about it. And Heather, on the other hand, you are not the only single one, okay, so like, stop acting. Like you know, you still have your chassis built on. All right, guys, I love you. Goodbye. Sorry, I'm going to go now. Love you, thank you.