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Welcome Back to another exciting recap discussion of RHONJ E14 !
Amidst sharing our new soft spot for the charismatic Danielle from "The Real Housewives of New Jersey," we also peel back the layers of a spicy guest surprise that took my Instagram live by storm. Fasten your seatbelts as we navigate through TV drama, uncovering the dubious intentions of Louis and the Gorga family's questionable support for the LGBTQ+ community.
Can laughter gas lighten the weight of cosmetic surgery? We chew over Jennifer Aiden's approach and our own tattoo tales that somehow make pain pleasurable. Puzzling over the use of private eyes in friendship circles, we dissect the morality of it all within the reality TV spectacle. And just when you think the party decorum is standard fare, suspicions arise about planted guests and alliances at Jennifer's Shore House – never a dull moment with these Housewives.
Finally, as we wrap things up, the idea of a cast reshuffle is tossed around like a salad in need of fresh dressing. Could the "Real Housewives of New Jersey" need a shake-up to keep us coming back for more? And with a light-hearted invitation for you to hit us with your secret code words on Instagram, we express our heartfelt gratitude for your ears and eyes. It's been real, it's been fun, and now, as I dash off to my overtime shift, I leave you with a smile and a promise of more juicy tales next time around.
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Welcome Back to another exciting recap discussion of RHONJ E14 !
Amidst sharing our new soft spot for the charismatic Danielle from "The Real Housewives of New Jersey," we also peel back the layers of a spicy guest surprise that took my Instagram live by storm. Fasten your seatbelts as we navigate through TV drama, uncovering the dubious intentions of Louis and the Gorga family's questionable support for the LGBTQ+ community.
Can laughter gas lighten the weight of cosmetic surgery? We chew over Jennifer Aiden's approach and our own tattoo tales that somehow make pain pleasurable. Puzzling over the use of private eyes in friendship circles, we dissect the morality of it all within the reality TV spectacle. And just when you think the party decorum is standard fare, suspicions arise about planted guests and alliances at Jennifer's Shore House – never a dull moment with these Housewives.
Finally, as we wrap things up, the idea of a cast reshuffle is tossed around like a salad in need of fresh dressing. Could the "Real Housewives of New Jersey" need a shake-up to keep us coming back for more? And with a light-hearted invitation for you to hit us with your secret code words on Instagram, we express our heartfelt gratitude for your ears and eyes. It's been real, it's been fun, and now, as I dash off to my overtime shift, I leave you with a smile and a promise of more juicy tales next time around.
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Good morning.
Speaker 2:Hi, good morning.
Speaker 1:How are you?
Speaker 2:I'm fantastic I'm sitting outside because the sun's just shining on me and the birds are chirping and it just smells so fresh.
Speaker 1:What's the weather like there now In Salt Lake? Or you're in Salt Lake right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm in Salt Lake. It's starting to get like finally my type of weather Like we're finally in the 80s and it's sunny. To get like finally my type of weather, like we're finally in the eighties and it's sunny and beautiful.
Speaker 1:Awesome, that's how I know. Well, it actually rained all week here, which kind of like puts a damper on the Jersey shore when it rains, but I mean it's a dark cloud over here anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the sun's like blaring right on my face and it feels so nice.
Speaker 1:That's nice.
Speaker 2:I'm glad. How was your week? It was good, it was interesting. It started good and then I hit a hiccup. On Wednesday I think I have like super bad indigestion. I like woke up vomiting Like I was asleep and I woke up because I was throwing up in my sleep, but it was just like all bile and mucus and stuff, um. And then of course I googled all my symptoms and I diagnosed myself with something but, I, actually found something that makes sense, so I have my.
Speaker 2:I have an annual exam on Monday, so so I'm just going to ask my doctor about it, but it's not like a big deal.
Speaker 1:Do I need to be worried?
Speaker 2:No, it's just. Apparently you can have indigestion. That's so bad. It just makes you like constantly clear your throat or cough or sound like you have allergies, which I do have allergies, and I do have asthma, so everything is just like more intense, but it's fine.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh. Well, I'm glad that we're back to get to talk about the real housewives of New Jersey.
Speaker 2:Yes, how was your week?
Speaker 1:It was okay, it was good. I mean, you know, I started out like I don't do any recordings till like Wednesday. It was like full speed ahead and guess who joined my live live? Not joined it, but I saw him pop into the instagram live west. Who? Oh really yeah, I was like oh my gosh, and I got excited and I was like I didn't, he didn't comment or anything, but that was cool, it made me excited.
Speaker 1:I was like oh look that's fun yeah, and we were talking about jersey anyway, so how many times did you watch the episode?
Speaker 2:I watched it the morning after it premiered and then I watched it again last night because I kind of forgot everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too, but it was boring I know you know what is starting to happen. Same thing that's happening with like vump. We already kind of understand, we already know what's going to happen or what's going on and even if it's just seems like it's kind of not honest to watch, it's hard to watch it and be honest and recap it. And I'm not saying that boring is bad. We're not saying boring is bad guys, but we also don't want like complete toxicity either. So, like right now, people that aren't people that don't really pay attention to social media are watching it and they're thinking oh look, teresa said nice things about John Fuda. She said he's a great husband. You know what I mean. Like it's just getting very like tangled and like I don't know, like this is probably like my favorite favorite like time of the week to actually talk about it, because we don't really get into like how bad it is on social media, cause I don't pay attention to it.
Speaker 2:I know, I just watched the show.
Speaker 1:I know and I'm getting like, I'm getting into it, like when I go live, I just let it all out. So it's like my purge before I see you or talk to you. I get it, I get that and I'm getting my head chopped off again. Of course, I can't, I can't win, but I mean, so this is episode two, but it's episode three for us, right? Yes, this is episode two, but it's episode three for us, right? Yes, but, guys, hi everybody. By the way, in case you don't know who we are, if you're listening to our separate podcast, I'm reality with Krista Marie, but you're on a who's starting on podcast on my side and thank you for any. I had downloads or anything. Guys, please five-star review me and also pop over to Dallin Thorpe, to Salty Housewives. Listen to me, salty. What did I say? You know what? I'll let you talk to your people for a minute.
Speaker 2:Salty Salty Housewives podcast.
Speaker 1:And we're also on Instagram under our podcast names and you can follow us all week in between our recordings. So this is another brand new recording for housewives. Like we said for episode three, which I thought, like look, I like watching them all get together. I just really sad to me that they can't just all sit in a group at the jersey store because that's like a nut. That was a real nice restaurant that she had needs party at, danielle, and I'm actually starting to really like her. I just remember I asked you what you thought about her.
Speaker 2:I like.
Speaker 1:Danielle a lot. Is that a real bird in the background? Yeah, there's birds. That's so crazy. You sounded like you just took a thing and chirped it up to the. That was cool. But so so last week I was like, how did you? I asked you how you thought about the thing with the money gun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm really worried. I'm worried for her putting her daughter in Hollywood I don't want to say Hollywood, but into that world.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm not.
Speaker 1:No, do you don't feel like that? Do you feel like she wants to even do that?
Speaker 2:Are you kidding? Did you see that girl during the headshot photo shoot Come?
Speaker 1:on. We wanted a big Mac.
Speaker 2:I want a big Mac. And it's seven, 30 in the morning.
Speaker 1:I mean that doesn't sound good. I mean okay. So I feel she is right, though, Like she did have the party she did make the last year about herself, but I feel like she also makes this this Hollywood kid thing about herself. I don't know, Dan, I think Danielle wants this more than her daughter. I just feel like it's also a very bad time to be in Hollywood. Put your daughter in Hollywood. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I, I kind of feel like, regardless of when it happens, it'll be a bad time, depending on who the people are. At least she's admitting like hey, are you shocked? This is what I want to do Because, like, okay, you're admitting that you are the stage mom, yeah, great, but her daughter seems very excited. I hope so. It doesn't seem like when Teresa was pushing Gia into it when she was little and Gia had no interest that's right, I forgot about.
Speaker 1:I always forget about that.
Speaker 2:Gia was into gymnastics, that was it. But anything else her mom tried to push her into, it was like oh Teresa, stop.
Speaker 1:I mean all right, but so she's talking about the party now I, I know they have to have these parties, but like there are these parties and like she, it's for for Nate's health, for and I guess it's been six years since he's had that situation which I didn't even know, which I was like oh, and that just makes me feel more real, like seeing her actually talk about stuff like that. It makes me like her more.
Speaker 2:Well, it's funny because, like, that's another reason these shows are so engaging, because you get the silly drama. But then every now and then you get a real situation like this because, like, even I connected on this one, because it took me back to when I was in high school and my dad had an emergency brain tumor removal that we had no idea he had and I was like a sophomore in high school when that happened.
Speaker 2:It's like, oh, okay, cool. So she shared that story and it just kind of flashes back and you're like, oh, I can relate to this. Like I can relate to your fear, your worry and now your excitement and your just gratitude to having him there. I loved, I loved all of this.
Speaker 1:Me too. I was like, cause my sister also, when she was 27, she had the aneurysm as well and had it, had it coiled, and like at one point she spent 27 days in ICU on a flat board getting like a coil thing, yeah, and she was 20 and she does the same like gets it every year, gets the checkup every year now, but yeah, like I was like wow, and I just remember like we were cleaning the bathroom and she just started to throw up and I thought it was because it was the smell or something yeah and she no, I felt something pop in my head and they said if she was asleep she would pass, that she would die like yeah, and I just got the chills.
Speaker 1:But I mean she's okay now and, thank god, your dad's okay, right oh, yeah, yeah yeah, but yeah, like and like. That is, you're right, the silly drama. And she's even saying she's like I just want everybody to get along and I get it no but yes for later on, when we're recapping.
Speaker 2:Let's's remember this moment, let's remember the party she's having, let's remember how important it is for her to say let's get along. And let's remember how almost everybody respects that Okay. Let's just remember that Okay.
Speaker 1:Now what was next? It was the dinner, right. We went over to. Um no, we were at Teresa's house right. One of the I was either with Teresa we're talking about her dad with your sobriety, with Mr.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like I keep saying he has a crazy family because I only really heard about his mom. But seeing, see, this is the stuff that I don't want to think about when I'm watching these scenes, with talking about real stuff, like his dad's sobriety, how he went through a lot with his dad. I'm talking about Louie. You know, mr Ruel is celebrating at your sobriety, like I get it. My dad, I got sober with my dad and he actually passed his coin down to me. You know what I mean. So it's like, yeah, like it was so cool, like it was a good time of our lives and our lives and it was like it's definitely something to celebrate. That is something awesome to celebrate. Nate's life is something awesome to celebrate. But again, you know, even going away with, like Antonia going away to dinner, but let me just, you know watching I know guys aren't they're not seeing us my face right now but if you could see my face, I make the, I make the louis face. He just makes this face.
Speaker 2:That's like he looks like donald duck I well, it's so funny you say that because I was noticing his face in this scene and I I started when he like focuses he, he like he pinches his face together and I'm like it's kind of adorable and silly, but it's also so awkward I'm like I was making it all week.
Speaker 1:People are dying. I said, guys, he just gets. Oh, he's just like, his lips come out and it's like and I know they all got new teeth like so, joe gorg, it looks funny this year first off, veneers.
Speaker 2:Veneers look terrible on everybody and if you have them, I'm sorry you got them, but if it made you feel better great I just I honestly I don't know if willie I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't know what he's doing with his face. I can't decide if it's he's he's jawline or he's he's a focusing where I don't know he's, he's.
Speaker 2:what is it what he? No, I was gonna say he's mewingling, he's not mewling.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know, but Teresa, I don't know why she has to keep reminding him and reminding everybody about everything that's going on. We know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't but.
Speaker 1:Well, like okay. So if you hear her say to you right, if you hear her saying you don't know what's going on, you hear her say oh, margaret Josephs, I can't talk about it, but you'll see how fucked up she really is.
Speaker 2:And I'm fine with that, because I've never liked Margaret.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing is, you've been saying this for two fucking years, teresa. You're telling us this year we're going to find out, joey is such a scumbag.
Speaker 2:And you'll see, you'll see, you'll see, you'll see. And it's like how long we gotta wait, like what is this news? What did margaret do? Well, here's the funny thing because, like I understand, you're up in arms over the stuff and everything you know. Blah, blah, blah I'm just confused and I get I get teresa's like oh, everyone's gonna find out. And in my brain I'm like, but I've never liked these people. I've always thought they were scum. I don't need to see anything, let's just move on.
Speaker 1:That's the thing I wish she would have just said in the very beginning. I hate all of you.
Speaker 1:That's it. You didn't have to go to the lengths to prove you hate everyone, but I'm thoroughly convinced that Louis is in love with Vanessa. I am convinced that all these little smoothies he's making, he's obsessed with Vanessa. I am convinced that all these little smoothies he's making he's obsessed with Vanessa because the lawsuit with Margaret has to do with Vanessa. I'm just going to spoil it for everybody because they probably know anyway. It's literally because Margaret spoke to Vanessa. Now we know Vanessa is the runaway bride of Louis, who he was about to marry in January 2020.
Speaker 1:He was with Teresa five months later. He didn't leave in a seven s 11 left him. He's still in love. He was. I don't.
Speaker 1:Whatever his version of love is, I'm not saying he's a bit, I'm just saying some people don't have the capacity to really truly love somebody. They're just a narcissist, doesn't have that. It's not his fault. He was born that way. So he loves. He loves people the best way. He knows how. I'm'm just going to have to give him that and I'm convinced that he might think he loves Teresa, but he was still in love with Vanessa. It would be weird if he wasn't in that year, that year that he met Teresa. That would be weird if he wasn't Okay. And he sends a fake patient after her, a stalker, in 2022, after he marries Teresa. So then I'm still convinced he's in love with Vanessa. Now he's also he's suing her again. He's got her in an insult and it's like let her go, man, let her go. We moved to and I'm convinced.
Speaker 1:When he said Teresa's like he's in Miami on a work trip, I said he's with Alexia. Alexia's listen, listen. The grift is up. Teresa's out. Alexia still has a job. Get your ass to fucking Miami. The grift is up. I'm sorry, teresa, but get done effed up. And whether he's involved or not, he's the one who's grifting you. He can leave, even if your marriage is legal or not legal, allegedly, he can just get up and go. Alexia's single. And if he's in miami tree. So what is he doing? What's he doing? Where's why? Where's he? Why does he have a job in miami, in la, and what's he doing? Does anybody do you know?
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't believe any of the things you believe, but I find it entertaining how riled up you get over it, especially I just I'm being honest, I'm just speaking my opinion and my facts, because I just don't understand you know, it's funny yeah we were talking about the weather and I was talking about how, like, I'm in the sunshine and the birds are chirping and you've got like a rain cloud.
Speaker 2:we're like mimicking our weather right now. I said that there's a dark cloud everywhere. You are the rain and I am the sun.
Speaker 1:You could be my sun, because I said this is my best part, because you should see me live. I have no excuse for myself. I could play this Teresa clip, but I won't. I'll just stop here. You know what. I'll play it for you guys. Just listen. Let's just, before we go any further, let's just hear what Teresa says about this thing. This is her Teresa's delusional receipt. Yeah, hold on, I say Teresa's delusional receipt. Yeah, hold on, I say Teresa's delusional receipts about Margaret, margaret, margaret, joseph's. Anyway, I won't play. Anyway, so it's basically, I don't want to be, not, you know, I will just move on. Let's move on to the Dvorak dinner. That was Antonio.
Speaker 2:We've said Margaret's name enough. I'm over it. That was.
Speaker 1:Antonio's. We've said Margaret's name. Enough, I'm over it. Yeah, I could just, and I'll have to talk about it, you'll see. You'll see Family, family, family, all right. Moving on to the family Gorgas, did you think that Joey's crying was?
Speaker 2:I. This whole thing was so forced and phony and garbage I tuned out the first time and then when I watched it again with my mom and saw how just annoyed and cringed out she was over it, I felt even better with myself. Here's the other thing too yeah, tell us about.
Speaker 1:Tell us about this dinner. You can go on.
Speaker 2:Let me take a breather speaking, speaking as a gay individual and a member of, like the lgbtq plus community, okay, and again, also only speaking for myself as well. Okay, like that's great. That's great that those two are close to joey, that's great that they love that he's officiating, he's his wedding, blah, blah, blah. I that's great, cool. I'm happy for them. But I don't see Joey Gorga as like some big proponent of, like the gay community or someone I think of as like a guy who's really with it, with our interests and our needs and our like like invested.
Speaker 2:What? What's this thing about needing to make him just appear like the savior? But not only that, you know, it really pissed me off. Teresa and Louie were talking about Margaret. They were only talking about Margaret the very first chance they got to. They made it about family. They made it about how he only has the one family, which, in retrospect, is technically talking about Teresa, and it's like, jesus christ, let it go. You've moved on. You've wanted to move on. Why can't you move on? Drop it also. It's your daughter's birthday. Move on also. Making your daughter's birthday about you and your husband? Get real. Yeah, I'm I just. I really felt for antony and I was like no wonder you want to just be with your friends, because I'm annoyed for you because of the way both them, melissa and joey, were both acting, the whole thing ridiculous, because everything has to be about the two of them okay, they they need the attention, not the daughter on her birthday them.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, great like my question is like what are they supposed to do? Like you know what I mean, like everything they do. Now, whether they talk about everything they talk about, what are they supposed?
Speaker 2:to do? Is that a serious? Question is that a serious question? Is that?
Speaker 1:a serious question hey.
Speaker 2:Antonia, it's your birthday. Are you so excited to go to college? What are your plans? What are you looking forward to? Oh my gosh, remember when you did this. Can they not talk about their daughter? It's real. Housewives talked about Nick and his health. We just had a moment where Louie and Teresa talked about sobriety. All they can do is talk about Teresa and the fact we miss family, and then, oh, joey loves the gays Really.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, I forget that whole scene. Yeah, I didn't forget the whole scene, but I was just. I was just remembering the very the beginning, when Melissa was crying. Oh, I remember the day you were born. They both needed joey and melissa, both needed to be slapped at that table do you think I had a little bit of feeling that like they were a little twisted, like a little drunk drunk by that time. You know what I mean they both sounded a little.
Speaker 1:They're always drunk it was weird and like look, I mean everybody who smokes weed. We saw the white weed pens coming out, this episode, which I thought was hilarious, because I'm constantly. I was like teresa, you go. But I just I mean I feel every now, every scene, like I, you know, I'm not, I don't even want to say team, I just feel. So I feel very bad for joey, I feel very heartbroken for him and I may disagree, but I mean I just feel like no matter what he does, he's gonna like, everything's gonna be. Oh, you're just doing this because your sister's watching. He's just very affected by what's going on. He has more his, the loss of his sister, basically like their relationship's over listen they both know it turn those cameras off and it'd be a whole different story.
Speaker 2:You can't fool me, because there's a camera in his face.
Speaker 1:He is so full of crap anyway yeah, but so are the other two, though you know what I mean. Like if we just if we just like we took all the rest of them. Like you know, I I don't think the food is a full of shit, I don't think nate and the food is are the two worst people in that show and they're ruining.
Speaker 2:They're ruining this for me to be honest they're the reason I am so sick of this season, especially her dumb husband why though we'll? Get, we'll get to it okay, well, all right there's something subtle that I don't think a lot of people will have picked up on, but there's some things I pick up on, mostly because of how I stick up for my mom and my sister and he's really he's.
Speaker 1:He's like more scum to me than joey yeah that says something I know well, let's get to it because we will. I'm waiting, I'm waiting okay, no, no, we can't, we can't like, because I said after that I'm wearing yeah, like we're. I mean all right. Well, all right, so we can go pimple butt when the pimple butt.
Speaker 2:That was hilarious. I could have actually watched an hour long Episode of them just getting that done and talking about whatever.
Speaker 1:Teresa's ass is nice, doesn't she have a nice body?
Speaker 2:I was like Teresa. I was so shocked.
Speaker 1:Me too. I remember season one. I watched she was walking. It was like me too, I knew like. I remember season one, I watched she was walking like. But we were about it was like a um, a scene of her and dina walking away and I was like I was so jealous of her ass and like a small little cute butt and I was like that's what? And she was, for she got her boobies done boobies. And I was like and she got her boobies done. I was like, oh my god, she's got a nice body. And then I forgot her boobies and I was like and then I was like I would be fucking laying there naked with robert. I would be laying there. I was like theresa, I was and like I'm not, I was, just I was.
Speaker 2:I could have watched an hour of it too but it was just you know what I okay, I know we just started this, but I like not knowing what's happening and what's coming up. I like how the producers are kind of doing this, because they're showing how Danielle, jennifer and Teresa are hanging out Like they're showing their dynamic. They're showing what they're doing. They're showing what they're there to do. They're showing what they're doing. They're showing what they're there to do. And then, when they cue to margaret playing pickleball with, uh, rachel and melissa, they're showing what they're there to do. And it's, it's so interesting to me to see the contrast of it because, like sure, I hear everybody's arguments, I understand it, but it's another pivotal moment as to why I'm sick of rachel too, because theresa says to danielle what she says, which I kind of I laughed at because I know how theresa is, but she also seemed kind about it where she's like look, be friends with whoever, I don't care, god bless you, that's your own, that's your own circus, have fun.
Speaker 2:Whereas my monkeys whereas rachel and melissa and margaret again, all they're doing, all they do in every scene. This episode is basically talking about theresa and it's like, okay, this is getting so old. Yeah, it's getting like, I think, especially for me with melissa, because it's like you keep saying and you said in your confessional which is why I call bullshit on the first episode, I'm already being proven right. I don't want to talk about Teresa, bitch, that's all you're doing. That's all you're doing. Like Melissa again, move on. You claim this is what you wanted. You should be happy. Then why do you? Why do you care so much? But I just I loved the contrast of it, because Danielle, jennifer, teresa, they literally were just having fun. They're having fun, they're talking about the party. Uh, it shocked me when Jennifer was like I can't get that done without the laughing gas. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, I missed that. I missed that. God, I didn't. I missed that. I missed that.
Speaker 2:I didn't hear that part she's like I can't do that without laughing gas. Even the ladies who did that looked at her like what she's like yeah I don't think so.
Speaker 1:Okay, she didn't ever do it oh my god, yeah, I mean see, I've had like needles in my face. I had like this thing done, like before I got botox and hurt like a motherfucker. I would have to probably it's I got Botox and it hurt like a motherfucker. It's probably the same thing. It's like getting a tattoo I get it.
Speaker 2:I love that feeling. I love getting my blood drawn. You really, I don't know Something about it. It feels good.
Speaker 1:Do you have tattoos? You have tattoos right.
Speaker 2:I have 32 of them.
Speaker 1:That's what I thought. That makes sense.
Speaker 2:I have a couple.
Speaker 1:I know, like honestly, like I know your fans don't know what you look like, but I think you're pretty hot. I think you're pretty hot.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh.
Speaker 1:No, you are. I was like oh, I like, no, I literally, literally like I saw your podcast one day and I was like, oh my god, and I was just starting to like get mine started again and I was like I really listened, I really liked you. I was like oh, I like him a lot and um, yeah, and here we are but I mean listen. So like you gotta remember, though, like margaret, jennifer rachel are coming off of the double-sided dildo argument and that you got your, your husband's a drug dealer argument which can I?
Speaker 2:I said this to my mom too, and we both kind of laughed about it. Yeah, um, I know that Danielle and Rachel are kind of the same age, but Danielle's a little bit older.
Speaker 1:Is she yeah?
Speaker 2:she is. I did say to my mom, though. I said it's funny that Margaret and Melissa want to keep hanging out with the girl who was born in 1991. So they like the gossiping teenager. Okay, I'm like this checks out.
Speaker 1:Cool, like. So they like the gossiping teenager. Okay, I'm like this checks out, cool. I mean I find margaret to be like I used to call her marge jr, because when she calls her mom marge senior, it's so odd to me. So then I just start calling her marge jr, like I don't know. I like I don't like the whole jen fessler part of this. I don't like the Jen Fessler being thrown in this because she's the Messler, because you know damn well that she did not think that they called John a drug dealer. Now she knew well that it was. They meant before, right?
Speaker 1:So what for her to say one minute to Margaret? I thought I'm not going to talk to him. If you're not, I won't talk to them. If you're, I thought I'm not going to talk to them. If you're not, I won't talk to them. If you're not, I'm not going to talk to them. You know what I mean. Like that envelope was proof of what Louie did. Now I'm going to give Teresa this. She may have been lied to by Louie, so swearing on your four daughters, swearing on your four daughters' lives, that you didn't do this. I hope to holy hell. I hope that your parents, I hope to all the gods in the world, theresa, that you did not know and he completely lied to you about this I'm gonna ask you a genuine question yes because I feel like if you don't give me the honest answer, I'm gonna know it go ahead.
Speaker 2:If your best friend was a private investigator, okay, one of your best friends is a private investigator and you've now become part of this friend group who is part of a reality tv show that's on like that, worldwide, international scale yeah you mean to tell me if you didn't have the opportunity to get information on every one of them, just to get like a heads up on everybody, you'd say no, I can't. You'd you'd say no.
Speaker 1:Um, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Let me, let me really answer this. I wouldn't at first. I wouldn't at first because he's married into this family. He's married into this group of somebody that already knows this group of people. One of them is Dolores, right, who's been with Teresa since she's grown up. That's one person, right. And then you have her brother, right, so that's another Melissa, and her brother, number two, you don't investigate, okay. Then you have the katanias. So like I gotta look at the group of people that I'm with that I've also known. I'm married to the person that has known these people her entire life. The food is no, the and nate and no, but the other ones are basically family now to me too. So, okay, like getting my, my, my, my husband's best friends, you know, I mean because we're together, I would. I, my husband, should never allow me to do that but this isn't just.
Speaker 2:This isn't just a typical situation where you're not on a, you're not on a tv show and there's not like all this crap going on. So you need to tell me your life all of a sudden is entirely different. You're, one of your best friends is a PI. They are able to get this information for you. You're really going to be like, oh no, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1:I think it's weird. I've been saying this since. I thought it was fucking weird and I wish he would tell me why he did it, because this and I said this before he didn't have any reason. Nobody was being and then was doing anything to him. Everybody was accepting him with open arms. He tried to already do a business with one person and I mean he's already. He went and thought that he made everybody. You know, he thought everybody was uncool before. They were cool like you made it, so like we can't be cool with you now. And that's why I'm saying I wouldn't do that, because I think it's odd that he did it.
Speaker 1:And the thing is, nobody's lying about their past. Frank's admitted what he's done. He's lost his light. Like you know what I mean. Everybody on that cast has done something wrong. They've all openly admitted all of their like legal shit. You know already. It's already out there, because they've been on reality TV for 13 years.
Speaker 1:He didn't have to do that and he didn't have to tell everybody. That's another thing. You don't got to say it and then lie. You say it and then you take it back, and then now we don't know. Now we know Now. We know again. It's true. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's the way he goes about everything. Like maybe I would have done it eventually if I had a reason. There was no reason for this and he just made it fucked up because he started saying things and doing things theresa too that were like oh, bodiedle, it's like what the fuck are you doing? Like we're supposed to fucking be cool and now you're like fucked it all up, like and then you want to turn and say, oh no, no, you're cool now. We're cool now. I just know you. I used to be a drunk dealer, but why just say it then? Why are you, having fucking deedled them, look up everything like and then I also wouldn't have a, I wouldn't stalk my ex either, with no deedled them.
Speaker 1:You know and see, that's the thing that gets me mad. Like he didn't have to do any of this and if he did, he didn't have to tell everybody. Like what are you trying to do? Are you trying to bully people and then to find out that she's also doing it behind everybody's back? It's like, what are we doing? Do we even have a show now? Because now the show is ruined, but not for the viewers that are watching and listening to us in real time. I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just looking at my crystal ball and just, I've been screaming for three years Something's wrong, something's not right, something's making something toxic. I don't know where it's coming from, how it's happening, but I swear it's Louie or Teresa. And because it's, but just see, I've been calling her Teresa Von Teese. She is Teresa Von Teese.
Speaker 2:Here's. Here's my other funny thing. Yes, the just hearing, hearing these arguments.
Speaker 1:I wish I could just stick the pickleball. I wish I could just stick the fucking pickleball and fucking, like you know, weed test. It'd be great, but we can't, it's not it's's not it's not just you, but like one minute.
Speaker 2:You like louie and you don't like theresa one minute you like theresa, you don't like louie one minute, you don't? Like both of them. One minute. You think you're. It's like no, no, no I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1:I'm just being honest like I can. Two things can be true. Like I can like them for certain things, but I can also dislike the deeper things that they've done. Like I can, two things can be true. Like I can like them for certain things, but I can also dislike the deeper things that they've done. Like I can admit that there's parts of them that, like, I really admire, like I admire their loyalty, but the loyalty to the wrong people. You know I'm saying I admire loyalty but it's to the wrong person, you know, or the wrong thing I admire. Like you know, I marry. I admire a love bubble, but not when it's toxic. You know what I'm saying. Like two things can be true.
Speaker 1:I actually loved Teresa. I loved her as a person. I just am very disappointed in her. Like I'm disappointed in her as a. You know, I'm trying to just stick to like watching the show and like to just, you know, trying to see what the viewers see. But unfortunately they make social media very. It's just crazy. They made social media part of the show because they wanted it that way.
Speaker 2:You keep that movement between I do have to say, as somebody who's not paid attention to the social media and only watched the show, I think you failed.
Speaker 1:No way.
Speaker 2:I know you got sucked into the social media.
Speaker 1:Of it all, you failed because I know, because it just because I, I didn't want to, and then my dummy has decided five minutes, check twitter, five minutes to see it just, and I got so and I was like because that actually then it. You know, because it's like literally it's Salt Lake, you understand, I know, you understand, I know you get this Because we didn't want that to be a part of Salt Lake season either, but unfortunately it made the entire season a shit. We were so invested in everything that was going on and then we got fucked in the ass at the end, with no loop. It made the whole season irrelevant. Nothing was real. I did not want that, for Jersey was real and that's what I did. I did not want that for Jersey, but unfortunately that's what's going to happen to you guys.
Speaker 2:I'm actually glad you brought this up because I I I couldn't peg what it was, but I finally figured it out. So the reason why it bothered me, it bothers, okay, the reason why the fans bother me so much. With new jersey versus salt lake, I finally know what the difference is. Okay, I love people getting up in arms about salt lake because to me, like it is dramatic and it's wild and that was ridiculous what they did, yeah, but this is a group of women who have no attachment to each other.
Speaker 2:They basically are just castmates who are friends, whereas in new jersey, yeah these are people watching a show with women who are messing with an actual family dynamic, and to see fans get up in arms over that makes it even more repulsive. So for me, watching that and seeing that kind of toxicity, I'm like y'all are batshit, this isn't that enjoyable. You just watch the show and like agree or disagree, but like the way some of these people get about it, it's like no, this isn't that enjoyable.
Speaker 2:You just watch the show and like agree or disagree, but like the way some of these people get about it, it's like no, this isn't fun you know why, though it's not our fault.
Speaker 1:you know why it's time. We were trying to just watch it and and have our opinions, like me, you know, if I'm doing an episode about it, or like if I'm in the comment section with everybody else or the various, they are the ones that attacked us. We were just trying to have opinions and, like, talk about it honestly, like how you and I do. We respectfully disagree and we're still friends and it's all fine, and I'm not biting your head off. You're not biting my head off, right, and we have our respective opinions, but we couldn't do that anymore because you're getting attacked, like really attacked.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I get that because, like that also happens. That's what happens with the salt lake women. I mean, lisa and heather still have their troll accounts. A lot of them have troll accounts. A lot of them do the same thing where they pay the fans. That's not like a new jersey exclusive thing. That's a housewife thing. That's not just exclusive to new jersey see, I didn't know that's anywhere else.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it's, it's a it's a huge.
Speaker 2:It's a huge housewife thing, like it's a huge thing where they have fake accounts.
Speaker 1:They troll people they get fans to troll people then why is my monica fired then? Why is she fired then? Why only her?
Speaker 2:why do you think she's so confused about it and everyone else is so? Confused about it too, yes, exactly, it's not anyway but then again they've also fired sheree three times and brought her back and just fired her again. So who knows?
Speaker 1:that's true. Bravo, doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. We should be hr. Yeah, literally the showrunners are like the. The showrunners are the eighth housewife and we're the ex-husbands and ex-wives I should never be hr I know I don't. I know, You're really cleaning house.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh.
Speaker 1:But see, it's not fair to have to have you got to drag Fuda and Rachel into this cast of people. That's broken already.
Speaker 2:So okay.
Speaker 1:So go ahead, you can go ahead.
Speaker 2:Where were we at on the recap?
Speaker 1:I think we were leaving. I think we're done.
Speaker 2:I don't think there's anything to talk about with Pickleball anymore. Pickleball's done.
Speaker 1:Pickleball was stupid. Yeah, I want to get to when they're arriving at Jennifer Aiden's Shore House.
Speaker 2:Oh, the pizza they were eating looked delicious.
Speaker 1:I know I told you about that Shore House right.
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:So that shore house she bought, I think last year or the summer before. It's right near the boardwalk. Okay, you know, you watched the Jersey Shore, right, I did. Okay, the smush room is okay. Imagine buying a smush house with a bunch of smush rooms in it and then keeping the same bedding and the same mattresses and, oh hi, everybody mushrooms in it. And then keeping the same bedding and the same mattresses and, oh hi, everybody. And like I get guys, I kept all the furniture. And that's not unusual to buy a shore house and keep some of the furniture in it, because it kind of just goes with the aesthetic, yeah, but you throw out the mattresses in the bedding.
Speaker 1:When you have 17 000 bedrooms at home, you have plenty of sheets and mattresses you could bring to your shore house. Jennifer aiden, you're I mean, you're grossing me the fuck out. You, you admitted that, you let, that you kept all the sheets and I just laughed. When louis and theresa came up I was like, oh, let them sleep on it. You know what I mean. But she's it just. But she's got the typical shore house that I have. Like I remember, like you know, like I've always run it there, that's what ours look like, like it's got the aesthetic, it's right, you can hear the boardwalk, you can hear you have the pizza, and that is the Jersey shore. That's what I want you to experience, because when you go to Melissa's, it's the rich people part, you know. It's like on the Bay, where you don't feel like you're at the Jersey shore anymore.
Speaker 2:You're every time, every time they show Melissa and them at the Jersey shore I'm like this is pretentious and snooty and stuck up and dumb.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't want this experience. It's like it's like mcmansions down the shore and I, I like, I do like jennifer's dress because she bought the typical jersey shore shore house, where you can see the difference when you see jersey shore shore house first one and then the ones that are in now you can see moving on up. You know what I'm saying. So it's like, but then jen and jenny didn't buy the one. I just left because I don't like her and I think that she's.
Speaker 1:She's dirty like danielle you're dirty and then danielle, I mean delores, welcome back scumbag. That's all I keep thinking. It's like oh god, we're gonna get to like. So all right, let's get to the party. What is your thoughts on this? Well, so before, okay before the party here's here's what.
Speaker 2:This is what completely turned me off from rachel and john, and they just can't to me.
Speaker 2:They can't redeem themselves yeah when jen fessler showed up and and Rachel was basically, without saying it, giving her an ultimatum like you're either friends with her or you're friends with me. It's not going to. Like she basically said that, which is so junior high and stupid. Like no one should say that to anybody. I don't care. If you're going to be friends with someone, that's great. Just know that I won't be around them. Or if I see them, I'm not. Like that's how adults behave. Like I'll be cordial but I won't engage, uh, and then so that's rachel's moment.
Speaker 2:And then, what really pissed me off, danielle and nate show up. Danielle's talking about the party. First of all, the fact john still can't shut up about teresa before danielle gets there. I, I just I wanted to mute it. And then danielle shows up and she says like, hey, I know there's tension, I know there's stress, I know there's this and that, but this is really special I don't want. Then, stupid john. Well, what if? What if someone pushes back? What am I? Hey, dumbass? Respect the woman who hosts is hosting this party and understand that she's asking a very simple request of you to be out, since they're so hung up on it. Be an actual man and keep your shit in line yeah that's it.
Speaker 2:You know how hard that is to do. It's not hard yeah, I understand but he proves at the party he can't do that, even though he doesn't like cause a scene. I was gonna say what's it so I didn't notice it so much the first time, but when I watched it the second time with my mom, yeah it.
Speaker 2:It kind of bothered me how the women at the party for a while it was fine, yeah, they briefly started talking about the Teresa of, at all briefly, Um, the weird chick that was there with like and that yeah she was interesting.
Speaker 1:I think she was um. There's a plant to talk about it. I think she was planted there to bring it up.
Speaker 2:I don't know. No, I, I didn't get that vibe. Um, I don't know, I didn't get that vibe. So Teresa and Louie show up and Delora shows up and Jen shows up. All they, literally all they did was show up. First of all, if all you're doing is showing up and it's the other people that have a problem, immediately you're not the problem. All you did was show up. Yeah, if you have a problem with someone showing up and all you're going to do is show it on your face, and then mostly Melissa, you're going to show that you're annoyed that someone says hi to them. Yeah, you do know, people can interact with other people you don't like. Right, like that's how the world works. Yeah, people you don't like are gonna have people like them and they're gonna talk to them. So it's like I I find it so hard for me just watching the show, taking any sort of having any sort of sympathy for people like that, when it's like all this person did was show up yeah and teresa didn't come at anybody, didn't do anything, didn't start anything.
Speaker 2:there wasn't a problem. And then when her and jen go to talk still not a. And she even brings up the thing with Jen. And usually when Teresa brings something up, she's heated and she's calm about it. She was fine about it. And then when Jen said she didn't say that, I thought oh no, this isn't going to be good. And then Jen said she said I'm like, okay, she still remained calm, everything's fine.
Speaker 2:But even when they just go to have a private conversation, not one other person there can mind their business. Just mind your business. You know why there's a problem? Because you want there to be a problem and you want to keep it going. How about you just let someone exist and do their thing and then, guess what, maybe they won't keep coming after you because for some reason you have a problem if they just show up in the same space you're in. That's where I just have no sympathy for any of these women, cause it's like you want to keep this going and I don't care if the other party is also doing stuff. It's the most simple of things. You don't have to sit there and make faces if someone says hi to them or gossip and talk about them and keep looking at everything they're doing. That shows you are obsessed and it's not normal. That's not normal.
Speaker 1:I know it's hard to understand because I guess I can't keep. I mean, I can't, I can't keep saying it enough. It's because there's shit that they know that they have to keep there, that they can't even bring up anymore. It's like they have all this underlying shit that they know that's going to happen. I get that. I get that. The thing is, though, oh man, still, you know, and Teresa wants to act. Teresa has no feelings, so when things happen, she can just let it go and forget that and act like everything's fine. She's got that ability, but they actually have real emotions and a heart and real feelings, so, like when they're hurt, they can't just hold it in. That's the thing you, it does look like. Teresa is like oh yeah, she's fine because she doesn't have any feelings and her emotions. She's a narcissist and she doesn't care. She could just let things go. And melissa?
Speaker 1:and margaret are narcissists big time and joey no, they're all this all happens because they have and the food is they all have feelings especially the food is that's the sad part is they didn't even do anything.
Speaker 1:Like they didn't ask for them, their, their past to be looked into or their stuff to be brought up, or like all they did was show up to the hat, to the show and like try to film. And all of a sudden you have these people looking at all of your information and bringing it up on camera so I find it, I find it so funny.
Speaker 2:the people that have the power to just end something or let something die, don't that? That's what gets? That's what's killing me they. They try to just let it die and it doesn't die. And like jen jen says theresa plays dirty and if you hit low, she hits lower. These people know this, anyone who watches the show know this. But it's like, for some reason, people just don't understand you need to just let something die, just let something end, kind of like Melissa acting like she's so fine that their relationship with Teresa's over Great, why do you keep talking?
Speaker 1:about it. Yeah, she's hurt, they're hurt.
Speaker 2:No, she's not 're hurt. No, she's not, they're not hurt. They all they're playing their best game to either stay on the show or get someone off.
Speaker 1:That's all they're doing, and everyone falls for it so easily they tried to put out a narrative that joey's little joey was not joe's son. Her, his own sister is trying to bring up this rumor that, like that, joe's case not hit like. First of all, gina was born first, so that doesn't make any sense, it doesn't even track, because she was with bulldog before joey and then with joey and then had gino and then joe. So, teresa, your own, your own nephew, you want his fam, his own nephew, your own nephew, joey's son, to hear that you are saying that his son's not a gorg, he's not a gorga, and your parents even said so. And then you want to pretend. Then you think that his son's not a Gorg, he's not a Gorgon, and your parents even said so. And then you want to pretend and then you think that his mom and Joe are going to act like fucking.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean, that they look so bad right now, like they did the whole season of the wedding, because nobody understands, like in real life, what this woman is being is doing to them behind the scenes, and you got these producers going. You have to act like everything's okay, okay, okay, fine. They can only act so calm for so long. You got to remember too. Unfortunately this is Jersey and there's something up with the order. We just don't know how to fucking shut the fuck up. We don't know how to just be calm. I can't even do it myself if I try.
Speaker 2:And I'll say it again If you're really that miserable, and that whatever, you don't have to renew your contract for the show. You don't have to keep filming, but they all choose to so like but why should all of them be punished for two people's actions?
Speaker 1:you know there's eight people there or say we'll even say 16, because they have husbands and wives. Why should 17, 14 people be punished because two people don't know how to act right and do the right? And you know, just have a normal show. She could have just said I hate all of you and leave me alone. She could have just did that, theresa she, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like she could have just said fuck all these people and she's well, I mean for the same reason, like why do all these women who have nothing to do with this family keep interjecting themselves into the family?
Speaker 1:that's the other big issue because they don't have a choice. Really, I mean they do. I mean I guess they could not. I mean they could just not be friends with people. I don't know, I don't have the answers anymore. I just think that the answer is not what anybody wants to hear.
Speaker 2:Teresa and Jennifer have to fucking go. Well, here's the point. Heather has to go. Here's my thing. Okay and people will be shocked probably if I say this you can keep Teresa and Melissa at the same time. You could.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The problem is you have so many other women that are focused on only them that they don't know how to live their own lives or like present their own drama or create their own stories. So they have to lean on that and then somehow attach themselves to it. Think about like Real Housewives of OC, think of even Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There are so many different levels of drama going on at the same time. That's what makes those so engaging and so fun. That's why people are so bored of New Jersey, because it's just these women interjecting themselves somewhere they don't belong, when really they should be giving us something else to see, I think, instead of feeding into like what they think is the big drama, like danielle's drama that she has with her family, right, oh yeah, every time she talks about it, I forget about everything else because I'm like oh, that's intense, but then everyone I want when I
Speaker 1:say everyone, yeah, I mean like I want to see her mom. Yeah, hear from her dad.
Speaker 2:I want to hear from her brother and then it's like they go back to melissa, rachel and margaret and they just talk about. It's like, if you're just going to sit there and talk about theresa, get off the show for a couple seasons and figure out what you want to do, or like, get over it, like yeah do, what other franchises do and just come on. That's why I'm like you know what you're doing, but they're also getting sued, like they're also been brought in lawsuits with these people.
Speaker 1:It's fucking ridiculous. Speaking of oc, I agree, because shannon bedore that I also blame Bravo Bravo fucking perpetuates it too, because they have Shannon. Shannon Bedore should not have been on the fucking OC this season with Jesus Juggs and ex-boyfriend John.
Speaker 2:I'm so thrilled to watch it though. I'm so thrilled.
Speaker 1:I thought about this this morning. I was like, would I I rather be any other way? Probably not like I, just I would rather like I get very like I just want monica back. See, I would be happy if monica would come back on oc or salt lake and they would clear all that up. I would be happy, I would watch it, I'd be okay for the drama, but I just feel it's unfair. If it was on oc, I'm I guess I could say I'm there for it, because I agree, shannon could have walked away. She's 60 fucking years old. She decided to walk into the toxic Bravo room that they've created for her, unfortunately with no loyalty. Shannon's been on that show every single year and they know her mental health and her sobriety is at stake and whether she decides on it, she's a grown woman. You should have enough money by now that you can give up a season and not give them what they want a storyline from you. But unfortunately and I feel very upset, I feel very I'm scared to watch it because I'm afraid to see her crumble. But I don't know. I just I feel like you're right.
Speaker 1:Like these people, like at this point, these shows, these OGs, it's toxic for them. They don't like each other after all these years and, like you either have to get rid of them all and reboot the whole show and just put them on an ultimate girl trip and force them to go on vacation together Like they did with, like New York. You know they can't do this anymore because with the OGs on these shows that's becoming now, they've done it. Now they've started a thing with Salt Lake. They started a creative environment with people that are going to hate each other because they've been on the show now four or five years, four or five seasons. Look what happens with New York. Look what happens with New Jersey. Look what's going to happen with OC. The OGs fuck it up because by now they don't like each other anymore. It's been years and years of trying to get back and even if they're doing it for the TV show, they're doing it for us. But it's also real if they're hurt. You know what I mean. Like you can never get OC the way it used to be.
Speaker 1:I missed old days of OC. God, it's not even the same feeling anymore. Like I can remember what it was like to watch old days of OC in the beginning, and now it's like it's not work. It's just like, oh god, like I gotta watch jennifer and fucking melissa. I know this is gonna happen and I'm like I don't want to do this anymore, but then again I do. But I wish I want to recap it like when I was watching salt lake this season and I thought they actually were getting along. I really thought it was all real, like you know, wanting to be friends with monica and, like you know, let's take her to the. You know wherever they went bermuda, bahamas, whatever. When I found out that it was going to be all fucked in the end, I was so fucking up.
Speaker 1:Remember I didn't sleep for three days, yeah, it was like fucking me up, like it's not fair, like I felt so, like I felt so gaslighted and I'm like I'm not doing this with jersey. Fuck this shit.
Speaker 2:Like no, um, I just remembered. I just remembered something I forgot about this party Danielle threw for Nick. Another thing that really bothered me about John and Joey. Again, I didn't notice this until I watched it the second time. John and Joey at the party were very distant, cut off, reserved. They were in their own bubble with people I didn't even really recognize. Um, and then when polly showed up, um, polly went over with, uh, jen fessler's husband oh, yeah, yeah um and louie and they were like flat out asking Daniel's husband like what happened?
Speaker 2:How are you? What went on? How was it? They were the only people they were showing, who were actually showing interest in what the party was about and what the party was for, While John and Joey were so concerned about Teresa's. Here Are the women going to talk? Is anyone going to talk? Focus on the freaking party. Focus on the, the only people focusing on it, which should be you. If you are these people who are so like compassionate and sympathetic and empathetic. You're so focused on just the Teresa of everything that you seem to forget why you're there. So it was like, oh, interesting.
Speaker 1:I can feel the tension watching it there too. I can't imagine how they feel. I just wish that they didn't have to. I don't know. I guess when they walk in the room everybody gets really tense. I guess Because you never know who. I don't know like they. They could literally listen. You're right, they could fucking literally all just say hello to each other, be cordial and worry about the party like they can. That's what adults do, because you've seen marge and them all say hi to each other.
Speaker 1:It doesn't have to be the way. It is like I know all the shit that's going on outside, but they do it with vanderpump. They, they actually make vanderpump. All act like, act like you fucking like each other at least five minutes, like you can fight for a little bit, but it's not this intense, oh my god. All you see is these little confessionals and you don't see anything going on in the party at all, because they're focused on jennifer. You know I swear on my four daughters like I'm not gonna just keep going like it's she's lying, she's swearing or she's lying. But anyway, they could focus more on the party and make them actually have a good time, like they do with vanderpump until the very end. But I mean, like you know, I thought that too. Like I'm like, are we gonna talk about like the native at all? Where's his family, house, his sister, if you or you know what I mean. Like we don't have any time to go into these other people's lives because the other stuff like overshadows it.
Speaker 2:And I fucking blame bravo too, like bravo could just shut it the fuck down, honestly you know what I think would have been an interesting choice for them to do with this season after everything that happened at the reunion yeah um, I think it would have been interesting to and I'm not saying get rid of these people forever, but just because of, like, the intensity of everything and the fact that everything had boiled up for so long and they just got married, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, keep theresa and melissa full-time. Just because new jersey is supposed to be about family, so obviously that would have to stick.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Keep Dolores full time and keep Danielle full time, and then what you do is either take Margaret and Rachel out completely or just make them friends of, but I really think not putting Jen Fessler in a full-time role this season might have not been the best idea. I think keeping the women basically the same wasn't a good move, right, because now that I'm kind of seeing going into this, I can kind of understand maybe why they took Monica out of Salt Lake, just because it would have been too much after three seasons of Jen Shaw, and then that I could see how maybe that might have gotten exhausting for everybody yeah break it up a little and then bring it back that's a good idea they should have broken this up and they didn't break this up and now it's just getting to a point where the people who are so invested are sick and tired of it.
Speaker 2:And then like someone like me who's just like, yeah, this is entertaining to watch but at the same time, like this, is boring. There's a reason that the real housewives of new jersey is my least favorite franchise to watch.
Speaker 1:It's just so repetitive yeah, it's like copy and paste. Yeah, that's what they do every season copy and paste, basically. Yeah, he just focused too much on the melissa, andrew, and it's like you're not the first person that said that they should give them a break.
Speaker 2:They should split them up, at least for one filming season and the reason I say specifically Margaret and Rachel, and it's not just because I don't like them. What I think would have helped with that. Margaret does the same thing. It's even part of her tagline. Uh, whatever she says about taking, all she does is heckle. All she does is get in the way. All she does is like interject. We need like we need like one good season of her not doing that to see what would actually happen. I don't feel like rachel and john did enough their first season to like justify the full-time housewife thing a second season. But whatever, they brought him back anyway. Yeah, that's why I say she should have maybe been a friend of and jen fessler got the full-time. I just what they did, what they did. They they screwed themselves from the beginning I'd like to like jen fessler.
Speaker 1:Her, her life is so interesting. Her mom has twin. I want to meet. What are they? Midi and bitty or whatever, though they are fucking entertaining as all hell. I want to know more. Like I'm saying, like you said, when you get into like danielle's life, you kind of forget about the other shit danielle was the most interesting part of that whole episode, everything yeah, I want to know, yeah, I want to hear from all her family, or, like you know, that they don't mind being on the show, at least her dad and her mom.
Speaker 1:I want to see the twins, jen Fessler's mom and the twin sister.
Speaker 2:I know we forgot to even say this. She talks about how she cut her dad off, but the dad still talks to her husband and her daughters because she won't ruin that.
Speaker 1:Why weren't they at the party, though? That's what was weird. She daughter's, because she won't ruin that.
Speaker 2:But it's like why weren't they at the? Party, though that's what was weird she didn't invite them on there like well she didn't invite him because she even said with nate they were saying it was going to be friends only no one's no one's family oh, okay, okay yeah, they. They did that on purpose, so it was just only their friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah and I like her dad. He cried and all like because, listen, I understand Danielle completely. My brothers and I make fun of me. I've actually had to block them too. They think I'm a joke, they think this is all a joke and I am always at odds with that and because of my own peace and I don't want to be made fun of, I block them right. But my dad always takes their side. So I don't go to family functions and I get very upset with my fucking dad because he's always taking their side and he just thinks it too. So I get where Danielle is coming from and I get it.
Speaker 1:And I understand why she's like. People are like, oh, that's so stupid to cut her dad off Cause you know he's picking one side over the other. Well, no, she's truly. It's her own. It hurts her to see that, to see him not stick up for her. She has to cut him off. Not because she wants to cut her dad off, because it hurts her so much to see him not take her side or at least look like I'm your.
Speaker 1:My daughter is hurt and you know, maybe say at least say like, look, I understand. Or like tell him like, look, dick, like why would you send it? You know what what's, you know what I mean? We can't even find out what's so bad. And if it's only because he blocked her, I, I, I. But I understand why she's upset, but why is the brother so upset about it? You made fun of her. You made her feel like that, Like she couldn't, you know, do things without feeling stupid, or like you make him fun of her. Or it hurts for safe to see your own family not support you when what you're trying to do online, when you've been a football player and a wrestler and you've had your family support your whole life, they went to every single baseball game. Football game for that brother. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the other one's trying to do something cool that she finds fun and interesting. Like I am. Same thing with me. My brother's a wrestler, you know. Like every motherfucking football game, still the nephews, every game. But do you think they show up for Danielle or do you think they showed from now and that hurts? So, yeah, you want to cut them off from this shit because you don't want to feel stupid and stuff right. Like you know, we can't even get into that part of it because we got to move on to the other assholes. You know I love the assholes, but I'm just saying like there's, and then even with the, with uh, food, even if we don't like, you know, we don't like food. There's a lot of interesting shit that go on with, like you know, food, a tile, and like his, what he does for a living, and like I don't know, maybe not, it's kind of boring, but like, but like, but still I want to see eddie and biddy or whatever the ants are.
Speaker 2:Fessler's mom and how she. Yeah, it seems weird to cast so many different women, but only focus on two of them right, it's like, but it's like beverly hills.
Speaker 1:Get fucking rid of kyle please. I don't care anymore I don't want to.
Speaker 2:I've wanted Kyle gone for so long.
Speaker 1:It's like we can't. Even the Fox Force Five is dismantled and now maybe we can focus on other people, or I think Beverly Hills needs a whole reboot anyway. But think about it Kyle and Kim and Kathy could have their own show. All three of them have reality shows, right. They just need a new show period and have all three families. That would be because all three shows, like they, take too much time up on our Beverly Hills that we can never get to other people, even though we had a whole thing with Erica and also Erica, poor Erica. Look at what we did to Tom Girardi. His life has been splattered all over the place. That's literally the whole reason I started doing this. And then we have Kyle's husband, who committed fraud too, and nobody said the goddamn word. He gets a reality show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, isn't that?
Speaker 1:fucked up. No, we haven't heard a hell or high water about his fraud. It's funny.
Speaker 2:I forget who I said this to, but I was saying it would be interesting if they reboot Beverly Hills similarly to how they did Atlanta. Keep, get rid of everyone at Beverlyly hills except for erica, sutton and garcelle. Yes, keep them and reshape the whole show around those three.
Speaker 1:You're absolutely that's what I would say too that'd be great that would be great.
Speaker 2:You know who we forgot about, jackie she didn't show up, though I know she's in the preview.
Speaker 1:I know I always forget about. We actually forgot a little bit about dolores too. Did they even show dolores, no dolores wasn't there much.
Speaker 2:She basically just showed up at the party and like talked to polly about real estate for a minute, but nothing.
Speaker 1:It was nothing worthwhile no, and there's like a rumor that they're not doing well, but I don't know if I believe that part or not. Yet I don't believe it.
Speaker 2:I don't believe it. I don't know. Next week looks boring. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:But then it was so hard, because so much Vanderpump was boring too, that reunion sucked the first part anyway.
Speaker 2:Did it.
Speaker 1:Do you watch them?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I mean I know everything going on.
Speaker 2:I just I hate every single person on that show. It's just so insufferable to me. I also hate Lisa Vanderpump, so I didn't want to watch anything of hers.
Speaker 1:How did I not know this?
Speaker 2:I hate Lisa Vanderpump.
Speaker 1:So you don't watch. You never watched Vanderpump at all. No oh my God, my soul is hurting right now.
Speaker 2:I tried and it was just so cringy, like literally I don't like any of them. But I'm on Ariana's side with all this, but I don't even like her. I don't like any of them none of them.
Speaker 1:I'm disappointed in Lala and me and Jax. I'm blocked by Jax but Lala, she's from Utah. No one should be surprised she's stupid, lala from Utah, that's right, lala. Yeah, she's a cunt. Anyway, she just she chose the money too. She sold her soul to Bravo too.
Speaker 2:She chose they all. Everybody on these shows chose the money. Let's like can people? Can people on the show stop saying that? I know right, you're all there for the money?
Speaker 1:So shut up, I know, I know. Anyway, it doesn't feel like it's only episode two and I'm so exhausted.
Speaker 2:I'm not exhausted, I'm just. I'm already bored like I'm already ready for it.
Speaker 1:I'm already excited for dubai everybody keeps saying that I gotta have to get into it I loved the first season.
Speaker 2:It was just. It was just like old-fashioned, like rich luxury, silly, nonsensical, petty drama. It it felt good it just.
Speaker 1:And I heard atlanta's not starting till august and that's literally besides dubai. They just started filming, that's all we have here's.
Speaker 2:here's what I think is gonna happen. Okay, yeah, so dubai comes out in june, okay, and then new york, I believe is Dubai, comes out in June, okay, and then New York, I believe, is going to come out in July.
Speaker 1:Oh, it is.
Speaker 2:Or OC sorry.
Speaker 1:OC will be July. Oh, I thought somebody lied to me. Okay, I'm not okay.
Speaker 2:New York, I think will be August, September will obviously be Salt Lake oh.
Speaker 1:And then, like Jersey's over.
Speaker 2:And then there's going to be that likes all the others, then I think atlanta will be at the start of next year, so like january, because they just barely started filming atlanta. I didn't know that. Yeah, they barely started, like yesterday or the day before so who do we have on atlanta, sure sherry?
Speaker 2:no, no, they fired sherry, so we have. I'll tell you, I don't, I don't know how I feel about it. There's a lot of new people um, one of the people they hire they got has 4 000 followers on instagram. So figure that out. Oh, that's it. Yeah, so far full time is porsche ken.
Speaker 1:Kenya.
Speaker 2:They brought back Drew. What yeah, dirty wig Drew, oh God, ready for this? Shamia is a full-time housewife. Shamia.
Speaker 1:Shamia, the best friend Shamia.
Speaker 2:Do you remember from a? Few mid-seasons Uh-huh Shamia.
Speaker 1:Ex-best friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, wow, cynthia comes back as a friend. Oh, like, cynthia's always kind of bored me, especially recently, so yay.
Speaker 1:And then she can't hold a hand.
Speaker 2:The new ladies are Angela Oakley, brittany Eadie and Kelly Farrell. What I don't know any of them people.
Speaker 1:That's your cast. Is it good, are they?
Speaker 2:good, I'm not thrilled. I mean the fact that, like the three main people are portia, kenya and drew that's and that's I mean basically portia's carrying the show, so margo's gone yep. Candy said no because obviously she was too busy. They fired marlo.
Speaker 1:They fired charay marlo, why is?
Speaker 2:it called Marlo. They should have just kept it how it was. There was so much drama. This is the problem. Atlanta is the only one they should have kept exactly how it was because of how their drama finished. It was intense, but it wasn't intense enough where no one was actually on no speaking terms. They were cordial, but Atlanta no speaking terms. They were cordial, but atlanta always knows how to be cordial.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I kind of forgot how it ended. Actually, I kind of forgot how it ended. I'm I, I don't feel like portia. I feel like portia was a hail mary when they lost candy you should revisit it yeah, but I will.
Speaker 2:I will because so yeah, so disappointing anyway. Well, hopefully next week is more exciting than it looks, because I'm already not thrilled I know, I'm kind of already I'm like I forget what happens already.
Speaker 1:So okay, I'm sorry guys, I'm not really angry, I'm just intense, I'm just what kind of sometimes jersey, okay remember you are the rain and I am the sun you, I know, and you had the birds chirping in the background.
Speaker 2:I'm over here like fuck this shit birds, dogs, all right, we love you all yes, thank you so much for joining us again yeah, please come back.
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Speaker 2:All right. Well, I picked up an overtime shift, so I should go get ready for work.
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