017: Holistic Manifestation // with Jehna Esmail

Ever wondered how to turn your deepest desires into reality? That's exactly what we tackle with Jenna Esmail, our awesome guest who's not only a Reiki Master and energy healer, but also a manifestation and spiritual life coach. Jenna's upbringing, steeped in varied religious practices, has given her a unique lens through which she views the art of co-creation with the Universe aka God aka dolphins. She generously shares a three-step method that aims to change the way we attract our heart's wishes.

Taking the leap from intention to action can often feel daunting, but this episode breaks down manifestation into achievable steps. Beyond the theory, real-life examples illustrate the incredible shifts that can happen when we align our energy and take intentional strides toward our goals. Whether you're looking to manifest a penny or a million dollars, the importance of belief and utilizing every resource to navigate life's hurdles becomes crystal clear.

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Transcript

Lauren: 0:06

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Frank: 0:30

I got one useless nostril right now. Okay.

Lauren: 0:34

Yep, you doing okay? No, I'm so sorry, me too. This is my bread and butter. My voice is my my voice is my bread, and butter, Is it?

Frank: 0:41

This is my bread and butter. If you see this, you're gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna be like this is my bread and butter. This is my bread and butter.

Lauren: 0:51

If you say bread and butter one more time.

Frank: 0:54

I' m pretty hungry.

Lauren: 0:55

I'm walking out. I want some bread and we have a great episode today, and first we have a couple of updates to share. Frank, take it away about the rebrand.

Frank: 1:09

Oh yeah, we are changing our logo, so if you next time you sign into whatever podcast platform you use, if there's a new image it's still us.

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Yeah.

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Lauren: 2:04

I don't know who Catherine is, but you know who you are, Catherine. Some Catherine's are spelled with a K. Also fun little fact I'm going to be a Reiki master in about a week and a half guys Real, real excited about that.

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Lauren's going to attune me, and it might be the beginning of the rest of my life.

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Keep it coming. I liked Boneson McGraw too. Okay, so thank you. Thank you, supporters. We can't do this without your help.

Frank: 3:19

Thank you very much.

Lauren: 3:20

Okay, so let's talk about today's episode. We have an amazing guest. Her name is Jenna Ismail. She is a Reiki Master, energy Healer, guided meditation facilitator, holistic manifestation and spiritual life coach. And not only that, but she is just a bright light and we loved our conversation with her.

Frank: 3:43

Hell of a nice gal.

Lauren: 3:44

She gave some really great insights on manifesting using the three-step approach, and Frank and I kind of immediately started implementing them.

Frank: 3:52

So we did.

Lauren: 3:54

Like we walked into the other room and were like, let's talk manifesting.

Frank: 3:57

Yeah, it's kind of been the focus of the week. So, I took a lot of notes from what Jenna had to say and I kind of recommend you do too.

Lauren: 4:04

So take it away listeners.

Frank: 4:08

Nope, we take it away. Nope they come for the ride, so you press play and then it takes it away.

Lauren: 4:13

Good luck.

Frank: 4:14

Jesus.

Lauren: 4:17

Enjoy, and I hope you all manifest everything you need to do your heart's desire. Jenna, thank you so much for joining us today. Can you just tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started in the work that you're doing now?

Jehna: 4:38

Yeah, absolutely so. Like I said, I'm, jenna, super excited to be here. I've been raised pretty spiritual, so I grew up on the ideas of manifestation and co-creating our realities and my parents and my grandparents and my uncle were really early believers of the secret and Wayne Dyer and Abraham Hicks these like really big names in the manifestation world and so, in addition to all of that being raised super spiritual even though I had a religion that I was raised on and still love and practice, my entire family was really open to other things too. They said it's all the same destination, just the path is different. So, even though we were raised going to a mosque equivalent type of thing, we also went to Hindu temples and we also went to church and we listened to these theological speaking from all these different teachers of all these different religions, from, like, muslim scholars to Wayne Dyer like I said, joel Osteen was in there, a lot Joyce Meyer, so like super large spectrum.

Jehna: 5:48

So, being open to all these things, growing up from the age of nine on, I just really got into it. So I personally then decided I was going to read all the spiritual texts of as many religions as I could get my hands on. So at the age of as a third grader, I didn't understand. Let me be clear, I was not like understanding these philosophical texts as a nine year old. But I got my brain started. So I read the Torah, I read the Bhagavad Gita, I read the Ramayana, I read the Bible, the Koran, all the things, including the Aliyah and the Odyssey, as spiritual texts.

Jehna: 6:23

Yeah, oh my gosh. No, that was wild. And then I had to reread them as I actually understood the words that I was reading, but it was really exciting. And then also spiritual texts and learning more about this world of manifestation and co-creation, going back to like the major classics of the early 1900s with Florence Govel, shin's, the Game of Leap and how to Play it, all of those things. So yeah, just was super open my entire life and then decided I'm going to get open to the idea of Reiki, which is energy healing. I was raised again super open to all the things. So if Western medicine was awesome, we could also be open to the awesomeness of Eastern medicine and energy healing. So it was very fun and now I get to do it for myself and help others, and it's just a good time.

Lauren: 7:11

That's awesome. When did you get into Reiki?

Jehna: 7:17

I got Reiki one and two a few years ago and then recently I got my Reiki master license, but as a person who was just getting Reiki done to me, my mom introduced it to me when I was in middle school. We went to this really small town that's now growing in popularity, mobilevita, where all the national parks are oh yeah, yeah, as we've gone every year. There was this spa there and they had Reiki as one of the services and of course my mom, being super open to that, was like, hey, I'm going to get Reiki services for both my daughters and I went in and I sort of got it changed my life. I don't even know how to explain it. I the tension was gone, I was in a state of complete relaxation.

Jehna: 8:00

I feel like I connected with my paternal grandfather and there were things that I did not know that he just came there and was like girl I know, and it was just like I went home and I told my mom and she was like, oh well, that's interesting and of course she was like completely open to it. But then I also had to go and tell my dad, who's an MD doctor, being like yo, I just had this Reiki session and I think I might have like seen your dad. So this is fine Wow.

Lauren: 8:30

What was his response?

Jehna: 8:32

He was like really touched and he was like thank you, general. That meant a lot Like that you told me. So I think he was open to it and I think he believed in it because he's, despite being a western MD and very much like science guy, he's also open to there being more out there. So that's good yeah.

Frank: 8:50

Do you consider yourself to be sensitive in a psychic manner, or this was just like a one-off?

Jehna: 8:57

I don't. I can say that I think that I'm intuitive, that I can read vibes very well, sure, but I don't think that by any mean that I go around saying, hey, I can connect to the other world, hey, I'm a medium, hey, I'm a psychic. I'm not that blessed. But if it happened for me and people wanted to come through with messages, I'm never saying no, yeah, but I think that was one of two experiences that were just kind of otherworldly. Yeah, that were pretty cool.

Frank: 9:25

That's amazing.

Lauren: 9:26

I mean, yeah, they say like during certain rakey sessions or during an attunement, sometimes like it opens you up enough that you're able to I don't know expand your sensitivity, Sure, yeah.

Jehna: 9:41

Yeah, yeah, which is awesome because, as a guided meditation facilitator, I've helped other people get connected to their spirit guides, so I just need to get to that place again myself, where I'm that open.

Lauren: 9:53

Yeah, that's really cool.

Frank: 9:56

That is really cool.

Lauren: 9:57

Yeah, so like you've done a guided like guided meditations before, where someone's like this has never happened and I just felt the presence of somebody or something like that.

Jehna: 10:08

Yeah, yeah, I did one recently where she connected with a great aunt, which is really really cool, and that great aunt came through with like some career advice for her, what so, yeah, whoa, that was awesome. Yeah, actually, my entire practice currently is online because I am a full-time teacher, so my business is completely virtual right now.

Lauren: 10:34

Oh, that's so cool. So you do like a guided meditation for one person and kind of guide them into a specific like intention or how to talk yeah absolutely.

Jehna: 10:48

It's like an hour long. We set an intention for it. So either just super relaxation, we do spirit guide work, which is really fun, shocker balancing, connecting to your highest self to help call in your manifestations, which is one of my favorite ones to do, so getting in touch with who you would be when you got all your manifestations, and really getting in touch and embodying her. So going as into like what perfume is she wearing? Or what perfume is he? Or Cologne is he wearing, yeah, and then they're like oh interesting, this is Good Girl by Caroline Herrera. Never thought that was my vibe, but here I am. I think I need to go buy some from Sephora after this.

Frank: 11:28

Oh, my gosh, I like that. So this is, this is great. That's. This is one of the things that we want to dive into a little bit more. Because we aren't super, I should. I should speak for myself. I'm not great at the concept of manifestation, and some of that might be because of you had mentioned the secret and Wayne Dyer and all that. I think I have had experience with people who were doing the secret wrong, and I have a thing that I was actually just writing about today, about how some people, their form of manifestation, is almost creating a cognitive dissonance where they're basically lying to themselves about something they don't have. And what's the hell? What are we supposed to do about that?

Jehna: 12:10

What's the right?

Frank: 12:10

way to manifest. Okay, so I always say manifestation is a through and through.

Jehna: 12:15

I always say manifestation is a three part thing. This is not like magic, this is steps. This is aligned action. So first thing is, yeah, we're going to put a little bit of Delilu out there in the world, we're going to say a prayer, we're going to put a petition out there or, for my non religious folk, we're just going to put a request out into the university. Hey, I would really love to get this thing.

Jehna: 12:37

Whatever that thing is, it could be as simple as I don't know five bucks to as insane and awesome, as, like Mercedes G class G, wagon class three, we can put it out there in a Tesla. So you got to put it out there. You got to get really clear on what you want first. It's very much like taking smart steps when you're making a goal like a smart goal. So first thing is you're going to get clear on what you want. But then the next part is you do have to become a vibrational match to what you want to get.

Jehna: 13:12

You have to get your energy aligned, because if you're out here saying I will never be able to afford a Tesla, oh, I don't even know how I'm going to pay my bills. If you're getting to that, then there is a thing called vibrations, there is your energy, and if you're walking hunchback, saying woe to me, then the universe is going to be like yo okay, well, we were going to give this to you, but you don't believe enough, man, you got to get confident. You got to embody that. Yes, I can do it. Yes, it's going to come for me. Yes, this thing is going to appear in divine timing, when the time is right, it's going to happen, and that's when the universe steps in and says all right, buddy, you're ready. Let me show you the steps of how to get there because it's not like passive process aligning your Request.

Lauren: 14:05

Let's say like I want to make a thousand extra dollars, whatever per month or something like that, with your energy in believing that you can or almost I've heard like act as if you already make that $1,000, but or believe or not like spend a thousand dollars extra per month.

Frank: 14:27

That's the part.

Lauren: 14:28

That's the part.

Jehna: 14:29

Yeah, and that's where I'm going to come and chat with you about that. That third step is small, aligned actions. I'm not telling you to go and spend a thousand dollars If you want to go and travel the world. I'm not telling you to go and buy a first state class Emirates ticket to Dubai. I'm not saying to do that. Yeah, don't, you know, do anything extreme.

Jehna: 14:47

But you know what, if you could buy a new $5 makeup purse or a travel kit on Amazon that you're going to put your toiletries in? Maybe make that splurge and say, hey, universe, this is my small step. And then just allow yourself to see the signs and get guided towards making that a thing. And it might not happen the way you necessarily think it's going to happen. Maybe it's not. You're buying a first class ticket to Emirates Dubai.

Jehna: 15:12

Maybe you're like, oh hey, work, just gave me an opportunity to travel to, I don't know, egypt for something. Maybe that's how you're traveling the world, right, but your manifestation still came true, right? You still got to travel the world like you wanted to, yeah, um, so just get excited about getting guided. And then another thing is is that, with manifestations, they're going to be signs all around you that your manifestation is coming. So if you're manifesting a thousand dollars, maybe it doesn't start with you getting a thousand dollars. Maybe you find a dollar, a bill, on the street. Don't go and say what dude, universe, god, whatever is out there. I was manifesting a thousand dollars and you gave me this $1 bill. Are you serious?

Lauren: 15:56

You're like $999 short yeah, no, that's your sign.

Jehna: 15:58

That's the sign that your thousand dollars coming. So when you see that dollar, get happy, be like thank you universe. The other $999 is on its way, right, okay, that's cool. That's my view of manifestation.

Lauren: 16:14

It's not anything magical Like it could be.

Jehna: 16:16

It could be as easy as saying I want to get a $10,000 raising your boss coming and being like, hey, that's not going to happen. I want to get a $10,000 raising your boss coming and being like, hey, the next day or in three months, yes, what, we saw your hard work and we're giving you a $10,000 raise. It could happen like that, but most of the time, manifestation is the act of co-creating with the universe. You're taking active steps in this process. You're not going to just step back and let it happen. You're going to take baby steps, and that also helps you feel more in control of it too. Right, yeah.

Lauren: 16:50

So, okay, what are the three steps?

Jehna: 16:53

Request into the universe. Get into that aligned embodiment, start to feel like you're worthy of receiving that. So another word for that is confidence that you can get what you want. And then the third thing is take a very small, aligned action towards getting what you want. Do your part of getting your request.

Lauren: 17:11

Wait, actually, frank, I want to see. We've had conversations lately about manifesting and I feel like you were just talking about your kind of overcoming some not doubt, but like a struggle with the idea of it how does this inform you or change like a perspective for you and how will you put this into action?

Frank: 17:39

Wait, hold on.

Lauren: 17:43

This was all meant for Frank. I'm just curious like if that changed any thoughts?

Frank: 17:54

Yeah, I mean, my big thing about it all was like telling yourself untrue. This is not manifestation right, but according to this three step program that I'm now on, thank you, Jenna. Like making a request already is not lying to yourself. You're having to make a request.

Lauren: 18:14

Yeah, so you're being. Do you put it in current present tense, like I will be driving a Mercedes, whatever you say.

Frank: 18:25

Yeah, what's the good?

Jehna: 18:27

You could do that. What I'm working with beginners is that's my like, that's my favorite thing in the world. I have a podcast called the beginners guys spirituality so that I can teach beginners how to do all this Great. So when I'm working with beginners, I say just start with saying, hey, man, I really want $1000. Right, okay, then as you get, I mean, also start with baby things. Right, because we are training. This is psychology too. We're training our subconsciouses, we're rewriting the narrative. So start with something small, saying, hey, I'm going to find a penny while I'm at the grocery store. I'm going to get a lucky penny and then, when that comes true, then you can be like I made that happen, I co-created that. Now I'm going to work my way up to a dollar. Now I'm going to work my way up to $20. Because that also helps with our embodiment of it, right?

Frank: 19:20

Yeah.

Jehna: 19:21

Like it's really hard to say I'm going to get $100,000 tomorrow. That's like some real next level stuff.

Frank: 19:28

Yeah.

Jehna: 19:29

But for me to say, hey, when I go to our you know grocery store we call it Meyer when I go to Meyer, I'm going to go and get, I'm going to find a penny. I can believe that I'm going to find a penny, right, yeah, that's easy for me to get in tune with, and then you work your way up. So when you're doing affirmation work, like you just mentioned, start with just saying I want to find a dollar and then eventually, you work your way up to saying I am a millionaire. Okay, yeah, okay.

Frank: 19:58

So that's the other thing.

Jehna: 19:59

Then you can get into present tense.

Frank: 20:02

Like the baby steps towards what you want, as opposed to like. I could just say like I want a co-billion dollars right now and like and the universe would be like.

Lauren: 20:10

That is not a real word.

Frank: 20:12

I'll be like no, I'm getting a co-billion dollars. But yeah, the concept of like working your way there and being clear on what you want and then trying to embody that and I'm assuming that you were mentioning your energy alignment towards that Is that where you started working with Chakras, or is that something entirely different?

Jehna: 20:33

Part of it yeah, so that's part of my Reiki is that I do sharper balancing during it, and the two are separate, but I just combine all the energy healing modalities I can, yeah, the most bang for your butt. So, yeah, but that does help, using Reiki, using chakra balance, things that can help you just get vibrationally feeling better. If you're feeling sad, and if you're feeling, I mean, you of course can still manifest, but when you feel like excited instead I don't want to use the word desperate, but if you feel like you are so desperately needing this thing, then of course the universe is going to see that and recognize it. But it's easier for it to come through if you're not blocking your own energy. Right, because a lot of times, I mean, we know we all carry attention in certain places. Right, I carry mine in my shoulders or I carry mine in my middle of the back. Those have different things to it, like my shoulders could very much be. If it's chronic tension, you're carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders, or so you feel.

Lauren: 21:47

Mm, hmm.

Jehna: 21:48

Then if you clear that energetically I'm not saying that you're going to have perfect posture, but you'll at least feel like you're not carrying the burdens of the world on your shoulders. Sure, Right. So then it's easier to open up to the idea that you can get what you want.

Lauren: 22:03

Do you work with clients sometimes where, like you find they just can't get out of a negative pattern and like, how do you rewire that? Or help them rewire it if they, if they do?

Jehna: 22:20

Yeah, I've had a few, and it's been a kind of different thing with each of the three that I'm thinking of. The first one was very he went through some life stuff. He lost his parents, one at a very young age, one more recently and he was just having a hard time believing that there was anything more out there.

Lauren: 22:40

Mm, hmm.

Jehna: 22:41

And so it was more. We had to step back and go through this reworking of spiritual trauma and religious trauma and hearing in Sunday school or religious school or Islamic equivalent education classes. I'm not going to say what religion he was. He had to go through and say, ok, these people were saying that this was the only way to get to God. I'm not even vibing with God right now. I'm really mad at God, mm, hmm.

Jehna: 23:07

So we said I had to say, ok, well, take a step back. You're not saying that you don't believe in anything. How about you go out in nature and just sit in nature and get good feeling in nature? Ok, you really, you know, connected to this place when you went for your dad's burial. Cool, can you try to find a place in your local area that gives you that similar vibe? And then maybe you go and reflect there. And so we had to take it back to step one, where we just believe that it's possible to Think that's something out there cares for you. Oh, wow. So that was one step.

Jehna: 23:42

Yeah, another one was just going through some really bad emotional work and we did as much as we could in Reiki and in shocker balancing, but I'm always the kind that says use all of your resources, don't just rely on one thing. And that might be because my dad's an MD and my sister's a nurse. Oh, wow, yeah. And then the rest of us are all very open to everything, and so are the MD and the nurse. They're open to all things to be used with the resources you have available.

Jehna: 24:08

So actually, for her, I actually recommended that she go to therapy for a few months and work with a trauma informed specialist and then, once she was able to overcome that deep depression that she was in, now she's come back to me in a different spot and while she's not 100 percent the happy, cheerful human in the world, she's at least open to the idea that things are going to be OK. Yeah, and now, now that you have that fundamental belief that things are going to be OK, now we can start working. Yeah, I can work at a base level, but I'm not a trauma informed therapist. Yeah, that's where I send people to my sister. Maybe my sister is not there, but she's a mental health nurse practitioner. But, yeah, her sphere. Yeah, her sphere, not mine.

Frank: 25:00

It is such a big deal to and something to recognize that when I think everyone's been there at some point where you just feel like let down by things didn't turn out the way you expected them to turn out and you feel abandoned by whatever your higher power is and whatever you're left behind, yeah, exactly.

Frank: 25:19

And like when you're in that, that like low state, I think any request comes across as angry or desperate and that seems like it's close to impossible to work with that energy in like a positive light, you got to turn that, that shit around real fast.

Lauren: 25:36

Yeah, and it's also like you said, like saying it, requesting it, but in a way, that's like I'm going to say it but it's not actually going to come to me. Yeah, and that's part of that, like lower vibrational energy, right.

Jehna: 25:50

Yeah, and I want to say it's not that it won't come through. It very well could, because it's not like my life has been perfect as a manifestation coach who's raised on spirituality and doing these things. It's not like everything I've ever wanted has come through, like, of course, I've faced disappointments, too Sure. And then you're like what the heck, excuse me, all the signs reporting in this direction, what are you talking about?

Lauren: 26:14

Yeah.

Jehna: 26:17

But then things still work out. It's just maybe it's a little bit slower. It's going to still work out, but it's a perspective shift that you have to make and you have to choose to see that things are working in your favor, even the nose or just redirection. Yeah, I was just thinking for myself, but I was so wanting a job because I'm a teacher in my full time life. Yeah, I wanted a job at the school district that I went to growing up and I manifested, literally as a sixth grader. I remember manifesting walking up and down the halls, like one day I'm going to walk up and down these halls with my Starbucks carrier, giving my former teachers now my colleagues the coffee I picked up on our morning run. Yeah, and I was so confident and I was so sure of it and it was just okay. Now I just have to go through the steps of getting through school, graduating high school, and this is me at 12.

Lauren: 27:11

Wow, that's amazing.

Jehna: 27:13

Okay, and so I go through. I go to the number one education college in the country. I graduate with honors. I'm like, okay, it's set. And that year, three openings in social studies opened up in this district. Three, that's unheard of. This is a highly sought after district, that people say. But there were three retirements that year. That happened. I said look at the universe opening the doors. They give me an interview and then I wait for months to hear back and I never hear back. I never even got to know. Oh my gosh, I just didn't hear back and I had been devastated. And of course I'm a manifesto. I'm not going to sit eating bonbons, I'm going to go apply for other jobs. Yeah Well as.

Frank: 27:57

I went to the back. That's what I'm doing wrong.

Jehna: 28:00

Eating bonbons.

Frank: 28:00

I always resort to the bonbons.

Jehna: 28:03

I know man, it's hard those bonbons are good, very good. Yeah.

Frank: 28:08

Sorry, continue.

Jehna: 28:09

I go and apply for other jobs and I get called in for an online school to come and interview. Now, eventually, my long term plan was to eventually teach college online and I was going to teach religious theologies because your girl loves spirituality and religion, and so I was going to go and do that on a university level.

Jehna: 28:30

I never thought that I would teach K-12 online, even though every opportunity I got through high school and college to take an online course, I was taking online classes. Yeah, I go for that interview and it's the best interview of my life. We talk about all the projects I do and student teaching, but then we start talking about restaurants in a small town in Canada, because I'm going on vacation to the small town in Canada and she happened to be there. Yeah, then we start talking about my love for cheese, because I love cheese.

Frank: 29:01

Because you're human.

Jehna: 29:01

Yeah.

Lauren: 29:02

Who doesn't?

Jehna: 29:03

I love cheese, so we start talking about cheese in this interview. Who talks about cheese in restaurants in an interview? And I left there feeling light and happy and confident. Yeah, and a week and a half later, I get a yes from this job and I'm like, okay, well, maybe it's meant to be. It was a really great interview. I've always loved taking classes online. Long term plan was to teach online. Okay, let's go for it, let's do it. I never heard back. I still to this day. I never got to know from that school district. Oh my gosh.

Lauren: 29:40

I just got ghosted. Yeah, I just got ghosted.

Frank: 29:43

There was restructuring happening.

Jehna: 29:45

It all worked out because, first of all, amazing loved it. I wanted I had been manifesting a spacesuit to teach in, where I would have a window next to me, I would have carpet, I would be able to put my like vision board up. I was like I'm going to make this the most positive, uplifting space and I wasn't going to have those bright, fluorescent lights on. I was going to close all those and just have a bunch of lamps everywhere. Well, instead of teaching in a physical classroom, I, for the first year and a half, taught it in a cubicle where everybody kept their lights off. Everybody had lamps that they're does. You could do what you wanted to decorate your cube and you got to work from home on Fridays.

Jehna: 30:24

Fantastic Then the pandemic happened and we completely shifted to working from home, and now I have my vision board at my desk.

Lauren: 30:34

There it is, I have a window I can look at it. Yeah, I was thinking that you said that.

Jehna: 30:41

I have my heated blanket and carpet under my feet and that's so cool. The only thing that changed in my job, where the entire system of education had changed during COVID and everybody was scrambling to be like I don't know how to teach online. Yeah, here's some packets. Kids, go for it, right.

Lauren: 30:59

Good luck. You like knew what you were doing already.

Jehna: 31:02

I was like hey, the only thing that changes for me is I just teach for my bedroom.

Frank: 31:07

Right.

Jehna: 31:07

I don't need to worry about it.

Frank: 31:10

So you manifested COVID-19 for us then.

Jehna: 31:14

Yay.

Frank: 31:15

Thanks, Jenna.

Jehna: 31:15

Go smile.

Lauren: 31:17

Thanks, jenna. Amazing co-creating with the universe. Look what you did. Shit guys. Sorry humanity, my bad Go me, oh my.

Jehna: 31:24

God, let me ask you this then God really wanted to let me eat ice cream.

Frank: 31:35

Let me ask you this as from a professional manifestation coach you knew what your ultimate goal was. What kept you from putting that first before just wanting to work for that district? Was it just like your? Was it like a creativity thing? Or you didn't think that you can go from this to like working online, or what was it?

Jehna: 31:57

Oh, I haven't thought about that. No, that's a great question that I just haven't reflected on. So give me a second, because that's a very good question to ask.

Frank: 32:07

I'm not trying to send your life into a spiral. No, no, no, no. It's amazing we didn't go frank.

Jehna: 32:13

That's an actual question. And, darna, you canceled therapy on Wednesday. Man, I need to call Rachel up, like, hey, I need an emergency session here, no, okay. So the thing is is that I was very, very passionate specifically about religion, right, and theology. That's really hard and very specialized topic to teach about, even at a college level and also, realistically, it was easier to teach social studies and history in schools.

Jehna: 32:45

I was like, okay, by the time I get through, you know, and teach you for a while, figure out the steps to get to teaching at a university. And then, as I got to teaching, I love my job so much and the perks that I still work online and I can still travel and it's all good and it's a good time. I still teach civilizations. I still teach you how to become global citizens, to embrace differences, to build bonds and bridges according to like just being brothers and sisters in humanity. Now I just get to teach it at a younger age and I get to influence this new generation coming up to be open to other people. That's awesome, and so I think that's really cool and I really like what I'm doing, and so I don't think I would ever want to teach at maybe a university level, unless they gave me like a course of intro to manifestation or intro to spirituality based on just like my blogs and my podcast.

Frank: 33:40

I mean pretty cool. But so the reason why I asked that specifically is because I feel like, for those of us who are overly linear thinkers like I, have a time and I tend to say I want to get to this eventually, but I'm going to have to do these 100 micro steps before I get there. And it seems like maybe the you were taking care of in a way where you got to what you actually wanted quicker than you thought you could.

Jehna: 34:05

Yeah, I mean it was, it was cool, it happened faster and it, but in a different way. I wanted to eventually teach online but, like I said, yeah, you're right, manifestation came through just in a different way and it worked out. But I'm also a very linear thinker. In that way, I am very much the A to B to C to D. Yeah, because I'm like, if I need to co-create, I'm going to do my M this to make it happen, yeah. So I don't want to let anything from my end fall through the cracks.

Frank: 34:33

Yeah, yeah, I get that. I have too many spreadsheets.

Lauren: 34:37

Same oh true. He's got a spreadsheet for everything.

Frank: 34:41

Well, I'm also not a math person, so I use Excel as my math figure out. Same, whenever I have to figure something out, I open a sheet.

Lauren: 34:50

I love hearing like specifics Like this are how people have manifested something that they're like really working towards. Do you have any stories of like a client that you helped reach any kind of manifesting goal?

Jehna: 35:05

Yeah, I have some clients that have been manifesting a few things that I've helped them, but you know what, when it came to the realization today, that was a little more powerful for me personally. I have two friends that have really struggled with fertility, multiple miscarriages or ectoptics, and last year during the summer I had talked to one of them and I said I'm manifesting for you that by this time next year you're going to be having a child, you're going to hold your rainbow baby in your arms, and I affirmed that for her. And then I also helped her through this manifestation process and she's nine weeks out from having her rainbow baby.

Frank: 35:50

Oh my gosh.

Jehna: 35:53

One that, like has year and a half of trying for a child, and she just texted me yesterday that she just got her positive pregnancy test.

Jehna: 36:03

So I'm not going to let her know and we had run a couple actually manifestation events together. So I did manifestation, she did yoga and during it, during my portion, she was going through all of the steps for what I was in the group through and we were doing vision boards and one of the things on her vision board that we worked through was her getting pregnant with her rainbow baby. So, yeah, I think that for me today to realize that two people I love and care about so deeply are bringing children into this world, I believe their second child, each of them, that's really. I'm just honored that I could be part of that manifestation journey. Yeah, yeah.

Frank: 36:47

A manifestation team. That's a new concept to me.

Lauren: 36:51

Yeah.

Frank: 36:53

Oh it's powerful.

Jehna: 36:55

Manifesting for others is even more powerful, I think, than even manifesting for ourselves, sending that good vibe into the world for someone. And there's also power in numbers. So don't pray for yourself or manifest for yourself, but I think the biggest gift that we can give each other as friends, is manifesting and affirming one another. Yeah, and I'm also a true believer that we are our inner circle. We are the sum of the top five people we spend time with, right, yeah, I think that's like a really known saying. So now fill my circle or be part of somebody else's inner five and have that inner five to be people that believe in you, that support you, that believe that you can co-create the life of your dreams, that are speaking good vibes over you. Because otherwise, if they're constantly doubting that you're able to do this, that you're worthy of your dreams, that you can have all your dreams fulfilled, no dream is too small. If they're doubting that and they're voicing that to you, that's the subliminal message that's going to be playing in your head over and over again. Right, yeah.

Lauren: 38:01

So our friend Judith, who like believes in and appreciates our podcast so much that she was like and I was thinking like I really need help with our social media and she I didn't say anything like that to her, but she just said to me like recently, do you want me to help you with your social media? She believes in our podcast so much that she was like willing to help and like create a plan and all this stuff for us and it really makes it feel like she's helping manifest for us, like what you're saying, it's like a team and like even just knowing that she believes in it was like that just raised my vibration even more and like my confidence, like you're saying.

Frank: 38:53

Like Kelly too, like Kelly, kelly has been like reaching out saying, hey, let's, let's like brainstorm on what, like how we can make our dreams come true. I'm like that's a very fun conversation. Let's do that, kelly, come on.

Jehna: 39:06

It's so looking and amazing that you have these people in your life and you manifested Judith reaching out. I don't know if you realize that. Yeah, you said yeah.

Frank: 39:15

One of my issues has always been like I have a hard time accepting help. Yes, Right. Yes, yeah, I mean talking about like our friends. Like our friends have like consistently surprised me and like just they're offering to help or just be available and it's been so nice, and I don't know, do you have any anything to speak towards in like that, how necessary it is to be able to accept help?

Jehna: 39:39

Look, friends, this is one that I'm still having trouble with, but I also am at a point where I recognize how the universe works and how people come through in our lives in different ways and unexpected ways. I'm just thinking of one close friend of mine she's actually my ex's mom and the universe to just center in this way for her to be part of our lives. And actually, from the moment I didn't even meet her I heard her talking on a video. I was like this woman needs to meet my mother, like I need to have these women meet. So, even though it was like a month and a half into a relationship, I was like our mothers need to meet.

Frank: 40:16

Oh, that's awesome.

Jehna: 40:17

And so our families met and, even though it wasn't a forever relationship for us because we have our own charities we need to take and there's nothing but good vibes and friendship there. She's still best friends with my mother. She just started her consulting business. She comes over like once a week and so last week sorry, two weeks ago I helped her with her website and then she came over on Tuesday and then she helped me with my website and she was saying that she was in the shower and as she was in the shower she was trying to think how can I help Jenna with her business? Wow, Like what? And then she was meditating on like different ideas for me.

Jehna: 40:56

I mean, that touches me more than any physical gift I could ever receive. Yeah, when my mother says that she's praying for me or my grandmother says that they're manifesting for me, I literally get close to tears because that's like the kindest thing that somebody could do for me is wish me well. Yeah, and put that vibe out there. How can you receive from the divine if you don't receive from the people he's sending to help you? Yeah.

Frank: 41:21

Yeah.

Lauren: 41:23

I've had to like slow Frank down frequently and I feel like it's, I feel like you're starting to be more open to it, but like your instinct is to go no, no, no, we can do it. We can do it. Or I know it's okay, I can do it, and I'm like, wait, life's a journey. It's okay for someone to help you.

Frank: 41:46

I think one of the reasons why I held on to that mentality for so long is because I maybe it was impatience, I don't know. I never wanted to have to rely on anybody to do this stuff I was excited about.

Lauren: 41:56

Yeah, yeah, I'm getting pointed at.

Frank: 41:59

I'm getting pointed at.

Jehna: 42:01

Yes, yes, you got a physical reaction from me. That is me where I'm like, okay, I'm impatient, I want to do it for myself. I want to get it done. And you know what? God's my helper. It's gonna be good, he's got this, yeah. So, yes, vibe, but then it also frustrates the absolute world out of me. Yeah, when my mother does the same thing. Right, I'm like I said I was coming to help you in five minutes. That's the divine timing God is saying me in five minutes to help you after you get off this call and of course, nothing's going to change.

Jehna: 42:35

That's my mother. My dad has many projects. I love the man to death, Dad, if you're listening. I love you, Mom. You know I love you too, even though I'm venting about you right now. He was doing stuff and moving other things of my dad's projects out in the garage and then she comes inside and the next day we see like a million boosts on her and we're like what's up with the help? Oh no, Be patient enough to let the help come in divine timing.

Frank: 43:01

Right.

Jehna: 43:02

But again, I'm an impatient soul and I say, okay, God, I want this thing and I want it now, so make it happen, yeah.

Frank: 43:09

I'm a little bit of a journalist to like learn a bunch of stuff. I've got a wall full of certificates that are unrelated to each other, just cause same thing, Like yeah, we're friends. That's so funny. Something else you brought up like made me think, Cause like one of the things that I've been wanting to manifest is like Lauren and I talk about wanting to like have enough abundance in our lives where we can be charitable with our, with our money uh, more charitable and just give to people who need something. But something that you just mentioned like that I've never actually considered is using your time as a form of charity and thinking of how you can help someone manifest, and I love that so much. If I don't have the the necessarily the funds to give somebody at this time in my life, I do have the ability to at least think about them and give them my intention and in a certain to a certain extent.

Lauren: 44:02

Yeah, you like naturally do that, absolutely. You naturally do that, though, I know.

Frank: 44:07

But I've never like thought about it that way.

Lauren: 44:09

Yeah.

Frank: 44:10

By, like recognizing it. I can do it better Well there you go.

Jehna: 44:14

You can be intentional about it.

Lauren: 44:16

Yeah, he like does a lot of stuff for people like projects and because he has so many skills, stop.

Frank: 44:22

People are going to think I'm nice, cut it out. I'm real mean.

Lauren: 44:25

All of his skills have like he lends his time pretty well, but but looking at it as like charity, can we just take a?

Jehna: 44:32

second, though, then they're not random certificates. That was divine timing. This was all the reason you wanted to get the certificate. Wasn't because you wanted the certificate was because the universe was saying I need to make sure that this man has the certificate so he can help this person in five years, at divine timing, with this thing that they need.

Frank: 44:49

Yes, I'm going to. I'm going to borrow that.

Jehna: 44:53

Yeah, it's all coming together full circle. Yeah, I mean, if I look at my life, after random that I, you know, went through Reiki master we're going to have to do, guy in meditation, very, very super open and spiritual and manifesting, and now all of a sudden I'm like, hey, I should open up a holistic healing LLC, and now all of the random things that I've done over the last 10 years or 28 years, if I look at manifestation spirituality, it's come together.

Lauren: 45:23

Yeah.

Jehna: 45:23

Maybe it wasn't all random, yeah. Like I thought it was like that sounds cool. Let me go for it. It was all meant to be.

Lauren: 45:30

And like listening, being able to, like, recognize that and listening to it and following it. Those are all important, little like signs and a way to put it together.

Frank: 45:41

Yeah, is there. Is there a particular thing that you can attribute to the majority of spiritual traumas? Is there some some like shared life experience that causes that? Oh, I want to know what it is.

Jehna: 45:56

It's people. In every single coaching session that I've had related to spiritual trauma or religious trauma, I say 95%, yeah, I'm going to go 95%. It's people traumatizing other people in the name of God. Yeah, god's not personally coming down and saying, hey, man, this is going to be fun, let's wreck your life a little bit. I mean, yeah, there's people who go through shit, right. Yeah, god's not like going to come and say, huh, fba, buddy, let's just give you a whole ton of shit that you have to deal with. Yeah, there's reasons we go through really hard times. There are 100% reasons.

Jehna: 46:38

But the things that cause people most often to turn away from God himself is people saying the wrong thing, like saying this is the only way that you're going to connect to God. If you come to services every Friday, saturday, sunday night and you have to say these prayers three times a day, and if you don't say them perfectly, god's going to be mad at you. If you do X, y and Z, god's going to be mad at you. If you do anything, god's going to be mad at you. And then the kids, because it's usually in a child place, it's usually when they're still learning and developing their personal relationship with the universe. They're like oh shit, man I'm, the odds are stacked against me from the beginning. They're not perfect, I don't got a shot.

Frank: 47:25

Right.

Jehna: 47:25

Yeah, if I don't follow, if I don't vibe with this particular way that I'm being raised, I don't have a shot. God's not going to care about me. Why would he care about me? Why would they care about me? And so it's a reattuning and saying God didn't traumatize you, a person traumatized you. Are you going to give a person the power of the Almighty Right? Yeah, you can't. I mean, you can't give your religious ed teacher that much.

Jehna: 47:54

No matter what path you take, we all have our own path to get to this Almighty source, this divine spirit. And coming from a place where we don't judge others, and then realizing, then that's a reflection of this universal energy. That's not judgy or scary, it's very much graceful and giving and loving. But if I'm coming from point A and you're coming from point B and we're all meeting in Alaska, the way that you guys get to Alaska and the way I get to Alaska are going to be completely different, but the end goal is still Alaska. We're still going to end up meeting in Alaska and it's going to be a great time. But we're not meant to have one way of getting to Alaska.

Frank: 48:41

Right.

Jehna: 48:41

How boring would that be? Yeah, I can't imagine if we were all meant to just get to Alaska taking the same highway or the same airplane. Like I can't imagine being this universal energy, watching all of this unfold. Being like this is so boring.

Lauren: 48:56

I've seen this so many times.

Jehna: 49:00

Angels, you got to stop making me popcorn for this. Like I need to figure out something else to do with my infinite time, yeah.

Frank: 49:07

One more question. Cool, I'm friends with a psychologist and because you had mentioned vision boards and she mentioned that she's not huge on vision boards, I think because it can become a comparative practice and it can even like encourage, like envy to a certain extent. What's the right way to vision board?

Jehna: 49:23

Oh, okay, here we go. First of all, I'm huge into psychology. My sister's a psych nurse, so I totally get where you're coming from. I think I'll show my vision board, sure.

Frank: 49:39

Yeah, that's really what I was doing. Let's see that thing.

Jehna: 49:41

He's just beating you. I don't have pictures.

Frank: 49:46

Who's that guy with big abs on?

Jehna: 49:51

Oh yeah, Hi guys.

Frank: 49:53

Just kidding.

Jehna: 49:55

He's on my physical vision board. That's my computer desk.

Frank: 50:00

That's in the private folder.

Jehna: 50:03

No, my, he is not a man with six pack. He's a man who is a teddy bear, with a beautiful smile, who reflects the inner goodness and divine light within him. So you hear that folks.

Lauren: 50:16

Whoever you are out there, yeah, let's manifest that.

Jehna: 50:20

I'm excited to meet you, but maybe not six packs, because your girl doesn't have six packs.

Frank: 50:26

They're intimidating.

Jehna: 50:27

I just want a teddy bear guy. But mine are all affirmations Okay.

Frank: 50:32

Oh, I like that.

Jehna: 50:33

Yeah Instead of having, because I don't know how the universe wants all of this to show up. I don't want to put necessarily like a specific car on there, because maybe the universe has a batter car out there for me and I didn't even realize that I was worthy of getting that amazing car. So instead I have something like God is my sugar daddy on my yeah, did you cut that out of a magazine or write that yourself.

Jehna: 51:01

No, ma'am, I made my own sticker because I realized that a lot of the times I'm looking for stuff for my vision board and I can't find what I need. Yeah, so I decided to remember that trend that was running around on social media a long time ago. Fine, I guess I'll do it myself.

Jehna: 51:17

And then it's like whatever they've done for themselves. Yeah, I know my own vision board stickers and my own notebooks and my own merch and then I just toss it on my Etsy in case other people buy with it, that's so funny.

Lauren: 51:29

Oh well, send us your Etsy yeah please, so we can link it. Oh okay, sure, yes, I will do that. I love that sticker. That's great.

Jehna: 51:37

Yeah, it's such a vibe. Yeah, and now I'm on water. I'm very much into Dr Imodo's water theory, where you speak affirmations over your water.

Lauren: 51:45

Oh yeah.

Jehna: 51:46

So I made my own tumbler with God is my sugar daddy on?

Frank: 51:48

it Nice.

Lauren: 51:50

Wait, I saw a thing just speaking of water. I saw a thing where someone put like their current reality and their what they want into a cup and they poured it into. So, like the example, I think I have done that once.

Frank: 52:03

Yeah, the example was like Do you drink the water afterwards?

Lauren: 52:06

Yeah, yes, you drink the water. It's something about like the energy and I don't know but Quantum leaping, quantum, yeah, yeah. So she wrote on a post it it was about like how many followers she has, or something like that on TikTok. So it was like I currently have 300 followers, I want to have 3000 followers, or something like just example. And then you poured the 300 cup into the other one and drank that cup of water. I'm like I mean, she felt the energy of each cup first and then really felt the energy of like the more follower one.

Jehna: 52:43

Before I got my cup made, like three weeks ago, I was literally taking these hot pink sticky notes using this orange sharpie because, like random whatever I had at my desk, and then I was just sticking it on my cup and being like, all right, today I'm manifesting confidence.

Frank: 52:58

Wait, I love that.

Jehna: 52:59

Today I'm manifesting a positive outlook. Or I just recently got into affirmation cards and so I just picked my affirmation for the day from there and being like, okay, universe, tell me what I need to know, or tell me what affirmation I need to imbibe for myself today, and then I'll just put that affirmation on my sticky note and stick that on my water.

Frank: 53:20

How does that work? It sounds like a deck. Is that a deck? You shuffle it and you pull out like a tarot card kind of thing. Or is it like you go through and you select? Sounds like you're taking a small line to actions.

Jehna: 53:30

I am tiny, tiny, small aligned actions, yeah, so it's just like a deck of cards and they have like a pretty affirmation on them and so, yeah, obviously it's been a few days since I've used mine, so I've just been coming up with my own.

Frank: 53:42

I love that though.

Jehna: 53:43

Yeah, here's my last one from a few weeks ago. It was I honor my courage. I have come so far. That was my affirmation. Oh, that's amazing. I liked it so much that I just left it at my desk.

Lauren: 53:56

I think it is easy to forget or not see the trajectory that you've made, the progress that you've made so far, and to be like I don't have anything to show for the last six months or something. But when you really look back, you're like, oh, wait a second, I've done this, I've done this and this and this and like, yeah, that's cool.

Jehna: 54:19

I really needed that reminder that day, because I'm just starting this business on a like mainstream level out and I was hustling so hard and I was doing so much in terms of a line action which I guess is part four that I'm learning to my, for now, step manifestation processes, rest and let go and let go, yeah. So I need to add that now to my script because it's the lesson that I've recently learned, that don't like burn yourself out, yeah. And if I had told myself this time last year, january 2023, that by January 2024, I would have a legit LLC, I started hosting myself on social media with my face and I'm talking on podcast and I've started my own podcast and I write blogs, and I'd be like you're fucking lying, sorry. Oh man, that's cool.

Frank: 55:18

Congratulations, I mean that's amazing that's badass, thank you. Yeah.

Lauren: 55:22

Thank you. I feel like I manifested you as our, as our guests, because I really I mean, I put it on threads and she was like me.

Frank: 55:33

Yeah, yes.

Lauren: 55:35

And then, but you also manifested being a guest on a podcast, which that's 100% we're co-creating?

Jehna: 55:43

Absolutely, we are co-creating, but also, who is she? What is that confidence that I'm like? Hi, I'm Jenna.

Lauren: 55:52

Yeah, that's awesome, that is awesome.

Jehna: 55:56

Yeah, it completely 180 from just where I was my entire life, but it's cool.

Frank: 56:02

That's amazing. Quantum leap, quantum leaping.

Jehna: 56:05

Quantum leap, oh my God. That is what. Yes, actually, now that I say that the sticky note that I had written was I am confident, oh my God. And this is like in high school. Took a minute, but it sounds like divine timing, yeah. Yeah, I guess so.

Lauren: 56:25

Well, you are such a you are a delight, and I'm so happy that we got to talk today.

Frank: 56:30

Thanks so much for coming on, plug all your stuff, tell people where to find you and all that, let's your Etsy First of all the stickers, that's fun. I need a sticker.

Jehna: 56:39

Right, confidence, let's go, let's go. I'm so okay. So I have an Etsy shop. It's divinity care on all one word, super fun, merch, all the things that I need and all the stickers that I make for myself. I just toss on there. I have a website, wwwholistichealingwithjena. My name is spelled J E H N A Holistic healing with J E H N A dot com. And then I have the same holistic healing with Jenna as my name on Instagram and threads, which are the main platforms I post on. You can find me on there. You want to actually like book a Reiki or a guide meditation or actually hire me as a coach. Reach out on any of the social media platforms. If you go to any of them, my number is also on there, so you can like. Just text me, okay, and then we can sort it out from there.

Lauren: 57:32

That's great. We'll link everything. Thank you so much. It was so great to meet you. We're going to be working on this stuff.

Frank: 57:38

I have a look at my notes. I have so much, so much to do Hi.

Jehna: 57:41

I can't wait for us to chat again this time next year. Yeah, regroup, see how things worked out for all of us.

Lauren: 57:48

Talk about all the things we've manifested and all of our confidence.

Jehna: 57:52

She's on the vision board. I radiate confidence, yeah it is she's up there yeah.

Lauren: 57:57

Fantastic Well in that case go team, Go team.

Jehna: 58:01

Yeah, thank you guys. See you soon, bye all.

Frank: 58:22

Bye.