024: Intuitive Healing and Electric Feeling // with Jesse Prejean

Our discussion with Jesse Prejean, spiritual life coach and psychic medium, is a treasure trove of insights, especially for those who are highly sensitive or empathic. We dissect the intricate challenges and inherent gifts that accompany such deep sensitivity, discussing the fine line between embracing one's gifts and protecting oneself from overwhelming energies. Jesse shares his incredible journey as a highly sensitive person (HSP) who overcame addiction and discovered his spiritual gifts, and how he now helps others hone their gifts.

The episode reflects on authenticity and the courage it takes to step out of societal molds and into our true selves. We share our own personal transitions and the liberating process of aligning with our life's purpose. Jesse's narrative reminds us that while the journey to self-discovery may be fraught with challenges, it's replete with opportunities for growth, healing, and a deeper understanding of our intuitive powers.

To learn more about Jesse, book a session, or get coaching, visit:  https://www.jesseprejean.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jp_intuitive_healing/

Transcript

Lauren: 0:00

Hey y'all. In today's episode we talked to Jesse Prejean, a spiritual coach, teacher and psychic medium. We talked about highly sensitive people and empaths and how he teaches and guides people with those sensitivities and his own journey to overcoming addiction as an empath and HSP himself. I'm your host, lauren.

Frank: 0:19

And I'm Frank.

Lauren: 0:20

And this is episode 24 of Clairvoyaging.

Frank: 0:24

And this is a new format called a cold open. You dig?

Lauren: 0:34

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Frank: 0:44

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Frank: 1:02

Hey, lauren, what's going on?

Lauren: 1:05

guys, how's it going? Frank you good yeah, I'm good.

Frank: 1:09

How are you? Oh, great, you know why I'm good, why we just talked to a gent we absolutely did and I had a great time talking to him yeah, his name is jesse prejean. Prejean P-R-E-J-E-A-N and Jesse is J-E-S-S-E.

Lauren: 1:29

Yeah, we had a lot of guesses on how do you pronounce this. We were wrong on all counts.

Frank: 1:35

Yeah, it turns out we're very bad at talk.

Lauren: 1:37

And bad at French. I don't know where that word comes from.

Frank: 1:46

Just a reminder. Everybody, we are still interested in hearing your stories, if you have any. So if you have a story about some kind of energetic experience you had, or experience a spirit in any kind of way, yeah, you healed somebody. They broke their leg and you mended a bone using you know magic we want to hear oh yeah, if you're a magician in that kind of way.

Frank: 2:02

You know what? No magicians. I'm sorry guys, I'm sorry. No, listen, I just want to make sure we're clear. If you're a magician, I love you and I will watch you on YouTube.

Lauren: 2:13

But just not here.

Frank: 2:14

Don't send me your story. Go to our website, wwwclarevoyagingcom and go to send us a story and there's instructions right there and I'm so excited to hear from you, lauren, are you excited to hear from them? Super, oh my gosh. Come on guys, send it. We're a team, one team, one dream. Let's do this.

Lauren: 2:30

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Frank: 2:59

And we love you. So, Jesse. Jesse has a very calming energy to him.

Lauren: 3:05

Yeah.

Frank: 3:06

And I enjoyed very much talking to him, and Lauren and I had a couple of epiphanies pretty early on in the interview, based on his expertise.

Lauren: 3:13

Yeah, he had some great insights. Oh man, and we were both nodding like whoops, oh yeah, okay, are those?

Frank: 3:20

Yeah, those are emotions.

Lauren: 3:22

Yes, we hope you find what he says as enlightening as we did.

Frank: 3:28

And we did so without further ado.

Lauren: 3:33

Here is Jesse Prejean. Jesse Prejean, did I say it right? Yeah, thank you for joining us. On Claire Voyaging, we're happy to have you here.

Jesse: 3:42

Thanks for having me.

Lauren: 3:43

So can you tell us a bit about yourself and what brought you to the work that you're doing now?

Jesse: 3:50

So a little bit of backstory. I'm from Louisiana and I'd always been a hyper sensitive, just very sensitive child and everyone knew that in my family. I was very emotional and just very attuned to things and for the longest time I thought I was just different or something was wrong with me. I wasn't able to navigate life like most people. But through my childhood I had various experiences that were somewhat spiritual in nature, but I had no idea what was happening. I had no frame of reference and there was things that happened that I kind of didn't want to talk about because I never heard other people talk about. It was more of these kind of energetic experiences where I was experiencing what I believe today states of oneness, and I just didn't know how to comprehend that as a child. And you know, later on in life, once I learned meditation and all these different forms of spiritual practice, I realized that's essentially what was happening and I was experiencing it at, you know, from ages five to some eight or something like that, and I always had this kind of just deep knowing that there was more to life.

Jesse: 5:20

As a child I remember, especially around the age 12, 13-ish or so, being in my room and knowing that there was something greater than what my physical body was, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it. It was something there that I couldn't access, couldn't access. And later on, when I went through what we call awakening process, I started to connect the dots as far as what I was experiencing then and I had a framework for it. So that was childhood. I never saw ghosts or had psychic experiences up to that point, but it wasn't later, until later in life, until my twenties, um, when and I started having out of body experiences that were involuntary.

Jesse: 6:13

Um, I remember the first time, yeah, yeah, that was quite a shocker. Um, in college I I was smart enough, I guess, or dumb enough, to be taking chemical engineering courses, because it was the hot career at the time and it was the money-making career. So I thought that's what I wanted and I was so overwhelmed with my classwork and it was finals. I remember it being finals week and I had an aunt who I was close with, who lived on campus. I went to LSU and I remember being out in her front yard and just I had my first mental breakdown as an adult in my early twenties.

Frank: 6:58

We never forget the first one.

Jesse: 7:00

No, definitely not, and I think in that state of distress it prompted my first out-of-body experience. That night I stayed at my aunt's home and I remember the moment. I laid my head down to go to sleep and I turned my head to the side and closed my eyes and in a moment I was floating above my body in the room, having an out-of-body experience and something felt really familiar about it. I wasn't afraid, it just felt like hey, I've done this before, but it was also. There was a curiosity about it.

Jesse: 7:50

So that was the start of a series of involuntary out-of-bodies that I would have throughout my early 20s, and eventually I learned how to control these experiences and induce them through some different techniques, and I was introduced to some books that were really helpful. One in particular I'll plug because it's a great book. It's called you Forever by Lobsang Rampa. He's a yeah, he is a or was, I'm not sure if he's still alive. It was a monk, and this was some practice that he explored in his lifetime and taught, basically taught people how to, you know, transcend the physical body and have these experiences.

Lauren: 8:41

So did you like the? First time it happened, did you slam back into your body, or was it like time to go, time to just go back now?

Jesse: 8:50

uh, yeah, more of the latter I. It had this kind of dreamlike quality to it, where it didn't feel intense or abrasive, and when it was, when I woke up, I just would wake up, as if I'm coming out of a dream state.

Frank: 9:10

Wow, so it wasn't like like um, like sleep paralysis or anything like that.

Jesse: 9:17

No, it was very gentle, um and it's. It was uh. It was always a um, a total switch in consciousness. There was no somnambulist state where you're like kind of awake, kind of asleep. It was more I'm in my body, I'm conscious, and then the next moment I'm out of my body, I'm conscious.

Frank: 9:41

Wow, yeah, that's amazing.

Jesse: 9:45

So, yeah, it was truly amazing. And so, uh, when that started happening, I started exploring more with meditation and things like that, and what really kicked my gifts, I guess you could say, or my my spiritual practice or path? Um, as far as what I do now as a medium and as a spiritual coach and teacher was, I struggled with drug addiction and alcoholism in my twenties. Mid twenties. It kind of took a turn and, you know, life got really difficult. I made it difficult, and coming out of that and starting to heal was when it started to trigger awakening. For me, the struggle of the world is so, so overwhelming that we find a coping mechanism to numb out because we don't have the tools or resources and I had no tools or resources growing up to know how to manage that so and I had to figure things out on my own. But I had a series of energetic shifts that happened when I first decided to get clean and I was in a treatment facility in South Austin and this was back in 2011. And during my stay at the treatment center, I started having these what I now know to be chakra openings. I would be feeling energy come through the crown of my head and it would spark some subsequent opening. A couple of them that I remember distinctly, that I'll never forget, is having this energy just pouring through the crown and suddenly and this is the best way I describe it If someone took a fire hose and hooked it up to the back of your upper torso and just cranked it on and let that blast through the front of your chest, like I had this heart chakra opening. Wow, that's very intense, so intense, so profound. Yeah, it was a flood of energy and I hit the ground. It was just a really beautiful, powerful experience and I believe I was in that moment connecting to this source of unconditional love and really feeling it in my vessel for the first time in my life time in my life and the second experience. That really is what led me to start the path of becoming a healer, a psychic medium and all these things.

Jesse: 12:34

It started the same way I was having this flood of energy come through my crown and I decided to go for a walk alone on the property.

Jesse: 12:42

It was a really beautiful property, beautiful landscape, a lot of space to explore, and as I'm just kind of cruising around, I described this one as being plugged into an electrical socket oh God, not in a painful way, but an electrifying way. Yeah, I felt a surge of energy come through my body, but not only could I feel it in my body, I could feel it at a distance, maybe several feet outside and around my body, and what I believed I was experiencing was feeling energy moving through my auric field and coming through my body. And as this is happening, another experience occurs where I start to feel this electric current of energy begin to emerge from the palms of my hands, and so that was a startling experience that I just kind of let it happen, and the one thing that validated and solidified that experience for me was I went into one of my to one of my roommates at the treatment center, and he was like a West Texas guy, very, you know, cowboy country guy.

Lauren: 14:02

Yeah.

Jesse: 14:03

And he was. I remember him sitting at a desk writing, and I walked in and my face must've looked crazy because I was blown away and I said hey, can I share something with you for a second? He said, sure. I said hold your hands out, hold your palms palms open. And when he did, I put my palms over his and we just looked at each other in amazement and he says to me what the hell are you doing? And I don't know. But we were immersed in this energy and he was clearly feeling it as well. So it made me feel like I wasn't crazy, you know, like something profound was happening. Um, yeah, so that's, that's what kicked it off. And Reiki was the first thing, because I was like there's energy coming out of my hands, like, and I was looking for answers.

Lauren: 14:54

What do I do with?

Jesse: 14:54

this. So Reiki, Reiki was the first stop, yeah exactly I needed to figure out how to channel it. So, yeah, that's where it all began and it's a it's an experience I love to remember because it keeps me connected to what I'm doing.

Lauren: 15:10

Yeah, what a story. That's so cool.

Frank: 15:12

So Reiki, and then where? Where did that progress to? Where are you at today? Where am I today?

Lauren: 15:18

You do like mediumship readings and stuff too right.

Jesse: 15:22

Yeah, I'm kind of a jack of all trades when it comes to, you know, the healing arts is what I call it Metaphysical arts. I once I started working with Reiki. I became attuned to Reiki very shortly after, you know, leaving the treatment center and when I started using Re reiki, that's when I started to have psychic experiences and that was kind of opened the doors, which, from what I was taught back then, is that when you start to use these healing tools or these energetic tools, that it can awaken more abilities. And it did exactly that for me, yeah.

Frank: 16:11

Jesse, this is the first time I've had a full page of notes before I've even asked a question yet.

Lauren: 16:15

So when you started unlocking abilities, was your family like well, of course, like no surprise. Or was it like, oh, I don't know, jesse, like how was that received?

Jesse: 16:49

felt kind of disconnect from my family because I was so different and a lot of my growing into adulthood I still kind of maintained a distance because of a lot of traumas and a lot of experiences in childhood that I wasn't able to navigate yet. And so when I had this experience I was connected with some family members. My aunt, who I spoke about from college, when I was in college she was someone who already had interest in these things. I think she was a Reiki attuned to Reiki at that point. So she was someone who was like cool, awesome, I get it, but other people in my family who didn't have much of an understanding just kind of kept silent. You know, I knew I knew who I could talk to about it and who I couldn't. Um, but what's funny now is I'm I have some family members who you know recently and more recently are awakening to these things and that's kind of cool to watch Coming to you.

Frank: 17:52

Yeah, exactly, there's always an aunt, though. There's always an aunt ready to go.

Lauren: 18:00

I was ready to be like I've been waiting.

Frank: 18:01

Yeah, I've got one.

Lauren: 18:03

Yeah, cece's always ready for you.

Frank: 18:05

Cece's ready to go. So when you were younger, then how did your sensitivities manifest? Did you have some negativity that you had to work through yourself, or what was going on with you?

Jesse: 18:19

What I understand today about people who are empaths or highly sensitive is that our nervous systems are different and we come into this world with a more highly attuned to nervous system. So there's this hyper vigilance that develops in childhood that subsequently can feel like trauma, even if there's lack of nurturing or a lack of emotional connection or stability or things. Is that we, because we're so highly attuned, things that might not feel traumatic to your average Joe are traumatizing to the sensitive nervous system? So and I didn't know that was happening- I was just being me.

Lauren: 19:10

Yeah, two empaths here, both like aha.

Jesse: 19:13

Yeah, so that was a lot of it and you know I was a very isolating kind of child. I just liked to be by myself and so I had trouble connecting with people as I got older and I had, you know, divorce and like that's really traumatic. You know I was about 13 and just a lot of things that accumulated that I had no frame of reference for, even through, you know, traditional therapy. It of reference for even through you know traditional therapy. It wasn't until I met, you know, a shaman and someone who understand, understood more of the nature of of being a sensitive and being an empath, that I could start healing my stuff. That's something.

Frank: 19:59

I'm definitely late to the game on.

Lauren: 20:00

It's still going, that's something I'm definitely late to the game on, I mean that's part of this podcast we started it with like one, how do we develop our stuff and then also part of this process has been like some awakening, some healing, some realizations. Yeah this is our, it's our, it's our clear voyage.

Frank: 20:23

Let me ask you this real quick um, what is your definition, the difference between an empath and a highly sensitive person?

Jesse: 20:31

well, I think they're in some ways both one in the same um. But I think that empath um is someone who naturally needs to attune to their environment or naturally can attune to their environment to create safety, right, I think it's. It's a trauma response, unknowingly right or developed, but at the same time there's a gift in it, because we learn through the hypervigilance to attune to emotions and things in our environment so well that that kind of can cause trouble. But at the same time we also are connected to our environment in a way that most people aren't, so we can feel and sense and connect to things that energetically and have awareness of that. In that respect is sort of a gift, right.

Jesse: 21:29

So growing up that way and stepping into it, I kind of had to separate those things and look at what was running my hypervigilance and trauma as an empath and highly sensitive person. Or you know what's, what's my intuitive spiritual ability, um. And with highly sensitive person, they may not necessarily have that heightened level of empathy to build that sort of connection to their surroundings, but they're aware there's. There's that hypersensitivity to the surroundings that is influencing. Yeah, I don't know.

Lauren: 22:10

No one's put that this way before. That's just like adjusting, adapting to your environment. I'm like, oh yeah, okay.

Jesse: 22:22

Yeah, and it is a lot of people you know, I hear in the HSP community, the empath community. It's a gift and a curse and I think that's kind of what they mean by that. At least that's my experience of it.

Frank: 22:37

Right, right yeah.

Lauren: 22:38

Yeah.

Frank: 22:39

What environments you choose to participate in could define whether it's a gift or a curse.

Lauren: 22:44

Yeah, absolutely.

Frank: 22:45

Yeah, this is true, yeah.

Jesse: 22:47

Very good point.

Frank: 22:49

When I'm editing this later, I'm going to have to rewind the definition.

Lauren: 22:52

Yeah.

Frank: 22:53

And like really think about that because I feel like that would be very helpful to me. I missed that along the way and I think that would have helped me in multiple situations. Same Lauren and I have a tendency to be surrounded by very intense people, and we love them. Lots of Geminis and Capricorns. Capricorns and it's always just like love them to death can sometimes be overstimulated ourselves and then like we get like an emotion hangover or something. I don't know what it is like over the next couple of days.

Jesse: 23:25

Yeah, I'm familiar with that I have one of my really good friends is gemini and very intense he's gotten as he's gotten older. It's toned down to some, but it really was one of those relationships where I had to figure out where my energetic boundaries were in that, because it was a lot a a lot of times overstimulated. Yeah.

Frank: 23:45

Yeah, our daughter's a Capricorn. Both of our dads are Gemini.

Lauren: 23:48

Yeah, um, my brother's a Capricorn, yeah, yeah.

Frank: 23:52

It's a lot. It's a lot.

Lauren: 23:54

Love them all. They're big energies. We love them. Love them to death. Love you guys.

Frank: 23:59

Love you guys. Okay, at what point did you decide to walk away from chemical engineering and do this? Because that's a big shift.

Lauren: 24:11

Yeah.

Jesse: 24:14

Well, once I started having to pay out of pocket I said I'm done. I well, I do have a claim to fame, so to speak, in the science community. So I decided to get out of engineering and move towards natural sciences and so I started studying as a microbiologist instead, and that gave me an opportunity to work in the some of the labs at LSU, and I worked in a genetics research lab and I worked with a professor Dr Brumfield is his name and we did a study in ornithology. After I moved to Austin and everything, I get an email from him and says our paper is actually published in nature journal. So, oh my gosh, I'm coauthored in nature journal as a result of that part of my life.

Frank: 25:13

That's so cool. It wasn't all for nothing, yeah. So then we had to pay for college, and then all the fun was gone.

Jesse: 25:20

Pretty much. And yeah, you're right, and at that time I was looking to not take life so seriously too. So I think that was part of I wanted to play music. I was a drummer. I still play music for myself these days we're musicians.

Frank: 25:38

I have a drum kit right here. Here I've got a very muted cymbal. That's awesome. Man, did you ever put out any like albums or anything when I was?

Jesse: 25:48

in louisiana, um, I guess in my 20s, put out some demos. You know like I played in. I played in an alternative rock band for like five years and nothing really took off. The only thing I ever put out on an album was I ended up making a meditation, guided meditation album. Oh, what's that called? It's called um journey to the healer within um. You can find it on spotify.

Lauren: 26:13

I also have, uh, I have it on band camp as well cool did you find that, like the path of like alcohol and drugs, was more of trying to drown out the sensitivity and like quiet things or just like a product of your environment?

Jesse: 26:33

I'd say a bit of both. I mean, I think anywhere you go, and especially college towns and college age, there's going to be a lot of drinking. Especially college towns and college age, there's going to be a lot of drinking. Louisiana is pretty known for alcohol being a big part of the culture Cajun, creole culture so I think you know that was part of it. But you know, once I realized how self-soothing it was, it was like, oh, that's the answer.

Lauren: 27:07

That's how I kind of toned this down, um, and I think that's what eventually triggered me into, you know, creating that as a a cycle, a pattern, a very strongly developed pattern yeah, because we've talked to some like mediums who have said, like you know the sensitivities that people or kids or teens or whatever feel, if they repress it, sometimes it leads them to the path of like alcoholism or drug abuse or whatever.

Jesse: 27:36

So yeah, yeah, 100, yeah. And it seems also I and share the same path, the same story as a lot. Even other mediums and psychics I've worked with have gone through that, and when they come out of it is when things awaken, you know, like they really kind of step into their gifts.

Lauren: 27:58

So it can be kind of a triggering or a catalyst for that spiritual awakening or that awakening to sensitivity in a new way um, I'm just curious about this, like when you did realize that you, you know you're on your path with, like the awakening, and you suddenly, was it a sudden, like oh, I can connect with spirits also. Like was there a scary part of that? Or just like a hey, that's something.

Jesse: 28:33

Great question. So it was. I took a break from my Reiki practice for a couple of years and I came back to it in 2016. Reiki practice for a couple years and I came back to it in 2016, and at that time I, you know, was taking clients and I had, I think, three clients come in for Reiki sessions back to back, like within a few weeks, and each one of those sessions was I had moments where I started to sense and see and feel spirit in the room. Uh, during the session, and having had some psychic development at the time, I thought, well, that's odd, there's probably something to this, or I'm just crazy, right? Um, what ended up happening was the first time I was sensing a spirit in the room with the client on the table. I was getting some very specific information and I thought maybe that's at least worth it to share what I'm experiencing with the client. And so, after the session, I shared what I was seeing, sensing and feeling about this spirit in the room and they said, yeah, I mean everything you're sharing with me. And I said, oh, okay, so there's something to this.

Jesse: 29:55

But the funny part is and I think sometimes spirit will lead us to that is, the next two sessions back to back. I had very similar experience and two of them were almost identical type spirits like they. It was just a very strange synchronistic encounter. And I did the same thing, you know, with the, the follow-up, the other client. I just shared what I was experiencing and it was all validated. So at that time I said, okay, clearly there's a pattern here and something's happening. So then I developed as a medium. After that there was a medium in my close circle of friends and so she had done a lot of development and was really on the path to mediumship and at that time was doing courses, and so it was it worked out. So I started, I started studying there.

Frank: 30:55

I was going to ask if you had someone who like held your hand through some of those stages.

Jesse: 31:00

Yeah, definitely Having a mentor and taking classes was really helped me just really ground out my mediumship, because at first, when it really because it opened more as I continue to focus on this ability and I was having just a lot of bizarre experiences and encounters and, um, it was just a lot yeah and I needed help trying to navigate this, and so you know, things are more at this point.

Jesse: 31:37

I've developed to a place where it's just kind of a thing now and you know I'm not having these overwhelming experiences and seeing spirits and all that.

Frank: 31:47

So when you want to see like spirit. Are you able to just flip that on, or how does that work?

Jesse: 31:53

Oh, these days I don't. I'm not just like, hey, I want to see. It's not your thing, I would imagine that's not for everybody.

Frank: 31:59

I always talk about that specifically because that's like the most tangible thing. I'm like. I also understand that there's really no benefit in seeing Do you turn on your spirit? Switch. Listen, I grew up with Ghostbusters so I'm always like but can you see them?

Lauren: 32:17

Is Slimer in the room.

Jesse: 32:22

I was like that for a while. I was, I guess, while, yeah, um, I was, I guess, a voyeur of ghosts. Yeah, uh, it's more now like it's my. It's the skillset that I use when people need help, and so that's when I turn that on. You know, someone wants a mediumship sitting and I'll turn it on. Or if I'm in session with maybe a Reiki client or even some of my coaching clients, every now and again I'll get a strong, you know, sense that someone's there and I'll acknowledge that. You know, but it's, it's not.

Frank: 32:58

that doesn't happen as often as it used to. That makes sense. I've heard it's distracting.

Jesse: 33:07

Some people have a problem with it. Yeah, some people. Yeah, um, and I, like I said I did, it was. It was very distracting for a while. Yeah, um, but I guess it. You know I've learned to to control it, setting boundaries. If you haven't heard that, that's the one thing you want to start doing. You know, if you struggle with dealing with that distraction from spirit, hey, like no, you stay over there. You know, if you want to talk to me, you know we'll choose another time to do it, or have someone or not the person you want me to talk to have them come to me oh yeah, it's nice that there's so many people that are teaching mediumship now yeah, especially if it's something that just kind of comes on quick and you're like what do I do with this?

Jesse: 33:56

I mean, yeah, these things can. They can send people to the psych ward, you know, if you really don't have a handle on this and um right yeah, having having access. And you know, there's arthur finley college, which is one of the coolest things in the world. You went there, um, as far as I didn't physically go, but I've studied online with with them you do coaching for?

Lauren: 34:20

is it do you teach mediumship or is it coaching for intuition development? Like what is? Are they the same? I?

Jesse: 34:28

don't know. Yeah, so I do mentoring and coaching. What it seems to be is kind of a lot of the work I'd been doing on myself and healing through and people who may have had similar struggles that I've had, and so a lot of those people in my coaching I'm able to help them heal and grow and transform some of those, the overwhelmed patterns, and you know, the stuff we deal with as as sensitives. Um, and part of that is like some of them really come into their gifts or start to come in to their gifts, and so we get to do both. Um, I have a client I've been working with for quite a while now that we've been I've been doing coaching and mentoring with, and she's a fantastic tarot reader and medium now, and when we started he was a struggling empath, you know.

Lauren: 35:53

Oh my gosh, that's so cool yeah.

Jesse: 35:55

Thanks. Yeah, we've been able to really resolve and clear a lot of that kind of trauma stuff and you know, all those sensitivity things that, the patterns that we pick up and at the same time, you know, get her gifts rolling and it's pretty cool to watch. So I do both. Um, and it really just and yeah, it depends on the client what their needs are Um, yeah, but I offer it all. I am like everything I got. You know, you want to come work with me, you can pick from everything I've got in me.

Frank: 36:32

So what a cool dude. You're a cool dude. Did you know that? Also, like for your, for your history and everything you've like, not only been through but overcome, like you, you you come off as extremely well adjusted, which I could imagine. That's not always the case.

Jesse: 36:57

No, no, it's nice to hear that, um, because in my head I think I'm still not very well isn't that the case, though you've got it I appreciate it. Yeah, that's awesome what you picked. You picked me on a good day. I'll just say that.

Frank: 37:21

The majority of your, your clients, is it mostly do you have? Is it like? Is there something that you tend to lean into more for teaching, or is it really just across the board? I know you said you're a jack of all trades and whatever people need, you just like adjust to them.

Jesse: 37:36

One thing that I've not stopped teaching regularly is energy healing and I, you know, I like to go back to that moment, or those moments I had, you know, in the treatment center, when I had these energetic awakenings.

Frank: 37:54

The Palpatine hands. I remember Palpatine hands. Yeah, as Jesse calls it frequently.

Lauren: 38:00

Yeah, as Jesse calls it frequently.

Frank: 38:01

Yeah.

Lauren: 38:05

You always call it that Sorry.

Jesse: 38:09

That's okay. I it was kind of that feels like that's been a consistent part of my calling through spirit is to offer that tool Because it it was life-changing for me and it still is, when I, when I get to work with people and I love teaching more, more than practicing and, honestly, even though I do both, because the more I teach, the more I understand and learn about what I've been working with for years, you know, over 14 years now.

Frank: 38:43

Yeah, yeah.

Lauren: 38:44

That's cool.

Frank: 38:45

I was going to ask you if, like in your, in your practice, if there are any trends that you see with all this stuff you know, and the presumed interconnectedness of all things. I always wonder if everyone, at this phase of time, needs something specific. Are you asking? I think I am asking. Yeah, was that a question? Yeah, that was a question. My questions come in the form of statements.

Jesse: 39:12

So, if I got this right, is there? Is there some sort of theme that we're all struggling with? Yeah, I know about.

Frank: 39:22

That was very concise you should all struggling with. Yeah, I know, about.

Jesse: 39:25

That was very concise. You should have a podcast. Yeah, that's not. That's not my where I belong. I promise you. Um, I'd say, yeah, there there is a common thread of, uh, of challenge with, I think, most people in the world is that the world we we've been taught is the world we ought to live in, isn't the world you, or you are, you as individuals, should be living in. I don't mean go to another planet, but like who are you as a, as a individual? Um, you know what excites you about life, what, what do you feel like you're here to do, um, outside of the framework of you know the Western culture in particularly, and you know how do you create that for yourself. I feel like a lot of the struggle is there's a dissonance between who we really are and who we are taught to believe we are.

Frank: 40:32

That seems to be a common thread.

Frank: 40:34

Yeah, lauren, and I talk about that all the time, especially in this phase right now, I'm technically between money-making jobs. I'm always finding myself busy and doing, you know, editing and podcasting and stuff like that and Lauren's holding down the fort. But also, like in this time when I've personally this resonates with me what you're saying, because even as a teenager, like though the world of the confines that I was supposed to operate within didn't seem right for me. And now, as an adult, I'm like, oh, I got, I'm established, now I have a mortgage and a full-time job, and now it suddenly, with the um getting into all of this stuff, it's suddenly the box is even smaller, it's smaller than it's ever been for me and I'm like, oh, my God, I got to get out real fast and just try to like live authentically. And I know I'm not the only one, but so many people I'm sure, like you're saying, like the dissonance they're experiencing internally comes from like really trying to be things that we've all been taught that we should be, and it's not quite right.

Jesse: 41:33

Absolutely, and it's, it's unfortunate and I think, I think if you do at least come to that realization for yourself, you're a lucky, lucky one. I don't know that everyone will get that opportunity to experience that in their life, and maybe they get to come back and do it again in a different way in another lifetime.

Jesse: 41:58

But I feel like I agree, you know the way I grew up and everything I was taught just so many things never felt right and I always blamed myself, and so there was a lot of internalizing these things and you know which really wears your self-worth? Yeah, so a lot of I've done a lot of healing and continue to do a lot of healing around that, and that's that's where I experience my freedom as not just a human, but especially as a sensitive um, because I think part of me and that sensitivity is here to create the world I'm meant to live in and not meaning create it so everybody can live in my world, but just so I can be here and have a good life. Yeah, that's all.

Frank: 42:47

Do you feel that you personally have achieved that at this point in your life better than any other point? Yeah, a hundred percent. You know how? I know that, cause that shirt's awesome.

Lauren: 43:01

You're obviously well adjusted, no matter what you think?

Jesse: 43:05

Thank you, yeah, I think a lot of it has been because of the struggles in my life and kind of the path I've chosen that is way outside of the box. I went way on the other end of the outside of the box, sure, and now I'm kind of like, okay, you know I'm not mad at the box and resent the box. It can be there, but I can kind of be over here and still exist in and around it and find a happy medium. Yeah, yeah, yeah, happy medium A podcast.

Lauren: 43:46

By Jesse Prejean.

Frank: 43:52

That's awesome. Yeah, you know like the box has to exist for a reason, and I know that we're in it so that we could learn from it and go through the hard things, so that we can see that there's something on the other side. But the box still sucks and we don't need it all the time it does suck no more box rough in there.

Frank: 44:10

It is rough in there, it's all the gatekeeping it's the people that like maintain the box until you need to be in it. That makes it so hard yeah yeah, so my, my last question is this if you could have like one healing message to all of our listeners, uh, from what you've learned and and what, what would you like to get across to them, man?

Lauren: 44:33

yeah, that's a bit you on the spot, very, very basic very basic, but a little too. What is your healing message for the world?

Frank: 44:41

Everyone is listening, Jesse.

Lauren: 44:45

Or, or a suggestion or tip for someone developing their intuition or trying to overcome sensitivities.

Jesse: 44:55

I can give you a bit of both. Okay, I think a message, that kind of a deep message, maybe a healing message, that, um, something I think about a lot is really asking myself and ask yourself more often than not you know who you really are and you know what you feel like you're you're here to do, and it may not be this grand divine purpose. You know what you feel like you're you're here to do, and it may not be this grand divine purpose, but you know what really makes you feel good inside, what, what makes you feel like you're living your truth, and always ask because I think it's always evolving and changing as we evolve and change, and that's something I continue to come back to and more continues to reveal itself when I sit with that and I allow it to emerge from my being. I think that's what ultimately transforms lives and if you can be with that and sit with that and hear that, that part of yourself more often, so that's my, my healing message. There it is.

Lauren: 46:03

I mean for the masses. That's a solid one.

Frank: 46:07

I mean, it's such a lesson to like. Allow I always, I always try to remember to. You have to allow yourself and the people around you to evolve and change and support them on that journey. Yeah, like the second, you just like that. We don't like the confines of of society. The box, like you, can also box yourself in and live, live, live in the box to the best of your ability and then find yourself 10 years later completely miserable that you did everything right.

Lauren: 46:32

Yeah. I'm trapped in a glass cage of emotion.

Frank: 46:38

Milk was a bad choice.

Lauren: 46:50

Um of emotion, milk was a bad choice. Um, okay, references, yes, we've got them all day. Yeah, um, we will link all your, all your social media things and your website and your music.

Frank: 46:55

Yeah, yeah, give us all your plugs. Say it out loud so they can, the people can hear, yeah, sure.

Jesse: 47:01

So, um, my name is Jesse Prejean. I'm a spiritual coach, teacher and psychic medium. Um, my website is jesseprejeancom. I'm on Instagram at JP underscore intuitive, underscore healing. I'm also on Facebook. I'm not as active on there, but come check out my Instagram. No one is. Yeah, it's old news now. And yeah, I have.

Jesse: 47:29

I have an album of guided meditations. If you like guided meditation and want to learn some some kind of energetic practices while you meditate, it's called journey to the healer within. You can buy a copy on band camp which gives you unlimited downloads and streaming, and it's also available on Spotify so you can check that out. Yeah, I do. I still offer session work for psychic, tarot readings, mediumship, energy healing and what I call intuitive healing, which is along the lines of how I show up for my coaching clients. So a bit of that is like the coaching aspect of helping you really tune in and discover who you are and bring that out.

Jesse: 48:18

But I do it in a very intuitive way. I use my gifts to support the process and, yeah, so I do offer coaching long-term 30 and 90 day programs. If you're interested in that, you can book a free consultation with me. I love to just kind of connect with people, see where they're at and see if I can help them and how I can help them along their journey of awakening and healing. That's, I feel like I'm here to do that in some capacity, and so I continue to offer it. Cool, if you're in Austin, yeah, come see me in person, all right Amazing.

Lauren: 48:57

Thank you for spending some time with us and telling All right Amazing.

Frank: 49:03

Thank you for spending some time with us and telling giving us some new realizations.

Jesse: 49:06

today we're going to have a powwow later and it's. There may be tears, I don't know, maybe. So I hope there are, because it's a sign of healing and growth.

Lauren: 49:13

Yeah, yeah.

Frank: 49:15

Jesse. Thank you so much, man. We'll talk to you soon and good luck with everything. Sounds great. Yeah, thanks, jesse. All right, see you, buddy, so much man, we'll talk to you soon, and good luck with everything.

Jesse: 49:22

Sounds great. Yeah, thanks, jesse. Stay in touch. All right, see you buddy.

Frank: 49:25

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