Cake Therapy
Ella Stewart Bakes a Path to Well-being
When life hands you lemons, you can either make lemonade or, as Ella Stewart of Bake Well Being shows us, you can bake a lemon drizzle cake that not only satisfies your sweet tooth but soothes your soul. Our latest Cake Therapy podcast episode features Ella, who candidly shares her transformative journey from baking cakes as a youngster to coaching others on finding refuge and resilience in the kitchen. Her passion for sweet treats has evolved into a beacon of hope for many, illustrating the enchanting nexus of confectionery and comfort.
Ella's inception of 'Baked Well Being' is nothing short of a fairy tale baked to perfection, and this episode peels back the layers of her story. We sprinkle in practical advice for fostering self-esteem in the face of the often distorted mirror of social media, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and carving out personal havens. As Ella preps for her engaging mindful meals discussion on Kitch, we're reminded that food is not just about sustenance but about the stories we share, the comfort we crave, and the calm we create. Join us for this heartwarming episode where we celebrate the restorative essence of a good bake.
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When life hands you lemons, you can either make lemonade or, as Ella Stewart of Bake Well Being shows us, you can bake a lemon drizzle cake that not only satisfies your sweet tooth but soothes your soul. Our latest Cake Therapy podcast episode features Ella, who candidly shares her transformative journey from baking cakes as a youngster to coaching others on finding refuge and resilience in the kitchen. Her passion for sweet treats has evolved into a beacon of hope for many, illustrating the enchanting nexus of confectionery and comfort.
Ella's inception of 'Baked Well Being' is nothing short of a fairy tale baked to perfection, and this episode peels back the layers of her story. We sprinkle in practical advice for fostering self-esteem in the face of the often distorted mirror of social media, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and carving out personal havens. As Ella preps for her engaging mindful meals discussion on Kitch, we're reminded that food is not just about sustenance but about the stories we share, the comfort we crave, and the calm we create. Join us for this heartwarming episode where we celebrate the restorative essence of a good bake.
Remember to subscribe wherever you get your podcast. Share the episodes and let's chat in the comments.
Support the Cake Therapy Foundation:
1. Cake Therapy - Cake Therapy (thecaketherapyfoundation.org)
2 Buy Me A Coffee : The Cake Therapy Foundation (buymeacoffee.com)
3. Buy The Book: Cake Therapy: How Baking Changed My Life https://a.co/d/76dZ5T0
Follow Sugarspoon Desserts on all social media platforms @sugarspoondesserts
Welcome to the Cake Therapy podcast a slice of joy and healing, with your host, Dr Altricia Foster. This is a heartwarming and uplifting space that celebrates the transformative power of baking therapy. The conversations will be a delightful blend of inspirational stories, expert insights and practical baking tips. Each episode will take listeners on a journey of self-discovery, emotional healing and connection through the therapeutic art of baking. There's something here for everyone, so lock in and let's get into it.
Speaker 2:Hi everyone, welcome back to the Cake Therapy podcast. I'm here to share with you your slice of joy and healing. I'll let you know who that is shortly. I'm excited that you guys are able to join us today. Today, we're here in for a treat, right? You're in for a slice of something sweet in this space today. So I'm excited to introduce to you no other than Miss Ella Stewart from Bakewell being. She is joining us today.
Speaker 2:So, ella, I've been watching Ella for a while since she busted out. I said she burst on the scene talking about mindfulness, talking about food and sweets and desserts, and I wanted you, or guest or listeners, to learn more about her and the work that she's doing. So who is Ella? Let me tell you a quick background about Ella who's joining us. She's the owner of Bakewell being. Bakewell being. She takes self-care and creative coaching to a new level. Believe me, when you follow Ella, you will see she takes this thing up a notch. Her method uses a combination of creative and her learning experience to improve the mental health of the people that she interacts with. Unlike Cake Therapy, we are promoting health and mindfulness through baking. So welcome Ella. I'm really excited about having you here today.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much. It's an absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you for that lovely introduction as well.
Speaker 2:You're welcome. Do you see how excited I am about talking to you? Finally, you know I've been watching you work in this space. I've been watching you do the hard work of bringing people along through mindfulness and baking, and we're both so passionate about this type of work and I want to say from one baker to the next, one mindfulness person in this sphere to the next, that I appreciate the work that you're doing for the community and I'm happy that you decided to join us today.
Speaker 3:Thank you. That really means a lot to me. Honestly, a lot of this work has been, you know, kind of on the sidelines. It's been a bit of a side hustle. It's been a social project of mine, but to hear you recognise them things, I find that really really affirming. So thank you for that.
Speaker 2:Hoovers, of course we're happy to have you. So you know you do this work and I can see why you do the work. I can see how the work really moves you. But I want you to share with our guest today, who is Ella, like what got you to this place?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I mean it's quite a story. I mean, baking has been a hobby for me since I was probably from. About three or four is when I started to bake and I was introduced to the hobby through my grandma and it was an activity that we did together from a very, very young age. Of course, when I was about three or four I was only really contributing by like licking the spoon and, you know, finishing up at the end, but I felt like I was fully involved and integrated into the process. I then had a Saturday job as a shop assistant in a cake shop and really got to see kind of the behind the scenes of like the magic of baking and creating when it comes to cakes and started up a little you know cake baking side hustle business just making cupcakes and birthday cakes their friends and family, and it was through that I really understood the reward you know, the achievement based factors that you can get from this hobby.
Speaker 3:And that's when it became more of like an obsession than a hobby. You know, I was just reaping all those, those happy hormones from every bake that I did.
Speaker 3:I think where that merge into kind of like a purposeful driven, kind of social mission type thing right, is when my, my nan, who I started baking with, went through a quite a severe breakdown and that did lead her to being institutionalised.
Speaker 3:I was quite young then still, you know, and I really saw, you know, going in to see her in the ward, I really saw firsthand what mental illness, the power of mental illness you know, for an individual but also for everybody around them.
Speaker 3:And yeah, I think that's where I came to realize that your self-care strategies, your, you know, your well-being, your work on, you know, emotional resilience, All of this is so important in an individual, in every individual, because we all have mental health. And I did a bit of self-work at that point, you know, I realized I do have a, you know family history of mental ill health and me and my sister, sort of from quite a young age, thought, well, you know, this is in the family line, so we'd best be doing some things now to kind of help protect us from what could possibly be inevitable. And it was then that I realized that the baking, that hobby, that grounding technique, that you know, that skill-based activity. That was my self-care, that was my coping strategy, yeah, and it was just there that I thought these two things go hand in hand.
Speaker 3:It's just like your art therapy or your dance therapy or your music therapy you know it's a new space in that kind of creative therapy and world, but I mean you'll know, just like I do, that it is just as powerful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely, absolutely agree with you on that. I've seen and I've felt. You know how baking has definitely changed my life and I tell the stories in this book, cake Therapy, how Baking Changed my Life. I talk about my own personal journey and you know the reconnection of baking helped me reconnect with my thoughts and feelings. So I do definitely agree that you know there is a healing power in baking and it's good to hear you talk about it from a standpoint of where it evolved. You know, baking with your nan to where she became ill, to using that as a way to cope, which is really really good. I've read where you stated that you believe that baking has healing powers. Baking for our well-being provides additional elements of practical skill. It enhance your sense of achievement. It boosts your self-esteem and engages your neural reward system. How does it do that? Talk about how baking does that for you and how is baking improve your self-esteem and how it engages your reward system.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, absolutely, I mean, as I say, from kind of the first cake that I I think it was cupcakes I started off with and the first batch of cupcakes I made for a birthday.
Speaker 3:It was for my niece's friend's birthday party. It was a Minnie Mouse themed party and I did. You know the red buttercream with the white dots and the little oreos sticking out. I was about 13 at the time and I genuinely felt that it was one of the best things that I'd ever made. You know, it was pretty simple at the time. You know, in comparison to the things that I've made now and also the things that everybody else has made in this, you know incredibly creative space and industry.
Speaker 3:But I just remember feeling so proud, like such pride in that piece that I had made from scratch.
Speaker 3:You have to remember that when we start with things where it's literally a blank canvas and then we create something from that, I just think there's nothing better than that. There's nothing more incredible than creating something out of a bunch of random ingredients or decorations or you know whatever else. And it was just so heartwarming to take these fakes that I'd made you know love, time, attention, care been put into this and take that to someone's birthday party and just to feel really appreciated, to feel that that effort was really appreciated. And I remember the look on the little girl's face, his birthday it was, and you know, then everyone shared them round and everyone took a moment to just be together and we sang Happy Birthday, we put candles in it, brought the whole room together and everyone got to share that moment over my baked goods.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's community building, it's indulging, it's treating yourself in many ways. It's challenging, you know, it's a challenge, and the learning aspects of baking is endless. I mean, I know you know as well as I do we've been baking for years and years but we've never done everything. We've never done everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we could never do anything. We could never.
Speaker 3:So it's just that opportunity to continually learn through this activity and then, as you go, your skills develop, you challenge yourself further, you try new things, and I think it's that that improves our self-esteem. Yeah, we're tackling those little new challenges every so often, and every time we have something to show for it and if and there have been occasions where I have created something that is completely inedible- I will still. I'll still get a learning lesson out of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. Is it in those moments as you are baking and as you are seeing yourself esteem rising? Is it then that you were able to start recognizing the community that lives in that, the communion that your baked goods brought on? So that leads me to asking you is it out of that that baked well-being was born? Like how, tell me a little bit more how baked well-being was born? What's the genesis of baked well-being?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I think I kind of had this idea. You know, as I said, through the process of my nan becoming unwell and you know, just my own kind of journey of recognizing where my mental health was and feeling like I needed to probably take some precautions, maybe more so than the average, average individual. I think I always knew that baking was part of my mental health toolkit. You know it was part of my self-care strategy, right, but it actually the whole concept came about in a conversation with with my partner. I was in the third year of university and he was sort of asking me what's next for you? You know what's post uni? This was before the pandemic had kicked off and I was doing events management at a university. So little did I know that there would be no events come with my graduation.
Speaker 3:You know that whole industry is going to come to a grinding halt. I didn't even know that at the time. But I thought you know what's next for me, I'm not sure. We had this conversation one evening and I was talking about how I'd love to work for myself one day. I'd love to do something that I feel really matters and you know, I love to bake, and these were all things that came up in the conversation. And he said to me as he knows that I've been a mental health advocate, you know, for a very, very long time, right, and he he sort of just said well, it's cupcake therapy, I think. And I was like I don't know if it is, but I'm sure that I'm going to try and make it, I think Like that is a brilliant idea. So essentially, it was all his idea and I just ran away with it. So you should have trademarked it when you had the chance.
Speaker 3:So I ran away with that and then we are. We are still together, so hopefully he will reap some benefits from it one day. But yeah, so that's kind of where where it came about. And then a few weeks later I got an email from my university saying there's an enterprise challenge. Have you got a business idea?
Speaker 3:That was the like the line in the email heading, and I thought actually, just so happens, I think I did go after that conversation last week. So I went through that process process I applied with this idea. I was then put into six weeks of workshops. So I don't know the first thing about business honestly I really don't, but these workshops were really helpful. You know, creating this seed idea and turning it into a business plan, yeah. So then it went through pitching stages and I was really lucky enough to get to the final where I pitched in front of judges, a panel of judges, and I won for the social category and I was entitled to some funding. So at that point I was like, okay, we've got to make this happen now.
Speaker 3:Yeah they're gonna. They're gonna ask me what I spent that money on, and it's got to be to do with establishing this idea. So I then graduated pretty much into the start of the pandemic, which was a blessing and a curse, Obviously. It then gave me months to focus on nothing but fake well being, you know, and that's what I did. And I took to the Instagrams and I I took to the Facebook groups and started making content and building connections and creating communities in different spaces and started a baking group, a baking club which did really well in the lockdowns, had people joining that, you know, internationally, just baking along monthly, and I was sending out some resources on a different kind of topic each month, and it really has just kind of grown from there.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good, because that's how I met you, right? Yeah those invitations and the connections and the community that you were building on Instagram. That's when I first started learning about break well being, because at the same time, our foundation was just forming as well.
Speaker 2:So we were we were pretty young right at the start of the pandemic, so I love that we were able to converge over those those things. Well, what I found to be unique and exciting is that you use baking as a positive coping strategy for women in London, and our mission has is similar. Right, I'm using baking as an outlet, a healing tool or outlet for women and girls in the States who've been impacted by the justice system. So when you think of baking and mental health, we see a unique convergence, because you and I know that this has been a really. It's a fact that it helps us to stabilize our moods. Stabilize, helps us to go through the days, right. What I wanted to really touch on here why do you target women in London or do you? What's your real, what's your target audience here for bake well being, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:And girls. I would say that these are the demographics that have gravitated towards the project. So I put a lot of stuff out there and just hope that it hits a nerve with something that connects to some people. And it turns out from everything that I have put out there that women and girls from the ages of around 18 to probably around 55. So it's quite a large age demographic and this age range have actively wanted to be involved in the initiatives that I have.
Speaker 3:I've kind of, I've put on and I've put out there. So, in terms with my business mind on which, you know, I still don't really know loads about, but with my business head on I go, these are the people that are seeking this out, they're seeking this work and these initiatives. So I will open my arms and I will bring them in and I will focus everything I do on what they need and what they want. But then, for example, you know I've had a corporate company come to me, last month actually, and asked me to put together some recorded content specifically on men's mental health, you know, for male mental health awareness month, month of November, and I said, sure, you know absolutely, if that's what you need, I can do that for you, anything to get people talking, baking and eating cake for their mental health.
Speaker 3:But it does so happen. I think, as I'm sure you've probably seen in the work that you've done as well, that there is something about you know the activity of baking and cooking and maybe it just comes from gender stereotypes and you know gender expectations that it seems that that connects with women more than it does men. But you know, I've had some conversations with some male mental health awareness groups and we've thought about putting on some male baking initiatives to get men in the kitchen and to get men comfortable with wearing the apron and, you know, getting their wooden spoons out, and I'd be very open to that as well when the time's right. But yeah, typically I find that it is women that are mostly interested in the things I'm doing.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it makes sense that you would promote it as thus for now, but it's good to be open minded because, like I do, I love the wave I'm going to call it a wave where men are beginning to share. You know their feelings a little bit more openly, and I, too, have had, like male groups contacted us about baking beers, like in Minnesota, where I live, there is a male baking group who's reached out. They bake every weekend Awesome, yeah. So I can't wait to dive into, like a deep dive into the work that they are doing, to see how that's working for them, but I do.
Speaker 2:What the data does show, though, is that traditional forms of therapy, the things that, because we tend to aggregate the data with boys and girls in terms of mental health and how we respond to it, but if we disaggregated the data, it shows that women require more vocational hands on tools to respond to their trauma. So maybe that's where this whole vocational aspect of baking, painting, even reading, may have some impact. I would love to find out from you like to share a time with our audience where I know you talked about. You know with your grandmother and her illness and stuff, where you're. So I'm asking for another time, another story where you've connected with yourself and baking has helped you to lead through. You know the challenge that you've experienced.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. I mean I've had my walk down. You know I wouldn't call it necessarily mental illness, I've never been diagnosed with a mental illness but I have definitely had my walk with very inadequate mental health. You know, this was actually towards the end of 2021.
Speaker 3:So this is about two years into my work of establishing Bakewell being, and you know talking about the well-being benefits of baking and I at this point I'd done my wellness and resilience coach diploma, so I was a qualified coach. I'd done my mental health first aid training and my mental health really deteriorated at that time. There were many factors involved in that, but it led to really severe anxiety and panic attacks on a daily basis. Yeah, and this lasted for about five or six months and I also had CBT cognitive behavioural therapy during that time, which I feel really really helped me throughout that process. But what I found was that during that time in my life I really started to practice what I had been preaching to everyone.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do know what I mean, yeah, I was like, oh, okay, so I need to vote for my well-being, like properly, and I just found that I went inwards. I went into my kitchen. You know it was a time where leaving my house or doing my daily activities, like getting the train to work, was triggering anxiety attacks for me. So it meant that I spent a little bit more time at home and I spent a little bit more time in my kitchen and I stopped doing it for Bake Well being. You know, if that makes sense, I stopped creating the content and every time I baked, I wasn't doing it for the social project, yeah, I was really doing it for me. And where my mind was at the time and I think what the key part of that was in kind of tackling the symptoms that I was experiencing at that time with anxiety and panic was the mindfulness, the grounding experience of baking. You know it's like the only activity that engages all five senses at the same time, absolutely.
Speaker 1:You know the only one.
Speaker 3:And I will know and many, many of us will, who have experienced anxiety and panic attacks that one of the first things someone will ask you is when you're in like high blown, you know high functioning, you know like big time anxiety. They will ask you what can you hear, what can you taste, what can you smell, can you see? Yeah, to ground yourself back into that present moment. And of course, it's the present moment where we know that we are saying and we are surviving.
Speaker 3:And it takes you out of those anxiety ridden places, time periods, the past and the future, and it really just brings you back into that moment. And baking and cooking and those activities that we do in the kitchen is the only activity that engages all five at the same time, so it's a sensory overload you know, there's no time, there's no space to be about the next moment or thinking about.
Speaker 3:You know the consequences of yesterday. Absolutely, you are just completely immersed and I really started baking a lot with dough specifically. So I was doing my cookies, I was doing my breads, I was doing my pastries and I just found that that, even more so, immersed my touch sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And you know, cookies are great because you can eat that cookie dough as you go, absolutely you don't even have to wait.
Speaker 2:You don't even have to wait, so share with us what's one of the biggest and most valuable lessons that you've learned since you started doing this work, since in 2019.
Speaker 3:I think I think one of the most important things that I have learned and that I try to share with every person I come into contact with when we talk about mental health and mental ill health, is that mental health is not just the absence of mental illness To be our optimal mental health is not just about not being mentally ill. It's a whole realm of other factors, and I think there is a lot of stigma still, of course, around the topic of mental ill health, and I know that there's a lot of people myself was one of them thinking I haven't been diagnosed with a mental illness so.
Speaker 3:I must be mentally healthy. Well, I mean, I tell you at that time period, at the end of 2020, thriving, I was just surviving, I'd say at that time in my life. Even the World Health Organization I've read a lot of their work on stress and mental health and defining these things they say that our optimal mental health is, additionally, the presence of a flourishing self-esteem, being able to contribute to our communities, having purpose and feeling purpose for in our lives All these other things. That is not just the absence of mental illness. So I think it's really important to remember there may be so the statistics say in the UK anyway, that one in four will experience a mental illness at some time in the course of the year, but there are three in four that still have a mental health that needs to be nurtured and protected and maintained. And I think for that three in four, they can sort of really overlook their mental health because they're like well, I'm not mentally ill, so I'm sort of fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. You know that both our foundation or organizations focus on the upliftment of women and girls and I couldn't have you leave us without sharing, sharing some of your tips. What are some of the tips that you have for girls? As they're listening, what's your message to these girls?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think, having been a young girl myself not too long ago and I work with a lot of students, my daytime is my day job is I work in a school and I work with a lot of young people and a lot of young girls. I think, now more than ever, comparison is a killer of self-esteem, of self-worth, of motivation, and it doesn't help that social media and AI and filters are taking over the world. You know young people's self-confidence and self-worth and valuing ourselves and our uniqueness and all the things that make us individuals Right. It's such a difficult one because we're going to be constantly fighting against the uprising of all the things that lead to that comparison with social media.
Speaker 3:I think, going inward and understanding what what you're passionate about not what the influences are passionate about and not what you know your friends put out on their social media that they're, you know to everybody else that they're passionate about, but what genuinely makes you tick and what is your safe space, what is your? Where your belly is gets fiery, you know, and doing everything you can to involve that more in your daily life, for you and not for your Instagram yeah, I think that's a really good place to start, and then I think, once and young girls especially start to immerse themselves in that more and more, there is, you know, chance for them to become more authentic beings and themselves more authentically. And I think, once you're comfortable with that, that's when your self-confidence grows and it just, it just grows out of control because you're not doing it for anybody else, you're doing it for you and who you are. You know, I actually read a, I pulled a card. Yesterday evening.
Speaker 3:I was with some really wonderful women and we were doing kind of a wellness women's on a Wednesday chat and I pulled this card and it actually relates really nicely to what I'm just saying and it was let's see if I can remember it that tension, you know, the feeling of tension in the body, in the mind, physical, mental, emotional and tension is who we think we should be and relaxation is who we are yeah, you know yeah, yeah, and I thought you know what that's.
Speaker 3:That's so, so true. You know, I feel at my most relaxed and at my most centered and at my most calm when I am doing me authentically. Yeah, and for me that is when I'm in the bait, when I'm in the kitchen, when I'm baking a hair scrape back looking at me I've got my Frank Sinatra on in the background. Yeah, yeah, my authentic me, okay, and I think that if everyone can connect with whatever they're, their authentic them is a little bit more, especially young girls, because of the way the world is now, with comparison and you know everyone putting out their best selves and their you know their best filtered face.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think we've got to fight back against that. I don't know if that's going to change outwardly. I don't think it is. I think it's only going to get worse with the way technology is going, but we've got to fight it inwardly, if that makes any sense yeah, of course, collectively, we all have to do the work to help the girl recognize or learn how to to be her most authentic self, because it is then that she'd be more relaxed.
Speaker 2:And one fun fact we learned about Ella guys today that she loves Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3:I love Frank Sinatra my girl.
Speaker 2:Do you now so, would you say then a combination of baking and music is equals to Ella's best self oh yeah, 100%, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I just love, you know, shutting the kitchen door and just shutting myself away from from the rest of the outside world, and I can do that for hours on end when I'm baking or cooking yeah, yeah, come on. No, I was about to say like I describe it for me as a stillness, yeah, stillness that it brings when you're in your own space yeah, absolutely, and it's you know, it's something that the majority of us are lucky to have in our own homes, that that safe space is right there yeah in our homes and, yeah, you know, we've not got to spend thousands on it.
Speaker 3:There's all this right there, you know flower, exactly a little bit of sugar and a little bit of Sinatra.
Speaker 2:I know exactly. So tell us. Tell us what's next for Ella. Yeah, tell us what's next. What do you have, you know?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I've got a few fun things coming up. Actually I am. I've got a really great conversation coming up on Kitch. We're doing a mindful meals kind of culinary arts and mindfulness discussion and with some really Interesting individuals that are very much on the same wave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I see the line up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, we're definitely all kind of in this, in this movement together, and I was approached to join that conversation and I'm really, really looking forward to it. I really value the perspectives of these individuals and Everyone comes with an interesting flair and personal and professional experience. Yeah, kind of in this realm. And so that's gonna be on the 29th of October, which is 5 pm Like the universal time, so that obviously changes because we're is an international conversation.
Speaker 2:I know yeah.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, the idea from that is that we'll have some really key players within the space, like yourself and a few others that are kind of across the globe and that are in in the similar, in the similar space. We'd love to and we'll be sending out some invites to you guys, so yours would be on its way To come and watch that and be there and be in the room and then we hope to have that as the kind of starting point for a bit of a collective where you know, we can all Support each other's work and collaborate, and community building Exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love that yeah at the end of the month I'm gonna be a retreat in Valencia with a really, really cool company and organization called house of vogue. So they they merge vogue and the music and the fashion of vogue in with yoga, the practice. Oh, it's so cool, it's yeah, and I'll be going along to the retreat to do the, the mindful meals and doing a kind of mindfulness in the kitchen session and get everybody baking some kind of protein bars and Kind of healthy snacks.
Speaker 2:I love that kind of fit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So I'm really looking forward to that. And then 2024 will hopefully bring the launch of Um some coaching programs, so I really want to focus on the coaching next year and our conference plan. Yes, exactly, thanks, that's clean. Yeah so we've got all those really fun things coming up, um, and yeah, it's, it's all just very exciting I know, I'm very excited, um, you know it.
Speaker 2:There's value in In hearing from you, there's value in in watching you work, and and there's value in in the work that you do. So tell our guests where they could find you.
Speaker 3:You can find me across all the socials, at bake Well being. Um, I'm mostly active on instagram, but I am trying to get on that tick tock. I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying. So tick tock will be having a bit of focus over the next kind of few months and, um, and I've also got some baking tutorials up on youtube again, just bake well being. So if you fancy baking along and and you know Giving this baking thing ago then you can follow along with some of my baking classes. Um, over there We've got some really easy, moderate and kind of challenging bakes, um, but hopefully, you know, uh, really easy to just follow along with from our own homes.
Speaker 2:And how easy was this conversation for us today to follow along and to enjoy our little slice of joy and healing. It really has been a pleasure to have you on, ella. I know that you and I would be connecting post this, but just so that our guests and our listeners can hear from the people who are, who influence me in the space, who I listen and watch and I who helps me grow and I was I'm super excited that you decided to join me today and, um, I look forward to more conversations with you.
Speaker 3:So do I. I'm really excited for the things that we're going to do together and it's um, you know, I'm really honored to be recognized by, by you and and your foundations and and what you have have have grown into, you know, a renowned Too, very renowned um. You know, uh, Foundations and it's it's really really exciting to um have had. You know, I literally did a happy dance when I got your email.
Speaker 2:The feeling is mutual because I did the happy dance when you said yes, and you've always said yes, um so I'm really excited. I this has been a great conversation, um so, thank you so much. I know so you. So this is the cake therapy podcast. I hope that you've enjoyed your slice of joy and healing today with Ella Stewart from Bake WellBeing. Thank you for joining us, ella. Thank you.
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