Navigating the emotional minefield of co-parenting with a bitter ex can often feel like a journey without a map. My guest Mona pulls back the curtain on this very personal struggle, sharing the raw challenges she encounters as old resentments from youth taint her current co-parenting efforts. We also hear a heart-wrenching account from another guest whose partner grapples with the pain of being kept at a distance from his child. With JT providing an external viewpoint, we focus on the importance of shedding past bitterness for the sake of our children's futures.
The ripple effects of divorce extend far beyond the couple—it reshapes the emotional world of their children. In a candid narrative, we hear from a woman attempting to navigate a civil post-divorce relationship while balancing her children's divergent feelings towards their father's absence and presence. The introduction of new partners into this delicate equation highlights the need for clear boundaries and ongoing dialogue to preserve stability for the young ones. The conversation also turns to the critical, yet often overlooked, influence of extended family members in providing support and filling voids left by absent parents.
Finally, we steer the conversation towards the intricate balance required when introducing new romantic interests into the lives of children. It's a candid exploration of the delicate dynamics at play, from confronting the infamous 'crazy baby daddies' to adjusting to children who have grown into adulthood. We also tackle the stormy seas of "baby mama drama," underlining the essential pillars of trust, respect, and clear boundaries that are needed to maintain harmony within the intertwined worlds of co-parenting and new relationships. Join us for a raw look at the modern family landscape, where navigating these relationships takes more than just good intentions—it takes wisdom, courage, and a whole lot of patience.
Navigating the emotional minefield of co-parenting with a bitter ex can often feel like a journey without a map. My guest Mona pulls back the curtain on this very personal struggle, sharing the raw challenges she encounters as old resentments from youth taint her current co-parenting efforts. We also hear a heart-wrenching account from another guest whose partner grapples with the pain of being kept at a distance from his child. With JT providing an external viewpoint, we focus on the importance of shedding past bitterness for the sake of our children's futures.
The ripple effects of divorce extend far beyond the couple—it reshapes the emotional world of their children. In a candid narrative, we hear from a woman attempting to navigate a civil post-divorce relationship while balancing her children's divergent feelings towards their father's absence and presence. The introduction of new partners into this delicate equation highlights the need for clear boundaries and ongoing dialogue to preserve stability for the young ones. The conversation also turns to the critical, yet often overlooked, influence of extended family members in providing support and filling voids left by absent parents.
Finally, we steer the conversation towards the intricate balance required when introducing new romantic interests into the lives of children. It's a candid exploration of the delicate dynamics at play, from confronting the infamous 'crazy baby daddies' to adjusting to children who have grown into adulthood. We also tackle the stormy seas of "baby mama drama," underlining the essential pillars of trust, respect, and clear boundaries that are needed to maintain harmony within the intertwined worlds of co-parenting and new relationships. Join us for a raw look at the modern family landscape, where navigating these relationships takes more than just good intentions—it takes wisdom, courage, and a whole lot of patience.
Speaker 1:
Hello, I'm Tony. I'm the host of the bougie buy you witches podcast and today we'll be talking about bitter baby moms and dads, and this is my co-host and my the guest, alright. So today we're gonna be talking about a very important topic. I feel bitter baby moms and dads and I'm pretty sure we don't experience or maybe been through it not all, but some of us, you know, majority of us, and also, I'm so sorry, y'all.
Speaker 2:
This is my other guest JT, you're the building, alright, so?
Speaker 1:
again. Today we're gonna be talking about bitter baby moms and dads, and I'm gonna go ahead and start off with Mona tell us what is your experience on these bitter baby daddies?
Speaker 3:
So I have a bitter baby daddy so I could go on and on on this subject, but I could be sure. But no, I have, you know, with my kids father. You know we went through a lot. You know with them growing up and you know we've been through a lot and you know he still hold like a lot of negative feelings towards me and still to this present. You know it shows I have to talk to the kids a certain way or else he'll have something to say. And yet he always hold my past over me when we were together. You know I wasn't the best person in a relationship. You know I did a lot of immature things, a lot of challenges things.
Speaker 3:
But also we got together when I was 15, 16 years old so he just held a lot of that so dear to him to where I'm changing my life and still changing. It's like he don't know how to accept that. He don't want to accept that he thinks I'm still that 15, 16 year old girl from the past. So you know, he just beary, not when we talk and have conversations. I tell him let it go right, let it go. He don't know how. Okay, he don't know how to let it go and what about you?
Speaker 1:
why?
Speaker 4:
I don't have children, but my husband does have one son and the mother is bitter and yeah, she does. She made it very hard. We didn't find out about the child until years later, that he was even his. But she made it very, very hard and it got to the point that we don't even see his son.
Speaker 4:
So it's been about two years that we haven't had any communication, because the way we set it up through the legal system is that he she always had to be there and she's always too busy and I'm sorry to say it, but it's. She is one of those women that have multiple baby daddy's, so she's not reliable and she made things very, very hard for my husband and it's something that hurts me because it hurts him and like I've actually seen him, you know, break down and cry and say I miss my son. I want to have my son with me, but so are there other methods or avenues?
Speaker 4:
he can go to intervene and you know no because he had the child was was born very, very sick and he, he will be disabled like for life. So we just chose that it would be better for the child to stay with the mother. What you know why mess something up for the son for the day that, yet for his son, and put him in a situation where he wouldn't be comfortable and wouldn't understand, like, what's going on. So we just, okay, she doesn't want to give us the okay to see him, then we're not gonna push it, we're not gonna drive that little boy down and be like, no, we're gonna fight, fight, fight, fight, like so we keep cards of Christmas and for his birthday and stuff like that. So if he ever does decide to reach out and look for his father, that he does have that like, hey, you, you are remembered and you were remembered every year, right, okay?
Speaker 1:
what about you, jt?
Speaker 2:
so I don't have any kids, okay, but I do. You know, I have experienced a bitter baby mama's and I have also experienced from the other side, like I said, just family members. You know, I kind of see like a, how bitter baby deadies can be too okay, so yeah honestly, I think they're kind of just them from personal issues, honestly yes yeah yeah, you can get hold a grudge, like I said.
Speaker 3:
It's 20 years later and I'm still dealing with stuff with my kids far I'm asking him like let it go, because I can't hold a conversation with him without him bringing something up from the past but you remember you did this to me. Yeah, shouldn't be that way. Right, it's gotta learn how to let that go as humans, as I was just gonna talk chocolate.
Speaker 2:
As a man, if you're a real man, you're not gonna harbor own things from the past right especially if you have kids with a woman, I feel like you should be willing to make stuff work for the kids. It's not nothing to do with what happened between you and that other individual. It should be about your kids right bitterness shouldn't even be there that's right.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, well, me, I'm gonna be honest, me and my son's father, my second son's father yeah, he used to be very bitter. It was days. I remember Collin Paul complaining about him. But he actually has really changed like we can actually talk, be in the same area and be cool, be cordial and other words. But back in the days I was cussing him and I'm sorry, I know he was a passer, but he got every cuss word that could come out my mouth because I just was. He was, you know, still stuck in his old ways and I was just wishing he changed. He eventually did. You know how long did it take him to get to that point, man, I would say by the time my son was probably about a good teenager.
Speaker 1:
We started being more cordial and stuff like that, and he even came to me and apologized and I was just like yeah, he apologized for the way he acted during our marriage and stuff like that, and I forgave him and stuff like that and accepted it, the apology.
Speaker 4:
Do you think that affected your kids though?
Speaker 1:
Yes, it affected my young son because he really wanted us together, but I was the one that pulled away because I was tired of it. Plus, my oldest son was tired of it and he was like you better not go back to him. I was like, oh no, don't worry, I'm not, I don't worry, I'm listening, you know. So I would say my oldest son, because I have two boys. My oldest would be 24 next month and my youngest is 18. And my oldest son me and his father, we'd be communicating still to this day. I mean, that's my dog, he's cool, you know, and his girl no, because, again, we're cool. She's not an insecure female. She knows I don't want him. I told her to her face I don't want him anymore. But I don't have a problem communicating and talking to him because, yes, he's my son, father, and if anything ever happened he needs to reach out or he needs to know something, I'm gonna communicate and talk to him. And I just spoke to him yesterday and I told him tell your girlfriend.
Speaker 3:
I said hello and you know he was like, okay, that's what it's face to be and that's my dream and my prayer every day for me and my kids' father to get to that point. But he also has a bigger wife. That or it talks to us and tells our kids. Oh well, your mom's still there.
Speaker 1:
So we can have two toxic adults.
Speaker 3:
It makes it harder. But, you know, their son played football where my son used to play football for the same school and I go and support him at games Like I would love to sit by them in the same stadium that both of our sons played football. But it's not like that.
Speaker 1:
It's not like that, yeah.
Speaker 3:
It's not like that, you know, because she'll mention oh well, she still wanna be with you, she's trying to stay close to you. Oh, my goodness, one of you gotta get over that.
Speaker 1:
You know, because you have to understand, just because we used to be with whoever you're now currently dating, which is our baby father or dad, we don't want them. When we cut ties, we cut ties. I know I do. I can't speak for everybody, but I know I do. I'm gonna tell a lot of women, don't yeah some don't. They still do love and wanna be with them. I don't want them. No, when I left, I left because I had got fed up and tired and I wanted to change for the best.
Speaker 3:
This has been many 19, 20 years ago and you still now, I'm still.
Speaker 1:
Yeah. Well, my baby, well he 18.
Speaker 3:
So yeah, Like it's crazy how you know, men's can be just as bitter as women.
Speaker 1:
And not only that. Look, we had children. So I know not all of us, our children have children. But my son has a child and he's going through some stuff himself. And I'm just like you know what, son, that's good that you are wanting to be a part of your son's life and you wanted to spend time with him. Because there's a lot of men out here don't even give a flippity flap about their child and they out here taking care of another man's kid instead of taking care of their own.
Speaker 1:
And for you to want to be a part, she's gonna you know what? She's gonna regret it Cause she should be trying to allow you to spend all the time and quit giving you out these restrictions. Because guess what, when you end up getting into another relationship and you start pulling back, she's gonna regret that and wish that she did. Let you spend all that time. Because, let me tell you something, raising a boy it's not easy. I know it's not easy raising a daughter either, but raising a boy it's not easy. Especially, they need they father if they father want to be in their life. You can't sit here and hold that child away from they because you want to wait till they start walking and stuff what you're gonna regret talking don't keep a child.
Speaker 4:
The father's not a good. What if the father's not a good role model?
Speaker 2:
I Can touch on it, with the father not being a good role model. Well then, there should be for my, my personal experience. I'm an uncle, I have three nieces.
Speaker 1:
Okay, so I play that role, I step up and be that great uncle for my nieces, because I feel, like they need to have that male figure in your life, Because if you don't then yeah you're so silk, I mean you're pretty much fall for anything.
Speaker 2:
I don't come to deal with me, because you haven't had that male Figure in your life. So I try my best to be there for my nieces, to show them right from wrong and how you should treat them.
Speaker 1:
Yes, I told them that.
Speaker 2:
Then, like I said, I don't want my nieces to fall victim to anything.
Speaker 3:
I'm gonna come to me because I know and that's a good thing that you even stepped up right, because some family members Well, you know a lot of females have to learn on their own.
Speaker 2:
Yeah you know the hard way.
Speaker 3:
Yeah you don't get abused or mistreated. Oh, you know it's less than all that you have. We have to learn the hard way, so it's a good thing I respect you, even stepping up to be that great uncle or uncle for them and show them that way, because a lot of more females need that.
Speaker 2:
Definitely.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, well, I was lucky, I had my dad in my life and he's still in my life, so you know, that's definitely a plus. Daddy's girl to my heart. I'll run to my dad before my mom to just discuss and talk about anything. You know, that's just me.
Speaker 3:
I feel more comfortable talking to my dad sometimes, yeah so, as far as it was mentioned, you know, does it affect the kids? It does.
Speaker 3:
I'm like my son is 20, my oldest is 20, my youngest is 18 and they both are still affected to this day by being a dad. Like communication and you know, like I tell my boys all the time, it's hard to communicate with somebody that constantly throws your past up in your face. Like you know, he knows that I have a whole healing business, but, yeah, I have to hear what I did to him at 18 because he's not healed.
Speaker 1:
And until he healed, he's gonna come to your face hard like it's hard.
Speaker 3:
I can't have a full Conversation with him without.
Speaker 2:
Here is something that I did in the past, so why do you think that is?
Speaker 3:
Because he's still holding a grudge, I think you still. You know he's, he's on here, he's doing a grudge. You know his plan, his head, that we were supposed to be together forever and that was our goal.
Speaker 2:
That's why we married.
Speaker 3:
You know he, we were high school sweethearts but you know it, unfortunately it didn't work out that way. You know I forgave him. When I have conversations with him I don't tell him hey, you remember you did this to me because you know he did a lot of things too. But I don't hold that against him. You know, I just try to be a good co-parent. You know I support your kids and I still do for his kids that, he having his marriage, his current marriage. But you know I just think he's on healed and he, you know, has a lot of resentment towards me.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, yeah, and that does, he does have a lot of resentment towards me, but that's between him and God and his, his team, like he'll have to heal that. But it does pass on down because, even, like I said, with my kids being grown, they still are affected by and they told me they was like mama.
Speaker 2:
Honestly, we tired, we sick of it and so I came from a household where, you know, my parents work together and they got divorced when I was 15 or 16, but within that household it was chaos. So, like you said, the effect that it had on me and my brothers, you know it did play a role, because I seen my grades go from age to C's. Yeah, oh, wow my teachers asking me questions and I'm like, oh, everything's fine, but it's really not right.
Speaker 3:
You can't go to school until like what's the House, it's not good and I think, like I know my kids especially because me and me and they dad, went through the court system, years of court, go back and forth between the courts, and they had to endure all of that. But you know, I'm very thankful and very blessed. Like I said, I wouldn't change the thing, you know, oh, my behalf before them I probably would have changed something because they have to go through that. But you know they are very respectful men. So I'm very, you know, thankful for the things that we did go through, the trials and tribulations. But I know they are affected, you know, because even my youngest, you know, I put him in counseling so he can talk it out.
Speaker 3:
So, he won't hold those. Yeah, and you know. But they always say mama, you and daddy need to communicate. Y'all don't mean, we can't yeah. We can't, cuz I can't constantly talk to somebody every day that always Tell me about my parents.
Speaker 2:
Oh yeah, cuz we got kind of gets the points where you kind of get tired.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, I'm like this never. I told him from my perspective never throw somebody, pass up when they try. Yeah it's closed down there.
Speaker 1:
I mean, when you're talking to people you can, but then after that you got to learn to forgive them and move on. You can't constantly keep throwing it up and throwing it up, because that means that you haven't really truly forgave them.
Speaker 3:
Is that? That's that's why I said he's bitter and he truly have it.
Speaker 1:
He holds me and he hasn't forgiven me and that's why he's gonna have all the anger in them, and that's not good.
Speaker 3:
He'll tell me all the time why I just suffer as violence.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you will suffer, as I'm not going to teach our kids to suffer. Right.
Speaker 3:
Because you suffering, it's gonna pass down, so I'm right.
Speaker 1:
So what about you like? What is some things against you know that you and your Husband deal with with this bitter baby mama.
Speaker 4:
I don't know cuz it's been two years.
Speaker 1:
Oh wow, it's been two years since he saw the baby. So what are your? Are you? So what are your?
Speaker 3:
hopes for the future that you know. Do you think you you can reach out to her?
Speaker 4:
or Probably knock her out. Yeah, just because whenever we were going through that court process, I tried to be a very Understanding person because she was pregnant with her fifth child? I don't, so she won't be with me she won't help.
Speaker 4:
Damn Okay, she wouldn't I try to be nice and I tried to you know, like, offer you know whatever, like hey, can we talk about this would just happen. Well, how can we work this out? She's like I don't want to talk to you right now. I need some space. I'm just like, okay, well, don't forget it. You know like you lost my respect at that point, like okay, you're the, he's the father. Okay, I'm ready to step up and be like a help to you guys, but you don't want it. So I did help him while we were, you know, in His life, were a thing. We were in his life for like three years and I've bought him stuff. I was the one that would always buy him stuff, toys and like clothes and stuff like that and I don't know, made me feel like I had a child. Love my mom.
Speaker 3:
Did you see your husband in the future reaching back out to her? To you know?
Speaker 4:
I don't think so. He feels so much resentment, I think and I to me. I understand him because you know, I don't know he really wanted to be a there.
Speaker 1:
I know she said no you could only do so much. You know, I got to my son, you don't do so much. Don't keep begging. Please never beg a woman to see a child.
Speaker 3:
You can ask and ask, and if they don't allow you to, just but back as he get older, though he's able to reach out to him on his own. He's gonna want to know what happened.
Speaker 4:
He's gonna want to know, I mean my future, my hopes for the future, is that he's the child's even able to do that.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, because he's disabled.
Speaker 4:
I don't know, feel ever like, understand that he Doesn't have a father and he needs to reach out. I don't, I hope that he gets to that point, okay, that there is a point of that, even if it takes, I don't know, 40 years for him to be like oh, I don't have a father. Because, right whenever he was at the age of three, he had the like, the capacity of a toddler, of like a newborn yeah, that's how bad back. Yeah, so he does that. Yeah, so that would be my, my hope, my, my dream for that to happen.
Speaker 1:
But well, yeah, and I think so, it affects us, for the ones that are grandparents, when Our children go through that bitter baby mama drama and stuff, because if we got sons, the women don't have that act and you know, we don't have that easy access to see our grandkids. It's kind of like if they're not on good terms, then guess what? Us Grandmothers I know that do us Grandmothers probably won't see the child either, because you know of what's going on. I feel like that's not right, even though we might do form and take care of them and help them out whenever. But it happens it's yeah.
Speaker 3:
I don't think me personally as a mother. You, you it, whatever the issues you have with the kids father.
Speaker 1:
Don't take that baby on the grandparents or that child from their mother or father.
Speaker 3:
No, y'all issues, y'all work out as adults, but let the child to see. Allow the child to see his father, as often as he needs to, if not more right. Like that's something I never did not might be okay, I know I did can you come get a bird?
Speaker 1:
I let those kids go. If I had to drive to Louisiana to drop my own son up in his dead house, I was driving going to Houston. I was a very Mother with sports.
Speaker 3:
So I'm here it is. I'm traveling around from city to city. You know, get my boys to their games, you know to wherever they have to go, because my boys were real active and I'm just like, uh, he's my way, okay.
Speaker 1:
Yes, please believe every time they would rather just take on all of it and don't want to. Man, please get out of that. Look, you can have here.
Speaker 3:
Great doing that, though, because, though the kids really wanted to be in a day, I ain't gonna let my son go stay with his dad.
Speaker 1:
You're sure you remember I let him go stay with his dad for a couple years.
Speaker 3:
For like a two. My kids thought that they wanted to go stay with their daddy. They did that for two months and my boys and my oldest son still to this day. He tell me, mom, I got trust issue with women's because of his daddy's wife, what she manipulated him.
Speaker 1:
Okay. You gotta be careful with who they marry and who they get in relationships with, because they don't know what kind of Effect that can play a part on their children like yeah and I'm just glad that my son you know, like I said, on the inside I know he still holds it, but you know it doesn't affect, affect who he's been great.
Speaker 3:
But no, they hold that in, but he yeah, my son told me some stuff too.
Speaker 1:
He was like man. Mama daddy, I'm not gonna put his business out there like that, but he was like man. I'm seeing some things and that's all I'm gonna say, and it do affect them because I could tell by the way he was telling me.
Speaker 3:
It affects them. That's why I'm like you know what. Whatever you need counseling, whatever I can do to help you release that, because I don't want you to get into a situation and carry all of that into that your marriage, your relationship no, let that go now.
Speaker 1:
So what about you when you do start dating or anything like that? I don't know if you currently dating, but you know whenever are you going to date a woman with children, and we'd be understanding if she has some crazy baby daddies or you don't prefer not to?
Speaker 2:
So, yeah, I didn't even think about the crazy baby daddy part.
Speaker 1:
Well, you better think about it because, baby, when you date her, you don't know what can be on the other side of the dog.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, so no, me personally. I want date a woman with kids, just because I don't want that attachment like I like kids.
Speaker 3:
What about older kids? What about like 18 plus?
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 3:
I mean the third round of my kids.
Speaker 2:
So that's a different story. That's a different story.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, baby toddlers and stuff like that. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2:
But as far as like, yeah, definitely probably got to vet out the baby daddy for sure, because I don't need to be holding on Because that's how you know they okay.
Speaker 1:
but then that's when you start being one of the longer be with them, you start to see they really not okay. It's issues and stuff, because then you can start bringing up to like why is she doing this, why is she doing this?
Speaker 3:
And they start their relationship changes with that, because even when I got into my first relationship after my divorce, he started treating me different. When I got you know with somebody you know he's start making threats towards me. So I do. I see what you say.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, cause you never, you never know.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, you don't know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2:
Go over this woman's house and be there and the baby daddy show up with a gun, whatever.
Speaker 1:
So you never know, cause they ain't gonna always be honest and tell you.
Speaker 2:
No, they're not.
Speaker 1:
They're not.
Speaker 2:
So yeah, I kind of just kind of be careful with who I speak with, who I talk to. Definitely, like I said, vet people out for sure.
Speaker 3:
Right, yeah, too.
Speaker 1:
Well, I guess, as far as with me dating, I used to be like how you are, I didn't really want to date men if they had younger children, only because of the baby mama drama. I'm thinking about all those years that I might have to deal with this woman and men that can sit here and take all me, my baby mama, we cool, we just we that. And then they finally the truth start coming out that they really not all that cool Like they say, and I don't want to deal with those issues because I went through that before and I don't, I don't, I ain't got time for the baby mama drama. You know like I'm living a drama free life and I want to keep it that way. So I prefer to date men who kids are, normally teenagers, and up.
Speaker 2:
So y'all have an age limit, but do y'all have like a limit on the amount of kids a man can?
Speaker 3:
have before y'all. Good question. Yeah, I think I could deal with up to three.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, three is my limit too, Okay well, I guess. What about?
Speaker 3:
well, we got the problems over here. Right, she ain't got no problems, but now up to up to three. And I mean I said honestly I will. I can deal with a man that has a toddler or a newborn. I can.
Speaker 1:
She can, but me. You're going to be a special somebody for me to have to see here and have to go back through that again, Cause I'm already going through with my grandson.
Speaker 3:
He got to go through that. I'm just going to be there to support him.
Speaker 1:
But it's going to be like y'all both going to be, cause if you accept him, y'all ain't gonna get married. That is your child too, step mama.
Speaker 3:
So yeah, so y'all gonna be going through with your child.
Speaker 1:
Y'all gonna be going through it together.
Speaker 3:
I would you know, if it's somebody that I truly love and want to be with, I will.
Speaker 2:
Okay, so I've talked to women and some most women don't even want to deal with a man that has a newborn just because it's fresh.
Speaker 1:
It's fresh and you don't know if those feelings are really like cut you know what I'm saying Like he still might really care for her. But you, the rebound chick, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:
You don't know this it just it'll be, it'll be the pit on the situation. I'm not going to just say, well, I'm going to be with a man with a newborn cause you're right, it's still fresh. But then who was to say that? You know he didn't slip up and get her pregnant. You know it could have been like a one night stay in and he got pregnant you know some. It just depends on the situation.
Speaker 2:
That's true.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, okay, it just depends on the situation, but I'm not against it, you know? Oh, I'm not going to date a man.
Speaker 1:
Okay so so what if you were with a man and he messed around and stepped outside of the relationship and he had a baby? Are you going to continue to still be with him? No, man, what if you love him? No?
Speaker 3:
man, what love got to do with it?
Speaker 4:
I'm going to say picture me what you saying Well.
Speaker 1:
Well, y'all already know my answer I didn't even got to answer that If anyone been paying attention to me, you already know you step out, you step out, goodbye. Cause it ain't no second chances right here. I'm sorry, I got a good heart, but my heart ain't stupid. I ain't a fool. I'm sorry, I'll forgive you. Will you do it? But I ain't going to be with you If they step out and they have a child, and then you'll be like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'll forgive you.
Speaker 1:
I ain't going to be with you, cause I'm not a man that's been with, staying with them, women, because they did it. I'm not a child.
Speaker 3:
So just imagine, heart step in that, oh no.
Speaker 2:
No no.
Speaker 3:
No, I will allow some things, but that, no, absolutely not, cause if you step out and get a baby on me, then you need to stay out. You step out for a reason.
Speaker 1:
Cause. Honestly, I don't want to throw that in your face. So I'm not even going to allow myself to continue to be with you because in the back of my mind I'm going to start wondering is this man going to step out and have baby number two on me, you know? So four, five, six, whatever baby is to make it, you know.
Speaker 3:
I'm always throwing it up, so why do us like that?
Speaker 1:
I totally agree, I'm not going to do that yes.
Speaker 3:
Now, if I know me, so next Next.
Speaker 1:
Well, but um, I don't know. You know just this bitter baby mama stuff. Women, what I would like to say to the women that are bitter please stop being bitter. If your baby father Wants to be in your child's life, put your pride and all your problems and stuff To the side and allow him to be a part of his child's life. Because let me tell you something, You're gonna regret that when that child get older and they sit here and come to you and talk to you about why did you hold me away from daddy da, da da.
Speaker 3:
You Not only just you know the dad, but their family like yes.
Speaker 1:
Like you mentioned before, yes, I want to see my grandson more than one time a month. But do I open my mouth and say something about it? No, I haven't, because I felt like maybe she was waiting till he started getting, you know, able to walk and talk and stuff like that. But I've mentioned it to her. I did mention it to her, like I want to start seeing him more because I will make a room for him, because I do got two extra rooms. So hello you know.
Speaker 1:
And then yeah, cuz I'm gonna tell you like this yeah, don't don't wait too late, because when I get to start traveling, honey, I'm gonna be like don't you got a mama? Don't they got another grandparent? Cuz, see what your daddy doing.
Speaker 2:
I want to watch him.
Speaker 1:
I guess that's why they bless me with boys and our girls, because when you have daughters you best believe they gonna be happy you babysitting.
Speaker 3:
Know a few. You know bitter women that hold I do their kids and I have to get on this.
Speaker 1:
I don't like that. I'm not it, I'm not not a fan of that here for that, because Kids need their father they need as much as they need girls, boys, whatever. They need their fathers and they like and quit, you know, let me mess with that little well, you know If the the father is.
Speaker 3:
You know I hear running the trap houses like yeah. I can understand that, but just to hold him back because you're upset with that.
Speaker 1:
I'm mad because things didn't work out with y'all. You can't hold that. You gotta learn how to forgive, cuz you're gonna be a miserable old Person woman or man that's gonna mess around and just go to the grave. Send here a hating your baby daddy or your baby father and it's useless.
Speaker 3:
We trying to track he'll man's right. You know you're making it harder, you know some women are making it harder to you know.
Speaker 4:
raise good, high vibrational yes, yes yes, so If you're not a good dad?
Speaker 1:
Yes, and fathers, if you're not good, step up. Same thing mothers. Have you not a good mother? Step up, because it's some single fathers out here to taking care of kids, because I don't.
Speaker 2:
I don't mind.
Speaker 1:
Plenty of them single fathers and I applied them because it's hard. As you can see, you know that's women.
Speaker 3:
Be a mother, be a good mother.
Speaker 1:
There's already a father.
Speaker 3:
We just, you know, raise our kids to the best. You know, based on what we saw, you know which a lot of times may not been right but, you know there's no instruction manual to be in a mother.
Speaker 1:
Yes, father, totally agree. Well, yeah, we're gonna go ahead and wrap this topic up. This was very interesting. I'll learn more about these better baby Mama's and dad's, and if you have any feedback or any comments, drop it below. And again, like, always like, share and subscribe. And until the next episode, bye, bye.
