Bougie Bayou Witches Podcast

Embracing Spirituality in Relationships and Familial Bonds

May 10, 2024 Toni H.
Embracing Spirituality in Relationships and Familial Bonds
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Bougie Bayou Witches Podcast
Embracing Spirituality in Relationships and Familial Bonds
May 10, 2024
Toni H.
Have you ever felt the pull between staying true to your spiritual self and fitting in with friends and family? Together with Marquise, Bossa Nova, and B. Q the Alchemist, we voyaged through the enigmatic dance of spirituality in our relationships. Our latest heart-to-heart in the Bougie Bayou Witches Podcast illuminated the ways our inner beliefs guide us in forming connections, maintaining authenticity with friends who may not share our spiritual path, and the transformative power of shared spiritual awakenings amongst companions.

Romantic relationships, too, are a profound focus of our spiritual journey—how do they evolve when partners are on different spiritual wavelengths? We reflected on the beauty and the hurdles of intertwining souls with differing beliefs. The discussions got personal as we each shared stories of spiritual growth impacting our romantic lives. From astrology to energetic balance, we delved into how these elements shape our love stories and the patience required to navigate them. The strength found in spiritual solidarity with a partner resonated through our tales, highlighting the depth it can add to love's bond.

Wrapping up, the spotlight turned to the familial front, where the threads of spirituality can feel the most taut. We broached the complex emotions of being the 'black sheep' or the 'chosen one' in a family with divergent beliefs and the courage it takes to stand firm in our spiritual identity. As we closed this chapter, the take-away was clear: embrace your spiritual path with conviction. Whether it leads to unity or solitude, honor your journey and the lessons it brings. This episode is a call to all listeners to cherish their unique spirituality in the tapestry of relationships. Join us, relish in our stories, and don't forget to subscribe for more heartfelt contemplations where spirituality meets the heart's connections.
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Have you ever felt the pull between staying true to your spiritual self and fitting in with friends and family? Together with Marquise, Bossa Nova, and B. Q the Alchemist, we voyaged through the enigmatic dance of spirituality in our relationships. Our latest heart-to-heart in the Bougie Bayou Witches Podcast illuminated the ways our inner beliefs guide us in forming connections, maintaining authenticity with friends who may not share our spiritual path, and the transformative power of shared spiritual awakenings amongst companions.

Romantic relationships, too, are a profound focus of our spiritual journey—how do they evolve when partners are on different spiritual wavelengths? We reflected on the beauty and the hurdles of intertwining souls with differing beliefs. The discussions got personal as we each shared stories of spiritual growth impacting our romantic lives. From astrology to energetic balance, we delved into how these elements shape our love stories and the patience required to navigate them. The strength found in spiritual solidarity with a partner resonated through our tales, highlighting the depth it can add to love's bond.

Wrapping up, the spotlight turned to the familial front, where the threads of spirituality can feel the most taut. We broached the complex emotions of being the 'black sheep' or the 'chosen one' in a family with divergent beliefs and the courage it takes to stand firm in our spiritual identity. As we closed this chapter, the take-away was clear: embrace your spiritual path with conviction. Whether it leads to unity or solitude, honor your journey and the lessons it brings. This episode is a call to all listeners to cherish their unique spirituality in the tapestry of relationships. Join us, relish in our stories, and don't forget to subscribe for more heartfelt contemplations where spirituality meets the heart's connections.
Speaker 1:

Hello, I'm Toni from Bougie Bayou Witches Podcast. I'm the host and I am here with my guests. I'm going to let them introduce themselves. Hi, I'm I.

Speaker 2:

I'm Marquise.

Speaker 1:

Hey, it's Bossa Nova.

Speaker 4:

B.

Speaker 3:

Q the Alchemist.

Speaker 1:

All right. So today we're on episode 13. We'll be talking about being spiritual. Does it affect slash, hurt or help, friendship relationships or family? So we're going to go ahead and get started on the friendship part. So how does one's spiritual beliefs influence the choice of friends? How do you feel? Like my choice of friends or how I Just like overall, like your friends, your husband friends Like how do you feel? Or just your loved one friends Like how do you feel that your spiritual beliefs influence the choice of your friends?

Speaker 5:

Well, I just shut it all down if I don't like it. I just like if I see you. But that's because I'm different. You know I'm different. I could see somebody and I could see what their intentions are. I could see them without their face, and if I don't like the face that we have on, I see them without the face and if I don't like it I just run away like I just turn and I tell my husband the same thing. I'm like that person's not good for you. He won't listen to me the first time and the second time he's like oh yeah, you were right, I was like. I told you. So then he starts listening to me now and I don't know, it's just being intuitive to me has helped me keep negative people away from my life so then, therefore, I'm able to be at the highest frequency and just loving myself and my husband right my family what about you, marquise yes, it does.

Speaker 2:

It does take an effect on like relationships, work relationships, for sure, um, just through experiences that I have had, but it also, you know, makes me love myself even more as well, just for you know, just being just being different. Right, Listen, I mean as far as family. Okay, can we repeat the question? Can we? Because I'm like I ain't going to lie because I was going blank a little bit. Okay.

Speaker 4:

We can tell.

Speaker 2:

We can tell, we can tell we can tell I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to lie, we can tell, okay. So, how does one's personality beliefs influence the choice of friends?

Speaker 2:

okay, yeah, so growing up as, like in a baptist type of household and like a religious household, but also understanding and knowing the things that I'm into, like, like tarot crystals, you know all of that. So, yeah, it does take an effect, and sometimes I feel like I got to mute myself, or sometimes dilute myself around certain relationships. Still, and that, right there is where I'm at in the moment of, you know, challenging myself and you know what I'm saying Just like standing on who I am. I'm not ashamed of it, but at the same time, though, I feel like I can either be too over compromising for the sake of trying to not step on nobody else's toes right because I already get the bad.

Speaker 2:

You know black sheep, demon, devil work, like all of the love, like what?

Speaker 1:

they want to. Who cares exactly?

Speaker 4:

stigmatism. Exactly who cares? Yeah, and what about you? Okay, yeah, so definitely, I feel like it did take a toll on my friendships. You know, once I really uh, showed my spirituality and stuff. You know, I saw a lot of my friends fall off, and that's okay, you know, they just weren't meant to be in my life exactly, and you know I don't try to dim that for nobody, because I am who I am and if you don't resonate with me, you don't resonate you know you don't resonate with me and that don't resonate with me.

Speaker 4:

You know, you don't resonate with me and that's completely fine, because I see my new soul tribe coming in that are more spiritually inclined. They're more on my vibration Right. So you know it's okay. I don't have no ill will towards nothing or nothing Like it, just is what it is.

Speaker 3:

All right, well, I have a friend that understands where I'm at and she's more into the church thing, but she understands and meets me in a way to where you know, um, I had to, you know, try to you know, break it down to her to understand that I love the same, I love god, god is love, love is god all day. But don't take it or separate me from just because you're doing something biblical. Don't take away from it because Because, if you want to go biblical, the high priestess wore a chest plate of crystals. So let's be honest. But where I'm at, if you're not rocking with me, deuces, I don't care when I'm at right now, at this point, right now, if you're not rocking with me.

Speaker 5:

I'm good, I sleep heavy at night.

Speaker 3:

I sleep good like a rock. I sleep good heavy at night.

Speaker 2:

I sleep good like a rock. I sleep good, so it's cool.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna love on me yeah and you know, to be honest with you, if you really break it down in the bible, they really uh, talk about crystals and stuff in the bible. You know it's just you have to decode it. It's all about decoding. It's the same same thing. But we're just using the elements. As far as our spirituality and stuff like that, we're tapping into the elements. That's when a lot of quote-unquote religious folks will be like that's evil and this and that it's like how is that evil? I don't know, it's just a rabbit hole with that but it's like the.

Speaker 4:

It's just a rabbit hole with that, but you know it's like the same thing for real, you know? Yeah, it is a deep one, right.

Speaker 1:

I know. I don't know I feel like with me. I want to be around like-minded friends. Yeah, they have no problem with what I do if they do have a problem with what I do. I know it's not going to last because I know the path that I'm on, and if they're on it, cool. If they're not, hey, I accept that but, I know that we might not be communicating and talking to each other that long because, I can't go to you and talk to you about certain things because you're not on the same path that I'm on.

Speaker 1:

You'll think.

Speaker 5:

I'm crazy or weird when I start telling you.

Speaker 1:

My ancestors told me this and that You're like what? So you do have to kind of be around like-minded friends that are understanding and accept what it is that you do that's how.

Speaker 4:

I feel no no for real, to each his own. Yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 1:

But I would say next can differences in spiritual views strain or enrich friendships? Do you feel like you know differences in your spiritual views strain or enrich friendships? Do you feel like you know um differences in your spiritual views strain or enrich friendships, ma?

Speaker 5:

do you mean like can they make them?

Speaker 1:

better by your kind of make it better bad, you know, like wear a toll on it to me.

Speaker 5:

I feel like it makes it better because you're always, at least for me I'm speaking for myself right? You want to, um, just talk to people, friends, your spouse, whoever it might be and just give them the advice of what you see, because you have intuition, because you have whatever it is that it is, that your abilities are, or your gifts, and if you start using them and I'm like, hey, you should do this, because if you do this and you stay on this path, you're going to success and if they stick to that path, they're going to be successful. And then they come back to me and they're like oh, I did exactly what you told me to do and guess what? My life changed completely. Thank you so much, and I'm like see that to is, it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 5:

So, that's good, I like it.

Speaker 1:

What about?

Speaker 5:

you, Marquise.

Speaker 2:

It can be straining Like again just the differences Some like there are friends that I can talk to about it with. Don't get me wrong. Some of them that do know, you know.

Speaker 2:

But as far as like Talking to it about Some people that I really like to talk to About, it with Okay, they just like, kind of like you were just saying, they just wouldn't get it or understand, like my mom, for example. She is like she does get it or understand. Like my mom, for example, she is like she does you know, get it and understand. So she's learning, trying to learn a little bit which is open-minded open-minded? Yes, very much so, and sometimes even then like talking to open-minded people. They're, they're curious and here I am trying to pour something, but they, you know, got these questions like so what is?

Speaker 2:

and I'm like having to explain, which is nothing wrong with that, but it's like I'm kind of need to get this event or you know whatever. Vice versa.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, so yeah yes, I definitely feel that it has helped. Some of my uh friendships I have um know it's all about planting that seed, you know, in their brain.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

And I've seen, you know some people, you know they come to me and they see that I'm on my spiritual path and they see that what it's done for me, you know, and they're like like, what's the sauce, girl? Basically, you know, and I'm like there's no sauce to it. It just kind of has to happen to you, naturally, you know. But you know you kind of plant that seed and then you know they start to like do their own digging or whatever and get into their own. And then next, you know, you talk to them again and it's like, yeah, like you see them, you know, yeah, and then also it can be shameful, like I was saying in the last question, it can be shameful too because some people they just they're closed-minded yes, they're very closed-minded, you know, and they think you're a witch and they think you're evil, like he was saying you know, like they think all this you know what I mean?

Speaker 4:

yeah, exactly, and it's like you know what, if you're not meant to be in my life anyway, then obviously you know, because yeah, I don't know exactly right, exactly right and it's, it's okay.

Speaker 3:

The strangest part is that I'm not knocking anybody that reads the bible. That do their thing, but if you, on a way of trying to learn something, people be afraid of certain things that they don't know about.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

So when you go to Christianity, you're going to be afraid of that, or when it comes to spirituality, you're going to be afraid of that. So you got to kind of pick what resonates with you what resonates with your spirit and understand what pulls and tugs on you. So it's not Wayne saying one is better than the other, whatever, but the thing about it everything flowed in the spirit before it came to work.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So if you want to be, biblical, but on the terms of the good part is that we love different. I'm saying that we don't love that other people don't love, but we keep the heart chakra open yes, we keep it open.

Speaker 3:

We keep it open, yeah because the thing about it, you can't get into downloads, you can't get to certain things. That's why you know when it speaks in book that you know everything comes from the heart. So you got to be careful what you speak. But you know, uh, we have to understand that, um love love is the key to all love is the conqueror of all. Love heals all wounds.

Speaker 3:

Love is just yes love, and I taught a friend how to love different, to love, you know, in a way of with no bound with understanding, that's beautiful that you did that. You know that you taught her or your friend to do that because, like you know, when people be mad, you know I still love on you yeah, I don't care how mad you mad at me i'ma still love on you.

Speaker 3:

I don't care if you you know, I still love on you. Yes, I don't care how mad you mad at me, I'm going to still love on you.

Speaker 1:

I don't care if you dirty me, I'm going to still love on you.

Speaker 3:

I don't care what you do to me. I'm going to still love on you Because the simple fact is it's going to open it up, no matter what.

Speaker 5:

It's going to knock those walls down?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and especially when it's it's different.

Speaker 4:

They might not be used to that. They're like what?

Speaker 3:

But then again they got some people rejected, some people would abuse it, but they got some people that it starts chiseling that ice off the heart, Right so you okay, that's what's up.

Speaker 4:

He's good. Okay, but he's teaching me something, so yeah.

Speaker 3:

Be teachable, be open.

Speaker 4:

One person at a time.

Speaker 1:

That be open. I would say with me. It can sometimes put a strain on your friendship, because I do have someone that I've known I would say more like 10, maybe 11, 12 years that I am spiritual. Now I understand her husband's real more religious and stuff like that. So you know like. She did invite me to come over to a housewarming party. If you watch it, hey hun. So you know she was like oh, just make sure you don't do all that. She did invite me to come over to a housewarming party. If you watching, hey hon, hey hon. So you know she was like oh, just make sure you don't do all that talking about what you do. And I was just like what I am, who I am.

Speaker 1:

I'm like you know like, when I go into different settings and stuff, I don't just say, hey, by the way, I'm a witch. You know like, I don't announce all that because I feel like it's a time and a place for you know all of that. But it's just the fact that she said that I was just like, are you serious? Like you? Ashamed of me? I understand your man's a bible guy. You know he reads the bible a lot. Nothing wrong with that. I don't knock anybody, do what you do. Yeah, you know what I'm saying and you know he's religious.

Speaker 1:

Cool, I have no problem with that right just because I am a little different from you and him don't mean that what I do is such a bad thing, so like if I did come to the place.

Speaker 1:

You don't want me to say what I do because you're afraid that people might look at me crazy and look at you differently. So I did take a little offense to that. But no, I didn't intend it, because I was a busy person at the time. I was busy, I couldn't go, but it just. It just lets you know that sometimes your friends are not always or I would say associates, acquaintance are not always cool with what it is that you do. They might tolerate it but they might not be okay with it. And when you come around you have to be careful, right and accept it and mindful of what it is that you say around it, because they don't want you to embarrass them, because they have their certain crowd that they run with and they might not be okay with what it is.

Speaker 5:

I started saying if you don't like me, you know how I am.

Speaker 1:

Don't invite me. Yes, because I am not going to shy away from who I am. No, I won't embarrass you, but at the same time, I am who I am. If a guy asks me what's my religious preference, background and all that, I don't want to tell him because I don't have nothing to hide I have accepted who I am and I love that yes.

Speaker 3:

Right and people ask me I'm just like I am and I love that's it and the thing about it like it's just tugging on me I have to go here when he turned the staff into a snake and the snake became back to wood. So is that sorcery, or?

Speaker 2:

is that magic.

Speaker 4:

Oh, so we have to understand those things. Yeah, let's really talk about it, so we have to understand those things.

Speaker 3:

So you got to understand like, hey, what's?

Speaker 1:

the contradictory they was doing magic back in the Bible time.

Speaker 2:

What's the contradictory? But it got people what they call it. Christian mysticism.

Speaker 1:

Turn the water into wine, yeah, what is mysticism?

Speaker 3:

Right, come on now, it can't be here, can't be here, it can't be here. Yeah, for sure, it flows together. Exactly, it flows together. Right, and it was just tugging on me like I was trying to say it, but it had to come out.

Speaker 4:

No, you got to say it.

Speaker 5:

It had to come out. You can let your voice. It had to come out. So you know it's just. That's real.

Speaker 1:

That's where they're great Because it's coded, you break it down.

Speaker 3:

And I read it from cover to cover three times and I just broke it down, like man I done, cracked the code.

Speaker 2:

Because, everything we're talking about, God created. Yeah, for sure Because didn't they say the fallen angels is the one that taught the humans about astrology, but I mean before they fell, where was they at?

Speaker 4:

Right, Okay y'all. So what are some?

Speaker 1:

ways spirituality can deepen connections among friends. What do you feel are some ways that spirituality can deepen the relationships among friends?

Speaker 5:

I'll let him single off. Let me think about it, because I only have spiritual friends?

Speaker 1:

I don't know I can't connect to like, so what is the way you think spirituality can deepen connections among your friends?

Speaker 2:

man, like with my sister, like she's sitting up there getting into the spirituality.

Speaker 5:

She's trying to somewhat go vegan a little bit too Right, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 2:

So she, you know, I'll be telling her about stuff and it's cool because she can sit up here. Is it a Mercury retrograde? She'll ask you know? And then, like at work, like I have certain coworkers or you know some residents that'll be like you know, can you read my cards, even though I can't read their cards no more at work? Yeah, to me that's just giving like. I feel like, like you know they.

Speaker 2:

they're actually like wanting to understand spirit wanting to get like, you know, like closer to spirit, yeah, in tune with themselves, their higher selves, their better selves, and like okay, I like this.

Speaker 4:

You know of course, so yeah, Okay, what about you Ma?

Speaker 5:

I was getting a whole, nother download. I have a message for you later, okay, right, okay, I'm sorry. The question again.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so what is some way spirituality can deepen connections among friends.

Speaker 5:

I just feel like being more awakened. I hate the word that we're using, awakened, but it's just. We are becoming aware of what we've always been. That's how I see it. It's just, you know, we got programmed to be a certain different way but now that we are who we are, it's just like it's nice to conversate with people that are like-minded and I don't know to just help each other if I don't understand something. It's nice to get perspective from another person and get more in, you know, information from that.

Speaker 2:

So yeah that's real, because this is refreshing yes, very much sometimes, you think you know it and you're like we actually didn't think about it.

Speaker 5:

Right, right, right, sure right so it's very uh like therapeutic yes therapeutic?

Speaker 4:

yes, it's not draining at all, you feel you leave feeling energized, right?

Speaker 3:

it's that infinity motion.

Speaker 4:

Everybody is in a flow state. You know how do you feel on it? Um, I feel like, you know, I feel like that's kind of like how I said in the last question, like you know how it's good to like see, like your friends, you know, and you see them like flourishing, basically you know, by giving them the advice because, like I said, like how they see you on your path and it's just like you know they want to like dang, like like this girl, she, you know, I seen her when she was down here and now she done, you know, ascended, and it's like dang, like you know, like I want to. How can I like do that, you know, and it's like, okay, first of all you got to go through some shit, you know.

Speaker 4:

For real, you got to go through some shit, you know, like, like she said why you got to lose your mind to find your soul, you know, and it's just like it's not something that you can, just it's got to come naturally. But, like you know, I have one of my best friends. She's a Pisces, so she's very spiritual, like it's in her already. But you know, she saw me on my journey and I feel like she went through her own darkness, so so I was kind of helping her, you know, because she was like I don't know what's going on this and that. And now it's like, you know, we became so much closer because now we're like both tapped in, like super, you know, and she's like into spirituality. It's just beautiful just to see. And I'm like you know what, like I love that, I love that for you because you know we, you know we didn't came from the, you know, like concrete, so it's like just beautiful you know like right how about?

Speaker 3:

you well, you're not a diamond if you don't go through pressure yeah, so my thing is that, um, my extension, my, my, my uh change of energy.

Speaker 3:

like since I've been podcasting, my friends have been like man. Every time I see something different. You just climb and climb, and climb. They want a piece of it, they want to figure out where the energy is coming from. Because I've seen you at your lowest and basically what she was saying earlier. I've seen you at your rock bottom, but how you became here is just that I never stopped. I never stopped, like I said last thing we was talking about the last sequel. I became Invictus, I became Relentless.

Speaker 5:

No matter how much you tried to hurt me to the core.

Speaker 3:

I became great.

Speaker 5:

I became stronger, I became smarter, wiser, alchemy, you know.

Speaker 3:

So that thing is just a part of that. No matter how much you try to break me, I come back stronger every time. So they wanted that it was like man. So I have so many people reaching out to me that I would never thought like ET Eric, you know ET, the hip hop preacher, the speaker. He reached out to me.

Speaker 2:

I was like the alien no entertainment tonight. I know you on another frequency now.

Speaker 1:

Look, I got you on my entertainment tonight.

Speaker 3:

Eric Thomas. He reached out to me through email to take up one of his classes to become a speaker. Traveling the world, speaking, that's beautiful.

Speaker 3:

It's reaching a lot know, so it's reaching a lot of people. It's reaching a lot of people you know just from you know the things that I've been through and everything that I share is a part of me. It's my story. It's not nobody else's story. It's what I went through to help other people, because other people after you come out of it. They don't have to take the first you know step or the first thing to even think about, because some people just in that lost state to where they can't come out.

Speaker 3:

So your story might be the one to save a person's life and I had a person call me and say your story just saved my life, so I got to keep doing this. It's like I'm scratching the surface. I got 10 tablets of stuff written and I'm going to let it come out, you know. So, from the North to the South, I'm going to run my mouth.

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, yes yes, yes, yes, I would say what are some ways that spiritually can deepen connections among friends? For me, I would just be educating and, you know, just letting them know about. You know what spirituality has to you know, just letting them know about. You know what spirituality has to you know, offer, I love it. You know it changed my life a whole 360 so you never know who else that you know, that you can, you know inspire and let know more about it.

Speaker 1:

So yes, all right. So our next question we're gonna be talking about relationships. Now, y''all we done with the friendships, we on to the relationships. Did I say the friendships? Yeah, so we done with the friendships, we on to the relationships. So how do partners navigate differences in spiritual beliefs within relationships?

Speaker 5:

That's a tough one and a good one Okay.

Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah, that was like.

Speaker 5:

That's a tough one and a good one okay yeah that one that was like that's a tough one and a good one, because I am the way that I am.

Speaker 5:

My husband is not the way that I am, but he doesn't knock it right because he comes from a muslim background and whenever I tell him or I give him, I guess, to, for us it'd be downloads for him it's advice, okay, and he's like oh, okay, okay, I'll listen to it. I'll listen to it, and the more that he does it, the more that I've noticed, like, without me saying anything at all, he'll start getting on like the phone, like what does it mean to be a sagittarius rising?

Speaker 5:

what does it mean if I start seeing one, one one and I was just like he's growing he's, he's, he's taking the steps push him, and push him, and push him, and then I realized I can't push him.

Speaker 4:

He has to do it because he wants to do it at his timing.

Speaker 5:

And I'm like, I'm waiting for you to get where I'm at, because we have something that we're supposed to do. That's so amazing. And then I had to take a step back and be like my right, you can't push him. Yeah, he needs to do it on his own, even though I am a little tired.

Speaker 2:

I'm 36, he needs to get on it. But yeah, that's the point. I digress, but he's, he's learning, it's good. Yeah, that's what's up, because I feel like it's probably like you just sitting up there, you know what I'm saying he's into it and accepting of you and stuff, even though y'all are different.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, that's really what's up, you being mindful, you know of it like that's sweet because I would have been like yeah, you know, honestly, to be honest, I haven't really ever thought about that until this question came up just now. Okay, as and I'm thinking of romantic relationships, as far as like the relationship okay um, sometimes I don't really get much uh question about it.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I like, because my altar is right there in my, in my apartment, so I mean it's there, my inset. Like you know, it is what it is. They won't ask about it. But you know, then I sometimes I don't even just feel like the necessary need to even you know mention, I mean I make the big deal. If you have questions about it, I'll be glad to answer. But right, yeah what about you?

Speaker 4:

um, I feel in my relationship, um, the person, whenever I first got with him, he was like in the beginning I was a little bit more advanced in my spiritual you know journey and stuff and um, at first I was just like trying to, you know, just trying to help him and stuff like that. Because I feel like some people, whenever we do meet, they do say that when we meet people it's like we're at that vibrational match. But I also feel that people come to you relationship-wise because they need that healing as well. You know what I mean. And they see you and it's like and it's kind of like training, you know in a way, you and it's like you know and it's kind of like training. You know in a way, because it's like you know.

Speaker 4:

But it's like if you really mess with that person and really want to see them grow, it's like you'll, you'll help them and stuff like that. And I feel like I've done that. And now it's like he kind of just thanks me a lot, because he's like man, like if I didn't meet you, like I would have been, like you know, kind of, and I'm like, oh, you don't gotta thank me, it's really source, but like he's using me as a vessel, I feel you know, like you know, but I, I mean, I hear you, you know like so my husband is a gemini.

Speaker 5:

Gemini's do not like to talk about their feelings. Their feelings are like yeah no so now he's become like a whole, like mushy person.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Why did you be, why did you make me this mushy person? I?

Speaker 4:

don't like that. I'm like you're just loving.

Speaker 5:

You know you have to heal your masculine energy, first For sure, and then so you can have your masculine and your feminine together leveled out. Yeah, you have to be both we all do as women and as men.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, to be both. We all do as women and, yeah, balanced so you're a leo, right, and your husband's a gemini. Yeah, I'm an aries and the person I'm dealing with, he's a libra, so it's like fire and air. So definitely I feel that with the whole like don't like to talk about feelings and it's like, yeah, I'm a whole feeling person you know, I'm gonna say what's on my mind. Yeah, for real, can't stop it, fire energy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for real. So how do you feel? Do you feel like, I guess, partners navigate differences in spiritual beliefs within relationships?

Speaker 3:

Well, I can say that my last was just like oh, it didn't, it didn't work because the thing about it, the things that I was just speaking about, it was just like she couldn't fathom it because like it was theologian school, she went through stuff like that. It was more biblical, but it was just like I didn't understand the things that she was doing. It was like it wasn't adding up to being biblical or spiritual. It was like you were just doing craziness, like I don't know. I didn't understand it, but I know right now where I'm at. She has to be in tune with me. I don't care who she is, she has to be on my level.

Speaker 3:

Right and the simple fact is, you know, she has to be an extended woman. Because the thing about it, so she has to be there and the thing about it like I met another, Leo, and it's kind of intriguing. It's fun. It's like we had the first. We had the first. It's crazy because we had the first. That's a real thing to say. Right, it's crazy Cause like we had the first Where's the lie?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we had the first. Are you a real team? No, we had the first.

Speaker 1:

Leo in the eighth house.

Speaker 3:

We had the first spat and it was just like so. Did we just have an argument? Did we just laugh about it? And it was just cool, like so. It's like having that Female version of me.

Speaker 4:

Uh huh, so it's like having that female version of me.

Speaker 3:

It feels so good Almost to where we're marrying each other in a good way.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's beautiful.

Speaker 3:

So it's that type of thing, so it's different, she's a little bit younger than me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you can find somebody in the present, so it's quite the journey.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, somebody you know, we're conversating, we're talking, we're trying to see where things can go. There you go, there you go. It's very intriguing.

Speaker 4:

That's what I'm doing. Yeah, it's very intriguing.

Speaker 3:

There's nothing but the best for y'all, so it's like I love it because I'm finally met a female version of me. It to be like that, Because where I'm at right now, man, I'll dick myself. You know what I'm saying. I'm loving on me.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying we're the male version of men.

Speaker 3:

So it's kind of like, hey, it's intriguing. I like it I like it, man, I like it, I like it.

Speaker 1:

I feel that partners can I guess they can, you know strengthen and help you out when you are in a relationship with someone that is on the same level as you. The relationship part, you know it don't really relate to me because I'm single. I'm not going to lie y'all I'm single. But you know I am listening to you, know everyone that I'm interviewing, so I'm going to go ahead gonna lie y'all I'm single, but you know I am listening to you, know everyone that I'm interviewing, so I'm gonna go ahead and get started with the next question. But can shared spirituality strengthen romantic bonds? Yes, oh yes.

Speaker 5:

I feel like it can it can yeah, Whenever you are both. How do I say this?

Speaker 5:

On the same spiritual frequency, and then you get whatever together it's so much more amazing, it's so much more beautiful. But then it's also like the side of like okay, right now he's not in a good place, right now I'm gonna go ahead and stay away because I don't want to connect to him, because I have severed that cord for right now, because I don't want him to be. You know, it's all about soul ties, right situation right now. You have to be able to detect that. Like sure, do I want to be intimate and be like hardcore and go at it, or is he not really good right now? Mentally he's stressed out. He has this going on. I don't want to feel that shit. Go ahead and take it right back to you until you get right, then we can come back. Yeah, right, I totally agree, and me too, and vice versa.

Speaker 5:

If I'm not doing good, yeah, it's not good for him because he'll feel it yeah, he'll feel my sadness my depression, my anger, my whatever, and then he'll just back it up on me and I'm like, why are you talking to me like that? You're talking to me crazy and in reality. Those are all my emotions that are just reflecting back on me. I'm like well, they're here.

Speaker 3:

They're projecting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah projecting back. What about you, my kids?

Speaker 2:

I'm not in no relationship right now, but I am. You can relate to them, okay.

Speaker 1:

So if you were in one, how do you feel?

Speaker 2:

I would just I guess, like while I'm dating.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're dating. You're like, you know, I don't, I'm single.

Speaker 2:

But I'm yeah, I'm right now it's like yeah, look I'm enjoying myself for the first time, and I don't know if it got anything to do with all my strong labor placements, but for some reason I just could not get it through my head that I do not need nobody to complete me, make me fit. I'm looking in this mirror loving who.

Speaker 5:

I'm seeing I'm actually talking to myself positive and stuff, and it really took that deep shadow work to get to this point.

Speaker 2:

It matters of them. Candles too, the self-glamour candle that comes spiritually, yeah, yeah, but no, like honestly, see like it really like has been in a good space for me and I'm really like on this, protecting me, like right now, Like I'll be seeing Spirit like bringing out these little and especially during Mercury retrograde right now.

Speaker 2:

Like I'll be seeing Spirit like bringing out these little and especially during Mercury Retrograde right now. Like I'll be seeing Spirit trying to bring these old, raggedy ass and I'm like this child's playing God like Spirit. You know that's a no.

Speaker 4:

That's a no hardcore hardcore, no, and I'm like okay, spirit, you gotta cut a little harder than that.

Speaker 1:

But let me stop, because Spirit be looking at me like, okay, now, we were trying to help you out.

Speaker 2:

Don't get. What do they say high in your britches? Just yet, now we ain't going to give you nobody else a date. Look I'm like. Look at me protecting me. Look at me loving me. Yeah, so that's kind of like where I'm at right now. And I was thinking about that on my way here too, really yeah.

Speaker 1:

So what about you? Hon? Can shared spirituality strengthen romantic bonds? Oh yeah, most definitely, I feel.

Speaker 4:

And, by the way, just to add on to that whole, that's definitely a lever thing, because I don't know how to be by yourselves. You know, I'm very happy that you are like no, I'm being strong, you know like I love that but, yes, like most definitely, I feel like it can strengthen um your bond, you know, as long as you guys are both on the same page and stuff like that and want to grow together spiritually.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Right, as Leos man, we're natural born loners. Yeah, like for real. So when we are getting to that point to where we are rebuilding ourselves, so we kind of be secluded and transforming.

Speaker 2:

So what.

Speaker 3:

I've been doing lately. I've been doing lately, I've been transforming. I got back in the gym. I'm at the tip-top shape.

Speaker 5:

I feel like.

Speaker 3:

I'm 20, so I'm just in my 40s.

Speaker 2:

So I've just been doing things differently and reiterating certain things Romantically.

Speaker 3:

I'm just, I didn't do the romantic thing yet, but it's just that it could be a growth. She was speaking. It has to be on the same level, has to be the same energy, reciprocating back and forth, a projection type of thing. But I'm like, um, I don't know, it's just the love I have to give. It's like, if you are down, let's meditate together.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, let's get that, let's, let's meditate together let me pull you back up, let me fill you back up. So because, like, if you off it's going to upset everything in the whole house. The kids are going to hit everybody.

Speaker 5:

So I don't even hit them, Because when they hit them they don't really understand what's going on.

Speaker 3:

They run around wild, so I can't let it impact them, so I have to keep it for them. So look, hey, let's go into our secret place and meditate hey, let's go into our secret place and meditate. Let's get it together.

Speaker 2:

Let's get back on one accord and bond. Most definitely. You know oneness let's go with them and get back to our higher selves.

Speaker 3:

Yes, and channel this thing together and, let's you know, slay these demons together.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, conquer it. Yep, you know, that's it. I love that.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's amazing. I Wow, that's amazing. I love that. I love everybody's responses. And I would say next, because I'm not in no relationship, I'm not going to answer that question.

Speaker 4:

I don't know what was that, but if you were though.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

There we go. Yay, you know I'm going to be the one to call it. You know I'm going to be the one to do it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yes, I do feel like it can strengthen romantic bonds, because I would want somebody that is spiritual. If you're not spiritual, or at least open-minded, then what can we do?

Speaker 4:

Exactly. We can't do nothing together.

Speaker 1:

Like he said, we can't meditate together, we can't do snowboard together, we can't help one another talk about spiritual stuff, because you'll be looking at me like I'm crazy. So I would have to be with somebody that is on that level. But it's going to take a special someone like this lady who had read me told me it's going to have to be a special man to come into your life because I am a special individual and not everybody is meant for me and I'm not meant for everybody.

Speaker 3:

That's okay, that's good though.

Speaker 1:

That, so I will stay single until that special someone appears.

Speaker 5:

Yes, come on, special someone. Yeah, come on.

Speaker 1:

Come on, I'm going to knock on her door right now All right. So what role does spirituality play in resolving conflicts in relationships?

Speaker 5:

Well, I get really I'm going to say the word manipulative on that, because I know, you know, I know how to control the situations and I'll, and I tell him to stop thinking a certain way. So he stops thinking a certain way. And I know I shouldn't do that, but just to avoid conflicts, I just go ahead and like sweep it under the rug again because it's not that serious. If it was serious, then I would listen to him, but if not, then no, I'm not dealing with it, we're just gonna. We're gonna think differently. Okay, where this is not where it's gonna go, it's like, yeah, that's not where it's gonna go right, so about you, obedient nice what role does spirituality play in resolving conflicts in a um situation, ship, a relationship for you I gotta catch myself because

Speaker 2:

not with what I'm about to say, but when it's in that conflict, I'll be like we're not hot. And then I said I gotta catch myself. Like there you go, like okay, why can't I just sit up there and just love on them, like he was talking about. Like why can't I just sit up there and just try to like transmute that into like loving?

Speaker 4:

but then I'm human, I'll sit up there and get into.

Speaker 2:

I get mad, I get mad, but then before I get impulsive and want to do something, then I'll later on be like damn, I'll just sit up there and, yeah, I'll try to use my spirituality for grounding myself, learning about you, know me, and also just understanding the other person's point of view as well.

Speaker 3:

Like what?

Speaker 2:

level they're at. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4:

yeah, right okay, what about you, hon? Um, I definitely uh feel how he feels. You know, and I do still struggle with impulsiveness whenever, you know, because I, when I get mad and I just be like going off, sometimes, you know, if it's like it doesn't it takes a lot for me to get mad, but when I do, it's like oh, and then I'm like dang okay, that was not cool, but it's like you had me fucked up. Though you know what I mean, you know, like you know, and it's like, then it's like okay, like you really just have to ground yourself, like you know, like you're saying, like you have to ground yourself, and it's like okay, like, and that's something I still struggle with and I can admit that.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, yeah, it's basically, you know, leos, we shut down. Sometimes we just shut down and we try to go in our heads into you know, self-thinking Okay, how could I? You know, we play four times in our head how could I do this, how could I do this, how could I go at it differently? So basically, the transmute of the energy, the transmute of the love, energy.

Speaker 5:

Come on, let me just love on you. Come here, let me just love on you I know, it's all right.

Speaker 4:

Come on, give me love. It's good.

Speaker 3:

So one of those type of things is just that, giving that type of thing to get them to understand like I know you had a hard day, I know it's going good, but I have to be spirituality level be able to balance it and control it for sure, because when I spiral, out everything goes apart.

Speaker 3:

You know some of the things about it that I gotta keep it on. That you know. Okay, all right, you're the leader of this situation, you're the captain of this ship, so you gotta get it together. Order for everything else to go right.

Speaker 3:

So if it's not flowing right with you because I'm, I'm the head I'm the king, right, I'm the, I'm the alchemist of my tribe that I created, so I have to keep that balance. So it's really a balance thing. You know the energy. You got to keep it right so to order to reciprocate it in the whole household, because if it's not, it's everybody.

Speaker 2:

Then you got to go and get and fix everybody Right, Because spirit going to look at you like you know better.

Speaker 3:

Right, because spirit going to look at you like, you know better.

Speaker 2:

You see what's so great. You know better that is so true.

Speaker 3:

I'm about to get whipped for not obeying the right way. I'm about to get on you real quick.

Speaker 4:

I'm about to get on your head.

Speaker 3:

I'm about to make you have this type of dream, to where I came to you and I'm about to show you. You should do this.

Speaker 2:

So now fix it, get it right.

Speaker 3:

I still struggle with about to show you you should do this, yeah, so now fix it, get it right, okay. So it's on you, so it's on you, so it's on you.

Speaker 1:

So it's basically on you. That's real. It's based on that part. Fix it, get it right, get right, yeah, right, yeah, for real. We're about to jump on the family part real quick. Let me wrap this up. But how does spirituality shape family dynamics and traditions? How do you feel that spirituality shaped family dynamics and traditions?

Speaker 5:

um, I don't know. I really can't connect to that question because myself and my family we don't.

Speaker 1:

We don't see eye to eye when it comes to that, well, you're connected to it because you and your family don't see eye to eye when it comes to that. Well, you're connected to it because you and your family don't see eye to eye on it. You see what I'm saying. Connected in what way? What do you mean? Because you're basically saying that you and your family don't connect when it comes to spirituality. So you're basically giving your answer y'all don't connect to it.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I don't connect to it, I just don't. I don't know. They see their ways. They're very catholic, they're very, and I'm not. So I'm okay with that yeah, it's like that that's real and I don't really like to put too much uh focus into something that is just so negative. Right, if they're not going to accept me? For who I am then I just keep it moving yeah, that's all you can do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what about you, marquise?

Speaker 2:

For me the way I can answer that question. I can't wait to become a guardian angel for the descendants in my family, like I mean as far as like because, again, just like my family, they own different. You know religious paths and stuff. So when I'm sitting up here, you know just thinking to myself now. You know our ancestors, our loved ones that have passed and gone. You know they looking back, looking at all of us in church and all doing all this stuff like.

Speaker 4:

I really got it all backwards.

Speaker 2:

Y'all really have no clue. So I'll be thinking about that and I'm like man, when I'm back with my uh loved ones and stuff, or when I'm in the in that other round, I can't wait to sit up there and be that one that's called on to sit up there and avenge one of my descendants or something I'm gonna be like probably a great, great, great uncle or somebody along the way god bless me to let me have some kids for my grandkids?

Speaker 2:

they won't even know what's coming. And then on top of that too, like maybe on down the line there will be you know more or another, somebody, that's that black sheep or that one that's into you know that different stuff and chosen one I'll be there. You know what I'm saying. They'll they're gonna know, because I'm not gonna. You know, as I'm growing right, I'm stepping into my essence, so I'm, yeah, my, my family and everybody going to know you know. So, yeah, they going to know.

Speaker 4:

What about you? I feel that my family, they see me and they think I'm a whole weirdo and that's okay. You know, they're like you're an alien, you know.

Speaker 4:

I'm like you're right, I'm not, you know, they're like you're an alien. I'm like you're right, I'm not, you know, but like I, honestly they don't. I mean my dad doesn't agree. My mom, she has an open mind, you know, but she has different beliefs and that's okay. But I just, honestly, I can't really, I mean I can't really connect because it's like you know, they just I'm going to do me, you know. I am who I am, and that's it. That's it. That's real, all right, what about you?

Speaker 3:

Well, my mom man, she knows, like, because, like she always been telling me since I was a kid, you're special, something about you, you're special, you're special're special and um, and I never understood why, but you know, still finding out more things in in this extension but, um, we could talk and it's like and I talked for a long time, she knows what going on. What's going on because she can see, she knows what's going on. I'm like, no, nothing, nothing, I'm good, stop lying to me, baby, I understand, I know what's going on, talk to me. So we are into him. We talk a lot. You know me and her talks a lot. You know about a lot. But on the other hand, my baby sister, she's like don't understand my other brothers and sisters they you know, everybody's all spread out, but me and my mom we like we cool.

Speaker 3:

I don't say much, so I'm starting to step into more who I am. But so she knows. She knows that I'm different from everybody else. But when I'm at home, here comes Mr Philosophical, here comes the crazy guy, here comes the person that think he knows everything. But I don't know everything.

Speaker 3:

I just know what I know and I can help you out with certain things that you don't know, and I can probably learn something from you Exactly. So you know, I have an open mind when I talk to people but also, when I'm talking, I'm also listening to myself too to re-interact me, to re-fix things in me, because it's a reminder. All this is what I'm really talking about. It's a reminder to myself, so I'm not just speaking to. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:

I mean me personally. You know, growing up in a family where my parents were Jehovah Witnesses and a lot of my aunties, uncles, grandparents. I feel like when I finally broke out of this shell and told my parents what I did and who I was, they accepted it. They didn't say, oh, we don't want to talk to you anymore because of what you did. They accepted it because at the end of the day I'm grown, I can do what I want to do. I can actually communicate and talk to my father about stuff. He can relate. He don't get all in it, but he will listen to what I have to say. So my brother he's spiritual. My sister, she's still not fully tapped in. I don't know why, but she's.

Speaker 5:

I guess, afraid of something. And my other brother? He's a Muslim, so none of us are.

Speaker 1:

Jehovah's Witnesses. As you can see, that's just something we did not decide to go into, but we are more leaning toward the spiritual side. So I guess, as far as my family, they understand and know what it is that I do and what my brother, what he's into, because he's spiritual as well, but they don't knock us and make us feel bad. My mom, she don't really like for me to talk to her, so that's why I talk to my father more, because he can understand, because his grandparents did practice and do the stuff that I'm doing.

Speaker 1:

So, he's more understanding and open-minded, but I feel like when it comes to family, some of them are not going to be understanding and open-minded, because Some of them are not going to be understanding and open-minded because they're just closed-minded. They don't want to know what you got going on, what it is that you believe in, what it is that you're doing, because that's just how they were trained. You know from their past relatives, loved ones, ancestors and stuff. But me, I'm more open-minded and you know I'm happy that my father is starting to be more open-minded and he can understand what it is when I tell him. You know, I got a reading today. They said this, this, this, that, like he don't sit here and be like I don't want to hear about that.

Speaker 1:

He listens you know, and I feel in my heart that if he wasn't a Jehovah Witness, he would be spiritual, because he's very intuitive. Yeah, my father be predicting and telling me things it's going to be happening to do so. You know, I do feel that he is, but again he decided to be what he is, so I have to respect that. So yeah, so I want the answer to that?

Speaker 3:

because it's crazy, because, like what I've been noticing, like even the people that go to church, they be getting terrible too, and they don't tell you nothing about it but they don't tell you nothing about it, but they want to get that. Look at you like you're doing something wrong, but you getting terrible at the same time and you getting this at the same time. But then again it's like, it's so crazy because like come on let's, let's be straight up you know what I'm saying like, but but you saw on this hill.

Speaker 3:

But you want to go and get terror too, but you want to look at it, say, oh, if you're doing it well, it's wrong, it's bad, yeah but you back doing, you get it in the background or they get like oh, I think you have a curse or a hex on me.

Speaker 5:

I'm first of all. How do you know you have a curse on?

Speaker 3:

me.

Speaker 5:

And second of all, shouldn't you just pray to God to remove that?

Speaker 3:

from you Right, right, right, and no offense to anybody. No, no offense at all.

Speaker 5:

But I'm just like why are you coming to see us?

Speaker 1:

Right. If we're so bad and what we're doing is wrong, it's terrible and it's frowned upon.

Speaker 5:

Then it's kind of like why do you want a candle to help you to remove the energy? Yeah, and I'd ask, I'd ask one of my homeboys.

Speaker 3:

He's in the church and I was like do you believe in this? He's like, yeah, I believe in certain things. I'm like why you look at people for to help you with it, why you look at them as a bad person if you believe in this. Come on, man. You know we live in a magical realm yeah thank you, let's be real man. Yeah, let's be real. They use, they've been using it for years. Yes, years and years and years.

Speaker 5:

You know I'm saying so I don't know if anybody has heard that like everything is uh, everything is nothing and nothing is everything I've heard that, yes, and that's where we are in right now everything is is something, but something is nothing.

Speaker 4:

Right which is yin and yang?

Speaker 1:

Yeah for sure. Balanced Me too, right. Well, do anybody have anything they want to share with the viewers before we get ready to end this great episode for today? Yeah, you have anything you want to share with the viewers?

Speaker 2:

I guess like just hearing collectively everybody on here stick to your guns, be yourself and fuck everybody. You know the hell with it, shit it's just going to stress you out.

Speaker 5:

You have one life and when that life starts clicking, that's it. You can't go back and redo it, that is so good.

Speaker 1:

It's not returning. So what about you, hun, that's it yeah, yeah yeah what about you hon?

Speaker 4:

basically what he said just be yourself. You know, because I mean people are going to talk regardless, so just keep doing you.

Speaker 3:

Yes as within as without, as above so below. I share, yes, you know what I'm saying. I share to that Above so below. I see, yes, you know what I'm saying. I see today.

Speaker 1:

My thing is this you know, regardless if spirituality affects family, friendship or relationships, you should not let it affect you as a person. If this is something that you want to do in your heart, do it. If the other person isn't on the bandwagon, guess what? Let them stay where they at. You continue to go to the next level and eventually they'll either come or they can get left behind. But at the end of the day, I know like always drop your feedback down low and like share comment and subscribe.

Speaker 1:

And comment and subscribe, and until share and comment and subscribe, and until the next episode. Peace Bye, I got so tired.

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