T3 (Training Together on Tuesdays)
Fan-ilow
This episode unlocks surprising training secrets nestled within popular music. Join your favorite trainers as they analyze the magic of storytelling, authenticity, and emotional engagement. From timeless hits to hidden wisdom, discover how music can translate into powerful training techniques. This isn't just a tribute to a musical icon; it's a masterclass in captivating your audience and leaving a lasting impact on your trainees. So, grab your headphones and prepare to be surprised by the unexpected guru of engaging learning! - Barry Manilow!
This episode unlocks surprising training secrets nestled within popular music. Join your favorite trainers as they analyze the magic of storytelling, authenticity, and emotional engagement. From timeless hits to hidden wisdom, discover how music can translate into powerful training techniques. This isn't just a tribute to a musical icon; it's a masterclass in captivating your audience and leaving a lasting impact on your trainees. So, grab your headphones and prepare to be surprised by the unexpected guru of engaging learning! - Barry Manilow!
Hi there, welcome to T3 training together on Tuesdays. My name is Trina and with me is not just one, but two Tonys Tony C and Tony V. Ayan, let's go. We are so blessed with the two Tonys in today's podcast. So, as always, we're here, and we're here to learn from each other's tales, share tips and discover new tools. So, by the way, tony V here is one of our top fans, nax. Thank you, tony V. You're welcome, hello, and we're delighted to have her with us today. She was the one who suggested the episode title actually for today's episode, so welcome to the podcast. Finally, tony V, we're very happy you can join us.
Speaker 2:Hello, thank you for inviting me. It's my pleasure.
Speaker 1:I'm nervous, so please, we're just a little bit nervous here, as always, but thank you again for accepting our invite. So in this episode it's a very well, at least for me, it's a little nostalgic because we're going to talk about music and we're going to explore the world of music, specifically that of a music icon whose songs have made a huge impact in one way or another over many generations. We're a bit batched, we're a generation, but I'm sure people from other eras or generations maybe you can still recognize the songs of this music artist because it's timeless. So just to give you a hint, the hit songs include Can't Smile Without you there, copacabana and Copacabana this one's for you and many, many others. Right? So we've only referred to this episode as Fanilo. We're all fans, we're fans of Barry Manilow, that's why Fanilo. So there, tony V, what do you think? The title is brilliantly so there. So our topic is interesting and I hope you'll find this episode interesting as well. For starters, let's dive deep into some of the Barry songs and what they mean to us.
Speaker 3:Barry is really like Barry.
Speaker 1:I've been with him for a long time in my life. I mean, obviously he's a lot older than us and I think he's a kid. I've heard his songs before, so I think he should drink Barry. Or a cool uncle, cool uncle, definitely cool uncle. So what are your favorite Barry Manilow songs and even memorable lyrics that you can remember from his songs? So who'd like to begin? Tony? Who's the first? Because you said you're doing research, right, you're bingeing. So what's your binge?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's correct. I also researched last night.
Speaker 3:Because I'm a bit late. I started to work on our research and stuff like that, so I was on Spotify last night with Barry. I was like Barry. I was like for those who have a day or stress.
Speaker 1:That's a perfect time because he's got songs.
Speaker 3:Because Tony and V have this idea, the promoter. I said gosh, what's that?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. 12, last dose, and then you're alone.
Speaker 3:So even my dogs were listening to the Barry Manilow songs. And then another one Lesson and choice. So I think the most social. I say some of my favorites. I think the one that stuck to me is the Somewhere Down the Road, and the reason behind that is because this is the first, and then I also like the Even Now and the other one it's like the Kodav Bins, the present. Even we're not together, I still like you, or something.
Speaker 2:I still remember you and the feeling is still the same.
Speaker 3:Correct, that's our lyrics, even now, even now, and then. I also like the old songs.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, we're all I love, I remember the songs I chose.
Speaker 3:We're not meant now, but maybe someday Down the road.
Speaker 2:I don't remember the songs.
Speaker 1:We had the right love at the wrong time.
Speaker 3:I remember the songs because that's the theme songs of the movie by Richard Gomez and Sharon Conneta, the one that was sometimes when, where in America. That's it, and that's one of her cuts in the soundtrack for that movie. So I can't forget that. Sorry, I know Sharon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's Sharon, Tony C.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:I know you need this.
Speaker 3:My favorite among the many, many good ones is Barry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually we are the same, so it's basically, it's somewhere down the road, even now, could it be?
Speaker 1:magic.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, and ready to take a chance again.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Yeah, those are, of course, stories of the people in the world.
Speaker 3:It's like the stories are the same.
Speaker 2:Yes, your friends, your type, but what he wants is my bar. And there was a time that we were in college, barry Manalo came to the Philippines. He came to the Philippines to hold a concert. So we were in college then and a guy friend asked me hey, let's watch. I was like, okay, I'm gay, I'm not a sobrant type, but I was like what if? He was like what if for me? And he invited me, so I'm gay. And then I didn't realize he invited my other friend. Okay, so we were in the concert. Oh my gosh, that's very sweet. He said that I was the third wheel. Oh my gosh, what the hell is this? And I can see them. They liked each other and I was like beside them and I was like so what's the song for that?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, maybe the somewhere down the road and weekend New England.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I thought about that.
Speaker 2:So when I went home that night, I don't know what to feel like. What the hell did just happen, I know. So when I was working I also liked this guy. It became us, but we broke up because he wasn't exactly the nicest guy around. But one time he tried to get back to me. And when he got back to me, of course I was happy and I was playing the old times. Yes, to bring back the old times.
Speaker 1:I knew he was ready to take a chance?
Speaker 3:again.
Speaker 2:He didn't resonate, but I remember when my heart broke. I would, after coming home from the office, I would listen to one hour of Barry Manilow's songs.
Speaker 3:And I would be like, oh, there you go.
Speaker 2:Barry was really the companion? Yes, he was. My companion Would be binge.
Speaker 3:I can't binge, like on a soundtrack. I'm like I'm gonna probably you know what songs. You said songs from the Wee, is that what you said? Yes, the Wee. I'm like these are the best songs for me. So I mean, you know, you're like, oh my God. So it's super long cut. If you really want to let it out, then that's the song to hear. But I can't binge.
Speaker 2:I can't, but for some reason I'm so sad I would listen to it and I really listened to the lyrics. I feel the lyrics of that time. He's analyzing it, I'm analyzing it. Oh, my God, this is so perfect to me. So Barry Manilow is you don't want to hear his songs, but for some reason you're drawn to him.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly. Actually it's great that you mentioned that, because for some they find Barry's songs a bit cheesy, you know, or sometimes even cringy, especially if you're not in that place where he sings. But for some reason you find yourself singing along to his songs. You can't help it right? Because I don't know, it has that sort of magical I don't touch, that really reaches out and like what is called it pulls you in.
Speaker 1:It draws you in Exactly Especially you two, youtun C and Tony V. The last last pulls, these are the ones that are waiting for you. The Hopi, the famous Hopi. I mean, yes, the Hopi, the famous Hopi. I mean I guess that's also me. But me, if I may share, I like those songs definitely, like especially the Somewhere Down the Road. That's what I've been repeating before, but for me, like lately, it's like it's more resonating with me. The other songs, like, for instance it's love songs too, but I think you can also think of it in another perspective Like, for instance, I Made it Through the Rain. Are you guys familiar with that? That's also a nice song? Yes, of course, because it's all about. For me, it talks about overcoming whatever challenges you have, regardless if it's about love or any other trials you have in life. So it's like very universal themes. That's right.
Speaker 1:And then one favorite of mine as well is this one's for you, this one's for all the love. Again, it's a love song. When you look at it, it's also unconditional. It's like a gift. It's my offering to you, whatever it is, if it's love or your life, it's just so. It resonates with me because it talks about giving, so, whether it's to a beloved or to a loved one, a family or friends. So it's just again for me, super timeless.
Speaker 1:And then one last. I'm going to sing a song I also like. It's not something I can relate to Perse based on his lyrics, but I just love the way the song is. I don't know, it's probably not so popular. It's called Sandra. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but in that song it's more. No, yeah, I've heard it a long, long time ago, but every time I hear it I love it, even if I can't relate to the lyrics, because first, it has a great melody. And one thing I like about it it's storytelling. It's like watching a TV series. It talks about this person named Sandra, and then it's like her housewife. There are kids and she thinks about what her life could have been if she had not married that early. So there's that aspect, that song. Even if I can't really relate to it on that level, I just love that it's such a storytelling piece. How he writes it, super love goyon how he writes it. For me it's brilliant.
Speaker 2:He's a great songwriter and it hits home right away.
Speaker 3:It captures all the rightful feelings. Anyone can say that's my song. That happened to me. It's relatable Exactly.
Speaker 2:Relatable, even if others will not admit it.
Speaker 1:Yes, even if they don't want to admit it and the way it's weaved together.
Speaker 3:it's really nice.
Speaker 1:Exactly. His songs are really super relatable and I think that's the brilliance of Barry Manilow, and his songwriting also, although for some songs he didn't write all of his songs, but the way he delivers it as well, the way he produced it, the way he sang it, you can really relate. This is my question, while we're doing a deep dive of his songs what do you think makes Barry's songs so classic and enduring, even throughout the generations? Because Barry was born in the 1970s and 1980s, but until now, I think he's already in his 80s, that's how he's remembered, but the other songs are still really relatable.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's already in his 80s, but he's already in his 80s because he was born in the 1970s and 80s, but until now he's still there. What do you think? Why do you think his music is so lasting and enduring? Do you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 3:One is that his themes are universal in nature. It's what people feel Joy, hope, sadness, unconditional love, the longing. It's hard to talk about this, but that's true. I made it all human feelings. Unless you're a robot or an AI, you cannot relate, even the person with the hardest part or the song. That's for me.
Speaker 2:I think you said it earlier. It's the way he writes the songs. It's like he's telling a story and it's easy to follow, as compared for me to the way songs are written. Now, I'm very much a classic person. I'm not like a Swifty. I don't follow how she writes, but it's very easy to imagine what's going on through the song. You can put yourself inside that song. That's what makes him stand out.
Speaker 1:Timeless, even if he's talking about. Until now, even if we don't admit it, we'll stop and we'll still listen to vary Exactly that's what makes his music and his lyrics timeless, even if he was talking about something in a different era or generation. He's super timeless, I agree with you guys, because he's super relatable. That's why he endures all throughout these generations, and he speaks of themes that everyone can relate to.
Speaker 1:And since all of us are trainers, I want to see the parallelism and similarities that we can learn, not just trainers but as people. But since we're in the line of training, I think we can pick up a lot of things also from Barry the takeaways, just like what you said, tony V, from the way he writes. It can be applicable also to what we do as training professionals. So what do you think those are? Like you personally, what can you take away from the training environment? Because he's also an artist In a way, we're artists, but our line is different.
Speaker 2:I did a little bit of research on Barry and why he's still relevant today. One he's stuck to his strengths, which is like songwriting that's his core, that's his strength. So he did try to change somehow, but it did not appeal to the people. I think he tried writing a different genre, but he didn't get hit. So he went back to his core competency, which is writing about the love songs Coming from his experience. So he made use of that. So, for me, if you know your strengths, stick with it, and if you have a good product, people will appreciate it Exactly.
Speaker 1:People will patronize you. Yeah, I agree. Of course, different artists have different things to offer. Okay, and same thing with trainers. No, we're all different from each other. We have the same goal, which is to teach, which is to share learning, facilitate learning, but we do these things in our own, with a set of like what you said set of strengths and skills that you're given, and I think being authentic is such an important part of any artist's product or journey, same as for us trainers. Because when you talk about training I mean we're in front of people you can say we're, in a sense, performing. There's some aspect of it, a bit of a performance, but if it's all about just performing, I don't think that can be sustained as well. Your authentic self has to come out because ultimately, people will find out, people will see through you and if whatever you're putting out to your training or audience isn't real, yes, yes, they will know, they will smell that, so to speak, there's a sniff you if you're a true one or not.
Speaker 2:Yes, they know that plastic.
Speaker 3:Yeah with you, without even trying. It's like the same too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, from my end, I think, the simple and direct, because the songs of Barry Manilow, but the intense of your coming. It's simple longing for someone or the hopes, the emotions that you didn't get. By the way, what is na hopia? Na hopia meaning? So it's a slang word which means you hope, but you didn't get your favorite deal.
Speaker 2:I like that. I love that.
Speaker 1:Hope you love me too. Like that, I'm the thing.
Speaker 3:I hope you love me too, like that. So na hopia ka umasa, but you didn't get it. You didn't get anything.
Speaker 2:I like that. I will make use of that. I add it in your vocabulary.
Speaker 3:Correct, correct. So that's it. It's simple the message, but the intense of the thing. So I think, as trainers, when we communicate our messages, whatever the concept is, it has to be simple and direct, but the impact should be great. The impact should be great.
Speaker 1:There's beauty and simplicity. There's beauty and simplicity, and you don't have to complicate a lot of things.
Speaker 2:Ah, yes, just to tie in somehow to her, to Tony C's simplicity message the reason also why Barry is laughing this long, of course. I read this, which makes sense. He's very quiet, he's very private. He doesn't hear much from him, aside from performing. But he's not into those, there's no interest in him, so he just sticks to his guns, he just performs, he just does his best, that's it. So he's there. He's been around for many decades now. He's just low-key, Low-key. Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Not the low-key evil low-key.
Speaker 1:Oh no, not the Marvel. It's like low-key instead of looking at him. It's his songs that you see, it's his songs that you hear that speak to you. So, as trainers also, at the end of the day, we can forget our trainees, but hopefully our goal is whatever we taught them is what remains, what they'll remember, what they feel after, what they feel after the training program, the training session, exactly because those really. That's the impact.
Speaker 3:And I should also say that Yunga, his pieces are really timeless, so any generation can actually appreciate it. Well, you know the younger people now. Probably they don't know him, but I'm sure if they start listening to him they will also feel the same degree of intensity and the same impact that you know we, the older ones, have. Actually what benefited earlier than them? Oh, I don't want to gatekeep. So it's timeless, it's going to give you the same impact. It's like what do you call this? The principle of what do you call that? The reliability of any content. So multiple assessors will give it, but it's the same content and the impact is the same. Yeah, exactly, oh, I'm still paying for that.
Speaker 1:There are a lot of releases and hopefully, if there are people who are listening to us and we're not a generation, I hope this. If you don't know Barry, I hope you can you know we can entice you to explore his music, because you really won't be able to see him. There are many different impacts on you because you are also different, but for me at least, I guarantee you even one song, I'm sure you can. You can find something that you can relate to amongst his very wide discography, because it's like he's a treasurer in terms of music. Music icon Next, really funny low.
Speaker 2:Funny low. Next funny low. So if Barry comes, if he has a schedule here, we will watch.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, because once in a lifetime- Once in a lifetime.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my gosh, he's not shy.
Speaker 1:But I mean seriously, I mean I'm virtual or live streaming.
Speaker 3:Live streaming Subscribe Right, I would. You might be tired.
Speaker 2:That's true. Let them do the K-pop. Not many people will admit it, but they're secret fanilos. They will not say it out in the open.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, in the closet.
Speaker 3:Give away to the age, oh, k-bern, but I just want to say we're beyond that already. So if we like somebody like Barry Manilow, we'll just have to say it, there's no problem.
Speaker 2:That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm proud he was very wide open flag and it's not as if he's just someone, but he's really someone.
Speaker 1:He's a legend. Legend, that's it. He's considered a legend already. Oh yes.
Speaker 3:So if you don't know Barry Manilow, I want to say who are you Right? Why don't you know?
Speaker 1:him who? Oh right, who you? I'm just curious. Yeah, we need to know him. That's our goal. Where you all this time? Yeah, and that's easy access to all of these other music platforms, so it's easy to digest music like this.
Speaker 1:So I had a great conversation with you, fannilow, co-fannilow. It's like a walk down memory in Thank you, and we weren't just talking about how Barry Manilow's music impacted us, but hopefully our listeners also learned a lot, not just in terms of music, but also in terms of their own line of work, line of profession, because you can really pull a lot from Barry. What is it? His impact is not just in your personal life, yes, but also in your professional life. So I really like what I said. He's such a jewel, he's so flexible. So that's it, thank you. He's really flexed. He's selling his part, I'm not kidding. I hope Barry can listen, if you're listening.
Speaker 3:Come to the Philippines.
Speaker 2:Listening Come to the Philippines, please. We'll be your Fannilow's fangirl. Put us in the front row.
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Speaker 2:Thanks guys, thank you for having me, bye, bye.