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The Price You Pay
Host Natalie Cook, Olympic gold medalist and five-time Olympian, shares the inspiring and untold stories of athletes who face financial obstacles in their pursuit of becoming Olympian's and Paralympian’s.
Discover the sacrifices, challenges, and unwavering determination behind their pursuit of greatness.
Be inspired by their resilience and determination to turn their dreams into reality.
The Price You Pay
08: Bouncing to New Heights: Hudson Brown's Trampoline Dreams
Today, we are excited to share the inspiring story of Hudson Brown, a trampolinist with Olympic-sized dreams, and the unwavering support from his mother, Melissa. Take off with us as we chart Hudson's journey from a bouncing backyard enthusiast to a competitor on the world stage, and uncover the dedication and sheer joy found in the heart of a young athlete aiming for the stars.
Hudson was first inspired by the 2016 Rio Games and felt the importance of donning his first Australian tracksuit, a symbol of his national team selection and a powerful moment for his family.
We go beyond the trampoline to explore how his character, shaped by discipline and focus, shines through in all aspects of his life, from school reports to social settings. Alongside Melissa, we celebrate the commitment required in the world of competitive sports, revealing a story that resonates with families nurturing the dreams of their young champions.
But what does it take to support the aspirations of future Aussie Athletes like Hudson? We tackle the challenges of finding funding and community support, sharing the Brown family's experience in navigating these hurdles.
Their story is a call to action for all of us to become a part of an athlete's journey, highlighting the impact of community involvement and storytelling in fostering the growth of Australia's sporting talent.
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My name is Talika Clancy and I'm a proud Wiliwili woman, and I wish to acknowledge the land on which the Price you Pay podcast is being recorded Minnijin Country. We pay homage to the tradition of storytelling when we share athlete journeys and we extend our respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
Speaker 2:I'm Nat Cook, five-time Olympian and gold medalist. Welcome to season two of the Price you Pay podcast, where we explore the hidden costs and barriers young athletes face in their pursuit of sporting greatness. Come with us as we delve into the lives of young athletes and their families to better understand what it truly takes to reach their dreams.
Speaker 3:Our conversation today is with a young athlete whose sport allows him to fly through the air. Hudson Brown is a trampolinist. His sport became Olympic at the Sydney 2000 Games, where Australia's Jai Wallace won a silver medal as a recent selection into the Australian trampoline squad heading to the World Cup in Portugal. Hudson is the new generation of talent in this acrobatic sport. Joining a local PCYC at only seven years old, hudson took to the trampoline instantly and was winning medals from the very start. He did not come from a gymnastics background, which is rare, and so it was his determination and drive for perfection that kept moving him up the ranks. Even when his family moved to the UK for two years, he merely got on their competitive bandwagon and went from strength to strength in a whole other country. Upon the family's return to Queensland in 2020, hudson successfully represented his state and then jumped to the global stage, competing at the World Age Championships in Birmingham, uk stage competing at the World Age Championships in Birmingham, uk.
Speaker 3:It's no surprise that mom Melissa Brown is joining the conversation with us today, as she never misses a competition, and it has been said that Hudson always looks for her just before he starts his first jump. The perfect companion, as Hudson braves his very first podcast interview today. Perfect companion, as Hudson Braves' very first podcast interview today. And it's been said that maybe mom is just as nervous. So welcome to the Price you Pay. Podcast you two.
Speaker 4:Thank you Thank you Okay.
Speaker 3:So we know, hudson, that you have brave nerves and do acrobatic feats, so today will be much easier because all we have to do is talk about you and your sport. So, before we jump deeper into the whole chat, can you give us a lesson in trampolining, like it's different disciplines and which ones you enjoy the most?
Speaker 4:All right. So there's. There's three disciplines trampoline, double, mini trampoline and tumbling. Trampoline is the only like Olympic sport. The other two are just world championship sports, so they don't go to the Olympics for those ones. So basically, tramp is like it's scored. There's like four or five main components that add to your score and it's how high you jump, how well you perform your skills where you are on the trampoline, and then there's like any deductions and then your difficulty, how hard the skills you do, and that's the same throughout all three disciplines. Really, yeah, my personal favourite is tramp. I'm not much of a tumbler, don't really enjoy double mini as much. I've always enjoyed tramp and I now only compete tramp. I used to do some double mini, I used to do some tumbling, but now I'm mainly competing with tramp.
Speaker 3:Okay. So I have to admit we have a trampoline outside. The eight-year-old gets out there and I have a feeling it doesn't look anything like what you do. So when you're talking about height and being judged on that, so you're talking like a panel of judges, like how do they measure that?
Speaker 4:So there's a panel of about six judges and there's no judge for the flight time. So how high you're jumping? There's a machine that would that. Yeah, that's near like the tramps and it will. It measures how long you're in the air for. So every time you hit the tramp it stops, because you're everyone's different. Some people might sink into the tramp more, some people might just go in and out really quickly. So, for it to be fair, it um measures all the time you're out of the trampoline, the actual air. And there's also a machine for HD, which is horizontal displacement, which is where you are on the trampoline. So there's a bunch of different boxes and every time you go out of the middle square you get a deduction. So your goal is to stay in the middle.
Speaker 3:Wow, no wonder you're a perfectionist.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, that thing would be beeping. I'd be like flinging off the. You know Melissa, we'd be no good. Um, okay, so I have like lots of questions now because this is really interesting. So when you rock up to the local PCYC and you're seven years old, like what's the difference between all the other kids who just bounce around and do silly stuff and you winning medals, like how does that transition happen?
Speaker 4:well, as you said, I'm a little bit of a perfectionist, so I think I'm not. I'm not much of the go and do the crazy stuff and just chop it. I'm very safe. I guess you would say like I don't, I don't do things that I know I can probably do, but I'm until they're perfect, sort of thing. So I was very, very slow learner but like good at what I was doing, sort of thing, just mucking around and stuff got it that that makes sense to me.
Speaker 3:I get what you're saying. I can sort of distinguish what would make you different in hearing that. It sounds a little bit like how my daughter can be too. So I get, I sort of get it. So talk before we sort of understand the journey. What is a typical training week like for you now?
Speaker 4:so, um, I'm training at about five times a week, just Monday through Friday, and then I also have strength and conditioning um work that I do on the side, which is about three days a week.
Speaker 3:And yeah, it's probably about it a week and, yeah, it's probably about it. Well, that's a lot, but yeah, got it okay. Um, so, mom, welcome, you've been very patient. She was like literally chewing her lips to make sure she didn't, like, add anything to what you normally do. Hey, mom, I'm a mom too. I got it. Um, but I do want to know about parenting a child who starts a sport so young, you know, seven years old, like that, and you know how does this just take us through, how this even came into your life, a sport like trampoline, which is a little bit more rare.
Speaker 5:Yeah, well, hudson was the kid who wanted to try every sport known to man. So we started with the typical the soccer, the thank God, not cricket but there was gymnastics and dance, just a few little things, and he didn't really like it. But in dance he was very like, very good. He had beautiful point and they kept commenting on the way he was able to execute, like his arms and legs, and I'm like I don't know, he's just shaking a pom-pom, he's like four, whatever. But then one of his friends from school said hey, do you want to try trampolining? So he's like I want to do trampolining.
Speaker 5:I did not know that that was a thing, so I had to Google it. I'm like, oh, okay, we'll go to the PCYC. And he was there for three weeks before he comes to me and said I'm doing a competition, wow. And I thought, right, what, what are you doing? And then he told me he had a whole routine, he had all this stuff. I had no idea. So we just went with it and um took him to his very first competition and he got a medal and from that moment on, this is cool.
Speaker 3:So yeah, we're hearing that. I love that because I think it's really relatable that you've never even heard of it. How could you? You can't plan it, you can't vision it it's, and yet somehow he's got that little something with his like, like you say, his point. There was something that was special Hudson about you, but you couldn't have combined it into trampoline at the time. So that is sort of a curiosity I have, hudson, about your dreams for trampoline, like I mean, it was Olympic I suppose by the time you started. So can you recall when you started to think about the Olympics and how that shape happened?
Speaker 4:I mean, well, as a young kid, like mum said, I did a bunch of different sports and so I always I've always like knew the Olympics was a thing like watching, like especially watching, like the Rio Olympics, like that was cool and that was cool. And that was probably the first time I was old enough to understand what it actually was. And so, like I've done it, I did a bunch of sports and I was like, oh, I'm gonna go to the Olympics for swimming, I'm gonna go to the Olympics for triathlon, I'm gonna go to the Olympics for soccer. I did a bunch of those but I really really tramp, like clicked really well. So I think, after just understanding more about this book because at first I'm like, oh, it's just, I'm just having fun, I don't really know what I'm doing, but it's starting to more get oh, I want to do that, I want to go all the way and stuff, yeah.
Speaker 3:Very cool. So are you saying that you almost had an Olympic dream before you had a trampoline Olympic dream?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah got it.
Speaker 3:Can you remember what you saw like maybe it was in 2016,. Like in the Rio Games. Can you remember what you saw that made you want that yeah?
Speaker 4:I think in the 2016 games. I really remember watching the diving, and I thought that was really cool how they do all the flips, and we had a go at diving. I didn't really like it because the water hurt my ears, so I think that's what it was. I like the dry land aspect of it, though, which is also another reason why I stuck with tramp, because it's the same thing.
Speaker 3:but yeah, I think watching those, just watching everything, it's the whole atmosphere about it, I know, and like having the 2032 Olympics be in Brisbane, like is that, just like all of your Christmases coming converging? That's pretty cool it is very cool for you. So can you share? So you know you have a dream, you're watching, you're seeing the divers, you're thinking that's pretty cool, you're starting to get into trampoline, you're starting to win medals. But can you share about the moment you found out you received your first Australian track suit?
Speaker 4:it was. It was a pretty cool moment. It was me and mum were just in the car, we were on the way to training and I got a message from one of my friends who is also, who was also on the team, and she was like, oh, the selections are out. And I was like, okay, we hadn't gotten an email. So I was like, oh, there was like I didn't say anything to mom yet, but I grabbed her phone and I went and checked and we had gotten an email. So I was like there's probably a bit of screaming between the two of us there's lots of screaming, a little bit but it was such a cool moment to, yeah, find out did mom cry
Speaker 3:mom didn't, but dad was bawling yeah, oh, let's just, let's give a shout out. What's dad's name, chris? We love a man that cries. Chris, you've just gone up in my books, you know what, and I have to admit when I read that I got teary. So, oh, it's a funny thing, isn't it? It's like we all have dreams, so it's really cool to like.
Speaker 3:Sometimes when you're in them it's almost not as much as when you reflect back on it. So I love that story, so thank you for sharing it, and I think a lot of different athletes have it. But it's really nice to talk about it because it it kind of like brings stuff up for people, so it's beautiful.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
Speaker 3:So, mom, as a parent, what do you notice as your child moves from that sporty love to something they start devoting most of their time to? Hmm, yes, Hmm.
Speaker 5:Yes, well, he's, he still loves it. So the love of it hasn't gone anywhere, but the the single-eyed dedication has been. It's actually been really cool to see, because he he is a perfectionist in everything he does, like even choosing subjects for school was a ordeal because he didn't want to choose it wrong and he was very, you know, read it all and did all the research and I'm like, like I said, I'm near enough is good enough.
Speaker 5:I'm like it's fine, do whatever, but yeah. So it's really cool to see a kid because I think when he's really honed in on it was probably when we got back from the UK and he sort of moved up to the international stream of competing and it was like wow, he's only 13 years old and he was so focused and so driven and still is, and it's, it's. It's actually really inspiring, because I've never been that way.
Speaker 3:So to watch him do that, yeah, sometimes I feel like he's an alien and was adopted, but other than that it's, yeah, it's pretty cool if you, with this alien, if you were to put his like reports through AI and come up with the common comments that he would get from teachers, mom, what would it be Like? You guys can talk about this, but what would? What's the overall comment about Hudson in school?
Speaker 5:He's a lovely boy to get along with is what I hear a lot. Also, he listens so well, which is very interesting to me, Just not at home. Yes, so we've always joked like the things that they used to tell us about Hudson. We're like, really, really. But you know you like them outside the house to be that way.
Speaker 3:So friend calls that forward-facing, which is like very funny comment. So shout-out to Binnie who always says, oh good, forward-facing when the kids are doing lovely things like that outside of the home. Well done, Hudson. I want to know about how you fit school friends, social sport Like. How do you manage all that?
Speaker 4:I'd say I'm pretty good with it. With school, I just tend to get things done during the week. Luckily at my school we have half days on Wednesdays, which help a lot. So I have an extra three hours in my week to probably do that stuff, because I wouldn't be training at that time anyway. So that stuff can mainly go to my schoolwork. But other than that I just get a lot of schoolwork done in class and friends and social life. I think I'm mostly like most normal people maybe couldn't do things after school on like weekdays, but most of my weekends are free, unless I'm in a comp somewhere in the world or just in Queensland, but yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know I I have never really thought about this until just now, but with like technology and phones and stuff because you are like jumping up and down for hours a day, would you say you're less on your social media, like less on phones and tech than your friends.
Speaker 4:I mean. Well, there's definitely. I feel like it would definitely be a lot less being at least three hours of my day in the office where people would be on their phones and technology. I'm not.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:Yes, I would say there would be a bit of a difference, and do you notice that difference, Meaning the minute you get off, like practice?
Speaker 3:are you grabbing your phone like everyone else? You still have it, or are you a bit different?
Speaker 4:Not really. I mean to be honest. Most of the time I just want to go to bed after training.
Speaker 3:You're tired, okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm not. I mean now that with all the school rules, with all the phone bands, I'm barely on my phone during the day. Yeah, definitely tell a difference.
Speaker 3:Cool, okay, hold on. So you've just introduced this idea of being tired, which is natural. So how do you do that? How do you manage your energy?
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, I love sleep, it's okay it's my favorite thing. Like if I'm not getting at least eight hours, I will be a bit grumpy the next day yeah, right okay and do you?
Speaker 3:have to eat certain things or like how do you manage all that?
Speaker 4:yeah, well, I always eat something before training, not too big that will make me sick when I'm jumping, because it's super easily to eat something that eat a big portion meal and start jumping, you get really sick but something that will get enough energy in me, and then after training I normally have a dinner do you have like protein shakes and things like that?
Speaker 3:does that sit well when you're jumping or not?
Speaker 4:not really. I think that's just like the milk sort of thing or even just the type of pad doesn't really sit well. I'm like more of a like little snacks, like little chickens things and sort of like that okay, so that's a good segue to mom now.
Speaker 3:So if he's, where are these little chicken snacks coming from? Is Hudson cooking them or are you cooking them, mom? Let me think no, that would be me, yes. I got it. So that's what I want to know about. What does it take to support that kind of energy need and like little snacks and all that?
Speaker 5:yeah, so it is almost. It is pretty much a full-time job. So when we came back from the UK, I don't work, I'm not working anymore. I used to work full-time um, because he's got like it's not just his training, we've got physio, we've got performance site, we've got gym work, um training. Can I can get a coach, a call from the coach saying oh, can you come at three today instead of five, and at any time. So I'm like, and he can't drive, he's only 15 um, and I have to like to keep the rest of the family going like. It's not just Hudson, we, I have a daughter um as well. So I make dinner. I make a first dinner for Hudson so he can eat it when he gets home from school straight away and then have time to digest. Then I prepare the dinner so when my husband gets off work he can sort out our daughter and himself and then we go training. We don't get back to like 8.30 at night. Wow, I'm basically from 2 in the afternoon. I belong to Hudson.
Speaker 3:Gosh, like this is the butler yeah, pretty much Butler Mel, okay, oh my gosh, that is really interesting. And then as a family, financially, how did you do?
Speaker 5:that mel, was that huge, yeah, um. Yeah. It was like, look, the opportunity of going to the uk for my husband's work afforded, like I didn't work when I was there, um, and then that was the first time in my life I hadn't worked and it was really weird. I didn't understand what people did. Now I don't know what I do either, but a lot. But coming home we decided it worked for our family better to just have me available to them, and it allowed, because Chris travels a bit. Well, he travels a lot for his job and it was hard to balance. We need to make. We don't want them to miss out. So it's just juggling lots of driving, lots of driving.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hear it and I mean because that's the challenge. Now tell me about that feeling. When he looks at you're at all the competitions, like you get to be there because you made that choice, and he looks at you just before his first jump, what's that feel like, mum?
Speaker 5:honestly that point, that just that second he does it and I sort of I always noticed he did it. I didn't know he knew he did that either. He told me one day and I'm like, oh baby, but it just, it all, just sort of that moment's what you're there for, just that second before he starts, just knowing he knows I've got him and he's got him. So we're there and like, honestly, my favorite thing is I get to spend so much time with him. He's a teenage boy. So many of my friends who have teenage boys are like, oh really, you talked, I only get grunts. We speak a lot because we're always together yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:thank you for saying that. That's really interesting because it's not just sacrifice, it's, it's on the other side of that is the beauty of like the connection that you both have and wow, that's, that's really cool. I think we should talk more about that. You know in life. So in 2018, hudson, you know you're're tracking, you're loving trampoline. Like what do you like the parents tell you we're moving to the UK? What do you think about your trampoline dreams in that moment?
Speaker 4:well, I'd say at that point of what I was doing, I'd say I was doing for like two or three years, I reckon. And so, yeah, I had made my first state team for the year we were supposed to move. And that's when I was like, oh, maybe I can start to get a little bit more real. So when I was told that I was like, okay, I need to train somewhere in the UK, so that was, I didn't want to just stop it, and because I wasn't just doing tramp, I was doing a little bit of swimming as well, but didn't really care about that. I just I just wanted to do tramp in the UK. And yeah, and we, we had no idea how big it was in the UK. It's, okay, a lot bigger in the UK than it is in Australia. So it was pretty easy to find a club to go to you went to that world event.
Speaker 3:Actually, as I was um reading about you, the global stage uk like birmingham, did you feel like more comfortable because you'd lived in the uk. Did that help at all?
Speaker 4:I mean, I had competed in that venue before. So yeah, it was. It was a little bit familiar and I had, like, one of my coaches came to watch me, so it was just really cool to be around those people again. So yeah, it would have brought me a bit more comfort yeah, that's really interesting.
Speaker 3:So, mom, what is like the cost of supporting Hudson's dreams? Like, so we talked about the driving, the, the change of work, but now he's traveling internationally more and, like you say, he's 15 so he can't go without a parent. Is that right?
Speaker 5:look, he can, he's, he's a very comfortable traveler, being when we lived over there and everything, but it's it's more us that feel we're sending him over there, we want to be there for him so they can travel as part of the team. But, yeah, giving your child over and just sending them to the other side of the world is quite hard. Yeah, and for Birmingham, like that was his first world, I had to be there come hell or high water, and we managed to. We got me there. On points I was because of the flights. I was only there on the ground for four days. So, yeah, it was no holiday. I flew in, trained to Birmingham, watched him, watched him the next day came home. So, yeah, I knew I had to be there.
Speaker 3:And doing that all on like one salary. Now, because you've made that choice as a family, how are you guys thinking about funding Hudson?
Speaker 5:Our thoughts are. So we had a talk, I think, when he first got into the high performance team and we're like, okay, this is serious now. So how are we going to do this? And our thoughts are if he's putting in the work in, we will work out a way, the best we can to always ensure he doesn't miss out. But we weren't. You know that was all before. We knew the cost of things. Like every time he goes to Europe, that's $10,000. And you know most families would spend that on one holiday for four people, not one of you going over. So I think the shock came when we first got the the cost of his uniform. Like they're like you do all this work and you finally get given that green and gold, but you have to pay for it.
Speaker 3:It's about dollars, we're like oh, you're like, that was not in the dreams. Yeah, the money part like what? Yeah?
Speaker 5:so that was. That was a bit like oh, okay, cool, and then they change it every other year so they have to buy it again. Um, and also, he grows like a weed. But in saying that, so we do, you know, we, we.
Speaker 5:I started researching everything, looking for grants, looking for help and thinking there's got to be something for junior athletes, and I think that's when the reality hit me. There isn't. So sports teams get a lot of community support and all the rest of it, but when you're an individual and a junior is the biggest thing, so juniors don't get funding, but to become a senior, you have to go. You have to be a junior, so you really don't have a choice. And yeah, so I remember that day I'd been Googling and searching and talking and asking questions all day and then I saw Nat on TV talking about green and gold and I'm like, oh, my gosh, what? So? Yeah, I remember sending her an Instagram message that night and going is this? Like? Because Huddy was I think he was 14 at the time I'm like is this for little athletes as well, who are dreaming? And she's like, yes, apply. So we did.
Speaker 5:And that was just like it was a deep breath and going, okay, we can do it this year, that's fine, um, but I think, yeah, every time he gets selected, there's all this elation and we are so excited and so proud and then immediately we're like, okay, how, how do we get them there? And yeah, it's, it's difficult and you can only shake that tin so much around a family and friends who are obviously very supportive. But yeah, it has to, has to go wider. And I think a lot of people like even I didn't know that they don't have support and everyone wants to be part of that journey when they're at the Olympics and screaming your name, but they forget the 20 years it took to get there. Like these kids, the 20 to 2 kids they're in our community now. They need your help now, like be part of the story from the beginning, kind of thing.
Speaker 3:But yeah, and I love what you just said about that gap, the the junior gap thing, because you're exactly right, in order to be a senior, you need to be a junior, so something has to happen first and the kids are so busy training, like you know. As Hudson said, he's managing his school, he's doing that really well, he's training his energy, getting those eight hours of sleep. I mean then you get to be, you know, a fundraising expert. So thank you for highlighting that gap and I know, hudson, that you're really proud of the game set match scholarship you received recently and you know good on mom, for you know tracking that that was available to you tracking that that was available to you, I'd love to know what that did like.
Speaker 4:Where did that impact your journey? Well, I mean, it was great timing. Yes, we, yeah, we got it um right before worlds. Okay, so that covered half of worlds, which was very helpful. But, um, the money, it's not just the money part. Having that there as like a mentor, being able to like teach us about like the networking with everyone, every athlete and like businesses, and learn how to fundraise and stuff, is really cool. Be able to raise that money, yeah, it's cool's cool.
Speaker 3:I like that. You said that because and mom, you alluded to it as well about not being alone, cause sometimes, like you said, you can only shake the can so much with your friends and understanding that somebody has your back like knows the struggle, been there and from a fundraising perspective, hudson, I love that you brought that up, that you've got sort of got this pro who's been out in the trenches figuring out how to get people to support her for all her career and now going. I don't want everyone to have to go through this um the same way, without like blind the way she did. So I love that you're learning and the skills are transferable. Like it's amazing how later it's sort of a premise that you can live your whole life by meaning, like, how do I tell my story? How do I let people know what I'm up to? Because what we've noticed is that when people hear who you are and what you do, they want to get behind you. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so it's just about how do I, how do I tell more people, how do I widen it beyond my family, you know. So really cool to hear from you. I really want to thank you both. I think people would be shocked to know that this was your very first podcast, because I think you really shone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's how you tell the story and, of course, there's like way more. So people. There's ways that you know will connect people so they can connect into your journey even further, and we do that through the show notes. But we also know that many people listening to this, they become inspired and in the lead up, like Paris Olympics are coming up, people want to be a part of it and they want to be part of the journey. So I want to really encourage, like all the people that are listening, to head to the show notes for how you can make a positive contribution to these athletes. And what most people say is financial is what is meaningful, hudson and mom in the journey, but just being a part of it is what people love. So the passion is contagious. So I really encourage anyone who's listening to get involved and I just want to thank you for doing such a great job telling your story. Thank you for having us.
Speaker 4:Thank you for having us yeah you're welcome.
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