Welcome to a new episode of the Legal Authority podcast! In this installment, we're thrilled to have a special guest, Rick Davis, joining us from the Davis Law Firm in Greenville, South Carolina. Get ready to gain valuable insights into the world of legal entrepreneurship, firm management, and achieving success.
Rick brings a unique perspective to the table, sharing his experiences on what it's like to initiate and steer a law firm toward success. Whether you're a seasoned legal professional or someone considering starting your own firm, this episode is packed with practical advice and real-world wisdom.
Join us as we delve into Rick's journey, exploring the challenges and triumphs of firm management. This is a must-watch for anyone looking to navigate the legal landscape and build a thriving practice.
👉Hit play now to uncover the insights Rick Davis has to offer! Don't forget to subscribe for more exclusive interviews and SEO tips tailored for law firms.
Visit Their Website: https://davis.law/
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Welcome to a new episode of the Legal Authority podcast! In this installment, we're thrilled to have a special guest, Rick Davis, joining us from the Davis Law Firm in Greenville, South Carolina. Get ready to gain valuable insights into the world of legal entrepreneurship, firm management, and achieving success.
Rick brings a unique perspective to the table, sharing his experiences on what it's like to initiate and steer a law firm toward success. Whether you're a seasoned legal professional or someone considering starting your own firm, this episode is packed with practical advice and real-world wisdom.
Join us as we delve into Rick's journey, exploring the challenges and triumphs of firm management. This is a must-watch for anyone looking to navigate the legal landscape and build a thriving practice.
👉Hit play now to uncover the insights Rick Davis has to offer! Don't forget to subscribe for more exclusive interviews and SEO tips tailored for law firms.
Visit Their Website: https://davis.law/
#LegalAuthorityPodcast #DavisLawFirm #GreenvilleSC #LawFirmManagement #LegalEntrepreneurship #SuccessStories #SEOforLawFirms #YouTubeEpisode #LegalExpertInterview
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Unknown
So on this episode of the Legal Authority podcast, we're going to talk to a special guest. Rick Davis will be joining us from the Davis law firm in Greenville, South Carolina. He's got a great perspective on, you know, what it's like to start a firm and manage a firm and have some success. So that so excited about that.
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Unknown
And you two will have a great conversation, I'm sure. So let's go ahead and get it started. Oh, looking forward to it. Yes. All right. Let's go. Okay.
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Unknown
Hey, Judy. How are you? I'm doing fantastic. Thank you. Welcome to another edition of the Legal Authority podcast. I am Jay Rossman, along with my esteemed co-host, Judy Goldberg. How are you today, Judy? I'm doing great. What did you do this weekend? Anything fun? Oh, well, you know, I'm in Florida, so it's a it's a it's a resort.
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Unknown
It's always constant. It's always fun. It's always fun. Dancing is my game. So, you know, I can't dance. I have two left feet so it doesn't work. But anyway, I'm really excited about today's show because we have a special guest that I'm really excited about, and I'm really glad that he had the time and was willing to come on the podcast.
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Unknown
His name is Rick Davis. He is the founder of the Davis Law Group there in Greenville, South Carolina. And, you know, I got to point something out. I always thought Greenville was a small market, you know, because technically in the city of Greenville, there's just not a lot of people. But it's a huge metropolitan market. I think there's like a million people because there's like they call it a tri state or something.
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Unknown
And I spent a little bit of time there. It's pretty cool. But this gentleman, Rick Davis, built a really successful law firm and they're doing great. You know, we happened to work with them at Digital Horsepower. So we we know them well. And anyway, let's let's go ahead and bring him in. Rick, how are you this morning? Good.
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Unknown
I'm doing well, Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show. Oh, thank you for coming. I appreciate it so, again, you know, as we've talked about, the whole point of the Legal Authority podcast is to really, you know, give a perspective to the the attorneys that are listening, whether they are young attorneys working for someone that they're just thinking about going to hang out their shingle soon, or if it's a sole proprietor or solitary.
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Unknown
This solo practitioner, I think, is the term you use, Judy, or just they own a small law firm and they want to build and be successful. And we just thought that the best way to do that would be to have Judy on, because she's gone through it and she's got that perspective and she's super successful and ended up retiring early because of it.
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Unknown
And having you on, you have your perspective as well. I think it could be really amazing content for the attorneys that are listening. So without any further ado, let me shut up. Go ahead, Judy, Tell it tell us a little bit about your background. Sure. Sure. Again, you know, I've been working with Jay a couple of years with digital NHP.
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Unknown
That's how we got to know each other. And Judy, I do remember him telling me your story back when we first began and that you had had a successful practice. And so it's always fun to be able to talk to somebody and who really enjoys practicing law and have done a good job of it. And that's what's been my goal throughout my career.
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Unknown
I've been practicing law for 40 years in Greenville, South Carolina. And Jay, I know you put a pitch in for for our upstate South Carolina area where people know where we are. We're on the I-85 corridor between Charlotte and Atlanta. So we're about halfway in between those two towns. So we can have pretty easy access to an airport.
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Unknown
We're, you know, 40 miles from, you know, from the mountains and pretty close to Asheville and 200 miles from the beach. So it's a great area in Greenville. So booming town. BMW is located here. We get a lot of industry, which is which is kind of dovetailed into my practice area where I make a living doing personal injury and mostly worker's compensation.
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Unknown
Right. I know you do some family law, too. If I if I'm not mistaken. Right. I do. My son does the family law practice, which is, you know, the you know, that's kind of my I'm really excited about I mean, I'm 64 years old. I'm really excited about continue to do it in my practice for several reasons, but one of which is as I'm getting to practice with my family, with my son, you know, I don't know much about family law.
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Unknown
He does, but he's gotten very good at it. And it's and it's a lot of fun to be able to work with somebody that you from, you know, raised and worked with your whole life. And plus, I get to hand my practice to him, assuming he wants to continue doing this, which I think he will. That's awesome. And for people that are listening, that are geographically challenged like I am, you're literally like a stone's throw from Clemson University.
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Unknown
It's like Clemson Tigers land. Go Tigers. Yeah, it's like it's all orange. And and I spent a little bit of time there and I remember that it's it's pretty cool. I went to one Clemson Tigers game and I was hooked. I mean there's nothing like 100,000 drunk screaming people that are more passionate about their college football team than they are about anything else.
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Unknown
No, you're right about that. And we're very passionate about it. I mean, we don't have an NFL team in our state. And, you know, this has always been a college sports state. You know, again, we've got pretty successful universities, university of Georgia, 70 miles down the road. And, you know, Clemson, you know, here in the University of South Carolina, Columbia, they're doing pretty well.
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Unknown
So we've got, you know, a lot of things going on in this area. I finished clumps of the 1981, which was the year of our first national championship, and we were going to in the last ten years. So, you know, we're doing okay. That's awesome. That's awesome. So what was it that made you wanted to practice law? What what kind of got you interested in the practice of law then is a great question.
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Unknown
Do you that that let me give you a little bit of my background. I grew up in a blue collar family. My dad and grandfather had a gas station and they were mechanics and I was the first person in my family to go to college and they just knew that I needed to do something, but I needed to have the tools to do something better than what they had done.
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Unknown
You know, I always thought growing up pretty cool to work on cars all the time. And, you know, my dad finally said, look, it's tough to make a living doing that. And this you're really going to grow into it as from a business perspective and you won't be the guy with the ranch in your hand if you're the one that's running the business.
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Unknown
But he said, want to explore some other options. And so he encouraged me to, when he would see a professional come in to the gas station and he knew he would say, Why don't you go meet them and talk to them about what they did? And it was a couple of lawyers kind of took me under their wing, you know, when I was put in their gas and had become to their office and let me in turn for them.
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Unknown
And I got to really watch it from the air, you know, boots on the ground and perspective. And you know what? Wasn't doing anything legal. I was just running a lot of errands, but I got to hang out and watch a lot. And then I went all the way through my undergraduate career at Clemson. And then I decided while I was at Clemson that I wanted to go ahead and go to law school.
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Unknown
That's very good. I ended up going to the University of South Carolina, but I came back home to Greenville all because, one, I wanted to practice in my hometown where I've been born and raised. This is probably one of the luckier things that I did along the way because I just I didn't really understand this at the time.
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Unknown
But by coming back to Greenville and with my dad and grandfather having had a business, even though they were mechanics, they were relationships all over town, that kind of gave me an opportunity to get started. And it's that relationship, everything from being introduced to a lawyer to being able to come back and work with people that I knew then that I had business relationships with through my dad's business and enabled me to be able to see, okay, you know, this is a good opportunity for a career.
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Unknown
And as I look back, those relationships were one of the most valuable things that I ever did. That's awesome. We have a similar story. My parents had an auto repair shop, too, and I remember when I was in middle school, I was like, I think 11 or 12 years old. I would get out of school at 230 and I would walk down to my dad's shop or he'd pick me up in his jeep and I would pump gas for the last two or 3 hours of the day.
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Unknown
And here I was, this ten year old kid you pull up to get gas. It was full service at that point. And I'm asking you to pop your hood. I'm checking your oil and I'm I'm, you know, checking your windshield washer fluid and all of that and putting oil in your car when it needed and pumping your gas.
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Unknown
And people just thought that was a real hoot. You know, I mean, nowadays, you know, you got people that that would they'd be crazy, You know, what's an 11 year old kid doing pumping gas that's dangerous, you know? But this was, you know, when I was six, when I was 11, that was almost one. There was black and white TV, Right.
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Unknown
This is going back like 40 years. But it was it was cool. My dad used to pay me $0.75 an hour. It was less than the actual minimum wage, but I didn't have any bills. I lived at home, but I would make literally probably $10 a day in tips because people thought it was so cool. And so it was funny.
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Unknown
It was really it was really neat. So we have a little similarity there, you know? I see. I see that what it was really beneficial for you to have that relationship, as you describe it, coming back to your hometown, your father's business, your friends, your schoolmates, everything about it just works. I had a very different experience. I lived in New York.
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Unknown
Law was a second or third profession for me, something I always wanted. And you owned a hotel before? You know, I did a dude ranch, a dude ranch hotel with my husband ten years, which was invaluable because knowing a business, how it operates, the ins and outs of a financial statement, building a business, marketing that business, selling that business as a kid really gave me a wonderful foundation.
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Unknown
But when I, I went to practice in Connecticut, a different state from where I socialized, lived, had contacts here. It was a very different experience. So fortunately I was with a marketer as a senior partner and he worked on the brand, went on TV, started to market, but that was before digital marketing. So everything was paper and I got out there.
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Unknown
Yellow Pages. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I formed some professional women's organization, so I get known. So it was hard, but, but it's doable. It's doable, especially if you're in a small town. And I was in Danbury, Connecticut, so it wasn't as if I was opening in Manhattan, New York City. So. So that was great. So did you go in with a firm initially or did you just open and yourself?
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Unknown
I did, with two two volunteers that were ten years my senior. They had taken over practice from an older fellow that had passed away and they just knew they had too much business and they came down and interviewed at the law school and our two of us at one time. So they doubled the size of the firm. And one day and I practiced with with those folks for 35 years until my son and I spun off and did our own deal with my practice.
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Unknown
Didn't have any family law practice at all. And my son really wanted to do family law work, and he's very good at it. And it was easy to let him go out on his own or he and I do it together. And as I said earlier, I couldn't think of a better way to go into my golden years to practice than being able to work with my son, who I love.
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Unknown
And I really respect, you know, what he does and how he does it. And I sit and listen to him, I don't think. And he didn't learn that for me. That's pretty good. Well, if he makes a mistake on a case, you don't ground him right? No, no, no. My grandchildren would come and torture me if I did.
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Unknown
Can you speak a little bit about that transition for you working in a firm? Did you have to do marketing or handle the business aspect or just be a lawyer? I know with myself, I really just wanted to practice law. I wanted to get out there, litigate my cases, loved trial work, and and it was emotionally painful for me to really address doing business.
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Unknown
But that was that was so important to keep your this is a business. I was. How was your experience? Well, that's a great question. And I'm not a great manager. I mean, you know, particularly when it comes to personnel issues. And that's the thing. I want people just to kind of manage themselves. And that's not always things are not always going to work out that way.
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Unknown
And you've got to recognize your limitations and find somebody that can help you do the things that you're not able to do. And other example that would be, you know, marketing, which is when I reached out to Jay and I said, you know, we're with a local marketing firm, and I didn't know what they were doing and how they were doing it, because I don't know anything about Internet marketing.
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Unknown
I just knew it wasn't working. You know, after we made our transition and which is when I had reached out to Jay and says, Look, can you guys help us take a look at what we're doing? Let me know if it's effective, if it's not. And he's being honest with me. And he said, look, I'll give you an assessment.
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Unknown
And if they're doing the good things that need to be done, then, you know, at least he'll know that. And if not, you'll know that too. And so, you know, a big part of our transition from my practice before was trying to surround ourselves with good people. You know, I had a we had a very good CPA that I've been working with for years to kind of make sure that we had our structure up and in place and that our LLC employees, my son, got all excited about shopping for a new building in in the western side of town, which is where all the textile industry was back in the heyday.
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Unknown
And then the third thing was to find people like marketing folks that could help us take care of the things we need to. Some of that was trial and error. I mean, you know, I'll be honest with you, the same experiences that I had on my own practice with marketing folks continue to own, you know, later on. And that's why ultimately you've got to trust the person that you're dealing with if you know.
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Unknown
But you also need to kind of pay attention to it to make sure that, you know, what needs to be happening is actually taking place. Rick, let me ask you a question. And I think this kind of fits with what you're talking about, agreeing with what you said. I remember our very first conversation and I just told you, you know, and this is how we do this with anybody, anybody listening, you know, reach out to us at the Legal Authority Dcoms last podcast, and we'll do an audit that will show you exactly where you stand, how Google sees your site, why it's working, why it's not working.
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Unknown
And we get pretty detailed. If you remember, there are people out there that still believe that this doesn't work, that that SEO doesn't work and whatnot. And I, I tell them I'm blue in the face. If you give Google what they ask for, they'll reward you. What is your opinion on that now that you've actually started to see it work?
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Unknown
No, I agree with you 100%. Again, that's where you you don't know what you don't know. And that's why we've got to have somebody that you trust and that you feel comfortable in, you know, by actually looking at the results and seeing where you are. And I know in our work with you folks is that, you know, when I request it periodically, you know, you Steven, I'll send me a a rank report and say, where am I ranking on these keywords?
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Unknown
You know, I mean, I can go look because that is, for example, in our family law practice, I can go look under custody in Greenville, South Carolina, and see where we all in it. You guys are doing fantastic in the family law keywords. You know, the funny thing is, is, you know, and I think this is true for I think it is a science, but there's a little bit of trial and error that goes on.
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Unknown
I mean, you know, with what you guys do, you know, for example, you picked out insurance dispute lawyer for us as a keyword. But you know, I was doing personal injury work. I would have thought about that, you know, And next thing I know, we're ranked first for insurance dispute lawyer and you know and we get a bunch of calls and you know and to me, those calls are the start of a relationship with people.
00;15;51;04 - 00;16;16;18
Unknown
And we talked about relationships earlier. But that's just another way that the marketing tool really evolves into something that you can, you know, sink your teeth into and build a practice out of. Because even in probably one of the most important things I want to relate to your listeners is that at the end of the day, you know, even if you can't quote, help somebody by winning their case, you know, sometimes what we do is we educate people.
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Unknown
And some of the most loyal people I've had along the way were the ones I sat down with. I listened to them. I said, let's think about it. Let me look at it. If it was something that required research, and when I would tell them, Look, you don't have a legal claim, okay? You don't have one, that's going to be a practical one time.
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Unknown
You figure all the expense and the time and. All right. But these are the things you do need to know and some things you can do otherwise, because we try to offer people alternate strategies, maybe not litigating the case is the way to go in maybe writing a letter or maybe hiring somebody else to help them with whatever their issue is.
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Unknown
But, you know, again, those people and once you've kind of educated them, they become loyal to and then you've got another relationship there that you can build on. Yeah, absolutely. And just touching on something that you had said earlier, you know, you don't know what you don't know. My favorite my favorite conversation with lawyer is my I guess my favorite line is, you know, let me give you a perspective.
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Unknown
You're an attorney. You know how to practice law. You're not a marketer, right? So you you you think you might know because, you know, everybody watches a couple of YouTube videos and thinks that they have a master's degree in online marketing. But the fact is, if I was to go get myself in trouble in Greenville, South Carolina, should I go represent myself or should I call you?
00;17;31;18 - 00;17;46;05
Unknown
You should definitely not represent yourself. Exactly. Because I don't know what I don't know. I mean, I can't even write a motion like I could write it and it probably wouldn't make any sense. I know if to put it in that little blue, that little blue folder thing or something, but I mean I don't know what I don't know.
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Unknown
Right. And I think if you just focus on what you're good at and surround yourself with people that are that are really good at the rest of it and you understand what they're doing, but you just let them do it. I think that's when you can really win. And whether that's marketing or anything else, you know, I mean, I, I think, you know, in a future episode, you know, I know Jodi is going to get pretty deep with her old paralegal.
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Unknown
We're going to actually bring her in or oral legal secretary. And it's so important to have a relationship with your right hand and your left hand person to where they're really an extension of you. You know, you can finish their sentences. They think how you think they know how you think, they they just it just very fluid. And I think that's really important, too, is the quality of those relationships.
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Unknown
And that's the support staff, whether it's the digital marketing, which is what was a charm, was a charm actually needing. JAY And we have a very interesting story about that. We do, but that's in the paralegal. And if you have other associates, you have your son, which is wonderful. I had my daughter in the practice. She wasn't an attorney, but she gave me wonderful support staff.
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Unknown
So and in private practice, what I enjoyed most was the freedom, freedom to decide how I was going to practice everything about my practice, how I was going to market myself. So what was your experience when you first went on your own? When? Well, and again, I went in with the firm, the small firm, you know, back in 1984, which is where I started.
00;19;25;24 - 00;19;43;05
Unknown
And, you know, and so they already had a kind of a book of business, if you will. There was a lot of individuals and I took that those individuals and I kind of stumbled into this over time because I came out of law school like a lot of folks do and think I knew it all. And then I was a lawyer now and it just the business was going to fall in my lap.
00;19;43;05 - 00;20;15;17
Unknown
But, you know, we're working in your practice and own your practice, you know, or in court of it. And, you know, even though we don't like or want to do the management part of it, you know, the relationships that you're going to develop. And, you know, again, over time, I mean, I've got people that are represented 35 years ago that are still calling me, asking me questions, referring me business, you know, So I look back, that was the most essential key to getting everything off the ground, both when we first started practicing as well as my restart, you know, four years ago.
00;20;15;19 - 00;20;39;18
Unknown
So let's switch gears just a little bit, if we may, because I know that you've got an appointment soon that you have to that you have to attend to. What have you done or put in play recently to help develop consistent case flow to your firm other than working with digital horsepower? I mean, obviously, you know, we're able to to help you flow some cases, but what else are you doing to generate new cases for your firm?
00;20;39;20 - 00;20;57;22
Unknown
Well, and again, you know, I try to you know, I don't do any of the duties over the Internet marketing stuff without you know, getting input from somebody like you folks to advise me on what we need to do. But the other things that I do that I think are more practical, that are on everybody, that practices law should be able to do.
00;20;57;22 - 00;21;14;28
Unknown
And this probably applies to any business, but it is, you know, understanding that every person you come in contact with as a potential client, you know, Jay and Gideon, if you all need somebody in Greenville, South Carolina, you know, we've got we've got a relationship. Now, you probably gonna pick up the phone and say, is this something you can help us with?
00;21;14;28 - 00;21;38;02
Unknown
If not, can you point us to somebody who can? Yeah. When you get that collect call from the Greenville Correctional Facility. No, I'm kidding. I really don't get in that much trouble. Yeah, but I would call. Not purposely. I appreciate that, you know, But, you know, on a more basic level, everything from, you know, where you attend church going, your Sunday school class, you know, you develop relationships, you talk to people.
00;21;38;02 - 00;22;01;04
Unknown
But then on a more close level to being a lawyer is getting involved in in the local bar association, volunteering to do things that don't take that much time, you know, and and you develop relationships with people that they might be a bankruptcy lawyer or a real estate lawyer, but they don't know everything about family law or, you know, they need and people are going to refer to somebody that they've got a relationship with.
00;22;01;04 - 00;22;17;06
Unknown
And well, you know, there are some things that can do better. But I mean, I've seen lawyers that are so dedicated over the years about sending birthday cards out to their clients. I wish I had done it, you know, over 40 years. I would've sent thousands out. But, you know, that's one of the things I hadn't gotten around to that I want to do but do a better job of.
00;22;17;07 - 00;22;41;11
Unknown
But, you know, the easy part for me is going out, being involved in boards and commissions and professional bar association groups. And and I found that to be just incredibly helpful. Oh, that's awesome. And I know obviously we've had a relationship for a couple of years. I know how successful your firm is. And, you know, you never know some of the attorneys that are listening, They may need some of counsel in South Carolina.
00;22;41;11 - 00;22;59;17
Unknown
So, you know, if anybody wants to reach out to Rick and get to know a little bit more about him, it's Davis Dot Law is your Web site. And I'm quite proud of it because we built that for you. And, you know, if you have direct questions, I mean, I'm sure that they can reach you right through your website on your Contact US page.
00;22;59;20 - 00;23;31;08
Unknown
Absolutely. Absolutely. And I enjoy know, talking with people on this. The thing that I want another skill I think that people need to remember is, you know, when these people come in to talk to you, they're looking for somebody to listen and, you know, learn to be a good listener. Witness, lawyers. We learned to be talkers. But the listening part is something that, you know, whether I'm listening to the client or if I'm listening to Jay or I'm listening to, you know, my CPA, you know, I've been a good listener, took me it took me many years to do, and I still have some work to do on it, according to my wife.
00;23;31;10 - 00;24;03;00
Unknown
But so in closing, Rick, and if you have anything else to add, certainly by all means, but what advice would you give to the attorneys that are listening that are either considering hanging out, they're single or, you know, they've recently gone on their own, or they just want to continue to to build and expand their practice? What advice would you give them that could help them propel their firms forward and and and help them, you know, be able to experience and taste some of the success that you've had?
00;24;03;02 - 00;24;19;16
Unknown
Sure. Sure. No, I'm the couple three things, you know, is, one, remember as a lawyer that you're a problem solver and people are looking for a strategy and a path forward. And if you can give them that, whether or not they thought they were coming in to meet you about meet with you about to begin with is important.
00;24;19;16 - 00;24;47;15
Unknown
Secondly, is make sure your your you've picked a practice area that you enjoyed doing, you know, because if you don't like it, you don't love it. You know, there's a pain go around for everybody without having to deal with something where you're not happy doing it. So make sure you pick a niche that you enjoy, you know? And then the third thing I would do is kind of right off the bat is get involved, get active, reach out in your circle of influence.
00;24;47;15 - 00;25;07;18
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As a lawyer, you have some influence, but you know, if you put it under a rock and nobody can see it, you know, you know, you're not benefiting yourself or anybody else. So get involved. You know, again, like I mentioned, get involved with the local bar association, state bar association, trade associations. You know, for example, I do a lot of worker's compensation work.
00;25;07;18 - 00;25;29;14
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And over the years I've come in contact with a group of professionals known as nurse case managers, which the insurance companies hire them. And a lot of the guys on my side of the fence, on the plaintiff's side, they don't like dealing with them because they see them as a spy for the worker's comp insurance company. But you know, what I tried to do is develop a relationship with them so that, one, I could try to trust them or at least figure out the ones I couldn't trust.
00;25;29;17 - 00;25;44;23
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And then secondly is I joined their professional association and I'll go to the nurses meeting. You know, I'm the only lawyer sitting in a room. I'm pretty proud of that. And and they have a lot of fun. They have a lot of fun at my expense, too. That's okay. Well, it's like a roast of Rick every time you go.
00;25;44;23 - 00;26;08;25
Unknown
Right. But yes, a little bit. That's awesome. Rick, do you have anything else that you'd like to add? You know, just, you know, don't procrastinate. You know, look around, find good resources, ask questions, be a good listener and get involved. And I think it'll really pay dividends for you down the road. All right. That's awesome. Rick Davis from the Davis Law Group in Greenville, South Carolina, thank you so much for joining us today.
00;26;08;25 - 00;26;42;28
Unknown
I really appreciate that. You know, for anybody that wants to reach out to Rick is his website is Davis dot law. Anybody that would like to contact Judy or myself, it's the legal authority I'm sorry the legal authority dot com slash podcast. If you have a question that you want us to cover on a future episode or you know anything that you'd like for us to take a look at, you know, see where your online marketing is today, whatever it's all right there the legal authority dot com slash podcast all of our socials are that legal show so you can find us on Facebook, Twitter and so forth.
00;26;43;00 - 00;27;01;24
Unknown
And again Rick thank you so much for joining us today. I know how busy you are and means a lot that you took the time out of the data to help us out today. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the opportunity. All right. Take care. Davis Law Group. Rick Davis, thank you so much. And well, that's a wrap.
00;27;01;26 - 00;27;19;10
Unknown
Wonderful. Thank you. Wonderful. Right. Thank you for you all made that easy. Awesome. Well, hey, it's easy when you when you have a great guest. So thanks so much, everybody, for listening. And, you know, make sure you like and subscribe so that you're notified for every new episode. You can also do that at the Legal Authority dot com slash podcast.
00;27;19;12 - 00;27;25;02
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I'm Jay Rassmann. Judy Goldberg, we'll talk to you soon. Thanks so much.