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Jenny & Raebecca are back together - for a sleepover and getting ready for their season finale. Over homemade chicken piccata, charcuterie and a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc - these two are back to their antics. Confidence, from the dating world to leading a webinar. Our very unedited views on cancel culture and vanity. The harm of filters - and showing up superficially - and raising young girls in a culture that values aesthetic over authenticity. From Raebecca’s obsession with mascara and lip gloss - to Jenny’s perspective on a clean face - we unpack why it’s necessary to show up on camera as a business owner, and have a clearly defined set of value and pillars. What do you think it would take to get Jenny to dance on social (she was a college cheerleader, after all …)?
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Jenny & Raebecca are back together - for a sleepover and getting ready for their season finale. Over homemade chicken piccata, charcuterie and a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc - these two are back to their antics. Confidence, from the dating world to leading a webinar. Our very unedited views on cancel culture and vanity. The harm of filters - and showing up superficially - and raising young girls in a culture that values aesthetic over authenticity. From Raebecca’s obsession with mascara and lip gloss - to Jenny’s perspective on a clean face - we unpack why it’s necessary to show up on camera as a business owner, and have a clearly defined set of value and pillars. What do you think it would take to get Jenny to dance on social (she was a college cheerleader, after all …)?
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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
Alright, episode 11. It's 11. That means there is this episode and one more before we finish our season.
Speaker 2:Season finale number 12. We have decided that number 12 is the season finale. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:It basically gives us a quarter. Every quarter of the year is a full season. I like it.
Speaker 2:I'm a math person, so I am not a math person. Oh, I'm an English person, spelling person, no Same, but like I also am like a. You're a numbers person. I think there's a difference.
Speaker 1:Okay, actually, I'm going to agree with that. I love numbers. 11 is a good number too. I didn't know that. Wait what? No, oh, it means like when you see 11, 11 and a clock in the sky oh, I knew that, 11, 11. I knew so, 11 is a great number.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's spiritual and we're back together in person versus recording remotely. We are. It's been a while.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's like number two, I know, and we just had dinner together.
Speaker 2:She made a delicious dinner. It was, it was, it was beautiful. Honestly, it was the best piccata I've ever eaten, and I'm not just saying that to make you feel good.
Speaker 1:I hope. Okay, you know I have a really hard time with compliments, so I'm just going to take it at face value and I'm not even going to say anything. But I will tell you this Jenny's pillow is on my bed and I've cooked for her, which is like two things that haven't happened since I moved to the apartment. So literally, jenny is the first person in my bed and also the first person that I've cooked for it. It feels Shit's getting weird.
Speaker 2:Here's the mayhem that you all signed up for.
Speaker 1:You guys missed it. I know you thought romance novels last. I mean that was like the end of it. But it's not. We're in a romance. Basically we're in a romance.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't even better because I didn't stop and get you flowers on the way.
Speaker 1:I got you like Cheetry and cheesecake yes, a New York cheesecake. And I'm not even on hinge, you could be, though I let you in mine. I tell them all the time, like just so you know, jenny's gonna see what you wrote.
Speaker 2:Yes, and you've got some good ones on the docket.
Speaker 1:I know I like it.
Speaker 2:But kind of follow up to our last episode talking about smut books. Not to be confused with romance novels, I'm gonna continue to call it romance. No, that's Nicholas Sparks.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, so anyway, can you just be a little bit smutty and call it love and romance. I don't understand why you can't just like.
Speaker 2:No, no. So I went back. You know there's a little bit of romance in no, okay, tell me. So you went back. So I went back to reading the idea of you because you, you read it.
Speaker 1:All.
Speaker 2:I'm rereading it now because the trailer for the movie came out.
Speaker 1:Which we said we were gonna watch tonight. You had to show it to me.
Speaker 2:I'll show you the trailer.
Speaker 1:It's amazing.
Speaker 2:It's got Anne Hathaway in it and some guy that I don't know. I really wish they would have cast Harry Styles, because that's who I envisioned, don't you think they probably tried? I don't know, I gotta imagine. But anyway, so I went. I am rereading the book currently.
Speaker 1:It's about a musician. That's why we're saying Harry Styles, the man has a very it's based on Harry Styles.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Yes, I was gonna say the man has a very Harry Styles like feel.
Speaker 2:No, basically, the premise of the book is like she was obsessed with him, the author, and her husband was like you should write a book about this, and so she wrote this book. Oh my God, I had no idea. Yes, so anyway. So I am rereading the idea of you.
Speaker 1:I'm in the middle of it.
Speaker 2:And I keep telling Rebecca like you need to go younger, because, like the character in the movie or in the book is 39 and he's 20.
Speaker 1:That's so young though.
Speaker 2:And I'm here for it. I am here for it as a 42 year old married woman of 10 years with a nine year old daughter. I'm here for it. You're saying go for it. I am, I'm living back here. Sleep through you. That's funny, but I love you, nate, and you are just as better than a 20 year old.
Speaker 1:And we always say such nice things about Nate. It's not like yeah we do he's.
Speaker 2:he's the best. Just go off with them Actually.
Speaker 1:I will say this like in the mix, you have a good mix of like people who have like a little bit of game, and then people have no game and then, fortunately, the younger ones are just it's a little bit more game.
Speaker 2:I know. Well, I like it because they have more like confidence, I think, which actually is another good segue into today. Ooh, this is true, yes. So look, I don't know if anybody has seen this this real has gone viral of this sweet girl doing a webinar for her job.
Speaker 1:She's probably like 25. She's leading the webinar, so that's like part of it. It's like an hour long webinar.
Speaker 2:She's the leader and within 15 seconds of the webinar, her chair breaks Literally, she falls on her butt and she's like well, that's awkward, my chair just broke and she still. She kept on going, she did. She didn't edit it, nope, just let it fly. And it's such. It brought up such a good point because that's who we are, we are not people who edit, which is kind of scary.
Speaker 1:No, so we actually do. So a couple of things we should rewind. We have gotten more than a few questions about, like how we edit. This is what we edit. Let me help you here. We have a person who puts music at the beginning and music at the end and then also goes in and takes out like the dryer and the dog story. No, he doesn't. He doesn't do any of that.
Speaker 2:No, okay, so we get music. No, it's real. It's the intro and the outro and that's it. That's it. So we don't like splice things.
Speaker 1:Nope, we don't play those games Like whatever is happening.
Speaker 2:You get all of the un-packs. Yeah, you get all of the likes from me. So like you get the us because we're not going to bother you. No, I'm just saying like, I think it's just real thing. Well, I do say it a lot. I didn't realize I did. We are setting, it's just real Okay.
Speaker 1:So really quick. Also, we are going to set season two resolutions. Jenny's picked her own, you guys kind of picked mine. But one thing I need to stop saying is that I'm going to unpack everything. We just didn't get another word. But I don't know. The point is that I just want to dig deeper. Yeah, I get it. And then do I just say all season two Like let's dig deeper, let's dig deeper.
Speaker 2:I know, but then I can't think of like a Michael Scott, Like that's what she said.
Speaker 1:No, 100% Right.
Speaker 2:So maybe we should just stick with unpack. So get over it, people. We say it a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are who we are. Yeah, I kind of like the idea of not changing for everyone else. Yeah, back to the course.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So the girl with the amazing webinar, who did not edit this out no, who kept on keeping on with her webinar 100%.
Speaker 1:Just ate it straight out of the chair. And then stood up and kept going.
Speaker 2:She's just like you know, this is human and this is who we are and who I am. And we told him that's the dog.
Speaker 1:That's the dog in the background. So side note that I'm smiling because I'm with Jenny, but, like so I, we had to say goodbye to our cat this morning, which sucks for boots RIP.
Speaker 2:I loved my cat's life Poor one after this.
Speaker 1:I had boots for almost 14 years and she was amazing. We rescued her for the other dog that we had. The dog, this dog, this bulldog, is doing poorly in boots as absent. She's got some major separation anxiety. We have given her like two hours to warm up to the day and she's still being a notch. She's had some crackers and some sedative.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's, she's she's, she's adjusting, so you'll hear in the background, but that's the beauty of being on this journey with us.
Speaker 1:It is what it is. It is what it is Cat companion.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so we got to thinking about our conversation last episode about vanity metrics, oh yes, and it kind of led us into this editing society that we live in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like Remember when people used to get really mad about cancel culture? Yeah, I'm more offended by editing.
Speaker 2:I feel like we still live there. No.
Speaker 1:I'm more offended by editing. Okay, I don't think there's anything worse than like. So in my nine to five we deal with like a bunch of different jobs and like even in our realm and that can be wrong. So nobody get offended if this is your career choice. But like for real, it is Like I have never seen so many business cards and so many photographs that look nothing like the person that shows up to the meeting. Am I wrong? Is that rude?
Speaker 2:No, because like nobody's skin is that flawless. But I almost feel like it's like that with like here again likes, but I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it. Let's unpack it. I'll be right there with you.
Speaker 2:Come on, but I feel like everybody looks the same and it's like this filtered dewy yeah, because everyone's choosing the.
Speaker 1:Paris filter.
Speaker 2:Or the what's the one that's like not makeup, but makeup, like barely there, or something. Oh, I don't know, yeah so.
Speaker 1:I have this thing. I've had this thing for a long time. Have you seen this on my Instagram? I do not filter a single picture ever.
Speaker 2:I know I love that about you, but I haven't ever.
Speaker 1:Oh, I definitely have. And so then there's, like two years ago, a couple of states actually like banned filtering in Instagram.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think it's great.
Speaker 1:No, I'm a 100% pro the filter ban.
Speaker 2:Well, specifically because we have daughters, and I just like it's like, sets this unrealistic expectation of this tan glowy no, wrinkled no bags no, zits Dewey no right-eyed, blue-eyed lashes. I am jealous of your lashes. I mean, I love my lashes.
Speaker 1:So one thing I would do it, but the whole filter society thing, it's unsettling.
Speaker 2:It's unsettling, and I feel like I just wish we could be just us.
Speaker 1:So high level. That's actually our own commitment to one another. Yeah 100% and both of our brands. We're only doing things that completely represent us, even if it means saying unpack, or too many times we don't edit our content. Jenny actually just rocked my world before we got on here because she said that eventually these videos are going to YouTube and I think you should know that sometimes we look so ratchet in all of the videos.
Speaker 2:We literally like I didn't know that we were going to commit to that I think we're just going to do it because it's just like, who cares my face right now, when you guys see it apparently. I am currently sitting here at her dining room table in a sports bra.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like a cami tap. It's the one that I posted a few weeks ago, and it's actually amazing to come to the YouTube app. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 2:It is the best Hands down. Hands down. I sleep in it, I wear it, I wore it running. I'm obsessed. When I was chasing the dog my boobs did not bounce too badly, but I highly recommend we're going to link it.
Speaker 1:I will tell you this. There are moments in my life where I look like I just sold the last ticket to the bridge I live under, and I think you should know that a few of them are apparently going to be on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we fuck like, but it's fine, but we fun, we are very funny Shit and I had a little listen.
Speaker 1:It's fine, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:It is what it is.
Speaker 1:It's a little wild. I don't know what my comfort levels are.
Speaker 2:Because I feel like I just don't like a full face. And so I was coming over to Rebecca's tonight and I was like, hey, looking forward to it, she's like, oh, I'm doing full face makeup and all the things. I'm like, well, shit, I was coming over there ugly.
Speaker 1:Well, you said this is what I mean. You said I'm going to come over ugly and I was like, well, it's too late, Because I had been sad about the cat and so I had like so sad constitutes ugly to me Right so at 3 o'clock I made the decision that if I was going to get anything done tonight, I was going to regroup, and if I put mascara on, I know I won't cry because I'm not going to ruin.
Speaker 2:What is this obsession with you and mascara?
Speaker 1:I have been like this my entire life. Then you need to try some lashes.
Speaker 2:I think you'd enjoy it, but you can't put it on the lashes right. You don't need to put it on the lashes.
Speaker 1:So it is actually, it's another tick.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a tick of yours, ok. Ok, it's like the lip gloss. Here it comes, guys Brace yourselves. She's like an onion, like a lasagna. The layers just keep on coming. So I don't know if I could give up. It's the process of this I despise. Putting on makeup. It is my least. But I've been like this since, like middle school, like in truly in high school, I didn't wear makeup. In college I didn't wear makeup. Then I moved in with some beauty queens. This is a true story, oh my god.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true story. So I lived with two girls who did two or three, yeah, like serious pageant circuit, oh my god. And they were like you have got to start teasing that hair and put some mascara on, because I just don't do that. I've never been like this, I just don't. I hate makeup. I love a clean face and I don't like that feeling of things clogging my pores.
Speaker 1:My real face is not pretty when it's going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, mine's not great. I got rosacea, but you know what I'm just like. I don't like that feeling and truly I do think I'm somebody who looks better without makeup or maybe that's just my delusional self that tells myself that so I can leave the house. I think you look great without it.
Speaker 1:I just think I don't have like I don't know. I'll work through it. Maybe I need to unpack it with Christina, I think. So we are going together for Easter, we're getting the kids together.
Speaker 2:That's exciting.
Speaker 1:Just the moms and the kids are getting together for Easter, so that should be fun.
Speaker 2:I would love to have a therapist in the family.
Speaker 1:So I am so weird about that and so she's very careful because it's obviously like a conflict of interest.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a little bit, 100%. So sometimes I like ask my brother or her husband about, like the other day I asked him about how my mom was doing with my divorce and he was like Christina's helping, like I need to buy her like a piece of jewelry because she already helped me and now she has to help every family member.
Speaker 2:I kind of love it that I can't wait to have her back on here. Oh, so quite a few of you have actually asked and I think she should. She does, she wants to come back and make a scrawl.
Speaker 1:She's like I wonder if I could come back and make you guys cry.
Speaker 2:I think it would not take much for me.
Speaker 1:I would, that's what.
Speaker 1:I said I'm everything, you have a better chance of making us like. It would be a better goal If you were a goal setter, to try to make us not cry. Because do you cry? Are you a cryer? Well, in my in this life, yes, I'm actually a hugger and a crier. So this has come up a lot. I thought you're about a crowd just now and you did that. No, so lately a big topic of conversation People have been like hey, can I hug you? And I'm like do you? Do I look traumatized?
Speaker 2:No, you don't, you just you don't. Look like a hugger to me, no right.
Speaker 1:So I don't know if they're asking because they, like I Look not like a hugger and they want to give me one anyways, or if they're like trying to figure out because they can't read the line. I think most people understand I'm not a hugger but like lately I actually have been kind of into it.
Speaker 2:Oh am I rubbing off on you? Because I don't know, maybe I'm a big hugger. I've been like letting people hug me, so that's actually one of my claims to fame. Is that people say I'm the best. No, I'm dead serious. People say I'm the best hugger. I wonder if that's why I'm like a hugger.
Speaker 1:I am like, I'm a, I'm a big, so six months in Jenny camp and I like people are like I do.
Speaker 2:I give really good like squeezy hugs, but people ask me like that, like I allowed to touch you like.
Speaker 1:Oh, what about?
Speaker 2:me feels like you foundries, you have like these, like boundaries up. Yeah, I feel that I could feel that. Yeah, you're just, you're very guarded. Okay, you feel very guarded. Do you your energy, like your physical energy, so you don't have to work, work that out before Hinge baby for that 20 year old?
Speaker 1:So that what's happening everyone's like. You feel like there's a wall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's just more of like a physical, like you're just, it's just a guarded thing. I don't know how to explain. That was not a presence. No, it's an energy like. Don't touch me, you just feel delicate. No, it's not like it. I'm sorry, it's just like a delicate, yeah, a little delicate, little fragile, yeah, shit, yeah. So you need to work that out before the 20 year old, because he is not gonna give a shit if you're delicate or not.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised that we hope he doesn't. I'm surprised. The delicate is the word that comes to mind. Yeah, it's delicate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're unpacking it right now, right now like, but I will say this when we say that that is actually a testament to our commitment to being authentic, like we really don't. In the episode with Christina, when I was like wow, I feel like a baby just slipped down and I like literally said the thing that I said about anger, I had to decide right then, in that exact moment, if I was actually gonna share that part or if I wasn't going to at all. Yeah, that, yeah. So when we're unpacking stuff, we actually really are doing it right then and I think that is what maybe separates us I'm not gonna say from the competition, because I actually don't feel competitive at all in this, but I do think it separates us, and it separates us in the podcast, but also in work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so too. I definitely think so. I think we're just I Mean, I don't really care about how we look, which is very challenging because we're building our website right now. Yeah and to build out an entire website. It basically says like listen, we're here to help you, we know our stuff, whether you like it or not. Like it's very challenging to make it sound fluffier than it is. I.
Speaker 1:Think at the end of the day, though, too, is who was that?
Speaker 2:hang on, we have a knock at the door, is that?
Speaker 1:to hear it.
Speaker 2:We're not. You're good Editing. We're not editing.
Speaker 1:No, it's not the trash person, but I did get like a note about how I didn't do the trash properly.
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Speaker 1:It's challenging Literally only three people that have my address, so that that's like I can blink at that really quickly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had your address and I seriously tried to go the wrong. You would have gone to Holly's house, though Her door was open and it smelled like food. I thought it was your, her, okay yeah. And then she coughed and I was like, oh, that's totally, becca, almost full in, walked in the door with two bottles of wine and a bunch of cheese. She probably would have welcomed me with open arms.
Speaker 1:No, she would have been. She would have been like also, were you looking for Rebecca? So that's the other thing. Like I can't tell if people here think that so 60% of the time I do look like the bridge troll and I like 30% of the time I look like I am going to leave. And then there's the other percentage where you and I have actually been to like events and other things. Yeah, like I got wine with a friend or I went out for margaritas and then I take it like up a notch and they're like Wait, this is not the same lady that drags her bulldog across the courtyard in like size, large stuff.
Speaker 2:But you know that's funny that you say that because, like I feel, like I said, the bar so low because I look like a sweaty post gym disgusting red face.
Speaker 1:So pretty. I don't know if it's like the lashes or the blonde lashes man, you don't look like you're homeless.
Speaker 2:It's the lashes, but I feel like I said the bar so low with how I look that I can do the most minute thing like put on a pair of jeans. Boss, hit the vape. Hit the vape lip gloss, put this hair down.
Speaker 1:We don't like. You're new here. We don't vape I it's a joke, because I've a little bit of a lip.
Speaker 2:It's like a. It's a nervous take that she does. She puts lip gloss on like really aggressively when she gets anxious.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, when my friend Greer hears that you said it was aggressive, it's going to.
Speaker 2:It's aggressive. It's aggressive. You don't think it's aggressive?
Speaker 1:No, she's been telling me for like forever, like at least a decade. She was like oh no, the lip gloss is that it's aggressive.
Speaker 2:It's aggressive, but anyway, I said the bar so low that people are like, oh, my god, you look so pretty, it's like I tried my hair. Thank you, I appreciate that. So, yeah, I like to set low expectations so I can deliver. So I have this thing where, like vanity, it's all.
Speaker 1:It is Also like tonight and I used to do this when I was like home with my kids or when my kids were babies where, if I like feel down in the dumps, I also have to get fully ready, because I'm like, if I'm going to focus and not like spend time picking myself apart, then I've got to pull everything together Again. I definitely don't feel like that. Oh, all right, so it's just me.
Speaker 2:No, okay, there's probably something there we need to talk about. Christina, christina, yeah, all right, because like I could like, I could care like. If I feel crappy, I want to look crappy, I want to eat crappy, I want to feel crappy in my crappiness.
Speaker 1:I don't want to sit there.
Speaker 2:Just for a minute, like I don't want to live there, but like I don't want to brief visit.
Speaker 1:Would you say, a brief visit is a full day or a half day?
Speaker 2:What happened Like? What is the? What is the reason?
Speaker 1:Oh context.
Speaker 2:Yeah, period, oh, half day.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Dead dog full day.
Speaker 1:Okay, what? No postpartum.
Speaker 2:Oh God, A full year. Let's see I just had a bad day.
Speaker 1:Like like somebody was mean to you, or like you got bad feedback or you didn't get a bit just a feel of the ics. Just you know those icky days like what if you just showered it off and razor it? Give it a little dry brush upwards, towards the heart. I do love a dry brush. I do love a dry brush. Um, it's a lymphatic response.
Speaker 2:I love a lymphatic massage. We don't talk about lymphatic massages enough.
Speaker 1:So we go to the same place.
Speaker 2:Are they not the best? Shout out please to new body sculpting and spa and Mount Pleasant, and Lashay who runs the place is the best she's done numerous massages for me. They have red light therapy facials like hands down. The most welcoming non bougie salon, probably a mountain. Yeah, but it's like beautiful, it's not like beautiful but it's not like yes, I don't belong here because I go to carry here's lovely, I love her.
Speaker 1:I'm obsessed with her. We're now we're like BFF, so I've been telling people to that. It's also like a trauma release. There's something about your lymphatic response. So one of my things I'm really focused on is like adrenals and lymphatic response and like getting out of fight or flight, and so Carrie is yeah, big, she works the shiz out of B.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I love it, though, and I leave so exhausted and she's like well, you're going to be like we're letting all this out. There's a. There is really a big case, and we won't get into the weeds about this because we're going to talk about vanity, but there is a huge case for how your body stores and processes trauma, and so I'm Carrie, you're my girl.
Speaker 2:We should get Lashay on the podcast. She would be so good. We should. I love her, she knows your stuff and like, just it's so good, so good for your body and it feels so good. You have fluid and all these places that sell you light and helps get rid of that.
Speaker 1:There is some sculpting to it.
Speaker 2:Yep, how do we get on the subject?
Speaker 1:again, yeah, so back to vanity.
Speaker 2:I know, but how?
Speaker 1:do we get on? Next? We went to X and then I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know how we got here either, but anyway, we'll go back to Vanity. Yeah, vanity is a thing and we don't love it, but I know I have. I do fall victim to it, Like we were talking about showing up on camera, which, yes, not for me.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that we get a lot from business owners is this fear of being filmed.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'd rather eat a she. I seriously like a high heel stiletto. It is not my bag down the throat, yeah.
Speaker 1:I love that for you. So. So, of course, my position is obviously you need to show your face. Yes, there are entire faceless accounts. I just don't necessarily recommend that.
Speaker 1:I do think that there is a very good case for your face is not your brand, but that is separate from what I'm saying. Okay, so I think that, especially in the social media platforms because that's really where you're going to show your face You're not going to put your face on the billboard or traditional marketing outside of your business. I mean, I'm a, I want your face on my billboard, let's do this, um, but I so I'm not saying your face is your brand, right, but I think there's something about showing up authentically that naturally builds trust, and you know I'm a big believer that social media is a trust building platform. So, at the end of the day, how else are you going to do that If you don't? Whether it's like show your coffee, like I always talked to people about building these pillars out Right, really like five to eight pillars whether it's like religion or beliefs or family, like okay, so maybe your job is real estate?
Speaker 1:but, you're going to build pillars about who you really are, so people get to like, feel it's connectivity.
Speaker 2:It's a no like interesting.
Speaker 1:Yes, so you are going to at some point, like I know realtors who are really big into their belief system. I know realtors who are really big into body image and like health and wellness, right, uh, ones who are really big into, like beach life and coastal living. Like you can pick your pillars, but you're going to have to show how you live them in order for it to be believable.
Speaker 2:So what if there's somebody like me who would rather?
Speaker 1:That sucks for you Die than do that because, everybody says that. Oh.
Speaker 2:God like I it makes my armpits sweat. I know I don't want to do it Like I don't want to dance. I don't want to do dance. I don't want to do a effin tick tock. I'm 42 years old.
Speaker 1:The first one's the hardest one.
Speaker 2:Becca, I'm. It's never happening If y'all see me dancing. No, no, no, nothing. Behind the scene she has a gun to my head. It's threatening my life. I'm not saying dance.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying like, the first time you show your face, it's going to be the hardest thing we show your face. The second time is going to be a little bit easier. And then the 200 time is just like. Like when I show up on my personal social yeah, you're so good at it that's like forever long. I've like talking about it. And then I go back sometimes and I look at some of them and I'm like, wow, dude, I can tell that you definitely didn't sleep or you had a hard night, or like you were up doing diapers or whatever. But like you get used to it, it becomes so much easier to even meet with clients.
Speaker 2:But for me it's not even like really what I look like. I'm just like who cares, Like in this world of all of these things. Oh God, don't touch anything. Don't touch anything, oh shit.
Speaker 1:We're still working. We're still working. I was just going to touch it all up. It's fair. It's fair, do you?
Speaker 2:want me to touch your mute Very gently, guys.
Speaker 1:Test Test.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're back. How long have that been going on? Oh, this is real. This is real. For me, it's more like I am like what do I have to say that people care about? Because I'm so funny, like riding and taking pictures and responding Like that's my wit, like that's my superpower.
Speaker 1:Every single one of the things that you just said has to do with a client that's already engaged to you. No, just okay, right, because you're responding to something they already said. Yeah, writing to something they already need, so maybe I'm a better responder. You're our first responder. That's funny, because it's true like sometimes people just write back to me and email like oh god, wait a minute, hold on. I don't know how I gave you the impression that I was like one Cuz Jenny's always like did you see that? Did you see that? Did you see that? Did you see that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I am a first responder, you are our first. Yeah, I'm gonna give you like a little cute little badge.
Speaker 1:I need like a little hat. Yes, what kind of are you? A fireman, or I look at your.
Speaker 2:EMT. They're like a naughty nurse. Back to this month. Back to this month a paramedic. No, why? Because our outfits are bad. There's nothing sexy about those outfits. They're like collared shirts tucked into like navy blue pants. I'm gonna hear for the best pleats, thanks, but no thanks.
Speaker 1:Jenny's our first responder.
Speaker 2:Well, you have to remember where the industry that I was in for so long was responsive Like stuffs on fire. Respond like you don't have a choice. This is true.
Speaker 1:She's always like do you have your alerts on your?
Speaker 2:notice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I do, for our stuff I do.
Speaker 2:But it gets like it's because you have things color-coded and not by importance.
Speaker 1:I at some point, I just like.
Speaker 2:We've digressed a little bit on this podcast, but you know, that's why you're here, because that's what we do. But in essence, the Subject of this podcast was vanity.
Speaker 1:Showing your face and social media.
Speaker 2:That getting comfortable with that Getting comfortable, no matter how you look, and no filters. Just be yourself, please.
Speaker 1:I will tell you this if you are filtering yourself whether it's for a business card or for social media You're actually making it a lot harder to be comfortable when you have to show up in person. I just think that the reason that it becomes so overwhelming or it feels so bad Is because you've created this image of yourself. It's actually not authentic and now you feel pressure to live up to it, and that's something that really affects a lot of people.
Speaker 2:There's a real going around right now. He's like 20 year old influencers and it's like got a shot of them as on their content and then them in real life and it is night in day. We'll have to post it in the kitchen. No, it's like a shot like. It's like four separate shots of like girls like doing different things, but they're like Completely.
Speaker 1:I saw one where the three girls were like cooking breakfast in the kitchen.
Speaker 2:No, it's not the kitchen one.
Speaker 1:We look like if I look homeless on YouTube. Let me just tell you right now, I've never in my life seen a transformation like this.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just saying like I think to me where I get kind of Fussy about it is like it just sets such a high expectation for people like my daughter.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 2:Don't ever want to have social media, but I know that's not realistic. But like People don't look like that. You don't look like that.
Speaker 1:I was in ARI the other day. And For what Is this? A 1999 or?
Speaker 2:They do have good. They do have good underwear.
Speaker 1:Anyways, guys got some new panties 20 year old. So here's my point. I was distracting. I. Here's the deal. Their marketing is actually real women, so they also have like paraplegics and like other. So there's like all kind like the marketing shows, like actual Stomachs, like actual, like they get like a little bit of side boob and like a broad love a side babe, do you I?
Speaker 2:mean I. Live, for I've got a real, real I mean great as mine flap out from this camey on the.
Speaker 1:Video but like all of their marketing was super real but I feel like targets getting like that, I feel like most of them are, I would actually love it if we took like we are in control, mm-hmm, so like the word where you spend your money counts how you use your opinion like, but at the end of the day, like if we could get that to swing outside of this AI yeah influencer situation and then this filtered Yep influencer. If we could actually get to like Paraplegics and cellulite and different skin tones, I would are like a zit and nobody, do we?
Speaker 2:we ain't all walking around, do we?
Speaker 1:Back in my day. If I look, do we? It's because it's freaking 110 degrees.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say back in my day you know we called that shiny and oily. Yeah, we had to. But now we've repackaged it and now it's Dewey. Back in the day we had this little. You know the papers that you would put on your face, especially in Charleston. You would be, quote unquote, dewey. No man, that's sweat it is sweat here.
Speaker 1:Yeah so the other day I had, is it? Anyways, we're getting ready for one of the palettes gymnastics competition. You and yours it, we're getting ready. We were all three of us were in the bathroom me, my zit and pilot. I was putting on makeup. She was in her competition. Leo, it's six in the morning, maybe like five, 40. And I was like hey, this is how I mentioned like, do you, did I do a good job covering it up? And she was like literally dead pan. Me, she goes. I've only been staring at it all morning. I was like Are you for real right now? And she goes it's not even fun because you make it so easy. And I was like wait, I actually don't know now if you're serious. Are you being funny? Am I being funny? Am I being roasted right now?
Speaker 2:That we look to our like nine year old daughter's for validation, because I do the same thing to Clark and like how's this out? But she's like I like the other shirt better summit my six year old be like. Well, if that's how you want your hair.
Speaker 1:Like come out of the bathroom. I haven't even asked, she was well, that's how you want your hair.
Speaker 2:She's rushing.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, she's the worst. She's so funny. So I have been doing the summit voice forever and this year, this fall, during parent teacher conferences, her new teacher I think we might need to test them it for a speech impediment speech therapist and I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 2:I think it's precious.
Speaker 1:She will grow it's well so that person came in and they were like it's completely developmental, yes, like I would not overthink it. But for a second there I was like if I have been doing the summit voice.
Speaker 2:it's precious. She just has a little Russian.
Speaker 1:I love it Well and she we kind of joke because she's got like a little bit of like the Godfather in it. It's like her New York Godfather, like Southern. You know, she's like like I remember when she was really young and I said we're going to go do something. She goes, we not doing that, and walked away. And you know what we didn't do? We didn't do that because she's freaking terrifying, just like that. We not doing that, plans canceled, done, she's not coming, the mafia boss does not want to do it. She they actually. So when I sent the letter in after Christmas break about the stuff that was going on in our family and that we had split into force and whatever, how it started going to like this cute little like group thing and they would talk about stuff. But some it's person took her aside one time and I tell her anything like mafia boss.
Speaker 1:She's like nope, not an arc, both no both Matt and I were like no, but you can't just not telling her nothing.
Speaker 2:I was like where did you get this from? A gene runs deep, gene runs deep, hardcore Can you even get thank God it wasn't speech.
Speaker 1:I would have felt like such a jerk, like awful. Watch it be a speech thing next year.
Speaker 2:All right, guys. Thank you so much for tuning into episode 11. We are coming at you next week with our season finale of number one. It's going to be crazy. We are going to be drinking wine and asking really drinking boo, are we? Yeah, half a looten bitches we, yeah so drinking and asking really weird questions to get to know each other. And if you want to get to know us better, then tune in and we will see you next week.